FFXI Theories - Beastmaster Sub Job!
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- FFXI Theories - Beastmaster Sub Job!
Final Fantasy XI still full of myths, theories, and secrets, even in 2021. One of the greatest of these has always been how the strength of charm is determined when BST is your SJ. There's a large group that supports this is based on the level of your BST main....which would be unique in the world of FFXI. But could it be true?
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As usual I left this one with more questions than answers....and yes I realize this was not a definitive test in any sense of the word haha
Well maybe this will clear up the issue. Bst gauge and charm both use your chr stat. Not your player level. The reason for this is intentional. The bst if maxed as a sub would be able to charm at best a mid level forty mob under a level restriction system. This would make the bst useless as a sub job at high levels. You would not be able to charm anything 60ith level ish under such a restriction subing bst. But by making both skills based on base stats. The guage and charm abilities now become useful regardless of level. This in turn does not mean you will be successful charming things. Just means that your base stats determine the potential chance of charming So think of it like this... if player chr is = or < than monster chr then player has x chance to charm. If player chr is lower than monsters chr then the percentage goes down. Then there is also the issue with how much higher the base mobs level is compared to your own. This in turn also reduces the potential chance of charming just based on the stat comparison but may also add in a success rate failure % if you are not say a decent match or it cons tough that sort of thing.
@@xzanderain You are missing details. Charm success has a Chr comparison between the bst and the mob sure, but there is also a level correction adjustment. the difference is 10% charm success rate per level difference. that goes up and down. cap on charm success is 95%. I was part of all the testing years ago. we have an accurate formula.
The reason people don't know or forgot is that they didn't play bst while charm was a thing. SE has killed charm starting a long time ago.
@@xanuui yeah that was in what i was saying you just said it better. That you get a level adjustment based on monsters level compared to yours. You saying it is a 10% per level is news to me though. Gota say i am not surprised in the least.
WAR is a decent sub......
Until this day; I always felt BST should be on Great-axe. BST always seemed like Warriors long lost cousin who decided to go down the path of nature, instead of a Berserker.
BST should be on most GAs, including the EMP one imo.
This would open up more sc and sub options for BST.
Ukko and Hoof Volley makes light lvl 4 iirc, and Hoof Volley under Unleashed is BST at its' strongest.
It blows my mind that all his jobs are not 99 XD
FFXI is the ultimate alternative hypothesis.
FFXI AH data-heads crunch numbers, only for those numbers to get crunched.
I had a friend who I would farm with in Sanctuary of Zitah, and his BST sub was only like, 20 or so. He would constantly fail charms.
As someone who leveled a lot of jobs sub BST (after taking BST to 75), I know as a sub it definitely works.
Also if you want to test it, it'd take like half a day to level BST from 1-37, test, then 37-75 and test again.
Back in the day bst use to carry a hq light staff just for charm
Since there’s no Combat or Magic Skill attached to charm maybe it’s just a straight Level check modified by gear/CHR. A level check would just take into account main job, sub /BST just gets you the ability.
ya I'd say this is most likely, I'm still mostly curious about the theory that it's related to your BST main level instead of your jobs current level
Wow, I just double checked the wiki's and somone removed the charm success rate formula we posted 12 years ago. and it looks like the ZAM forums have taken down the beastmaster forum as well. /cry There go the references for alot of pet testing.
You are close, but you have it inverted. Charm success rate caps at 95%. It is primarily affected by the CHR comparison between the beastmaster's charism and the mob's charisma. AFTER that comparison there is a level correction. The level correction on charm success is +/- 10%. there is no adjustment if player and mob are same level, but success rate goes down by 10% for every level above the player level, and success rate goes up by 10% for every level mob is below the player. But yes the level correction is COMPLETELY based off your beastmaster level. REGARDLESS of whether its the main job or subjob.
I don't remember what the floored Charm success rate was. It could be 20% like most hit-rate floors... I know we did test it. This is why it was typically impossible to charm something more than 9 levels above you. Your success rate certainly is floored at that point. I don't remember if we tested with aurorastorm or not, but iridal/chatoyant had the posted bonus to charm success rate. We tested the crap out of charm success rate. The formula was not very difficult.
There are several mobs that are uncharmable even though they are not Notorious monsters. For examble: Malboro and Manticores, Large Birds.
My friend leveled up multiple jobs subbing BST back in the 75 era with great success. So I believe it.
Bst us also been a job that not a lot of people have the will to try back in the hay day. solo leveling was very hard and even when they added jug pets making them not take exp it was still hard to party for bst. When I see someone with a 75 bst I image the being like a Buddhist monk or something training for inner peace and that inner peace is 75 bst.
Soloing on pet jobs was my jam back at 75 cap, I would spend hours soloing on bst/smn/pup to just chill. I love all the pets jobs so much. I consider Drg a pet job too but I didn't solo on it alot but was still fun to play with Sam sub.
Bst was an amazing break from everything else. Believe I got mine to 70. I was doing bst trio parties sometimes. Damn it was great. Loved going down into crawlers best and actually feeling in control and powerful vs always at risk.
i had talked to people who got their WHM to 75 by subbing BST and soloing to 75.
I do this.
I soloed my WHM to 75 with whm/nin, farmed Reverend Mail and both pirate clubs! Silverhook took so long @.@ never thought to ever sub bst lol
@@RazaFF11 Ohjeeze, Grats though man, that's some major dedication.
@@shahua And stubbornness and fear of being yelled at in parties! Lol I still have the set on a mannequin in my MH! Whm was my first 75, most of my soloing was done in Xarcabard 45-65 and Cape Terrigan 65 to 75.
I miss the days when charm was used duo/solo bst was insanely fun it's up there with duoing BLM on pets
I remember my party I had at 66 in aht urghan we had a pld hold the Madrid's while we killed the chigroes probably the only other party as bst I had the 1st was in eastern altpha in 30s which I duoed with a taru bst
Kind of wish he played ff14 as well but keeping the mmo i grew up with alive is dope af
Charm has always worked this way. I'm the one who told you about it btw. Cheers 😗 I play like crazy on Eden with this.
If you ever want to try it for real in action my ls does it all the time on Eden.
It's good you did it on retail too
I haven't tested it in retail as it was hard to /bst in parties. But on Eden at the very least it does matter. I thought it would be just a rumor but did test it.
I used gauge on my 35 thf with my bst at 20 and it was nearly impossible to get a solid charm rate. Slowly leveled my bst then gauged and charmed and noticed it increase until it was nearly nominal to my bst. Unfortunately Thf has horrid chr.
So i can't say anything about retail but on eden at least this is how it works.
So i guess you could do the same thing, grab a high level job of yours, gauge a higher level mob one much higher then the level of your bst main. level you bst up till it is comparable and test it once again.
Played with BST SJ on Eden and it was super strong at low level. I was levelling NIN solo and my pet was just letting me engage much stronger mobs than I would otherwise be able to solo with any other sub. Or take on two EP / DC at a time if I was feeling risky.
The reason why people used Chr to increase charm and songs is because Chr is your magic acc/magic evasion stat. 2 Chr=+1 magic acc/magic evasion. At lvl 75 cap there was not much magic acc+ equip available; so increasing the Chr stat was the biggest magic acc improvement you could make. Charm is a ability that relies on your basic magic acc(based off of your Chr stat) and is not like most magic or songs which relies on your skill level+ Chr stat; and why it works the same as sub job(there is no skill level for charm). So charm success must be based off of your total magic acc vs mob magic evasion(I am sure there is some sort of % resist rate just like magic spells).
What makes things interesting at lvl 99+(master levels) is the job trait Tandem blow giving subtle blow II to any job as well as increasing your Dot with whatever dmg the pet does through melee dmg(assuming you are using a similar lvl charmed pet to yourself that has enough acc to hit your target). Tandem strike also gives you acc bonus.
This is my first time even hearing about this.
GO GO Bst sub! Back in the day when Leaping boots were a drop from LL and AH'able I kept losing claim to thfs that would sub war that would just roam around killing lizards. I would sub rng and find LL on scan but couldn't beat voke. I then subbed bst and macroed charm. 9 out of 10 I would get claim after that change. After a while peeps followed suit. Then eventually the ex/rare fix. On a side note I had a friend rage quit the game because he was trying to flex his gil selling Leaping boots to himself on AH. He bought someone else boots because they put it up at the exact moment for less when he went to buy it, was like a 2mil sell which was a lot at the time.
What the fuck is all of that wall of text
It's not that the Light element effects Charm its that Light/Apollo/Chatoyant Staves have Charm success rate+% on them 10% for NQ and 15% for HQ.
Not correct. Charm is certainly light-based status ailment. Runefencers now resist charm by stacking Tenebrae runes. I think light/dark weather affects success rate also, but Its been 13 + years since we tested it, and the forum is gone so i don't remember.
Done nin/bst at 70+ with great results, and duo dancers subbing beastmaster in vulklum dunes is OP .
I've always thought it was an old Tarutaru's tale.
Okay, Charm is a die roll. And this is how I picture it works. Your enemy has a die roll too. The higher level you and the lower level the mob is the more dice you get to roll, the higher level the mob is the more dice the mob gets to roll. Beastmasters level doesn't matter, charm isn't an upgradable skill, you can add duration but the level you are is what level charm is. It's not broken, because as /sub beast you don't get any of the pet commands, it's as good as the charm song. So its useless as sub. They did this way so probably they didn't have to make a charm 1 or 2 or 3 or 4. Left it equal to the players level/chr. Because it's only useful if you're mailing beast
I did lvl Brd/Bst because of brd high natural charisma for low level solo, before I switch to partying.
I solo'd NIN/BST back in the 'classic' retail days from 37-75. Was very slow, but very safe and casual. So to quote Han Solo, "...it's true, all of it ...." (oh I also was going to do RDM/BST back then too, but RDM got invites so fast and so often it was impossible to solo lol
I can see it working as a link to the full job level because anything else would make a pet irrelevent, or it being a mistake, or it being for some super esoteric reason the devs put in because reasons.
I'm a level 119 bst with +1 AF. My charm failed on a crab in boyahda tree. I subbed bst with 119 rdm and never failed a single charm in boyahda tree
so there is always a 5% fail rate on charm. The rate is set into percetantes. BG wiki had it correct, the only thing he got wrong about that part was that you can be so far below the mobs levels on your bsts main level that you have no shot at charming a mob and it will say imposaible to charm. You can overcome this with absurd levels of CHR but even still if the gap is to great it might still not allow you to charm.
Just unlocked BST on Wings today, gonna have to play around with it.
You act like Wings isn't just a bunch of nonsense attempting emulating the game and the real game itself. You know Wings Devs are just people kicked off Eden for different reasons. The guy who made the server was duping gil for christ's sake. All of their systems are just DSP bullshit.
Adorable. Its a great server with caring people working hard to provide a free server that's Era appropriate and stable. Take the hate train back to your server.
Now that the Steam Deck is coming out does that mean FFXI is "mobile"? There's a version for Steam and in an interview they said the OS can run anything Windows would; like Windower.
I've been playing FFXI on my tablet and phone for years, Steam deck doesn't do anything that new.
The worst part about playing bst was trying to farm the monster signa. That NM was one stingy MF, I don't know how long I lived in Giddeus waiting for him to spawn and getting nothing after killing him numerous times.
I've done NIN/BST before with good success.
Merit points take other job levels into account. You get them on one job, they stay for the other jobs. As if those boosts were added to your character's base stats rather than the job. Charm success rate could use your BST level on your character page.
Or it's just like chocobo digging, where it's a skill you have to level up, that isn't listed in any menu. So they guy who did 99 levels of BST skilled it up, and your 49 BST didn't.
Both great points yeah!
Not sure about that. Job specific merits don't carry over, so I'm not sure why a job specific ability would by the same logic. This whole test is very confusing lol
BST was the last job I played before leaving FFXI. I leveled up to 58. Subjob was white mage. I felt like a bad ass soloing around parties. Charm was based off CHR back in the day. lol I had this paddle looking staff with high CHR if I can remember. I de-level so many times and would complain to my linkshell group. One of them decided to level up there character so it forced to not give up. I actual hated that member for doing that. lol Still do......hehe
I remember my classes on Statistics in college, and all the talk about sufficient data samples...... and I'm pretty sure my professor would strangle you :D
haha obviously not conclusive either way, just to get a feel for how it behaves
This quirk is pretty old lore, as far as these things go. /BST with BST at cap has been used for a long time as a solo levelling aid, letting you charm and fight mobs well outside your normal capability.
use 2 people. Leave one person out there targeting the mob, you can then be 100% sure you are targetting the exact same mob for each test
I remember us talking about this the first time in your stream. I can confirm this was a thing, I lived in this era when it was info only passed from bst mains to ppl who were friends with bst. Cause we all know the general pop really didn't care for bst at the time esp at exp camps. If I am not mistaken this was changed many years after but I can confirm it. I know bst who was lvling other jobs solo this way. I even did it with my whm because pting whm was a pain back in 2004-2005. Thats why the rdm/bst gear was sold very popularly "ogre stuff". I know I did a lot of farming solo on rdm/bst.
I was under the impression Charm was 100% based off of CHR, but your BRD was 74 vs 75. That doesn't make any sense lol
In a way, it makes... sense?... kinda?
There are a handful of abilities, that goes in and looks at- or grant a specific value. Like a Warriors Defender, which pops a +25% to the players defense and -25% to Attack, core values that remain the same, but "increase" by overall stats. Gauge/Charm probably looks specifically at a players CHR vs the stats of a monster that can be charmed.
I can't imagine how this would benefit me in situations, where a different subjob wouldn't outweigh the little merit of having a "pet". I see people mentioning being able to solo jobs to 75, but let's say you go THF/BST, cute, now you essentially got a little tank+extra hits on your enemies. You may still take damage during combat, from AoE's or grabbing the monsters attention, now with very limited means of healing yourself.
I did THF/RDM I think, slow and steady, not really worrying about HP, just keeping Regen (at least THF42/RDM21) on and popping an Energy Steal/Drain TP move, easily getting back the cost of MP it took to cast it. Not to forget, all other buffs that you can utilize. - Oh, I'm of course talking about chewing through Easy, Decent or Even Match enemies... not really something that will get EXP chains going, but at least won't brutally kill you if something bad happens.
I see people commenting on soloing other high-CHR jobs, like WHM and such and yea, sure, if you can run down to Valley of Sorrows and get 300+ EXP by having Tough/Very Tough crabs fight each other for a few minutes, there's indeed that.
Again, I don't think it's THAT broken. It would be, if I could go... say, RDM/BST and STILL pop out a special BST pet to match the level of my main job, inside of BCNM like "Up In Arms" and just having my RDM Gravity-kite and DoT that Kraken, while some pet was just absolutely beating it up.
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I haven't play FFXI too long, but I don't see a problem here. Your job level is only a "yes/no" condition, in another words, you can do it if you have the condition meet. It is your stats that truly define your strength. It is just like wearing any weapon in game, your condition (i.e. job level) only decided if you can use it or not, but it is your total stats that affects the damage range of the outcome. It is nonsense to think a lv 30 WAR will always be stronger than a lv 29 WAR. That's my 2 cents.
the basis for this theory is that Charm relies on the level of your BST
but what if that in itself is a wrong asumption that everybody had for 20 years?
what if it does not rely on the level of BST but on the level of your current main job? or even better, what if it doesn't rely on job level at all and only on pure stats (as every other ability/spell in the game)??
This works very well as Blu/bst and allows you to get spells easier
Wish I’d thought of this haha
how so? how did that make spells learning easier? do you mean you can learn them without getting hit by the monster (since the hit is taken by your charmed beast) ?
@@wutsupman2172 You don't need the ability cast on you specifically... I see it as he's using /bst for something to smack on closer to the mobs lvl so it spams abilities faster... Also you're not hurt or using up mp as fast and can heal while mob fights... Long story short it's more battle times/mob JA spam times = better/faster chance to learn spell...
@@redbaren67 well~ will that be any different if you use NPC that you summon instead of beast you charmed to do the same thing?
@@wutsupman2172I can see that... I stopped playing RT many years ago and started playing classic servers the last few years first on Nasomi with a friend then recently (almost a year) on Wings so I haven't messed with trusts but I have done a dual boxing myself with my main being 65 RDM and was lvling BLU on an alt just healing and some buffs for outside pty kinda power lvling... Got the same effect... So yeah it's probably for the classic sense if you don't have trusts and in that case feels like a great idea soloing...
I all ways thought Charm was based on your Current Main job's level and current CHR. BRD/BST and DNC/BST should have about the same charm rate as as a BST main.
I don't know if this is true on retail FFXI, but it is definitely true on the Eden. I use BST as a sub to level ranged attack jobs like RNG, COR, THF at lower levels.
Scholar's Arts shift your magic skills rating in a similar way. You get much higher skill caps on say BLU/SCH than you would from BLU/WHM or BLU/RDM.
I always assumed it was CHR + main job level. I don't think it has anything to do with /bst lvl other than chr it may give when capped.
Sub BST is great for mage jobs, I do this to level my WHM or RDM with my level 72 BST, more then not I'm successful, tried it purely because of this Rumor and I love it.
What if Charm just doesn't care about level at all? I agree it seems unlikely that charm cares about your "beastmaster actual level" for example, what if you were a level 10 RDM/99BST, certainly you cant charm a level 70 mob. More likely, charm is dependent exclusively on the CHR stat (and light element) and perhaps takes into account main job level (regardless of whether or not the main job is BST or not).
This kind of makes sense from the perspective that no job abilities that I am aware of scale with level. As far as I know, any job abilities that do get stronger with level do so by way of a passive trait. Does charm have any passive traits related to it? If not, it does make sense that it is strictly dependent on stats rather than level.
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doesn't matter, AF gear is needed to effectively play and charm, can't wear those as non main BST
It seems like having the BST sub job in particular work this way seems like a good way to make it an actually viable sub job. Could have started that way or changed sometime over the 20 years to make soloing actually a more viable option with BST sub.
Omfg, I have not played this game since 2007 or so. Was BST and PUP main. This was a known fact. There was an instant thing where you solo'ed via charm to make money. If you are 75 BST land the charm most of the time. But is you go BLU/BST Charm rate is max'ed at like 99%. Did this guy start playing a week ago?
I sub bst on most of my jobs. Its amazing. Shippers are your friend.
Always worked that way. Lvled my rdm like this in the 75 days. Tried it both ways too. Lvled my rdm to like 60 changed to bst lvled to 37 couldn't sub and charm anything. Lvled bst to 75 my very first 75 went back to lvl my rdm/bst and it worked great.
Man I leveled almost all jobs to 75 with the sub job of beastmaster
it would seem to me that Gauge's chance of success is probably based on charisma and enemy level, not BST level at all.
While levelling is it more important to a BST high charisma or a higher level? Will a level 69 74Charisma BST have a lower chance then a level 50 with 100 charisma?
This is super interesting. Is Gauge broken? Is it really BST main level-based? Definitely need to look into this more.
It's most likely the main job level. It makes no sense for charm to be connected to the /bst. It's an ability it works the same bst or /bst. There will not likely be any special formula it'll be lvl difference + CHR difference there's no connection to bst job specifically other than to have the ability.
Im on the wings server a 75 bst if u need any help. Venomous. See you out there.
There was a place with alot of undead, I cant remember where, but I had to carry the mats for DEO and and my jugs.
I'm wondering would Drg/Bst work? Having both the wyvern and a pet sounds interesting.
Unfortunately the game won’t allow you to have 2 pets :( which is kind of a bummer haha
I got BRD to 75 subbing BST, had a blast doing it too
brd have a charm song.
may dont main brd if you want to work out the given question.
Why didn't you track it with wide scan so you knew for sure you're picking the same one from the list?
would of lost it via zoning. he would relaly need a 2nd person to help with testing to go more into details. but overall he got done what he was after.
@@douglasjackson9691 nah the mobs are in a specific order in the wide scan list. He could easily just take the third one down or what ever.
hadn't thought of it! forgot the widescan list is static, good idea
I always thought it was based on the stat myself. I mean when I test cure on lvl 1 whm it's like at best 10 lvl 75 mnk/1whm it's like 30. you'd have to have a friend keep an eye on the monster to be sure it's the same or only look for EM mobs. I've never hear of this rumor been playing for like 18 years.
It's a calculation between the char level and mob lvl vs both of their CHR. The jobs main lvl is irrelevant. Otherwise stat boosts wouldn't matter.
BRD can charm with a song. Guage might be guaging that song. Try another job it still works though.
18:12 could've done the tests on those two colibris, it's less room for error. Or use level checker add-on.
Also I believe this rumor is based more of the duration of the Charm than it is of the rate you can charm; this is because Charm is based on CHR vs CHR.
As for the duration of the Charm, it's based on your BST's actual level vs the Mob's level. I do believe people actually did tests for that, probably on the wikiclopedia.
Bards do get a Charm song too, dunno if that works the same as BST charming. I think it's mostly used to get a mob to de-aggro because the BRD cannot command it and it lasts a short while.
Could it be linked to having BST leveled though?
It's cool that you can do tests on the actual server, I think my BST lower level. I'll check it out during the next free campaign maybe.
You should use the /check addon it tells you the exact number lvl of the mob.
That is wild..
... i didnt know this lol and bst was my main!
Charm is completely based off CHR and stuff like light staff. You WILL be able to charm easier on BRD BUT. Charm duration will be greatly reduced because it's your sub job. I think it's 1/2 duration. Its been like this since Day 1 BST was released.
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you were just lazy w/ the research on this video. That's the only annoying part that would make this 'heated' Its annoying when people insist its a 'myth' and 'theory' when its well-documented and proven. and I blame UA-cam for putting this up in my feed even though i commented on it 2 years ago :P
BG-Wiki Charm page has references at the bottom to the allakhazam page where Falkirk, Byrth and I did the charm testing on the test server. The bg people wisely linked to the web-archive versions cuz allakahazm is LONG gone.
The notes and samples are there.
We confirmed exact duration formula and confirmed the charm success rate that lines up with the different messages in Gauge. We also confirmed that gauge calculates depending on both dLvl and dChr. It does NOT consider the effect of light staff, even though I tested and showed light staff's boost to charm success rate.
Testing samples and discussion are all clearly available in the archive. Dasva also did alot of pet testing and posted it on bg forums.
The behavior of charm is not a myth. it was tested and documented. In retrospect I wish I would have persisted to get the exact success rate formula. I'm pretty sure I could and it wouldn't be that hard.
I don't think I've seen any serious /bsts in game.
The test for this is incredibly simple, why are you making it so complicated. You take someone with max level beastmaster, and have them change to lowest level job possible(1 ideally) with sub beast, then go to a high level zone and see if anything is charmable...
Welll I am curious about this one, but I saw somewhere it’s still limited by your current max level job. But def a good test
Makes sense to me, otherwise BST makes no sense as a subjob at all. It wouldn't offer anything.
I mean sure but there are jobs that are super limited as a sub, I dunno if pup sub can summon the puppet, DRg sub no wyvern, just assumed this was similarly pet limiting haha
@@Huntin4GamesChannel SMN used to be a viable sub for WHM for the MP boost and auto-refresh, but those are the old days. Now those are on all gear.
However, I get your point.
@@Huntin4GamesChannel PUP maybe I could see some utility as a sub for an abnormal DNC sub, but obviously you're better off with MNK. Hand-to-Hand DNC is a lot of fun though. Especially if you get Karambit.
Charm job ability success based on charisma, no different than provoke as subjob job ability.
So even if they are 1 lvl apart u will know.
Was it the same level Calibri?
It probably was joy, gauged a few more to confirm they would react differently
@@Huntin4GamesChannel Very surprising.
Squenix should just release the source code so the community can reverse engineer it and have the real classic server we want: They made a fuckton of money with this game for 20 years already, why not give back to the community now?
You work a job for 20 years, any money made after that has to go straight to charity.
If they ever decided to kill retail i could agree. But they make money off it, And could always do so again. Regardless it's not in their interest to do so...
After seeing this it makes me think that charm is purely based on charisma and not job level. Bst is too far gone now, SE nerfed it's command/pet food range into the ground.
Your experimentation is severely flawed.
N= 2 or 3? Invalidates your test.
You didn't guage all the mobs.
You didn't retest with a BST at higher level or max level as a sub.
In the end, it's inconclusive.
It didn't really need to be conclusive when it's already been communally concluded, to be fair.
@@disclaimin it was never conclusive.
Communally conclusive is not evidence.
@@hippopotatomoose It is demonstrably proven that Charm is based on your BST main's level.
Just because we don't have access to the equation, doesn't mean it isn't easily observable.
@@disclaimin lmao whatever. Clearly you know how to science more than me, a scientist.
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@@hippopotatomoose Contrarianism isn't a science.
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