It kind of shows why the Miranda is such a great design in that this ship is missing something without having that step on the rear half of the saucer..
Disco-verse started with some decent, if out-of-place, ship designs. Then it went not quite a thousand years into the future and crapped the bed with some really DUMB looking ships. *brought to you by the shot of the Discovery A in the opening of the video
The thickness and shape of the pilons, as well as the absolute unit-ness of the nacelles, makes this class kinda seem like its a body builder lifting two heavy nacelles or something like that
This ship helps me realize I actually dig the Disco ship aesthetic! (minus the bronze-y color they did on Discovery herself in the early days, for whatever reason)
I think these sorts of videos would be helped with a real time look at the model using the in-game STO ship viewer in the store (you can look at all of the non-gambling ships). I've noted over the years times when you wished you had a better angle on pictures you made earlier/were provided to you by another source because you noticed a detail during recording of the episode.
The DIsco starships never felt right to me.. say what you want about Axanar Productions.. but they totally nailed what the Pre-TOS ships SHOULD have looked like.
Like a Miranda class but sleeker. Looks nicer without the torpedo bay on top of the saucer with them struts with the phaser cannons on each side. Impulse deck, main and aux engineering on one deck also makes better sense. Putting the shuttle bay in the saucer section will provide a huge floorspace to park plenty of vehicles like on the Enterprise D which one could call a light carrier instead of a heavy cruiser.
I think those are closed armoured shutters on the hangar control room windows since they are a bit darker than the hull. In essence the ship is i cruise mode ...ready for a surprise attack by someone who does not like Starfleet going into the area that they decided is their proprety.
Is the title music intro really discordant and tinny and distorted to anyone else ? It sounds a bit well broken like the sound has been stripped of its base and stretched.
I like some of the discovery ships, but they are very brutalist. I would understand if they were built in canon DURING the war and they would have to bust out ships fast, but they don't seem as thought out as the rest of the ships in older productions. I guess im saying it would make more sense if they were a response to the Klingon war as opposed to before it.... unless, of course, the in-universe designer was Andorian. Then it makes sense. Love the Buran, though. Edit: and the Vulcan ships are cool too.
There's a basic code with Fed ships: nacelles up = true explorer, nacelles down = fighting ship (even if innocuously named). I like _this_ ship better nacelles down. Want to see an "explorer" variant on the Reliant motif? Check out "Chasing the Infinite Sky" fan film by @/ALVISION100
7 years and 5 seasons. Get used to that format, folks. They did it to Lower Decks, the Lizard People are Parasite+ did it to Discovery, they're GOING to do it again with Academy and Strange New Worlds. This is the new format, ya'll. If it isn't new and shiny by the time a kindergartener goes to middle school, then its cancelled.
I really like this design -- but it also perfectly illustrates everything wrong with Disco aesthetic. This vessel (being designed _long after_ the Anton/Miranda/Reliant classes) looks sleeker and more "modern" in the 2250's than the refitted versions will in the 2280's & 90's! _Because_ of production order, and the lack of care/respect the Disco designers had for the "period" design paradigms, this ship TAKES FROM those movie designs rather than LEADS TO them. As with all of the "long sleek and vaguely hexagonal cross-section" designs, I could see them as emerging in the 2290's and being in wide use at the turn of the century, 2300. Beginning Lost Period, in other words. If they'd done that to begin with, they wouldn't have needed the ridiculous time-skip to the 32nd Century.
it looks like a toilet seat cover. but it looks ok, bit to advanced for tos era ships. but i do lie the elongated bridge module on top, it gives it bit of a cruse ship look and feel.
i am not a fan of the design i frankly forgot it was a thing i did used it in sto a while back also it would be nice to see season 1 disco ships in strange new world wich would be strange if the federation decided to scrap them all
I honestly really dislike the DISCO aesthetic for their starships, with the sole exception being the Constitution. They generally look like they took something that belongs in the 25th or 26th centuries, then "dumbed it down" by removing windows and light-up parts to make them look more slab-like and primitive. They don't fit with the ENT aesthetic any more than they do with the TOS look. They are just a bizarre anachronism that gives zero sense of continuity in either direction. This particular ship is only a partial exception in that it looks enough like a TOS Miranda to get the point across, but those nacelles and the lack of viewports keeps it firmly in the "wtf am I even looking at?" category. DISCO ships typically look like they belong in the post-STO time period, where literal decades of "and then it got worse" have lead to more aggressively angled ships with heavier armor covering both viewports and most of the nacelles. It just boggles my mind that ENT went to all this effort to show that they were just a hop, skip and a jump away from the TOS aesthetic, only for them to pull this random nonsense out of nowhere, while trying to claim that this is somehow an intermediate step between the two.
It kind of shows why the Miranda is such a great design in that this ship is missing something without having that step on the rear half of the saucer..
lol...Saturn class is more fantastic.
@@1garysan And cup holders.
In STO using the TOS nacelles and centaur pylons you can make the Starfleet Battles Anton class.
Ah, the Mike Wazowski class!
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Disco-verse started with some decent, if out-of-place, ship designs. Then it went not quite a thousand years into the future and crapped the bed with some really DUMB looking ships.
*brought to you by the shot of the Discovery A in the opening of the video
I love the Disco ships from season 1. Damn shame we got to some of them for mere SECONDS.
The thickness and shape of the pilons, as well as the absolute unit-ness of the nacelles, makes this class kinda seem like its a body builder lifting two heavy nacelles or something like that
Cool ship, the bottom gives me serious NX vibes.
I really like this "proto-Jeffries era Eaves style" ship
The nacelle struts have a Danube class runabout vibe, looking comparable to what holds the mission module pod on the top.
The Yorktown class from the Star Trek Legacy game, please.
This ship helps me realize I actually dig the Disco ship aesthetic! (minus the bronze-y color they did on Discovery herself in the early days, for whatever reason)
I think these sorts of videos would be helped with a real time look at the model using the in-game STO ship viewer in the store (you can look at all of the non-gambling ships).
I've noted over the years times when you wished you had a better angle on pictures you made earlier/were provided to you by another source because you noticed a detail during recording of the episode.
This and the Magee class are my favourites from DSC
The DIsco starships never felt right to me.. say what you want about Axanar Productions.. but they totally nailed what the Pre-TOS ships SHOULD have looked like.
First eaglemoss ship I bought. Really like the basic rudimentary design. Also love it as a starter ship in STO
I just used the saucer and cells from this in STO to make a disco Miranda thing about a week ago
I love this ship. But is it me or the front view reminds me of the Bird of Prey but Federation version
I like to think that this gets heavily rebuilt and becomes the Miranda class.
For a time during high tensions
Like a Miranda class but sleeker. Looks nicer without the torpedo bay on top of the saucer with them struts with the phaser cannons on each side. Impulse deck, main and aux engineering on one deck also makes better sense. Putting the shuttle bay in the saucer section will provide a huge floorspace to park plenty of vehicles like on the Enterprise D which one could call a light carrier instead of a heavy cruiser.
This resembles frigates from the StarFleet Command games.
I think those are closed armoured shutters on the hangar control room windows since they are a bit darker than the hull. In essence the ship is i cruise mode ...ready for a surprise attack by someone who does not like Starfleet going into the area that they decided is their proprety.
Is the title music intro really discordant and tinny and distorted to anyone else ?
It sounds a bit well broken like the sound has been stripped of its base and stretched.
the only thing that kurtsman trek did right was some of its ship's designs...
Looks like a Starship Trooper ship.
Just a pretty ship ❤
I like some of the discovery ships, but they are very brutalist. I would understand if they were built in canon DURING the war and they would have to bust out ships fast, but they don't seem as thought out as the rest of the ships in older productions. I guess im saying it would make more sense if they were a response to the Klingon war as opposed to before it.... unless, of course, the in-universe designer was Andorian. Then it makes sense. Love the Buran, though.
Edit: and the Vulcan ships are cool too.
Got new starship
Having the shuttle bay door open on the Discovery fly by still makes me laugh.
If you turn the ship upside-down, it looks better, in my opinion
There's a basic code with Fed ships: nacelles up = true explorer, nacelles down = fighting ship (even if innocuously named). I like _this_ ship better nacelles down. Want to see an "explorer" variant on the Reliant motif? Check out "Chasing the Infinite Sky" fan film by @/ALVISION100
7 years and 5 seasons. Get used to that format, folks. They did it to Lower Decks, the Lizard People are Parasite+ did it to Discovery, they're GOING to do it again with Academy and Strange New Worlds. This is the new format, ya'll. If it isn't new and shiny by the time a kindergartener goes to middle school, then its cancelled.
Say what you want for Discovery as a show, but man they came out with some classy and classic starships.
Seems to me, this ship should be flipped upside down.
I really like this design -- but it also perfectly illustrates everything wrong with Disco aesthetic. This vessel (being designed _long after_ the Anton/Miranda/Reliant classes) looks sleeker and more "modern" in the 2250's than the refitted versions will in the 2280's & 90's! _Because_ of production order, and the lack of care/respect the Disco designers had for the "period" design paradigms, this ship TAKES FROM those movie designs rather than LEADS TO them. As with all of the "long sleek and vaguely hexagonal cross-section" designs, I could see them as emerging in the 2290's and being in wide use at the turn of the century, 2300. Beginning Lost Period, in other words. If they'd done that to begin with, they wouldn't have needed the ridiculous time-skip to the 32nd Century.
Let us just forget about Disco Trek!
There shuttle bay door is closed
Would this benefit from an engineering section?
I think so, many ship teammates or crew members including science and engineering sections, as well as research room in the ship.
I think it looks like an refitted romulan bird of prey from the original series
Or since it takes place before the 2260s the Romulans might've taken the design and made it their own.
it looks like a toilet seat cover. but it looks ok, bit to advanced for tos era ships. but i do lie the elongated bridge module on top, it gives it bit of a cruse ship look and feel.
i am not a fan of the design i frankly forgot it was a thing i did used it in sto a while back also it would be nice to see season 1 disco ships in strange new world wich would be strange if the federation decided to scrap them all
I honestly really dislike the DISCO aesthetic for their starships, with the sole exception being the Constitution. They generally look like they took something that belongs in the 25th or 26th centuries, then "dumbed it down" by removing windows and light-up parts to make them look more slab-like and primitive. They don't fit with the ENT aesthetic any more than they do with the TOS look. They are just a bizarre anachronism that gives zero sense of continuity in either direction. This particular ship is only a partial exception in that it looks enough like a TOS Miranda to get the point across, but those nacelles and the lack of viewports keeps it firmly in the "wtf am I even looking at?" category.
DISCO ships typically look like they belong in the post-STO time period, where literal decades of "and then it got worse" have lead to more aggressively angled ships with heavier armor covering both viewports and most of the nacelles. It just boggles my mind that ENT went to all this effort to show that they were just a hop, skip and a jump away from the TOS aesthetic, only for them to pull this random nonsense out of nowhere, while trying to claim that this is somehow an intermediate step between the two.
I don't consider discovery as canon, It's a woke parody.
what a stupid ship