Who could not love Kiri? Her charisma is evident. Everyone seems to like her. I also love the three ladies backing this performance. Everyone is sooo talented in this ensemble.
Extraoedinary performance of two "monsters of music", so much talent in a single room!!!!.Bernstein himself conducting dame Kiri Te Kanawa!!!, wow, this is sure something to remember for ever; thanks for sharing with us!!!!
There are many people who don’t like the cast of this recording due to opera singers in it. But listening to Kiri’s voice it’s obviously that only opera singer could produce that quality of high notes that music requires.
Try Ingeborg Hallstein's rendition which is just a copy of Carol Lawrence's version. The high notes seem to go even higher. There are German and English versions so be aware.
Just a bit of insight from someone who has gone to music school in the US within the last ten years. Today's musical theatre singers are trained with classical singing as the foundation for good technique. I think it's probably more likely to find musical theatre singers that can handle this kind of "classical light" singing now than there was in the 80s. Several of the MT girls I went to school with were actually quite good in both styles.
Kudos to all that participate and to the writer of this song. Great movie and a song that every girl should know. Today's music and movies are crap!!!!
I love how Kiri has such a huge variety of repertoire, she's not an opera snob, it's amazing, she's such a great person besides being such a hugely incredible singer. Also, i love the french horn playing scratching his back with his horn... haha not quite what it was made for :-P
This was during the recording of a pickup cast and orchestra for the Deutsche Grammofon release of West Side Story - Bernstein conducting. Was originally aired in about 1985.
The song requires a Puerto Rican accent. From Wikipedia: In 1984, Bernstein decided to re-record the musical, conducting his own music for the first time. Generally known as the "operatic version" of West Side Story, it stars Kiri Te Kanawa as Maria, José Carreras as Tony, Tatiana Troyanos as Anita, Kurt Ollman as Riff, and Marilyn Horne as the offstage voice who sings "Somewhere". It won a Grammy Award for Best Cast Show Album in 1985 and the recording process was filmed as a documentary.
Hi leo. I have found the answer. The original lyric said "happy and witty and bright" to rhyme with "tonight". The setting in the film was changed to the day time for the film. The producers changed the lyrics to "happy and witty and gay" to rhyme with "today". This is what Natalie Wood (with Marni Nixon's voice) sang in the movie. Therefore both the "bright" and "gay" versions are official and correct. On the West Side Story site, they are called "lyric1" and "lyric2".
The maestro was absolutely right, of course. He knew that the number plays better to the ear when the tempo is slower as in this performance. And he describes perfectly how other conductors play it "overbrightly" and too "viennese waltzish" in order to compensate for the dark mood at the end of Act 1 with the corpses on the stage and all. This tempo is much more pleasing, and that is how it was meant to be played. Afterall, Lenny did write it, so he should know!
The main stanza is based upon harmonic scheme of Wunderhorn "Verlor'ne Muh", Mahlerian but as Quirino Principe showed, strongly owing to Slavic sources; In an apparently witty "dessert" piece, the Master goes deep to its profound roots.. Viva!
saab. This is what opera singers do for a living. There are all sorts of musicals from WSS, to the Magic Flute, the Mikado. the Merry Widow and Showboat. Not all are "heavy opera" like "Siegfried".
I have to confess. I did some research. "Bright" and "tonight" are the original lyrics. I did think that that the word "gay" came in somewhere, but was wrong. The lyrics are correct as sung by Kiri.
To me, this "take" was not the score used in the movie. I heard 3 big vocal mistakes in the take. The movie version fixed these 3 errors but a new mistake was made when the word "key" was sung. But it's still my favorite movie.
@dannymaestro I admire your talent of watching the embodiment of perfection and seeing a parody. I'm sure you could do it a lot better than these amateurs.
Well in early musicals like WSS there really wasn't much of a difference. For instance, is Porgy and Bess and opera? operetta? musical? it's really up to the listener. Bernstein himself picked this cast for his "operatic" recording. I think they are fantastic with this. He actually wanted Placido Domingo over Carreras, which I agree with, but he was unavailable.
@windstorm1000 I guess that will always prefer classical technique, even if it is ussed in the wrong repertoire, to the "Br'way" singing style or popular singing. Now I understand that there are some popular voices naturaly gifted...but that is a matter of tastes as well. I respect your opinion very much; sadly I cannot say anything about this registration story, but what I hear in this video. I am a Kiri Te Kanawa fan, and prefer her in other repertoirs. Thank you for your note.
Penzance. Did the "queen cat" refer to her wearing of a fur coat? Also, I always thought of Walthamstowe as being "down market". My daughter lived there as came in for quite a bit of racial abuse.
@tenorschofield Thanks so much for the perceptive comments! & I want to apologize for the 'what were you on" in a prev. comment. Working on being more polite on YT--especially when others have opinions diff. than my own--ha, ha. Don't get me going about 'ultranew st. ideas"--ie Chereau & Co.--ha, ha--I've done treatices of this on YT--& crossed swords with others--I'm a traditionalist--why make Wotan into a businessman??? What's the point? And Brunnhilde into a street walker? Bye for now.
@saab900se Why? I think it sounded great. I think people aren't used to hearing healthy voices and people, in general, reject what they don't understand. I wish more singers would engage in "crossover" work. There's really not a difference between the genres, just a time period thing. Both are singing and acting, perhaps Music Theater a bit more dancing. Some people like hearing people that don't scream or wobble.
She was called queen cat because of her continuous smug expression and sense of superiority. "Walthamstowe was/is one of a number of what may seem surprising venues that recording companies use for recording. St. George's church in Tooting is another. .
Kiri has never described herself as a "diva". She called them "divers". Kiri always has a self effacing sense of humor. This comes across on these videos, and why Lenni clearly loves her.
You've obviously never worked with the "queen cat" as backstage staff at Covent Garden refer to her. The sight of her swanning in to Walthamstowe town hall wearing a fur coat for a recording session was one to behold (Solti always gave his "pets" a fur coat.
@tenorschofield Although I disagree about crossover singers (why do it?? Ego--me thinks so), I do respect your opinion as well. Lets put the shoe on the other foot: Would we want Patti la pone to do La Boheme?? It works both ways--let Br'way singer do what they do best--Br'way, and opera singers do what THEY do best--opera.
@windstorm1000 Dear friend, I agree with you but in the other hand, it really depends in who the singer is.For example, if they have or not the vocal talent to engage into crossover repertoires.I really did not liked some of the Pavarotti`s pop songs, but also migth say that classical singing has everyday less and less exposition, due to the fact of crazy and stupid "ultranew stage ideas". So I understand why some lyrical singers try more logical staged shows...and better paid as well!!!
Rubbish! Who could hate Jose? Certainly not Leni! Kiri and Jose are wonderful and charasmatic people. Their encounter with Leni is a national treasure.
marknyc5, I agree with you. It's one thing to justifiably commend her for her singing, another thing to blindly laud every single one of her performances. She is truly a diva but she is out of her depth as Maria.
@saxamaphoneguy1 Well, actually you are only partially right--B. was stuck with Carreras---Neil Shicoff--another opera tenor-- was committed. Troyonas sounds like a drag queen (no offense). Carreras? No comment. Kiri? voice beautiful--but not for Maria. Moral: Opera singers in Broadway never work--Ezio Pinza the ONE exception.
Opera singers sing opera for a living. Stage musical singers sing stage musicals for a living. Carreras and Ke Tanawa are superb in Mozart but in musicals....oh dear.
You would be quite irrational to challenge any critic in the same way. I am by no means arrogant, nor do I suppose I have talent to match hers, and you would be stretching it very far to read that into my words. I think that bespeaks your rash character and lack of judgment. There will inevitably be some who disagree with my comment on her performance as Maria, and they are perfectly entitled to their personal opinion, but at least they are not at fault of being blind as you most certainly are.
Kiri has a Heaven sent voice - but Imo a powerful operatic voice is just too much for songs that were meant for musical theatre. Almost operatic voices are required for the two leads Tony and Maria - but not this much.
+Margaret Tudor Well, actually if you search the story of the creation of West Side Story, you can see that Bernstein wanted to present it as an opera. So I would think this voices are kind of the right ones.
@tenorschofield So much talent??? Maybe elsewhere. What were you on when you listend to this? Was a miserable experience for all parties--and the most infamous Br'way remake ever. Bernstein took the money and ran. Moral: NEVER use opera stars for Broadway--Ezio Pinza the ONE exception. Two separate voice types--opera singers just not believble voice way, you know??
leo. You are right! Well spotted. She says "I feel bright" and then rhymes it with "tonight" instead of "I feel gay" to rhyme with "today". They did change it. How pathetic is that?
I like Kiri--but her voice is all wrong for this part. The entire production was a disaster and Bernstein smelled a dud. Did make a fair amount of money, but I think everyone connected with this bomb prefers to forget the experience!! I would.
The fact the the composer conducted peice exactly as he originally wrote it says something! Thus was the only time he conducted and recorded it with his hand picked cast!
Well, this isn´t good. Is it a parody or what? Does anybody enjoy listening to this kind of music with opera-singers with just one sound. I feel pRRRRetYYYYYYYYY... LOL
Who could not love Kiri? Her charisma is evident. Everyone seems to like her. I also love the three ladies backing this performance. Everyone is sooo talented in this ensemble.
Extraoedinary performance of two "monsters of music", so much talent in a single room!!!!.Bernstein himself conducting dame Kiri Te Kanawa!!!, wow, this is sure something to remember for ever; thanks for sharing with us!!!!
Beautiful singing by Dame Kiri Te Kanawa, one of the most loved sopranos of the past century!
Bernstein's conducting style was unique!
Wow. What a voice on Kiri.
There are many people who don’t like the cast of this recording due to opera singers in it. But listening to Kiri’s voice it’s obviously that only opera singer could produce that quality of high notes that music requires.
Try Ingeborg Hallstein's rendition which is just a copy of Carol Lawrence's version. The high notes seem to go even higher. There are German and English versions so be aware.
@@jameshom6171 I already have, thank you. But Ingeborg Hallstein is opera singer as well. And she’ s great as Maria in that german version I ve seen.
Just a bit of insight from someone who has gone to music school in the US within the last ten years. Today's musical theatre singers are trained with classical singing as the foundation for good technique. I think it's probably more likely to find musical theatre singers that can handle this kind of "classical light" singing now than there was in the 80s. Several of the MT girls I went to school with were actually quite good in both styles.
we miss you Lenny :(
Every time I listen to this music I keep singing it all day long for several days! And I love it! :D
She is the BEST!! I adore Dame Kiri Te Kanawa!!!!
He was a genius and his compositions will always live in the hearts of humanity.
Oh I love them: Lenni and Kiri! WONDERFUL!!!
Kiri Te Kanawa is the best.
Kudos to all that participate and to the writer of this song. Great movie and a song that every girl should know. Today's music and movies are crap!!!!
it's alarming and charming how pretty she sings
I love how Kiri has such a huge variety of repertoire, she's not an opera snob, it's amazing, she's such a great person besides being such a hugely incredible singer. Also, i love the french horn playing scratching his back with his horn... haha not quite what it was made for :-P
This was during the recording of a pickup cast and orchestra for the Deutsche Grammofon release of West Side Story - Bernstein conducting. Was originally aired in about 1985.
The best Spanish accent in this song I’ve heard.
What a great piece they made..
Kiri is a genius. The great Lenni acknowledges it too.
The song requires a Puerto Rican accent.
From Wikipedia: In 1984, Bernstein decided to re-record the musical, conducting his own music for the first time. Generally known as the "operatic version" of West Side Story, it stars Kiri Te Kanawa as Maria, José Carreras as Tony, Tatiana Troyanos as Anita, Kurt Ollman as Riff, and Marilyn Horne as the offstage voice who sings "Somewhere". It won a Grammy Award for Best Cast Show Album in 1985 and the recording process was filmed as a documentary.
Thanks for your explanation....even after fifteen years ! What a great voice Kiri has...unbelievable !
never seen a horn player scratch their back with a horn before 0:22
This version was just played out on University Challenge a couple of minutes ago.
that's how you conduct. amazing.
A less tired less aging Maestro!
The stylistic contrast in the recording is most clear when Broadway singers do a terrific version of ‘Officer Krupke’.
Wow, makes me want to see it again & again until the Spielberg version arrives. That's going to be slamming for the next generation.
I still love the Original Soundtrack recording and would tag on Reri Grist singing ‘Somewhere’.
04:28 she also looses it laughing...cool.
I love this...
Kiri is the One and Only ❤
amazing
Nice!
Suddenly we have Hebrew subtitles! !איזה כיף What fun!
Bravoooo! Bravo Kiri
Hi leo. I have found the answer. The original lyric said "happy and witty and bright" to rhyme with "tonight". The setting in the film was changed to the day time for the film. The producers changed the lyrics to "happy and witty and gay" to rhyme with "today". This is what Natalie Wood (with Marni Nixon's voice) sang in the movie. Therefore both the "bright" and "gay" versions are official and correct. On the West Side Story site, they are called "lyric1" and "lyric2".
The maestro was absolutely right, of course. He knew that the number plays better to the ear when the tempo is slower as in this performance. And he describes perfectly how other conductors play it "overbrightly" and too "viennese waltzish" in order to compensate for the dark mood at the end of Act 1 with the corpses on the stage and all. This tempo is much more pleasing, and that is how it was meant to be played. Afterall, Lenny did write it, so he should know!
Yes, but what you have to understand is that this particular recording of WSS is MEANT to be operatic.
The main stanza is based upon harmonic scheme of Wunderhorn "Verlor'ne Muh", Mahlerian but as Quirino Principe showed, strongly owing to Slavic sources; In an apparently witty "dessert" piece, the Master goes deep to its profound roots.. Viva!
saab. This is what opera singers do for a living. There are all sorts of musicals from WSS, to the Magic Flute, the Mikado. the Merry Widow and Showboat. Not all are "heavy opera" like "Siegfried".
Compared with the overdubbed movie version from 1961 -- this take is perfection. The tempo and interpretation are magical.
I have to confess. I did some research. "Bright" and "tonight" are the original lyrics. I did think that that the word "gay" came in somewhere, but was wrong. The lyrics are correct as sung by Kiri.
did anyone else notice the flute playing leonore overture no. 3 in the background before they begin?
You could be right. It does sound like that.
this is dame edna everage's favourite piece of music
oh, i'm so relieved...potato patata!
@dannymaestro She's trying to do a Spanish accent, so she's exaggerating the R sound as much as she can.
To me, this "take" was not the score used in the movie.
I heard 3 big vocal mistakes in the take. The movie version fixed these 3 errors but a new mistake was made when the word "key" was sung.
But it's still my favorite movie.
arabic and hebrew tanslation
is it a peace project by music !
West Bank Story.
Those are some pretty raunchy sounding unisons in the sidekick chorus haha
Actually, there was footage from the WSS recording sessions. He was really pissed off at Carreras most of the time.
No, sorry. Copyright issue. It has been released on a DVD.
French and Saunders’ sketch of the opera recording must be a parody of this
@dannymaestro I admire your talent of watching the embodiment of perfection and seeing a parody. I'm sure you could do it a lot better than these amateurs.
Well in early musicals like WSS there really wasn't much of a difference. For instance, is Porgy and Bess and opera? operetta? musical? it's really up to the listener. Bernstein himself picked this cast for his "operatic" recording. I think they are fantastic with this. He actually wanted Placido Domingo over Carreras, which I agree with, but he was unavailable.
@windstorm1000 I guess that will always prefer classical technique, even if it is ussed in the wrong repertoire, to the "Br'way" singing style or popular singing. Now I understand that there are some popular voices naturaly gifted...but that is a matter of tastes as well. I respect your opinion very much; sadly I cannot say anything about this registration story, but what I hear in this video. I am a Kiri Te Kanawa fan, and prefer her in other repertoirs. Thank you for your note.
Penzance. Did the "queen cat" refer to her wearing of a fur coat? Also, I always thought of Walthamstowe as being "down market". My daughter lived there as came in for quite a bit of racial abuse.
@tenorschofield Thanks so much for the perceptive comments! & I want to apologize for the 'what were you on" in a prev. comment. Working on being more polite on YT--especially when others have opinions diff. than my own--ha, ha. Don't get me going about 'ultranew st. ideas"--ie Chereau & Co.--ha, ha--I've done treatices of this on YT--& crossed swords with others--I'm a traditionalist--why make Wotan into a businessman??? What's the point? And Brunnhilde into a street walker? Bye for now.
mark. That's because WSS is an opera.
@saab900se Why? I think it sounded great. I think people aren't used to hearing healthy voices and people, in general, reject what they don't understand.
I wish more singers would engage in "crossover" work. There's really not a difference between the genres, just a time period thing. Both are singing and acting, perhaps Music Theater a bit more dancing. Some people like hearing people that don't scream or wobble.
Who would the first and second be? Pavarotti and Domingo?
She was called queen cat because of her continuous smug expression and sense of superiority. "Walthamstowe was/is one of a number of what may seem surprising venues that recording companies use for recording. St. George's church in Tooting is another. .
im a musician, with a sense of pitch, thats all one needs to know to hear that.
@saxamaphoneguy1 What do you mean that's not what they're made for?!
@lijluvr356 haha no! But sometimes I do use my cello bow as a back scratch... so I guess it's ok! :-)
Kiri has never described herself as a "diva". She called them "divers". Kiri always has a self effacing sense of humor. This comes across on these videos, and why Lenni clearly loves her.
I’d like to hear Kathleen Battle do this.
Battle's is pretty but something is lacking in her performance. Barbara Hendricks sings a wonderful version as well but Kiri adds a lot of charm.
You've obviously never worked with the "queen cat" as backstage staff at Covent Garden refer to her. The sight of her swanning in to Walthamstowe town hall wearing a fur coat for a recording session was one to behold (Solti always gave his "pets" a fur coat.
What's WWS ?
Kiri had really felt Pret
Actually, he loved Te Kanawa, but hated Carreras.
@tenorschofield Although I disagree about crossover singers (why do it?? Ego--me thinks so), I do respect your opinion as well. Lets put the shoe on the other foot: Would we want Patti la pone to do La Boheme?? It works both ways--let Br'way singer do what they do best--Br'way, and opera singers do what THEY do best--opera.
Did you know that conductors live the longest?
A “contracted pick-up Orchestra?” Just shows you need to step up your game when you come to NYC to play music. They sound top-notch!
غريبة في ترجمة عربي
@windstorm1000 Dear friend, I agree with you but in the other hand, it really depends in who the singer is.For example, if they have or not the vocal talent to engage into crossover repertoires.I really did not liked some of the Pavarotti`s pop songs, but also migth say that classical singing has everyday less and less exposition, due to the fact of crazy and stupid "ultranew stage ideas". So I understand why some lyrical singers try more logical staged shows...and better paid as well!!!
Rubbish! Who could hate Jose? Certainly not Leni! Kiri and Jose are wonderful and charasmatic people. Their encounter with Leni is a national treasure.
As beautifully sung and well done as this is, it doesn't match WSS. She doesn't sound like a young girl in love. It's just not right.
Fantastic. But why does she sound like English is not her language ? “ I feel Chaming “ ?? Beautiful nonetheless.
She is singing the song of Maria whose native language is Spanish.
marknyc5, I agree with you.
It's one thing to justifiably commend her for her singing, another thing to blindly laud every single one of her performances. She is truly a diva but she is out of her depth as Maria.
I'm sorry *to his own profound roots
זה בעברית חחחח
@saxamaphoneguy1 XD
@saxamaphoneguy1 Well, actually you are only partially right--B. was stuck with Carreras---Neil Shicoff--another opera tenor-- was committed. Troyonas sounds like a drag queen (no offense). Carreras? No comment. Kiri? voice beautiful--but not for Maria. Moral: Opera singers in Broadway never work--Ezio Pinza the ONE exception.
Its the composer conducting so exactly what he wanted@!
Good that vicious UA-cam critics are always so much wiser than the composer himself. Pathetic rubbish.
Why is she singing with a Greek accent?
Opera singers sing opera for a living. Stage musical singers sing stage musicals for a living. Carreras and Ke Tanawa are superb in Mozart but in musicals....oh dear.
You would be quite irrational to challenge any critic in the same way. I am by no means arrogant, nor do I suppose I have talent to match hers, and you would be stretching it very far to read that into my words. I think that bespeaks your rash character and lack of judgment. There will inevitably be some who disagree with my comment on her performance as Maria, and they are perfectly entitled to their personal opinion, but at least they are not at fault of being blind as you most certainly are.
Kiri has a Heaven sent voice - but Imo a powerful operatic voice is just too much for songs that were meant for musical theatre. Almost operatic voices are required for the two leads Tony and Maria - but not this much.
+Margaret Tudor Well, actually if you search the story of the creation of West Side Story, you can see that Bernstein wanted to present it as an opera. So I would think this voices are kind of the right ones.
so, you know what this aria needs better than the composer himself? nice
@tenorschofield So much talent??? Maybe elsewhere. What were you on when you listend to this? Was a miserable experience for all parties--and the most infamous Br'way remake ever. Bernstein took the money and ran. Moral: NEVER use opera stars for Broadway--Ezio Pinza the ONE exception. Two separate voice types--opera singers just not believble voice way, you know??
Exactly !
Speaking of accent, José Carreras didn't quiet manage to overcome his Spanish one and in my opinion he was not the best choice to do Tony.
i dont like kiri singing this...it doesnt sound the best...i like battle's better.
I agree ; too slow and heavy. Give me Marni Nixon any day.
Its the maestros music. She was encouraged to sing it this way me thinks
Actually, in this case the composer’s choice might be more important than your opinion
@@davidallen508 give me Carole Lawrence any day, Kiri has a lovely voice , but not for this !
This is aural proof of why stiff-as-a-board opera singers should never go near light music.
Pity for her and Carreras. They ruin the whole thing!
Cleanears don’t be a div!
leo. You are right! Well spotted. She says "I feel bright" and then rhymes it with "tonight" instead of "I feel gay" to rhyme with "today". They did change it. How pathetic is that?
Musicians play better without the suits and tuxes.
I like Kiri--but her voice is all wrong for this part. The entire production was a disaster and Bernstein smelled a dud. Did make a fair amount of money, but I think everyone connected with this bomb prefers to forget the experience!! I would.
The fact the the composer conducted peice exactly as he originally wrote it says something! Thus was the only time he conducted and recorded it with his hand picked cast!
I wish she could just sing (dictation) like she talked
If the composer dudnt correct her who r we to say!!!
Ummm...not.
That conductor dead af
Well, this isn´t good. Is it a parody or what? Does anybody enjoy listening to this kind of music with opera-singers with just one sound. I feel pRRRRetYYYYYYYYY... LOL
Might feel pretty but she sure never sounds it!