Hope not, i get that it's fast and it will get even faster in the future. But i think that electric dirt bike's take away half of the fun, there is no shifting and no sound. And once you get used to the torque and the power it becomes quite easy to ride, so motocross will require less skill to be fast and it already happend when MX moved from 2 stroke to 4 stroke. Mby i am wrong about this, but i just don't find the same enjoyment from riding electric dirt bikes.
You are actually a very good rider. And you are humble. You are the perfect guy to do these videos and introduce people into the new Era of motocross. Just good old authentic fun. Very refreshing, thank you, keep up the good work.
what i like about e-bikes, Is that once you rid your head from the clutch and gears thoughts, there is room for a smoother and funner riding experience. As an ex desert racer my favorite feature is variable regen (stark doesnt have) I dont even have a rear brake and regen 10hp before the wheel locks.
If you had an electric F-150 for example, you could charge the Stark from the truck battery and keep having fun all day long. Grate video, I Love the way you ride.
I just saw 3 of these racing at UK arena cross and 1 won the championship despite being tuned down. Amazing bikes . I’m not sure mixing classes works though as electric is clearly superior in many races and limiting them is only an approximation. Think they should run their own classes at events and run higher power for shorter races .
What's cool about e-bikes is if you live on a few acres and have neighbors you could still have a track in your backyard without annoying them with noise.
I was suprised to find that a semi-local track only allowed two strokes as their noise does not carry as far, and kept the neighbours away. I never even thought about the fact that, while a two stroke sound would not travel as far. For most a bike like the Stark would have enough juice for a day at the track, and then home to charge.
I live on 1.5 acres and my neighbor has one and it’s still a little noisy when it goes for hours but way better than gas. Not sure I would be thrilled with him having a track though
Having the POV helps put into perspective how fast it is, absolutely ripping. Are you glad you went with the rear brake at your foot? The one I rode it had it at my left hand and I liked it a lot more than I thought I would
Yeah, I am. They gave me the option to have the hand brake if I wanted it as well, but when I tested it in Cali it felt too unnatural. Since I posted this video I’ve also mounted a “fake” clutch lever so I have something to rest my finger on, as the death grip will result in bad habits when I ride my 450.
@@NickTomasunas ur 450 will b collecting dust sooner than u even know. That’s when u might as well do the right thing & donate it to my charity “DOWN-4-LIFE!” so inner city kids ride dirt!
Wow. You were flying!!!! Insane speed, what lap times do you get compared to your gas bike? I guess you need to revalve the suspension? Keep those Stark videos coming pls!
Jag undrar hur mycket Vargen bromsar eller retarderar när man släpper gasen? Vet bara hur en elbil upplevs få mycket motstånd när man släpper av. Det här är framtiden, mycket vrid och ingen växellåda. Tyst och stör inte. Kan bara se fördelar. Hade gärna haft en!
Very kewl 👍 I got my first dirt bike of many in the 1970s (read: old guy). I was wondering at 80 hp how does the center of gravity feel since the electrical engine doesn’t have the forward mechanical parts moving you have on a big dirt bike. Looks amazing! Congratulations !
I want one! I recently bought an electric dirtbike with a 4 speed transmission and a clutch. Tons of torque I dont really need the clutch because I mostly just ride it in second gear.
this really puts into perspective how awesome these things are, normally im not the biggest electric bike fan, but this video shows the true potential of the bike and what is possible with it currently. I have one question about it, what is the difference between the Varg and a 450, with the Varg being on the setting you rode the track on in the video.
Nice vid! I love the stark! it builds your confidence fast, great in the air, is mental fast and grips the ground like you are riding on sealed road. Would love one to add to my collection
How does it feel in terms of stability? I'm curious if removing the gyroscopic effect of the petrol engines rotating mass is noticeable? It seems just a bit less composed in the air, though that could be down to the rides themselves
U dont care what others think cause u know its superior. Look, it either needs gas or a charge. For those that flat out hate on it just do because they will likely never have an extra 12 Gs is it? Maybe even more. But don’t hate cause u don’t have - cause u can’t hate something u never tried
I own an electric KTM and very happy with it (despite of the fact I Own some crazy 2T bikes). Waiting for Stark or another brand to sell a legal high power enduro bike (lghts, etc) as the KTM.
Is there an acutual break in period for the bike, or are you meaning that you are getting used to it, and will adjust it? While I've not bought a new MX bike in a LONG time, I recall the break in period was so painful to be riding the latest bike and having to all but roll around for a few rides.
A hybrid 2T would be badass. EV bottom end then let the engine take over when the pipe is happy. It would bring the two worlds together....Or just piss everyone off. But seriously I don't think it would be any heavier than a four stroke.
Nice bike bro!! What suspension weight setting you end up buying from Stark?? I know you go big! My guess stiffer than average Joes. Like Supercross stiff.
Yea a ton of e bikers think its going to replace it but I just think its going to be an option, gas or electric. gas engines will catch up eventually in horsepower.
It’s funny every one seems to say it’s got way more than a 450 and there’s only a hand full that can ride one of those I think for the average punter probably not the go
I could care less if this is the future of motocross or not. It has a place in the market simply because of the torque. Different animal,not better just different.
Well if i want to pay more for an electric bike that i cant play ride on for about 2 maybe 3 hours, which means all day rides are out or even back country riding an worry about it possibly catching fire while charging or even massive overheating while riding.. I know stark an a lot of people are pushing an paying a lot of people big money to say what they want about these things.. but ive seen plenty of reviews by enough people already that show 1. They're not real dependable 2. They dont last long charging wise 3. An aren't cost efficient 4. Can be dangerous because of the battery that if exploded will cause more damage to the environment than gas ever could, cause the fumes are deadly an will kill you! I think ill stick with my 2 or 4 stroke❤❤❤ but great riding man! Dont let money change your opinion from your 1st videos ive seen with you riding these..
The industry will have to do something regarding the sound as that is part of the experience. It needs to emulate the sound of a gas powered motorcycle. Could you imagine going to watch a Supercross without the sound of the bikes?
Great video, great riding, great bike performance..... But...... I can't, I just can't with the electric. I choose to remain an old 2-stroke soul for life!
I get its fast and the battery tech is getting good... dirtbiking just wouldnt be it without the engine. The smell, the vibration, the powerband, irreplacable and i do hate the sound of electric motors. Fun but a way differsnt kind id think.
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Is electric the future of the motocross?
I hope so!
Nope ….. junk
@@thewillofus.defend1351 how is it junk?
Hope not, i get that it's fast and it will get even faster in the future. But i think that electric dirt bike's take away half of the fun, there is no shifting and no sound. And once you get used to the torque and the power it becomes quite easy to ride, so motocross will require less skill to be fast and it already happend when MX moved from 2 stroke to 4 stroke. Mby i am wrong about this, but i just don't find the same enjoyment from riding electric dirt bikes.
bro no way you just said that shit. Weirdo
You are actually a very good rider. And you are humble. You are the perfect guy to do these videos and introduce people into the new Era of motocross. Just good old authentic fun. Very refreshing, thank you, keep up the good work.
That thing is absolutely insane. And That camera angle allows us to see how fast your rippin.
ur gay 4 bike HA
JK all love
Thats the best best footage and most accurate depiction of the speed of these things in track . Thst looked insanely fast e crosser 💪
what i like about e-bikes, Is that once you rid your head from the clutch and gears thoughts, there is room for a smoother and funner riding experience. As an ex desert racer my favorite feature is variable regen (stark doesnt have) I dont even have a rear brake and regen 10hp before the wheel locks.
It does have variable regen. I dont know if it did back then but it does now
If you had an electric F-150 for example, you could charge the Stark from the truck battery and keep having fun all day long. Grate video, I Love the way you ride.
Or a Tesla Cybertruck. They both have bi-directional charging.
Until you need to go home and the truck needs a charge.😅
@@rossmackenzie7993 both are dead bike and truck
the power is insane but the sound in boring i gotta have my 2 stroke ICE
It would take 20 hours for a full charge with a 400w 110v outlet lol
I just saw 3 of these racing at UK arena cross and 1 won the championship despite being tuned down. Amazing bikes . I’m not sure mixing classes works though as electric is clearly superior in many races and limiting them is only an approximation. Think they should run their own classes at events and run higher power for shorter races .
But theyve had no problem mixxing clearly overpowered 4 strokes into the 2 strokes all these years....
What's cool about e-bikes is if you live on a few acres and have neighbors you could still have a track in your backyard without annoying them with noise.
I was suprised to find that a semi-local track only allowed two strokes as their noise does not carry as far, and kept the neighbours away. I never even thought about the fact that, while a two stroke sound would not travel as far. For most a bike like the Stark would have enough juice for a day at the track, and then home to charge.
I live on 1.5 acres and my neighbor has one and it’s still a little noisy when it goes for hours but way better than gas. Not sure I would be thrilled with him having a track though
you can literally feel the torque
bro that thing is sick
Agreed! ⚡️
I love the ad you made with Oakley
Thank you! 🙌
@@NickTomasunas your welcome!!
Man this thing is quick, sick riding dude
Having the POV helps put into perspective how fast it is, absolutely ripping. Are you glad you went with the rear brake at your foot? The one I rode it had it at my left hand and I liked it a lot more than I thought I would
Yeah, I am. They gave me the option to have the hand brake if I wanted it as well, but when I tested it in Cali it felt too unnatural. Since I posted this video I’ve also mounted a “fake” clutch lever so I have something to rest my finger on, as the death grip will result in bad habits when I ride my 450.
@@NickTomasunas ah I gotcha that’s pretty clever
@@NickTomasunassmart man!
@@NickTomasunas ur 450 will b collecting dust sooner than u even know.
That’s when u might as well do the right thing & donate it to my charity “DOWN-4-LIFE!” so inner city kids ride dirt!
Still have a love for the sound of a two stroke !
Same here! 🙌
You can just play that in your helmet while going faster on this bike.
@@MarcSherwood so when yall e bike riders ride a gas bike do you play electric sounds? Like bro its a feeling and a sound. Can't just immitate.
Well handled...it must be hard hit,n table tops,doubles,triples..RESPECT
It will definitely take over, I think the noise means you can race anywhere, and the fact that it out performs all petrol bikes ❤
Wow. You were flying!!!!
Insane speed, what lap times do you get compared to your gas bike?
I guess you need to revalve the suspension?
Keep those Stark videos coming pls!
Nick, since it doesn’t need a spark arrestor…. How long until we see you doing some MI trail riding!?!?! 🤣👍
Such a Beast!!! I am all about new Technology 🙂 Thanks for the vid
Man that bike is quick!!! I really want one and can't wait to see it run w the 450' s. Oh and you seem pretty quick as well.
Love the Oakley ad!!!! Congrats.. 🥳
I've had my stark varg for a month now. These bikes are mental! They're brutal in Enduro too. Hoping the snow goes away around here fast.
Jag undrar hur mycket Vargen bromsar eller retarderar när man släpper gasen? Vet bara hur en elbil upplevs få mycket motstånd när man släpper av. Det här är framtiden, mycket vrid och ingen växellåda. Tyst och stör inte. Kan bara se fördelar. Hade gärna haft en!
Isn’t it hard to ride at Enduro? I mean you have no clutch?
@DonGH97 I mean, it's electric, so it's instant and smooth torque. It also can't stall.
@@Fizzglg yeah but still a clutch is very important, especially for enduro. I’ve heard that many pro riders don’t like it
How much range you can get on it? 1 hour of riding?
its so nice to see an electric dirtbike that looks so good tbh!
I love your channel is the best work keep it up bro you got this🎉
Very kewl 👍 I got my first dirt bike of many in the 1970s (read: old guy). I was wondering at 80 hp how does the center of gravity feel since the electrical engine doesn’t have the forward mechanical parts moving you have on a big dirt bike. Looks amazing! Congratulations !
this is 1 of my favorite yt vids ever seriously i love the bike and seeing you ride it is so satisfying
I want one! I recently bought an electric dirtbike with a 4 speed transmission and a clutch. Tons of torque I dont really need the clutch because I mostly just ride it in second gear.
this really puts into perspective how awesome these things are, normally im not the biggest electric bike fan, but this video shows the true potential of the bike and what is possible with it currently. I have one question about it, what is the difference between the Varg and a 450, with the Varg being on the setting you rode the track on in the video.
I would say the Varg doesn’t carry power through deeper sand like a 450, but it would track a lot better than a 450 on hard pack.
@@NickTomasunas that makes sense, thank you for taking the time to respond to my comment
Nice vid! I love the stark! it builds your confidence fast, great in the air, is mental fast and grips the ground like you are riding on sealed road. Would love one to add to my collection
I want one! They look sick seems like a lot of fun
Bro you were HAULING on that thing, you are an amazing rider!
Best ride for…, 18 minutes… then limp mode… then 3-4 hour charge time…great investment….
1 hour charge, and 2 hours from full charge. fify
Straight shreddin brother. Wish I had knees still😢
Stop hating on the STARK VARG she is a beast an yes i will take that over a 450 😮
Only thing I’m slightly disappointed with is the battery life but other than that the bike is incredible. Sick riding man🤙
2.20.24 Nick, are you going to do some MX and SX racing up against the 450 when the weather changes? What class would you be riding?
bike is so damn sick. sold on it
That was epic 🔥
How do you keep your bikes so clean? White plastic are very hard to keep clean.
what camera do u use?
Awesome video you were rippin on that bike
didn't know I was sitting across from bro in Detroit wild never thought bro was a Michigander
How does it feel in terms of stability?
I'm curious if removing the gyroscopic effect of the petrol engines rotating mass is noticeable?
It seems just a bit less composed in the air, though that could be down to the rides themselves
You should come out to hardy dam Mx it is really close to there and it isn’t really a sand track and kind of in the woods
How long does it last
How often do you need to do a piston on thoes things 🤔
😂
I would pay to see you ride a public track on this bike 😂😂😂
Do they allow electric bikes to race with the gassers in ama yet?
Its like dancing to your favorite song without hearing the music
would love to see the outside view more when you do cool things
This video just makes me want one even more.
What about the hand rear break? Tried it? Sick vid
I did, didn’t really like it though.
Fast as hell!!!!
U dont care what others think cause u know its superior.
Look, it either needs gas or a charge. For those that flat out hate on it just do because they will likely never have an extra 12 Gs is it?
Maybe even more. But don’t hate cause u don’t have - cause u can’t hate something u never tried
I definitely want one to trail with, perfect platform
NO. TWO SMOKE FOREVER!!!!!
How long does the battery last at full power? Then how long to fully charge?
Hot swap modular batteries would be the way to go with this bike. 1 battery in the bike, 1 on charge. It would be unstoppable.
Awesome video! Which sunglasses are those?
I own an electric KTM and very happy with it (despite of the fact I Own some crazy 2T bikes). Waiting for Stark or another brand to sell a legal high power enduro bike (lghts, etc) as the KTM.
thats hardcore fast
great video, make me wanna try one
🙌🙌
Is there an acutual break in period for the bike, or are you meaning that you are getting used to it, and will adjust it? While I've not bought a new MX bike in a LONG time, I recall the break in period was so painful to be riding the latest bike and having to all but roll around for a few rides.
A hybrid 2T would be badass. EV bottom end then let the engine take over when the pipe is happy. It would bring the two worlds together....Or just piss everyone off. But seriously I don't think it would be any heavier than a four stroke.
That’s awesome but sometimes you’re just gonna wanna ride some more. How much is the second battery?
They really are amazing but it’s so hard to substitute that amazing gas engine sound with a turbo charged vacuum.
Nice bike bro!! What suspension weight setting you end up buying from Stark?? I know you go big! My guess stiffer than average Joes. Like Supercross stiff.
I told them to give me the stiffest setting they had. It’s good enough for outdoors, but I’ll have to have it revalved for when I start jumping it!
Bro is literally the Stig 😂😂😂
Would it last a race ,a moto,multiole motos ?
I am in the mitten too where is this track at!
With interchangeable battery packs, absolutely the future
I don’t think that it will replace motocross but I think it will have its own electric division ❤❤😊
Yea a ton of e bikers think its going to replace it but I just think its going to be an option, gas or electric. gas engines will catch up eventually in horsepower.
@@Railkers101 ICE has been around for a century, gas is reaching it's limit
I got to figure out how to get over the fear of doing wheelies.
Gotta say you rode the hell outta that thing
It’s funny every one seems to say it’s got way more than a 450 and there’s only a hand full that can ride one of those
I think for the average punter probably not the go
I could care less if this is the future of motocross or not. It has a place in the market simply because of the torque. Different animal,not better just different.
i seen one of your jump to wheelie clips on daily dose of internet
🙌
What’s it like popping a wheelie on that thing??
Well if i want to pay more for an electric bike that i cant play ride on for about 2 maybe 3 hours, which means all day rides are out or even back country riding an worry about it possibly catching fire while charging or even massive overheating while riding.. I know stark an a lot of people are pushing an paying a lot of people big money to say what they want about these things.. but ive seen plenty of reviews by enough people already that show 1. They're not real dependable 2. They dont last long charging wise 3. An aren't cost efficient 4. Can be dangerous because of the battery that if exploded will cause more damage to the environment than gas ever could, cause the fumes are deadly an will kill you! I think ill stick with my 2 or 4 stroke❤❤❤ but great riding man! Dont let money change your opinion from your 1st videos ive seen with you riding these..
So what’s that like…going freeway speeds on a sand track with 80hp??? 🤘
Where you at in northern mi? I’m in Petoskey
Does the motor slow you down when you let go of the throttle?
You can tune the engine break to your preferences.
Seems ot me this thing has alot of traction even when u put the hp maxed? :O
Good video 🙂🇸🇪👋👍
how long did the battery last the way you were riding?
Clifden gang!!
Would you consider getting a 2 stroke to add to the channel?
try a few laps with engine brake turned off - think U will like it
That's fast
The industry will have to do something regarding the sound as that is part of the experience. It needs to emulate the sound of a gas powered motorcycle. Could you imagine going to watch a Supercross without the sound of the bikes?
Just think,with e bikes,you can run races in cities at nite,no sound issues
EV seems fast but the sound of gas and shifting is more fun.
That thing seems stupid fast. Where can I get one
How long would you say the battery lasted
i think it lasts 2-5 hours depending on what hp youre running and if youre full throttle, it only charges for 45minutes tho
If I was to actually do a hard moto at full pace, probably 20-25 minutes depending on track conditions. Possibly 30
💥💥💥 good video
Thank you! 🙏🏼
Great video, great riding, great bike performance..... But...... I can't, I just can't with the electric. I choose to remain an old 2-stroke soul for life!
Full battery 🔋 on 80hp. Nuts
Hey, how long does the battery last for each ride?
I could probably get a hard 20-30 minute moto out of a full charge.
How about trail riding, how long will the battery last then?@@NickTomasunas
Still love me a good ol 2 stroke screaming.
I get its fast and the battery tech is getting good... dirtbiking just wouldnt be it without the engine. The smell, the vibration, the powerband, irreplacable and i do hate the sound of electric motors. Fun but a way differsnt kind id think.