The amp sims in Amplitube don't have enough gain and need an EQ pedal in front of them to sound good. Even then they have total lack of top end beyond 10khz. I don't have any of these problems with Helix Native.
The best part is its built in speaker sim IMO. They used a robot rig to capture thousands upon thousands of mic positions that can be infinitely moved and blended. I've been using it with my real amps/load boxes and even before tweaking I'm happier with the results than the standalone commercial IR's I've tried.
I have been using A5 Max for more than a year and I love it. The factory presets are amazing more than 4000 and once you start tweaking them like you sky is the limit.
Nice vid! I love when elitists mock Amplitube, so I am glad you showed it just isn't true. These people can't tell me that Amplitube 5 wasn't a huge improvement for Amplitube and certainly (to my ears) sounds the best out of the mainstream "all the tones" bundles. Sure, Neural's stuff sounds just a hair better to me, but it's also $100+ for one amp and a few effects for each plugin. That being said, I would rather have one fantastic tone than a ton of half baked ones.
It has been nice for quite a few years. The problem it has it keeps its older models around, without upgrading the sound / tech of it. So you have the exact same modeling in Amplitube5 on most of the basic models, but the named models or the MESA pack for instance use way newer modeling approaches / tech. And yes , that can make quite a different. So I always have said that Amplitube didn't deserve the mocking, and great sounds can be had from it (but that's also true for older bean-pods ...). Comparing the roar of AmpCraft's 5150-style amp to Amplitube's quite recent SJ50 did make Amplitube sound quite a bit off, though. A low-mid growl that is there in the Helix Panama, Revalver 4's 6505 or AmpCraft, but not in the SJ50. Doesn't mean anything for the older models, and still does not make the model sound bad at all... For a 5150 style amp, I just prefer different models I noticed.
The SVX-VR from the SVX 2 expansion is really cool. It's a bass amp, but if you run your guitar through it and dime most of the knobs, it provides a unique distortion that makes the amp sound like it's breaking. In a good way.
Amplitube 5 is by far, and I do really mean that, by very far the best sounding software if listening with the headphones. The sounds are just orgasmic.
Would love to hear more of the Amplitube models compared with the ones you have the real amp of. I have the software so would interesting to know what I'm missing out on...
Sorry to put it in such a confusing way, for me it was from amplitube deluxe reverb to the real thing, and the character of the amp was there, but it sounded much more full and alive. Not that the amplitube sounded dead, not even close, but the real thing was just better.
I use Amplitube 5 all the time for practicing at home. Much better than hauling my gear to and from practice. I agree though that some of the amps have different gain than their real life counterparts. Other than that, I love Amplitube. Been using it since Amplitube 2 and Amplitube Metal!
ALL these presets you showed sounded great but I have a question...everything you did was in stereo....di you double track or run the presets in stereo and if that...how did you go about that? Thanks
I don’t think people should sleep on Amplitube anymore… their Mark IIC+ is one of the best Mark sims I’ve ever tried, next to Reaxis (agreed that the gain is a little too low though and needs a little input boost). It’s killer and so satisfying to play. The Mark V is pretty spot on too, though smoother and less saturated which is actually pretty faithful to the real amp, which I’ve owned for years. IK hit a home run with Mesa Boogie 2.
Intriguing to hear. I am a recovered Mark amp addict feeling the itch for them again. Out of curiosity, can you comment on if the Mark IV and III sims live in the same realm of praise as your comments on the V and IIC+. I have owned the latter options over the years but deduced I would have preferred the former ones in hindsight. However, the IIC+ and V come from the newer package release and seemingly updated technology while the IV and III are older and not as updated.
@@Tiger1016. I don't really use the III, but the IV is really good too - they're all similar but just have different voicings (as with the real amps). IIC+ & V are definitely the best two though. As I mentioned one frustration with the newer models is they seem a little low on the gain, you have to turn up the input gain in Amplitube by about 6 to 10db in order to get the taper of the gain knob correct to the real amps. The IV doesn't have that.
I have an AxeFx III Turbo...FM3....a Mesa Mark IV.....Friedman WW20....Strymon pedals..."quality" reactive load boxes, etc. and before all this owned a TON of amps from Lazy Js to Tone Kings, Fargens, Splawns...to me, I can make all of it sound great and sound aweful. I'm having a lot of fun with Ampltube 5 Max. Using the AxeIO and a pair of Adam A7X. In a mix (and frankly, even isolated), I don't think my most high end is ORDERS of magnitude better. For the price (and perhaps regardless), I'm considering selling off a bunch of stuff for my home use needs.....
Perfect tone in the Mark II, i have the same but sounds too bad. The Amplitube version is free and i can't put IR, but works in the same way if turn off the cabinet and load IR with Nadir? Please share the tips.
My only problem with Amplitube is its so slow to load. Same with Helix Native. And Bias Amp. It's one of the main reasons I haven't gone away from TH-U and various single Amp VSTs.
I really like the effects and racks in the software. The amps are ok... I have better amp sims for what I like. But I don't like the cab section. I always use external IRs with this software. You got some really nice tones here.
Thank you very much for this interesting video! I use Amplitube as plug-in in Cubase but I don’t know how make Amplitube to receive program change message from Cubase. Can you help me? Many thanks
Looking into Amplitube and other softwares. I always used amps, but looking to get into home recording. what is a good, effective laptop for home recording? don’t want to break the bank. is the apple mac air good? or a windows laptop? thanks for the help!
Sounds super awesome, great playing as usual. What kind of audio interface do you use? They sound so clean and crisp. I suppose you use some type of power conditioner as well to get rid of hum from mains? It shows you don’t need $3k modelling set up to get pro results.
Made em sound good. What I find lacking, in most if not all plug-ins, is the upper sizzle. When it is there, it's not pleasant, like a semi covered in broken glass going into the back of my head. That being said, they are leaps and bounds better than they used to be. What I would like to see, are amps that aren't based on a real model. Then a real amp company tries to copy that. That day will come.
I'm not exactly a metalhead but the Mesa Boogie sounds phenomenal. This is the first time I've seen a review using the Impulse Response. I was not aware that this feature exists. What exactly is it used for and how do you access it / load it? Thanks.
Man I'm loving the tones and your playing! Why am I dragging my feet on the cost? $175 US after using my IK points. Has anyone done the math of what it would cost to buy all this in real life hardware?
Ok. I pulled the trigger on the full version. $162 out the door after finding a great discount code. No regrets, the possibilities are endless. It's changed the way I play guitar, now I'm chasing tones vs playing. LOL
Amplitube 5 user here....question: Is there any way to jam Amplitube 5 out of a guitar speaker instead of my monitors? Can some kind of hardware like a power amp be used in between the interface-out and the cabinet-speaker?? As comments on this video allude to: I'm looking for a more satisfying way to approach playing with "plug-ins". I got amplitube 5 since I had to sell my gear before closing on a home...
Yes, easy. They make power amps in stomp pedal form factor. Just go out from interface to power amp in and out with speaker cable to your cab. I've been doing this for years, it's a great solution. All my amps and pedals were sold off long ago. Just remember to disable the cabinet in the sim.
If you want to be able to benefit from the cabinet section in Amplitube, you want an FRFR speaker, like what you would connect to a modeler like the AxeFX or Kemper. Like other people have suggested though, you can also disable the cabinet section and go directly into a power amp/cabinet combination, like plugging into the FX return of a regular amp or by using a dedicated power amp like a Seymour Duncan PowerStage.
He loaded his own but the built in cabs are done with IR's this time. 600/2400 positions per speaker/cab that you can move the virtual mics around. You need to buy the base paid version (not just an amp pack) to get the functionality though which is annoying.
@@JN-qj9gf Thanks! I am looking in getting full version of Amplitube 5. I was reading that now you can upload IRs, but wasn’t sure. Since Jon is using, what can be, purchased IRs (forgot the name of the ones he is using) therefore my question. I’m lazy to start building my own 🤣
amplitube 3 and 4 were not impressive. But to me version 5 is a real game changer. of course, not every model is good but I really enjoy most of theme (mesa, orange, fender...) . Try it before saying anything.
4 was definitely hamstrung by not having an IR loader, though you could always work around it by disabling the cabinet section and using a standalone IR loader in your plugin chain. Still, annoying to have to do that, and not as efficient. That said, there were some great sounds to be had in 4, I really liked the Vintage Metal Lead tone (basically a Marshall JMP100) in particular.
I wish they would start making modeling amps like positive grid. As great as the software is there's always latency no matter what I set the buffer to.
,not bad but sounds a little bit the same all the amps ,the only effect i like from amplitube is their trichorus reall great. for amps i prefer more the overloud riglibrary its a little bit more thea real amp. but nothin replace an real amp.
@@vinnyguerriero5150 well I'm nowhere near a professional or world class guitar player but the best plugins I've tried are Neural DSP's Fortin Cali, Nameless, Gojira and Nolly), Mercuriall (Reaxis, Spark), Nembrini (Cali Dual, 8180), and I'm interested in giving the II II II II by Otto Audio a try next.
@@Saurion1 Thanks. I tend to think of Neural DSP as geared toward metal players. I might be wrong. I find it easy to get high gain tones that are good/great from different platforms. It’s the vintage/cleans with dynamics to be harder. That said, I am pleased with AmpliTube 5 on that front.
@@vinnyguerriero5150 some NDSP plugins are not for metal, like the Cory Wong or the Tone King, and some are extremely versatile, like the Tim Henson and the Petrucci ones. Mercuriall Spark emulates 4 different classic Marshall amps, so you got plenty of variety there. Nembrini also has old school Marshall and Fender amp sims. Nevertheless, I play mostly metal so that's what I'm more familiar with.
What do you guys think?
I didn't expect that.Sims ok.But Amplitube?Do you really see it pro?
You can get some pro tones out of it for sure!
@@SonicDriveStudio Try
Soldano than and be ready for a shock.They added it for free some time ago.
The amp sims in Amplitube don't have enough gain and need an EQ pedal in front of them to sound good. Even then they have total lack of top end beyond 10khz. I don't have any of these problems with Helix Native.
I've always been fun of Amplitube! I love Engl and Orange simulations sooo much :)
I really like Amplitube, the Orange amp models sound awesome. Thanks for the vid!
Damn man that section from 11:43 onwards is beautiful metal stuff. That plays with the rhythm so nicely and the transition is super on point.
The best part is its built in speaker sim IMO. They used a robot rig to capture thousands upon thousands of mic positions that can be infinitely moved and blended. I've been using it with my real amps/load boxes and even before tweaking I'm happier with the results than the standalone commercial IR's I've tried.
Love your work John always. you consitently show everyone that tone is in how the person dials it not really the equipment all the time.
I have been using A5 Max for more than a year and I love it. The factory presets are amazing more than 4000 and once you start tweaking them like you sky is the limit.
Nice vid! I love when elitists mock Amplitube, so I am glad you showed it just isn't true. These people can't tell me that Amplitube 5 wasn't a huge improvement for Amplitube and certainly (to my ears) sounds the best out of the mainstream "all the tones" bundles. Sure, Neural's stuff sounds just a hair better to me, but it's also $100+ for one amp and a few effects for each plugin. That being said, I would rather have one fantastic tone than a ton of half baked ones.
It has been nice for quite a few years. The problem it has it keeps its older models around, without upgrading the sound / tech of it. So you have the exact same modeling in Amplitube5 on most of the basic models, but the named models or the MESA pack for instance use way newer modeling approaches / tech. And yes , that can make quite a different.
So I always have said that Amplitube didn't deserve the mocking, and great sounds can be had from it (but that's also true for older bean-pods ...). Comparing the roar of AmpCraft's 5150-style amp to Amplitube's quite recent SJ50 did make Amplitube sound quite a bit off, though. A low-mid growl that is there in the Helix Panama, Revalver 4's 6505 or AmpCraft, but not in the SJ50.
Doesn't mean anything for the older models, and still does not make the model sound bad at all... For a 5150 style amp, I just prefer different models I noticed.
Love the hard riff with the boogie sim
The SVX-VR from the SVX 2 expansion is really cool. It's a bass amp, but if you run your guitar through it and dime most of the knobs, it provides a unique distortion that makes the amp sound like it's breaking. In a good way.
cant wait to listen to your comparison between amplitube mark V and a real mark V.
Wow 😳 you're one of the rare I have seen using York audio pulses....I have the mesa and Friedman ones and really like them
Great review, awesome tones and playing!
was really hoping for an Orange walkthrough since you have so many and know the tone! Considering getting this for the Orange amps!
Amplitube 5 is by far, and I do really mean that, by very far the best sounding software if listening with the headphones. The sounds are just orgasmic.
Can’t wait to see the blind test between this and the real amp (would be cool to throw in the THU plugin for a comparison on this one as well!)
Would love to hear more of the Amplitube models compared with the ones you have the real amp of. I have the software so would interesting to know what I'm missing out on...
From my experience, if you think the digital amp sounds good, get the real thing cause it will sound the same, but 1000x better.
Sorry to put it in such a confusing way, for me it was from amplitube deluxe reverb to the real thing, and the character of the amp was there, but it sounded much more full and alive. Not that the amplitube sounded dead, not even close, but the real thing was just better.
I use Amplitube 5 all the time for practicing at home. Much better than hauling my gear to and from practice. I agree though that some of the amps have different gain than their real life counterparts. Other than that, I love Amplitube. Been using it since Amplitube 2 and Amplitube Metal!
best vst. the fact you can emulate PEAVEY 1:1 makes this pluging 10/10
The SVX Bass Collection is very underrated!
Sounds amazing man! What interface are you using ?
Love it! Great work! Thank you.🇨🇦
ALL these presets you showed sounded great but I have a question...everything you did was in stereo....di you double track or run the presets in stereo and if that...how did you go about that? Thanks
Great video, what tuning is that riff at 8:00 in? 🤟🤟🤟
I don’t think people should sleep on Amplitube anymore… their Mark IIC+ is one of the best Mark sims I’ve ever tried, next to Reaxis (agreed that the gain is a little too low though and needs a little input boost). It’s killer and so satisfying to play.
The Mark V is pretty spot on too, though smoother and less saturated which is actually pretty faithful to the real amp, which I’ve owned for years. IK hit a home run with Mesa Boogie 2.
Intriguing to hear. I am a recovered Mark amp addict feeling the itch for them again. Out of curiosity, can you comment on if the Mark IV and III sims live in the same realm of praise as your comments on the V and IIC+. I have owned the latter options over the years but deduced I would have preferred the former ones in hindsight. However, the IIC+ and V come from the newer package release and seemingly updated technology while the IV and III are older and not as updated.
@@Tiger1016. I don't really use the III, but the IV is really good too - they're all similar but just have different voicings (as with the real amps). IIC+ & V are definitely the best two though.
As I mentioned one frustration with the newer models is they seem a little low on the gain, you have to turn up the input gain in Amplitube by about 6 to 10db in order to get the taper of the gain knob correct to the real amps. The IV doesn't have that.
@Bruno Filipe Nice - ooh, when did they upgrade the Recto?
Finally! Amplitude 5 is awesome. Thanks!
I have an AxeFx III Turbo...FM3....a Mesa Mark IV.....Friedman WW20....Strymon pedals..."quality" reactive load boxes, etc. and before all this owned a TON of amps from Lazy Js to Tone Kings, Fargens, Splawns...to me, I can make all of it sound great and sound aweful. I'm having a lot of fun with Ampltube 5 Max. Using the AxeIO and a pair of Adam A7X. In a mix (and frankly, even isolated), I don't think my most high end is ORDERS of magnitude better. For the price (and perhaps regardless), I'm considering selling off a bunch of stuff for my home use needs.....
Perfect tone in the Mark II, i have the same but sounds too bad. The Amplitube version is free and i can't put IR, but works in the same way if turn off the cabinet and load IR with Nadir? Please share the tips.
You could plug into the shelf behind you and make it sound awesome, of course it would have to go through a YA impulse too.
Were the heavier tones double tracked? Copy or by playing twice?
Great compositions! What are you using for drums?
What about the IRs that come along with software?? Are they any good??
My only problem with Amplitube is its so slow to load. Same with Helix Native. And Bias Amp. It's one of the main reasons I haven't gone away from TH-U and various single Amp VSTs.
get a macbook m2 pro
I use a Windows 10 i9- 32GB machine and I do an initial load within about 5 seconds. Real time with zero latency from there.
I really like the effects and racks in the software. The amps are ok... I have better amp sims for what I like. But I don't like the cab section. I always use external IRs with this software. You got some really nice tones here.
Thank you very much for this interesting video! I use Amplitube as plug-in in Cubase but I don’t know how make Amplitube to receive program change message from Cubase. Can you help me? Many thanks
Looking into Amplitube and other softwares. I always used amps, but looking to get into home recording. what is a good, effective laptop for home recording? don’t want to break the bank. is the apple mac air good? or a windows laptop? thanks for the help!
Sounds super awesome, great playing as usual. What kind of audio interface do you use? They sound so clean and crisp. I suppose you use some type of power conditioner as well to get rid of hum from mains? It shows you don’t need $3k modelling set up to get pro results.
Made em sound good. What I find lacking, in most if not all plug-ins, is the upper sizzle. When it is there, it's not pleasant, like a semi covered in broken glass going into the back of my head. That being said, they are leaps and bounds better than they used to be.
What I would like to see, are amps that aren't based on a real model. Then a real amp company tries to copy that. That day will come.
Check Aurora DSP Rhino. It’s not based on any particular amp. Really unique UI, allows you to mix diff flavored preamps and drives.
I agree, Tobin. For me sims are getting mighty close but its always the high end that sounds off to me.
@@devingrubbs Will do and thanks for pointing it out
I'm not exactly a metalhead but the Mesa Boogie sounds phenomenal. This is the first time I've seen a review using the Impulse Response. I was not aware that this feature exists. What exactly is it used for and how do you access it / load it? Thanks.
Hey! I bought that ESP Phoenix too.
Good player. Great ear for tone!
The guitar tones being what they are, the drums in bass guitar sound amazing.
(What are you using to get those tones?)
Did you double all of your guitar tracks?
Always great tones not matter what gear you use.
How good is the latency compared to a real amp? How much CPU does it take?
Nice how do get that stereo sound on the guitars
Man I'm loving the tones and your playing! Why am I dragging my feet on the cost? $175 US after using my IK points. Has anyone done the math of what it would cost to buy all this in real life hardware?
Ok. I pulled the trigger on the full version. $162 out the door after finding a great discount code. No regrets, the possibilities are endless. It's changed the way I play guitar, now I'm chasing tones vs playing. LOL
These tones sounds great! Are they very close to the actual amps?
How come your Mixed- master and Guitar tone Sounds Batter then most of the band now days. Kudos !!!!
The dry humor is great
I usually appreciate it, classic!
How do you get the wide stereo ?
what audio interface you use ?
good video my friend!
Amplitube 5 user here....question: Is there any way to jam Amplitube 5 out of a guitar speaker instead of my monitors? Can some kind of hardware like a power amp be used in between the interface-out and the cabinet-speaker?? As comments on this video allude to: I'm looking for a more satisfying way to approach playing with "plug-ins". I got amplitube 5 since I had to sell my gear before closing on a home...
I guess you could send the signal from your soundcard to a power-amp. Don't see why that wouldn't work. You might get some latency though.
@@SonicDriveStudio Sure, latency is to be expected, naturally.
I use Amplitube 5 with my amp combo. Guitar-> Audio Interface-> FX Return of my amp. Cab sim turned off in Amplitube. Sounds amazing. No latency
Yes, easy. They make power amps in stomp pedal form factor. Just go out from interface to power amp in and out with speaker cable to your cab. I've been doing this for years, it's a great solution. All my amps and pedals were sold off long ago. Just remember to disable the cabinet in the sim.
If you want to be able to benefit from the cabinet section in Amplitube, you want an FRFR speaker, like what you would connect to a modeler like the AxeFX or Kemper. Like other people have suggested though, you can also disable the cabinet section and go directly into a power amp/cabinet combination, like plugging into the FX return of a regular amp or by using a dedicated power amp like a Seymour Duncan PowerStage.
Is there any way to get these presets?
It sounds pretty good but I think I like Overloud's TH-U a bit better.
How can you load IR into amplitude 5? or do they come already in a version of Amplitube?
He loaded his own but the built in cabs are done with IR's this time. 600/2400 positions per speaker/cab that you can move the virtual mics around. You need to buy the base paid version (not just an amp pack) to get the functionality though which is annoying.
@@JN-qj9gf Thanks! I am looking in getting full version of Amplitube 5. I was reading that now you can upload IRs, but wasn’t sure. Since Jon is using, what can be, purchased IRs (forgot the name of the ones he is using) therefore my question. I’m lazy to start building my own 🤣
York Audio IR. sonI believe he uploaded it?
amplitube 3 and 4 were not impressive. But to me version 5 is a real game changer. of course, not every model is good but I really enjoy most of theme (mesa, orange, fender...) . Try it before saying anything.
Yeah it's a good piece of software! Perfect? No, but still great!
4 was definitely hamstrung by not having an IR loader, though you could always work around it by disabling the cabinet section and using a standalone IR loader in your plugin chain. Still, annoying to have to do that, and not as efficient. That said, there were some great sounds to be had in 4, I really liked the Vintage Metal Lead tone (basically a Marshall JMP100) in particular.
what do you use for monitoring?
A77X with Sonarworks usually. Also really dig my Slate VSX
Hi, is it possible to use real pedals with AmpliTube?
Yes... you mean before the physical audio interface? Guitar -> pedal -> usb interface -> software (Amplitube, etc)
How do you get these custom IRs?
Buy them at yorkaudio.co
I wish they would start making modeling amps like positive grid. As great as the software is there's always latency no matter what I set the buffer to.
Did you use Headphones or studio monitor, I use a cheap headphone and it sounds like shit!!!!
,not bad but sounds a little bit the same all the amps ,the only effect i like from amplitube is their trichorus reall great. for amps i prefer more the overloud riglibrary its a little bit more thea real amp. but nothin replace an real amp.
Sounds better than Amplitube 4, but it's still leaps behind other plugins.
What other plugins (make/model) would you condisider "world class/professional studio" ready? Interested in all amp types, not just high gain...
@@vinnyguerriero5150 well I'm nowhere near a professional or world class guitar player but the best plugins I've tried are Neural DSP's Fortin Cali, Nameless, Gojira and Nolly), Mercuriall (Reaxis, Spark), Nembrini (Cali Dual, 8180), and I'm interested in giving the II II II II by Otto Audio a try next.
@@Saurion1 Thanks. I tend to think of Neural DSP as geared toward metal players. I might be wrong. I find it easy to get high gain tones that are good/great from different platforms. It’s the vintage/cleans with dynamics to be harder. That said, I am pleased with AmpliTube 5 on that front.
@@vinnyguerriero5150 some NDSP plugins are not for metal, like the Cory Wong or the Tone King, and some are extremely versatile, like the Tim Henson and the Petrucci ones. Mercuriall Spark emulates 4 different classic Marshall amps, so you got plenty of variety there. Nembrini also has old school Marshall and Fender amp sims. Nevertheless, I play mostly metal so that's what I'm more familiar with.
@@Saurion1 Thanks for your replies. After visiting both websites, indeed, I do see some classic tones offered. Will give a try!
si para que suene bien hay que doblar las guitarras es porque es una verga