Dairy Fat Lowers Heart Disease Risk Debunked
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- A recent Swedish study has led some media outlets to say that butter prevents heart attacks but there is a fatal flaw with the biomarkers the study used from dairy fat intake.
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Main Odd Chain Fatty Acid Study:
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Fiber vs Dairy and Odd Chain Fatty Acid Correlation:
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Randomized Trial - Inulin and Propionate Turn into 15:0 and 17:0:
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Propionate Study:
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Fiber Meta Analysis of 31 Meta Analyses:
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Meta-Analysis of Randomized Trials Lowering Sat Fat:
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It's not only about "good news about your bad habits", it's about selling/telling to people what they want to hear. There is a demand on that. It's easy money.
It hasn't even been 2 years, but already I look back in amazement at how strong my "dairy goggles" used to be. I still see it all around me. It's weird that I don't miss dairy at all anymore. The inconvenience of avoiding it at potlucks or restaurants is sometimes a pain, but I don't crave dairy at all. Yet I can remember when I bought so many dairy products and honestly believed I could never live without cheese.
check out Dr. Neal Barnard’s lecture on how dairy is addictive. it’s no wonder that people think they quite literally cannot survive without a cow’s coagulated breast milk.
That was me, too. I still want good Vegan forms to emerge that have protein and will melt and brown properly.
@@injunsun Yeah, plant-based shredded mozzarella doesn't melt like the dairy version. In a microwave the Follow Your Heart brand melts well, so I'm wondering if I could shred that and add it per slice and microwave it instead of cook it in the oven.
Congratulations on no longer being a dairy addict and I haven't had dairy for 5 years and don't crave it.
Dairy is indeed addictive. Thankfully I managed to get rid of it. Yeast extract played an important role since it resembles the taste of cheese so much. Once I learned how to make my own bread spread with it I never again craved for any dairy.
Even if it did I still wouldn’t eat it for ethical and environmental reasons. It’s gross how deceptive the animal agriculture industry is to the consumers. They try very hard to keep what they’re doing in those farms a secret, it’s vile.
YES
@@d.rabbitwhite NO
Yep
@@mycomage I find it fascinating that self professed 'carnivores' hang about these vegan channels writing stuff that isn't going to change the minds of vegans.
Seems like an odd way to spend time, that one will never get back.
PS Felines are true carnivores. Apes are not.
The fat in question is C15:0 and its actually discovered now to be an essential fatty acid that most people don’t get enough of, luckily you don’t have to consume it from animals though, there is a lab made form of the exact molecule made by a company called Fatty15
Mic you are worth your weight in gold to the animals. Vegans hear absurd headlines like this and laugh/shake our heads, and we take for granted that there are people out there who will actually believe it. Thank you for your evidence-based measured response!
It's just such a shame that people who this is targeted at can't / won't get to know the truth behind it. They just read some BS article and are convinced the good old 'natural' way is the right one for them. All good as they have known it all along.🤦
@@ivanak7149 The curse of the echo chambers!
@@VeganBrainFood , Cheese is 70% fat 😵🧀🍔, heart attack, and more Science !! ua-cam.com/video/fZc5Is98yDc/v-deo.html !!!!
One of my favorite vegan activists thanking one of my favorite vegan truth tellers for his work is the best way to start my weekend! 💚🔥🙌
@@PlantBasedPrimary Will do my best to live up to that Rachel! It's the weekend already? Ahh you must be in the UK :)
Everyone loves to hear that their bad habits are good.
Dairy fat isn't a bad habit. If you were shoveling loads of high glycemic carbs down your neck and consuming a ton of dairy fat, then it could be a problem, but otherwise, no
@@RobertWadlow292 ok Wadlow.
@@RobertWadlow292 Randle cycle.
@@gmnotyet Exactly
Bart Kay's review: ua-cam.com/video/mStvuBSvUEM/v-deo.html seems to agree. Almost like Mic is trying to prove to himself his bad habit of eating veggies will help his acne. Just eat beef. It will all go away and you will be healthy again.
A guy at my work showed me this study, thanks for making a video about this so i can debunk him.
If it was proven without any doubt that eating lots of high fat dairy, and even a very high saturated fat diet without dairy, could make me live for many centuries and keep me looking young, I still wouldn't eat that way. Raw dairy is even more repulsive. I've hated dairy my whole life.
Me too. My mom raised goats for dairy. Disgusting on every level.
@@d.rabbitwhite just goes to show: there's no accounting for taste
I love raw dairy I chug ridiculous amounts of it and have never gotten sick. In fact it feels good and I get a mood enhancing effect from so much epa. But to bad at school I can’t get any so l have cod liver oil to get that healthy health
@@rl9808 How do you conclude it's been great for her?
if it was actually proven then McDonald is gold because it's a 99% vegan diet 1900 cals of plants in a single big mac meal (when including 3 refill of nutritional corn juice)
i ate around 400 pounds of meat in the last 10 months and my arteries are 100% clear now
that is 10x the normal avg for a single adult in a year
as noted by having cured my long term erectile dysfunction... remember the vegan lie where they say it makes it more narrow? (the arteries)
I used to be a 'plant' 95% dieter & tried veganism (this only made my health way worse )
i also went from 230 to 185 in the first 6 months..
I like how Debunk Monk quickly bailed out on his zen mode and was like "Ah, F this...!"
lol, hysterical
It is hard to convince me butter is healthy when I'm 40 and everyone else I know but me has signs of chd
Same here. 43 and healthy vegan. In my family there is CVD, cancer, diabetes, high blood pressure, overweight,... but I get told that this vegan diet cant be very healthy lol
@@eni3995 ... Cheese is 70% fat 😵🧀🍔, heart attack, and more Science !! ua-cam.com/video/fZc5Is98yDc/v-deo.html .
How many of your friends eat animal fats exclusively?
I blame the seed oils.
My grandmother ate a ton of butter every day, never exercised, was obese and made it to 80. If she had not broken her hip, she would have made 100.
@@gmnotyet one of my uncles smoked two packs a day and became 85. By your butter-logic this means: Smoking makes you live longer lol.
(Forget the other 99% who die of lung cancer in their 50ies or 60ies)
Oh that news isn't true! What a surprise.
Yes what a surprise a bias vegan UA-camr would say it’s not true because it contradicts his personal beliefs
@@Bioferts the question you need to ask yourself is this: Does he believe it because he is vegan, or is he vegan because he believes it?
@@SMABEM he believes it because he is vegan. Why? Because for the past 5+ years he’s being doing exactly the same thing. It’s exactly the same with dogs and cats on vegan diets. We know cats and dogs need meat and prefer to eat meat, but vegans force them to eat vegetables against their will because of their confirmation bias.
Yall filter out the reality to appeal to your own vegan bias and this ultimately causes ignorance because yall cannot think outside of the realm of veganism
@@Bioferts I think humans shouldn't have pets. But if they do, cats are carnivores, dogs are omnivores...
@@Bioferts Mic became vegan because he believed a whole foods plant based diet is the healthiest. Which is true. Only after eating that way for a while he became vegan. The same thing is true for me. Funny how your outlook changes after you realise that meat consumption is not only unnecessary, but destructive.
Raw grass milk changed my life forever .
Well nobody wants to hear fiber will make them healthier, but tell them cheese is good for them and now you have an audience. I seriously don’t know how they got away with this.
Your leaves are off center again. Get it together, Mic!
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I will have a new studio soon anyway.
@@MictheVegan That's awesome 😎 Excited to see it
@@MictheVegan , .. Cheese is 70% fat 😵🧀🍔, heart attack, and more Science !! ua-cam.com/video/fZc5Is98yDc/v-deo.html ..
As a swede, on UA-cam I constantly get dairy adds like 30% of all adds. It so easy to just accepted what they feed with as true.
The medical establishment says while having high cholesterol is bad for you, DIETARY cholesterol has no effect on your cholesterol levels. A very smart person told me this so I checked several reputable websites, like the Cleveland Clinic, CDC, and Harvard and they do say that. A lot of websites also say that your body uses the cholesterol you eat to make hormones, which is good. Could you respond to these claims?
Honestly.. It's so annoying seeing these articles and how they twist and misinterpret things. The good old 'doubt creating' strategy as it was first introduced by the tobacco industry. I wish the meat and dairy industries would die already.
Imagine thinking dairy is a healthy choice for adults XD. not even going to mention the environmental effects and the disgusting animal cruelty, health reasons alone are enough to stay away from it.
for humans*
@@guaranagaucho3071 for adults*. Human breast milk is meant for human babies.
Imagine thinking dairy isn't healthy XD
@@marcussmithwick6326 you mean being scientifically literate* :). Fixed it for ya.
@@WTFisMYname24dont pretend to be scientifically literate when you're argument is based off your feelings. One look at your profile and it's easy to tell this is how you judge what is "scientifically literate". Poor soul. Xo
I’m convinced that over the millennium humans have survived by eating anything they could figure out was more healthy than unhealthy, and somewhat palatable. This included meat and dairy. People lived long enough to reproduce and raise a family, and thus the human race continued. But in these times of food bounty we are seeing the effects of various types of diet on the body. Now we can make more optimal health choices and plant based whole food diets are coming out on top.
Well said.
Yes, the PRINGLES/OREOS/PEPSI DIET is really bad for the human body.
I think so too. But only marginally. It looks to me like these hard line long term eating habits like veganism, or carnivore, animal protein/vegan keto, or carb fuelled are all fine. You can be as healthy as you want to be and consume any animal protein that you desire. Same with living on Vegetables alone. And the same seems to true for keto or carb fuelled bodies.
Once you're focused on your own health and moving towards eating healthier than you did before then you will get healthier. It's as simple as that.
The problem with channels like this one is that they seem to be very boxed in by their chosen diet, It's all reaffirmation of their chosen ideology.
If you listen to this guy's videos you pick up on his not so subtle opinion that consuming animal proteins is bad for human health. Which is ridiculous of course.
The quagmire of bullshit that all these diet-for-long-term-health channels confound and mislead their viewers with is using statistics to lie.
But they are an amazing resource. Not so much this guy though.
@@markbryant4641 sorry but no. Studies indicate that low carb protocols increase all cause mortality. We will see that play out in the next few decades. Meat is unhealthy because it causes chronic inflammation which leads to cardiovascular disease and cancer. I could explain exactly how this happens if you like.
@@SMABEM Thanks Matt, but no need. I've been interested in in this for some time.
Meat can be consumed regularly by people who stay free of heart disease as well as cancer.
This is the problem with running on statistics alone. They can be very misleading.
I am very interested to see how different diets effect people long term. Like you mentioned, time will tell.
I'm not anti vegan, or anti carb. Or anti meat or lectins or alcohol or sugar.
I'm listening and learning. In reading and listening to different doctors and dieticians there are many parallels and many contradictions. A lot to think about for sure.
Our bodies are so adaptive and so efficient at healing themselves that a lot of what is considered to be bad for your health, such as the meat you mentioned can be eaten with zero short, medium or long term health problems arising.
Was going to alert you about this bogus-ness, Mike. Glad you beat me to the punch. How does the press fall for this crap?
A lot of people alerted me! Just glad I picked a relevant topic.
it just makes me mad that news and media outlets are alllowed to push false claims like this (i mean, obv this goes for a lot of things)
Agreed. It is corruption. 🤑
Bahahaha that meme at the beginning about butter ‘I’m back.....on your backside’ the majority of people do not need more fat in their diet, particularly dairy
Thanks a lot for doing this video, I was afraid that study was going to do some damages. You really did a great job.
As a Swede, I can confirm that dairy is a huge part of the Swedish food culture. Schools are required to have milk available, and hard cheeses and yoghurts are also consumed in very high amounts. Comparatively, the Swedish dairy industry is very big despite the small population of Sweden. It's not as corrupt as the American dairy industry (because lobbying and corruption is thankfully much harder here) but they're trying very hard.
Thanks Mic, I saw this reported in the Guardian and went and looked at the study. Unfortunately my statistical skills are not the best and so I thought, Mic's gonna have to sort this one out. Great work as always! As for contributors to the study, The National Heart Foundation of Australia also love a bit of dairy in their meal plans. Makes you wonder...
As-ever, thank you so much for doing what you do! Really sad how dead-set humans are on killing animals and destroying our planet (not to mention one’s health).
Something to keep in mind, the "good news about your bad habit" thing is amplified even more in this case since dairy is so intertwined with their culture.
Nicely done Mic! When I saw this doing the rounds I wondered how they'd cooked the books.
Gotta love the dairy industry! One day it's "full fat milk is good for you" the next is "low fat milk is good for you" conveniently they sell both
One of the few UA-cam videos WITHOUT non skippable ads! 👍🏻
'Dairy goggles' 😊. Nice monk 😊😊. Actually I'll have to watch the video again with more concentration but you seem to have shown piggybacking onto the effects, beneficial, of fibre in order to show dairy in a positive light. Very good to point that out. Keep at it, more power to your indefatigable efforts to clear the air and interpret things fairly. 👏👊.
I noticed that in the slide of founders of the study there is Eli Lilly just next to Swedish Dairy Association. Eli Lilly is the pharmaceutical company, so they are rubbing their hands with glee. More tablets sold.
top-notch detective work on this one, thanks Mic
Great work Mic! I was really hoping that you would address this issue because the dairy industry has been relying on these biomarkers for far too long now with surprisingly little push-back in spite of concerns having been raised about their inappropriate use at least as long ago as 2008 when Elwood wrote "On the basis of all of this evidence, it seems inappropriate to accept an estimate of IHD risk based on plasma concentrations of 15:0 to be relevant to the health consequences of milk and dairy food consumption" (Doi: 10.1093/ajcn/87.5.1540). At that time we didn't know about endogenous production - but confirmation of this link, particularly with fibre, should have been the final nail in the coffin of OCSFAs as dairy biomarkers. The fact it carried on makes you wonder how effectively the peer-reviewers kept up with the science...
Was hoping you would do this vid!!!
How does the higher saturated fat intake of the French sit with this debunking / debunkment / debunkation of dairy fat with respect to heart disease?
Great job but you know that most people will just believe the conclusion of the study which is that dairy is healthy. So frustrating. Ugh
❤️ saturated fat
Please debunk the Weston a prince institute/nourishing traditions type diets! It’s so weird seeing all these “holistic” people on Twitter obsessing over raw milk, organ meats, and “animal based diets” 😒
He won't 🤣
I don't understand those people. Sure, you can cut out some negative effect by creating the worlds least sustainable diet if done by masses. Why they don't see that that is absurd, is crazy. Not to mention that better is still not plant based good
@@vix7146 He's critiqued Weston Price ideas numerous times. The whole WP line of thinking is clouded by lots of misconceptions about the past and present.
The thing is, just going by what I’ve experienced since ditching even vegan fats (olive oil, vegan butter, coconut in some vegan processed stuff), the whooshing I could hear for the past few years in my right ear (maybe from turbulent blood flow from a partial blockage?) has disappeared. I have given up most processed vegan garbage foods to avoid the oils and just cook whole vegan foods at home.
Is that proof of anything? I’m 49 so to me it is. All fat in the diet is sus
A very low fat diet will take a few years to destroy your health.
Hail Seitan! What does sus mean? Short for suspicious or suspect?
I just actually had bloodwork done last week after about 5 years of not having done any (I am 45), as I generally avoid doctor visits unless necessary. I eat a low carb diet, which does include chicken, fish and a moderate amount of red meat, but also vegetables, nuts and plenty of dairy (cheese, lots of butter and some milk / heavy cream), dark chocolate (90%), and tea/coffee instead of sugary drinks/fruit juice etc.. Anyway, my health markers are all terrific with total cholesterol being at 137, HDL being 42 and LDL at 81. The most notable change however from 5 years ago are my Triglycerides, which are an important marker of heart health / fat in blood / possible buildup of plaque and an indication if you are consuming more calories than you are burning. 5 years ago, this number was at 186, which is on the high side (below 150 is the recommended number). In the last 5 years, I have mostly cut simple/processed carbs, processed /fast foods and sugars and have actually increased my saturated fat and protein intake, while also increasing my daily exercise, mostly walking after meals and occasional dumbell bicep/shoulder exercises. All of this to say that these changes have led to an incredible reduction in my Triglycerides, which are now very healthy at 66 ;)
If dairy, meat, and salt were healthy, nearly every American would be in excellent health.
the SAD diet is plant based - you would die without sufficient salt - - to this day, there is still no clear indication that dairy and meat, the most nutrient dense foods on the planet, promote ill health
@@craggerrs are you just purposely choosing to ignore all recent findings linking higher animal consumption to disease?
@@Mikebigmike94 they are only ever correlative links. Without sufficient control, like in the case of dietary cholesterol demonisation, we have no good reason to believe such a link is causative - - as in the case of cholesterol, it turns out that cholesterol is actually responsible for protecting against arterial ruptures rather than being the cause, as previously asserted - let me clarify: no causative link has ever been shown between meat and dairy, the most nutrient dense foods on the planet, and disease. I am directly referring to all of the recent findings. Vegans seem to think that studies that indicate meat/dairybad couldnt possibly be corrupted by industry funding which is absurd being that the petrochemical industry and even the companies who established the demonic factory farming prctices, are all heavily invested in plant ag which is much more profitable than animal ag. And dont give me the 'animals eat all the plants' bull - the animals that are fed grains are almost entirely fed shells and husks that wouldnt even be edible to humans in the first place.
@@craggerrs sat fat causes heart disease. It’s just a fact. Some cholesterol is good but some is bad. The stuff you’re eating in flesh, eggs etc is not good.
Vegans are healthier. Live with the fact
@@Mikebigmike94 had the worst health of my life eating wholefoods plant based - literally worse than when I ate junk food on a regular basis
"Elizabeth, I'm coming to join ya honey, it's the big one!" Was Sanford vegan?
And then there is the latest Adventist 2 study that came out a few weeks ago and said, breast cancer risk was reduced 40% by those who ate dairy. And yes, the researchers were shocked at these results.
"And then there is the latest Adventist 2 study that came out a few weeks ago and said, breast cancer risk was reduced 40% by those who ate dairy." Uh, do you have a link for that, because this is what the earlier findings were from Adventist II: More dairy linked to more breast cancer:
"A possible role for dairy consumption in breast cancer risk has been suggested by international comparisons showing strong correlations between dairy intake and breast cancer risk and by the marked increase in breast cancer incidence in Japan following that country’s massive increase in dairy consumption toward the end of the 20th century.[74],[75] In the Adventist Health Study-2, including 52,795 North American women, higher dairy milk intake was associated with higher risk of breast cancer, with a 50% increased risk among those with the highest, compared with lowest, milk intake. The results were similar for full-fat and reduced-fat milk products. Soy milk consumption was not associated with increased risk. Biological plausibility comes from the presence of estrogens in cow’s milk products, which, although modest in comparison with endogenous production, nonetheless appears to be sufficient to alter a variety of physiological processes.[76]"
Fraser GE, Jaceldo-Siegl K, Orlich M, et al. Dairy, soy, and risk of breast cancer: those confounded milks. Int J Epidemiol. 2020;49(5):1526-1537. [PMID:32095830]
@@karlwheatley1244 The Association between Dairy Intake and Breast Cancer in Western and Asian Populations: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis
''We analyzed 22 prospective cohort studies (1,566,940 participants) and five case-control studies (33,372 participants). High and modest dairy consumption (>600 and 400-600 g/day, respectively) significantly reduced the risk of breast cancer compared with low dairy consumption (
It depends on which dairy fat. Fermented milk products score very differently in studies compared to non-fermented products. With the first one scoring as healthy and the second as not healthy. Butter is the second, obviously.
Thanks for another great video!
The people in India consume alot of ghee..and they are healthy..minus your all American processed high sugar food.. unprocessed whole food in india is better than mcdonald's...
Get 'em, Mic! 🌱
Perhaps the problem is not the fat or saturated fat at all (or high protein consumption) but that people have been eating shitloads of added sugars, refined/processed carbs and unhealthy oils (fast foods) in combination with all of the meat and dairy? Have you ever considered this? You always quick to blame anything animal consumption to health problems, but so many people that regularly consume meat, full fat dairy and eggs have perfect health markers and cholesterol levels as well. It should also be said that LDL IS NOT automatically BAD. We NEED CHOLESTEROL. All of our cells contain Cholesterol. It's also necessary for many hormones. It's when the LDL becomes oxidized that there are potential heart / artery issues. What causes oxidation of LDL? : consumption of fried foods, PUFA (vegetable cooking oils), margarines, baked goods., smoking... I don't advise eating tons of saturated fats, but do not believe their consumption is anywhere near as damaging as sugar, simple carbs and fast foods.
"It should also be said that LDL IS NOT automatically BAD. We NEED CHOLESTEROL. All of our cells contain Cholesterol." No one is saying LDL is inherently bad, they are saying ELEVATED LDL is bad, and research shows that having elevated LDL is causal in heart disease.
"It's when the LDL becomes oxidized that there are potential heart / artery issues." To high LDL causes atherosclerosis, and too high LDL also means its more likely more of it becomes oxidized.
"What causes oxidation of LDL? : consumption of fried foods, PUFA (vegetable cooking oils), margarines, baked goods." Exposing cholesterol-rich foods to air, light, cooking, and reheating all also create oxidation of cholesterol, and then eating those foods raises a person's level of oxidized cholesterol. Yes, processed food is unhealthy, but so is eating too many eggs or too much saturated animal fat.
🕉 absolutely enlightening
thanks for breaking it down and sharing it with us ✌🏻
Poly unsaturated fats are bad. Butter is good
The research is very clear that whole food polyunsaturated fats are healthier and people should limit saturated animal fats. Even in this study, people didn't eat much cheese.
I’m so glad you made this video! I’ve been waiting ever since I saw the study
I just saw some carnist posting this , and was waiting for some vegan to debunk . Thanks for debunkin
With enough Money you can change reality!!!!
Hahaha family members sent all of these news articles to me… I’ve been waiting to send them this video.
And… thank you for all you do!
"Debunk monk"...😂👍nice one
This guy is so prideful who would listen to him ?
People who cares about the truth?
What?
Correlation does NOT equal causation?
You should have a live talk with Bart Kay re: correlation findings and how they *totally* prove all vegan claims
That wasn’t the problem here. They misdefined/mismeasured the independent variable. There likely is both correlation and causation, but of fiber intake and lower risk, not dairy intake and lower risk.
For the first time, you got this one 50% wrong. However that's the same success rate as Nina Tiechols. Animals who are fed modern grains will have trans fat present in their tissues thus passing it on to those who consume the tissues. This is the correlation to your well documented studies, the one question never asked: What are they feeding the animal? But both you and Nina will espouse the benefits of olive oil. I think you both mean well and are only trying to help people but you're both half wrong on this issue largely because you don't ask the most important question: What is the chemical structure of each so-called 'saturated fat'? Calling a coconut saturated fat and a beef tallow saturated fat seems to ignore the scientific difference in their chemical structures. A different structure, no matter how small, even having a single electron missing will dramatically alter how this substance behaves toward other substances.
What do you think Mic got wrong? He clearly differentiates different types of saturated fats and he even shows the chemical structures of the most relevant ones for the Swedish study (pentadecanoic and heptadecanoic acid @ 2.49)! . What they are feeding the animal is largely irrelevant to this video and Mic doesn't 'espouse the benefits of olive oil' either!
Are you sure that you actually watched the video?
@@alanwatsontravel He dismisses Nina Teichols outright which isn't fair because she's not wrong about the unscientific nature of Ansel Keys' 7 country study. She also espouses how wrong it was to follow a 'lowfat guideline' set by our own government which by broad definition includes the consumption of omega 6 oils. Furthermore, no one ever takes into account the effects of saturated animal fat on humans by age which itself is deeply flawed logic considering Mic's own constant appraisal of dr Esselstyn whom always rails against TMAO. The biggest problem vegans have is that even though they are using more science to back their claims and largely have most debates properly won, they tend to take it too far with injecting broad claims by epidemiology. Epidemiology is not scientific and again, no ever ever looks at the data on humans before the age of 35 vs after 35 which would take the debate into a more scientific approach.
Does anyone else find it strange that 6 out of the 14 co-authors were from Australia; in a Swedish study?
How come you only look at the conflict of interests on some studies and not others?
He does
Great work as always. Keep it up!
Great work, thank you very much!
Thank you!!!!
Meanwhile their neighbors in the south have better health the higher their cholesterol is... how contradictory.
Just found your channel and I'm really enjoying it. New subscriber.
No harm "per se". That's one very loaded 'per se.'
Oh, please bring the Debunk Monk back! He is great!
Not your mother - not your milk
Nor the stage in life milk was designed for.
Been vegan for about 5 years now,but occasionally eat liver and bacon.My mum cooked this for us as kids and I can’t resist it.
I want to know if peeling my chick peas is costing me nutritional value? Also is watermelon juice just as good for High Blood Pressure as actual whole watermelon? And does cooking AMLA powder Indian Gooseberry kill its free radical benefits. These are my questions of existential necessity.
Shelling chickpeas does take away some on the nutrition, if fruit or veg is juiced so that they are no longer attached to fiber (or ‘juicy bits’) then they stop being a green light food and become an amber light food, I’m afraid I don’t know about the cooking of a la powder but dr Gregor would probably know.
@@howellheather6969 Thank you. Yes the amber comes in because of the sugar blast but I'm wondering if the citruline(sp?) still hits the spot, i.e. does the citruline (which they believe is the catalyst for HBP reduction) still get to where it needs to go to be effective- such as the colon because it's attached to watermelon still or does it still work just by getting to your gut ? Or since you've separated it from watermelon structure does it just go bye bye with your urine?
Cooking AMLA certainly destroys some antioxidants like the high vitamin C content.
@@howellheather6969 Yeah Dr. Greger said he hadn't seen many studies on cooked AMLA or Indian Gooseberry so if he hasn't I doubt anyone else has. You're very sharp, thank you for your insights.
Brillant Video, it's really good to have this at my fingertips when discussing this with people who've swallowed this article.
What’re the lowest processed cooking oils?
Extra virgin olive and extra virgin raw coconut.
I havent use dairy products about 4 years and i always hated taste of milk. My skin is glowing even thou i do have acne on chin, but its not like omg level its in control just because i cut dairy. I always felt sluggish when i ate dairy (ibs) mb gut issues and bloating was main cause for overall mood.
Im from finland and people drink alot of milk we have low fat milk (light blue), normal (blue), and high fat milk (red)
And btw why eating raw celery causes acne is its just sign of get rid of toxins
Seed oils are causing your acne. See: Chris Knobbe and Tucker Goodrich.
Great breakdown of this deceptive study!
It appears that Mic is suffering from Beriberi ...
Indeed. He's really starting to look like a long-term vegan. Unhealthy and going down hill fast.
I think it's important for claims to be supported by scientific evidence, at least a reference so we can go look at it. Also, there are different levels of the veracity of medical science, and many meta-studies are not well designed or performed, and many are severely biased.
There are varying levels of veracity of vegan studies, also. Many have weaker evidence but there is a fair number with very strong evidence. I'm very skeptical of any studies which looks at individual food items. A great deal of them have extremely weak evidence or design, and many have high balance.
I don't like to completely disregard studies with weak evidence. I just like to effectively weight the study in my mind when evaluating.
Thanks, Mic!
Even saw a supplement out now with (vegan) 15 OCFA. Just eat the damn plant fiber.
mic the confirmation bias guy
thanks Mic!
“Greatest hits of your bad habit” haha that’s great!
Butter is better no matter what you said😜
Peanut butter?
@@bagaskarapangestu7873 no normal dairy butter🤣
@Bill T no it is healthy.I think you has phytoestrogen addiction.
@Bill T i dont need help.I think animal products are healthy.
What I took away from this video is that I can eat my Vegenaise guilt free. Lol 😂
I am embarrassed to have roots in Sweden.
Processed vegetable oil is probably the worst thing you could eat.
Man, you are good. When I heard of this new "dairy is great" claim, I figured you would take a look too. Thanks for living up to my expectations--as always. Fiber, thank you too. Even if you get robbed, you still do your work.
"Verse" 2:32
Please make a video about creatine. Do vegans need it? Is it neurodegenic? Your thought? Please like to upvote so Mike may see this. Love the content !
"The results, published in the November 2020 Journal of Alzheimer's Disease, showed that red wine and cheese was most likely to prevent cognitive decline. Cheese was found the be the most effective food to prevent against a decline in age-related brain function"
Meanwhile, other research shows that eating more fat in midlife was strongly related to dementia later on--and cheese has been implicated in other studies.
@@karlwheatley1244 that's why extra virgin olive oil is known to prevent the build-up of amyloid plaques in the brain that lead to Alzheimer's, so much for your vegan inspired phobia of dietary fat.
@@SmippeHyrst "that's why extra virgin olive oil is known to prevent the build-up of amyloid plaques in the brain that lead to Alzheimer's" If you have research studies that prove that EVOO is GOOD for the brain--not just less bad than saturated animal fat, I'm all ears... please link them.
Until then, the largest study we have that addresses this (PREDIMED) found that the thickest arterial plaques actually got thicker over a few years in people eating the Mediterranean diet supplemented with olive oil. They got thinner in people eating a Mediterranean diet supplemented with walnuts.
EVOO is still a highly processed food, but if you have any great studies to back up what you just write, please link them.
Take care.
@@karlwheatley1244 oh really, there are people in the Mediterranean who actually spend an entire lifetime substituting walnuts in place of EVOO? And what I can say is that low HDL cholesterol is linked to an increased risk of depression and dementia "EVOO contains more than 30 phenolic compounds including oleocanthal and oleuropein aglycone that possess beneficial affects against both Aβ and tau pathologies" Extra-Virgin Olive Oil Attenuates Amyloid-β and Tau Pathologies in the Brains of TgSwDI Mice, Hisham Qosa, Loqman A. Mohamed, [...], and Amal Kaddoumi
@@SmippeHyrst Thanks for your reply. ""EVOO contains more than 30 phenolic compounds including oleocanthal and oleuropein aglycone that possess beneficial affects against both Aβ and tau pathologies"
When considering the effects of eating one food or diet versus another, you have have to consider ALL the compounds in each and ALL the effects of each. Of course EVOO has some modest amounts of phytonutrients, but it also is largely pure processed fat, and you can get the beneficial phytonutrients without the concentrated processed fat by eating whole olive and other whole plant foods.
In nutrition research, everything is always "compared to what"? So for mice or humans who get very little phytonutrients from their diet and would otherwise eat more animal fat or processed mice chow, if they do better with some olive oil instead, that could mean EVOO is actually a net benefit to health, or it could mean it is less harmful in its net effects than was the alternative.
"h really, there are people in the Mediterranean who actually spend an entire lifetime substituting walnuts in place of EVOO?"
1) There is no one version of THE Mediterranean diet--is is different things in different places and for different individuals.
2) People eating most variants of the Mediterranean diet still have high rates of preventable chronic diseases. Thus, while it's better than the lousy American diet, there's still significant room for improvement.
3) The Med diet was beat out in a recent study by a low fat vegan diet.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33544066/
4) The study in question was an experimental study in which people were assigned to different groups for a few years. Making a point of eating walnuts with your Med diet helped plaques, EVOO didn't, and the thickest plaques got thicker.
Take care.
Ok, allot of that was above my pay grade... Lol
Can you do a video on citrus fruits and if it’s actually good for the human body since it’s not the best for teeth?
Excellent sleuthing of this study!
I saw this the other day Mike and thought of you. Thanks for taking care of this.
Way to go Mic
This is nonsense, saturated fat is the healthiest thing for your body, it's highly preferred by mitochondria to produce energy and makes cell linings far more stable. On top of that, it's way less prone to oxidation, unlike polyunsaturated fats which are responsible for chronic inflammation and heart disease. Heart disease was unheard on until the 1900s, when we started eating refined vegetable/seed oils. We've been eating saturated fats from animal foods for a million years with no heart problems lol, it's just common sense.
Eskimos had atherosclerosis so that’s wrong
@@tyeades975 wut lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
@@jimtams Inuit eskimos had high rates of atherosclerosis so yes it does cause heart disease
@@tyeades975 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 just stop bro lmaoooooo you're embarrassing yourself
@@jimtams “just stop bro” you’re in the 8th grade and watch joe Rogan for diet advice💀
Now my eyes are forever scared from thatmonk impression.... I can never unseen you as an angry monk again.
You are now an angry monk.RAISE and claim your title and the stick of wisdom (?)
Markers, Bio Markers.
ty Mic
Hey i have just recently gone vegan about 2 weeks and am having a lot of gas and others issues i was wondering if anyone else had this issue and if it goes away after a while
It takes your body awhile to adjust.
Replace the plants with animal products that get digested before they reach the colon and thus don't cause gas. Eat a human specific diet rather than a herbivore diet.
@@DoodlesMcpooh The problem with that plan is that a) some animal protein DOES get through to the colon, and b) the healthiest diets are diets where most or all calories come from whole plant foods.
@@karlwheatley1244 a) only when plant foods cause digestive issues. b) Complete nonsense and not supported by real science.
You're an indoctrinated fool. Maybe if you looked at things outside your bubble occasionally, you wouldn't be so insufferable and miserable.
@@DoodlesMcpooh Thanks for your reply.
As someone who researches and teaches nutrition (and researches why people believe nutrition myths)...
a) The diets that cause less digestive issues are diets with lots of whole plant foods. Humans and our ancestors have been eating lots of whole plant foods for millions of year. b) There is a mountain of research that shows THAT diets dominated by whole plant foods are healthier and WHY that is true.
Major chronic diseases ramp up with increasing consumption of processed foods AND with increasing consumption of animal foods. Those are just the facts.
Take care.
Eat like A MASAI. Eat Goat and milk.
Please look after yourself better, you look very unwell.
Could you do a video on fruitarianism?