If you need more wifi on the vertical plane instead of the horizontal one, you can put the antenna horizontally, perpendicularly to the roof/floor. This omnidirectional antennas are better on their horizontal plane (when they are vertical). It is kind of a donut shape with the center being the antenna.
Guess what? Repositioning the antennae at a 90 degree angle will absolutely NOT boost the signal nor would it help with data throughput . The wifi signal radiates (almost) like a perfect sphere and Not like a straight line, nor a pancake. I totally understand why one may think that because I once thought the exact same thing before I did a thesis on that exact subject matter. These 2.4/5GHz dual band antenna sets have omnidirectional radio dispursement patterns. I hate to break it to you, but even if you bought directional ones, you'd be wasting like $15 each (x6), and the gain would still be negligible. :( Sorry.
@@jaysinblock8182 no... it is shaping like donut... For house that's more vertical, you should adjust the antenna perpendicular to the wall. I did it andI get extra gain from -65 dbm to -55 dbm
Bought this a few months back and its an excellent router. The real reason why i am happy is because this is a rare product that in cheaper in India than US. Finally i didn't have to pay 50% more for a gadget in India.
@@aashishsharma1702 Note depends on ISP, but can be PPPoE if you have credentials (username+password to log in), if no credentials, you just set up as DHCP and it will automatically get IP etc. Note some fiber providers lock connected device to MAC address, so when you swap the router and net doesn't work, call ISP and ask them to release the previous MAC.
@@Masterrunescapeer I told him so confidently because I have the same ISP and have done the same stuff to bridge through PPPoE, but what you said is better in general use case. Thanks for the advice👍
@@prakashm6040 I bought AX5400 around 1.5 years back for around 10k (Now you can get it less than 8k on amazon). I did a lot of research that time and this one suited my requirement (Low latency for gaming, wifi 6, signal strength etc.) AX10 and 20 were having some heating issues reported by several people. I do not remember the details right now but this router has given me no issues so far.
I bought a tp link router a few months back and am super impressed with it. Setup was a breeze (way easier than I was expecting), and I now get all the speed I pay for, anywhere in the house. Pretty sweet.
Similar results with the AX55/3000. I now have internet throughout the house and garage. This router is a beacon of signal. It is staying. Also cut my ping in half, and it was incredibly easy to set up.
A cheaper mesh setup from tp link is a way better match for your house. You'll have good coverage throughout the whole house instead of overkill in the bedroom and meh across the rest.
yeah, i have 5 deco e4 that cost me around $200 can cover our house including the gardens and sounds more logical than "great" wifi router especially there's a lot spaces that you need to cover
Depends what you want to use it for, my issue is always latency at the other end, so I'd rather do a wired set-up across the entire house (which is what I ended up doing, 4 fiber runs to all of them since had to run cable along the wall, CAT cable just too thick with shielding for it not be immediately noticeable, and also don't ever want to do the run again, now it's just SFP and swap out the devices at the ends when need to upgrade).
@@Masterrunescapeer like I said, overkill. What are you using +100mb/s for? What's the difference between my ping of 5 and yours of 3. I would like some higher internet in my office sometimes but even then.
I get the need to make money, but wasn't the idea behind short circuit was about small quick look at products staff were interested in, or at least not a product advertising commercial?
I love TP-Link because most of their devices support the flashing of aftermarket software. I got good reception in a ~1910s european house (some of the walls are made out of bricks, others out of concrete and some of those contain giant rocks from the river nearby as a "filler") by combining 5 20€ Tp-link routers (some are 144Mbit 2.4Ghz N, others are 300Mbit N). Works well enough to provide a consistent 3ms of ping to the router, 0% packet loss and no spikes by utilizing all available frequency channels to avoid stalls and it yields 50Mbit/s of effective throughput (more than enough for the 30Mbit/s internet).
The AX5400 is Broadcom based. No OpenWrt here. It's also mediocre in performance. I got myself the Redmi AX6S for use with OpenWrt after sending this model back.
I have this router and got it for 30% off amazon. It has been bulletproof since I bought it. Great speed, and great range. Software is good also, no complaints.
I've had my eye on this since the video came out, with my old 2.4ghz only router being over 12 years old. I got it a month ago and its range is insane (have it on first floor) I now stuck mesh on the ground floor for pure overkill. I now have 600/800mbit through the house and 400+ in the yard. 10/10 would buy again.
@@harrytsang1501 bricks and concrete. I have the router on the second floor back half of the house and a Mesh thingy with 2 antennas from TP link on the first floor on the first half of the house. Evyrthing has great wifi the only people i hear complain have Sony phones and i recently got a xperia 5 IV and it also has poor antennas sadly. I did turn off 2.4ghz on the router/mesh due to it always having "max signal" some devices wanted to switch to that eventhough 5ghz with 1 bar less gives several hundreds mbit more speed. Edit : err router on first floor and mesh thingy on ground floor sorry im derping hard.
I have a TP-Link Archer router (older WiFi 5 version), it performs really well across the entire apartment, except it freezes up in some cases (where it just needs a reboot). So I'd recommend them, especially if you want some more advanced configuration options.
I've never really had good experience with Archer, two of them kept having micro stutters randomly dropping packets, ended up getting a Tenda AC9, was cheap and actually ended up getting better performance throughout the house. There's something wrong with Archer's software probably .
@@lu4414 it depends on the end-device as well, because if the router is 4x4 MU-MIMO and the phone/laptop/tablet is only 2x2, then unless you’re sharing the wifi with quite a few other people (like 5+), then those extra antennae on the router don’t make that much difference.
If the router offers debugging tools, or has a serial header, you can often view the per antenna RSSI. What the device will try to do is find the ones with the best RSSI, and then further enhance using beamforming. Sadly beamforming doesn't handle height very well, and works best when clients are on the same level as the AP.
Sadly with that type of construction, 8 to 16mbps through concrete is good, provided the wrong type of equipment is being used. For homes like that, I have always had someone go with multiple APs with a wired backhaul for each level of the home. There just isn't much of a way around it, , as the FCC imposed limits that many other countries follow, makes it unable to handle that level of attenuation properly.
Seems like James has never setup a router post 2013 since most features aren't "new and exciting" but standard (especially when you don't use the ISP routers). I have a feeling Linus wouldn't have gotten this excited about the device.
@@agentcrm I get the full 100 mbps up and down from my isp modem/router and it covers basically the entire house. I'm all for better aftermarket routers but when I personally wouldn't even see a benefit to doing so, it's kinda hard to feel like it's necessary lol
@@agentcrm true, but at least here in NZ it’s rare that ISPs give out good routers by default. Most of the companies here charge a premium for a much better router, or if you’re like me, just get a premium one yourself.
@@agentcrm good to hear that Telstra cleaned up their act. It’s funny because a decade ago Telstra here in NZ was considered the gold-standard of ISPs in terms of excellent plans and service, but my cousins in Australia endlessly bashed them there for their shitty plans and service.
I bought one of these a couple days too soon =P Great router. I'm loving it. I have no problem with reception anywhere over both of my houses and no longer need the mesh I was using.
TPlink is some of the worst experience i've had with a router, great reviews, but support on my old archer was dropped 2 years later. Had it regulary restart by itself shortly after that, "fixed"that with some suspicious beta version of their firmware only available on their forums, router kept randomly restarting every once in a while... Went back to Asus and haven't had any weird outages anymore.
Price of network thingis correlate to lifetime of support. Thats why you own router (pfsense etc) pays for itself, just through updates. TP link is good for the lifetime of 6 months...
Can say the same, had at home and at work multiple Archer AP's, the one at work dies every few weeks and needs to be restarted. The one at home died like every few days. Got myself a Linksys MR7350 and never had issues. The only big issue i have is when i'm streaming from my PC to my laptop using moonlight, connection drops a few seconds every 10-15 mins, never managed to find hardware that doesn't have that issue though, so i guess it's interferences or something
Yep. The stock firmware is often crap on these consumer routers. Got two TP link APs from my old employer stating that they were returned by a customer and broken. Flashed OpenWRT on them and they worked for two years until I replaced them with something faster. Got an old unusable TP Router, flashed OpenWRT and it was my main router for years while doing traffic shaping, VLAN and DoS protection with an uptime of over 200 days until I updated the firmware. Currently using an 8 year old 60 euro TP-link router that originally couldn’t even handle 150mbps, using OpenWRT, doing traffic shaping, VLAN and DoS protection while breezing though sustained 300 mbits. Not a single dropout. Oh yeah, if I wanted I could get nightly new updates. So my conclusion is TP-Link: great hardware, absolutely crippling software.
@@Sakredevil It depends on if OpenWRT has official builds for your router, if it does then it is not much of an issue to use (once you get it installed). But if it does not have official builds (but does support the hardware) then you are going to have to find out if someone has decided to do their own builds of it or you will need to compile it yourself.
Love TP-Link. Have it in my house, and put a deco in my in-laws' house. Not to mention the great extenders that can be bridges or APs. Excellent price/performance ratio, and good durability.
Their lower tier products are trash. I had an Archer A7 which was advertised as gigabit but the processor is too slow to actually reach gigabit speeds (even under ideal conditions, i.e. only one device connected via ethernet).
@@TacohMann Ahh... I was hoping to buy a lower end 802.11 AC access point (I forgot the brand name), but now I see why $60-70 access points are not that amazing.
@@TacohMann this one isn't great either, but it's not that expensive so eh. The software is awful and they try to sell you a fucking subscription for simple security features.
i'm in an area with only one decent wifi option, so i'm just here to get totally confused about the layout of this townhouse. i guess it's three floors but they're all pretty small? because otherwise, the desktop computer would be in its own office? regardless the place is fucking beautiful so kudos to james and his wife and i wish them happy streaming lol.
Iv had this router for 2 months now, something iv found is if you want ddos protection, the router has to be directly connected to your isp rather than having the connection passed to it by the isp router in modem mode since the isp router isnt protected.
Holy crap, your upload on 5G on your roof is double what I get wired into my router! Not the routers fault, its Spectrum internet less than 20 miles from the Lenior Google server in NC!
@@jomeyqmalone I presume renting a modem is a US thing, because I don’t believe it’s legal in Australia (modem is typically supplied outright) and I didn’t see it when I was living in the UK, where the modem was supplied included in the contract cost.
@@agentcrm Yes here in the US most ISP that are cable, or DSL based give you the option to rent your modem, and/or Gateway(modem, WiFi, VOIP in one box), but most of them are junk, and you end up spending more in a year then buying a modem, and separate route outright. however I'm stuck with my cable ISP(Atlantic Broadband)Gateway at work because of the VOIP line in the package, but I convinced my boss to let me disable the WiFi in the gateway(Arris) that was causing it to shutdown, and reset itself every 15 minutes from overheating, and get a seperate TP-Link Archer AX1500 router, and it's been flawless eversense. At home I made sure I never rented my Router, and Cable modem no matter how hard my ISP(again Atlantic Broadband) tried to push it on me, and have bought my own Modems, routers, and even MagicJack VOIP devices over the years only upgrading as needed. Besides having full control of your own networking equipment is better security practice anyways.
I just installed its little brother, the TP-Link AX55 in my house. It is really good. I am getting the max speeds that I pay for, with all of my WiFi 5 and WiFi 6 devices I have, wherever I am in my house. My last WiFi router which was WiFi 5 and the 5Gz band would be kind of hit and miss depending on where I was in the house. So I am sure this one is even better than mine. Unfortunately I paid only 20 dollars less for mine, than this one is currently going for.
This router is sick, got the same one here and we love it. Make sure you set the 5G channel properly. There are way too many noobs that leave it at the default setting. The services it shows are paid per month versions, get quite expensive. The tether app is a garbage by the way.... just saying Also there have not been any updates to the firmware.... which is worrisome
I agree with everything besides the app, it's not amazing but way better than opening my browser on my cellphone to use the web app if i just want to see the password or disable the guest network
I used to use the guest network on my router when friends came over. I know a lot of IT people who like to mess with things so keeping them as isolated from my things as possible was a big plus. Worked for a good few months before someone figured out how to hack it and get into the main network and rename everything on my network....... Never did find out which of the two did it, but I have my guesses.
I got the Archer A10 AC2600 which is faster but lacks the new Ax wifi. Imo a good budget option for people who dont care about being future ready but want the solid range. Also it's like 40-50 USD literally a third of the cost.
I can't decide between ASUS TUF-AX5400 vs Tp-Link Archer AX73. The specification is very similar, but I'm interested in stability and WIFI coverage. Maybe someone can share the experience.
might be a silly question but wouldn't it make more sense to pair those up to 5400Mbps on wifi6 with multi gigabit ethernet ports rather than one gigabit?
Well, you're never going to get the 5400Mbps on wifi. The 5400Mbps is just a combination of all streams possible with that wifi standard. Even with Wifi6 you're not going to get above the 800Mbps-mark. Maybe a bit but not much. On those speeds the kind of client-device you're using and a lot of other external factors matter even more. I have a 200Mbps-subscription and I can get that on any device that supports Wifi5. If I got gigabit then the real difference shows. For work I have a Samsung Galaxy S20 which easily goes to 600/650Mbps whereas my Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 LTE (also work) never goes across 400Mbps. It just doesn't. Even with wired options the client-device can be a bottleneck. Had a customer once who was complaining he wasn't getting only 640Mbps while on a wired connection. Turned out that his laptop had a gigabit-port but the rest of the hardware wasn't capable of handling gigabit speeds.
Yeah that reply is accurate. Most devices only do 2x2 streams so a net gigabit is about the speed you'll get. They also tally 2.4G and 5G speeds although no device accepts data from both bands concurrently.
lol i finally bought one i got it for under 100 bucks, and my speeds in basement went from 20mbps to 250mbps with this, and i didnt even upgrade to a wifi 6 pci card yet lmao so i don't know why its already that much better
Buddy, this is not a review, this is an paid advertisement of TP-Link router. Don't get me wrong, the product is good, I landed here because I also wanted to buy it. Internet will eat you alive if you are this gullible.
Anybody else feel like LMG makes a video advertisement every time they need something new for their house and they find someone willing give them something new to “review”?
My newTP-Link AXE5400 6e Router is on the way. Thanks for showing us the Wall Mounting Slots. I will be mounting it on the wall. Have you ever considered Starlink? How about a Mesh Network? Thanks for the info. Good Stuff...
LTT has lots of sponsored videos, but usually they're actually entertaining and spiced up with their own LTT flavor. This one is a straight up infomercial. Blech.
My Fritz Box doesn't have huge antennas and deliver a wifi signal one story below it, through concrete walls, at 400-500 mbps. It was just ever so slightly more expensive. The feature set is from what I've seen also a lot more comprehensive. And yes, I'm on gigabit.
I have the slightly cheaper AX4400 and it’s been a great investment ($129 USD). I was getting about half of the speed I was paying for with the provided modem/router (wired or wireless). Got the new Arris Modem and this installed and getting near full speed. I also bought some Netgear mesh extenders (though after seeing this I doubt I needed them) and I’ve been getting good speeds upstairs and in the kitchen as well. Next step is to see if my garage (detached) can get wifi from that mesh unit. All in all I was $430 in.
I just got an AX1500 when I learned that my previous router CAPPED MY ETHERNET SPEED AT 100Mbps. But seriously, at $150, why are there STILL only 4 ports? I live on my own and I still need more than 4 ports!
These results aren't a matter of "OMG TP-LINK AMAZING!" as much as it is the original router being a pile of junk that was probably made in 2004 and I guarantee you could upgrade to the same level as the TP-LINK one for free by just talking to your ISP.
@@-never-gonna-give-you-up- If you think that is how "society" is then you're a whinging doomer and may as well end everything now since you believe everything is against you. Meanwhile us wth actual fucntional brains can continue to live in a society that is at the best spot that it has been in for as earth has existed.
I have been using Ax73 for months now, 2.4ghz range is very bad, not sure why it was way less than even 5ghz. Couldn’t get even on one floor above. 5ghz seems to be fine for the most part. Please dont upgrade to latest firmware. It will reduce the speeds drastically on 5ghz when far away from router. Also this router has some avira stuff built in due to which it would send 1000’s of dns request to their servers in minutes. There is no toggle to turn it off completely.
I’ve set up AX60s for clients, and although they’re much better than default routers, they aren’t something I’d seek out for a high-end router. If a client asked for something really good, I’d get them a high-end ASUS router.
@@Ebalosus yup, After using AX73, I think asus might be a better choice keeping in mind hardware, software etc. Will upgrade to them maybe when wifi 6e or wifi 7 is fully launched. Ax73 costed a bomb in my country so have to keep it for sometime.
You still need the archer t3u to make it get all the mbs. I have the archer t3u USB insert and i get 61 download and 100 upload speeds. No archer router just the archer t3u and a playable drive for the cd it comes with. So you know I wish I can add that router or the 6000 or the 11000 to add on.
Long advert for tplink.... however I use one of these at home and it's (for the price) a great WiFi router the 2.4ghz range is less than my old Archer C9 but the 5ghz is much better and the management options are 1000% better than the virgin pooper hub it replaced.
@@yungkoops r/confidentlyincorrect - We did a short study in University with a WAN bandwidth simulation and restricted it to 5mbit, 4k ran smooth as butter.
Do you guys think it’s worth the upgrade from the NETGEAR Nighthawk X6 AC3000? I have a small 800sqft house and don’t seem to get good coverage even at another end of the house.
Oh thank god, I was worried my neighbor wouldn't be able to get any wifi in his unit. Now we can supply the whole floor.
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That's a lot of bots...
You share?
Ever heard of a password bud?
nothing is a bigger advertisement for working for LTT than being able to own a three storey townhouse in Vancouver.
he owns it? I thought he just lived in it
I'm shure they all get paid well and this dude has some kind of boss job, so I'm shure he gets paid a bit more 😉
Yep
He might actually have one of the better places of the LTT team. Riley's home didn't look that fancy.
@@devluz Riley has _literally said_ he doesn't want fancy. Did you even watch the video concerning his minimalist setup?
If you need more wifi on the vertical plane instead of the horizontal one, you can put the antenna horizontally, perpendicularly to the roof/floor.
This omnidirectional antennas are better on their horizontal plane (when they are vertical). It is kind of a donut shape with the center being the antenna.
or just put the router vertically and the antenna should be 90 degree from the router (weSmart)
Guess what? Repositioning the antennae at a 90 degree angle will absolutely NOT boost the signal nor would it help with data throughput . The wifi signal radiates (almost) like a perfect sphere and Not like a straight line, nor a pancake. I totally understand why one may think that because I once thought the exact same thing before I did a thesis on that exact subject matter. These 2.4/5GHz dual band antenna sets have omnidirectional radio dispursement patterns. I hate to break it to you, but even if you bought directional ones, you'd be wasting like $15 each (x6), and the gain would still be negligible. :( Sorry.
@@jaysinblock8182 not true it is shaped like a donut
@@jaysinblock8182 no... it is shaping like donut...
For house that's more vertical, you should adjust the antenna perpendicular to the wall.
I did it andI get extra gain from -65 dbm to -55 dbm
3 floor townhouse in Van? Sign me up for a job at LMG!
Bought this a few months back and its an excellent router. The real reason why i am happy is because this is a rare product that in cheaper in India than US. Finally i didn't have to pay 50% more for a gadget in India.
Set up bridging mode and use the TP Link router in PPPoE mode. Airtel has given you what model ONT?
@@aashishsharma1702 Note depends on ISP, but can be PPPoE if you have credentials (username+password to log in), if no credentials, you just set up as DHCP and it will automatically get IP etc.
Note some fiber providers lock connected device to MAC address, so when you swap the router and net doesn't work, call ISP and ask them to release the previous MAC.
@@Masterrunescapeer I told him so confidently because I have the same ISP and have done the same stuff to bridge through PPPoE, but what you said is better in general use case. Thanks for the advice👍
@ankurbedi5000 isn't overkill? I thought AX10 was sufficient for 150mbps internet speed casual users. What model did you buy and at what price?
@@prakashm6040 I bought AX5400 around 1.5 years back for around 10k (Now you can get it less than 8k on amazon). I did a lot of research that time and this one suited my requirement (Low latency for gaming, wifi 6, signal strength etc.) AX10 and 20 were having some heating issues reported by several people. I do not remember the details right now but this router has given me no issues so far.
I bought a tp link router a few months back and am super impressed with it. Setup was a breeze (way easier than I was expecting), and I now get all the speed I pay for, anywhere in the house. Pretty sweet.
When your neighbor links you this video and tells you to upgrade "our" Wifi.
r/expectedcommunism
is James slowly becoming Linus? now installing things in HIS HOUSE 🤣
Similar results with the AX55/3000. I now have internet throughout the house and garage. This router is a beacon of signal. It is staying. Also cut my ping in half, and it was incredibly easy to set up.
Pls tell your Hardware version of AX55. My version is 1.0 and it doesn't have much coverage as you said..
A cheaper mesh setup from tp link is a way better match for your house. You'll have good coverage throughout the whole house instead of overkill in the bedroom and meh across the rest.
Absolutely true. He doesnt need theoretical 5400mbps.
I used 3 xiaomi ax3000 mesh routers, very cheap, around my house and it gives amazing coverage.
yeah, i have 5 deco e4 that cost me around $200 can cover our house including the gardens and sounds more logical than "great" wifi router especially there's a lot spaces that you need to cover
I think thats what he actual want to do... this is a sponsored video to show the capabilities of the router
Depends what you want to use it for, my issue is always latency at the other end, so I'd rather do a wired set-up across the entire house (which is what I ended up doing, 4 fiber runs to all of them since had to run cable along the wall, CAT cable just too thick with shielding for it not be immediately noticeable, and also don't ever want to do the run again, now it's just SFP and swap out the devices at the ends when need to upgrade).
@@Masterrunescapeer like I said, overkill. What are you using +100mb/s for? What's the difference between my ping of 5 and yours of 3. I would like some higher internet in my office sometimes but even then.
I get the need to make money, but wasn't the idea behind short circuit was about small quick look at products staff were interested in, or at least not a product advertising commercial?
The idea was small, quick looks at products. It enables them to make videos that wouldn't fit on LTT but that's not its sole purpose.
I love TP-Link because most of their devices support the flashing of aftermarket software. I got good reception in a ~1910s european house (some of the walls are made out of bricks, others out of concrete and some of those contain giant rocks from the river nearby as a "filler") by combining 5 20€ Tp-link routers (some are 144Mbit 2.4Ghz N, others are 300Mbit N). Works well enough to provide a consistent 3ms of ping to the router, 0% packet loss and no spikes by utilizing all available frequency channels to avoid stalls and it yields 50Mbit/s of effective throughput (more than enough for the 30Mbit/s internet).
The AX5400 is Broadcom based. No OpenWrt here. It's also mediocre in performance. I got myself the Redmi AX6S for use with OpenWrt after sending this model back.
I have this router and got it for 30% off amazon. It has been bulletproof since I bought it. Great speed, and great range. Software is good also, no complaints.
I just ordered one.. how is the range ? I live in a 2 bedroom apartment, I wonder if I can get coverage everywhere inside the apartment..
I've had my eye on this since the video came out, with my old 2.4ghz only router being over 12 years old.
I got it a month ago and its range is insane (have it on first floor)
I now stuck mesh on the ground floor for pure overkill.
I now have 600/800mbit through the house and 400+ in the yard.
10/10 would buy again.
What materials are your houses built with? One floor of concrete above I can't even connect to the hotspot
@@harrytsang1501 bricks and concrete.
I have the router on the second floor back half of the house and a Mesh thingy with 2 antennas from TP link on the first floor on the first half of the house.
Evyrthing has great wifi the only people i hear complain have Sony phones and i recently got a xperia 5 IV and it also has poor antennas sadly.
I did turn off 2.4ghz on the router/mesh due to it always having "max signal" some devices wanted to switch to that eventhough 5ghz with 1 bar less gives several hundreds mbit more speed.
Edit : err router on first floor and mesh thingy on ground floor sorry im derping hard.
I’m glad we finally got to see James’s new place.
I have a TP-Link Archer router (older WiFi 5 version), it performs really well across the entire apartment, except it freezes up in some cases (where it just needs a reboot). So I'd recommend them, especially if you want some more advanced configuration options.
I've never really had good experience with Archer, two of them kept having micro stutters randomly dropping packets, ended up getting a Tenda AC9, was cheap and actually ended up getting better performance throughout the house. There's something wrong with Archer's software probably .
"Thats about 1.3 bananas in length"
Great, then I can already make the holes in my wall to mount it, thanks!
U know that a video is sponsored when 8mbps is good
It's just physics. You need an access point for each floor if you want good coverage and speed. No free lunch, no miracles.
@@technologyanimals agreed. And because of that the 6 high gains antena for ultra performance is kinda of marketing bs.
@@lu4414 it depends on the end-device as well, because if the router is 4x4 MU-MIMO and the phone/laptop/tablet is only 2x2, then unless you’re sharing the wifi with quite a few other people (like 5+), then those extra antennae on the router don’t make that much difference.
If the router offers debugging tools, or has a serial header, you can often view the per antenna RSSI. What the device will try to do is find the ones with the best RSSI, and then further enhance using beamforming. Sadly beamforming doesn't handle height very well, and works best when clients are on the same level as the AP.
Sadly with that type of construction, 8 to 16mbps through concrete is good, provided the wrong type of equipment is being used. For homes like that, I have always had someone go with multiple APs with a wired backhaul for each level of the home. There just isn't much of a way around it, , as the FCC imposed limits that many other countries follow, makes it unable to handle that level of attenuation properly.
Seems like James has never setup a router post 2013 since most features aren't "new and exciting" but standard (especially when you don't use the ISP routers). I have a feeling Linus wouldn't have gotten this excited about the device.
Even good ISP routers have a lot of those features.
@@agentcrm I get the full 100 mbps up and down from my isp modem/router and it covers basically the entire house. I'm all for better aftermarket routers but when I personally wouldn't even see a benefit to doing so, it's kinda hard to feel like it's necessary lol
@@agentcrm true, but at least here in NZ it’s rare that ISPs give out good routers by default. Most of the companies here charge a premium for a much better router, or if you’re like me, just get a premium one yourself.
@@Ebalosus Yup, same here in Australia. My Telstra modem even has 4G backup built in.
@@agentcrm good to hear that Telstra cleaned up their act. It’s funny because a decade ago Telstra here in NZ was considered the gold-standard of ISPs in terms of excellent plans and service, but my cousins in Australia endlessly bashed them there for their shitty plans and service.
I like the to link stuff but fully disabling WPS can be unintuitive on them. FYI always disable WPS it can be breached easily.
Almost got this one, but due to the spotty reviews and pay to play QoS, I went with an ASUS with similar specs instead.
Just got the ASUS ROG Rapture AX11000 and it’s just incredible 😌
Also OneMesh from TP works only with extenders and won't work with 2 or more routers.
@@thomasgunn4146 I only got the AX5400. Didn’t go quite so wild 😂
Three story townhouse in the Vancouver area? Now we know how well Linus pays :)
I got the Archer AX90 (AX6600) and its fantastic, all my issues from the ISP provided router are gone. Rock solid stable
I bought one of these a couple days too soon =P
Great router. I'm loving it. I have no problem with reception anywhere over both of my houses and no longer need the mesh I was using.
You should've added a cheap OneMesh repeater to your setup. Especially with such a big building, and those lackluster speeds.
TPlink is some of the worst experience i've had with a router, great reviews, but support on my old archer was dropped 2 years later. Had it regulary restart by itself shortly after that, "fixed"that with some suspicious beta version of their firmware only available on their forums, router kept randomly restarting every once in a while... Went back to Asus and haven't had any weird outages anymore.
Price of network thingis correlate to lifetime of support. Thats why you own router (pfsense etc) pays for itself, just through updates. TP link is good for the lifetime of 6 months...
Can say the same, had at home and at work multiple Archer AP's, the one at work dies every few weeks and needs to be restarted. The one at home died like every few days. Got myself a Linksys MR7350 and never had issues. The only big issue i have is when i'm streaming from my PC to my laptop using moonlight, connection drops a few seconds every 10-15 mins, never managed to find hardware that doesn't have that issue though, so i guess it's interferences or something
Yep. The stock firmware is often crap on these consumer routers.
Got two TP link APs from my old employer stating that they were returned by a customer and broken. Flashed OpenWRT on them and they worked for two years until I replaced them with something faster. Got an old unusable TP Router, flashed OpenWRT and it was my main router for years while doing traffic shaping, VLAN and DoS protection with an uptime of over 200 days until I updated the firmware.
Currently using an 8 year old 60 euro TP-link router that originally couldn’t even handle 150mbps, using OpenWRT, doing traffic shaping, VLAN and DoS protection while breezing though sustained 300 mbits. Not a single dropout. Oh yeah, if I wanted I could get nightly new updates.
So my conclusion is TP-Link: great hardware, absolutely crippling software.
@@sanaltdelete Dude OpenWRT sounds awesome! How user friendly is it? I might try to repurpose my old WD N900 if it works with it
@@Sakredevil It depends on if OpenWRT has official builds for your router, if it does then it is not much of an issue to use (once you get it installed). But if it does not have official builds (but does support the hardware) then you are going to have to find out if someone has decided to do their own builds of it or you will need to compile it yourself.
gotta be real, I dont like how the banana is shoehorned into every short circuit now
Love TP-Link. Have it in my house, and put a deco in my in-laws' house. Not to mention the great extenders that can be bridges or APs. Excellent price/performance ratio, and good durability.
No mesh setup? 👀
@@fairyball3929 Deco meshes suck. You cannot choose 5ghz or 2.4ghz bands and the general range sucks unless all access points have Ethernet backhaul
Their lower tier products are trash. I had an Archer A7 which was advertised as gigabit but the processor is too slow to actually reach gigabit speeds (even under ideal conditions, i.e. only one device connected via ethernet).
@@TacohMann Ahh... I was hoping to buy a lower end 802.11 AC access point (I forgot the brand name), but now I see why $60-70 access points are not that amazing.
@@TacohMann this one isn't great either, but it's not that expensive so eh. The software is awful and they try to sell you a fucking subscription for simple security features.
i'm in an area with only one decent wifi option, so i'm just here to get totally confused about the layout of this townhouse. i guess it's three floors but they're all pretty small? because otherwise, the desktop computer would be in its own office? regardless the place is fucking beautiful so kudos to james and his wife and i wish them happy streaming lol.
Concrete mess up with signal much more than many other wall types.
Iv had this router for 2 months now, something iv found is if you want ddos protection, the router has to be directly connected to your isp rather than having the connection passed to it by the isp router in modem mode since the isp router isnt protected.
I got the lowest grade AX from TP Link, it works amazingly well, and it even got the game consoles downloading more reliably.
Holy crap, your upload on 5G on your roof is double what I get wired into my router! Not the routers fault, its Spectrum internet less than 20 miles from the Lenior Google server in NC!
either that or you are a cheap bastard that doesn't want to pay for better internet...lol :)
@@bober1019 far as I know I am supposed to be on a decent tier. I get 120 down, which is around the average in my area
@@Celician83 i hope you dont pay more than 35 bucks.
@@bober1019 here that is the $75/mn tier...
@@Celician83 i pay 95 cdn for 1 gbps / 800mbps. its a tad high but at least its fast.
So weird seeing him look at an app with a bunch of premium crap and NOT hearing him eviscerate it
$$$$
A lot of those features are on good ISP routers as well these days.
Yeah, but those end up costing about this much for every year you use them, unless your ISP offers an outright purchase option
For me, they block dns rerouting. Fucking hate it.
@@jomeyqmalone Depends where you live. In the UK you get your router for free. You only pay for the service
@@jomeyqmalone I presume renting a modem is a US thing, because I don’t believe it’s legal in Australia (modem is typically supplied outright) and I didn’t see it when I was living in the UK, where the modem was supplied included in the contract cost.
@@agentcrm Yes here in the US most ISP that are cable, or DSL based give you the option to rent your modem, and/or Gateway(modem, WiFi, VOIP in one box), but most of them are junk, and you end up spending more in a year then buying a modem, and separate route outright. however I'm stuck with my cable ISP(Atlantic Broadband)Gateway at work because of the VOIP line in the package, but I convinced my boss to let me disable the WiFi in the gateway(Arris) that was causing it to shutdown, and reset itself every 15 minutes from overheating, and get a seperate TP-Link Archer AX1500 router, and it's been flawless eversense. At home I made sure I never rented my Router, and Cable modem no matter how hard my ISP(again Atlantic Broadband) tried to push it on me, and have bought my own Modems, routers, and even MagicJack VOIP devices over the years only upgrading as needed. Besides having full control of your own networking equipment is better security practice anyways.
I just installed its little brother, the TP-Link AX55 in my house.
It is really good. I am getting the max speeds that I pay for, with all of my WiFi 5 and WiFi 6 devices I have, wherever I am in my house.
My last WiFi router which was WiFi 5 and the 5Gz band would be kind of hit and miss depending on where I was in the house.
So I am sure this one is even better than mine. Unfortunately I paid only 20 dollars less for mine, than this one is currently going for.
I installed this router today, my wireless went from around 20mps to 232!! Worth every dollar!!
A 10+ fold improvement? Wow! Which router were you using previously?
This router is sick, got the same one here and we love it. Make sure you set the 5G channel properly. There are way too many noobs that leave it at the default setting. The services it shows are paid per month versions, get quite expensive. The tether app is a garbage by the way.... just saying Also there have not been any updates to the firmware.... which is worrisome
I agree with everything besides the app, it's not amazing but way better than opening my browser on my cellphone to use the web app if i just want to see the password or disable the guest network
The tether app is simple. Just enough to make it work normally. The hardcore settings are on the homepage
id rather set my own thing up instead of paying for basic functionality of something i bought
I feel conned, this is just a 7 minute advert.
welcome to short circuit! where they can run a 7 minute ad about a wifi 6 router and never once mention if they're connected through wifi 6 or not
I just watched a nearly 7 minute ad. That hurt my soul.
I used to use the guest network on my router when friends came over. I know a lot of IT people who like to mess with things so keeping them as isolated from my things as possible was a big plus. Worked for a good few months before someone figured out how to hack it and get into the main network and rename everything on my network....... Never did find out which of the two did it, but I have my guesses.
maybe WPS is still available, one push on router and your friend can get access to the router.
In a bunker like that, something like the TP-Link Deco Powerline Hybrid Mesh WiFi System might be a better fit.
I’m a bit mixed on their Deco line, because you can’t segregate the networks for things that don’t play nice with integrated 2.4/5Ghz networks.
It would be nice to see a video comparing the various consumer wifi routers for speed and range
I got the Archer A10 AC2600 which is faster but lacks the new Ax wifi. Imo a good budget option for people who dont care about being future ready but want the solid range. Also it's like 40-50 USD literally a third of the cost.
James made this video at his house so he can flex 😂
feels more like he cud get free wifi upgrade for is house, plus linus tested ASUS RT-AX86U AX5700 WiFi 6 Router at work
I'm more impressed that James can stand outside in his t-shirt in December
This episode came out as i was out trying to fix a broken router.
The universe is mysterious
I felt the same way when i was trying to repurpose an old computer as a media server, and then anthony's video on LTT came out that day
I can't decide between ASUS TUF-AX5400 vs Tp-Link Archer AX73. The specification is very similar, but I'm interested in stability and WIFI coverage. Maybe someone can share the experience.
so which one did you go for?
0:47 Top or Bottom? That means that you could also call it a....
switch
>ONT/internet access point in the bedroom
Glad to know that it’s not just here in NZ that the contractors can be epically lazy in that regard…
Got these for a while now, so far i'm satisfied with my speed and coverage. Only two story sub-urban house. Most of my devices is AX so it's cool.
might be a silly question but wouldn't it make more sense to pair those up to 5400Mbps on wifi6 with multi gigabit ethernet ports rather than one gigabit?
Well, you're never going to get the 5400Mbps on wifi. The 5400Mbps is just a combination of all streams possible with that wifi standard. Even with Wifi6 you're not going to get above the 800Mbps-mark. Maybe a bit but not much. On those speeds the kind of client-device you're using and a lot of other external factors matter even more. I have a 200Mbps-subscription and I can get that on any device that supports Wifi5. If I got gigabit then the real difference shows. For work I have a Samsung Galaxy S20 which easily goes to 600/650Mbps whereas my Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 LTE (also work) never goes across 400Mbps. It just doesn't.
Even with wired options the client-device can be a bottleneck. Had a customer once who was complaining he wasn't getting only 640Mbps while on a wired connection. Turned out that his laptop had a gigabit-port but the rest of the hardware wasn't capable of handling gigabit speeds.
Yeah that reply is accurate. Most devices only do 2x2 streams so a net gigabit is about the speed you'll get. They also tally 2.4G and 5G speeds although no device accepts data from both bands concurrently.
lol i finally bought one i got it for under 100 bucks, and my speeds in basement went from 20mbps to 250mbps with this, and i didnt even upgrade to a wifi 6 pci card yet lmao so i don't know why its already that much better
one issue I have with OneMesh is the same as I have with Asus AiMesh - no products rated for outdoor operations.
I'm so glad that you've reviewed this router ! Been watching it for a while specially for mesh network !
Thank you
Buddy, this is not a review, this is an paid advertisement of TP-Link router. Don't get me wrong, the product is good, I landed here because I also wanted to buy it. Internet will eat you alive if you are this gullible.
Anybody else feel like LMG makes a video advertisement every time they need something new for their house and they find someone willing give them something new to “review”?
This is such a blatant paid commercial for an utterly run-of-the-mill router. It's a fine bit of kit, just like 882 other routers.
My newTP-Link AXE5400 6e Router is on the way. Thanks for showing us the Wall Mounting Slots. I will be mounting it on the wall.
Have you ever considered Starlink? How about a Mesh Network? Thanks for the info. Good Stuff...
LTT has lots of sponsored videos, but usually they're actually entertaining and spiced up with their own LTT flavor. This one is a straight up infomercial. Blech.
This seemed like more of an ad than James giving his honest opinion.
IMO, the only thing it's missing is a 2.5gbps port that can be either wan or lan, sort of like the Asus RT-AX86U.
Got the AC3000 model from the same lineup. More than I ever need in my apartment.
would be good to know what your comparing it to? ISP router is not fair to ISPs that offer premium mesh systems and managed wifi solutions
Yo that speed on the roof is useful for video calls
And wifi-calling
My Fritz Box doesn't have huge antennas and deliver a wifi signal one story below it, through concrete walls, at 400-500 mbps. It was just ever so slightly more expensive. The feature set is from what I've seen also a lot more comprehensive. And yes, I'm on gigabit.
I have the slightly cheaper AX4400 and it’s been a great investment ($129 USD). I was getting about half of the speed I was paying for with the provided modem/router (wired or wireless). Got the new Arris Modem and this installed and getting near full speed. I also bought some Netgear mesh extenders (though after seeing this I doubt I needed them) and I’ve been getting good speeds upstairs and in the kitchen as well. Next step is to see if my garage (detached) can get wifi from that mesh unit. All in all I was $430 in.
I just got an AX1500 when I learned that my previous router CAPPED MY ETHERNET SPEED AT 100Mbps. But seriously, at $150, why are there STILL only 4 ports? I live on my own and I still need more than 4 ports!
the average household doesn't need more than 4, if you need more just get a switch
I‘m normally a big defender of the metric system. But 1.3 LTT bananas? I. Can. Live. With. That!
These results aren't a matter of "OMG TP-LINK AMAZING!" as much as it is the original router being a pile of junk that was probably made in 2004 and I guarantee you could upgrade to the same level as the TP-LINK one for free by just talking to your ISP.
Wait till he looks at those Asus ax11000 and Xiaomi ax9000
@@skyemperor2357 yeah, it only costs like 4x and 2x as much ;)
Nah, they just paying big money for the reaction
Lol only if it worked like that! Welcome to the society kiddo.
@@-never-gonna-give-you-up- If you think that is how "society" is then you're a whinging doomer and may as well end everything now since you believe everything is against you. Meanwhile us wth actual fucntional brains can continue to live in a society that is at the best spot that it has been in for as earth has existed.
I have been using Ax73 for months now, 2.4ghz range is very bad, not sure why it was way less than even 5ghz. Couldn’t get even on one floor above. 5ghz seems to be fine for the most part. Please dont upgrade to latest firmware. It will reduce the speeds drastically on 5ghz when far away from router.
Also this router has some avira stuff built in due to which it would send 1000’s of dns request to their servers in minutes. There is no toggle to turn it off completely.
I’ve set up AX60s for clients, and although they’re much better than default routers, they aren’t something I’d seek out for a high-end router. If a client asked for something really good, I’d get them a high-end ASUS router.
@@Ebalosus yup, After using AX73, I think asus might be a better choice keeping in mind hardware, software etc. Will upgrade to them maybe when wifi 6e or wifi 7 is fully launched. Ax73 costed a bomb in my country so have to keep it for sometime.
I just got one on cyber Monday. It’s the best router I’ve had yet. I use it in my back yard and can get 400mbps at my mailbox.
Do wifi 6 routers have backwards compatibility, like down to Wireless N? Any routers with N and AC on it? I need leads, and from TP-Link if possible.
Yes all and every router in world is backwards compatible as a standard
You're changing speed test servers - use iperf3 or similar to test the speed from the router to the device.
I see that monitor pointed out the window. Someone is enjoying outdoor computing (or adult videos). 4:34
Im a simple man.
I see a cast-iron pan, I upvote
Can you use two of these as a mesh? But only is as a router/Access point
using this ax73 2 months ago,it makes my web surfing more stable.
Is it still the case that you can NOT use multiple TP-Link Routers for a WiFi Mesh network? If so, they are still not an option for me.
Yes, multiple routers can't be used in mesh.
Nice looking digs. Dig you get your sound system installed the way you like?
Quite something else watching a hardware you're using being reviewed by a top tech channel.
What happened to James's old location, shown kn the Intel set up upgrade vid
There's so many improvements you can make. 1 is move your router away from that porch. The bars really wreck wifi
You still need the archer t3u to make it get all the mbs. I have the archer t3u USB insert and i get 61 download and 100 upload speeds. No archer router just the archer t3u and a playable drive for the cd it comes with. So you know I wish I can add that router or the 6000 or the 11000 to add on.
i ordered one of these 3 days ago. leaving unifi for home use due to odd issues with the new uap 6 lite.
Long advert for tplink.... however I use one of these at home and it's (for the price) a great WiFi router the 2.4ghz range is less than my old Archer C9 but the 5ghz is much better and the management options are 1000% better than the virgin pooper hub it replaced.
TP Link let's you band the frequencies together so you don't have to pick 2.4 or 5GHz. Once banded, your devices will pick the best frequency.
That never works right
It looks like I left my phone on top of it permanently.
But can you set it up without internet? Bought a linksys high end router recently that was a brick for just local WAN.
8.5 Mbit is actually more than enough to stream 4k movies, surprised me too.
wrong, you need 25/50mbs
@@yungkoops r/confidentlyincorrect - We did a short study in University with a WAN bandwidth simulation and restricted it to 5mbit, 4k ran smooth as butter.
James' new place 👌🏻
tp link mesh is great btw. (the routers themselves wont work as mesh repeaters though ..even if set up as access point)
this is why I am using Asus AiMesh...
"lets you easily switch off your router to enjoy time together offline" my god I'm so glad I'm not a kid these days and don't have tech parents XD
Those mi router repeaters are the best ones for full speed without cable
This is the most Ad feeling episode of a short Circuit I’ve ever seen.
This video was very chill with James!
Would have liked to see a pfsense test to understand what local bandwidth is like for streaming Plex or VR wirelessly.
I do want to see how you arranged the audio setup on your new house, if you don’t mind.
do you have to pay monthly
Do you guys think it’s worth the upgrade from the NETGEAR Nighthawk X6 AC3000?
I have a small 800sqft house and don’t seem to get good coverage even at another end of the house.
asus is best
how does this "family mode" stuff even work, doesn't every device switch to mobile data?
Still connected on Wi-Fi , but you have not internet... _I guess_
I'm a tad confused. He says AX73 yet the box says AX5400.. are they the same?
That's basically every home in the Netherlands. Solid concrete and bricks