Babe, I’m so glad you’re doing a video on this. Everyone wants to be a stylist, but majority of them don’t know how to do 4c hair. If your hair is coarse and nappy, then all of a sudden they can’t do it. It’s wild. No license, just unprofessional and vibes.
They want the title of being a stylist however they don’t want to do the hard work or actually love what they do. It’s all about money and flexing online
@@MsElfMannequin Exactly. Our precolonial ancestors were crafting elaborate cornrow arrangements on 4C hair without flat irons, JAM, Blow dryers, or edge control and formed beautiful styles. If a person can't do the hair that most of us have, then they can't do black hair. Period.
Listennnn. I recently booked with one of these “stylist” and it was only because she did my sisters hair and it looked so good. I had an event that I had to go to mind you I told this lady that in advance, she cancelled my appointment 3 days before!!! and told me she had to reschedule my appointment and I told her no, send me back my deposit and that I’ll be going elsewhere, she had the nerve to tell me that she doesn’t give refunds… girl I told her I have no problem coming to her salon and getting it if she wants to play these games lol and I contacted the BBB on her. I kindly got my money back
@@silknsatin1325that’s the thing. A lot of these “stylist” have no customer service or even people skills they have no business owning a business because they only care about money
There are some good “Old School Stylist”, but let’s not over generalize. Some old school stylist are out of pocket, too. I remember beauticians over booking a particular time, not being on time, leaving, stopping to eat, leaving you under the dryer to finish other people and having an appt time of 4 but not getting serviced until 5 or later. Stylist from either era can treat their clients badly.
The problem is this newer generation is too entitled. The prices for a lot of these styles don't equal at all. The deposit generation or come washed already is ridiculous. Also some people need to realize when doing hair is not their ministry.
I don’t agree about the deposits, if people didn’t scam them so much or back out at the last minute then it wouldn’t be a thing but most of time deposits aren’t over $25 and it goes to your total so it shouldn’t be a huge problem 🤷🏾♀️ ofc some people abuse the deposits so I understand what you mean if that’s what you meant
A jealous BLACK hairstylist ruined my hair last year. She "forgot" to give me specific do's and don'ts for the treatment I asked for. She also gave me bad products to buy. When I left the salon I looked regal. 2 months later my hair was such a mess, falling out, brittle ends etc. I had to wear protective styles to look decent. I called that woman to find out what happened, she went "oh my bad I forgot to tell you...." but she didn't sound surprised at all and gave me a very robotic answer as to what to do. That was a traumatic experience. I haven't gone to a salon since. I understand why some BW only go to non blck salons that do blck hair. That hairstylist kept her hair short, not by choice, but because she didn't know how to maintain her hair. She was so triggered at my hair, especially when one of her male co-workers started going on and on about how gorgeous it looks. I found out she got fired too. I'm scared of hair salons niw, esp. blck ones, I have yet to have had a good experience with them those past 3 years. Last year was the last straw for me. I've decided to learn to do my hair with YT since. 😢
Go into a white salon who has a stylist that can do black hair. It's crazy how much cheaper it is and how good your hair comes out. We have a couple in the UK which I prefer going too more than the black hair salons. It's a shame it's this way!
@ShasstamaHolistics I'm the opposite. I'm white and go to a black barber who also went to cosmetology school. He's the only one I trust with my hair anymore
I’m white and the women hating women thing is so real and I don’t totally get it. Women can be their own worst enemies sometimes. I think it’s way worse now than in the past. I can’t believe stylists are charging car payments prices and aren’t licensed. That’s wild. I couldn’t afford any of that. It sounds like stylists want your hair to be basically done before getting to the salon.
That's really true! My sister and I have 4c hair, and on multiple occasions have had to get our hair relaxed before a stylist will put it into extensions or box braids.
Here’s the issue, a lot of the new stylist aren’t going to hair school and getting a license so they missed out on the opportunity to actually build up customer service skills as well as professionalism. These things are taught in the curriculum. A huge part of being a good stylist is actually having good customer service skills that’s like the number one thing in this field, and also your ability to care for hair NOT just know how to do it. Also, the first thing you learn in school is how to wash and properly blow dry hair, so to have “stylist” not even incorporating that in the service is beyond me. -a current cosmetology student 💁🏽♀️
That’s actually not it. I’ve learned how to do my own hair due to lack of goof customer service, and someone messing up my hair yet they had a license…. Something’s can’t be taught when it comes to having people skills. There are bad people in every profession. Even nurses and chef can have a bad attitude.
I stopped getting my hair done when i asked for a trim and she cut of 6 inches. Walked in with waist length hair and walked out with bra strap length hair. Best believe Ive been cutting my own hair for 10 years now. Hair is waist length again and healthy as ever. Never again.
I’ve been getting my ends dusted every 4 months. I went to a new stylist and she said I needed to cut 3+ inches off. Going to the salon these days is frustrating, no one knows what they’re doing 😫
As a white girl this is so shocking and heartbreaking to find out about. I feel as if every girl of every race can relate to having more hair chopped off than we want or just having some kind of hair horror story, but not washing your client’s hair? Isn’t that what hair stylists do first? Applying chemicals to your hair without your consent, braiding your hair so tight that it ends up damaging your hair instead of protecting it, it’s all very sickening to hear. My heart goes out to all you ladies ❤️
My mom is a hairstylist and I would help her in her salon. She was always washing the hair of clients, first thing. When she did my hair, that was also the first thing she did.
In addition to the crazy charges , let’s talk about the length of time it takes to get your hair done nowadays I was in a salon one time for almost 4-5 hours for a SILK PRESS and at the end of my service she lets me know there’s an upcharge for an additional $60 because I haven’t gotten my hair done by her in the last 6 months 😭 like that is ridiculous 🤣 we got to do better!
No, some of these "hairstylists" need to be bashed and shamed, it is ridiculous. I'm lucky I found a good person to do my hair every month but some of my past experiences have left a horrible impression on me. I LOVED the intro...took me back!
There’s a lack of black women taking on jobs in the industry everyone wants to climb the corporate ladder. Doctors, lawyers scientists. Nobody wants a humble beauty salon. If they do work in the beauty industry they want to be high profile celebrity stylist.
@@kikitokiobaberwhite person here. Doesnt jusyify the mis-service in salon industry. The hairdressers are just so entitled and deliberately arrogant, do what they want with your hair and sometimes physically abusive to us ! Un necessary pulling, roughness. Looks like specialist black salons are worse to me from watching these vids..but plenty of this in ours too ! Heard an aussie stylist tell me the training has gone waaay shorter and not good quality. Im now not going back if i can help it. I can understand the frustration.
I know a Master Cosmetologist who's been licensed for over 40 years and helped shape hair styling as we know it today. She says the problem nowadays is not knowing the difference between a simple Stylist v Cosmetologist. Depending on the state, the latter is held to stricter regulations, longer schooling, a deeper knowledge of the craft, and must maintain more CEUs to broaden their education throughout the years. Going to a licensed cosmetologist is safer. Some of these Stylists want to make the same premium bucks by doing the minimum with less training and knowledge. Not all, but some.
Growing up in the 80s, 90s and up to 2007 I had this one hairstylist who did my mom and my hair and she was the best. She even did my hair for my wedding. She passed away from cancer in 2008 when I was pregnant with my first child and it was devastating because it was like losing a family member. I remember paying $20 for each serving and, if I wanted my hair relaxed it's $40 and box braids, $60. Now these hairstylists are ridiculous, I wanted my daughter's hair did for homecoming at her high school last year and she wanted the silk press and the salon charged $250 and I was like hell no! I ended up doing my daughter's hair myself and it turned out great regardless. I even do my own hair, just to save money and I cut my husband's hair.
The crazier thing is relaxers have been proven to cause cancer and oil sheen etc contain VOCs. My great grandmother was also a hairdresser and she passed from cancer. Maybe the new price is a shift differential for oncology risk
@@MrArtVein it’s definitely not that. Black women don’t make a peep about the dangers of all of those products and fumes. They are on a major bag chase to the point that it’s scary.
I stopped going to the salons years ago, stopped in 2012. It’s been bad for a while. They are rude. Make you wait. Charge too much. Put chemicals in your hair you don’t want. Burn your scalp. I won’t take my daughter to a salon to protect her from this drama. Now to hear many people are not even licensed. Horrible! And my husband says barbers do similar things. I keep my hair natural. Never had a perm. No braids or weaves. I can’t wait until trends change and all this fake nails, hair etc is out of fashion. I look forward to us black women enjoying our natural hair and looks!
as an Ethiopian🇪🇹 born in 🇨🇦i was shocked when hairstylists make you wash and blowdry at home! in Ethiopia it is common knowledge that the hairstylist obviously washes your hair!! thats why in canada i always go to Ethiopian/Eritrean stylists! they do you so well yall and arent expensive!
Exactly 💯 I can't stand the wash and blow dry before you come. Like I am paying for a service not paying to do half the work myself. Plus, a real hairstylist will wash your hair to make sure it's clean before using their tools.
Growing up they always wash ur hair my mother was a stylist and I’m I was so accustomed to that but wen I started going to other ppl it was like they wanted u to do the work with the full pay or especially if you got 4c and go to a non black stylist they would ask you to perm your hair before you come like tf
I understand what you're saying but at the same time I wouldn't recommend using their salon shampoos some conditioners because they're not natural for natural hair that's why I stopped washing my own hair at the salon before getting it done because a lot of the stuff that they used even if they claim to know how to are to have natural hair products for hair it's not really the case so I can understand that part but as for me I go to a traditional I'm African hair breeding salon and I've been going there 45 years and I had a traumatic experience prior to going there before about 10 years earlier Before I started going to this one but I wash my own hair before I go to a salon to get it braided twisted and/or I don't need to braids and twists that's it that's the only style I do or I say crochet braids and I can understand some of their price things for regular box braids for me as 120 for small Swiss that's like It's 1:06ty 2170 for crochet it may be a little bit more but it's not so over the top where I can't afford it but I'd rather wash my own hair With my own shampoo's conditioners I don't even blow dry my hair myself because that also doesn't keep your hair moisturized
To me the salon was another form of women bonding and coming together. I also feel the stylist actually LOVED doing hair. & will love it so much that depending on your circumstances they may do something for you free of charge. They damn sure would never charge you over $100.00 for a press and curl, blow out, touch up etc. (unless you were getting a certain hairstyle that will require extra hair & longer hours).Especially if they worked in the community where you know that’s not affordable for customers. Especially for single moms with daughters who need their hair done as well. One customer should not be paying your whole car note.& there was no such thing as a deposit . Just call & ask for availability. If you need to reschedule just say the word. Lastly, they would NEVER risk their license or business by telling you to come with your hair washed & blown out. A real professional will tell you that most customers look forward to the hair washing because it’s cathartic. Little do these current so called stylists know that is what really keeps your business thriving and growing. I hope we get back to it one day. Because today’s stylist are just doing it for the money.
Another thing I noticed is that these new "hairstylists" always use gel and i don't remember growing up ever seeing my mom or other black women needing gel to make neat parts. Another thing i hate i them asking for you to come to the salon with your hair blowdried but it can't have any products (creams or oils) and for me not using any products before blow drying it would destroy my hair. I've done it once and my scalp was terribly dry and never again after that. Why can't they braid without gel?? And is your grip that bad that you can't braid with a moisturized hair?? It's so stupid
Thank you for speaking on this. I had to stop going to black salons unfortunately. I go to black stylists in mixed salons. Instead of a $65-$120 for a flat iron I'm charged $35. Braids are usually $100 to $200 with a wash included. My youngest daughter has locs and those salon rules were ridiculous. I had to pay $120 for retwists every 2-3 weeks. If you have to cancel it's a $45 charge. I found a big name salon with a black stylists for her too. There's no take down fee or cancellation fees. The price for retwists is $60. So, I give a nice tip to the stylist because of the lower prices and it's still cheaper. I literally can ball out and give a 20 or 30 dollar tip. It's still cheaper! I have gone to upscale beauty schools sometimes as well and had a very good experience. I just don't understand why the blk salons do this. I'd much rather go there and have all my money go to them. Unfortunately, it's just robbery to me. Especially if you can go to a high end salon that serves mixed clientele with all hair types and get charged less while being treated like Queen. They bring you water and some offer wine sometimes. It's a wonderful experience. I really wish we could get it together and treat ourselves like that. It's sad to me. 😢
Thank you for this video I'm getting tired of professional hairstylists overcharging me $170-$190 for a silk press and different hairstyles hell nah i feel like I'm being ripped off in general I'm not happy anymore i can't get my nails done anymore
Welp I finally got fed up and now do my own trims. One time I washed, treated, blow dried, and pressed my hair then went to a stylist around the corner to get a trim. I really just needed the ends dusted no more than 1 inch. I didn’t have an appointment because I wasn’t expecting to need a trim until I saw my ends when I pressed it. Anyway, the stylist was so appalled that I didn’t have an appointment and publicly embarrassed me in her salon. If she said she couldn’t take me with an ounce of kindness I wouldn’t mind because I get it, I didn’t have an appointment. But it was the stink attitude and ghetto behavior that turned me off. Mind you, I’m not a new client and I’ve sat in her chair multiple times. That day I decided I will never go to a hairstylist again. Why? Because I went across the street to another salon and was laughed at and they sent me next door to a Korean salon. I have type 4 hair btw. The woman couldn’t even understand me when I said “trim”. That was the final straw for me. The humiliation by black women was enough for me to never look back. They could’ve declined me kindly and I would go my merry way. And book an appointment. I miss the days when you could walk into a salon and leave feeling good and beautiful. These new stylist don’t care anything about that. They yank your hair out, humiliate you, require tips, and up-charge for everything. I’m through with them!
These new school hair stylists base their prices on the Instagram baddie lifestyle they want to have, not the actual service. I also think prejudice & self-hate has a lot to do with it as well. I think inflation is a pathetic excuse. They're charging more but doing less. Makes no sense. The most I'd be willing to pay for boho knotless braids is $300, & that's only if the hair is included. They're cute, but they're not that cute lol.
I wish ya'll would find me...I'm a good stylist prices $42-$50 wash & finish (silk press)....products coming soon for elasticity & moisture $10 &up (products & hair treatments) natural botanical oil relaxers $65 haircuts $25 ...❤️...these shop owners want u to b established too...u can't "sit" & wait for walk-ins cuz it looks like e'rbody got a Wig, braids or some dreads.. so black women natural cuz they lazy & need to comb their hair...mine was damaged, so I get it braided...every 6 weeks take down to rest 3 weeks & do again..braid different ways to avoid demarcation (sp), clip ends every 6 weeks, use oils for moisture, conditioning masks, shampoo w/cleansing scalp elements & watch it grow....❤️
Side hustles didnt come with a customer service manual smh None of these mfs can get money out of me. I do my own everything except my braids... and when i get back into aviation, im flying to Africa to get my hair braided
I'm glad I'm not the only one baffled at these stylists taking deposits, keeping those deposits no matter what, and charging you for the haircut even if you end up not being able to show up. The main reason I believe they still do this is because they have a social media following that defends them and makes excuses for them.
Let's not talk about the hours that they keep now. Monday through Friday 8:00 to 5:00 p.m. no Saturdays. When did I have to start leaving work early to go get my hair done? I remember stylist would have appointments all the way up until 6:00 or 6:30 p.m. depending on the day. It is so unnecessarily difficult now to find someone to do your hair.
This! My stylist had the nerve to only be open 8 to 3. I work a 9 to 5 job. I only got to see her twice a year because I couldn't afford to take the time off work. I stopped going and learned to take care of it myself for a while.
Your first mistake was going to a Dominican salon. I never understood why black women would ever go to them. There is an anti-blackness in their culture, which will impact how they treat our hair. I am aware that this is changing in the Dominican community, although it is recent. Regarding the new black hair installers, I can't call someone who won't wash your hair a hairdresser. They are allowed to charge any price they want. However, it has motivated me to learn my hair texture. For now, my old school hairdresser is not retired. Thank you, G-d!
Last month, I went to the salon for the first time in 2 years and was charged $250 for a dye job and a flatiron(the first time it was only $100). My edges are now heat damaged and will not return to their natural curl pattern. If I could rock a shaved head, I would because I'm done with these stylists charging a car note for basic services and traumatic experiences.
I used to go to this lady. She was SUPER nice, but did hair okay. I finally stopped going. I returned 3 years later for a cut and she said, wow your hair got so thick, what did you do? My first thought was, not come to you for 3 years 😅 now i do it myself. I Need to learn how to trim better
Trim is so hard. I keep messing up every time I try. I wear my hair straight so I can’t be messing it up. Maybe it will be easier when my hair gets longer
As a young black woman who will be attending cosmetology school soon it breaks me to hear stories where women are not treated right to get their hair done let alone hair stylists not having their license or educating themselves on different hair texture and hair care😐I never went to a salon and only had my mom did my hair my whole life and still to this day, so I can’t personally say I had bad experiences. But even my mom went to school and knows what she’s doing. I think it’s just ppl not being licensed or even educated to take care of their clients and know the dangers of their hair/nails/etc.
They have so many rules,crazy prices, don't even educate you how to keep your hair healthy and then expect a tip! Glad you touched on the ones who feel entitled to film you. If I say no, don't get an attitude or try to charge me extra out of spite. I hate these new "stylists".
My fave hair salon is owned by 2 sisters who went to my high school. They’re so professional and skilled! They restored my faith in new school stylists. So thankful!
I’m noticing that a lot of ppl think things have disappeared because they’re not seeing it on social media. I saw the same thing with people not becoming doctors or lawyers going to college etc. anymore but a lot of people really are. They’re just not posting about it. I think this is the same for professional hairstylists. The older women I would say ain’t hip to going viral on social media so we don’t see them.
Waiting for this comment. I went natural July 1999, maintain the 2 pattern of hair and January 2000 did the chop…..have never looked back. I learned MY HAIR and so happy I did. Have a daughter with long thick hair; God was preparing me I just did not know. Both her and my hair is HEALTHILY because I learned what our hair like. I was tired of going staying all day and ridiculous prices then, I know I would be crazy now and mad!!! Learn your hair!!!
OMG!!! This happened to me! A lady put perm in my hair after years of me being natural and growing it. My hair was coming out like crazy AND it was vone straight. I feel seen. People don't believe me until I show photos of how straight my hair was after I washed it. I took about 1.5 year to get my hair to a decent length. After that I went to another stylist who put too much heat on the hot comb so my hair began to fall out again. Now I don't trust anyone to do my hair 😢
I am happy you covered this because my friend and I were just talking about this. I use to get relaxers from the age of 4, same woman had been doing my hair until I was 22, she was licensed and the feels and vibes you get in a black hair salon were all there. 😌 She kept my hair healthy and cared for too. After a bad dye job I decided to go natural at 23 and fell in love with my hair and it’s natural pattern. While trying to find people to do protective styles it was apparent that some of these people were random charging these wild prices for stuff that was $150-200 on a regular day. I started doing my own braids and twists and then I decided to loc my hair about 5 years ago and I maintain those myself too. Sometimes it’s just easier to learn to do your own hair but it’s sad that these unlicensed stylists charge so much and have all these stipulations on their services, like ma’am you are not providing hair or a wash so stop it. 🙃
Yes. I am a licensed professional cosmetologist. Just because of the information you are giving in this video is making me iffy about opening and started my own shop, it feels like this is something I would have to deal with all the time on a professional level, but when I do open and operate I promise to be as open and honest with my business anf customers as the business allows.
Im a hairstylist and im absolutely flabbergasted by these new "stylist" ridiculous. I feel like they have zero passion, terrible customer service and no empathy and all they want is as much money as possible. Its terrible terrible. Ive been doing hair for 20 years and what i see around me today on social media and videos like this is appalling.
I’ve always had an issue with black hairstylist charging more for similar services (wash & style, cut, color) even back in the 2000s. There is no explanation for it that isn’t antiblack when you consider black people in general make less money. So if the explanation is black hair is more difficult to style then you specialize in straight hair not textured hair. You’re literally taxing a woman for having black textured hair. How are you morally any better than a white stylist charging black clients more?
Standards are dropping in the service industry. On the service side, many people don't have pride in a trade anymore. On the customer side side, some people are rude and trifling.
This video is long overdue. From asking for a short tapered cut and getting a man fade. Losing edges over tight braids and bad sewn-ins. Waiting over 45 mins to get passed to another stylist and waiting another 30 mins, I politely left. I am so done. I went natural over 15 years ago, have 3C hair, but it is thin. Some stylist are rude and if you are not coming in dressed like you got money, then you treated like crap. If they have their hair done, they want you to look like a hot mess, smile, and tip. I am so tired of the mistreatment by some of my own people. From my experience: Best cut by a white women in Idaho, best press and style by Korean man in South Korea, best braids by Korean women in South Korea, best curl set by a black woman in rural Georgia, best Latoya Luckett look-like glue-in by a Black man in Colorado (but he took a break to shoot dice). I have and will continue to do my own hair. Until this video, I did not know it was this bad for a majority of other black women. Dang shame when some of us can do each other better, but choose not to. Thank you for this video 🫶🏾😊
I am telling you, to many wanna be stylist that don't know how to style, their cuts are sloppy, they try to give you the quickest easiest hair style so they can go, bad sew INS, braids average looking. There is a reason why the young girls today are rocking lacefronts and styling their own lacefronts and making them look natural while growing their own hair.. I noticed back in the 80's and 90's we used to have black owned beauty salons on every street corner of the city. Now there are not any. But their are ton of Mexican owned beauty salons. I was just asking myself last year what happened to the black owned beauty salon, is everybody doing it out their house? But now I know why. Most are not good and too high.
I'm 39 and have been to the salon twice. I won't waste my money in these salons. I do my nails at the salon only when I have an even. Otherwise, i paint them myself. Be smart with your money!
The Dominicans did the same thing to me... my hair has been natural for over 20 years and they ruined if with perm in the shampoo or conditioner in one wash. My hair was falling out, etc. I had to roller set my hair for a long time until my curls came back. I never got my hair blew out professionally again. I do it myself now.
I'm so glad to have grown up in the era where the hair salon was the place to be. It was such an experience and remember being in the salon watching my mom get her hair done. This whole thing with the stylist on social media really blew up during the pandemic but started when I was in college and the behavior and entitlement of these "stylists" are too much. I guess I'm a little old school because I would rather go to a salon and get my hair done by a licensed stylist than get one of these ppl off of social media.
I remember one stylist who went viral in Tampa was unprofessional as heck. On her website it said if your hair in 4c she cannot do it, you have to come already washed. For basic crochet braids she charged $300. I thought it was insane. She told me she couldnt do my hair cause of my hair being 4c. I was like then youre not a real stylist. Everything about her is unprofessional. Another issue was her hair salon was out of her house and her house wasnt in a good area. So you expect us to risk our lives going to your house, expect us to come already washed, charged these high zza prices knowing theres a chance that you cant do my hair cause its 4c??? What a joke. She took down her website now cause of the backlash she gotten😂😂😂😂
Florida for black hair is unbelievable. The attitude is UNREAL! The first time I tried to get my hair done, I arrive with the stylist (on the phone) waving me towards her chair. She took out the hair, started layering separating it. I asked her if she understood what I wanted. She snarled you sent me a picture and I agreed, right? Then she started doing some Polly Pocket type hairstyle. I stopped her, we discussed (all the while she never put down her phone) Second round, when I touched the braid, she angrily told the person to hold on and began taking down my hair and said she would not be doing my hair. Mind you, she never greeted me or confirmed the style. The prices in the area are not cheap. So, I have found a reasonable woman here and fly up north at least twice a year to get the style I want. It's hot and humid so they know they have you. I will be experimenting with natural styles. Geeze! Why is it always the black tax when it comes to BW.
Getting your hair done in Tampa was such a hassle when I first moved down there. I currently go to an “old school” hairstylist in St. Pete and she does such a good job with my hair
Why are the prices this astronomical tho? I saw a girl talking about $350 for box braids with French curl Kanekalon. I know braiding hair isn’t 3 for 5 dollars like it was 10-15 years ago. These branders don’t even include the hair at that. So why are their prices so inflated? Maybe because they using so much gel in the braids these days…I know hair product prices are through the roof. That’s interesting though… usually I get it a little bit. Food prices are up like crazy so I can’t find lunch for $5 anymore and I get it. But I’m not understanding why stylists are charging sooooo much more than they were before. Like these prices are so crazy I feel like if they do 3 or 4 heads a week that’s damn good money (about 1.5K and up per week)
Thank you for this video. We are suffering with these crazy prices and unprofessionalism. I am tired of paying a deposit every time I want to get my hair done. These new stylist can be 10-15 mins late or push your appointment back hours but if you come a second late it’s a problem. I am always on time but sometimes these stylist aren’t but I never book with them again because it’s a waste of my time. Great video ❤
I’m also noticing such entitlement with hairdressers now. Like there were always those types but wow the way so many decide your wants mean nothing, they treat their clients like mannequin heads with bank accounts.
I just do my own hair at this point. I had one amazing hairstylist who is also a family friend (with a license, who can also style natural hair) but since I moved away. I tried to go to other hair salons, but none can do natural hair. When I visit family, I make sure to visit my one and only favorite hairstylist, otherwise I do my own hair.
I dont think it makes sense to call someone doing hair without a license a Hair stylist and maybe thats part of the problem. Remember when you had a cousin do your hair - wouldn't call them a stylist. I think the title should come with the license cause it deserves respect. It sounds like these ladies do hair for money - but if they don't actually understand hair and barely want to handle it - they're not hairstylists - they just happen to know a few styles.
I big chopped my hair 3 years ago and I have put so much work and money into my hair for today marking my three year mark for someone to chop off my hair and call it a trim. !! Mind you I have kept up with all of my trims so my hair wasn’t unhealthy. It’s so upsetting smh
This video exposes the truth about the hair industry. Not just in the textured hair community but across the entire hair industry. I would never go to an unlicensed hairstylist period, no qualifications and no professional training. You are right about all the old school trained professional license stylist, they have all quit or retired. I taught beauty school in San Francisco Ca in the early 2010s. The students thought they knew everything and did not want to learn how to do all aspects of any hair services, how act and be profesional in the hair industry, how to run a hair business and lastly how take a humane approach to caring for your feature clients hair. I taught to mainly people of color as are clients were all hair texture and all colors. Now all you have is a generation of talented and talentless unprofessional people with no license or with license running the hair industry.
I became a stylist for EXACTLY this reason over 20 yrs ago. My 4C hair was rarely done right and my colorist would have my forehead stained up. So I learned to do it and got my liscence.
Some of these stylists in the comments section are really in their feelings lmao and you didn't even come for them the way they needed to be came for. making all kinds of excuses for how they treat clients and charge the prices and instead of self-reflecting they're self-projecting, what's going to happen is asian,white,hispanic etc. women are going to learn to do our hair and then start servicing us and are actually GOOD at customer service and not overcharging and then that's when they'll get it
Work lol. I budget to get my hair done cuz it’s a priority to me. I don’t do a lot of other beauty routines (nails, lashes, eyebrows, etc.), so that helps me save. I have a relatively well paying job but it’s very stressful and time consuming. So I’d rather pay to have my hair done and save my time (while supporting local stylists) but it’s gotten too bad for me to justify lately too. Looks like I’ll be practicing more at home.
What salons are women going to? I've NEVER heard this at a hair salon ONLY from braiders . If a Licensed stylist told me that I'd move on IDC how good you THINK you are
Using the word " nappy" that alot of folks in the BC ...is awful.. It's so self deprecating. It's nothing and I mean NOTHING wrong with whatever texture of hair a person has. ESPECIALLY our black women, regardless if it's course, coily, in-between and everything else. There's nothing wrong with our hair no matter what we do so as long as it's healthy. Texturism is in ABUNDANCE...but also self hate, the force of forming to European standards 😒🤨 and lets not forget... The same people who look like you with the same hair(regardless of different texture or not)hating yours..
I’m glad you touched on this topic…3 years later I haven’t gotten my deposit back from a beautician from a last minute appointment that she cancelled lol I just go on UA-cam and learn how to do my own hair now I’m rocking braids done by moi
Exactly. Hairstylists also ask you a crazy amount for TWISTS.... TWISTS????? 2 strands??? That you can do at home in 3 hours, with braids bought at SHEIN for 3 bucks a pack??? This is precisely why Mr Wu gets my money now.
Absolutely I miss those days from 80's and 90's era. Get your hair wash cleanse with cute, beautiful styled will not cost you alot of money to pay for it.
I went to a stylist one time who kept complaining that my hair was “too thick” and how it’s “difficult to manage”. My aunt began braiding my hair, would wash, dry and style it with no complaints, all the while teaching me how to manage it on my own so it grows healthier and stronger. I’ve never went back to a stylist since
What’s ridiculous is that it’s black women who have similar hair textures complaining about black women’s hair. Hair health is so important but some of these stylist would prefer you damage your hair to make it easier for them to style it..
@@iconicallyiconic thank you! Like her hair looked like she didn’t take care of it at all besides putting braids in it. I stopped blow drying and putting heat and perms in my hair and it made a full recovery, I’m assuming she’s only use to dealing with damaged hair🤷🏾♀️
They do the same to me. I finally found a stylist who on my first visit asked me questions about my hair regimen. She made a few suggestions such as washing hair/rinsing conditioner with cool water and deep conditioning regularly to retain moisture and it's made a huge difference.
As a Black woman, I’m tired of the obsession with “done” hair. There’s way too much negativity around hair in general. Women with human wigs looking down on women with synthetic. Women with relaxers looking down on natural. It’s ridiculous.
just my opinion but human hair wigs absolutely disgust me on the basis that the majority of this hair is coming from impoverished women in India and China who get paid the equiv of $1-2 USD and then you pay $200 for the same bundle!
" Alot of the hairstylist don't like black women and project their self-hate onto their clients " Now if this isn't the TRUTH! 😩😩 the way they will belittle and disrespect their clients because of their hair texture screams anti-black and straight ignorance. like one comment said below they don't like us but they don't mind taking our money smh. It's like that Keith Lee situation that happened in ATL because of him critiquing black owned restaurants and mistreating black customers while still wanting black dollars and thinking black customers/clients don't deserve good service and professionalism and then they had the nerve to get mad because they want biased reviews and loyalty just because you're black, like that doesn't make you above reproach
Sorry for the caps but I want this to be seen: STOP SUPPORTING DEPOSITS, and HAIR NOT BEING WASHED!!! Once the “stylist” realizes that they aren’t making ANY money, then the problem will solve itself. Signed a LICENSED MANICURIST!! They make the whole industry look bad
Fellow hairstylist here 👋🏾… part of the problem is nobody has the passion to do hair anymore, its just a quick & easy buck for them, hence why there is no importance in getting their license anymore. When i was in cosmetology school, you can see the girls that wasn’t passionate about doing hair because they would drop out once they got to the clinic floor. Also alot of these “stylists” have ZERO customer service skills, they dont know how to treat clients and how to maintain clientele. I can literally go on and on about why the industry is the way it is now but those right there are the 2 major reasons.
Honorable mention: how easily accessible these clients are to celebrities. They do one D-list celebrity and all of the sudden they are celebrity stylist and now the price increased 😩. Being a celebrity stylist used to require YEARS of being in the industry and contracts.
AGREED!!! it’s definitely a money grab for a lot of people. i think the pandemic had a big influence on people when it came to cultivating a sense of financial independence. it forced a lot of people to use skills to survive or make extra income. however that also created a weird “hyper independent hustle” culture where people who aren’t meant to/knowledgable + qualified enough to run certain businesses feel like they can/should. it goes beyond hair actually. but definitely a large issue within the hair world for sure.
im in cosmetology class in hs rn, and most of the girls don’t really want to do the actual real cosmetology stuff and only care about doing braids or weaves and no other things like, roller sets etc
I'm about to go to beauty school and have an old school salon. Nobody's getting their hair done without getting washed and blow dried first. Plus the prices are gonna be REALISTIC! I'll even accept groceries for my services. I'm being serious btw. I'm tired of these hairstylists. We need beauticians and I'll be one soon!!
Exactly, I’m a Black girl and when I was little, my mom and aunt was my hair stylist, I use to get my hair done by my female family members. And it was fun as shit lol :p
White stylist who went to a multicultural school for hair and had specific classes for Black styles here, a huge portion of our clients as students were Black women getting their hair washed and blown out by us and the number of them who were surprised that I was able to get results without yanking their scalps or burning them broke my heart! The idea that for so many people to associate getting hair done with pain and disrespect, and now on top of it brutal prices? This is a SERVICE industry! If you can't stand people, especially your fellow women, why bother?
My hairstylist and I was just talking about this a few days ago. Hairstylists nowdays are just so unprofessional and unpleasant. I remember going to the salon with my mother when I was lil girl and hairstylists took pride in doing hair and making their clients look good. Hairstylist nowadays is all about money and clout. Social media and pandemic ruined alot of these hairstylists.
THIS! they actually poured love and care into their clients hair. Social media has made alot of hairstylist feel as though they don’t have to be professional because they don’t have anyone to answer to
These hairstylists have to charge so much because they can’t keep clients with their exorbitant prices. Best stylist I ever had worked out of a run-down house in the country, charged $60 for full sew-ins *WITH* a wash and deep conditioner included. How much did she charge to take your hair down: nothing. I gladly tipped her $40+, and she had a very loyal client base.
Well, she had fewer overheads like shop rentals to factor in. This is no always feasible for professional hairstylists. And for every great stylist like yours, there will be a stylist that ruins hair in another home operation. It's a difficult situation.
@@vanessac1721I believe the point was ppl weren't charging crazy prices for kitchen do's (Wrok from home stylist license or not). You should never pay more then $150 for ANYTHING not done at the shop.
Ladies please STOP giving unlicensed professionals your time and money. Most of them are a joke. If they were serious about hair they would go to school.
They charge more for thick coarse hair but won’t charge less for thin hair or small heads. They are literally charging attorney and physician fees over $100 an hr and not saving lives. The worst part is most are not worth the price. Your hair don’t come out looking celebrity but you paying like you are one
Nah, i remember the first time i got charged extra for having natural hair. This is basically a Black Tax?! The stylists were black too. I felt bad for not tipping but there went your tip miss ma'am! Even the assistant who was washing my hair had the gall to tell me to detangle my hair before coming in (girl, why am i here then?) and was about to start BRUSHING it DRY! In the age of youtube, i can't see why anybody would do something that crazy to 4c hair. Wide tooth comb + conditioner, am i crazy?
What do you all think of this? It’s a New salon chain in North Texas called Pressed Roots (black owned from a sister who went to Harvard). They have a detangling policy of anything over 5 minutes of detangling, they start to charge $15 per 5 minutes of detangling. I told them this is a bias policy especially since this salon specializes in straightening natural hair and even more especially since type 4 hair is more prone to tangling up. Not cool! They have no customer service number and I can only email them and no one ever responded to my concern after 3 weeks! Totally rude and unprofessional! But what do y’all think?
We need to just start playing dirty and reporting these establishments to the business bureas or whoever regulates. By law, they need to adhere to and abide by laws and regulations in their respective states for a reason!
Still got old school hairstylist where I live because everyone is old. There is definitely a big difference between the young and old because those prices and it includes no wash…..I usually let students do my hair cause I’m promised everything
There is definitely a difference, so many of them have retired in my city and their shops got purchased as well due to gentrification but the new ones are charging ludicrous prices
Facts I usually stick to women hairstylists 35 and older. My current hairstylists is only 32 but she is very professional and take good care of my hair. I been going to her for about 6 yrs.
Yes the cosmetology schools are underrated. Get your hair done by a student that is supervised and who’s graduation depends on following price during and demonstrating techniques correctly! And the prices are great. (Feel free to to tip them though, since that money goes to the school that they’re already paying tuition to work at. )
These new stylist want us to pay for whatever lifestyle they want to have. From what I observed these ppl also are folks who can’t have or keep a real job and the behavior that keep them from working a relationship job is brought into their business. Im over it
I can’t wait to get my license because I’m giving old school service. I’ll wash you, condition you, offer treatments that you actually NEED to keep your follicles healthy, style you how you requested. I got you on the conversation and refreshments too. And most importantly, I’m gonna be on time which is all I would ask of my client…..that and the price we agreed on
1: Stop going to them 2: report them To report an unlicensed hair stylist you need to look simply type it in and what state you live in. You then call, email, or fill out a complaint. "Are there disciplinary actions or penalties for unlawful or unlicensed practice of cosmetology? Yes. The Board may investigate and penalize those who engage in the unlawful, including unlicensed, practice of cosmetology. In addition to other penalties, which include but are not limited to, the suspension or revocation of a license, an individual may be subject to a civil penalty of not more than $10,000 for a first violation and not more than $20,000 for each additional second and subsequent violations of a law or regulation administered by the Board. For example, any individual, who is not a Board licensee, and performs cosmetology services for payment, is engaging in unlicensed practice subject to a penalty. Likewise, any licensee engaging in practices or other services that are noncompliant with existing law or regulation may also be subject to penalties. Violations, and corresponding penalties, will be determined on a case-by-case basis."
Babe, I’m so glad you’re doing a video on this. Everyone wants to be a stylist, but majority of them don’t know how to do 4c hair. If your hair is coarse and nappy, then all of a sudden they can’t do it. It’s wild. No license, just unprofessional and vibes.
They want the title of being a stylist however they don’t want to do the hard work or actually love what they do. It’s all about money and flexing online
On god a braider was braiding my hair and said out loud she doesn’t like doing hair. She just don’t like doing 4c hair
Which is really weird because kinky hair is easier to braid than loose hair
@@MsElfMannequin Exactly. Our precolonial ancestors were crafting elaborate cornrow arrangements on 4C hair without flat irons, JAM, Blow dryers, or edge control and formed beautiful styles. If a person can't do the hair that most of us have, then they can't do black hair. Period.
Even in cosmetology college, the NEWEST edition of the Milady book has only 4 pages out of 316 on textured hair.
Listennnn. I recently booked with one of these “stylist” and it was only because she did my sisters hair and it looked so good. I had an event that I had to go to mind you I told this lady that in advance, she cancelled my appointment 3 days before!!! and told me she had to reschedule my appointment and I told her no, send me back my deposit and that I’ll be going elsewhere, she had the nerve to tell me that she doesn’t give refunds… girl I told her I have no problem coming to her salon and getting it if she wants to play these games lol and I contacted the BBB on her. I kindly got my money back
As you should
If the stylist is the one to cancel the appointment, they definitely should refund the deposit! That’s basic customer service.
@@silknsatin1325that’s the thing. A lot of these “stylist” have no customer service or even people skills they have no business owning a business because they only care about money
If you charge a client extra for being late then you should give her a discount for starting late.
Everyone trying to make a quick buck and not taking care of actual hair , I miss BEAUTICIANS
There are some good “Old School Stylist”, but let’s not over generalize. Some old school stylist are out of pocket, too. I remember beauticians over booking a particular time, not being on time, leaving, stopping to eat, leaving you under the dryer to finish other people and having an appt time of 4 but not getting serviced until 5 or later. Stylist from either era can treat their clients badly.
The problem is this newer generation is too entitled. The prices for a lot of these styles don't equal at all. The deposit generation or come washed already is ridiculous. Also some people need to realize when doing hair is not their ministry.
I don’t agree about the deposits, if people didn’t scam them so much or back out at the last minute then it wouldn’t be a thing but most of time deposits aren’t over $25 and it goes to your total so it shouldn’t be a huge problem 🤷🏾♀️ ofc some people abuse the deposits so I understand what you mean if that’s what you meant
@@tatiannabaker3943 yeah, it's the abuse of it and extra fees
A jealous BLACK hairstylist ruined my hair last year. She "forgot" to give me specific do's and don'ts for the treatment I asked for. She also gave me bad products to buy. When I left the salon I looked regal. 2 months later my hair was such a mess, falling out, brittle ends etc. I had to wear protective styles to look decent. I called that woman to find out what happened, she went "oh my bad I forgot to tell you...." but she didn't sound surprised at all and gave me a very robotic answer as to what to do. That was a traumatic experience. I haven't gone to a salon since. I understand why some BW only go to non blck salons that do blck hair. That hairstylist kept her hair short, not by choice, but because she didn't know how to maintain her hair. She was so triggered at my hair, especially when one of her male co-workers started going on and on about how gorgeous it looks. I found out she got fired too. I'm scared of hair salons niw, esp. blck ones, I have yet to have had a good experience with them those past 3 years. Last year was the last straw for me. I've decided to learn to do my hair with YT since. 😢
Back in the day, you could walk in the hair salon with a matted afro or a bad perm and walk out lookin like a super model for $45 - $60.
Go into a white salon who has a stylist that can do black hair. It's crazy how much cheaper it is and how good your hair comes out. We have a couple in the UK which I prefer going too more than the black hair salons. It's a shame it's this way!
@ShasstamaHolistics I'm the opposite. I'm white and go to a black barber who also went to cosmetology school. He's the only one I trust with my hair anymore
I’m white and the women hating women thing is so real and I don’t totally get it. Women can be their own worst enemies sometimes. I think it’s way worse now than in the past. I can’t believe stylists are charging car payments prices and aren’t licensed. That’s wild. I couldn’t afford any of that. It sounds like stylists want your hair to be basically done before getting to the salon.
That's really true! My sister and I have 4c hair, and on multiple occasions have had to get our hair relaxed before a stylist will put it into extensions or box braids.
Here’s the issue, a lot of the new stylist aren’t going to hair school and getting a license so they missed out on the opportunity to actually build up customer service skills as well as professionalism. These things are taught in the curriculum. A huge part of being a good stylist is actually having good customer service skills that’s like the number one thing in this field, and also your ability to care for hair NOT just know how to do it. Also, the first thing you learn in school is how to wash and properly blow dry hair, so to have “stylist” not even incorporating that in the service is beyond me.
-a current cosmetology student 💁🏽♀️
That’s actually not it. I’ve learned how to do my own hair due to lack of goof customer service, and someone messing up my hair yet they had a license…. Something’s can’t be taught when it comes to having people skills. There are bad people in every profession. Even nurses and chef can have a bad attitude.
I stopped getting my hair done when i asked for a trim and she cut of 6 inches. Walked in with waist length hair and walked out with bra strap length hair. Best believe Ive been cutting my own hair for 10 years now. Hair is waist length again and healthy as ever. Never again.
This!!! I asked for a trim and she gave me a cut with layers. I do my own trims now.
Yup. Never again. I do my own hair.
I’ve been getting my ends dusted every 4 months. I went to a new stylist and she said I needed to cut 3+ inches off.
Going to the salon these days is frustrating, no one knows what they’re doing 😫
As a white girl this is so shocking and heartbreaking to find out about. I feel as if every girl of every race can relate to having more hair chopped off than we want or just having some kind of hair horror story, but not washing your client’s hair? Isn’t that what hair stylists do first? Applying chemicals to your hair without your consent, braiding your hair so tight that it ends up damaging your hair instead of protecting it, it’s all very sickening to hear. My heart goes out to all you ladies ❤️
All do respect ma’am Yall white women prices be outrageous as well. I have a white stepmom and stepsister. They stop going to the salon
Weird
My mom is a hairstylist and I would help her in her salon. She was always washing the hair of clients, first thing. When she did my hair, that was also the first thing she did.
@Zeelee_1990 she didn't mention cost, just mistreatment. No one deserves to be mistreated.
In addition to the crazy charges , let’s talk about the length of time it takes to get your hair done nowadays I was in a salon one time for almost 4-5 hours for a SILK PRESS and at the end of my service she lets me know there’s an upcharge for an additional $60 because I haven’t gotten my hair done by her in the last 6 months 😭 like that is ridiculous 🤣 we got to do better!
No, some of these "hairstylists" need to be bashed and shamed, it is ridiculous. I'm lucky I found a good person to do my hair every month but some of my past experiences have left a horrible impression on me. I LOVED the intro...took me back!
There’s a lack of black women taking on jobs in the industry everyone wants to climb the corporate ladder. Doctors, lawyers scientists. Nobody wants a humble beauty salon. If they do work in the beauty industry they want to be high profile celebrity stylist.
I mean to be fair people got bills to pay. It’s the economy
@@kikitokiobaberwhite person here. Doesnt jusyify the mis-service in salon industry. The hairdressers are just so entitled and deliberately arrogant, do what they want with your hair and sometimes physically abusive to us ! Un necessary pulling, roughness. Looks like specialist black salons are worse to me from watching these vids..but plenty of this in ours too !
Heard an aussie stylist tell me the training has gone waaay shorter and not good quality. Im now not going back if i can help it. I can understand the frustration.
@@Christina-sf4py my long time family hairstylist changed careers to become a nurse I can’t blame her
I know a Master Cosmetologist who's been licensed for over 40 years and helped shape hair styling as we know it today. She says the problem nowadays is not knowing the difference between a simple Stylist v Cosmetologist. Depending on the state, the latter is held to stricter regulations, longer schooling, a deeper knowledge of the craft, and must maintain more CEUs to broaden their education throughout the years. Going to a licensed cosmetologist is safer. Some of these Stylists want to make the same premium bucks by doing the minimum with less training and knowledge. Not all, but some.
My stylist says the same thing. If it’s a whole bunch of rules they’re usually unlicensed
Growing up in the 80s, 90s and up to 2007 I had this one hairstylist who did my mom and my hair and she was the best. She even did my hair for my wedding. She passed away from cancer in 2008 when I was pregnant with my first child and it was devastating because it was like losing a family member. I remember paying $20 for each serving and, if I wanted my hair relaxed it's $40 and box braids, $60. Now these hairstylists are ridiculous, I wanted my daughter's hair did for homecoming at her high school last year and she wanted the silk press and the salon charged $250 and I was like hell no! I ended up doing my daughter's hair myself and it turned out great regardless. I even do my own hair, just to save money and I cut my husband's hair.
250 dollars for a silk press is insane. RIP for your family hairstylist may she rest in peace
My prayers are with you and your Mom!! I cried when I lost mine!!!
The crazier thing is relaxers have been proven to cause cancer and oil sheen etc contain VOCs. My great grandmother was also a hairdresser and she passed from cancer. Maybe the new price is a shift differential for oncology risk
@@MrArtVein it’s definitely not that. Black women don’t make a peep about the dangers of all of those products and fumes. They are on a major bag chase to the point that it’s scary.
I stopped going to the salons years ago, stopped in 2012. It’s been bad for a while. They are rude. Make you wait. Charge too much. Put chemicals in your hair you don’t want. Burn your scalp. I won’t take my daughter to a salon to protect her from this drama. Now to hear many people are not even licensed. Horrible! And my husband says barbers do similar things.
I keep my hair natural. Never had a perm. No braids or weaves. I can’t wait until trends change and all this fake nails, hair etc is out of fashion. I look forward to us black women enjoying our natural hair and looks!
Spot on! And don't forget that most of them aren't even licensed. Ridiculous
as an Ethiopian🇪🇹 born in 🇨🇦i was shocked when hairstylists make you wash and blowdry at home! in Ethiopia it is common knowledge that the hairstylist obviously washes your hair!! thats why in canada i always go to Ethiopian/Eritrean stylists! they do you so well yall and arent expensive!
Exactly 💯 I can't stand the wash and blow dry before you come. Like I am paying for a service not paying to do half the work myself. Plus, a real hairstylist will wash your hair to make sure it's clean before using their tools.
Growing up they always wash ur hair my mother was a stylist and I’m I was so accustomed to that but wen I started going to other ppl it was like they wanted u to do the work with the full pay or especially if you got 4c and go to a non black stylist they would ask you to perm your hair before you come like tf
I understand what you're saying but at the same time I wouldn't recommend using their salon shampoos some conditioners because they're not natural for natural hair that's why I stopped washing my own hair at the salon before getting it done because a lot of the stuff that they used even if they claim to know how to are to have natural hair products for hair it's not really the case so I can understand that part but as for me I go to a traditional I'm African hair breeding salon and I've been going there 45 years and I had a traumatic experience prior to going there before about 10 years earlier Before I started going to this one but I wash my own hair before I go to a salon to get it braided twisted and/or I don't need to braids and twists that's it that's the only style I do or I say crochet braids and I can understand some of their price things for regular box braids for me as 120 for small Swiss that's like It's 1:06ty 2170 for crochet it may be a little bit more but it's not so over the top where I can't afford it but I'd rather wash my own hair With my own shampoo's conditioners I don't even blow dry my hair myself because that also doesn't keep your hair moisturized
She put PERM in the CONDITIONER??!!! WHAT
I would have cried
To me the salon was another form of women bonding and coming together. I also feel the stylist actually LOVED doing hair. & will love it so much that depending on your circumstances they may do something for you free of charge. They damn sure would never charge you over $100.00 for a press and curl, blow out, touch up etc. (unless you were getting a certain hairstyle that will require extra hair & longer hours).Especially if they worked in the community where you know that’s not affordable for customers. Especially for single moms with daughters who need their hair done as well. One customer should not be paying your whole car note.& there was no such thing as a deposit . Just call & ask for availability. If you need to reschedule just say the word. Lastly, they would NEVER risk their license or business by telling you to come with your hair washed & blown out. A real professional will tell you that most customers look forward to the hair washing because it’s cathartic. Little do these current so called stylists know that is what really keeps your business thriving and growing. I hope we get back to it one day. Because today’s stylist are just doing it for the money.
Another thing I noticed is that these new "hairstylists" always use gel and i don't remember growing up ever seeing my mom or other black women needing gel to make neat parts. Another thing i hate i them asking for you to come to the salon with your hair blowdried but it can't have any products (creams or oils) and for me not using any products before blow drying it would destroy my hair. I've done it once and my scalp was terribly dry and never again after that. Why can't they braid without gel?? And is your grip that bad that you can't braid with a moisturized hair?? It's so stupid
yep. when my mom did my hair when i was a little i always remember her using that blue magic to do my braids!
In the 80's I paid $20.oo every two weeks for press and curls. Today I dare to style my own hair
Yeah I believe a press and curl in my area is between $50-$60 now.
I'm lucky enough to still have an old-school licensed beautician. And she is very respectable ❤
Thank you for speaking on this. I had to stop going to black salons unfortunately. I go to black stylists in mixed salons. Instead of a $65-$120 for a flat iron I'm charged $35. Braids are usually $100 to $200 with a wash included. My youngest daughter has locs and those salon rules were ridiculous. I had to pay $120 for retwists every 2-3 weeks. If you have to cancel it's a $45 charge. I found a big name salon with a black stylists for her too. There's no take down fee or cancellation fees. The price for retwists is $60. So, I give a nice tip to the stylist because of the lower prices and it's still cheaper. I literally can ball out and give a 20 or 30 dollar tip. It's still cheaper! I have gone to upscale beauty schools sometimes as well and had a very good experience. I just don't understand why the blk salons do this. I'd much rather go there and have all my money go to them. Unfortunately, it's just robbery to me. Especially if you can go to a high end salon that serves mixed clientele with all hair types and get charged less while being treated like Queen. They bring you water and some offer wine sometimes. It's a wonderful experience. I really wish we could get it together and treat ourselves like that. It's sad to me. 😢
Universal same in France
Where are you located and the name of the salon please?
Thank you for this video I'm getting tired of professional hairstylists overcharging me $170-$190 for a silk press and different hairstyles hell nah i feel like I'm being ripped off in general I'm not happy anymore i can't get my nails done anymore
Welp I finally got fed up and now do my own trims. One time I washed, treated, blow dried, and pressed my hair then went to a stylist around the corner to get a trim. I really just needed the ends dusted no more than 1 inch. I didn’t have an appointment because I wasn’t expecting to need a trim until I saw my ends when I pressed it. Anyway, the stylist was so appalled that I didn’t have an appointment and publicly embarrassed me in her salon. If she said she couldn’t take me with an ounce of kindness I wouldn’t mind because I get it, I didn’t have an appointment. But it was the stink attitude and ghetto behavior that turned me off. Mind you, I’m not a new client and I’ve sat in her chair multiple times. That day I decided I will never go to a hairstylist again. Why? Because I went across the street to another salon and was laughed at and they sent me next door to a Korean salon. I have type 4 hair btw. The woman couldn’t even understand me when I said “trim”. That was the final straw for me. The humiliation by black women was enough for me to never look back. They could’ve declined me kindly and I would go my merry way. And book an appointment. I miss the days when you could walk into a salon and leave feeling good and beautiful. These new stylist don’t care anything about that. They yank your hair out, humiliate you, require tips, and up-charge for everything. I’m through with them!
I bet they was black. I know for a fact they was
@@hellothere8347 oh absolutely that’s what made it hurt more. The Korean lady was nicer than them.
These new school hair stylists base their prices on the Instagram baddie lifestyle they want to have, not the actual service. I also think prejudice & self-hate has a lot to do with it as well. I think inflation is a pathetic excuse. They're charging more but doing less. Makes no sense. The most I'd be willing to pay for boho knotless braids is $300, & that's only if the hair is included. They're cute, but they're not that cute lol.
I wish ya'll would find me...I'm a good stylist prices $42-$50 wash & finish (silk press)....products coming soon for elasticity & moisture $10 &up (products & hair treatments) natural botanical oil relaxers $65 haircuts $25 ...❤️...these shop owners want u to b established too...u can't "sit" & wait for walk-ins cuz it looks like e'rbody got a Wig, braids or some dreads.. so black women natural cuz they lazy & need to comb their hair...mine was damaged, so I get it braided...every 6 weeks take down to rest 3 weeks & do again..braid different ways to avoid demarcation (sp), clip ends every 6 weeks, use oils for moisture, conditioning masks, shampoo w/cleansing scalp elements & watch it grow....❤️
Thissssss
Side hustles didnt come with a customer service manual smh
None of these mfs can get money out of me.
I do my own everything except my braids... and when i get back into aviation, im flying to Africa to get my hair braided
We’re you a pilot before
I'm glad I'm not the only one baffled at these stylists taking deposits, keeping those deposits no matter what, and charging you for the haircut even if you end up not being able to show up. The main reason I believe they still do this is because they have a social media following that defends them and makes excuses for them.
Let's not talk about the hours that they keep now. Monday through Friday 8:00 to 5:00 p.m. no Saturdays. When did I have to start leaving work early to go get my hair done? I remember stylist would have appointments all the way up until 6:00 or 6:30 p.m. depending on the day. It is so unnecessarily difficult now to find someone to do your hair.
Oh a lot ain’t open on Mondays now.
This! My stylist had the nerve to only be open 8 to 3. I work a 9 to 5 job. I only got to see her twice a year because I couldn't afford to take the time off work. I stopped going and learned to take care of it myself for a while.
I do my own hair because I am tired of these so “called stylists “ playing in my head.
Your first mistake was going to a Dominican salon. I never understood why black women would ever go to them. There is an anti-blackness in their culture, which will impact how they treat our hair. I am aware that this is changing in the Dominican community, although it is recent.
Regarding the new black hair installers, I can't call someone who won't wash your hair a hairdresser. They are allowed to charge any price they want. However, it has motivated me to learn my hair texture. For now, my old school hairdresser is not retired. Thank you, G-d!
Last month, I went to the salon for the first time in 2 years and was charged $250 for a dye job and a flatiron(the first time it was only $100). My edges are now heat damaged and will not return to their natural curl pattern. If I could rock a shaved head, I would because I'm done with these stylists charging a car note for basic services and traumatic experiences.
I used to go to this lady. She was SUPER nice, but did hair okay. I finally stopped going. I returned 3 years later for a cut and she said, wow your hair got so thick, what did you do? My first thought was, not come to you for 3 years 😅 now i do it myself. I Need to learn how to trim better
Trim is so hard. I keep messing up every time I try. I wear my hair straight so I can’t be messing it up. Maybe it will be easier when my hair gets longer
As a young black woman who will be attending cosmetology school soon it breaks me to hear stories where women are not treated right to get their hair done let alone hair stylists not having their license or educating themselves on different hair texture and hair care😐I never went to a salon and only had my mom did my hair my whole life and still to this day, so I can’t personally say I had bad experiences. But even my mom went to school and knows what she’s doing. I think it’s just ppl not being licensed or even educated to take care of their clients and know the dangers of their hair/nails/etc.
They have so many rules,crazy prices, don't even educate you how to keep your hair healthy and then expect a tip! Glad you touched on the ones who feel entitled to film you. If I say no, don't get an attitude or try to charge me extra out of spite. I hate these new "stylists".
My fave hair salon is owned by 2 sisters who went to my high school. They’re so professional and skilled! They restored my faith in new school stylists. So thankful!
i’ve been doing my own hair for over a decade and haven’t looked back since, because the lack of professionalism and quality service is just too much
I’m noticing that a lot of ppl think things have disappeared because they’re not seeing it on social media. I saw the same thing with people not becoming doctors or lawyers going to college etc. anymore but a lot of people really are. They’re just not posting about it. I think this is the same for professional hairstylists. The older women I would say ain’t hip to going viral on social media so we don’t see them.
Ikr? Please bring mindful that there are real people who live whole lives with whole careers without posting; go figure.
Everyone should learn how to do their own hair❤
Waiting for this comment. I went natural July 1999, maintain the 2 pattern of hair and January 2000 did the chop…..have never looked back. I learned MY HAIR and so happy I did. Have a daughter with long thick hair; God was preparing me I just did not know. Both her and my hair is HEALTHILY because I learned what our hair like.
I was tired of going staying all day and ridiculous prices then, I know I would be crazy now and mad!!!
Learn your hair!!!
OMG!!! This happened to me! A lady put perm in my hair after years of me being natural and growing it. My hair was coming out like crazy AND it was vone straight. I feel seen. People don't believe me until I show photos of how straight my hair was after I washed it. I took about 1.5 year to get my hair to a decent length. After that I went to another stylist who put too much heat on the hot comb so my hair began to fall out again. Now I don't trust anyone to do my hair 😢
I am happy you covered this because my friend and I were just talking about this. I use to get relaxers from the age of 4, same woman had been doing my hair until I was 22, she was licensed and the feels and vibes you get in a black hair salon were all there. 😌 She kept my hair healthy and cared for too. After a bad dye job I decided to go natural at 23 and fell in love with my hair and it’s natural pattern. While trying to find people to do protective styles it was apparent that some of these people were random charging these wild prices for stuff that was $150-200 on a regular day. I started doing my own braids and twists and then I decided to loc my hair about 5 years ago and I maintain those myself too. Sometimes it’s just easier to learn to do your own hair but it’s sad that these unlicensed stylists charge so much and have all these stipulations on their services, like ma’am you are not providing hair or a wash so stop it. 🙃
Yes. I am a licensed professional cosmetologist. Just because of the information you are giving in this video is making me iffy about opening and started my own shop, it feels like this is something I would have to deal with all the time on a professional level, but when I do open and operate I promise to be as open and honest with my business anf customers as the business allows.
Im a hairstylist and im absolutely flabbergasted by these new "stylist" ridiculous. I feel like they have zero passion, terrible customer service and no empathy and all they want is as much money as possible. Its terrible terrible. Ive been doing hair for 20 years and what i see around me today on social media and videos like this is appalling.
Where are you?
@nowlaterkiss9811 I'm located in San Francisco Bay area in Hercules California.
I’ve always had an issue with black hairstylist charging more for similar services (wash & style, cut, color) even back in the 2000s. There is no explanation for it that isn’t antiblack when you consider black people in general make less money. So if the explanation is black hair is more difficult to style then you specialize in straight hair not textured hair. You’re literally taxing a woman for having black textured hair. How are you morally any better than a white stylist charging black clients more?
The "beyonce ticket prices" had me 😂.
Standards are dropping in the service industry. On the service side, many people don't have pride in a trade anymore. On the customer side side, some people are rude and trifling.
This video is long overdue. From asking for a short tapered cut and getting a man fade. Losing edges over tight braids and bad sewn-ins. Waiting over 45 mins to get passed to another stylist and waiting another 30 mins, I politely left.
I am so done. I went natural over 15 years ago, have 3C hair, but it is thin. Some stylist are rude and if you are not coming in dressed like you got money, then you treated like crap. If they have their hair done, they want you to look like a hot mess, smile, and tip.
I am so tired of the mistreatment by some of my own people. From my experience: Best cut by a white women in Idaho, best press and style by Korean man in South Korea, best braids by Korean women in South Korea, best curl set by a black woman in rural Georgia, best Latoya Luckett look-like glue-in by a Black man in Colorado (but he took a break to shoot dice).
I have and will continue to do my own hair. Until this video, I did not know it was this bad for a majority of other black women. Dang shame when some of us can do each other better, but choose not to. Thank you for this video 🫶🏾😊
I am telling you, to many wanna be stylist that don't know how to style, their cuts are sloppy, they try to give you the quickest easiest hair style so they can go, bad sew INS, braids average looking. There is a reason why the young girls today are rocking lacefronts and styling their own lacefronts and making them look natural while growing their own hair.. I noticed back in the 80's and 90's we used to have black owned beauty salons on every street corner of the city. Now there are not any. But their are ton of Mexican owned beauty salons. I was just asking myself last year what happened to the black owned beauty salon, is everybody doing it out their house? But now I know why. Most are not good and too high.
I'm 39 and have been to the salon twice. I won't waste my money in these salons. I do my nails at the salon only when I have an even. Otherwise, i paint them myself. Be smart with your money!
The Dominicans did the same thing to me... my hair has been natural for over 20 years and they ruined if with perm in the shampoo or conditioner in one wash. My hair was falling out, etc. I had to roller set my hair for a long time until my curls came back. I never got my hair blew out professionally again. I do it myself now.
I'm so glad to have grown up in the era where the hair salon was the place to be. It was such an experience and remember being in the salon watching my mom get her hair done. This whole thing with the stylist on social media really blew up during the pandemic but started when I was in college and the behavior and entitlement of these "stylists" are too much. I guess I'm a little old school because I would rather go to a salon and get my hair done by a licensed stylist than get one of these ppl off of social media.
I remember one stylist who went viral in Tampa was unprofessional as heck. On her website it said if your hair in 4c she cannot do it, you have to come already washed. For basic crochet braids she charged $300. I thought it was insane. She told me she couldnt do my hair cause of my hair being 4c. I was like then youre not a real stylist. Everything about her is unprofessional. Another issue was her hair salon was out of her house and her house wasnt in a good area. So you expect us to risk our lives going to your house, expect us to come already washed, charged these high zza prices knowing theres a chance that you cant do my hair cause its 4c??? What a joke. She took down her website now cause of the backlash she gotten😂😂😂😂
I’m in Tampa. Share her name and shame the devil.
@mzsbrown2844 She moved to another location either Orlando, Jacksonville or Miami idk lmaoo
Florida for black hair is unbelievable. The attitude is UNREAL! The first time I tried to get my hair done, I arrive with the stylist (on the phone) waving me towards her chair. She took out the hair, started layering separating it. I asked her if she understood what I wanted. She snarled you sent me a picture and I agreed, right? Then she started doing some Polly Pocket type hairstyle. I stopped her, we discussed (all the while she never put down her phone) Second round, when I touched the braid, she angrily told the person to hold on and began taking down my hair and said she would not be doing my hair. Mind you, she never greeted me or confirmed the style. The prices in the area are not cheap. So, I have found a reasonable woman here and fly up north at least twice a year to get the style I want. It's hot and humid so they know they have you. I will be experimenting with natural styles. Geeze! Why is it always the black tax when it comes to BW.
Getting your hair done in Tampa was such a hassle when I first moved down there. I currently go to an “old school” hairstylist in St. Pete and she does such a good job with my hair
Why are the prices this astronomical tho? I saw a girl talking about $350 for box braids with French curl Kanekalon. I know braiding hair isn’t 3 for 5 dollars like it was 10-15 years ago. These branders don’t even include the hair at that. So why are their prices so inflated? Maybe because they using so much gel in the braids these days…I know hair product prices are through the roof. That’s interesting though… usually I get it a little bit. Food prices are up like crazy so I can’t find lunch for $5 anymore and I get it. But I’m not understanding why stylists are charging sooooo much more than they were before. Like these prices are so crazy I feel like if they do 3 or 4 heads a week that’s damn good money (about 1.5K and up per week)
Thank you for this video. We are suffering with these crazy prices and unprofessionalism. I am tired of paying a deposit every time I want to get my hair done. These new stylist can be 10-15 mins late or push your appointment back hours but if you come a second late it’s a problem. I am always on time but sometimes these stylist aren’t but I never book with them again because it’s a waste of my time. Great video ❤
I’m also noticing such entitlement with hairdressers now. Like there were always those types but wow the way so many decide your wants mean nothing, they treat their clients like mannequin heads with bank accounts.
glad I learned how to do my own hair, it may not be exactly the way I pictured sometimes, but I do save time and stress.
I just do my own hair at this point. I had one amazing hairstylist who is also a family friend (with a license, who can also style natural hair) but since I moved away. I tried to go to other hair salons, but none can do natural hair. When I visit family, I make sure to visit my one and only favorite hairstylist, otherwise I do my own hair.
I dont think it makes sense to call someone doing hair without a license a Hair stylist and maybe thats part of the problem. Remember when you had a cousin do your hair - wouldn't call them a stylist. I think the title should come with the license cause it deserves respect. It sounds like these ladies do hair for money - but if they don't actually understand hair and barely want to handle it - they're not hairstylists - they just happen to know a few styles.
These braid prices are ridiculous!
I paid 95 euros for beautiful knotless braids, hair included, but that is here in Europe.
Everything you guys do in Europe is way better than what we tolerate in the US 😢...
@@lizjo7213 I am not sure about that, but the person willing to pay
> 500 euros for braids still needs to be born.
I big chopped my hair 3 years ago and I have put so much work and money into my hair for today marking my three year mark for someone to chop off my hair and call it a trim. !! Mind you I have kept up with all of my trims so my hair wasn’t unhealthy. It’s so upsetting smh
Who can afford their prices? 12:12 this is absolutely crazy, even if I was a billionaire I would never pay that
This video exposes the truth about the hair industry. Not just in the textured hair community but across the entire hair industry. I would never go to an unlicensed hairstylist period, no qualifications and no professional training. You are right about all the old school trained professional license stylist, they have all quit or retired. I taught beauty school in San Francisco Ca in the early 2010s. The students thought they knew everything and did not want to learn how to do all aspects of any hair services, how act and be profesional in the hair industry, how to run a hair business and lastly how take a humane approach to caring for your feature clients hair. I taught to mainly people of color as are clients were all hair texture and all colors. Now all you have is a generation of talented and talentless unprofessional people with no license or with license running the hair industry.
We really have it easy out here in African countries. I feel for you guys 🥺.
Yes I heard! I heard for knot less braids in Ghana its 15 bucks😍😍 meanwhile in the US its $300 bucks😑😑😑😑
Am I the only one that doesn’t like the crisp parts? I like old school brandy braids that are close together.
I became a stylist for EXACTLY this reason over 20 yrs ago. My 4C hair was rarely done right and my colorist would have my forehead stained up. So I learned to do it and got my liscence.
Some of these stylists in the comments section are really in their feelings lmao and you didn't even come for them the way they needed to be came for. making all kinds of excuses for how they treat clients and charge the prices and instead of self-reflecting they're self-projecting, what's going to happen is asian,white,hispanic etc. women are going to learn to do our hair and then start servicing us and are actually GOOD at customer service and not overcharging and then that's when they'll get it
Video felt like a documentary. Definitely told the story immaculately.
Please enlighten me. Where do women get the money to pay for these overpriced hairstyles anyway?
My husband 🤣
They work. A lot of professional black women are the ones paying these ridiculous prices. Nurses, teachers, doctors etc.
Work lol. I budget to get my hair done cuz it’s a priority to me. I don’t do a lot of other beauty routines (nails, lashes, eyebrows, etc.), so that helps me save. I have a relatively well paying job but it’s very stressful and time consuming.
So I’d rather pay to have my hair done and save my time (while supporting local stylists) but it’s gotten too bad for me to justify lately too. Looks like I’ll be practicing more at home.
They work.
its called a job
What salons are women going to? I've NEVER heard this at a hair salon ONLY from braiders . If a Licensed stylist told me that I'd move on IDC how good you THINK you are
Using the word " nappy" that alot of folks in the BC ...is awful.. It's so self deprecating. It's nothing and I mean NOTHING wrong with whatever texture of hair a person has. ESPECIALLY our black women, regardless if it's course, coily, in-between and everything else. There's nothing wrong with our hair no matter what we do so as long as it's healthy. Texturism is in ABUNDANCE...but also self hate, the force of forming to European standards 😒🤨 and lets not forget... The same people who look like you with the same hair(regardless of different texture or not)hating yours..
I decided to go to Cosmetology school after graduating college for these reasons.
I’m glad you touched on this topic…3 years later I haven’t gotten my deposit back from a beautician from a last minute appointment that she cancelled lol I just go on UA-cam and learn how to do my own hair now I’m rocking braids done by moi
If these stylists think they deserve $50+ an hour they need to go become engineers.
Sorry not sorry but yeah they overcharging like crazy for something that is not a necessity.
I saw one charging 150 an hour
Exactly. Hairstylists also ask you a crazy amount for TWISTS.... TWISTS????? 2 strands??? That you can do at home in 3 hours, with braids bought at SHEIN for 3 bucks a pack??? This is precisely why Mr Wu gets my money now.
100%
Bring back salons. The price was the same for everyone and it was a sense of community.
yesssss!!! i miss salon culture.
Absolutely I miss those days from 80's and 90's era. Get your hair wash cleanse with cute, beautiful styled will not cost you alot of money to pay for it.
It feels like everyone just does hair at their house now. I guess renting a booth has gotten too expensive now.
I went to a stylist one time who kept complaining that my hair was “too thick” and how it’s “difficult to manage”. My aunt began braiding my hair, would wash, dry and style it with no complaints, all the while teaching me how to manage it on my own so it grows healthier and stronger. I’ve never went back to a stylist since
What’s ridiculous is that it’s black women who have similar hair textures complaining about black women’s hair. Hair health is so important but some of these stylist would prefer you damage your hair to make it easier for them to style it..
@@iconicallyiconic thank you! Like her hair looked like she didn’t take care of it at all besides putting braids in it. I stopped blow drying and putting heat and perms in my hair and it made a full recovery, I’m assuming she’s only use to dealing with damaged hair🤷🏾♀️
They do the same to me. I finally found a stylist who on my first visit asked me questions about my hair regimen. She made a few suggestions such as washing hair/rinsing conditioner with cool water and deep conditioning regularly to retain moisture and it's made a huge difference.
This is insane. 🤦🏽♀️
As a Black woman, I’m tired of the obsession with “done” hair. There’s way too much negativity around hair in general. Women with human wigs looking down on women with synthetic. Women with relaxers looking down on natural.
It’s ridiculous.
just my opinion but human hair wigs absolutely disgust me on the basis that the majority of this hair is coming from impoverished women in India and China who get paid the equiv of $1-2 USD and then you pay $200 for the same bundle!
" Alot of the hairstylist don't like black women and project their self-hate onto their clients " Now if this isn't the TRUTH! 😩😩 the way they will belittle and disrespect their clients because of their hair texture screams anti-black and straight ignorance. like one comment said below they don't like us but they don't mind taking our money smh. It's like that Keith Lee situation that happened in ATL because of him critiquing black owned restaurants and mistreating black customers while still wanting black dollars and thinking black customers/clients don't deserve good service and professionalism and then they had the nerve to get mad because they want biased reviews and loyalty just because you're black, like that doesn't make you above reproach
Sorry for the caps but I want this to be seen:
STOP SUPPORTING DEPOSITS, and HAIR NOT BEING WASHED!!!
Once the “stylist” realizes that they aren’t making ANY money, then the problem will solve itself.
Signed a LICENSED MANICURIST!!
They make the whole industry look bad
YES
🎯👏👏👏
I started doing that when my hairdresser left for Chicago. I do not entertain such foolishness. I do my own nails and hair.
Fellow hairstylist here 👋🏾… part of the problem is nobody has the passion to do hair anymore, its just a quick & easy buck for them, hence why there is no importance in getting their license anymore. When i was in cosmetology school, you can see the girls that wasn’t passionate about doing hair because they would drop out once they got to the clinic floor. Also alot of these “stylists” have ZERO customer service skills, they dont know how to treat clients and how to maintain clientele. I can literally go on and on about why the industry is the way it is now but those right there are the 2 major reasons.
Honorable mention: how easily accessible these clients are to celebrities. They do one D-list celebrity and all of the sudden they are celebrity stylist and now the price increased 😩. Being a celebrity stylist used to require YEARS of being in the industry and contracts.
AGREED!!! it’s definitely a money grab for a lot of people. i think the pandemic had a big influence on people when it came to cultivating a sense of financial independence. it forced a lot of people to use skills to survive or make extra income. however that also created a weird “hyper independent hustle” culture where people who aren’t meant to/knowledgable + qualified enough to run certain businesses feel like they can/should. it goes beyond hair actually. but definitely a large issue within the hair world for sure.
@@Beeejanaehave you gotten the chance to work on someone in the industry
im in cosmetology class in hs rn, and most of the girls don’t really want to do the actual real cosmetology stuff and only care about doing braids or weaves and no other things like, roller sets etc
@@stvrlightt4670 how was learning to braid for you
I'm about to go to beauty school and have an old school salon. Nobody's getting their hair done without getting washed and blow dried first. Plus the prices are gonna be REALISTIC! I'll even accept groceries for my services. I'm being serious btw. I'm tired of these hairstylists. We need beauticians and I'll be one soon!!
Congratulations!!! I know you’re going to do well and thank you in advance.
@priestlaaris8208 thank you! You can be my first client
Keep going and do it! The community needs this back.
I wish you luck and success ❤❤❤
wishing you all of the success and happiness🤍
The joy of getting your hair done in the salon as a little black girl was a joyous experience growing up for me.
Exactly, I’m a Black girl and when I was little, my mom and aunt was my hair stylist, I use to get my hair done by my female family members. And it was fun as shit lol :p
White stylist who went to a multicultural school for hair and had specific classes for Black styles here, a huge portion of our clients as students were Black women getting their hair washed and blown out by us and the number of them who were surprised that I was able to get results without yanking their scalps or burning them broke my heart! The idea that for so many people to associate getting hair done with pain and disrespect, and now on top of it brutal prices? This is a SERVICE industry! If you can't stand people, especially your fellow women, why bother?
for real! Ive had so many yank my hair - and Im not super tender headed but I've lost my edges !
My hairstylist and I was just talking about this a few days ago. Hairstylists nowdays are just so unprofessional and unpleasant. I remember going to the salon with my mother when I was lil girl and hairstylists took pride in doing hair and making their clients look good. Hairstylist nowadays is all about money and clout. Social media and pandemic ruined alot of these hairstylists.
THIS! they actually poured love and care into their clients hair. Social media has made alot of hairstylist feel as though they don’t have to be professional because they don’t have anyone to answer to
These hairstylists have to charge so much because they can’t keep clients with their exorbitant prices. Best stylist I ever had worked out of a run-down house in the country, charged $60 for full sew-ins *WITH* a wash and deep conditioner included. How much did she charge to take your hair down: nothing. I gladly tipped her $40+, and she had a very loyal client base.
Well, she had fewer overheads like shop rentals to factor in. This is no always feasible for professional hairstylists. And for every great stylist like yours, there will be a stylist that ruins hair in another home operation. It's a difficult situation.
@@vanessac1721I believe the point was ppl weren't charging crazy prices for kitchen do's (Wrok from home stylist license or not). You should never pay more then $150 for ANYTHING not done at the shop.
Ladies please STOP giving unlicensed professionals your time and money. Most of them are a joke. If they were serious about hair they would go to school.
They charge more for thick coarse hair but won’t charge less for thin hair or small heads. They are literally charging attorney and physician fees over $100 an hr and not saving lives. The worst part is most are not worth the price. Your hair don’t come out looking celebrity but you paying like you are one
Facts! I have a small head & thin hair. I'm like, it took you an hour & a half to do my hair, but I'm still being charged $300+ 🤔
My hairstylist charges $180 for box braids Silk Press is $50 and if I want or need my hair washed it’s free I usually give her a $10 tip everytime
Nah, i remember the first time i got charged extra for having natural hair. This is basically a Black Tax?! The stylists were black too. I felt bad for not tipping but there went your tip miss ma'am! Even the assistant who was washing my hair had the gall to tell me to detangle my hair before coming in (girl, why am i here then?) and was about to start BRUSHING it DRY! In the age of youtube, i can't see why anybody would do something that crazy to 4c hair. Wide tooth comb + conditioner, am i crazy?
What do you all think of this? It’s a New salon chain in North Texas called Pressed Roots (black owned from a sister who went to Harvard). They have a detangling policy of anything over 5 minutes of detangling, they start to charge $15 per 5 minutes of detangling. I told them this is a bias policy especially since this salon specializes in straightening natural hair and even more especially since type 4 hair is more prone to tangling up. Not cool! They have no customer service number and I can only email them and no one ever responded to my concern after 3 weeks! Totally rude and unprofessional! But what do y’all think?
We need to just start playing dirty and reporting these establishments to the business bureas or whoever regulates. By law, they need to adhere to and abide by laws and regulations in their respective states for a reason!
That’s wild af I wouldn’t visit that place. What type of nonsense is that. Smfh shut it down chile
Report them. That’s why a Complaint regulation and their license number must be posted within sight.
Wow and I just saw a Yotuber post a video of her salon visit with them. I thought they were getting it right, but clearly not.
Still got old school hairstylist where I live because everyone is old. There is definitely a big difference between the young and old because those prices and it includes no wash…..I usually let students do my hair cause I’m promised everything
There is definitely a difference, so many of them have retired in my city and their shops got purchased as well due to gentrification but the new ones are charging ludicrous prices
Facts I usually stick to women hairstylists 35 and older. My current hairstylists is only 32 but she is very professional and take good care of my hair. I been going to her for about 6 yrs.
Yes the cosmetology schools are underrated. Get your hair done by a student that is supervised and who’s graduation depends on following price during and demonstrating techniques correctly! And the prices are great. (Feel free to to tip them though, since that money goes to the school that they’re already paying tuition to work at. )
These new stylist want us to pay for whatever lifestyle they want to have. From what I observed these ppl also are folks who can’t have or keep a real job and the behavior that keep them from working a relationship job is brought into their business.
Im over it
I can’t wait to get my license because I’m giving old school service. I’ll wash you, condition you, offer treatments that you actually NEED to keep your follicles healthy, style you how you requested. I got you on the conversation and refreshments too. And most importantly, I’m gonna be on time which is all I would ask of my client…..that and the price we agreed on
1: Stop going to them
2: report them
To report an unlicensed hair stylist you need to look simply type it in and what state you live in. You then call, email, or fill out a complaint.
"Are there disciplinary actions or penalties for unlawful or unlicensed practice of cosmetology?
Yes. The Board may investigate and penalize those who engage in the unlawful, including unlicensed, practice of cosmetology. In addition to other penalties, which include but are not limited to, the suspension or revocation of a license, an individual may be subject to a civil penalty of not more than $10,000 for a first violation and not more than $20,000 for each additional second and subsequent violations of a law or regulation administered by the Board. For example, any individual, who is not a Board licensee, and performs cosmetology services for payment, is engaging in unlicensed practice subject to a penalty. Likewise, any licensee engaging in practices or other services that are noncompliant with existing law or regulation may also be subject to penalties. Violations, and corresponding penalties, will be determined on a case-by-case basis."
These stylists want to work on 2 clients per week to pay their bills
This!!!
Oh this is true now that I think about it
I'm currently doing my own hair right now cause my anxiety can't handle these high-school mean girl stylist 😩
When you compare black hair books back then to now, it feels like the creativity of black hair has gone away too. 😢
For sure! The only thing that I’d say is still creative are braids!
Because everyone is wearing lace front wigs.