Well said. Same here. Def left a bad taste.... and I’m a big XTB fan. Then ya see the issues with Locke. Which is too bad bc he looked nice. Worked bout their springer (which I’m in on)
So glad I'm want with DX-9, I DEFINITELY would have lost my mind trying to transform the TXB trailer. By the way Bobby, their is adapter you can get for wild rider. Works perfectly.
One of the best comparison vids I’ve seen. Way to go. I already committed to XTB because of how much I liked the scale of the 4 limb bots with the MP autobot cars. But I’m dreading the transformation of menasor. As a stand-alone it seems the Dx9 has better playability owing to more stable posing, and the threshold to combine and un-combine is lower.
Great video as usual Bobby. I have the xtb so maybe there is some personal bias, but I would have scored it 5-4 xtb. Switching sculpt and scale. For sculpt I think it looks better with more surface detail, yet matches the toon better. For scale if matched with zeta superion it's a half inch shorter, which I think menasor should be, but about even at the top of the antenna. Would have liked to see dx9 next to zeta if it's taller that definitely wouldn't work for me. P.S. loved the grimlock video you deserve it.
Based solely on this video, I have chosen ... poorly. I chose the XTB based on the pro's mentioned in the video AND I preferred the scale of the bots and cars over the larger DX9 Stunticons. That was the one thing that kept me from going with DX9; the size of the bots and alt modes. It's a shame that, for me, XTB seemed to be "the one" for the win in my book, only to see them fumble in the end. I won't lie, it hurts. At least I can enjoy them individually.
The bot modes still look great dude. I'm still happier knowing the dx9 car bots are scaled to the Takara car bots. It's the right scale in my eyes. The trailer is a shame though.
Thank you for the comparison. I think it was a fair opinion. I'm in on XTB, I don't like the look of DX9 at all. I'm also not sold on the FT and DX9 sizing but I know that's all matter of opinion.... I'm gonna set it and forget it.
This presentation made me subscribe today. Honestly, I didn’t earlier, in fact, I steer towards Emgo because his geekiness is appealing to me, and when it comes to reviews, I have a better success rate. But you are one up on the ratings now. I love how you included your girls in the voting process, while emgo complains about his cat hairs. Kids over cats any day of the week, but once someone gets their dogs involved… what can I say; I LOVES THE PUPPIES. Thank you. I almost whipped out a card to secure a monolith for me, but Atilla is going to represent my collection’s Menasor.
I have DX9's. When I first saw what Menasor looked like and how tall he was in comparison to Xtransbots, I knew that was the version I was going with. Wasn't even going to waste my time or money chasing Fanstoys
Just wanted to let you know Bobby that me being a scrub in this TF collecting game, your channel has been the go-to channel for making informed Transformers purchase decisions. Not just because of your reviews (which are dope), but combined with all of your other content that you make, like these comparison videos, the builder series, the dummies discussions, the sit downs, the collection critiques, etc. have helped me tremendously in terms of being informed in this TF collecting game. So wanted to say thank you for all the hard work, honesty, and most importantly, the passion you put into the content you make. It really shines through. You a real one man. Sorry the long post but after seeing the awesome community Dinobot video, I just wanted to give this man his flowers from one of the newer fans that he has helped in this community. 👍
between this comparison and your review of each you helped save me some money. I like the look of this one better because of the look of the arms compared to Atilla particularly at the elbows, and the proportion of the thighs to the rest of the legs. Height is also an issue with my Zeta and TW combiners. I'll probably have to hold out for someone else. Thanks for another set of great reviews and comparison.
All that stuff coming apart while posing and the trailer detail showing is why I don't want fanstoys to transform. I cycle my figures out so I put them back in the box when not using them, I'm going to hate having to transform the fanstoys when it gets put away.
I think I’d be happy with either of these. I’ve gone with FT, so we’ll see how that turns out. After all this though, I think I’d prefer a combined only action figure than having all the parts-forming. I like how they do combine, the principle of it, but I’m just not sure it’s worth the compromises when so much of the figure is parts-formed, and the body bots just end up being plugged in at the back, not even being required.
I went with FT and XTB. FT was a no brainer. Even if the combined mode didn’t work I’d still use them for bot mode. I rolled the dice (and it was a gamble) on XTB for combined mode over DX9 because I wasn’t a fan of DX9 Menasor’s frame aesthetics (namely the visible gears on the elbows and the big lower legs). However, I now regret my decision to go with XTB over DX9. After the price of Dr Egg and now their Menasor’s surprise frame price and build issues, XTB’s reputation has been harmed in my eyes.
Why is the trailer overpriced I expected it from the time I bought my first figure. I can’t understand why people thought this would be in the 100 range. I mean a single figure now is $275 or more like Takara starscream
l went all in on Dx9 because of the size of the combiner, but am now even happier because of how stable he is in comparison to what you've shown with XTB. I custom paint most of my MPs, so the large panels of the Dx9 create more options to work with, especially breaking up the gray on the front shins/legs and chest. My take is it's always easier to enhance color with paint and accents with some gunpla-type etching than it is to re-tool stability, engineering or the anything to do with size. For me, Dx9 Menasor for the WIN (... well, until FT comes through with theirs).
Thanks for all the time and effort for so little return. This is my first post but I always watch all your videos you have been my favourite reviewer for masterpiece transformers bar-none.
As always great video!! Personally I think there so different..it's really hard to compare. Personally I think the overall look goes to the X-transbots. But the overall stability goes to the Dx9.
I've been all in on the Fans Toys set... But, I was tempted to swoop up the Dx-9 figures, just so I could have a completed Menasor on the shelf until Fans Toys' last figure finally arrived... But, I ultimately decided to double up on Fans Toys, so I have 2 of each FT release. Although I'll have to wait I'm glad I made that call. I think when this is all said and done, FT is going to win in Bot, Vehicle, and Combined modes. So fingers crossed this set is everything I think it will be... But now I'm thinking about going 3 deep on FT, so I can have 1 for Bot, and 1 for each combined mode, because the Toon and Studio Ox versions are just so different from each other.
Thanks for the Saturday morning entertainment! Way back in the beginning of the Menasor wars I decided to go with DX9 based on scale first and cost 2nd thinking they would be the middle of the road option for cost...boy how that cost changed! Also, I didn't want to wait for Fanstoys to complete theirs. My guess is that if FTs is stable in combined mode their gonna take 1st. Either way glad we have options for what is my favorite combiner.
XTB's bots not being in scale is *purely* a subjective call, because the Stuntacons aren't definitively one size. For every shot suggesting they are Seeker size (DX9) there is another indicating that they are the same size as an Autobot carbot.
I like elements of all 3 sets and my dilemma is figuring out which set to display in what mode. I like the overall aesthetic of XTB best, but scale is an issue in various forms. I love DX9’s stability and durability, individual bots are more poseable than FT, but combined mode isn’t visually appealing. FT is making some good looking individual bits and has great materials and paint, but the individual bots are the least articulated and the combined mode renders do nothing for me.
Great comparison. I'm glad I caught your thoughts on capone early on and jumped on the dx9 set. I agree on most your thoughts on how xtb shines. But the whole package works for me. #teamdx9
Aw man, you had one DX9 thigh right in the last video, now they're back to being mistransformed. It really does look so much better if you do it properly. (EDIT: And now they're right in the close ups. Huh.) I dunno what the XTB black plastic looks like in person, but in photos and videos, it looks like the cheapest, ugliest, nastiest garbage I can imagine. It looks like the kind of plastic you use for packaging. I was going to get the XTB set when it was first announced, but I bailed when I saw that godawful bandaid plastic they used for breakdown, and I honestly feel like I dodged a bullet. The price, the nightmarish transformations, the unstable combined mode, the awful proportions that make him look like a toddler on steroids, the ugly metallic purple on motormaster, the clip-on wheels on the legs that made them look like pinewood derby cars, I really find nothing redeemable about this set and this combined mode, and feel bad for folks who didn't see that until they were too far in and got got by the price gouging and are now compelled by sunk cost fallacy to try to pretend it wasn't all a huge mistake. The DX9 one isn't perfect, but at least they didn't price gouge me right at the end, and it's stable and looks better next to the zeta bots. Menasor war over as far as I'm concerned.
Not that one would ever pose a combiner with their legs pointing straight back and i’m pretty sure the tensioned joints would behave the same way, AND i’m only mentioning because it’s part of your usual routine when it come to range of motion, but you only tested the range and durability of the legs straight forward. Never straight back.. which you usually do... “for the full monty / run”..
I think that was pretty fair. DX-9's better all around. The only reason I'm sticking with the XTB is because his looks. For me, It just looks better. But I'm not looking forward to that XTB nightmare transformation. 😓 I'm just going to get them in combine mode, put them in an A stance and there they shall stay forever. That was my initial plan... XtB for combine mode and FansToys for individual robots modes. But, that could change if FansToys mange to pull up a better combiner. I don't know... this whole XTB trailer debacle has been one huge let down. Makes me worry about their upcoming Defensor set. Is that one going to be like their Menasor? There's always the MMC one, but that combiner is going to be the size of their Bruticus. Too small. We'll see. Thanks for taking the time to make this comparison video. Great work as always. 👍👍👍
I'm all in for the scale that Zeta set for the Combiners, therefore DX9 will be my Menasor, and since I have just aquired all 5 Dx9 Stunticons, finally, I have them all! I am also getting the XTB Stunticons as my bot mode set.
So glad I went in early with the DX9 for combiner mode (Wish the combiner car legs were able to click into the front). Thanks to your previous comparison review. Fans Toys will stay in their respective bot modes. And I recently picked up XTB “Youth Version” because I like the toy aesthetic and the packaging. Doubt I will buy that trailer. Other than waiting on FansToys & XTB last bots, I’m happy to close this chapter on Menasor. On to Predaking and Defensor.
Great versus. I think the aggravation factor is huge... these are meant to be transformed and posed and combined, after all. If it isn't an enjoyable experience to move them between modes at least occasionally, what's the point of having all that engineering?
Soild comparison thanks man, I get what you mean about the hight, I've got TW constructor and the two zeta combiners all displayed together, you had any thoughts on the Defensor if you plan on getting one?
Thanks man! I needed that!....I just wish the DX-9 made the color choices that XTB made. That dark gray vs the light gray makes a difference. I also like how the XTB lower legs are less boxy. But I own DX-9 Gabriel (OmegaSup) and it is fantastic so I trust them with these bigger bots. ✊🏽
I hate that I can't argue with a single point here. I have the XTB. I am still happy with my choice, albeit I think XTB needs to send out some replacement parts and upgrades FOC. I'm not holding my breath. I'm messing around in CAD to make some "fix" parts of my own but I'm wondering if there is anyone else out there more qualified that is already on the case. If anyone hears a rumor let me know. I like rumors.
If I were to get one of these I'd get the dx9. The proportions are better in combine mode, I like the brighter colours, it's built better and the transformation is fun.
The irony in that the XTB's smaller size would probably fit for those who collect 45cm combiners (Jinbao's KO OS Predaking/Bruticus/Devastator, Jujiang Superion)... and yet those collectors probably would not be able to afford XTB prices.
Yo quick question I ended up getting the XTB Menasor with the left arm and left leg XTB figures and the right arm and right leg DX9 figures by mistake.....Is that going to matter because of size differences when combining them???? Please let me know yo?
Parts forming and too G1 in the bad sense for both. I can see why there’d be a market for that aesthetic and/or sentiment/ideology but can’t say they resonate with me. If I wanted something that G1 might as well get a statue or some Hasbro RED / super 7 ultimates thing. Has the historic accuracy and doesn’t carry the pretence of any substantive transformation ingenuity or even plausibility. That said I like the bots individually uncombined minus the ridiculously long dx9 motor master
Hey Bobby, if fansproject's intimidator were in scale with these, how would you feel about comparing? I've had mine for years, and I love the way it looked and transformed, but small compared to new combiner scale. Loved the comparison, keep up the great work
But Intimidator is an ultra stylized version, completely not G1, so the comparison makes no sense, even disregarding the size. I do own it and love it, I am using it with my legends scale collection, the size is perfect for them
I like the darker colors on Monolith, but that transformation to get the combined mode was such a mess. If I had my choice I'd go with DX9, but the G1 toy version.
To be fair, with the way the DX9 legs are on Menasor I don't think anything short of supergluing the bots to the back would keep them on due to how freakishly hard those ratchets are.
Great comparison as always, the XTB set is pretty but you can hear the exhaustion in Bobby's voice dealing with the combined form. I think XTB need to stop swinging for the fences & focus on solid base hits, the base model was such an unnecessary inclusion.
Still trying to decide. The xtransbot, you can't get crack up Standard Version. That's holding me up. But I personally would like to display x-transbots monolith individually. Not even get that expensive trailer. Because the individual robots is more dynamic, more display of course. And they look great. But if I can't get the set completely at once at this point. Obviously I'm just not going to get it
From the back it looks like x-transbots menasor is going skiing with those feet 😳 🤣, I guess beauty is really in the 👁 of the beholder. Im all in on the Fanstoys Menasor so here's 🤞that they get that weight issue with all that die-cast right. Awesome 📹. 🙏
I've seen someone pose the feet without the long heel part. It was just folded in, and it looked good. Cannot attest to how it affects the standing, I would guess it does to an extent, as I don't have it in hand yet.
Good Comparison Review. I can't wait for the 3-way battle. I chose Fanstoys for my team. I really like the Alt mode for the XTB Motormaster, to be honest, but I just can't buy any more XTB figures. What's the saying....fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.....no more XTB for me after Boost and Hatch. I really like DX9 Build quality...I have never had one that didn't feel solid and well made that I can think of....too bad that they have disappeared.... I really hope the combined mode for FT will be better than XTB and look better than DX9. I guess time will tell. I feel like parts forming IS necessary to make a combiner stable and doesn't bother me anymore. I like the accessory gimmick on the XTB vehicles where they did a nod to the original G1 vehicle weapons that were included with the figures. As always enjoy the videos....
I'm not really impressed with either Menasor. DX9's set is fine, but I want something just a little nicer, more "premium-looking", I guess - I've tried to convince myself it'll be good enough, but I just can't quite do it. X-Transbots got the look a bit better, but with the absolute mess that is the trailer, poor design choices (the ankles, the knee screws, and the base mode, for example), the false advertising and lies, and the numerous QC issues, it convinced me to sell my set. FansToys are the only one left but you can't even get them for reasonable prices. Dragstrip was going for almost twice the price only a day or two after release, which is to say nothing about the rest of the set. Pre-orders are pretty much impossible to get (I've been trying for about a year now), reissues cost way more than the original MSRP, and it seems even well-known retailers are getting into scalping (again, just look at Dragstrip). As much as I want them, they're just not worth almost twice the price that they should be, and I refuse to support that scalping behaviour. So I guess I won't be getting a Menasor any time soon, unless FansToys sorts out their stock issues and reissue pricing, amongst other issues.
Haven't transformed my XTB into monolith yet. I think it will require a large coffee and many swear words later... It looks better than dx9 tho , even though dx9 is bigger. I hope my monolith dosnt fall over. I hope xtb learn from this and make a better defensor.
I'm glad I skipped xtb trailer. Just didn't have the space. I'm glad I did, the xtb bots and vehicle modes looked brilliant. Wouldn't want the trailer tarnishing that lol
The Hasbro combiner wars menasor was so terrible that I just leave them as separate robots, these two don’t look bad but some of the transformations look very complicated and more of a headache than fun
Crazy Menasor wars. I bought the first DX9 release and sold it, bought all the XT bots, bought all the FT bots so far waiting to make a decision about what to keep. Decided I am keeping XT in bot modes and just bought all the DX9 to keep in combined mode. (Did not buy the XT add on sets). FT MISB will be sold for 1 million dollars at a later date. Muahahaha.
I love these comparison reviews. The effort that goes into them has to be extensive, especially since both Menasor’s appear to continuously be falling apart in places. Thanks for doing this video, Bobby.
I am still waiting on my XTB trailer. That said I am very pleased with my XTB set. The 4 limb bots, while they could have slightly better transformations, are exactly what I want for my limb bots, 4.5/5. Motormaster is good, just not great, 4/5. I have seen pics of XTB'S Menasor pulling off poses that suggest that at least some copies are more stable. I hope mine is. With all that said, I do have to give DX9 praise for a better transformation of the trailer and a huge thumbs up for the better build and better hardware. I'm not surprised that DX9 killed it in those 3 categories.
The collectors community is FULL of haters. Skullface is right! There’s a huge difference between criticism and hating. The haters only come out when someone else is doing something right!
DX9 combined mode destroys XTB. Not even close. I have both sitting in front of me. XTB is a overly panel, wobbly, unstable mess. If you care about what is the best 3P Menasor, DX9 wins hands down. Until Faaannnnsss Toysss releases theirs. Bot and alt car mode could go to XTB, if you care about displaying the set in those modes... so to speak. ;)
I still don't really agree with the Unicron thing. Trying to say that people are just picking on the maw piece's colour to justify not owning it, whether out of jealousy (seems unlikely) or otherwise, seems like a stretch. Plus it seems like most people who are upset are the ones who bought it, whereas there are a lot of apologists who are saying it's totally fine despite the false advertising on what is essentially a halo product (even though, as I've been saying all along, said halo product is also a Hasbro product, so this outcome was always likely). I don't think there are many, if any, people who are trying to justify not purchasing it over one little colour change, but one little colour change _is_ indicative of a much bigger problem (the long and short of which is basically "it's a Hasbro product"). I do feel, Bobby, that sometimes you tend to be in a bit of an echo chamber - I would be interested in seeing/hearing you engage in a full discussion with others outside of your usual circles over this stuff (though I realise that's easier said than done, especially at the moment).
This channel has become the Saturday morning ritual for a lot of people.
Afternoon for me.
What is this morning thing you speak of?
The transformation for xtb really ruined the experience for me. Took me a week to finally appreciate my menasor.
Well said. Same here. Def left a bad taste.... and I’m a big XTB fan. Then ya see the issues with Locke. Which is too bad bc he looked nice. Worked bout their springer (which I’m in on)
@@hq9344 ... but XTB is so reasonably priced... oh wait...
@@9xx19mm8- yeah, exactly. So for that type quality and now pricing at FT levels- could spell the end
So glad I'm want with DX-9, I DEFINITELY would have lost my mind trying to transform the TXB trailer. By the way Bobby, their is adapter you can get for wild rider. Works perfectly.
One of the best comparison vids I’ve seen. Way to go. I already committed to XTB because of how much I liked the scale of the 4 limb bots with the MP autobot cars. But I’m dreading the transformation of menasor. As a stand-alone it seems the Dx9 has better playability owing to more stable posing, and the threshold to combine and un-combine is lower.
Great video as usual Bobby. I have the xtb so maybe there is some personal bias, but I would have scored it 5-4 xtb. Switching sculpt and scale. For sculpt I think it looks better with more surface detail, yet matches the toon better. For scale if matched with zeta superion it's a half inch shorter, which I think menasor should be, but about even at the top of the antenna. Would have liked to see dx9 next to zeta if it's taller that definitely wouldn't work for me. P.S. loved the grimlock video you deserve it.
Based solely on this video, I have chosen ... poorly. I chose the XTB based on the pro's mentioned in the video AND I preferred the scale of the bots and cars over the larger DX9 Stunticons. That was the one thing that kept me from going with DX9; the size of the bots and alt modes. It's a shame that, for me, XTB seemed to be "the one" for the win in my book, only to see them fumble in the end. I won't lie, it hurts. At least I can enjoy them individually.
The bot modes still look great dude. I'm still happier knowing the dx9 car bots are scaled to the Takara car bots. It's the right scale in my eyes. The trailer is a shame though.
Attila(as DX9's designs usually do) looks like a CHUG next to Monolith, how's that many of you can't see that?!
@@markc5193the XTB ones you mean.
@@TAURON85 oh yeah slight typo there. Xtb bots and Alt look great on a shelf
Thank you for the comparison. I think it was a fair opinion. I'm in on XTB, I don't like the look of DX9 at all. I'm also not sold on the FT and DX9 sizing but I know that's all matter of opinion.... I'm gonna set it and forget it.
This presentation made me subscribe today. Honestly, I didn’t earlier, in fact, I steer towards Emgo because his geekiness is appealing to me, and when it comes to reviews, I have a better success rate. But you are one up on the ratings now. I love how you included your girls in the voting process, while emgo complains about his cat hairs. Kids over cats any day of the week, but once someone gets their dogs involved… what can I say; I LOVES THE PUPPIES. Thank you. I almost whipped out a card to secure a monolith for me, but Atilla is going to represent my collection’s Menasor.
I have DX9's. When I first saw what Menasor looked like and how tall he was in comparison to Xtransbots, I knew that was the version I was going with. Wasn't even going to waste my time or money chasing Fanstoys
Great video, very helpful, than you so much.
Just wanted to let you know Bobby that me being a scrub in this TF collecting game, your channel has been the go-to channel for making informed Transformers purchase decisions.
Not just because of your reviews (which are dope), but combined with all of your other content that you make, like these comparison videos, the builder series, the dummies discussions, the sit downs, the collection critiques, etc. have helped me tremendously in terms of being informed in this TF collecting game.
So wanted to say thank you for all the hard work, honesty, and most importantly, the passion you put into the content you make. It really shines through. You a real one man.
Sorry the long post but after seeing the awesome community Dinobot video, I just wanted to give this man his flowers from one of the newer fans that he has helped in this community. 👍
Thanks Bobby. I was really looking forward to this comparison.
between this comparison and your review of each you helped save me some money. I like the look of this one better because of the look of the arms compared to Atilla particularly at the elbows, and the proportion of the thighs to the rest of the legs. Height is also an issue with my Zeta and TW combiners. I'll probably have to hold out for someone else. Thanks for another set of great reviews and comparison.
Thanks good Bobby, always fantastic comparison review!
All that stuff coming apart while posing and the trailer detail showing is why I don't want fanstoys to transform. I cycle my figures out so I put them back in the box when not using them, I'm going to hate having to transform the fanstoys when it gets put away.
I think I’d be happy with either of these. I’ve gone with FT, so we’ll see how that turns out.
After all this though, I think I’d prefer a combined only action figure than having all the parts-forming. I like how they do combine, the principle of it, but I’m just not sure it’s worth the compromises when so much of the figure is parts-formed, and the body bots just end up being plugged in at the back, not even being required.
I went with FT and XTB. FT was a no brainer. Even if the combined mode didn’t work I’d still use them for bot mode.
I rolled the dice (and it was a gamble) on XTB for combined mode over DX9 because I wasn’t a fan of DX9 Menasor’s frame aesthetics (namely the visible gears on the elbows and the big lower legs). However, I now regret my decision to go with XTB over DX9. After the price of Dr Egg and now their Menasor’s surprise frame price and build issues, XTB’s reputation has been harmed in my eyes.
Why is the trailer overpriced I expected it from the time I bought my first figure. I can’t understand why people thought this would be in the 100 range. I mean a single figure now is $275 or more like Takara starscream
l went all in on Dx9 because of the size of the combiner, but am now even happier because of how stable he is in comparison to what you've shown with XTB. I custom paint most of my MPs, so the large panels of the Dx9 create more options to work with, especially breaking up the gray on the front shins/legs and chest. My take is it's always easier to enhance color with paint and accents with some gunpla-type etching than it is to re-tool stability, engineering or the anything to do with size. For me, Dx9 Menasor for the WIN (... well, until FT comes through with theirs).
Thanks for all the time and effort for so little return. This is my first post but I always watch all your videos you have been my favourite reviewer for masterpiece transformers bar-none.
The amount of work you put into these comparisons is staggering. I’m gonna rewatch this ten times just so you hopefully get some more revenue.
UA-cam discounts multiple views from the same source so that content producers can't milk the system.
@@hulksmash8159 gotcha. Email links being sent out
@@oneeyexl Yep, there is always a way.
I’m not sure Bobby even makes anything really off these so I recommend the Patreon
As always great video!! Personally I think there so different..it's really hard to compare. Personally I think the overall look goes to the X-transbots. But the overall stability goes to the Dx9.
Basically, it's Atilla The Fun vs Monolith The Drunk.
I've been all in on the Fans Toys set... But, I was tempted to swoop up the Dx-9 figures, just so I could have a completed Menasor on the shelf until Fans Toys' last figure finally arrived... But, I ultimately decided to double up on Fans Toys, so I have 2 of each FT release. Although I'll have to wait I'm glad I made that call. I think when this is all said and done, FT is going to win in Bot, Vehicle, and Combined modes. So fingers crossed this set is everything I think it will be... But now I'm thinking about going 3 deep on FT, so I can have 1 for Bot, and 1 for each combined mode, because the Toon and Studio Ox versions are just so different from each other.
Thanks for the Saturday morning entertainment! Way back in the beginning of the Menasor wars I decided to go with DX9 based on scale first and cost 2nd thinking they would be the middle of the road option for cost...boy how that cost changed! Also, I didn't want to wait for Fanstoys to complete theirs. My guess is that if FTs is stable in combined mode their gonna take 1st. Either way glad we have options for what is my favorite combiner.
Kinda starting to regret going in on the XTransbot, should have just got the DX9. Bummer but, this is such a tough call. Great compare and review!
You are not alone. I would sell my Xtransbots to buy the DX9 version.
XTB's bots not being in scale is *purely* a subjective call, because the Stuntacons aren't definitively one size. For every shot suggesting they are Seeker size (DX9) there is another indicating that they are the same size as an Autobot carbot.
i have seen stunticons size on the show all over the place... there is not true scale
"I imagine that that shoe felt pretty comfortable on your feet" I love that line. Lol
I like elements of all 3 sets and my dilemma is figuring out which set to display in what mode. I like the overall aesthetic of XTB best, but scale is an issue in various forms. I love DX9’s stability and durability, individual bots are more poseable than FT, but combined mode isn’t visually appealing. FT is making some good looking individual bits and has great materials and paint, but the individual bots are the least articulated and the combined mode renders do nothing for me.
Thank you for the work bobby
Great comparison. I'm glad I caught your thoughts on capone early on and jumped on the dx9 set. I agree on most your thoughts on how xtb shines. But the whole package works for me. #teamdx9
Aw man, you had one DX9 thigh right in the last video, now they're back to being mistransformed. It really does look so much better if you do it properly. (EDIT: And now they're right in the close ups. Huh.)
I dunno what the XTB black plastic looks like in person, but in photos and videos, it looks like the cheapest, ugliest, nastiest garbage I can imagine. It looks like the kind of plastic you use for packaging.
I was going to get the XTB set when it was first announced, but I bailed when I saw that godawful bandaid plastic they used for breakdown, and I honestly feel like I dodged a bullet. The price, the nightmarish transformations, the unstable combined mode, the awful proportions that make him look like a toddler on steroids, the ugly metallic purple on motormaster, the clip-on wheels on the legs that made them look like pinewood derby cars, I really find nothing redeemable about this set and this combined mode, and feel bad for folks who didn't see that until they were too far in and got got by the price gouging and are now compelled by sunk cost fallacy to try to pretend it wasn't all a huge mistake.
The DX9 one isn't perfect, but at least they didn't price gouge me right at the end, and it's stable and looks better next to the zeta bots. Menasor war over as far as I'm concerned.
Great video as always. Man, that looked like a lot of work to put together. Made me tired just watching it.
Great review
After watching both sets of reviews I would have DX9. Fortunately I don't need these. Thanks as always for your fair and honest assessment.
Not that one would ever pose a combiner with their legs pointing straight back and i’m pretty sure the tensioned joints would behave the same way, AND i’m only mentioning because it’s part of your usual routine when it come to range of motion, but you only tested the range and durability of the legs straight forward.
Never straight back.. which you usually do... “for the full monty / run”..
I think that was pretty fair. DX-9's better all around. The only reason I'm sticking with the XTB is because his looks. For me, It just looks better. But I'm not looking forward to that XTB nightmare transformation. 😓 I'm just going to get them in combine mode, put them in an A stance and there they shall stay forever. That was my initial plan... XtB for combine mode and FansToys for individual robots modes. But, that could change if FansToys mange to pull up a better combiner. I don't know... this whole XTB trailer debacle has been one huge let down. Makes me worry about their upcoming Defensor set. Is that one going to be like their Menasor? There's always the MMC one, but that combiner is going to be the size of their Bruticus. Too small. We'll see.
Thanks for taking the time to make this comparison video. Great work as always. 👍👍👍
I'm all in for the scale that Zeta set for the Combiners, therefore DX9 will be my Menasor, and since I have just aquired all 5 Dx9 Stunticons, finally, I have them all!
I am also getting the XTB Stunticons as my bot mode set.
So glad I went in early with the DX9 for combiner mode (Wish the combiner car legs were able to click into the front). Thanks to your previous comparison review.
Fans Toys will stay in their respective bot modes.
And I recently picked up XTB “Youth Version” because I like the toy aesthetic and the packaging. Doubt I will buy that trailer. Other than waiting on FansToys & XTB last bots, I’m happy to close this chapter on Menasor. On to Predaking and Defensor.
Great versus. I think the aggravation factor is huge... these are meant to be transformed and posed and combined, after all. If it isn't an enjoyable experience to move them between modes at least occasionally, what's the point of having all that engineering?
Soild comparison thanks man, I get what you mean about the hight, I've got TW constructor and the two zeta combiners all displayed together, you had any thoughts on the Defensor if you plan on getting one?
Thanks man! I needed that!....I just wish the DX-9 made the color choices that XTB made. That dark gray vs the light gray makes a difference. I also like how the XTB lower legs are less boxy. But I own DX-9 Gabriel (OmegaSup) and it is fantastic so I trust them with these bigger bots. ✊🏽
Been looking forward to this. I'm hella undecided.
I own the Xtransbots version. Don’t get the Xtransbots if you value your money, time and patience. Hope this helps.
It sucks because I was looking forward to the Xtransbots set
Besides the horror that the trailer transformation is, I haven't had any other issues with Monolith. He stands fine for me.
I regret nothing. Got the XTB set. The trailer turned out better than my fears after the retool. It may be cancer, but it looks good.
I hate that I can't argue with a single point here. I have the XTB. I am still happy with my choice, albeit I think XTB needs to send out some replacement parts and upgrades FOC. I'm not holding my breath.
I'm messing around in CAD to make some "fix" parts of my own but I'm wondering if there is anyone else out there more qualified that is already on the case.
If anyone hears a rumor let me know. I like rumors.
Silver and gold Bobby 😆👍🏼 Great review bro .
Holy shit, that XTB trailer transformation.
If I were to get one of these I'd get the dx9. The proportions are better in combine mode, I like the brighter colours, it's built better and the transformation is fun.
The irony in that the XTB's smaller size would probably fit for those who collect 45cm combiners (Jinbao's KO OS Predaking/Bruticus/Devastator, Jujiang Superion)... and yet those collectors probably would not be able to afford XTB prices.
Atilla all the way. Especially if have the reverse cars to the front upgrade
Yo quick question I ended up getting the XTB Menasor with the left arm and left leg XTB figures and the right arm and right leg DX9 figures by mistake.....Is that going to matter because of size differences when combining them???? Please let me know yo?
Parts forming and too G1 in the bad sense for both. I can see why there’d be a market for that aesthetic and/or sentiment/ideology but can’t say they resonate with me. If I wanted something that G1 might as well get a statue or some Hasbro RED / super 7 ultimates thing. Has the historic accuracy and doesn’t carry the pretence of any substantive transformation ingenuity or even plausibility. That said I like the bots individually uncombined minus the ridiculously long dx9 motor master
Hey Bobby, if fansproject's intimidator were in scale with these, how would you feel about comparing? I've had mine for years, and I love the way it looked and transformed, but small compared to new combiner scale. Loved the comparison, keep up the great work
But Intimidator is an ultra stylized version, completely not G1, so the comparison makes no sense, even disregarding the size. I do own it and love it, I am using it with my legends scale collection, the size is perfect for them
I think XTB looks prettier...and on the shelf would beat DX9.. long as u dont have to touch it...
Ugly proportion and he’s shorter than other combiners (if you display him beside TW devastator or zeta superion etc.)
@@pandamant666 Menasor was always slightly shorter on the G1 cartoon
I like the darker colors on Monolith, but that transformation to get the combined mode was such a mess. If I had my choice I'd go with DX9, but the G1 toy version.
DX-9 looks super beefy in that last pic (19:52) with them resting on their swords
I have both and Trash bots sucks... i regret buying it... they will stay in single bot mode all they are good for. DX9 all the way all day!
To be fair, with the way the DX9 legs are on Menasor I don't think anything short of supergluing the bots to the back would keep them on due to how freakishly hard those ratchets are.
Incredible breakdown. Ahahaha Get on a space shuttle!
Im in for the XTB youth version. And Fans Toys. DX9 looks really good as combined, but I couldn't justify a 3rd set
Great comparison as always, the XTB set is pretty but you can hear the exhaustion in Bobby's voice dealing with the combined form.
I think XTB need to stop swinging for the fences & focus on solid base hits, the base model was such an unnecessary inclusion.
Still trying to decide. The xtransbot, you can't get crack up Standard Version. That's holding me up. But I personally would like to display x-transbots monolith individually. Not even get that expensive trailer. Because the individual robots is more dynamic, more display of course. And they look great. But if I can't get the set completely at once at this point. Obviously I'm just not going to get it
Zeta showed the formula for combiners. Yet hard to duplicate 🤷♂️
Kinda regret going in on XTB on this set. I'm probably not going to get the trailer for XTB and just have the stunticons
I painted the eyes of Dx9 Menasor and it looks a lot better then the light up feature.
From the back it looks like x-transbots menasor is going skiing with those feet 😳 🤣, I guess beauty is really in the 👁 of the beholder. Im all in on the Fanstoys Menasor so here's 🤞that they get that weight issue with all that die-cast right. Awesome 📹. 🙏
I've seen someone pose the feet without the long heel part. It was just folded in, and it looked good. Cannot attest to how it affects the standing, I would guess it does to an extent, as I don't have it in hand yet.
Thanks Bobby, could hear when asking your family how much this had taken out of you.
XTB is a nightmare
06:02 is the body of the XTB tilting to the right?
Are you kidding me here?
not surprising, XTB balancing is horrible
@@davidez4640 I mean the waist, the legs are ok but from the waist and up is tilting to a dangerous levels!
solid review! Dx9 for me!
I would take the XTB head with the DX9 body.
Good Comparison Review. I can't wait for the 3-way battle. I chose Fanstoys for my team. I really like the Alt mode for the XTB Motormaster, to be honest, but I just can't buy any more XTB figures. What's the saying....fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.....no more XTB for me after Boost and Hatch. I really like DX9 Build quality...I have never had one that didn't feel solid and well made that I can think of....too bad that they have disappeared.... I really hope the combined mode for FT will be better than XTB and look better than DX9. I guess time will tell. I feel like parts forming IS necessary to make a combiner stable and doesn't bother me anymore. I like the accessory gimmick on the XTB vehicles where they did a nod to the original G1 vehicle weapons that were included with the figures. As always enjoy the videos....
i bought the XTB due to the appearance is better, but i sold the XBT and bought DX9 in the end ..
I'm not really impressed with either Menasor. DX9's set is fine, but I want something just a little nicer, more "premium-looking", I guess - I've tried to convince myself it'll be good enough, but I just can't quite do it.
X-Transbots got the look a bit better, but with the absolute mess that is the trailer, poor design choices (the ankles, the knee screws, and the base mode, for example), the false advertising and lies, and the numerous QC issues, it convinced me to sell my set.
FansToys are the only one left but you can't even get them for reasonable prices. Dragstrip was going for almost twice the price only a day or two after release, which is to say nothing about the rest of the set. Pre-orders are pretty much impossible to get (I've been trying for about a year now), reissues cost way more than the original MSRP, and it seems even well-known retailers are getting into scalping (again, just look at Dragstrip). As much as I want them, they're just not worth almost twice the price that they should be, and I refuse to support that scalping behaviour.
So I guess I won't be getting a Menasor any time soon, unless FansToys sorts out their stock issues and reissue pricing, amongst other issues.
I would hope Mastermind Creactions releases their version of menasor
Haven't transformed my XTB into monolith yet.
I think it will require a large coffee and many swear words later...
It looks better than dx9 tho , even though dx9 is bigger.
I hope my monolith dosnt fall over.
I hope xtb learn from this and make a better defensor.
I'm glad I skipped xtb trailer. Just didn't have the space. I'm glad I did, the xtb bots and vehicle modes looked brilliant. Wouldn't want the trailer tarnishing that lol
The Hasbro combiner wars menasor was so terrible that I just leave them as separate robots, these two don’t look bad but some of the transformations look very complicated and more of a headache than fun
I’ll have to check that out
You know which won by which is on Bobby’s shelf 🤔
I'm guessing most people? Want to go for looks. Because most of us just like to display and not play as much. I could be off
@16:06 to @16:25 was absolutely true
After seeing the transformation on the Xtransbots set, I'm out. Which sucks because I was gonna get that set as my Menasor.
blimey Ive never been this early for anything in a very long time ..
I don't want to have to take an entire day off work to transform him,...just an afternoon. So im going with dx9. HAYOOOJ trailer be damned.
Crazy Menasor wars. I bought the first DX9 release and sold it, bought all the XT bots, bought all the FT bots so far waiting to make a decision about what to keep. Decided I am keeping XT in bot modes and just bought all the DX9 to keep in combined mode. (Did not buy the XT add on sets). FT MISB will be sold for 1 million dollars at a later date. Muahahaha.
I love these comparison reviews. The effort that goes into them has to be extensive, especially since both Menasor’s appear to continuously be falling apart in places.
Thanks for doing this video, Bobby.
Yeah DX-9 is definitely much better aesthetically
I am still waiting on my XTB trailer. That said I am very pleased with my XTB set. The 4 limb bots, while they could have slightly better transformations, are exactly what I want for my limb bots, 4.5/5.
Motormaster is good, just not great, 4/5.
I have seen pics of XTB'S Menasor pulling off poses that suggest that at least some copies are more stable. I hope mine is.
With all that said, I do have to give DX9 praise for a better transformation of the trailer and a huge thumbs up for the better build and better hardware. I'm not surprised that DX9 killed it in those 3 categories.
The collectors community is FULL of haters. Skullface is right! There’s a huge difference between criticism and hating. The haters only come out when someone else is doing something right!
DX9 one is also cheaper.
Hmmm. Looking at it now I sort of like X-trandbots now.
If it were not for some people snapping the knees of combined mode.
If Michael Myers was a Transformer he'd definitely be Menasaur.
Why does your xtb menasor look bent at the waist
Mine doesn’t stand like that? Did you break it?
Shoot. i dont hate on nothing. I want to get all the transformers i can afford. I love them all.
😆 so accurate about Haslabs Unicron and some (a lot?) of people’s opinions.
Alt mode XTB, combiner DX9, bot mode FANSTOYS
FEET!
DX9 combined mode destroys XTB. Not even close. I have both sitting in front of me. XTB is a overly panel, wobbly, unstable mess. If you care about what is the best 3P Menasor, DX9 wins hands down. Until Faaannnnsss Toysss releases theirs. Bot and alt car mode could go to XTB, if you care about displaying the set in those modes... so to speak. ;)
Only thing this video does for me is make me regret getting the xtb set.
I still don't really agree with the Unicron thing. Trying to say that people are just picking on the maw piece's colour to justify not owning it, whether out of jealousy (seems unlikely) or otherwise, seems like a stretch. Plus it seems like most people who are upset are the ones who bought it, whereas there are a lot of apologists who are saying it's totally fine despite the false advertising on what is essentially a halo product (even though, as I've been saying all along, said halo product is also a Hasbro product, so this outcome was always likely). I don't think there are many, if any, people who are trying to justify not purchasing it over one little colour change, but one little colour change _is_ indicative of a much bigger problem (the long and short of which is basically "it's a Hasbro product").
I do feel, Bobby, that sometimes you tend to be in a bit of an echo chamber - I would be interested in seeing/hearing you engage in a full discussion with others outside of your usual circles over this stuff (though I realise that's easier said than done, especially at the moment).