Hey everyone, I'm looking forward to hearing the discussions on William and Luke so do share your thoughts. There was a lot of surprise shared amongst the searchers, parents and medical staff - what do you make of that? And if you spend a lot of time in wilderness / mountainous areas then please do share your knowledge with us too. Also, I'm aware that I am looking away at my notes far too frequently during this one, but I have a solution for the next one so that shouldn't be a problem again!
You have done a wonderful job in researching these incidents. You are right about more being involved than meets the eye. My bet, nature spirits of some kind, living in the tops of trees maybe. Great, great job mate, thanks hugely.
@@akristen4971 I'm not sure, I think that it could potentially provide some benefits but some quite severe drawbacks too. I actually think that there may be more to autistic people running hotter than others, than I first thought. On the other hand, as one of medical experts suggested, having autism might severely affect the ability to assess risk. I'm with Luke's parents, I'd love to see a snapshot of what exactly happened overnight
I know next to nothing about autism, but it was suggested, particularly in Luke's case, that he might not have known that he was lost - would it be ridiculous to suggest that this may have helped? When in dire situations people often panic, which can exacerbate the problem that they are facing, perhaps making bad decisions. These two boys didn't panic, maybe not realising how perilous their respective situations were - they seemed to remain quite calm, which meant that they didn't take risks. As bizarre as it sounds they might have almost enjoyed the relative peace, which might have, in turn, helped them to survive.
I have zero experience with autistic people. One of the things that I have learned doing high incline-high altitude SAR over the years, is that the differences in ability to get along, if you will, in climate extremes by people, is sometimes dumbfounding. In one case, 7 kids (12-14 yrs. old) survived above 10,000 ft. up a mountain, in sub zero temps for a week, with no cold weather gear and two Snickers bars and were in great shape, when we found them. NO hyperthermia, frost bite or any harm what so ever, not even bruising. On the other hand two healthy people in their 20s died in under 24 hours in temps that got no lower than the mid 40s F (7-8C) from hypothermia. Both groups were dressed similarly. I have stopped being surprised. Near as I can tell attitude makes more of a difference than anything else, in these situations. I wish that I had answers when grieving relatives ask me why, their loved ones didn't make it or I fail to find them.
interesting, I wonder if the kids had been taught if they were stranded to keep moving every hour - jumping jacks, stretches, etc, keeps the blood moving and huddle together as close as possible when it is cold, keep moving so that each person gets same amount of warmth - don't leave same persons(s) on ground and on top, move positions frequently - Just a thought and thanks for your service !!!!
I like to think the first person was so excited to climb that little mountain, got to the top, looked around & said "well this is a disappointment" then told all their friends that it wasn't all that. Like how else would one come up with a name like that? Lol
My area have trails called "the devils backbone" and "the devils bathtub". Recently the later was in the news for a bunch of people.getting stranded due to flooding. Maybe these trails have this warning for a reason. 🤔
I can partly answer that,in older countries it’s a case of adopting the name because something happens there that was murder or disappearances just plain spooky.In the country’s only recently settled (100’s not 1000’s) by europeans it was a hard slog in unknown territory and they truly believed in the devil and having your soul snatched away by some evil entity having the devil in the name was a warning or description of the place you were in the devil of a mountain that’s a devil of a desert pass it was also kind of used to vilify the ancient historical grounds burial or otherwise believed the shamans to be witches.
My son is a high functioning autism, and even now at thirty, he only puts shoes on if he's going to work, and even on the coldest winter day he will only wear a small light summer jacket. He says the cold doesn't bother him, and that he can't stand the heat when he's walking somewhere. My guess is the children in question were walking constantly, day and night, so the cold won't have bothered them much. It will also probably be the reason one has the injuries of an athlete, with constantly walking for so many days.
My oldest son is high functioning Aspergers. He also has a genius IQ of 143. He is exactly the same as your son regarding temperature and is really sensitive to texture. Only wears shoes when he goes to work, has no detection of cold but overheats easily. We live in Alaska where -40F is not uncommon in the winter and I have to remind him to wear a thicker coat, his thermal socks and a hat and gloves. He’d rather wear his windbreaker. He also is freakishly strong and has incredible LE accurate eye/hand coordination. I have a friend who’s son is low functioning autistic and he has the cold thing too. Interesting. I prefer the cold( sleep with air conditioner on or window open at night through the winter) so not sure if it’s hereditary or autistic related.
@@kelligray1848 My son is also high functioning Aspergers also, as is my wife and she's the same, she also has two degrees, one in science and one in nutrition. We have recently found out, worked out, Aspergers runs in her side of the family. For anyone else who may be read this and be interested in Aspergers check out National autistic society, this is a uk website.
Strange. My kids are the same way. Very particular about clothing and always wanting to wear as little or as light clothing as possible. Like no matter the weather. So many similarities of the folks here and/or their loved ones. Very strange indeed....but thanks for sharing. Everyone. I'm actually kinda shocked at the common occurances I see by others. Things like that...specifically those particular things...shouldn't exactly be common, yet here we all are. Incredible.
@@HellaQuinn Before I was diagnosed (very late diagnosis of full blown ADD) I went to a conference to see Mary Rodwell who is a woman who lives in Australia who works with children with Autism Aspbergers and ADD as well as adult contactees ( of paranormal encounters) and she has some very interesting theories regarding the instances of Autism Aspbergers and ADD in that she conveyed a philosophy whereby those with these conditions\brain differences also have souls that are bigger than their body computer is able to withstand. My theory is with very fast neural synapses and different abilities to maintain (and contain\stay within) certain states of energy that these individuals similar to myself are able to in many cases withstand conditions that would otherwise be considered non-withstandable to others who do not have the same conditions -- this is not to say that those on the spectrum do not have our own vulnerabilities as we absolutely do but the way we function and cognate and endure different stimuli and phenomena and environments can be considerably different and not the typical trajectory of the 'norm'. We seem to use more energy (even if its not visible externally) within our bodies (physical emotional and other) because of the high rate of processing information and multiple points of focus at once. My brothers have the same thing where they don't need to wear many layers in the winter either (shorts and shirt!) and I believe that it has a lot to do with the feeling of restriction vs freedom and also the sense of familiarity when certain clothing is worn and reworn over and over despite seasonal suitability. Texture has always been a really big point of contention for me and temperature has also been problematic my whole life too. An old friend of mine has a niece who was non-verbal and they didn't seem to want to make an effort to comprehend what she was trying to convey - One day they put her boots on and dragged her by the arm into the backyard to go and feed the animals - they couldnt understand why she was kicking up a fuss but I knew - I just knew what it was - I knew the reason why she was getting antsy was because the tongue in the boot was folded over and was uncomfortable for her - as soon as I gauged this she turned around and looked straight at me and smiled.
Just one suggestion for the doctors in these rescue cases. Examine the poop! I'm serious, poop could tell them if and what they had eaten. Might prove useful.
That's a good idea, but I think doctors in rescue situations are concerned with stabilizing the patient and treating injuries. Fecal analysis costs money, and I doubt anyone would be willing to pay for it, as it is not tied to a medical condition the patient is currently being treated for. Maybe the family could pay for it (but I'm sure that fecal analysis would be last on their list of important expenses right after their missing child is found)
Great idea and one you meet want to suffer to search and rescue groups. If nothing else, I'm sure the parents would want to know what happened to their child while they were gone!!
Maybe thermal imaging cameras are not so good for finding people. Maybe if someone is under a tree branch or partly under an overhanging rock that is enough to easily obscure them from a thermal imaging camera above them?
I’m a mother of a highly functioning autistic young man. When he was around 4, he left the house with no warning. We couldn’t find him. He wouldn’t answer. I had the idea to give him a command as he would usually answer me, so I did and we found him quickly after that. I’m only telling this story to hopefully someday help in a rescue attempt if, god forbid, a boy or girl goes missing again. It was heartbreaking to hear the second young boy was so afraid of the trees after his ordeal. It would seem he was remembering something he saw there or perhaps that was his way of telling his story of what happened while he was lost.
So the people 4 wheeling didn’t find it odd to see a little boy sitting alone on a log in the middle of nowhere and didn’t stop and see if he was ok???
Seriously I thought the same thing. And yes people are fucking stupid! Beyond fucking stupid but there’s a absolutely no excuse to see a kid in the middle of bum fuck nowhere and not think it was fucking odd! Wtf!! 🤔
I used to work with children on the Autistic spectrum and whilst some were very fearful of various things , some had no fear of anything . Perhaps being lacking in any fear actually contributed to the boys survival . There was a case in Australia where an autistic lad became separated from his family . He loved swimming and spent hours swimming down a crocodile infested creek . He was spotted in the water eventually and safely reunited with his family . Rescuers were baffled as to why no crocs had attacked him . Thanks for the video , fascinating stuff 👍♥️
He wasn't a threat...and he was acting like he was one of them. Nothing to see here...just a scale-less crocodile passing through! A lot of animals can sense fear (that's what prompts them to attack) and this boy obviously had NO fear of the crocs.
"standing still and staring at the tops of the trees" jeez man, are you trying to give me terminal goosebumps?! Great video, so happy the turnout for both of these little dudes was positive. I hope they aren't too traumatized. Couple of little superheroes.
I have autism, and my family has a genetic mutation that causes mitochondrial dysfunction. That gene is likely why I have autism, and it also causes several other nervous system disorders. My nervous system doesn't automatically regulate things that it's supposed to. For example I faint often while standing because my nervous system doesn't redirect the blood like it should. I also experience huge temperature swings that have no apparent cause. Usually I will have a temperature of 95 - 97 which is cool but normal. When it dips below 95 I become extremely nauseous, and need a lot of sugar and hot liquids to keep functioning. I usually get at least one fever a month, and sometimes have to go outside with no coat to cool off. Sometimes it is just my hands that get extremely hot or cold (Raynauds syndrome) I don't know if any of those things would help survive cold weather, but I do know these things are frequently comorbid with autism, and when kids complain about them they go undiagnosed as it is all blamed on the autism.
Cases like Luke's perplex me in there are so many where "people come across" a child alone in the woods and don't immediately contact authorities and remain with that child until help arrives.
These ppl are heartless and dont like children. Most likely they are in the wilderness to being with because they are anti social and prefer to be alone. So what makes u think they like ppl or let alone an innocent child. It's the cold hard truth. They should just admit they didn't give an f
@@chrisabshire82 I'm kinda antisocial and not crazy about kids (ask my own lol) but I would stop everything if I were in that situation until the child was safe.
It's only been the last forty yrs or so that a lone kid would be considered odd. I used to wander the woods alone for hours at a time from 5yrs on, granted I live in VT, not the city. Now ppl call the police if u let your ten yrs old walk to the store, even though the world is the safest it's ever been. Almost like it's designed so people will easily turn on their neighbor- they don't know them after all(too busy hiding inside).🤷🏻♀️
You looking away is not a problem. We don't expect you to memorize everything. 🙂 Really enjoy your show. Children are more resilient than we give them credit for.
Yes Laura. I noticed that the usual few, if any who even survive plane crashes are babies and young children. I agree that children survive while all the other adults don't. I wonder if it's maybe bcz being at an age where they don't yet understand, that they don't panic or know fear. Or perhaps they have been guided to safety by Angels. Who knows!
@@johanna5688 I've heard that "bracing yourself" in car crashes causes more injuries and is why when hit by a drunk driver the drunk often survives but not the sober driver. Kids may not have that awareness of impending impact so they don't tense up their bodies like an adult instinctively does.
As the mother of two high functioning autistic kids, I can tell you that shoes are the first thing to come off at any opportunity. My daughter freaks out the neighbors when she goes out barefoot in the snow. My son has had a couple of rounds of what we call wild goose chasing, and it is amazing how fast a small child can cover distance.
I don't think I would take a chance on going anywhere near a place called "Mt.Dissapointment".There must be an explanation for the name of that place.This is scary!
Right? What gets me about most of these cases is how a person can just up and disappear without anyone seeing a trace of them, like to the point where dogs can't even find them, as if they never existed. Or they travel a great distance without anyone knowing how it was possible. Very strange.
@@MrJaz8088 and ironic to this story, it's a beautiful place. Much like a lot of the alpine areas the only place I dont like is some of the campgrounds which can become quite swamp-like after any snow melts. School camp there would've been awesome.
Amazing cases! I was just about in tears when the rescuers found Luke. I think it’s a credit to humanity that when a complete stranger goes missing, hundreds of people will search day and night in the cold and in tough terrain to find them. I really enjoy your channel, you don’t sensationalize the cases but show real concern and have a caring demeanor.
These two cases are perfect examples of Missing 411 for children--including the "no idea how he got that far, but, you know, kids are weird, who cares." They were clean, in shockingly good condition. But nobody wants to conclude "Then he was not out there in the cold on his own" Their impairments also fit the the profile and being found where other people had already looked. People will do ANYTHING to avoid accepting the myster that is 411 because it's just too terrifying.
As a psych student wanting to work with kids and growing up with a family member with autism, your feedback and narration really touched me. Thank you for addicting education and empathy to thos video 😊
Hey Rachel! I was in an educator role with children with SEN and it was amazing. I think about it a lot and I actually miss doing it, my original plan was to get into counselling specific to SEN. Definitely a great career path in terms of making a difference to these young people's lives, I'm sure that you'll love it
@@MissingVoidTV you have a very special and unique gift, I feel like your level or empathy is on another level. It appears like you can understand such a wide variety if experiences in really complex unique environments. But in all of that you manage to appear logical and as if you don't take on others emotions, you empathise but you realise that their experience is not yours. I could be wrong but either way if you ever end up working in mental health again, I think you'd be an asset, the industry would benefit from more people like you
As a mother of a non verbal autistic 12 year old, I appreciate you stopping to explaining about autism. As far as the shoes go, that's pretty normal. My son hates wearing shoes. They also don't feel pain and such as much as "normal" people do. My son has hurt himself pretty badly and it doesn't even register in his mind is always so busy. (Honesty they really are like super humans in a way) I remember both these cases and the relief I felt for all them when they were found. Most people with autism who go missing aren't so lucky, alot of then end up in bodies of water. I have a GPS tracker for my son, just in case. And I no longer go out on walks or really out at all anymore being I'm a single mom of two and knowing how easy it is for my son to take off. (I've had one to many close calls).
Yes! My eldest has had a fractured arm and wrist and didn't show any pain. It was only the swelling that made us go to hospital. She also walked about for 2 weeks on a fractured heal.
Im on the spectrum and often go wildcamping with next to nothing in Winter as I really just don't feel the cold, any sort of hot temperature (25+ C) absolutely cripples me however.
Oh wow, that's actually really cool - not the being destroyed by the summer part haha! Yeah I'm now realizing that I dismissed that far too quickly and should have done some more reading on that area. Definitely my mistake on that one
My son is similar. Can wear very little on cold days, although he can also wear a jacket in summer and be ok. However, in hot humid conditions he will be sick for days and unable to eat. I have noticed he has a high pain tolerance, though it's more like he feels pain yet doesn't express it - coming across and super stoic and super human.
There was a 16 year old boy who went missing a few days ago in st Helen’s. He went off the trail with his group to use the bathroom and was gone. Search and rescue looked until night. Nothing. He was found walking out of the short trial 24 hours later. 1100 feet from where he had stepped off the trail to use the bathroom. They also found his shoes 500 feet from this trial.
I'm autistic, diagnosed later in life at 29. I am now 31 and I really appreciate how well you presented Autism and help others understand. I want to be like everyone else but clearly I struggle but in my case people often are surprised about my diagnosis and it's hard for them to believe which makes me really want to believe I am "normal" but fail lol. Just know that just because someone may not look capable doest mean they can't, just like in my case, I may look capable but honestly I can't sometimes and people push me without understanding that just because I look and act normal doesn't mean I can succeed like everyone else. BUT there are perks, not everyone can be as knowledgeable n passionate about off things. So I'm happy. I appreciate all who read this ❤️
I found a video of an interview with the Callaghan boy's mum and her partner. It was kind of bizarre how she spent more time talking about how tough it's been raising autistic kids, and thanking the boy's school and search party, than she did expressing concern or love. And at one point she said "He is loved... by everyone who comes across him," almost like she didn't like to say that she loved her kid. It did make me wonder about the family dynamics.
Frostbite is a possible cold weather injury as well, i would think being barefoot in cold weather would be a threat depending on the temperature. These cases are so odd, probably beyond comprehension. Great video.
I grew up not far from Lake Eildon (pronounced Eel-Don, but named after the Eildon Hills in Scotland) and I have actually camped at Devil's cove. Very heavy bush around that area but there are tracks that weave through there and a couple of trickling creeks for water. Overnight it gets very chilly that time of year and you get heavy dews. Extremely lucky to have spotted him from the air. On a side note - The Devil's river (and therefore cove) was named by John Hunter after seeing an Aboriginal corroboree on its banks the night he camped there. Entering the lake on the other side is the Delatite river (Delatite is the local Aboriginal name for devil).
The most mind blowing part of these disappearances is that these children survived THE NIGHT.. in the woods.. in very cold conditions.. because not only would it be extremely hazardous to navigate but did they even sleep? I wouldn't be able to sleep because I would be horrified at being lost and that alone would induce greater and greater exhaustion. It doesn't add up, man. These stories just don't add up.
My sons 11 now and was diagnosed with Autism at 3, he suffers with chronic skin conditions also. . He speaks now but was none verbal until about year 2 of primary school. Currently he goes to a school that specialises in language & communication. This video moved me, as that side of it was very relatable to me. On the other side of it, Its common knowledge that people at either end of the human spectrum go missing. On one hand you have physicians, doctors, scientists and athletes, on the other theres people/kids with physical or mental disabilities like Autism. Im curious as to wether more of the latter turn up alive than that of the former. The way this boy acted after he was found is really strange also, it only leads to more questions. If your a being or an entitie then the benefits of allowing a child with mental disabilities to live are great, as that child wouldnt be believed regardless. Coming to think of it, no child with or without disabilities has ever been taken seriously in these situations. Many kids have spoken out and all those cases involve high levels of strangeness and are peppered with abnormalities. Most those cases have been documented on this channel and are well worth a listen if your out the loop. Theres a chance its coincidental have course, and all these cases are just simple misdirection or bad luck. Somehow though i highly doubt any of these cases are natual in nature. I have a few theroys personally but its nothing the standard M411 buff wont already have heard 50 times over. Great video , ill look forward to the next one ...
Adam Warrington I have Aspergers. I personally believe people who are autistic/on the spectrum are very much in tune with the spirit/supernatural world. Alien abductions are also prominent in the autistic. I’m not trying to get all new age on this topic. I believe sensory perception is a part of it. Certain sounds bother me to the core. I can hear/feel frequencies others cannot. I could go on about this but I’ll stop here. It’s very sad people wont listen to what a child says whether he is autistic or not. I’ve never once told my kids they are imagining something or think they are making it up. I would like to dig deeper on the connection with autism and these disappearances.
@@blueeyedgypsy485 i hope my sons safe and he doesnt have any runnings with things of that nature. As a child myself about the age of 5 i started having very negative paranormal experiances in the house we lived in. It didnt ease up until we moved, but the experience still haunts me deeply to this day. As a fully grown man the impact of that experience still weighs heavy on my soul. Anything like that happening to my son is one of my greatest fears. I actually hoped his autism would have the opposite affect and keep him safer from all that stuff. Thanks for in insight into the condition though, appreciate it. I struggle very much with my sons autism and negative behaviours and always strive to better understand him. That said our lifes far from easy, and im aware the spectrum is huge and vastly different in each case .
Adam Warrington I’d personally love to know more about your childhood experiences in that house, only if you are able to do it without upsetting yourself of course. I think it’s admirable your desire to protect your son from that... we need more dads like you around for sure.
This last case is a good example why I get frustrated when people say “ we searched for the missing kid for 4 or 5 days, surely he couldn’t have made it longer without food and water” and then cut off the search. I’ve heard it time and again. Searches should be mandated two weeks at least. Had an in law that got lost as sea and they all swore he’d be dead when they found him- nope- he was alive and not too shabby even being in the water and facing crazy harsh odds. I never assume anymore.
Hello Adam Top Mysteries ! My son has severe autism with learning problems. But oh boy he is showing me that living is far beyond what some believe. They are often tuned in on another "radio frequensy" than the rest of us are. He is also very phychic.😇 Heavy -hearted cases😔. Great that you bring awareness about people with autism on the table. Because some don't know a sh** and don't care for this unique human beings.🙄 Virtual hugs & thanks from me.🤗💞💝💞
We hear that Luke became anxious and preoccupied with the treetops. I wonder whether something that was in the trees was associated with his disappearance?
Agreed as well! The right balance of calm logic and reason when explaining a mystery, not excited and not boring, but the right balance of interest and understanding. Big LIKE, as always!
It's odd! Both of these cases but yr video did shake a memory which may be something to think about esp when temperatures drop. Many years ago I used to volunteer via my local council & the Education Dept. As a helper with school excursions & mainly wth special needs schools. Even though my background was in psychology, at the time of my volunteering id been taking a sabbatical from my usual work. Anyway back to the point, I was helping teachers wth a trip to the Roman Wall ( quite near us in Northumberland) & the students were between 9 & 12 yrs & mid to high functioning autistic. During this excursion in mid summer & as per usual wth English weather, the afternoon quickly turned really chilly & foggy & damp. As we were quite a distance from our meet up destination & wth no shelter ( this area is quite desolate) most of the kids were shivering & miserable & we were trying to keep their spirits up by singing & marching like the Roman soldiers, the kids were being valiant but shuddering in the cold except this one lad, he wasnt wearing anything the others didn't wear, except he was beaming, huge smile on his face. I walked beside him, smiling too & asked if he wasn't cold as all the others were & he said he wasn't cold at all. I asked him why that was & he said in his way of explaining that whenever he was cold he thought really hard of being in his house infront of his fireplace, lying on his red rug looking at faces in the fire then he wasn't cold anymore I touched his hands & cheeks & he really was toasty warm. Everyone else incl me was freezing hands faces bodies cold & shivery. I can't say those missing lads in Australia could visualise something the way my student did to keep warm as no other student displayed this ability & as you stated, autistic children can have extraordinary abilities. I'd forgotten all about this incident until yr video tonight But maybe these young boys had a similar coping mechanism & unable to describe it to rescuers Police, even parents. It's just a thought that may help understanding. Love love love yr vids, can't praise your genuine concern & hard work into difficult areas you cover wth diligence & a fine tooth comb wthout being an A... Hole! Thank you.
This is really interesting. I have been told that there is some thought/emerging evidence that there are differences with the processing of and the perception of pain amongst those who are neurodivergent (ASD, ADHD). On that basis it could be that temperature tolerance/reaction may also be different. I must look up the research on it one day!
Similar thing I was doing all my life ( especially when I was a kid ). When it was cold outside and kids around me were shivering I would be imagining that I am in a desert sweating under unbearable hot sun - it always worked without missing a beat..... Power of autosuggestion is extremely strong and it can be used in many different ways for our benefit.
By the way, I like the new format. So far nice blend of visual info, balanced with the shots of you. Puts a nice face on a very pleasant voice, to go with the info.
First I want to say how impressed I was with your knowledge about autism! My son is now 18 and he was diagnosed with Autism and is high functioning. These stories are so scary to me. I absolutely think there is more that happened we will most likely never know. I think David Paulides has covered these or some very similar. It's a common theme that shoes go missing. I have some weird theories on what is happening and I don't think it's only 1 reason. It's also common for children with disabilities to go missing more often than children without, which only brings more questions. I don't think it's because they wander off unless they are being lured away by something. I know my son wouldn't leave my side when he was growing up. This was an awesome video like all of yours!
About William not getting hypothermia, I believe the doctors words says it all. My bfs autistic youngerr brother, who sounds eerily similar to how William is described, is constantly prancing and jumping about, basically never standing still. It's not hard to imagine being a constant jitterbug will help keep your body heat up considerably.
My parents would take us to a lake every year, we'd hike around a 6 mile lake. I was in 4th grade & tried to hike it alone, got lost, and followed a creek to the next town, another 3 miles past the lake, all by the late afternoon. Stop assuming kids can't hike far, especially if they're scared & think home is just a hill away.
I'm actually from Melbourne and have been to places that are similar or relatively nearby where the second kid was found, skiing or on school camps etc. Hills in the bush like where he was found are surprisingly tough to make your way through even for an adult so it's pretty incredible that he got so far away on his own. It's definitely not impossible to do it as a kid over such a long period of time but surprising nonetheless
I have a theory. I think all of this is tied around a couple of factors: Brainwaves (high intelligence and mental disorders), EM fields and their conductors (e.g., granite), and the "veil" between the 3rd and 4th dimension. I think these disappearances happen both by accident and on purpose (malicious entities). Adults are very rarely returned alive and kids seem to reappear as if out of nowhere. I also found it interesting that the officer that spotted him used the words "a flash of something," to describe when he found him. I don't think this was just a saying. I believe he literally saw the flash of him returning. His clothes were dark (black and a darker red), which blended well with his environment and I believe would not have been easily spotted. I also believe the distortion of time occurs in this place and to him, he was only gone a day or so. There's a lot more to these theories, but that's all they are for now. I wish I had the funds to test some of these areas.
So so lovely to be able to listen to a fellow northener narrating interesting mysteries on youtube. I've always enjoyed a good mystery and, now that I live on the south coast, I particularly appreciate your northern tones. Great channel!
I can tell you that when you're extremely cold that your feet go cold first and inside of a shoe inside of your sock after point it actually holds in the cold instead of getting rid of it. So people will sit down and take their shoes and socks off and hold them with their hands trying to warm their feet your feet will get so cold to the point at specially if they get wet you have to take your shoes off if they get wet there's a few reasons that people that go missing in the woods when it's cold would take their shoes off especially if they're tromping around in snow which I hear on a lot of other Missing 411 cases that it snowed and the people were found missing their shoes it's possible that the snow got in their shoes got wet and they stopped to warm their feet and something happened after that 100% possible and I know this because I was homeless for a while and whenever your feet would get wet it would be better to wear no socks inside of a shoe that was what it would actually be much warmer than a wet sock and when you stop you want to take your feet out of your shoe and warm than with your hands. So that's what I think happened
I've said it before, people way underestimate children. I grew up partially the mountains of southern California where they've got some harsh conditions such as snow, ice, mudslides, freezing temperatures, and deadly animals like coyotes, bears, cougars, and rattlesnakes. My sister and I would wander around for miles and miles and miles. We were always ending up in places people swore a child of our age (4-9) could never make it alone on foot without supplies. Hell, even the plants there were deadly (try falling into a juniper some time), and we always survived and got miles away from town lost up in the mountains where adults would die. The other half of my childhood (9-16) was spent in southern Mississippi swamps and woodland. Even at 10, I'd find myself "lost" in the woods for days at a time only to come wandering back out and hear someone swear to the everyone that there was no way my little sister and I could have survived days out there alone or gotten as many miles away from home as we had. We did it pretty much every summer at least once. When a kid is energetic and curious, nothing will stop them from doing whatever they want; including moving through 20+ miles of dense forest or desert. When you're young and curious, you're also strangely immortal in your own mind and even the lack of food can be an excuse to have more fun (like tying a string on a stick to go fishing), instead of being a reason to run back home.
When hiking, you’d be surprised how much distance you can travel especially if you are lost in thought or in your own little world. 2 miles( even say- 4 or 6 miles) isn’t odd.
Also, long story short... 4 years ago almost exactly to date, I got lost on the glacier in Himalayas with 2 other people. We ended up being there at night when a random dog that accompanied us all day, brought help. By the time we were found, my feet were literally frozen. When I got to the village, I got a bowl of hot water and put my feet in it. I then noticed that I had ever so tiny but still visible frost note on my big toe that was expelled by my body months after the incident. So having that experience, I honestly cannot imagine why would anybody like to remove their shoes when the temperatures are so low.
Alright, older video but yeah. I'm autistic and was non verbal for years but eventually got a bit better (now i can't shut up). I was low functioning but am now considered high functioning. My family says i have super powers, i can't feel anxiety or pain, at least the way other people do. I also have a much higher metabolism which causes me to generate a lot of warmth. It seems unlikely that its related, but used to see a teepee made of light that hurt to look at. I know that shouldn't exist but it did. I think anyway. It's hard to talk about. My dad told me i imagined it to make me feel safe when i was alone, but it would just show up. It could just be like an imaginary friend, but i don't know. I sometimes have a hard time telling real memories from made up memories. I had a strange imagination when i was younger. Its like i have two memories, the real ones and the made up ones. If all of the made up ones were real, the world is a much stranger place than people think. I remembered something else, i used to see shadows in the woods. Like people literally made of shadows. They terrified me. I've read that some people hallucinate shadows moving on their own, it makes sense that maybe people that see them are other autistic people. As a young kid i was very scared of manikins because i was worried they would chase me (I dunno, they don't have faces and look like people, Autistic kids don't think like other people, things are terrifying that shouldn't be, and things that dont make sense make perfect sense to us.). Maybe what the second boy was so scared of was shadows. Trees have really scary shadows, they're constantly moving and waving around. I know i was scared of trees, and dogs are always barking at them so it's not even just us either. Take all of this with a grain of salt, just because i can function in normal society doesn't mean i'm normal or totally sane. Just sharing my two cents i guess.
I’ve heard different stories of people who go missing in mountains here in the states and often times they are found without socks and shoes or they find only their socks and shoes. It’s something no one understands but it happens a lot. Trying to think of how he stayed warm...that’s also been something recorded often are kids found like they have been taken care of almost. Climate didn’t affect them and they had been fed 🧐 Sometimes I can’t wrap my mind around these stories it simply doesn’t make sense
It was surprising to me when the medical experts shared their amazement at both of their conditions given the situation. I'd love to know more about what Luke was getting upto during his time missing
Yes and what blows my mind is the dog can't find there smells at all cadaver dogs can smell a dead body years after some one had passed it just makes no sense at all. and we may never know what happened to these people.
It might be related to starting to get trenchfoot symptoms after not having an easy way of drying out their socks/sneakers after rain/puddle/river/excessive sweating.
It truly is. It's easy to let yourself get lost in all of the bad possibilities that could happen. Finding a healthy balance is really hard. I have two beautiful teenage daughters that I don't think I'd want to live in a world without.
It's been awhile since I have visited the channel catching up now I like how you have started going on camera yourself for the commentary but you still put visual ques and different scenes in great job!
Its a feetish demon or what the hell seriously...if it would be a missing ear or whatever I would understand, but why footwear? Strange indeed.
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How about all the shoes that wash up in the beach in America/Canada with the feet inside. Apparently only one was traced to a missing person. Strange that only the shoes wash ashore. Maybe the sharks can’t eat the shoes, maybe they rot/disintegrate at a much slower rate, maybe the feet are the first to be come detached from the body. Very strange though. What does make sense is that if you wanted to keep someone prisoner, or prevent them from running away & escaping you, in the rough terrain of these National Parks, a good way would be to remove the persons socks & shoes. Close to Where I’m from in Yorkshire originally, has seen a few people Vanishing near waterways, & turning up Dead later found in the waterways. It’s not the number like in Manchester, but seems to be becoming more frequent.
@ yeah you def have a point about captors taking a person's shoes, I ran around barefoot in the woods (was running from the cops lol) and my feet got so cut up plus I got poison oak between my toes..ouch
Issues with sensory processing is a part of asd, which often means certain fabrics, types of clothing. I think shoes and/or socks are a pretty common one that bothers people. I know when I was working with non-verbal kids on the spectrum there was a lot of pulling off shoes and socks. And everyone has sensory things they don't like - food textures is a really common one across the board, the difference is just in how our bodies react to that. For someone on the spectrum it can go from unpleasant to totally overwhelming very quickly.
Every time I see disappearance like this I always wonder if there's some guy just living off grid in the woods who might've come across the kids and fed/clothed/looked after them for some time.
Excellent video as always Adam - yet again you've done a fantastic job of bringing these stories to us. Regarding the case of Luke Shambrook you'd said that you couldn't understand why the authorities were prepared to discount the apparent sighting of Luke at Devil's River (22:20) but didn't go into WHY they'd discounted the sighting. You said that you "imagined they'd done the math and came to the conclusion that Luke should not have been able to travel that kind of distance alone", when he was able to travel a similar distance to Skyline Road. It might not have been merely a question of distance - perhaps the route to Devil's River held more difficulties than the route to Skyline Road - difficulties that aren't apparent to anyone who hasn't been in the area. Clearly I'm just speculating myself, but there seems to be a lot of minor waterways in the area - (ditches, streams, creeks, brooks, burns), depending upon where you come from, making it easier to travel to Skyline Road than Devils River, or a ravine, thick trees or brush, OR the police simply got it wrong.- not a criticism, as the police know far more about their own area than I could possibly know, and it's very easy to underestimate people's determination to survive - particularly a young boy with learning difficulties. Who knows? On a completely different note, earlier tonight @Bedtime Stories uploaded a video about disappearances in Victoria, Australia, though unfortunately none of the cases had happy endings.
Hey Ian - perhaps the route to Devil's River held more difficulties than the route to Skyline Road - difficulties that aren't apparent to anyone who hasn't been in the area." That's actually a great point and I should have considered that. Yeah, it could've been that the route was just so harsh that they didn't think it could be achieved in the time period, where Skyline road was easier to navigate in the same time. I'm absolutely going to check their video out. Love me some @Bedtime Stories haha
I live in the great Smokey Mountains of North Carolina in the USA. There are several places here with names like that. The main one is Devil's Courthouse. One place I have never had the urge to visit. It is a strange place. Everyone I know says it gives them a bad feeling just going near it.
I live in the woods in the middle of nowhere. There is a unknown being that flies around and picks off the strays. It comes around every Fall. My relative seen something fly by the usual hot spot. It was huge.
Byron Dixon I was recording an incident last year but the camera glitched. There was a drizzle out and it was cold and windy. That could have caused the time skip in the video. I was only able to hear it. I recorded for 5 minutes and I ended up with 1:24 of video. But I can try again. My relative seen it 2 weeks ago and it’s getting bold. There is a small chance I can get a picture. My relative had a 5 second video of another being that could be the same thing. If she still has it I can try and post it somewhere. It looks like Jeepers Creepers or the Mothman.
I'm on the spectrum, and when I'm agitated I heat up a lot, enough that other people can feel the radiant heat. I do get cold very easily otherwise though, as well as having cold urticaria :P
Heya Tess, yeah I'm now realizing that I dismissed that far too quickly and probably even unfairly. Lots of people are agreeing with you so it looks like I have some reading to catch up on, there's probably some journals on that
I hope I can explain this properly. A 'Drama in Real Life', (Canadian Reader's Digest), story told how an Innuit man fell through the ice and his friend tried to pull him out but couldn't. The one in the water told the other to go back to the village and get a snowmobile. His friend walked and ran and returned about 3? hours later. (My numbers may be off, it's been years since I read this.) His friend was still treading water and was rescued. He was a little cold. Another story I read was a white man had an indigenous friend. The friend's father made them go out one winter with just a t-shirt and pants. I think they had footwear. They were told to overcome the cold. Get used to it so they could survive in rugged situations. He did. When he was out in the bush after that he found he needed little winter clothing. A mind over matter? Maybe the autistic children don't know they're not supposed to stay warm when lost in the bush for days? Also, I watched a t.v. program that said when you're concentrating hard, you'll find yourself sweating. I have often. Been outdoors when it's very cold and find I'm sweating. Maybe they have their thoughts so focused they stayed warm. As autistics do repetitive behaviours, might this not concentrate their thoughts and cause them to stay warm? The second story I mentioned came from a biography I read about 45 years ago. I don't remember the title.
I’m from Australia, I remember following Williams case . I thought for sure we were going to have a bad outcome as it was so cold. Very strange how well he was. I even wondered if he was held somewhere, it’s just strange. Excellent video as always 👍👍🇦🇺🇦🇺🐨🐨👍👍
So there are people who are very into meditating or some that work as Illusionists who are able to control their heart rate and breathing at remarkable levels, almost superhuman. Maybe these young boys are somehow able to raise or lower their body temperature based on some type of meditative state. I know that sounds very far-fetched but we don't know what goes on in the minds of those on the Spectrum. What we do know is that they are generally highly intelligent but their communication and emotional processing skills are the issue that makes them special.
I am a Canadian. I have many experiences from a Lifetime of being on the Land. I am stumped over the feet not being more damaged and that the young man wasn’t more damaged because of them. We were always taught to, “…take care of your feet and your feet will take care of you.” I am a person who has been inside the Arctic Circle, as well as time spent in other challenging activities, in other climates. I just don’t get it…🇨🇦
This reminded me of the little toddler who went missing from just outside his home in the US. He was found, safe and well, shortly after and talked about how a large, kind wolf - who could fly - had looked after him, kept him warm and bought him berries to eat. So relieved that the young boys were found safe and well. Fantastic video, Top Mysteries! Many thanks for posting - and please keep 'em coming! 🤓
I think William saying his body felt weird might refer to hunger? If he's anything like me he may not recognise hunger well. I'm autistic and diabetic and quite often I'll only eat if I need to due to my diabetes. Sometimes I'll feel uncomfortable if I haven't eaten for a long time, but the feeling doesn't automatically make me want to eat and I've had to learn to associate it with food. I don't actually know if it's related to autism or not, it was just my first thought.
Luke's story especially was very eerie. I do feel for him. Whatever happened, the poor fellow is traumatised and there is something that happened with/in the vicinity of trees. Thank you again for the sheer depth of research, you really put the time in and it shows :)
Well done for showing more of your face, i'm sure it must have been daunting , i think it makes a great difference, keep up the GREAT work!! Warren, Thailand.
Hey man, great work as always, but to be honest I much more prefer the "old" format, without face cam, it was more atphosmeric. Keep up the good work anyway!
That's fair! I don't plan on doing away with the old format altogether - I was going crazy doing the same thing over and over and needed a change. When it's a video like this one, I'll have my picture in the thumbnail so you can see what it is and if you want to watch it or not. The more atmospheric productions won't have me in them
Not that your a bad looking man, no the forest video adds so much to the story. So yeah i prefer the old format but a once in a while thing would be great too.
@@MissingVoidTV Your video productions are so well researched and so very interesting! Being able to see you as you relay the information is a bonus and a welcome change imo. If some viewers don’t want to watch, they can always scroll down the page away from the visual and just listen. As they say, variety is the spice of life and there is certainly nothing wrong with change. Please create your videos in whatever format you choose, and know that the viewers who truly appreciate your talents will applaud your decisions. Have a great week and thanks for all you do.
@@KarenSmith-pc8ji Heya Karen, I'm glad you like this way of doing the videos too. If I was to be honest, I think one of the problems I've had with the "old" format, which isn't really accurate because there will be more like that. - The real problem is that I feel like I evolved that format into a position where I didn't really know where to go with it and how to improve it. I'm a one-man team, I do all of the research, collect all of the footage, images, edit all of them,, and then produce and edit the videos and everything that then entails. Other channels have been able to get other people on board whether that be friends or staff. I think that they have been able to achieve that because they take a lot of sponsorship deals so they have far more revenue than I ever will. I have only ever accepted one and I didn't enjoy doing it and am incredibly unlikely to do it again because I think it damages integrity to some degree. (I would make an exception for things that improve safety in wilderness areas.) Obviously, having more people on board means that there is a lot of flexibility with the format and you can really ramp up improvement/production quality whereas I don't have that luxury so I was stuck in a position where I felt like it was as good as it was going to get. Doing videos in this current format feels more personal and I think it also shows that this is a topic that I take seriously and I do my homework. Doing it this way I think also paves the way into a more journalistic role too, which is where I'd like to take myself. I do have plans to go to lots of rural areas within the UK where individuals have gone missing without a trace and to document what happened. So, I suppose for now, I have a big list of things of what I want to improve on and how to take this format further and marry it with the previous, so we'll have to see where it goes.
@@MissingVoidTV Hi Adam, thanks for your reply. I’m surprised that you are a one man show, so to speak, as your research and production are both very impressive and that usually requires more than one person to accomplish it well. Additionally, it is obvious that you care deeply about the topics you present and that really comes through when you are speaking directly to your viewers. Evolving into a more journalistic route sounds like a perfect idea for you as it’s clear that you have natural talents that are necessary for that. No doubt the decision to add sponsors is a personal and maybe a tough one but in today’s world it appears that most viewers and subscribers don’t mind one or two ads per video. Imo, most viewers understand that a revenue stream for a channel is important. And particularly when there is high value in the channel, such as yours. Viewers can see that you spend a lot of time and energy with research and presentation and it makes a difference. Your idea of going on location to document the facts and reports is very interesting and it would add to your mix of styles in your productions. I’m excited to see where you take all of this as you continue to grow and evolve. Once you prioritize your list of things you want to do, you’ll most likely be amazed with how well it all comes together. Have a great week.
What I find interesting about Will's story is the mention that he was with his biological father and not his step father or biological mother. Recently, it has been pointed out that Missing 411 children tend to vanish at a higher rate when their biological mother isn't around. There seems to be a historical reference to this because in Medieval Europe, women were told never to leave their children, even just with the farther or grandparents, cause a child without his mother is targeted for kidnapping by the fairies.
Hey everyone, I'm looking forward to hearing the discussions on William and Luke so do share your thoughts. There was a lot of surprise shared amongst the searchers, parents and medical staff - what do you make of that? And if you spend a lot of time in wilderness / mountainous areas then please do share your knowledge with us too.
Also, I'm aware that I am looking away at my notes far too frequently during this one, but I have a solution for the next one so that shouldn't be a problem again!
You have done a wonderful job in researching these incidents. You are right about more being involved than meets the eye. My bet, nature spirits of some kind, living in the tops of trees maybe. Great, great job mate, thanks hugely.
Hey are those moon lights in the background?
Absolutely are absolute! 👍
@@akristen4971 I'm not sure, I think that it could potentially provide some benefits but some quite severe drawbacks too. I actually think that there may be more to autistic people running hotter than others, than I first thought. On the other hand, as one of medical experts suggested, having autism might severely affect the ability to assess risk. I'm with Luke's parents, I'd love to see a snapshot of what exactly happened overnight
Top Mysteries no problem with you looking at your notes. Excellent video as always 👍
"he does like food and water" ... me too man...me too
I can relate
Lol🤣
Me likes beer..
‘Lack’ food and water.
Lol I thought the same who dosent like food and water lol but I think he said lacks not likes lol
I know next to nothing about autism, but it was suggested, particularly in Luke's case, that he might not have known that he was lost - would it be ridiculous to suggest that this may have helped?
When in dire situations people often panic, which can exacerbate the problem that they are facing, perhaps making bad decisions.
These two boys didn't panic, maybe not realising how perilous their respective situations were - they seemed to remain quite calm, which meant that they didn't take risks.
As bizarre as it sounds they might have almost enjoyed the relative peace, which might have, in turn, helped them to survive.
Mount disappointment. Just think of the first guy to climb to the top and thought "wow, this view sucks."
That's hilarious and I actually think that's exactly what happened 😂
That's too funny
i'm crying XD
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And it also looks like after the disappointing view, the guy pulled his groin on the way down 😂
I have zero experience with autistic people. One of the things that I have learned doing high incline-high altitude SAR over the years, is that the differences in ability to get along, if you will, in climate extremes by people, is sometimes dumbfounding. In one case, 7 kids (12-14 yrs. old) survived above 10,000 ft. up a mountain, in sub zero temps for a week, with no cold weather gear and two Snickers bars and were in great shape, when we found them. NO hyperthermia, frost bite or any harm what so ever, not even bruising. On the other hand two healthy people in their 20s died in under 24 hours in temps that got no lower than the mid 40s F (7-8C) from hypothermia. Both groups were dressed similarly. I have stopped being surprised. Near as I can tell attitude makes more of a difference than anything else, in these situations. I wish that I had answers when grieving relatives ask me why, their loved ones didn't make it or I fail to find them.
dude, thank you for your service, that sounds incredibly difficult! thanks for sharing that, very interesting.
Bless you for doing this. I don't think I could handle facing the families.
Thank you for your service and insights ✌💛🙏
That's truly mind boggling. So little logic to who makes it and who doesn't
interesting, I wonder if the kids had been taught if they were stranded to keep moving every hour - jumping jacks, stretches, etc, keeps the blood moving and huddle together as close as possible when it is cold, keep moving so that each person gets same amount of warmth - don't leave same persons(s) on ground and on top, move positions frequently - Just a thought and thanks for your service !!!!
Always with the strange area names, Mount Disappointment, Devil's Cove, Devil's River.
Yeah, I'd love to know how Devil's Cove got it's name
I like to think the first person was so excited to climb that little mountain, got to the top, looked around & said "well this is a disappointment" then told all their friends that it wasn't all that. Like how else would one come up with a name like that? Lol
My area have trails called "the devils backbone" and "the devils bathtub". Recently the later was in the news for a bunch of people.getting stranded due to flooding. Maybe these trails have this warning for a reason. 🤔
I was commenting the same thing to my son! No one gets lost in places like Sunshine Ridge or Smiling Valley 🤷♀️😳🤔
I can partly answer that,in older countries it’s a case of adopting the name because something happens there that was murder or disappearances just plain spooky.In the country’s only recently settled (100’s not 1000’s) by europeans it was a hard slog in unknown territory and they truly believed in the devil and having your soul snatched away by some evil entity having the devil in the name was a warning or description of the place you were in the devil of a mountain that’s a devil of a desert pass it was also kind of used to vilify the ancient historical grounds burial or otherwise believed the shamans to be witches.
My son is a high functioning autism, and even now at thirty, he only puts shoes on if he's going to work, and even on the coldest winter day he will only wear a small light summer jacket. He says the cold doesn't bother him, and that he can't stand the heat when he's walking somewhere.
My guess is the children in question were walking constantly, day and night, so the cold won't have bothered them much. It will also probably be the reason one has the injuries of an athlete, with constantly walking for so many days.
My nephew is severely autistic (cannot communicate at all), but he is always warm and will take his clothes off (all of them!) whatever the weather!
My oldest son is high functioning Aspergers. He also has a genius IQ of 143. He is exactly the same as your son regarding temperature and is really sensitive to texture. Only wears shoes when he goes to work, has no detection of cold but overheats easily. We live in Alaska where -40F is not uncommon in the winter and I have to remind him to wear a thicker coat, his thermal socks and a hat and gloves. He’d rather wear his windbreaker. He also is freakishly strong and has incredible LE accurate eye/hand coordination. I have a friend who’s son is low functioning autistic and he has the cold thing too. Interesting. I prefer the cold( sleep with air conditioner on or window open at night through the winter) so not sure if it’s hereditary or autistic related.
@@kelligray1848 My son is also high functioning Aspergers also, as is my wife and she's the same, she also has two degrees, one in science and one in nutrition. We have recently found out, worked out, Aspergers runs in her side of the family. For anyone else who may be read this and be interested in Aspergers check out National autistic society, this is a uk website.
Strange. My kids are the same way. Very particular about clothing and always wanting to wear as little or as light clothing as possible. Like no matter the weather. So many similarities of the folks here and/or their loved ones. Very strange indeed....but thanks for sharing. Everyone. I'm actually kinda shocked at the common occurances I see by others. Things like that...specifically those particular things...shouldn't exactly be common, yet here we all are. Incredible.
@@HellaQuinn Before I was diagnosed (very late diagnosis of full blown ADD) I went to a conference to see Mary Rodwell who is a woman who lives in Australia who works with children with Autism Aspbergers and ADD as well as adult contactees ( of paranormal encounters) and she has some very interesting theories regarding the instances of Autism Aspbergers and ADD in that she conveyed a philosophy whereby those with these conditions\brain differences also have souls that are bigger than their body computer is able to withstand.
My theory is with very fast neural synapses and different abilities to maintain (and contain\stay within) certain states of energy that these individuals similar to myself are able to in many cases withstand conditions that would otherwise be considered non-withstandable to others who do not have the same conditions -- this is not to say that those on the spectrum do not have our own vulnerabilities as we absolutely do but the way we function and cognate and endure different stimuli and phenomena and environments can be considerably different and not the typical trajectory of the 'norm'.
We seem to use more energy (even if its not visible externally) within our bodies (physical emotional and other) because of the high rate of processing information and multiple points of focus at once.
My brothers have the same thing where they don't need to wear many layers in the winter either (shorts and shirt!) and I believe that it has a lot to do with the feeling of restriction vs freedom and also the sense of familiarity when certain clothing is worn and reworn over and over despite seasonal suitability.
Texture has always been a really big point of contention for me and temperature has also been problematic my whole life too.
An old friend of mine has a niece who was non-verbal and they didn't seem to want to make an effort to comprehend what she was trying to convey - One day they put her boots on and dragged her by the arm into the backyard to go and feed the animals - they couldnt understand why she was kicking up a fuss but I knew - I just knew what it was - I knew the reason why she was getting antsy was because the tongue in the boot was folded over and was uncomfortable for her - as soon as I gauged this she turned around and looked straight at me and smiled.
Just one suggestion for the doctors in these rescue cases. Examine the poop! I'm serious, poop could tell them if and what they had eaten. Might prove useful.
That's a good idea, but I think doctors in rescue situations are concerned with stabilizing the patient and treating injuries. Fecal analysis costs money, and I doubt anyone would be willing to pay for it, as it is not tied to a medical condition the patient is currently being treated for. Maybe the family could pay for it (but I'm sure that fecal analysis would be last on their list of important expenses right after their missing child is found)
Definitely useful in cases where they are less fortunate, and are not found in time.
@@lilacsnroses247 yes, good point
Great idea and one you meet want to suffer to search and rescue groups. If nothing else, I'm sure the parents would want to know what happened to their child while they were gone!!
Maybe thermal imaging cameras are not so good for finding people. Maybe if someone is under a tree branch or partly under an overhanging rock that is enough to easily obscure them from a thermal imaging camera above them?
I’m a mother of a highly functioning autistic young man. When he was around 4, he left the house with no warning. We couldn’t find him. He wouldn’t answer. I had the idea to give him a command as he would usually answer me, so I did and we found him quickly after that. I’m only telling this story to hopefully someday help in a rescue attempt if, god forbid, a boy or girl goes missing again.
It was heartbreaking to hear the second young boy was so afraid of the trees after his ordeal. It would seem he was remembering something he saw there or perhaps that was his way of telling his story of what happened while he was lost.
I did this for my youngest. We turned it into a game of sorts.
So the people 4 wheeling didn’t find it odd to see a little boy sitting alone on a log in the middle of nowhere and didn’t stop and see if he was ok???
That's what I was thinking!
Right?
Very suspicious. You think they would have thought to themselves “Why is that kid sitting alone?” I would’ve done that.
Seriously I thought the same thing. And yes people are fucking stupid! Beyond fucking stupid but there’s a absolutely no excuse to see a kid in the middle of bum fuck nowhere and not think it was fucking odd! Wtf!! 🤔
I think the boy was further away from them. They could see him but maybe couldn’t get to him.
I used to work with children on the Autistic spectrum and whilst some were very fearful of various things , some had no fear of anything . Perhaps being lacking in any fear actually contributed to the boys survival . There was a case in Australia where an autistic lad became separated from his family . He loved swimming and spent hours swimming down a crocodile infested creek . He was spotted in the water eventually and safely reunited with his family . Rescuers were baffled as to why no crocs had attacked him . Thanks for the video , fascinating stuff 👍♥️
Clearly they sensed his ultra chad "NO FEAR IN ME" lifestyle, lol. Bless this child indeed.
He wasn't a threat...and he was acting like he was one of them. Nothing to see here...just a scale-less crocodile passing through! A lot of animals can sense fear (that's what prompts them to attack) and this boy obviously had NO fear of the crocs.
"standing still and staring at the tops of the trees" jeez man, are you trying to give me terminal goosebumps?! Great video, so happy the turnout for both of these little dudes was positive. I hope they aren't too traumatized. Couple of little superheroes.
So a family saw Luke on his own sat on a bench and didn't think to stop and see if he was OK? Unbelievable!!!!
I have autism, and my family has a genetic mutation that causes mitochondrial dysfunction. That gene is likely why I have autism, and it also causes several other nervous system disorders. My nervous system doesn't automatically regulate things that it's supposed to. For example I faint often while standing because my nervous system doesn't redirect the blood like it should. I also experience huge temperature swings that have no apparent cause. Usually I will have a temperature of 95 - 97 which is cool but normal. When it dips below 95 I become extremely nauseous, and need a lot of sugar and hot liquids to keep functioning. I usually get at least one fever a month, and sometimes have to go outside with no coat to cool off. Sometimes it is just my hands that get extremely hot or cold (Raynauds syndrome)
I don't know if any of those things would help survive cold weather, but I do know these things are frequently comorbid with autism, and when kids complain about them they go undiagnosed as it is all blamed on the autism.
Cases like Luke's perplex me in there are so many where "people come across" a child alone in the woods and don't immediately contact authorities and remain with that child until help arrives.
IKR!! It’s just crazy to me too
These ppl are heartless and dont like children. Most likely they are in the wilderness to being with because they are anti social and prefer to be alone. So what makes u think they like ppl or let alone an innocent child. It's the cold hard truth. They should just admit they didn't give an f
@@chrisabshire82 I'm kinda antisocial and not crazy about kids (ask my own lol) but I would stop everything if I were in that situation until the child was safe.
It's only been the last forty yrs or so that a lone kid would be considered odd. I used to wander the woods alone for hours at a time from 5yrs on, granted I live in VT, not the city. Now ppl call the police if u let your ten yrs old walk to the store, even though the world is the safest it's ever been. Almost like it's designed so people will easily turn on their neighbor- they don't know them after all(too busy hiding inside).🤷🏻♀️
@@sarahoshea9603 I am old enough to remember that freedom! We used to ride the train walk or ride bikes all over play in the woods never a worry.
Wow, it’s just incredible that both boys were found safe and well.
100% agreed Sara
You looking away is not a problem. We don't expect you to memorize everything. 🙂 Really enjoy your show. Children are more resilient than we give them credit for.
Yes Laura. I noticed that the usual few, if any who even survive plane crashes are babies and young children. I agree that children survive while all the other adults don't. I wonder if it's maybe bcz being at an age where they don't yet understand, that they don't panic or know fear. Or perhaps they have been guided to safety by Angels. Who knows!
@@johanna5688 I've heard that "bracing yourself" in car crashes causes more injuries and is why when hit by a drunk driver the drunk often survives but not the sober driver. Kids may not have that awareness of impending impact so they don't tense up their bodies like an adult instinctively does.
As the mother of two high functioning autistic kids, I can tell you that shoes are the first thing to come off at any opportunity. My daughter freaks out the neighbors when she goes out barefoot in the snow. My son has had a couple of rounds of what we call wild goose chasing, and it is amazing how fast a small child can cover distance.
I don't think I would take a chance on going anywhere near a place called "Mt.Dissapointment".There must be an explanation for the name of that place.This is scary!
Right? What gets me about most of these cases is how a person can just up and disappear without anyone seeing a trace of them, like to the point where dogs can't even find them, as if they never existed. Or they travel a great distance without anyone knowing how it was possible. Very strange.
That's how I feel about Death Valley. It has nothing to offer me, even in the winter.
Nah, that's simply what us aussie people name places. Mt Buggery, Mt Disappointment, Poowong, Nar nar goon... ya gotta love it
@@MrsEricaWH In 1979 our School Camp was at Mt Disappointment, it was used by many schools and groups
@@MrJaz8088 and ironic to this story, it's a beautiful place. Much like a lot of the alpine areas the only place I dont like is some of the campgrounds which can become quite swamp-like after any snow melts. School camp there would've been awesome.
I definitely like this style of a mix between shots of yourself and also the backgrounds and landscapes incorporated. A good balance.
Cheers Brian, trying to get a nice balance was the plan. I'll keep working at it, I could probably fit some more in there
I agree as well. Keep up the format Top Mysteries!!:)
Not gonna lie, got a bit emotional seeing the footage of the 2nd boy being found/rescued
Amazing cases! I was just about in tears when the rescuers found Luke.
I think it’s a credit to humanity that when a complete stranger goes missing, hundreds of people will search day and night in the cold and in tough terrain to find them.
I really enjoy your channel, you don’t sensationalize the cases but show real concern and have a caring demeanor.
These two cases are perfect examples of Missing 411 for children--including the "no idea how he got that far, but, you know, kids are weird, who cares." They were clean, in shockingly good condition. But nobody wants to conclude "Then he was not out there in the cold on his own" Their impairments also fit the the profile and being found where other people had already looked. People will do ANYTHING to avoid accepting the myster that is 411 because it's just too terrifying.
Seems like a 411 disappearance for the first one. Interesting how the second boy was found. Wonderful they were both found.
As a psych student wanting to work with kids and growing up with a family member with autism, your feedback and narration really touched me. Thank you for addicting education and empathy to thos video 😊
Hey Rachel! I was in an educator role with children with SEN and it was amazing. I think about it a lot and I actually miss doing it, my original plan was to get into counselling specific to SEN. Definitely a great career path in terms of making a difference to these young people's lives, I'm sure that you'll love it
@@MissingVoidTV you have a very special and unique gift, I feel like your level or empathy is on another level. It appears like you can understand such a wide variety if experiences in really complex unique environments. But in all of that you manage to appear logical and as if you don't take on others emotions, you empathise but you realise that their experience is not yours. I could be wrong but either way if you ever end up working in mental health again, I think you'd be an asset, the industry would benefit from more people like you
As a mother of a non verbal autistic 12 year old, I appreciate you stopping to explaining about autism.
As far as the shoes go, that's pretty normal. My son hates wearing shoes.
They also don't feel pain and such as much as "normal" people do. My son has hurt himself pretty badly and it doesn't even register in his mind is always so busy. (Honesty they really are like super humans in a way)
I remember both these cases and the relief I felt for all them when they were found.
Most people with autism who go missing aren't so lucky, alot of then end up in bodies of water.
I have a GPS tracker for my son, just in case.
And I no longer go out on walks or really out at all anymore being I'm a single mom of two and knowing how easy it is for my son to take off. (I've had one to many close calls).
Yes! My eldest has had a fractured arm and wrist and didn't show any pain. It was only the swelling that made us go to hospital. She also walked about for 2 weeks on a fractured heal.
Im on the spectrum and often go wildcamping with next to nothing in Winter as I really just don't feel the cold, any sort of hot temperature (25+ C) absolutely cripples me however.
Oh wow, that's actually really cool - not the being destroyed by the summer part haha! Yeah I'm now realizing that I dismissed that far too quickly and should have done some more reading on that area. Definitely my mistake on that one
Like my eldest. She never feels the cold, while the youngest doesn't react to high temperatures.
My son is similar. Can wear very little on cold days, although he can also wear a jacket in summer and be ok. However, in hot humid conditions he will be sick for days and unable to eat. I have noticed he has a high pain tolerance, though it's more like he feels pain yet doesn't express it - coming across and super stoic and super human.
That's crazy though couldn't it be dangerous?
Due to a spinal injury, I have trouble with my body self-regulating my temperature.
So getting warm, or cooled off is a preoccupation of mine. 🇨🇦
There was a 16 year old boy who went missing a few days ago in st Helen’s. He went off the trail with his group to use the bathroom and was gone. Search and rescue looked until night. Nothing. He was found walking out of the short trial 24 hours later. 1100 feet from where he had stepped off the trail to use the bathroom. They also found his shoes 500 feet from this trial.
I'm autistic, diagnosed later in life at 29. I am now 31 and I really appreciate how well you presented Autism and help others understand. I want to be like everyone else but clearly I struggle but in my case people often are surprised about my diagnosis and it's hard for them to believe which makes me really want to believe I am "normal" but fail lol. Just know that just because someone may not look capable doest mean they can't, just like in my case, I may look capable but honestly I can't sometimes and people push me without understanding that just because I look and act normal doesn't mean I can succeed like everyone else. BUT there are perks, not everyone can be as knowledgeable n passionate about off things. So I'm happy. I appreciate all who read this ❤️
I found a video of an interview with the Callaghan boy's mum and her partner. It was kind of bizarre how she spent more time talking about how tough it's been raising autistic kids, and thanking the boy's school and search party, than she did expressing concern or love. And at one point she said "He is loved... by everyone who comes across him," almost like she didn't like to say that she loved her kid. It did make me wonder about the family dynamics.
Frostbite is a possible cold weather injury as well, i would think being barefoot in cold weather would be a threat depending on the temperature. These cases are so odd, probably beyond comprehension. Great video.
Thanks Adam. Enjoy your video. I have a nephew who's Autistic.
So sad when a child goes missing.
I grew up not far from Lake Eildon (pronounced Eel-Don, but named after the Eildon Hills in Scotland) and I have actually camped at Devil's cove. Very heavy bush around that area but there are tracks that weave through there and a couple of trickling creeks for water. Overnight it gets very chilly that time of year and you get heavy dews. Extremely lucky to have spotted him from the air.
On a side note - The Devil's river (and therefore cove) was named by John Hunter after seeing an Aboriginal corroboree on its banks the night he camped there. Entering the lake on the other side is the Delatite river (Delatite is the local Aboriginal name for devil).
The most mind blowing part of these disappearances is that these children survived THE NIGHT.. in the woods.. in very cold conditions.. because not only would it be extremely hazardous to navigate but did they even sleep? I wouldn't be able to sleep because I would be horrified at being lost and that alone would induce greater and greater exhaustion. It doesn't add up, man. These stories just don't add up.
My sons 11 now and was diagnosed with Autism at 3, he suffers with chronic skin conditions also. . He speaks now but was none verbal until about year 2 of primary school. Currently he goes to a school that specialises in language & communication. This video moved me, as that side of it was very relatable to me.
On the other side of it,
Its common knowledge that people at either end of the human spectrum go missing. On one hand you have physicians, doctors, scientists and athletes, on the other theres people/kids with physical or mental disabilities like Autism. Im curious as to wether more of the latter turn up alive than that of the former.
The way this boy acted after he was found is really strange also, it only leads to more questions.
If your a being or an entitie then the benefits of allowing a child with mental disabilities to live are great, as that child wouldnt be believed regardless. Coming to think of it, no child with or without disabilities has ever been taken seriously in these situations. Many kids have spoken out and all those cases involve high levels of strangeness and are peppered with abnormalities. Most those cases have been documented on this channel and are well worth a listen if your out the loop.
Theres a chance its coincidental have course, and all these cases are just simple misdirection or bad luck. Somehow though i highly doubt any of these cases are natual in nature. I have a few theroys personally but its nothing the standard M411 buff wont already have heard 50 times over.
Great video , ill look forward to the next one ...
Adam Warrington I have Aspergers. I personally believe people who are autistic/on the spectrum are very much in tune with the spirit/supernatural world. Alien abductions are also prominent in the autistic. I’m not trying to get all new age on this topic. I believe sensory perception is a part of it. Certain sounds bother me to the core. I can hear/feel frequencies others cannot. I could go on about this but I’ll stop here. It’s very sad people wont listen to what a child says whether he is autistic or not. I’ve never once told my kids they are imagining something or think they are making it up. I would like to dig deeper on the connection with autism and these disappearances.
@@blueeyedgypsy485 i hope my sons safe and he doesnt have any runnings with things of that nature. As a child myself about the age of 5 i started having very negative paranormal experiances in the house we lived in. It didnt ease up until we moved, but the experience still haunts me deeply to this day. As a fully grown man the impact of that experience still weighs heavy on my soul. Anything like that happening to my son is one of my greatest fears. I actually hoped his autism would have the opposite affect and keep him safer from all that stuff.
Thanks for in insight into the condition though, appreciate it. I struggle very much with my sons autism and negative behaviours and always strive to better understand him. That said our lifes far from easy, and im aware the spectrum is huge and vastly different in each case .
Adam Warrington I’d personally love to know more about your childhood experiences in that house, only if you are able to do it without upsetting yourself of course. I think it’s admirable your desire to protect your son from that... we need more dads like you around for sure.
@@blueeyedgypsy485 interesting, I hope you find the time and resources to look into it. Good luck!
@@chrislawuk im posting it now
I like this style of video where we can see you. It's great. Feels more intimate and relaxing. Keep up the awesome content my guy u rock
Cheers Bobby, I'm glad that you're preferring it. I'm enjoying changing it up a bit too
Yes. I think I refer this style too. And TM has a very peasant face to ook at - definitely not a"face for ony radio!" 🤓
I love your channel so much! I am so glad they found both of these kids alive! Thank you for your thorough research!
Thank you Ramona, and good lord me too - it was nice to be able to cover a couple of cases that had a much better outcome
This last case is a good example why I get frustrated when people say “ we searched for the missing kid for 4 or 5 days, surely he couldn’t have made it longer without food and water” and then cut off the search. I’ve heard it time and again. Searches should be mandated two weeks at least. Had an in law that got lost as sea and they all swore he’d be dead when they found him- nope- he was alive and not too shabby even being in the water and facing crazy harsh odds. I never assume anymore.
I agree
Hello Adam Top Mysteries ! My son has severe autism with learning problems. But oh boy he is showing me that living is far beyond what some believe. They are often tuned in on another "radio frequensy" than the rest of us are. He is also very phychic.😇 Heavy -hearted cases😔. Great that you bring awareness about people with autism on the table. Because some don't know a sh** and don't care for this unique human beings.🙄 Virtual hugs & thanks from me.🤗💞💝💞
Both cases are incredible. So creepy to think about. Great work!
We hear that Luke became anxious and preoccupied with the treetops. I wonder whether something that was in the trees was associated with his disappearance?
Good thinking..
I love listening to your videos with headphones in bed at night ♥️ you have a really nice voice to listen too ! Top content too 👌
Your voice is so nice
In the not, weird way haha
Like soothing
Haha! Thank you Ashley, I'm glad you like it
I agree!
Agreed as well! The right balance of calm logic and reason when explaining a mystery, not excited and not boring, but the right balance of interest and understanding. Big LIKE, as always!
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It’s the yorkshire accent...
So nice to hear that those boys are ok! ❤️🙏 Thank you for your work! I love your channel ❤️💐💐💐
Me too, I'm glad I came across these because I really wanted to cover some with a better ending than normal. And thank you for the support Julia ❤️!
It's odd! Both of these cases but yr video did shake a memory which may be something to think about esp when temperatures drop.
Many years ago I used to volunteer via my local council & the Education Dept. As a helper with school excursions & mainly wth special needs schools. Even though my background was in psychology, at the time of my volunteering id been taking a sabbatical from my usual work.
Anyway back to the point, I was helping teachers wth a trip to the Roman Wall ( quite near us in Northumberland) & the students were between 9 & 12 yrs & mid to high functioning autistic.
During this excursion in mid summer & as per usual wth English weather, the afternoon quickly turned really chilly & foggy & damp.
As we were quite a distance from our meet up destination & wth no shelter ( this area is quite desolate) most of the kids were shivering & miserable & we were trying to keep their spirits up by singing & marching like the Roman soldiers, the kids were being valiant but shuddering in the cold except this one lad, he wasnt wearing anything the others didn't wear, except he was beaming, huge smile on his face.
I walked beside him, smiling too & asked if he wasn't cold as all the others were & he said he wasn't cold at all. I asked him why that was & he said in his way of explaining that whenever he was cold he thought really hard of being in his house infront of his fireplace, lying on his red rug looking at faces in the fire then he wasn't cold anymore
I touched his hands & cheeks & he really was toasty warm.
Everyone else incl me was freezing hands faces bodies cold & shivery.
I can't say those missing lads in Australia could visualise something the way my student did to keep warm as no other student displayed this ability
& as you stated, autistic children can have extraordinary abilities.
I'd forgotten all about this incident until yr video tonight
But maybe these young boys had a similar coping mechanism & unable to describe it to rescuers
Police, even parents.
It's just a thought that may help understanding.
Love love love yr vids, can't praise your genuine concern & hard work into difficult areas you cover wth diligence & a fine tooth comb wthout being an A...
Hole! Thank you.
This is really interesting. I have been told that there is some thought/emerging evidence that there are differences with the processing of and the perception of pain amongst those who are neurodivergent (ASD, ADHD). On that basis it could be that temperature tolerance/reaction may also be different. I must look up the research on it one day!
Similar thing I was doing all my life ( especially when I was a kid ). When it was cold outside and kids around me were shivering I would be imagining that I am in a desert sweating under unbearable hot sun - it always worked without missing a beat.....
Power of autosuggestion is extremely strong and it can be used in many different ways for our benefit.
TL:DR. Crop it and be less of a blowhard
@@maveryk u dont hav 2 read it
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Hmm, I wonder if that is a kind of biofeedback?
By the way, I like the new format. So far nice blend of visual info, balanced with the shots of you. Puts a nice face on a very pleasant voice, to go with the info.
First I want to say how impressed I was with your knowledge about autism! My son is now 18 and he was diagnosed with Autism and is high functioning. These stories are so scary to me. I absolutely think there is more that happened we will most likely never know. I think David Paulides has covered these or some very similar. It's a common theme that shoes go missing. I have some weird theories on what is happening and I don't think it's only 1 reason. It's also common for children with disabilities to go missing more often than children without, which only brings more questions. I don't think it's because they wander off unless they are being lured away by something. I know my son wouldn't leave my side when he was growing up. This was an awesome video like all of yours!
This man should have way more subs, he is brilliant with editing and facts!
About William not getting hypothermia, I believe the doctors words says it all. My bfs autistic youngerr brother, who sounds eerily similar to how William is described, is constantly prancing and jumping about, basically never standing still. It's not hard to imagine being a constant jitterbug will help keep your body heat up considerably.
Absolutely incredible this 11 year old survive, Thank God and Rescuers
My parents would take us to a lake every year, we'd hike around a 6 mile lake. I was in 4th grade & tried to hike it alone, got lost, and followed a creek to the next town, another 3 miles past the lake, all by the late afternoon. Stop assuming kids can't hike far, especially if they're scared & think home is just a hill away.
I'm actually from Melbourne and have been to places that are similar or relatively nearby where the second kid was found, skiing or on school camps etc. Hills in the bush like where he was found are surprisingly tough to make your way through even for an adult so it's pretty incredible that he got so far away on his own. It's definitely not impossible to do it as a kid over such a long period of time but surprising nonetheless
I’m on the spectrum. I’m high functioning and only recently realised I had autism. Always thought I was just a bit odd.
I have a theory. I think all of this is tied around a couple of factors: Brainwaves (high intelligence and mental disorders), EM fields and their conductors (e.g., granite), and the "veil" between the 3rd and 4th dimension. I think these disappearances happen both by accident and on purpose (malicious entities). Adults are very rarely returned alive and kids seem to reappear as if out of nowhere. I also found it interesting that the officer that spotted him used the words "a flash of something," to describe when he found him. I don't think this was just a saying. I believe he literally saw the flash of him returning. His clothes were dark (black and a darker red), which blended well with his environment and I believe would not have been easily spotted. I also believe the distortion of time occurs in this place and to him, he was only gone a day or so. There's a lot more to these theories, but that's all they are for now. I wish I had the funds to test some of these areas.
Ya the 2nd one seems really odd. Especially the staring at the tops of the trees and being scared. Creepy.
So so lovely to be able to listen to a fellow northener narrating interesting mysteries on youtube. I've always enjoyed a good mystery and, now that I live on the south coast, I particularly appreciate your northern tones. Great channel!
I can tell you that when you're extremely cold that your feet go cold first and inside of a shoe inside of your sock after point it actually holds in the cold instead of getting rid of it. So people will sit down and take their shoes and socks off and hold them with their hands trying to warm their feet your feet will get so cold to the point at specially if they get wet you have to take your shoes off if they get wet there's a few reasons that people that go missing in the woods when it's cold would take their shoes off especially if they're tromping around in snow which I hear on a lot of other Missing 411 cases that it snowed and the people were found missing their shoes it's possible that the snow got in their shoes got wet and they stopped to warm their feet and something happened after that 100% possible and I know this because I was homeless for a while and whenever your feet would get wet it would be better to wear no socks inside of a shoe that was what it would actually be much warmer than a wet sock and when you stop you want to take your feet out of your shoe and warm than with your hands. So that's what I think happened
I've said it before, people way underestimate children.
I grew up partially the mountains of southern California where they've got some harsh conditions such as snow, ice, mudslides, freezing temperatures, and deadly animals like coyotes, bears, cougars, and rattlesnakes. My sister and I would wander around for miles and miles and miles. We were always ending up in places people swore a child of our age (4-9) could never make it alone on foot without supplies. Hell, even the plants there were deadly (try falling into a juniper some time), and we always survived and got miles away from town lost up in the mountains where adults would die.
The other half of my childhood (9-16) was spent in southern Mississippi swamps and woodland. Even at 10, I'd find myself "lost" in the woods for days at a time only to come wandering back out and hear someone swear to the everyone that there was no way my little sister and I could have survived days out there alone or gotten as many miles away from home as we had. We did it pretty much every summer at least once.
When a kid is energetic and curious, nothing will stop them from doing whatever they want; including moving through 20+ miles of dense forest or desert. When you're young and curious, you're also strangely immortal in your own mind and even the lack of food can be an excuse to have more fun (like tying a string on a stick to go fishing), instead of being a reason to run back home.
When hiking, you’d be surprised how much distance you can travel especially if you are lost in thought or in your own little world. 2 miles( even say- 4 or 6 miles) isn’t odd.
Also, long story short... 4 years ago almost exactly to date, I got lost on the glacier in Himalayas with 2 other people. We ended up being there at night when a random dog that accompanied us all day, brought help. By the time we were found, my feet were literally frozen. When I got to the village, I got a bowl of hot water and put my feet in it. I then noticed that I had ever so tiny but still visible frost note on my big toe that was expelled by my body months after the incident. So having that experience, I honestly cannot imagine why would anybody like to remove their shoes when the temperatures are so low.
This one hits too close to home being next to my disappointment.
Did find it really odd how he didn’t suffer much from the temperature.
Alright, older video but yeah. I'm autistic and was non verbal for years but eventually got a bit better (now i can't shut up). I was low functioning but am now considered high functioning. My family says i have super powers, i can't feel anxiety or pain, at least the way other people do. I also have a much higher metabolism which causes me to generate a lot of warmth. It seems unlikely that its related, but used to see a teepee made of light that hurt to look at. I know that shouldn't exist but it did. I think anyway. It's hard to talk about. My dad told me i imagined it to make me feel safe when i was alone, but it would just show up. It could just be like an imaginary friend, but i don't know. I sometimes have a hard time telling real memories from made up memories. I had a strange imagination when i was younger. Its like i have two memories, the real ones and the made up ones. If all of the made up ones were real, the world is a much stranger place than people think.
I remembered something else, i used to see shadows in the woods. Like people literally made of shadows. They terrified me. I've read that some people hallucinate shadows moving on their own, it makes sense that maybe people that see them are other autistic people. As a young kid i was very scared of manikins because i was worried they would chase me (I dunno, they don't have faces and look like people, Autistic kids don't think like other people, things are terrifying that shouldn't be, and things that dont make sense make perfect sense to us.). Maybe what the second boy was so scared of was shadows. Trees have really scary shadows, they're constantly moving and waving around. I know i was scared of trees, and dogs are always barking at them so it's not even just us either. Take all of this with a grain of salt, just because i can function in normal society doesn't mean i'm normal or totally sane. Just sharing my two cents i guess.
I’ve heard different stories of people who go missing in mountains here in the states and often times they are found without socks and shoes or they find only their socks and shoes. It’s something no one understands but it happens a lot. Trying to think of how he stayed warm...that’s also been something recorded often are kids found like they have been taken care of almost. Climate didn’t affect them and they had been fed 🧐
Sometimes I can’t wrap my mind around these stories it simply doesn’t make sense
It was surprising to me when the medical experts shared their amazement at both of their conditions given the situation. I'd love to know more about what Luke was getting upto during his time missing
Yes and what blows my mind is the dog can't find there smells at all cadaver dogs can smell a dead body years after some one had passed it just makes no sense at all. and we may never know what happened to these people.
Orion for some unknown reason, the people in these cases don’t seem to get hypothermia
Google "Paradoxical Undressing".
It might be related to starting to get trenchfoot symptoms after not having an easy way of drying out their socks/sneakers after rain/puddle/river/excessive sweating.
I like the new format. Seeing you host the videos adds a personal touch, which is nice. 👍🏼 Also, your room is very neat and tidy.
I love this format!
Excellent presentation 💕 I have been working with Autistic children for years. Absolutely love your voice! Looking forward to listening to more 😊
Having kids must be terrifying...
Yeah I know what you mean actually. I'd be like a hawk the entire time in an area like this
And incredibly amazing 😍 and sad and happy and thrilling and aggravating and worrying and they get better and better every single year.....
It truly is. It's easy to let yourself get lost in all of the bad possibilities that could happen. Finding a healthy balance is really hard. I have two beautiful teenage daughters that I don't think I'd want to live in a world without.
Yeah it is. Esp more than one. You got all that extra worry or anxiety. You basically can never sleep ever again.
Imagine living with your heart outside your body....
It's been awhile since I have visited the channel catching up now I like how you have started going on camera yourself for the commentary but you still put visual ques and different scenes in great job!
It's so weird that they are always missing their socks and shoes 🤔🤔
Agreed
Its a feetish demon or what the hell seriously...if it would be a missing ear or whatever I would understand, but why footwear? Strange indeed.
How about all the shoes that wash up in the beach in America/Canada with the feet inside. Apparently only one was traced to a missing person. Strange that only the shoes wash ashore. Maybe the sharks can’t eat the shoes, maybe they rot/disintegrate at a much slower rate, maybe the feet are the first to be come detached from the body. Very strange though. What does make sense is that if you wanted to keep someone prisoner, or prevent them from running away & escaping you, in the rough terrain of these National Parks, a good way would be to remove the persons socks & shoes. Close to Where I’m from in Yorkshire originally, has seen a few people
Vanishing near waterways, & turning up
Dead later found in the waterways. It’s not the number like in Manchester, but seems to be becoming more frequent.
@ yeah you def have a point about captors taking a person's shoes, I ran around barefoot in the woods (was running from the cops lol) and my feet got so cut up plus I got poison oak between my toes..ouch
Issues with sensory processing is a part of asd, which often means certain fabrics, types of clothing. I think shoes and/or socks are a pretty common one that bothers people. I know when I was working with non-verbal kids on the spectrum there was a lot of pulling off shoes and socks.
And everyone has sensory things they don't like - food textures is a really common one across the board, the difference is just in how our bodies react to that. For someone on the spectrum it can go from unpleasant to totally overwhelming very quickly.
Something kept these kids alive during the time they were missing .
Why a thumbs down if you haven't listened?
Good wishes.
Probably cuz that they suck yup that's it they suck.
free will
@Daniel Hertzler Good point.
@@PolumbiusTheThird Here's to that then.
Good wishes.
Trolls gotta troll...
This is brilliaNt I have followed this channel for awhile, you have great research ......the new format is great ....well done
Every time I see disappearance like this I always wonder if there's some guy just living off grid in the woods who might've come across the kids and fed/clothed/looked after them for some time.
What about the kids that are still missing and never found?
Guess you or your family has never experienced anything paranormal etc...
certainly seems like someone is doing some of these kids that courtesy, doesn't it?
Great vid Adam👍, enjoyed it. I love listening too the unexplained content. Keep up the great work
It’s odd to be joyed about getting a notification about a disappearance video but....
same
Excellent video as always Adam - yet again
you've done a fantastic job of bringing these stories to us.
Regarding the case of Luke Shambrook you'd said that you couldn't understand why the authorities were prepared to discount the apparent sighting of Luke at Devil's River (22:20) but didn't go into WHY they'd discounted the sighting. You said that you "imagined they'd done the math and came to the conclusion that Luke should not have been able to travel that kind of distance alone", when he was able to travel a similar distance to Skyline Road.
It might not have been merely a question of distance - perhaps the route to Devil's River held more difficulties than the route to Skyline Road - difficulties that aren't apparent to anyone who hasn't been in the area.
Clearly I'm just speculating myself, but there seems to be a lot of minor waterways in the area - (ditches, streams, creeks, brooks, burns), depending upon where you come from, making it easier to travel to Skyline Road than Devils River, or a ravine, thick trees or brush, OR the police simply got it wrong.- not a criticism, as the police know far more about their own area than I could possibly know, and it's very easy to underestimate people's determination to survive - particularly a young boy with learning difficulties.
Who knows?
On a completely different note, earlier tonight @Bedtime Stories uploaded a video about disappearances in Victoria, Australia, though unfortunately none of the cases had happy endings.
Hey Ian - perhaps the route to Devil's River held more difficulties than the route to Skyline Road - difficulties that aren't apparent to anyone who hasn't been in the area."
That's actually a great point and I should have considered that. Yeah, it could've been that the route was just so harsh that they didn't think it could be achieved in the time period, where Skyline road was easier to navigate in the same time.
I'm absolutely going to check their video out. Love me some @Bedtime Stories haha
I live in the great Smokey Mountains of North Carolina in the USA. There are several places here with names like that. The main one is Devil's Courthouse. One place I have never had the urge to visit. It is a strange place. Everyone I know says it gives them a bad feeling just going near it.
First time seeing this channel...absolutely didn't disappoint! Love your brogue =)
Thank you Brooke 🙂
I live in the woods in the middle of nowhere. There is a unknown being that flies around and picks off the strays. It comes around every Fall. My relative seen something fly by the usual hot spot. It was huge.
Could you be able to take pictures or videos of it?
Byron Dixon I was recording an incident last year but the camera glitched. There was a drizzle out and it was cold and windy. That could have caused the time skip in the video. I was only able to hear it. I recorded for 5 minutes and I ended up with 1:24 of video. But I can try again. My relative seen it 2 weeks ago and it’s getting bold. There is a small chance I can get a picture. My relative had a 5 second video of another being that could be the same thing. If she still has it I can try and post it somewhere. It looks like Jeepers Creepers or the Mothman.
@@Seraph89_ Sweet let us know if you post it.
@@Seraph89_ Oh my GOD!😱😱😱 How SCARY!
I truly believe that! Or the family member killed them n said they lost them
Grand job lad,lots of follow up information 👍🏼
I'm on the spectrum, and when I'm agitated I heat up a lot, enough that other people can feel the radiant heat. I do get cold very easily otherwise though, as well as having cold urticaria :P
Heya Tess, yeah I'm now realizing that I dismissed that far too quickly and probably even unfairly. Lots of people are agreeing with you so it looks like I have some reading to catch up on, there's probably some journals on that
I hope I can explain this properly. A 'Drama in Real Life', (Canadian Reader's Digest), story told how an Innuit man fell through the ice and his friend tried to pull him out but couldn't. The one in the water told the other to go back to the village and get a snowmobile. His friend walked and ran and returned about 3? hours later. (My numbers may be off, it's been years since I read this.) His friend was still treading water and was rescued. He was a little cold. Another story I read was a white man had an indigenous friend. The friend's father made them go out one winter with just a t-shirt and pants. I think they had footwear. They were told to overcome the cold. Get used to it so they could survive in rugged situations. He did. When he was out in the bush after that he found he needed little winter clothing. A mind over matter? Maybe the autistic children don't know they're not supposed to stay warm when lost in the bush for days? Also, I watched a t.v. program that said when you're concentrating hard, you'll find yourself sweating. I have often. Been outdoors when it's very cold and find I'm sweating. Maybe they have their thoughts so focused they stayed warm. As autistics do repetitive behaviours, might this not concentrate their thoughts and cause them to stay warm? The second story I mentioned came from a biography I read about 45 years ago. I don't remember the title.
mind over matter type of thing, very interesting what different humans are capable of in different situations.
I’m from Australia, I remember following Williams case . I thought for sure we were going to have a bad outcome as it was so cold. Very strange how well he was. I even wondered if he was held somewhere, it’s just strange.
Excellent video as always
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I like the new format man! Keep up the good work!
So there are people who are very into meditating or some that work as Illusionists who are able to control their heart rate and breathing at remarkable levels, almost superhuman. Maybe these young boys are somehow able to raise or lower their body temperature based on some type of meditative state. I know that sounds very far-fetched but we don't know what goes on in the minds of those on the Spectrum. What we do know is that they are generally highly intelligent but their communication and emotional processing skills are the issue that makes them special.
Tibetan Lamas claim the ability to regulate body temperature by bringing in energy from the ‘background’ to keep them warm in high mountains.
I am a Canadian.
I have many experiences from a Lifetime of being on the Land.
I am stumped over the feet not being more damaged and that the young man wasn’t more damaged because of them.
We were always taught to, “…take care of your feet and your feet will take care of you.”
I am a person who has been inside the Arctic Circle, as well as time spent in other challenging activities, in other climates.
I just don’t get it…🇨🇦
are Sasquatch very understanding and kind people, when they know a boy will be inoffensive to them even as an adult ?
This reminded me of the little toddler who went missing from just outside his home in the US. He was found, safe and well, shortly after and talked about how a large, kind wolf - who could fly - had looked after him, kept him warm and bought him berries to eat. So relieved that the young boys were found safe and well. Fantastic video, Top Mysteries! Many thanks for posting - and please keep 'em coming! 🤓
It was a bear. And it didn’t fly. Right about the berries tho
I'd be interested to hear what Wim Hof thinks about this case.
I just came across this channel. I’m really enjoying it thank you for the videos.
just imagine youre in the forest at night and all of a sudden you hear the thomas the tank engine soundtrack blasting through the trees xD
🤣🤣🤣🤣 sorry that absolutely just done me imagining that then 🤣 I would think I'd finally cracked if I heard that in the woods at night...
I think William saying his body felt weird might refer to hunger? If he's anything like me he may not recognise hunger well. I'm autistic and diabetic and quite often I'll only eat if I need to due to my diabetes. Sometimes I'll feel uncomfortable if I haven't eaten for a long time, but the feeling doesn't automatically make me want to eat and I've had to learn to associate it with food. I don't actually know if it's related to autism or not, it was just my first thought.
Great, interesting and excellent investigation of the facts.
Good that you link William's case to the Missing 411 project and its findings. You do a very thorough job investigating and explaining such cases.
Someone needs to make a fake baby with a tracker and take them out to the woods and like actually try to find whatever tf going on
Really well done never heard of any of these. Glad to have found the channel!
Luke's story especially was very eerie. I do feel for him. Whatever happened, the poor fellow is traumatised and there is something that happened with/in the vicinity of trees.
Thank you again for the sheer depth of research, you really put the time in and it shows :)
Well done for showing more of your face, i'm sure it must have been daunting , i think it makes a great difference, keep up the GREAT work!! Warren, Thailand.
Hey man, great work as always, but to be honest I much more prefer the "old" format, without face cam, it was more atphosmeric. Keep up the good work anyway!
That's fair! I don't plan on doing away with the old format altogether - I was going crazy doing the same thing over and over and needed a change. When it's a video like this one, I'll have my picture in the thumbnail so you can see what it is and if you want to watch it or not. The more atmospheric productions won't have me in them
Not that your a bad looking man, no the forest video adds so much to the story. So yeah i prefer the old format but a once in a while thing would be great too.
@@MissingVoidTV Your video productions are so well researched and so very interesting! Being able to see you as you relay the information is a bonus and a welcome change imo. If some viewers don’t want to watch, they can always scroll down the page away from the visual and just listen.
As they say, variety is the spice of life and there is certainly nothing wrong with change. Please create your videos in whatever format you choose, and know that the viewers who truly appreciate your talents will applaud your decisions. Have a great week and thanks for all you do.
@@KarenSmith-pc8ji Heya Karen, I'm glad you like this way of doing the videos too. If I was to be honest, I think one of the problems I've had with the "old" format, which isn't really accurate because there will be more like that. - The real problem is that I feel like I evolved that format into a position where I didn't really know where to go with it and how to improve it. I'm a one-man team, I do all of the research, collect all of the footage, images, edit all of them,, and then produce and edit the videos and everything that then entails.
Other channels have been able to get other people on board whether that be friends or staff. I think that they have been able to achieve that because they take a lot of sponsorship deals so they have far more revenue than I ever will. I have only ever accepted one and I didn't enjoy doing it and am incredibly unlikely to do it again because I think it damages integrity to some degree. (I would make an exception for things that improve safety in wilderness areas.)
Obviously, having more people on board means that there is a lot of flexibility with the format and you can really ramp up improvement/production quality whereas I don't have that luxury so I was stuck in a position where I felt like it was as good as it was going to get.
Doing videos in this current format feels more personal and I think it also shows that this is a topic that I take seriously and I do my homework. Doing it this way I think also paves the way into a more journalistic role too, which is where I'd like to take myself. I do have plans to go to lots of rural areas within the UK where individuals have gone missing without a trace and to document what happened.
So, I suppose for now, I have a big list of things of what I want to improve on and how to take this format further and marry it with the previous, so we'll have to see where it goes.
@@MissingVoidTV Hi Adam, thanks for your reply. I’m surprised that you are a one man show, so to speak, as your research and production are both very impressive and that usually requires more than one person to accomplish it well. Additionally, it is obvious that you care deeply about the topics you present and that really comes through when you are speaking directly to your viewers.
Evolving into a more journalistic route sounds like a perfect idea for you as it’s clear that you have natural talents that are necessary for that. No doubt the decision to add sponsors is a personal and maybe a tough one but in today’s world it appears that most viewers and subscribers don’t mind one or two ads per video. Imo, most viewers understand that a revenue stream for a channel is important. And particularly when there is high value in the channel, such as yours. Viewers can see that you spend a lot of time and energy with research and presentation and it makes a difference.
Your idea of going on location to document the facts and reports is very interesting and it would add to your mix of styles in your productions. I’m excited to see where you take all of this as you continue to grow and evolve. Once you prioritize your list of things you want to do, you’ll most likely be amazed with how well it all comes together. Have a great week.
What I find interesting about Will's story is the mention that he was with his biological father and not his step father or biological mother. Recently, it has been pointed out that Missing 411 children tend to vanish at a higher rate when their biological mother isn't around. There seems to be a historical reference to this because in Medieval Europe, women were told never to leave their children, even just with the farther or grandparents, cause a child without his mother is targeted for kidnapping by the fairies.