There was a different version of this scene that wasn't used. In the dvd commentary of this episode, Rob said Xena was still outside when she throws the chakrum at a shadow. She didn't know it was Gabrielle. Lucy said she liked that idea better, but they went with this version.
I like that idea better too because it would've dramatically made more sense. Because it would've been more shocking that Gabrielle would've done it and then the realization of the furies that drove Gabrielle to stab Eve so I agree with Lucy there.
Makes more sense. Never understood why Xena, who was at the time not under the influence of the furries, would hit Gabrielle willingly with her Chakram. Even in a heated situation this is completely out of character. So throwing a Chakram at an unknown shadow, just to realize it has been Gabrielle makes so much more sense
lol, so many positive reactions. I saw an interview with the producers about this scene, and they where really not happy about it. The director really screwed it up. Xena wasnt suppose to know it was Gabrielle, she was only suppose to see their shadows from outside and trow the chakram and then be shocked when running inside to see what had happend. However the director misunderstoot and thought, whoah, Xena hitting Gabrielle with the shakram in the head, now thats something new! xD Even Lucy and Renee laughed about it. When Ares went after Eve, Xena gave him a warning, Gabrielle however gets a shakram in the head. xD whahahahaha
But Gabrielle was already with her hands down and the know stuck in Eve, Xena couldn't give a warning shot. Ares still was with his sword raised above his head looking at her.
The claim about directing confusion came after considerable fan anger at Xena's action. Not long after, they (and Adrienne Wilkinson) changed the story to say that Xena witnessed Gabrielle continually attacking Eve and since Xena realized that Gabrielle was under the influence of the Furies she had no choice but to chakram Gabrielle. Xena could have thrown her sword--which was in her other hand--hilt-first to knock out Gabrielle; she could have used the Acme-brand chakram to take down Gabrielle by the leg or her arm. No, the intention to me was clear from the start: Gabrielle had dared to harm Xena's babbie, and the penalty for that is death. The writer of Mother Hood (as I call this episode) was RJ Stewart, based on Rob Tapert's initial ideas. They haven't made Gabrielle more than a millstone for Xena since episode 1 Sins of the Past.
@baraxor True that. And the same with Iolaus, but he was an equal travelling and fighting partner, comrade, and good loyal close trustful buddy of Herc's since childhood. So he was more of a character. Where as Gabby was just there. They were really nothing similar nor had things in common, so I doubt they'd be real friends in reality.
@@k-dogg9086 I partly disagree. In season one you had episodes like The Greater Good where it was obvious that Gabrielle cared deeply for Xena; and Is There a Doctor in the House? which showed Xena feeling the same for Gabrielle. In season two this for the most part continued with the Destiny trilogy and The Price where it was clear that Gabrielle and Xena had each other's backs and there was no doubt that Gabrielle was an important part of both the show and the show's presumed advocacy of Xena's redemption. Once Dahak and Hope arrived in season three, that was pretty much swept out in favor of the Almighty Xena the Xombie Slayer who didn't really need "redemption", and her bumbling sidekick...by the end of season five one could describe the series as the adventures of Xena and her daughter, with a character named Gabrielle who hanged around for no apparent reason.
Men that episode was intense! And That scene in front of the fire place when Xena is basically saying that she is not forgiving her and she is trought with her ... Gaby's final " I love you Xena..." Walking away.... And then Xena tears... Omg ! I remember everything from this scene! Lol
Do you mean Maternal Instincts, or The Bitter Suite which followed? At the end of MI I was so dismayed I turned off the sound on my tv and sat and stared at the silent commercials and credits, lost in pensive thoughts. I thought there was no realistic way X & G's relationship could be rebuilt, and I was proven right (not so much because of what X & G did, but how Rob Tapert and his favorite writers continued to wreck the show's previous format).
The gods could have appeared anytime Xena was out of the room and slaughtered Eve. Heck, they could set the whole place on fire, pulled it apart with a tornado or cursed the town to a pocket dimension. Instead, they kept making slow stupid decisions and forgetting 90% of their powers.
I think it's more so they know they are powerful and like to give mortals the slight bit of hope that they may succeed and then pull the rug from their feet. But them underestimating humans is what leads to their downfall every time.
@@ZestyZinny There's an early episode of Hercules, "The Road to Calydon" where Hera is pissed at a village woman who slept with Zeus. Hera's eyes appear in the sky and ALL the villagers turn to ash. She was presented as a force of nature.
I think the Gods' powers may have been linked to Zeus and Hera as well as the worship they received from their followers. So when Zeus and Hera died, I think that gradually began to weaken them and with more and more of their followers defecting to Eli's way, I think that is what led to a further decrease of their power. Just a theory.. Another theory is that since Eli's God is more powerful than the Olympians, when he granted Xena the power to kill deities, that may have come with an extra set of benefits in the form of unseen protection from the Gods' powers or it could be that Eli's God weakened the Olympians further to the point where Xena could easily take them out.
I love all the drama of this episode but this is definitely NOT one of my favorites. The gods are TOO WEAK to be real! Athens is the only one who fought, the rest look like a bunch of kids with firecrackers.
They only had power when humanity worship in their temples once humans stopped worshipping them and chose Eli way they lost their power making Eli's way of Love more powerful thats the power thats killing the Olympians.
@@deehines5750 was it said in a earlier season or indirectly said in season 5? Because I swear I’ve seen seasons 4-6 a million times and don’t recall them saying that.
@@LilNasXLover There were a few lines earlier that seem like they might've been one offs but tie in nicely ("the gods only have power because we let them", etc..) but it really took root in season 5 with Eli. Eli's message of no longer living in fear was scaring the gods and starting the path of enlightenment which led to the twighlight. Xena explains the twighlight, how the Fates predicted a time when humans would no longer need the gods and they would lose their power. Killing Eli triggered the events that let his message spread and led to Eve being born. It was a self fulfilling prophecy.
Xena didn't know. It's was on adrenaline. She saw Gabrielle stab her and acted on it no questions. Wasn't till after she realized Gabrielle was possessed.
Even if I forgave Xena for the Gabdrag in The Bitter Suite, I never forgave her for favoring ear-chewing Tara over Gabrielle, or forcing Gabrielle to break her moral code many times, or leaving her on the very dubious manipulative words of Akemi. Xena didn't deserve Gabrielle.
The Olympians They only had power when humanity worshipped them once humans stopped worshipping them and chose Eli way of Love the Olympians they lost their power over all the spells they use to cast making Eli's way of Love much more powerful thats the power thats killing the Olympians.
@@dombe985 Yes, but it took her way too much time. People can quickly fall unconcious when they are stabbed by a small knife. Eve's lungs were impaled using a long and thick blade. THere's no way a human could've lived through that, let alone staying concious for that long.
@@astrius4125 People have different bodies. Someone like me would have probably died before even making contact with the knife...But a Roman warrior born of Xena's blood, Calisto's soul, Eli's seed, and Ares training would take much more longer to go down.
Jesus Christ, that one fury! I don't know if the actress was bad despite her best efforts, she was given bad direction, or she was just having fun with the role. Either way, that one character stands out like a sore thumb.
I saw somewhere that originally xena didn’t know it was gabrielle attacking eve, but the producers changed it. I think it was a bad move, don’t think xena would have the guts to throw the chakram at gabrielle’s head knowing it could kill her
In the shooting script Xena sees a silhouette through the window and chakrams. Then comes inside and sees it's Gabrielle. The director changed it, and by the time the creators saw the dailies it was too late to fix it. They were pissed though because it's so out of character in the final version.
@@padawannie Yeah, if you ever get a chance to see the commentaries (theyre on the US DVDs) the creator of the show is very angry about the change the director made.
@@jameslyon2338 I think it's 100% in character. This is rage taking over. She's just seen the woman that was to blame for her son, trying to kill her daughter. Of course her first reaction would be to chakram her. Sometimes I've done things to people I care about, that I'm not exactly proud of, out of pure rage. I think I would've reacted just like Xena.
@@astrius4125 I think it was very out of character. The whole Gabrielle/Hope/Solan storyline arc was done and put to rest. And the fact that the writers even said that this version was wrong proves it.
Why people are so shocked she killed Gabby? Eve was her daughter. Of course her love for her will be always on another level. Level even Gabby won't reach.
Because it's out of character for her to try to kill Gabrielle like that. In the script Xena was outside of the house and saw a shadow stabbing Eve and she threw the chakram without knowing it was Gabrielle. The director messed up.
You can't compare the love of a best friend / lover ( however you wish to see these 2) and the love you have for your child. It's like asking your mother if she loves your dad more then you... it's not the same kind of love or dynamic Loll
@@lisiacoelhobr6001 depends on the mother. theresa knorr tortured 2/3 of her daughters to death. she tortured all 6 of her kids. don't forger the turpins who tortured 12/13 of their kids, only teh toddlers were spared.
Renee O’Connor was in such great shape! Love me some season 5 and 6 Gabrielle 😍🔥
Totally!!
I believe she did kickboxing
My heart dropped when the chakram came back when it came back with bits of Gabby's brain.
Angel of mercy...I noticed that too
Attention to detail 👌🏼😂
Deep stab wound to the back
Xena: “You hang in there; you’re gonna be fine.” 🤣 🤣 🤣
Xena was optimistic gotta give her that 😂
What was she supposed to say, "Sorry Eve but you're gonna die"?
Well you know its not like it came out the other side, you'll survive Eve!!😂
Deep stab wound to the head
When xena hit Gabrielle with her chakram it hurt me as much as if xena had done it to me😟😟😟😟😟
I would bet my life in saying... I think it would hurt you more, if she did it to you.
😂😂
those Furies never cut you any slack, though Xena got some revenge the next season…
There was a different version of this scene that wasn't used. In the dvd commentary of this episode, Rob said Xena was still outside when she throws the chakrum at a shadow. She didn't know it was Gabrielle. Lucy said she liked that idea better, but they went with this version.
I like that idea better too because it would've dramatically made more sense. Because it would've been more shocking that Gabrielle would've done it and then the realization of the furies that drove Gabrielle to stab Eve so I agree with Lucy there.
Makes more sense. Never understood why Xena, who was at the time not under the influence of the furries, would hit Gabrielle willingly with her Chakram. Even in a heated situation this is completely out of character. So throwing a Chakram at an unknown shadow, just to realize it has been Gabrielle makes so much more sense
Renee's acting is on top!
lol, so many positive reactions. I saw an interview with the producers about this scene, and they where really not happy about it. The director really screwed it up. Xena wasnt suppose to know it was Gabrielle, she was only suppose to see their shadows from outside and trow the chakram and then be shocked when running inside to see what had happend. However the director misunderstoot and thought, whoah, Xena hitting Gabrielle with the shakram in the head, now thats something new! xD
Even Lucy and Renee laughed about it. When Ares went after Eve, Xena gave him a warning, Gabrielle however gets a shakram in the head. xD whahahahaha
But Gabrielle was already with her hands down and the know stuck in Eve, Xena couldn't give a warning shot. Ares still was with his sword raised above his head looking at her.
The claim about directing confusion came after considerable fan anger at Xena's action. Not long after, they (and Adrienne Wilkinson) changed the story to say that Xena witnessed Gabrielle continually attacking Eve and since Xena realized that Gabrielle was under the influence of the Furies she had no choice but to chakram Gabrielle.
Xena could have thrown her sword--which was in her other hand--hilt-first to knock out Gabrielle; she could have used the Acme-brand chakram to take down Gabrielle by the leg or her arm. No, the intention to me was clear from the start: Gabrielle had dared to harm Xena's babbie, and the penalty for that is death.
The writer of Mother Hood (as I call this episode) was RJ Stewart, based on Rob Tapert's initial ideas. They haven't made Gabrielle more than a millstone for Xena since episode 1 Sins of the Past.
You mean, "And her sai stuck into Eve." @@lisiacoelhobr6001
@baraxor True that. And the same with Iolaus, but he was an equal travelling and fighting partner, comrade, and good loyal close trustful buddy of Herc's since childhood. So he was more of a character. Where as Gabby was just there.
They were really nothing similar nor had things in common, so I doubt they'd be real friends in reality.
@@k-dogg9086 I partly disagree. In season one you had episodes like The Greater Good where it was obvious that Gabrielle cared deeply for Xena; and Is There a Doctor in the House? which showed Xena feeling the same for Gabrielle. In season two this for the most part continued with the Destiny trilogy and The Price where it was clear that Gabrielle and Xena had each other's backs and there was no doubt that Gabrielle was an important part of both the show and the show's presumed advocacy of Xena's redemption.
Once Dahak and Hope arrived in season three, that was pretty much swept out in favor of the Almighty Xena the Xombie Slayer who didn't really need "redemption", and her bumbling sidekick...by the end of season five one could describe the series as the adventures of Xena and her daughter, with a character named Gabrielle who hanged around for no apparent reason.
1:04 I was half expecting palpatine to poke out of a closet and screech "Dew it!"
Lolllll😂😂 underrated comment
I love this scene and lucy,renee and Kevin are fantastic in it xx
Same
Is that Hope? Wow! Interesting!
I always loved that she can sense darkness danger or evil or godly presence who are invisible
I just finished the episode where Xena gets revenge on Gabriel for Hope killing Solan, that was something! and heartbreaking.
Men that episode was intense! And That scene in front of the fire place when Xena is basically saying that she is not forgiving her and she is trought with her ... Gaby's final " I love you Xena..." Walking away.... And then Xena tears... Omg ! I remember everything from this scene! Lol
Do you mean Maternal Instincts, or The Bitter Suite which followed?
At the end of MI I was so dismayed I turned off the sound on my tv and sat and stared at the silent commercials and credits, lost in pensive thoughts. I thought there was no realistic way X & G's relationship could be rebuilt, and I was proven right (not so much because of what X & G did, but how Rob Tapert and his favorite writers continued to wreck the show's previous format).
RIP Kevin And OMG Hope
Funny he was telling the truth, he does love her
This scene was something!!!
I agreed
Bruh....it sure was
The gods could have appeared anytime Xena was out of the room and slaughtered Eve. Heck, they could set the whole place on fire, pulled it apart with a tornado or cursed the town to a pocket dimension. Instead, they kept making slow stupid decisions and forgetting 90% of their powers.
I think it's more so they know they are powerful and like to give mortals the slight bit of hope that they may succeed and then pull the rug from their feet. But them underestimating humans is what leads to their downfall every time.
@@ZestyZinny There's an early episode of Hercules, "The Road to Calydon" where Hera is pissed at a village woman who slept with Zeus. Hera's eyes appear in the sky and ALL the villagers turn to ash. She was presented as a force of nature.
I think the Gods' powers may have been linked to Zeus and Hera as well as the worship they received from their followers. So when Zeus and Hera died, I think that gradually began to weaken them and with more and more of their followers defecting to Eli's way, I think that is what led to a further decrease of their power. Just a theory.. Another theory is that since Eli's God is more powerful than the Olympians, when he granted Xena the power to kill deities, that may have come with an extra set of benefits in the form of unseen protection from the Gods' powers or it could be that Eli's God weakened the Olympians further to the point where Xena could easily take them out.
@@QilinRider21 never thought of it that way but you make a valid point.
@@ZestyZinny yeah it's a theory that came to me after rewatching these episodes a few times
Xena is a true fighter !! A mother protecting her young is the most Dangerous person/ animal !! Xena was putting in work
i like lucy
Ay Caramba
First thought I had when I first saw this was but that’s your wife ! The second thought I had was ouchie 😟
Sorry Gabrielle 😔
I'm just curious🤔The skill is fanatical here Xena and Gabriel & Xena and Ares🤔
Let's go so people.
Xena and Ares💖
Xena and Gabriel💞
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Gabrielle should know Hope will never do something for helping her! She only care dahak
The way how the furies react around gabrielle !!
2:01 Gabrielleee 😭
It was a smart move for the gods to bring back Hope!
I think the director made the right choice, this whole scene had me shook and spiced up the show.
Gabrielle original costume is back 😍
I love all the drama of this episode but this is definitely NOT one of my favorites. The gods are TOO WEAK to be real! Athens is the only one who fought, the rest look like a bunch of kids with firecrackers.
They only had power when humanity worship in their temples once humans stopped worshipping them and chose Eli way they lost their power making Eli's way of Love more powerful thats the power thats killing the Olympians.
@@angeluvsvid wow I never looked at it that way. That makes so much sense as to why Xena defeated them all so easily
@@LilNasXLover they said it in the show
@@deehines5750 was it said in a earlier season or indirectly said in season 5? Because I swear I’ve seen seasons 4-6 a million times and don’t recall them saying that.
@@LilNasXLover There were a few lines earlier that seem like they might've been one offs but tie in nicely ("the gods only have power because we let them", etc..) but it really took root in season 5 with Eli. Eli's message of no longer living in fear was scaring the gods and starting the path of enlightenment which led to the twighlight. Xena explains the twighlight, how the Fates predicted a time when humans would no longer need the gods and they would lose their power. Killing Eli triggered the events that let his message spread and led to Eve being born. It was a self fulfilling prophecy.
0:20 I'm getting evil green ranger vs White ranger vibes watching hope manipulate gabriel.
Which episode was this? I don't remember it except for Exe getting stabbed.This season was so far removed from the previous years. Kinda sad.
Last episode of 5th season
Season 5 Motherhood
S5 e22
I still haven't forgiven Xena for doing that to Gabrielle
Well it was hope gabrielle's daughters fault
Xena didn't know. It's was on adrenaline. She saw Gabrielle stab her and acted on it no questions. Wasn't till after she realized Gabrielle was possessed.
Even if I forgave Xena for the Gabdrag in The Bitter Suite, I never forgave her for favoring ear-chewing Tara over Gabrielle, or forcing Gabrielle to break her moral code many times, or leaving her on the very dubious manipulative words of Akemi. Xena didn't deserve Gabrielle.
Did anyone yell at the TV when it first aired for Eve to turn around? 😬
My heart sunk and cried when ares said I love you to xena like ship them
0:03 "hello xena."
That had to be the most phoned in line ive ever heard from him. It just screams "Are we still doing this? is my contract up yet?"
Bardzo ciekawy odcinek !
Wow
The Olympians They only had power when humanity worshipped them once humans stopped worshipping them and chose Eli way of Love the Olympians they lost their power over all the spells they use to cast making Eli's way of Love much more powerful thats the power thats killing the Olympians.
It was absurd that Eve survived being stabbed with Gabrielle's sai.
She didn’t survive it. She died. 😳… Ares sacrificed his immortality to bring Eve and Gabrielle back to life.
@@dombe985 Yes, but it took her way too much time. People can quickly fall unconcious when they are stabbed by a small knife.
Eve's lungs were impaled using a long and thick blade. THere's no way a human could've lived through that, let alone staying concious for that long.
But the impression I get is that she stuck the sai very vertically and the place where Xena wipes the cloth is almost in the kidney region...
@@astrius4125 People have different bodies. Someone like me would have probably died before even making contact with the knife...But a Roman warrior born of Xena's blood, Calisto's soul, Eli's seed, and Ares training would take much more longer to go down.
@@lisiacoelhobr6001 You're right, and there is a big artery in that region that makes anybody bleedout to death in seconds.
Hope is mean
I saw this episode tonight.
Aries snd his people are really trying make Xena choose between Gabriella and Eve of course she will fiction out a way to save them
А чого не було 1 серии 6 сезона?
Why are these coming out, out of order 😒
Please upload the fight scene after this 🙌🏻
kind of late uploading this scene
Xena & Ares
Buffy & Spike
Protagonist is having a relationship with neutral people
I don't know what's worse: the Gabbydrag or this... Unforgivable!
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I’m sorry but the most shocking thing about this scene is Hope’s “wig”!!!! AHHHHHH!!! 😨😱🤢🤮😅😂🤦🏾♂️💀
Yeah
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1:44 yeah you're right😂. Poor Renee, what choice did she have, right?
Jesus Christ, that one fury! I don't know if the actress was bad despite her best efforts, she was given bad direction, or she was just having fun with the role. Either way, that one character stands out like a sore thumb.
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I saw somewhere that originally xena didn’t know it was gabrielle attacking eve, but the producers changed it. I think it was a bad move, don’t think xena would have the guts to throw the chakram at gabrielle’s head knowing it could kill her
In the shooting script Xena sees a silhouette through the window and chakrams. Then comes inside and sees it's Gabrielle. The director changed it, and by the time the creators saw the dailies it was too late to fix it. They were pissed though because it's so out of character in the final version.
J E Lyon Indeed! I thought it was the writers’ mistake, but I’m glad they were aware that it was very much out of character
@@padawannie Yeah, if you ever get a chance to see the commentaries (theyre on the US DVDs) the creator of the show is very angry about the change the director made.
@@jameslyon2338 I think it's 100% in character. This is rage taking over. She's just seen the woman that was to blame for her son, trying to kill her daughter. Of course her first reaction would be to chakram her.
Sometimes I've done things to people I care about, that I'm not exactly proud of, out of pure rage. I think I would've reacted just like Xena.
@@astrius4125 I think it was very out of character. The whole Gabrielle/Hope/Solan storyline arc was done and put to rest. And the fact that the writers even said that this version was wrong proves it.
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furies in Gabrielle s head about killing Eve she got stabbed by Gabrielle xena thrown her charkram at Gabrielle s head
Applause for the best episode ever
Ahloa I’m shanebearddj 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
Xena is one of the best character ever see
Why people are so shocked she killed Gabby? Eve was her daughter. Of course her love for her will be always on another level. Level even Gabby won't reach.
Because it's out of character for her to try to kill Gabrielle like that. In the script Xena was outside of the house and saw a shadow stabbing Eve and she threw the chakram without knowing it was Gabrielle. The director messed up.
It was an ok show at the start,then it went homosexual,with the occult and satan worshipping...it went so weird..
But Gabrielle was gorgeous.
One of the many reasons I hate the Eve/Livia saga
Does xena love eve and solan more then Gabrielle also does Gabrielle love xena more then hope?
You can't compare the love of a best friend / lover ( however you wish to see these 2) and the love you have for your child. It's like asking your mother if she loves your dad more then you... it's not the same kind of love or dynamic Loll
Well, it's her kids. Does a mother love something more than her children?
There are not kind of love. Love's one. I guess it's about the connection between people.
@@lisiacoelhobr6001 depends on the mother. theresa knorr tortured 2/3 of her daughters to death. she tortured all 6 of her kids. don't forger the turpins who tortured 12/13 of their kids, only teh toddlers were spared.
What an awful episode 😢 I'd like to think it was a bad dream!
What the hell is going on here on this scene? It looks like the problem here is the episode!
Woulda, coulda, shoulda … an opportunity was missed with keeping Eve alive