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Radix DLT with their Cerberus consensus algorithm is the only legitimate scaling solution for DeFi that I've seen. I think it will become clear by the end of this year that Ethereum, Solidity, Layer 2 solutions, just aren't capable enough.
You should do a video on blockchain consensus mechanisms and could go into deeper detail of mining, PoS, and other “newer” ways like proof of space and time
Amazing video... Based Rollups are indeed a game-changer, offering a seamless way to leverage Ethereum's robust sequencer for transaction ordering. It's interesting to compare this with "Taiko's" work on BBR and BCR, which also aim to enhance Ethereum's scalability and efficiency. The collaboration between these technologies could significantly strengthen the Ethereum network, making it more cohesive and powerful.
As for optimistic rollup, If the challenge can't get any benefit for a long time, then the challenger will no longer protect the system, then the system will be very vulnerable
true, but it literally only takes 1 actor to check. So, theoretically institutions or individuals making significant transactions on on the network will have the incentive to check the rollup that there transaction is in for the security of their funds but at the same time verifying all the other transactions in that roll up as well. I mean imagine you converted ETH to 1,000,000 USDC. Wouldn't you at least run a verification of the block that transaction was in to make sure you weren't scammed?
Thank you for the video! Please, explain to me why the party that submitted fraudulent transaction to level 1 is punished if it do not verify the correctness of the transaction?
Sometimes Protecting your capital is much more important than making money. Basically because if you lose your capital, making money is much harder. ''Missing the train'' vs. ''losing your money''. There are a lot of trains, but if your money is gone, it's over.
Can you explain rollup for me a bit more plz? I’m kinda confused. If you make 1000 txns on the roll-up chain and settle that 1000 txns on the ETH chain, how are you avoiding paying gas fees for the 1000 txns being settle eventually on the ETH chain? If there will actually be only 1 txn being made on the ETH chain for that 1000 txns made on the rollup chain, how does security exactly work for each transaction on the ETH chain? How are the 1000 txns exactly confirmed and secured at the transaction level per ETH addresses? Are there 1000 ETH addresses involved?..
Both solutions will help Ethereum scale, but while ZK-rollups take the execution off-chain and can 100x the transaction processing capacity of the Ethereum network, we still have issues with data storage and availability. Sharding will expand the data layer, but only when combined with data availability sampling will the network be able to fully utilize the rollup capability.
The ultimately fatal flaw with optimistic rollups is the fraudulent transaction only has to outweigh the bond penalty. This approach can therefore never be used reliably in high value systems. I love the idea but I am forced to stay with zk rollups because of this fatal flaw.
The liquidity issue will probably not be a big deal with arbitrageurs correcting inefficient prices. Only if somebody wants to do a large transaction all at once, rather than in small chunks over time. But small chunks would be much more feasible with the lower gas fees in rollups etc.
Finematics - can you comment on the security of the Arbitrum and Optimism bridges? Are they secured by Keys held by someone? Multisig? Thanks again, you are the best I know of explaining Crypto. Excellent video as always
Thanks for the analysis! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How can I transfer them to Binance?
I do not see significant difference between the rollups/L2 and Polygon/sidecehains? the rollups have a chain where they do EVM on? how is this different from the polygon sidechain? Is nothing stored on the rollup chain? If so, where are the contracts and such?? How are the EVMs of rollups, different from a sidechain of polygon? The rollups have a bridge from ETH, to the rollup. How is this bridge different from the polygon bridge? How is the bridge secured? How are the rollups placed on the ETH chain, different from the checkpoints placed by Polygon on the ETH chain? Thanks for help
The main difference is that if something goes wrong users can still withdraw their funds from rollups - even if their whole EVM-compatible chain stop working. This is not the case with sidechains.
Also why won't the validator collude with the entity producing the transaction if the oint of transaction is greater than the bond they have to put up to validate a transaction
Further is a situation where you have thousands of transactions a day, who is going to pick out the ones that are fraudulent, plenty will slip through the cracks
Sharding is no longer on the Ethereum 2.0 roadmap because of how good zkRollups and zkEVMs are now. Great video nevertheless, considering this was posted more than a year ago when it was on their roadmap.
Great analysis, thank you! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (air carpet target dish off jeans toilet sweet piano spoil fruit essay). How should I go about transferring them to Binance?
Hey Finematics, can you please do an actual brief and simple explanation on the Balancer protocol? I think people would be really interested in hearing about it.
Excellent video that perfectly explains how Rollups work. I think Polygon with its implementation of zkEVM can give a big boost to the whole industry. Personally, I am waiting for mainnet launch in order to evaluate whether zk-rollups can be successful.
Appreciate the detailed breakdown! 🧐 I wanted to ask something unrelated: 🤔 I found these words 😅. (behave today finger ski upon boy assault summer exhaust beauty stereo over). Not sure how to use them, would appreciate help. 🙏
Yeah, you can call it a Layer 2 solution. The major categories of L2 solutions are: state channels, side chains1, plasma, optimistic rollups, zk-rollups, and validium. Layer 2 is a broad field in which many teams are researching and building different scaling solutions that are sometimes competitive and sometimes complementary.
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Radix DLT with their Cerberus consensus algorithm is the only legitimate scaling solution for DeFi that I've seen. I think it will become clear by the end of this year that Ethereum, Solidity, Layer 2 solutions, just aren't capable enough.
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One of the only channels I don't try 1.5x or 2x on. Great dense content, no fluff.
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U took the words out of my mouth lolol
You made me realize it's the only channel I don't watch at 1.5x speed too. He is not even speaking that fast, it's the perfect pace.
I do sometimes, but on my third or 4th watch ;)
Haha agree. It's hard to really understand anything otherwise. The information is so condensed that you can't miss a single second.
I am half way through and this is the best video on rollups I have come across. Thanks a lot!
Going to be an interesting fall & winter with all this rolling out.
For sure! :)
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You should do a video on blockchain consensus mechanisms and could go into deeper detail of mining, PoS, and other “newer” ways like proof of space and time
Great suggestion!
@@Finematics agree. Also PoS versions like LPoS, DPoS, ORV... and their impact on energy usage, speed and centralization
think so too...if w this video here u intend to address beginners, a short intro to basics at 1st might be advantageous for comprehension.
That was hell of an explanation! Great work. Really appreciate it.
Forever one of the greatest channels ever. I’ll always recommend.
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This video motivated me to invest in my first cryptocurrency!
Love it, perfect timing as always!
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Best channel. Literally. You’re so good, gifted with the ability to teach (and artwork!)
Informative and Good visuals. A little fast for me at this point of my journey, so had to keep rewinding, but I took notes. Thanks big dawg.
You are doing an incredible work with your videos, thanks 🙏
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Amazing explanation. I couldn’t find a video like this anywhere. Well done. ETH eco just needs some incentives for users to try these layer 2s now.
Ok so how do i make money off this, like, can i buy shares in 'offchain Lab' (arbitrum)? how do i materialise this knowledge
@@tmac917 do some research and invest in the ecosystems.
@@drewdurant3835 asking questions is research. But no1 seems to have the answers.
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A very good explanation and well worth the read. Thank you!
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Amazing video...
Based Rollups are indeed a game-changer, offering a seamless way to leverage Ethereum's robust sequencer for transaction ordering.
It's interesting to compare this with "Taiko's" work on BBR and BCR, which also aim to enhance Ethereum's scalability and efficiency.
The collaboration between these technologies could significantly strengthen the Ethereum network, making it more cohesive and powerful.
Shoutout to the ETH holders
Very good and understandable presentation
Thank you! Your explanation is easily clear and understanding. Of course, I will read and investigate more to understand deeply.
Excellent video
Great channel dude! thank you so much
Amazing video. Would be interesting to see how this tech has evolved in the one year since it was published.
I’m very optimistic about Arbitrum
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Amazing work, thank you.
ZK Rollups are incredible!! Thanks for the video, makes it so much easier to explain to family and friends
thsi guy is a genius
As for optimistic rollup, If the challenge can't get any benefit for a long time, then the challenger will no longer protect the system, then the system will be very vulnerable
true, but it literally only takes 1 actor to check. So, theoretically institutions or individuals making significant transactions on on the network will have the incentive to check the rollup that there transaction is in for the security of their funds but at the same time verifying all the other transactions in that roll up as well. I mean imagine you converted ETH to 1,000,000 USDC. Wouldn't you at least run a verification of the block that transaction was in to make sure you weren't scammed?
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awesome video! very clear for noobs to understand
great to hear! :)
Great video as always!
Thanks again!
Thank you for the video! Please, explain to me why the party that submitted fraudulent transaction to level 1 is punished if it do not verify the correctness of the transaction?
thanks for the great content!
Amazing channel! Thank you for the valuable content.
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Thank you for making these videos
you're welcome! :)
you are the best! thank you for the video
thank you! :)
Insane video! Thx my man!
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great video mate. thank you
epic video. very interesting that sidechains will be cheaper than rollups because rollups need a lot of space on L1
Polygon has absorbed Hermez Network and will be offering ZK Rollups as another part of their Ethereum scaling suite.
Love your videos
This video was a lot quicker (and easier!) to understand compared to Vitalik's long explanation on Lex Friedman's podcast a while back
He explained the core of how it works way better
Your videos are amazing 👏
thanks!
Fantastic stuff! But you forgot to mention Mute working on ZK-rollups.
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amazing content
just found an article yesterday about "proof of humanity", would like to know more about different/Newer consensus protocols. Always great content!
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Sometimes Protecting your capital is much more important than making money. Basically because if you lose your capital, making money is much harder. ''Missing the train'' vs. ''losing your money''. There are a lot of trains, but if your money is gone, it's over.
These videos are awesome.
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SKALE network for the winner of this cycle thumbs up
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Could you make a video on Polygon Hernez zk rollups?
Thanks
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Thanks! 🔥
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Awesome! How does Polygon (MATIC) fit into this?
Thank u for this explanation
I don't know which one will win but exited to see Eth to be scalling more than 100000 trx persecond hope many new dapp and other use case pop up...
Can you explain rollup for me a bit more plz? I’m kinda confused. If you make 1000 txns on the roll-up chain and settle that 1000 txns on the ETH chain, how are you avoiding paying gas fees for the 1000 txns being settle eventually on the ETH chain?
If there will actually be only 1 txn being made on the ETH chain for that 1000 txns made on the rollup chain, how does security exactly work for each transaction on the ETH chain? How are the 1000 txns exactly confirmed and secured at the transaction level per ETH addresses? Are there 1000 ETH addresses involved?..
the animation of the hand to me is just distracting... but good video of explaining this concept. thank you!
Thanks for video! Sequencer arbitrum, how it works?
HBT is the future of rollup tech for the DAO world
Good stuff!
This is hardcore stuff... lol. Excellent info and presentation btw.
Method four: use another less congested chain. The same EVM code will run on other compatible chains.
that wouldn't be secured by the Ethereum consensus, but it's basically the same as sidechains
😩Why you don’t make videos more often. 😭
You are one of the best crypto channel in the world.
thanks! full time job is taking most of my time, but I'll try to create more content from September :)
Will roll-ups be more or less useful with ETH 2.0 and sharding?
Both solutions will help Ethereum scale, but while ZK-rollups take the execution off-chain and can 100x the transaction processing capacity of the Ethereum network, we still have issues with data storage and availability. Sharding will expand the data layer, but only when combined with data availability sampling will the network be able to fully utilize the rollup capability.
I'm staking SNX on Optimism since April. Very smooth. Limited liquidity on Uniswap so far. Can't wait to see more apps go live.
The ultimately fatal flaw with optimistic rollups is the fraudulent transaction only has to outweigh the bond penalty. This approach can therefore never be used reliably in high value systems. I love the idea but I am forced to stay with zk rollups because of this fatal flaw.
hi albert would you happen to have a link to a source that explains this in more detail?
@@alessandro4512 there’s no source. This is just my own conjecturing
Ok so how do i make money off this, like, can i buy shares in 'offchain Lab' (arbitrum)? how do i materialise this knowledge
But really excellent video!!
Really nice!
thanks!
The liquidity issue will probably not be a big deal with arbitrageurs correcting inefficient prices. Only if somebody wants to do a large transaction all at once, rather than in small chunks over time. But small chunks would be much more feasible with the lower gas fees in rollups etc.
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Hello. Could you please make a video about tokenized stocks?
Wow wow amazing.
Finematics - can you comment on the security of the Arbitrum and Optimism bridges? Are they secured by Keys held by someone? Multisig? Thanks again, you are the best I know of explaining Crypto. Excellent video as always
I think they'll be initially secured by multisigs with a plan to fully decentralize later, but let's wait when they fully launch to see that.
Thanks for the analysis! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How can I transfer them to Binance?
why no mention of polygon?
EXCELLENT! I'm curious are there people / companies acting as checkers for these transactions and if so, how are they compensated?
Thanks a lot!!!
I do not see significant difference between the rollups/L2 and Polygon/sidecehains?
the rollups have a chain where they do EVM on? how is this different from the polygon sidechain? Is nothing stored on the rollup chain? If so, where are the contracts and such?? How are the EVMs of rollups, different from a sidechain of polygon?
The rollups have a bridge from ETH, to the rollup. How is this bridge different from the polygon bridge? How is the bridge secured?
How are the rollups placed on the ETH chain, different from the checkpoints placed by Polygon on the ETH chain?
Thanks for help
Very very good questions. I cannot answer
The main difference is that if something goes wrong users can still withdraw their funds from rollups - even if their whole EVM-compatible chain stop working. This is not the case with sidechains.
@@Finematics thanks so much
Also why won't the validator collude with the entity producing the transaction if the oint of transaction is greater than the bond they have to put up to validate a transaction
Further is a situation where you have thousands of transactions a day, who is going to pick out the ones that are fraudulent, plenty will slip through the cracks
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thanks!
Sharding is no longer on the Ethereum 2.0 roadmap because of how good zkRollups and zkEVMs are now. Great video nevertheless, considering this was posted more than a year ago when it was on their roadmap.
Great analysis, thank you! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (air carpet target dish off jeans toilet sweet piano spoil fruit essay). How should I go about transferring them to Binance?
Zk rollup my favorite
How can we get involved with l2’s
Zk roll ups specifically
Hey Finematics, can you please do an actual brief and simple explanation on the Balancer protocol? I think people would be really interested in hearing about it.
Can you do an updated version of this video??
Yes, a video about the current state of L2s is in the pipeline!
Ok so how do i make money off this, like, can i buy shares in 'offchain Lab' (arbitrum)? how do i materialise this knowledge
Excellent video that perfectly explains how Rollups work.
I think Polygon with its implementation of zkEVM can give a big boost to the whole industry. Personally, I am waiting for mainnet launch in order to evaluate whether zk-rollups can be successful.
Appreciate the detailed breakdown! 🧐 I wanted to ask something unrelated: 🤔 I found these words 😅. (behave today finger ski upon boy assault summer exhaust beauty stereo over). Not sure how to use them, would appreciate help. 🙏
I mean would I be correct to call rollup scaling solution a blockchain Layer 2 solution?...
Yeah, you can call it a Layer 2 solution. The major categories of L2 solutions are: state channels, side chains1, plasma, optimistic rollups, zk-rollups, and validium. Layer 2 is a broad field in which many teams are researching and building different scaling solutions that are sometimes competitive and sometimes complementary.
How do rollups compress multiple transactions into a smaller size? Or did I misunderstand how they work?