The Collision of the SS Cedarville
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- Опубліковано 18 бер 2024
- #history #disaster
On the 7th of May, 1965, a vessel from the Bradley Fleet and a Norwegian Freighter collided in the Straits of Mackinac. The Great Lakes ore freighter began to take on water at a rapid rate. But inexplicably, the ship turned in the wrong direction and sank 3 miles to shore, after being hit just 1 mile from shore. Here is the strange story.
Thanks to Mark Sprang at the Great Lakes Historical Archives at Bowling Green State University.
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Cited Sources:
The Cedarville Conspiracy: Indicting U.S. Steel by L. Stephen Cox
Mayday! Tragedy at Sea by James L. Hopp
The Wheelsmen by Ric Mixter
Shipwrecks of the Straits of Mackinac by Dr. Charles E. Feltner & Jeri Baron Feltner
Marine Board of Investigation Report on the Collsion between the SS Cedarville, ON 226492 and the Norwegian MV Topdalsfjord, ON 36485, in the Straits of Mackinac, Michigan 7 May 1965 with the resultant ssinking of the SS Cedarville and loss of life
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Captain May was like “this guy is too arrogant to let me save his and the crew’s life.”
He literally was. He would have rather had his entire crew die then being saved by a German Freighter, of which the Captain TOLD him what was going to happen.
Maritime Horrors AND Part Time Explorer upload today? What a gift.
Brick Immortar also uploaded yesterday
@@icarus_kl of course! I already watched it!
@@icarus_kl good heavens this is is a good week
@@icarus_klwas literally about to comment this. It's the holy trinity of shipping disasters
@@icarus_klyou beat me too it
As a native Michigander who grew up through the MI school system, it shocks me sometimes how there is almost no lessons on the shipping history of Michigan. ONE OF THEM HAD A SONG ABOUT IT FOR GOODNESS SAKE.
For real, it's like they assume since we heard the song that was enough. Definitely remember them spending a whole year on the fur trapping and indian relationship though... dId YoU kNoW tHaT mIcHiGaN hAz 2pEnInSuLaZ 😮😮😮😮😮
Seriously, I barely knew anything about it until I was already graduated and started going on rides around the state and stuff
I'm 46 years old. Upstate NY'er all my life. I only JUST started learning about the Great Lakes and everything going on with them in the past 5 years due to my own intellectual pursuits. Certainly no holdover from public school. We we taught the lakes names, that the were big, and not much more.
There's songs for almost all the ships covered on this channel
Search artist Dan Hall
Why learn about your local area and history when you can just 'learn' about the nazis again.
For the umpteenth time.
I hate public schools.
" ...and icebreaker prow" - this is what we in the business call foreshadowing
Fantastic rendition as usual sir, thank ye!
On this channel and Mentour Pilot, you get a lot of these lines. I find myself saying, "Oh, shit. That's gonna end badly," often.
@@bobbyfeet2240Also WTYP, anytime someone says a date, you know the disaster is about to happen.
I am literally sitting in the parking lot at Rogers City Calcite right now. Judging by the state of the rest of the place, it's not surprising that the boat loader breaks all the time.
That's what happens when the country has a political party that's corrupt as hell's 9th layer and beholden to foreign interests that are 100% antithetic towards the future of the US. Instead of the two party system functioning to put forth functional reforms and programs... one's busy smashing the glass and the other picking up the pieces, while the country is in total and uncontrolled descent. Puta del Mierda won't live to see US collapse, but he sure dealt a big blow. For shame that the citizens of US aren't savvy enough to see the T-bone that's happening in real time.
Brick immortar, part time Explorer, and maritime horrors, in just a few days? Must be Christmas.
What really cool is task and purpose also mentions the munroe today
It's Christmas, new years and the 4th of July all in one
Love when my favorites are all so close
And dont forget our friend Mike Brady from Oceanliner Designs.
The names all rhyme
That Benson Ford section "house" is one of the coolest ideas ever - history is preserved where it would have not been otherwise and just image what could be done with that space. Definitely would have an ultimate ham station in the radio shack!
I was wondering why I knew that name and what happened to her. Turns out I've just actually seen (part of) that ship.
You can visit it!!!
All of the surrounding captains and crews had a better grasp of the situation. Surreal.
Man, this is the type of stuff and quality I expected the history channel to have in the future when I was a kid.
Ikr. Im old enough to remember, when the history channel was about actual history. But instead of getting better.... well, I gave up on them at least 25 years ago. UA-cam is a gift with such talented content creator as this!
To be on the History Channel, the crew would have to be running around naked while being afraid.
@@TrevorNetnow they catch gators
Needs more alien speculation.
Yeah, History, Discovery, TLC - they’ve all sold out to the lowest common denominator. They used to have such cool stuff back in the 90s. I miss that.
I use to go fishing with the son of one survivor, lived next door to another survivor, went to RCHS with the relatives of many of the crew in the late 70's. Other than some misspronounced names, this was an informative video. I have no words to describe the impact this tragedy, along with the loss of the Carl D Bradley some years earlier had on this small town.
At least he can pronounce "Mackinac" .... if they can't - I stop it and leave a dislike and move on.
Cedarville, a wreck that is not talked as much in the Great Lakes community so it's great that you released this video!
there's been so many over the years. such a high shipping volume means many many wrecks and such like things.
There are hundreds of wrecks on the bottom of the Great Lakes, many of which are also probably not talked about much
I find it pretty cool that you yourself are experienced on the Great Lakes, seeing how many of your videos are of Great Lakes ships. Also a gun enthusiast based on twitter, from one antique gun enthusiast to another, fucking based acquisition on that Lee Enfield, that's probably the best couple hundred bucks you've ever spent!
Wait he has other accounts? Gun stuff too? Can you send me link please?
Got home. Have sausages. Video goes up.
Perfect timing.
What kind of sausages? I didn’t have breakfast.
...you just...have a handful of loose sausages? 🤔⁉️🌭🌭🌭👌🏻
Weird. Eating sausage for dinner right now, while watching this.
Mmm.. English Eggs and Sausages. My favorite. 😁
ok...what is sausages ! wierd food or herbs
Jeezus these Norwegian freighters are a menace! First the Empress of Irelandand now the Cedarville
Just like the Vikings all over again...
Don't forget the Halifax explosion!
Average sailor: "Oh no a ship has collided with us"
Norwegian freighter: "I'll fucking do it again"
Maritime Horrors, Brick Immortar, Wartime Stories and Bedtime Stories all posting new videos in the space of a few days, excellent
EDIT: And Part Time Explorer too, oof
Ah, a fellow man of culture I see.
Gangs all here!
Suffice to say I was a giddy man when I laid down tonight and booted up the ole UA-cam!
I'm going to check out wartime, bedtime, and explorer, they look excellent so far thanks for listing these out!!
@@jakekallenborn6732 You're welcome.
40:10 death penalty.
This was murder on his behalf.. awful person...
The fact that he made it out disgusts me.
Murder would be a bit much (murder requires intent). Manslaughter and criminal negligence would be much more likely to stick and would still carry a lengthy prison sentence in all probability. Still, it baffles me how in the one case where a scapegoat is genuinely the one to blame, they get off almost scot-free.
And people wonder why faith in the justice system is at an all-time low.
@@z3r0_35 ah yes but being labled a scapegoat carrys a damming name that's maybe a little lighter than being labeled an incompetent fuck up.
I love how you're able to both present an objective narrative and hard facts, and be able to show your genuine enthusiasm for ships and sailing. It makes your channel one of my favorites, to hear both the facts and you saying hell yes to having a part of a ship as a house. It makes my day. Thank you.
I finished a co-op late last year onboard one of the Lakers, we went to calcite a few times for sand but every time we went there was always something funny (at least to me) going on. Last time we where there I finished my shift and went to bed that night. Come the next day I come down to the engine room for my shift only to see one of the gangway does smashed in a good bit. Apparently the mate on watch was in such a rush to get out they forgot to account for the ship next to us (which hadn't finished tying up). So we pulled them into us in a manner similar to the RMS Olympic and HMS Hawk but slower and last destructive. I had a great laugh to it in the morning since nobody was hurt and the other ship wasn't damaged. The thing I still can't figure out is how I slept threw the whole thing.
The Benson Ford home’s owner is a legend. I love the Hewlett unloaded. They’re so crazy. A man driving a giant shovel nearly right from the bucket.
I think it's spelled "Hulett" 😊.
We were just at a Great Lakes maritime museum a few months ago learning about lakes shipping. When we ran into the old diving suit with the huge metal helmet, we referred to it as "The Creepster"
DeepStar Six.
This guy is like Montemayor. Goes silent for months, comes out of the blue (fog, in this case), drops an absolute banger of a long format video, refuses to elaborate, then leaves again.
The amount of chucklefekkery the SS Cedarville captain pulled out off of his sleeve was outstanding. As was the SAR move by the German captain.
Loved the "then & now" commentary on pier-side operations, btw.
Looking forward to the next video, mate. Well done.
I don't quite understand why the lifesaving equipment on these lake freighters is so much worse than what was available on oceangoing freighters of the era -- or even oceangoing vessels from 50 years earlier.
corporate greed is not a new thing
The captain being one of the only survivors is either lucky or shameful, usually the latter.
In this case, 100% the latter
I’m sitting in class listening to the Edmund Fitzgerald video when Siri comes on and says this was just uploaded. My mood immediately improved
I’ve been there before lmao, graduated last year fortunately
Make sure you focus on those grades feller 👀
There is a folk-type song called The Edmund Fitzgerald.😊
@@PeterEdinI love Edmund Fitzgeralds voice
Glad to see you paying attention in class
The brief discussion of shallow water effects 20 minutes in just made my day. I wrote my thesis on squat and it always cool to see someone talk about it.
The new Key way bridge episode gonna be crazy.
From a scuba divers perspective, the Cedarville is a real treasure of a dive site. The ship is HUGE and a swim of its length is a real chore. Lying on her side with much of her load spilled out, about 110 ft of depth as I recall, is an interesting site. The entire Mackinac area is a great divers destination.
Tragic tale, well
narrated. Very humbling,
thanks for keeping their
memory alive.
Calm seas and good winds to all the sailors of the world. Have a safe season.
My dad owns a porthole from the cedarville wreck, the inches thick glass having a hole straight through from the sea floor collision. He bought it at auction and it has all the official paperwork and certifications.
I also looooooooove the inclusion of the ship traveling on the chart, gives a much much nicer visual than trying to figure it out in my head ❤️ keep up the amazing work
I was confused for a couple seconds...heard "self-unloader" as "cell phone loader."
Me too. Was really confused for a moment, there!
Did a quick search of the MS Topdalsfjord and found that she was deleted from ship registers in 2005.
Great video by the way^_^
I can't wait for his new april fools video if he is even making one
Hey there! Great Lakes Mariner here! On your comment of MPH vs. KTS used on the Great Lakes, at least with my company (Interlake Steamship), we use Knots most of the time. Sometimes we use MPH. Great video!
Hi, might i ask why is it so dangerous on these lakes, one would think open sea is way worse
I grew up in Northern Indiana about 50 mi from the lake. Its a tragedy that no one I ever talked to my whole time in school ever knew about lakes freighters and the thousands of shipwrecks or the steel industry and were startled to hear that Indiana has an international port! Also not discussed is that the iron boom towns in the 1800s made the west look tame! Hollywood actually took many of their stories and adapted them as "westerns" because it's eaiser to film out in western terrain. Hardly anyone knew of the soo locks or their strategic importance. I do not remember the maritime battles of the war of 1812 being discussed either.
Always a great day to see you back at the helm, captain!
I’ve dived the cedarville and the Bradley with the son of a sailor on the cedarville. The amount of knowledge was phenomenal. That being said you’ve done really well with the telling of this story. Well done ❤
Lake freighters trying not to end their careers with complete loss of life:
As a sailor, I must say, I appreciate the nods to royalty in this one. BTW I'm a total of a minute thirty into this video, and the slobbering has not stopped.
Wow! I didn't think I'd watch the full 45 mins...but you held my attention! Interesting content! I've Subscribed. Greetings from the French Alps.
This happened near where I live, and my stepdad has dived on the wreck of the Cedarville.
I sure love it when maritime horrors introduces ships other than the main ship, certainly never means anything bad happens!
So excited for this! Maritime Horrors is a top tier channel!!!
Captain May was probably thinking before the collision and immediately afterwards “what is wrong with that captain?!”
fair winds and following seas while you're out there, my dude
It’s a good day when Maritime Horrors makes a new video
I love how you were able to use so many pictures this time! It always adds so much for me to see it in real life!
Hey Maritime horrors, your videos always excite me when i see their release, i love learning of the history of the Greatlakes as was born and am being raised in sault Ste Marie Ontario, i often see ships from my street as they transit the river, although i very much understand you naming your ship, i would love to know if it will be transiting the canals, As well as your personal experiences on the lakes, of course, they may not be as harrowing as the early 1900s, it still would be nice due to the real life connection's i can make, they always are the best part of these videos, they Truly allow me to understand these events and remember the lives lost.
Love from the Sault - Otter
Seeing an update from this channel always makes my day. Thanks to you and your crew, MH.
As a person that gets nervous on a row boat in a pond these stories really freak me out!
Finally a story where the Germans are the good guys. But I wish that more sailors could have been saved. Thanks for sharing that story.
Wake up babe, maritime horrors just released a new video
Wake up babe. These comments suck haha
Damn it I was gonna make that joke 😂
babe dont wake me uppp
Yeah that wake up babe is worse than the people who put first. Losers
Too many barnacles waiting!
Hearing your own quips about calcite was an absolutely wonderful addition, please continue to mention stuff like this in your future videos ❤
I used to ride the Kristen D Ferry with my family to Bois Blanc every spring to go visit my grandad who lived on the island. It was always such a fun time to ride the ferry, but it used to scare me a lot as well, the water was very dark and moved more like the ocean than any lake I ever went to outside of the Great Lakes. When the lakes would freeze the residents would ride snowmobiles across the Ice to get to the mainland, and at times it and the Mail plane where the only options if they hadn’t run the ice breakers yet. i went one time with my grandad and the compressing of the ice scared the shit out of me. What a wild place there Great Lakes are
There's an awesome series of Great Lakes shipwrecks maps by the American Geographical Society, that I'm sure you're aware of and have been posted here before. Your channel inspired me to look around, and that is how I found them.
I hope you are able to do all the big wrecks in due course and to tell their story. As a wayward Michigander whose family spent summers in Menominee, I really am appreciative of your efforts.
Also, if you ever go to Menominee, there's a fun little museum in a converted Catholic church there as well as a bunch of great archives with the Menominee Historical Society.
I live in the lake erie area and have seen the Benson Ford at putin bay multiple times, just as cool in person! I’d kill to see the view from inside that old forward section.
It's great that she and the John W. Boardman are cottages! They should definitely do that in the future if one of the older lakers ends up at the breakers yard.
I have been DYING for a video on the Cedarville!!!! Thank you!!!
Bro ive been fiending for another video forever! Thank you so much!
These are such a gem - I always get excited when I see this on my notifications. Thank you for keeping this channel active!
The seas and larger lakes are full of stories about sailors making the most confusing and bewildering decisions at the worst possible moment. I have on myself that happened some 8 or 9 years ago.
We were approaching port with our patrol ship because we knew that a heavy storm was looming. As we entered the port, a line of German pleasure boats were going out to proceed south, directly into the approaching storm. At this point, the sun was still shining brightly with some clouds forming and growing in the southern horizon and the swells just barely starting to rise, but the barometer was falling eerily fast, so we warned them over the loudspeaker to stay in port and secure their boats firmly and why, but they were on a schedule and didn't think it would cause any trouble as Germany was only a few hours away. Nothing we said could change their minds, though we did see some of the boats in the line having some worried faces looking south.
Important to know. This was a party of German boats hired by people with little to no maritime experience of any kind, and being led by a lead boat with a crew of trained and experienced sailors to keep the entire boat party safe and take care of navigation. So their decision to move on was virtually unfathomable to us on the patrol ship.
And sure enough. About 2 hours later, we had to rush out of the port and steam south at full speed along other patrol ships from other ports to save the lot of them as only the lead boat was managing, but not able to help any of the other boats. By some miracle, they all hung on long enough for the patrol ships to arrive on scene and evacuate the scared inexperienced families and we even managed to haul the boats into the nearest port, but most of them needed a thorough trip to a yard after the storm. And if the storm had had time to reach them full force before we arrived, it seems pretty certain that we would only have been picking up bodies and debries. Needless to say that we were both exhausted and furious at having to risk the ships and ourselves because of the stupidity of the lead crew who should have known better than venturing into such weather in such small boats, let alone making inexperienced people do the same.
I love the added comments about your modern experiences on the Great Lakes. Great video!
Thanks for the episode. Thanks more for all the hard work. Fair winds
Thank you for gracing us with another video❤
My Grandma lives in Cedarville, MI. Interesting story to be attached to that town.
Always love when a new MH drops. Thanks dude!
Great video. We appreciate the time and work you spend on showing us these wonderful ships.
Awesome video as always. Loved hearing your personal experiences in this video as well!
Apropos of nothing, I’m watching this on the evening of March 26 after the freighter hit the Key Bridge in Baltimore. You are an amazing storyteller.
As someone who grew up near lake ontario and lake huron i really appreciate this channel. Keep up the good work
This was an absolutely fantastic video! Thank you so much!
Having sailed on her sister ships Maumee and calumet 1, these pictures brought back some memories
Thank you for bringing this topic to light. The video was very well presented. Keep it up.
These videos are great, the detail you go into really helps us engage with the event. You depict the events with a lot of dignity and show respect to the lives lost. You are a great storyteller and that makes them quite humbling to experience. I actually found your channel with your Nostromo video but I stayed for all your other work.
Always amazed by your level of detail! Awesome video!
Been waiting on this one. Well done as always 👌🏼👍🏼
This is my new favourite channel. Thanks a lot for the great content. Keep it up
I love these maritime stories of the Great Lakes, and your personal reflections of your time sailing these waters just added to the video's excellence. 👍
I always love all the detail you put into your videos, been a while since your last video and i cant wait till the next one... 💚💙👍👍👏👏👏👏
Thank God there were some competent ships Master's on the lake that day, or the death toll would've been significantly higher. RIP to those men that needlessly perished.
Great video, superb detail and outstanding imagery. Very evocative. Thanks for sharing your endeavours.
Awesome! Been waiting for the choice uploads.
Love your vids man, keep up the amazing work!
love your videos man, watching your videos on a stormy night with a cold beer, that's therapy
Great content and video! Thank you for the work you put into this!
I always forward to each and every one of your videos. Keep on keeping on! Fair winds and following seas!
YES! YES! YES!
Always love getting notified for these sick videos.
Absolute top production. Great video
Love this. Voice is wonderful and stories are fantastic. Thank you for sharing them
Always good to see you back. That said, jesus what an avoidable accident.
You probably don’t hear this often but keep adding your own personal anecdotes of your own experience sailing. I don’t think a ton of ppl actually know you are often on the water in these very lakes. So long as you use your judgement which of course you will, there’s a lot of authority to tap into that’s quite rare with lake incidents in particular.
your videos are always so fascinating
Gonna get met through the last hour of work
Always enjoy the videos!
always love seeing your videos in my subscription box
So.. no April fools this year?
Tragic loss of the SS MINNOW
This upload notification just made my day!!
Thanks for another great video dude
Excellent video. Thanks for going in - depth with the courses and plot information. I sailed on the lakes as a mate several years ago and have been through the straits several times. I hated transiting through fog in that area.
Once again, another masterclass video!!
Man I know they take a while to make, but I love these videos. They are seriously quality.