James Crumbley Trial: Oxford High School shooter's father guilty | LiveNOW from FOX
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- Опубліковано 13 бер 2024
- James Crumbley, father of the Oxford High School shooter, has been found guilty on all counts of involuntary manslaughter.
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Well this just shows that if your gonna be stupid you pay the consequences. You dont buy a handgun for a damn kid. PERIOD You teach your kids responsible gun usage and ownership
So based on your comment. Parents who buy their kid a car and teach the kid to drive, should the kid drink and drive or texting while driving and killed a person. The parents should be charged with vehicular manslaughter?
The reporter is wrong when he reports that Crumbley had no reaction to the verdict. He was not paying attention , or he would have seen how Crumbley shook his head from side to side. Good verdict.
Well.. The First set of Parents have now been Found Guilty for there their child's murders. This would not have happened if James did not buy Ethan that gun IMO AND FOUR beautiful lives would still be here today.
MAY THIS BE A WARNING TO YOU WORTHLESS PARENTS OUT THERE!!!
IF YOU DECIDE TO BE A PARENT YOU BETTER MAKE SURE YOUR MORALS ARE CORRECT!!! BEING A PARENT BECOMES YOUR #1 DUTY & RESPONSIBILITY IN LIFE!!
Your caps lock is on
@@CoryD918 yup
@@CoryD918 Ooh, u a detective, bro? LMAO.
I can't believe he had the cheek to shake his head. Did he think that they would find him innocent after all he bought the gun didn't follow the safety guide. An ignored his child crying out for help they should of took him home or said about the gun.
Thank fk no more watching his attorney dressing him and rubbing her hands all over him 😅 who the fk behaves like this towards their clients ON TV 😅
I guess the female defense fallen in love with Mr. Crumbley?
Maybe she's warm for his form? LOL! Probably making his ol'lady insecure and jealous now! LOL!
@@prokastinatore Seems like it! Its disgusting!
@@loristewart800why? Everyone needs someone.
The dad didn't kill anyone. The son did.
Sorry facts are facts. The son is evil not the father.
Start holding the Lil pookies accountable for their shootings 1st? Since they happen everyday.
Only reason this is happening is cause they are white
That’s his ATTORNEY?! I thought it was his WIFE
Yes, Mr. Crumbley did have a reaction: His face dropped and his facial expression looked as if he was going to get teary. Also, he shook his head as guilty verdicts were rendered.
God have bless the families. May they receive peace now
Wow you are truly working for satan. Good for you..👍
Got an add 1/2 through this video for a donation to the orange tool! 😂. I’m not in a cult thank you very much!
Yeah, vote for Biden cause he’s done such a great job …. I do not wan5 four more of Trump either but hell, Biden? Please God no!
So you like war, high gas prices and a government that tells you what to do? Gotcha.
11:10 @randyrenner7643 Well, tRump is taking credit for getting womens medical conditions completely controlled by the government. And everyone knows that the US president has nothing to do with the price of gasoline. And as for greedflation...ask Walmart why 80% of their employees are on welfare after another multi-billion dollar profit year?
Did you ever have a civics or an economy class in high school? A vote for Biden is the lesser of two evils vote indeed.
@@remedy9648 I rather vote for President Biden again than vote for a convicted sexual.assulter who now owes way to much money to ever pass the Whitehouse security clearing.
We'll see if the conviction survives appeal.
The school is just as much involved by not sending Ethan home on the day of the killings!
Schools don’t raise children ! Parents raise children. With that said this bullying officer that they had at the school was derelict in her duties ! It is my belief that while Ethan is wrong for his actions - this kid was bullied
And? The school isn't on trial.
Actually paying attention to details of this case would and obviously has shown huge neglect on the parents. Scary as hell people are terrified of being held accountable for their child's actions.
our sympathys too all the kids families❤❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Is he shaking his head in disbelief of the verdict? I hope NOT!
So weird with her fixing the tie
Crumbley shaking his head as the verdict was read tells me that he has no comprehension of what he and his wife did, they ignored this boy and a chain of events happened that lead to the fatal shootings and he showed zero remorse and the verdict was just.
Why does he wear headphones?
He cannot hear well.
From shooting guns with no protection. DUH!!
8:02 my goodness get a room already
Should have been accountable all along.
Right verdict was reached ..gun laws in America need to change .. lesson to parents if u go out and choose to buy ur underaged kid a weapon and than teach them how to kill .. then u Gota deal with the consequences.. they lie solely at the parents here … the only tragedy was these folks were allowed to be parents …
Let's not take this to such extreme. Crumbley didn't teach his psychopath son how to kill. He was an irresponsible parent who made the grossly negligent decision to buy his mentally troubled son a firearm, and then allowed him to have unfettered access to the firearm.
Agree but taking all guns is not, NOT the answer! Everyone please know that your criminals out there won't just politely turn in their weapons 😂😂
With that said, this is a horribly tragic case, one I hope parents learn from. Do not buy guns for your children, when they need and beg for help, get it! It's your responsibility....
Luckily most underage gun violence are from kids who steal guns or buy them off the black market. Most kids don't own guns, although they should if adults want to legalize having sex with them like they are pushing in California. Guns are meant for self-protection after all. Only criminals use them to do violence on innocent victims.
I don’t like guns and I can’t own guns. But taking them away from law abiding citizens won’t solve a god damn thing
Ethan seems mentally ill, but isn't he in a regular prison? Why?
Because the prosecution would not have been able to send him to prison if he was found to be mentally ill. He would have been sent to a mental institution instead for treatment. In the trials of the two parents, they flipped the script to fit their narrative and pushed the fact that he was mentally ill and the parents should have known it. They got to play the game both ways and won.
He pre planned everything for months. He's did what he said he would do. Period
That's because these despicable prosecutors claimed NO mental illness in the kid's Miller hearing to secure Life without parole for a Minor. They put a pyschiatrist on the stand to claim that the kid was in full control, no mental illness, no voices, no impulsive action, that is was planned, thought-out, he was able to manipulate, he had the ability/control to delay, and on and on. They secured this punishment. Then these disgusting prosecutors turned around and claimed mental illness, neglect of mental illness in the mother's trial. You can't have it both ways. It's either one or the other. These prosecutors threw in nonsense after nonsense into Jennifer's trial to make her appear to be a horrible mother. The affair, the fact that she loved horses somehow became a crime, the fact that she volunteered for ski patrol (which is basically on-mountain paramedics) also became a horrible crime and they somehow made her into pure evil. There is absolutely no evidence that the kid ever asked for any help. NONE. And if the kid wanted help so badly, he had the attention of 5 adults in the room and multiple school officials --- he could have asked for the help then -- but he didn't. And he didn't because he didn't want help. He is evil. The only thing that mattered in this case was whether the gun was stored appropriately. Everything else is complete nonsense. And is there a law on how the gun should be stored? I don't even know. I watched alot of Jennifer's trial, not that much of this one. The gun should have been stored more securely. If there is a law on how the gun should be stored, then James should be punished. If there is no law on how the gun should be stored -- then we sure as hell need one. Jennifer bought the bullets. If there is a law on how the bullets should be stored, then she should be punished. And if there is no law on how the bullets should be stored, then we sure as hell need to enact a law on how these things are to be stored. What these prosecutors were able to do here is absolutely horrifying. They played one-side of the coin, to get the kid full punishment (which I agree with) and then flipped the coin, and played the other side of the coin to get full punishment for both parents. Not right. Not moral. Not just. This case should have been tried on what the law was for gun storage and bullet storage and whether that was done or not. Nothing else.
Because mentally ill and legally insane are two different things under the law...it has been that way for a long time, most people just don't understand the distinction.
@@staceyhodur728 I remember working in mental health and they said legally you could only report it to the authorities when they had the time, place and who or the how. So many express such sentiments in therapy who never kill so they need to formulate enough to warn over. That is how so many escape red flag laws, they leave parts out. HIPPA, maybe you should protest to overturn that and then your spouse can learn your shady medical history.
The Christmas Gun...new on hallmark
His mother told him not to buy the gun for Christmas. Now we all see that you should not buy it. They're gonna have to ban that movie, "A Christmas story", where the father buys his son the red rider gun.
@@TheTruth-kh2im Big difference between a bb gun and a 9 mm pistol.
@TheTruth-kh2im theme song: "don't take your guns to town" by Johnny Cash
Yes
James, you're gonna think you're downhill skiing.
Another railroad story .
During the verdict he just shakes his head proving he doesn’t get it at all. He doesn’t understand that you just don’t buy a gun for a disturbed child. Once discipline was removed from the home and schools, what can you expect? Just two generations ago school shootings were never even thought of, but once there is no accountability you see what happens. Unless discipline is brought back, it will only get worse. Children thrive when parents are parents and they provide discipline for their children. School teachers have become nothing but professional day care workers and unless discipline is re-instilled at home and in school it will only get worse.
Now do black "dads" 😂😂🤣
You mean Mother's because fathers abandon those ladies and their children
But I do agree with you
@@drumsralwaysbest9234 that's why I put dads in quotes, lol. They don't exist 🤣
stay on topic. Blacks live in your head rent free
Look Ik everyone is afforded the right to a fair trial but come on…wasting money to basically delay what we already know is gonna ultimately become of mr. Crumbley .. I mean really was he truly expecting anything different especially when his wife was just found guilty.. I’m sorry but I’m just honestly confused
Why does he need headphones?
Hearing loss.
Why does he need head phones and why wasn't he dressed before entering the courtroom?
He was in a cell and partially deaf i believe
Why tf does it matter if he uses headphones, I’ve seen many cases where people use them,
he wanted to listen to acdc
@@Read.A.Journal.Article .....Highway to Hell, cause thats where he is probably going.
He's checking out a basketball game It's March playoff time.
Guns aren’t toys. Don’t own them if you’re too stupid and irresponsible to have them
What if this was a knife stabbing and the kid used kitchen knives to kill people?
@@thedude5040 it wasn’t a knife, it was a gun. How many times have we had a room full of young kids killed by a knife?
@@Moriningland go live in the UK and find out
Usual behavior. What is wrong with them?
Well, it was his responsibility to get his son help
Hell, Yeah!
Why does he have headphoned on?
He has some hearing loss. His hearing aids could become a problem. I don’t know why that is, but it is
How long is he looking at?
15 years, if concurrent. 60 years if consecutive.
Both parents are just sooo arrogant !!
His attorney is so touchy. Girl...stahp.
I think charging him with manslaughter is too far though, wat about all these other shootings. Should charge all them parents to. Where did it stop sometimes. He bought it, but who assumes their kid would do that. No one would think that. That's why I think its nit right. Should he be accountable for something yes but not murder
Let this be a lesson to everyone out there with kids who own guns
What sentence did the wife get ?????anybody?????
Same as his
Sentence is April 9th
@@wilmabetty2496 Wake TH up, please. Exactly what is wrong w/America.
Ezekiel 18:20
@ ronniesapp he’s listening country for the last time
How do you send him money?
Dont know how
Yeah, yeah
What do you mean no reaction he shook his head and put his head down and let go of his earpiece
Don't give children guns
Shoulda pulled out
Just keep in mind if you support a parent being blamed for what someone else does this is a slippery slope. What about gang killings by teenagers
One wise person among a sea of f**ls this is more than guns the elites are starting a trend
@@clu943 would the verdict be the same if the parents had a gun locked but the kid stole it?
What if the safety was left on. What's the difference between safety and a lock?
@@clu943 my parents bought me a shotgun at 15 years old with no restrictions. I even took to friends houses to go shooting.
What's the max time he could get?
15.
@@loveforeignaccents That's it?? He'll be out in 8. Smh...
60. If each conviction's sentence runs consecutive to each other.
@@SoCalDreaming87 Now that makes more sense.
@giancarlocarattini4985 I don't think it is likely, though. But, yeah, that is the max.
So if i get a d.u.i manslaughter does the dealership go to jal for loa ing me the money to buy the car
No but if you left a bar and got in an accident the bar and bartender can be held liable.
@@neojason8349I sold cigarettes as a cashier in college. Am I liable for everyone who gets lunch cancer?
@@thedude5040 your analogy doesn't make any sense. Say a father buys his 6 year old cigarettes, and 6 year old gives them to his classmates, that a more accurate analogy of what happened.
@@thedude5040
Maybe you should be.
@@SarahKingsleyHaussman I sold black people lotto tickets. Should I be liable for their lack of money in savings accounts?
There is a whole demographic of inner city teenagers whose parents should be help liable for all of the gang shootings, car jackings and assaults that occur every day, but I’m guessing their parents aren’t around to even charge
Outstanding comment and right on the mark ...
Exactly ! Well said .
Kaylee Gain.
The problem These Parents You're talking about don't go out by their Young gangsters. guns... But that being said It's good to see the justice system working, These parents went out and bought this deranged boy a pistol. Excellent jury... Wish I could have participated Putting these parents behind bars...👍🇺🇸🇺🇸 BUT This is for you parents, that have guns laying around your house with No gun safe, Your kids commit a crime with your gun.You're going to jail...👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸 😊
This kid was screaming for help and they ignored him like it was nothing and practically put the gun in his hands by buying it and not properly locking it away and not paying attention to the mental cry of this kid
Terrible jury he ain't guilty of anything
This is a tragedy.
So when a prison gaurd rapes a women should the wardon go to jail the idea behide this is foolish
A prison guard would be an adult, yeah?
We're talking about a child here that the parents had a respsonsibility for.
Same said child was seeing demons and things flying off shelves and informed his parents of such, to which mom laughed it off and dad told him to suck it up.
Try and live in the real world, Art.
Not sure about this.
Me either.
Dad's a jerk though.
It probably hit him how his wife played him.
He needs anger management.
Hmmmm.
Nobody mentions how the school could have checked Ethan's bag? That's negligent. Or are they not allowed to do that when a child's psychotic scribblings featuring his gun are discovered?
They are not allowed to do that. The cops can't walk into your house nor go in your vehicle without reasonable cause or a warrant. The school cannot go through student's person belongings.
There was no reasonable cause. They called his PARENTS in and they said he was fine, it was fine and he may be suicidal but we're going back to work. What if he DIDN'T have the gun and they searched him based off of his parents assuring the school they weren't even concerned enough to take him home.
His parents heard there was a school shooting and their first instinct was to check their guns and tell him, "don't do it!" If you thought your child was involved in a school shooting would your first thought be they're the shooter??? Or... The shot?
New rule is to blame everyone except the one to pull the trigger 😮
They are to blame too instead of buying their disturbed kid a gun they were suppose to get him a damn doctor. The boy ask for help
And you have ZERO idea what this trial is about, nor his wife's.
What about the grandparents and other extended family? Where does it end?
What about blk thug parents? When their ilk goes around shooting ppl up?
The parents. They have a legal duty to look after their child. This duty does not rest on further ascendants.
For all of those saying inner city parents should be convicted for their kids crimes these are two different things and you're are missing the point here, this kid was screaming for help to his parents and they ignored him and did nothing also bought a gun that was not lock away from this kid who was telling them he has mental problems and demons are speaking to him and they did nothing and this is why they are held accountable.
The government as guilty as parents if that's the logic.
I know a lot of people probably won’t agree with me but from what I seen it’s the normal family no signs of psychiatric institutions or mental problems it’s an honest family working an honest job make an honest living I don’t believe they thought they were doing wrong with buying him a weapon I feel that if they thought that he was capable of something like this that they would’ve taken action they don’t appear to be careless parents I feel that anger and frustration I’ve been taken out on the parents because of their sons actions and choices he made and the lives he took which I understand but it’s observed and ridiculous that the parents have to pay the consequences because of His actions and choices he made
I know many families who hunt and their sons, a few daughters, learn to handle hunting rifles at an early age. Those homes have strict rules about getting out the guns. They are locked up, secured. Buying a male teenager a hand gun is about as risky as it gets. Show me a teen who isn't all emotions. Mr. Crumbley is guilty of negligence in failing to secure the weapon. But neither he nor his wife pulled the trigger. I think the charges are bogus.
I have mixed feelings about this sad situation. I guess if the what she calls herself a mom was found guilty there would be no doubt the dad would too. Just one thing, I think the dad showed more empathy, told his son he loved him, cried during the trial. Idk what to think. The mother should go to jail for her shitty ass attitude and lack of support for her own son. Maybe if he was a horse, who knows. Crazy, this world is just too freaking crazy.
The DAD is the one who bought his mentally ill son a gun in the first place!
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They will both be out in 3 years and will write books (with ghost authors) and make lots of $ from interviews. No bad deed goes unrewarded
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Alot of parents buy their son dome kinda gun ,maybe fir Christmas or something. But they don't intend for them to shoot people. The boy must if had a problem
How are the administrators not on trial also!? Every adult that allowed Ethan to stay in that school that day is liable.
They have sovereign immunity. Also didn't know the minor was recently gifted a -- horribly dumb decision -- gun.
@@loveforeignaccents but they knew he was a big enough threat to call the parents into the school and beg them to take him away. Everyone knew this kid was dangerous. We shouldn't pick and choose what negligent adults we charge.. they all should be held liable.
@@tjhep4899 "Everyone knew this kid was dangerous"... except for his own parents!!
Terrible decision. Where does the guilt end ?
With the parents. Legal obligation to take care of the child. Wear a rubber if you don't want the obligation. Easy.
These verdicts will not stand
So, now we can charge parents when their children commit a crime???? This should get interesting!!! 🍿
The fact that he can sit there and shake his head, showing no remorse and that he and his wife feel they did nothing wrong. All three in this family deserve everything that is coming to them
This is all fine & well - & yes, it is my contention that the parents (as well as the principal offender) be made accountable - but there's a far simpler edict that could easily be followed: Cessate the sale of firearms - the Second Ammendment is so outmoded. A salient reminder - in 2024 alone, over thirty deaths have resulted as a consequence to inadequate firearms legislature & its control; you have schools with metal detectors, as well as security personnel on the gate - it's insanity. No President of the US in the last sixty years has ever truly stood up to the Gun Lobbyists, who, not coincidentally, hold sway over the vote (& therein) the political infrastructure of the entire nation. Unfortunately, I can categorically guarantee that more of the same will continue to increase; it is not a wish for such, but until the mindset of the United States alters perceptibly against the disproportionate ownership of firearms - & thereby procurement from anyone from the age of six thru' to their dotage - directly or indirectly, graveyeards & Crematoria will continue to burgeon. Not a week goes by without reportage of slayings - in educational establishments, eateries, shopping centres - the list is endless....it is an incredibly sad indictment upon the nation as a whole, & as far as I can see, it shall never relent without a concerted effort to curtail such.
Such an endeavor would not go the way you seem to think, and would do far more harm than good.
It is not my "thought" per se, rather that of common-sensical logic. The "harm" you speak of would (inexorably) only come from those protagonists who are deeply entrenched in the aforementioned Second Ammendment, ergo, why I signalled that an adoption to ammend the Ammendment, a necessary stratagem to relieve unnecessary loss of life. Currently, the population in the US is around three hundred & thirty-three million, with four hundred million firearms within that populace..as your compatriots are oft quoted to state, 'Do the mathematics'. If you have a solution - or at least the semblance of one, then I'd be delighted to hear your rationale....somehow, I don't consider you have. One thing is certain, whatever reforms are placed in-situ, it will take years, if not decades to accomplish.
Justice was not served.
Parents should never have been charged.
You need to check the law , you are responsible for your underage children!! Also, you can’t buy an underage person a gun !!
Love people who don’t respect the Law or a Jury ! Wish they would go live off the land in Alaska! Bye!
@@unoimright5153 If your kid crashes a car and hurts someone you going to jail with them?
@@arib515 if you gave the kid the car and keys and he was 13 …and he intentionally runs into 4-teenagers and they go to Jesus… yes … probably !!
@@arib515 NEWS FLASH a bartender can go to jail for over serving someone and they get into an accident and hurt someone!! Such responsibility living in society, huh !! There’s always off the grid … you don’t have to live in Society
He was a child in school. Where did he get the gun? Did Ethan graduate from high school? Nope. So who are the responsible adults here? Did Ethan buy the gun? No he did not. Do a heinous act? It all depends on the laws. How they are worded? Sad that 4 people were killed😢a lot of people knew what was going on but nobody bothered to make an effort to see what was wrong? Responsible gun owners teach kids right from wrong at a very young age. Guns are to be respected and used responsibly. Let's be honest who would do this? Why? Clearly Ethan did not care about taking a person's life? Love all people no matter what. Every person in this world is valuable in some sort of way. Taking a life is not the right thing to do. There is hard consequences for killing people. It's a crime to do this.
This is terribly wrong!! Sorry to the parents but this now sets a ridiculous precedent
It's "ridiculous" that parents have been convicted for gifting their mentally ill son a gun? Please, honey!
Yes. It is absolutely ridiculous to expect adults to honor their legal obligation to protect their child.
The child didn't elect to be there, the adults made that choice. Being a parent is a duty. An obligation. A burden. Perhaps we would have less delinquents walking around if people actually knew this and took it seriously. If not, wear a rubber.
sad situation that could have been prevented more than likely ... if not by better parenting then by having armed officers on EVERY campus its confusing why parents are against having immediate response with deadly force if zneed be
and on top of all that we need our mental health facilities back to help make these folkss functional again