Hi My PlayHouse, if you don't want to drill large diameter holes you can drill say, 5 or 6mm diameter holes, then dip with a 4mm wide strip of thin cardboard to find the levels. Easier to reseal using plugs or stainless steel screws. With opaque cases if you can see the levels are low, you can drill tiny 2mm holes & inject the distilled water like is done to refill ink cartridges. Polyester resin (car body filler) easily fills tiny holes & is pretty acid resistant. Much less pressure against tiny holes, especially during an overcharge situation. You can charge wet batteries for a few hours at up to 16 volts max to equalize/ help desulfate them ,in a well ventilated area. Don't do this more than twice a year. If you've drilled holes make sure the plates are initially covered, then add a bit more water at the end of the 15.5- 16v charge. (I've done this with Varta powerframe batteries similar to yours.) Have a nice day.
Thanks, My Playhouse. Incidentally I've found the same as you that the little electronic desulfators did nothing measurable to improve my batteries. I tried/ built 3 units. Tested the batteries with conductance testers & an Act meter. Regards.
Looks like my flat batteries also do not have any way to access them aside from drilling. That is the last time I am buying sealed lead acid batteries.
Hi +Alan Marshall You are right! i get a battery analyse,,, in not that many videos from this one,,that do it a littel bettere. Thank you for watching! :-)
I have this exact battery- was hoping not to drill and find a way to pop the covers off- there are holes in either ends of them. Was hoping they were the key to popping them off, perhaps a special tool or some improvisation might do that. do you still have this battery?
Never leave a battery on charge without supervision. I had 2 battery nearly explode on me. They were hot af boiling acid. Optima battery's 1 red and 1 blue. Charging using professional smart charger
Hi Morten, nice video. You can check the individual voltage of each cell with a multimeter by putting the + and the - in 2 nearby cells. The last cells it's between the last hole and the pole of of the battery. Don't put the leads in the holes (it will corrode them) instead put a wire (preferably a solid core wire) in an alligator clip and the wire in the hole. I'm also playing with batteries right now and have the same problem with dead cells.
Thank you for this video. I had a Varta battery too but I was not sure where to make a hole. How ever I used a piece of 15 mm pipe. I heated it on the gas hub and pushed it in the the battery. Warning: Make sure your wife is out when you do this.
I just tried to remove the cover of a battery with this construction to add water to the cells. Half an hour of prising and chiselling later, I realised the cover was welded and it didn't have caps like normal batteries. All I'd succeeded to do was break the welds and expose the open tops of the cells. Oops. I should have tried drilling it. Any ideas what you can use to close off those holes after drilling?
LMF5000: I started chiseling mine too but it seemed so hard that I started googling instead... found this video and reading your comment I won't continue. Thanks for saving me the problem of having a mangled battery top :) !
My PlayHouse, I have some batteries, yesterday I noticed something strange in mine; that your battery is the same as mine, they are '' johnson control '' battery; They have a labyrinth-shaped lid, I used a steel blade, and hammered, in the sides, near the ventilation hole, with the result of having removed the entire labyrinth cover, then I applied a plexiglass panel on top of it. made 6 small holes to vent the battery! It was not difficult! with this I could put water.
My problem is if I drill holes in the battery so I can add water and salt in it to charge it and use it how am I to re seal it? My battery doesn't have holes on the top it's a flat top deal.. do I pry it off? HOW WERE YOU GOING TO ISE YOURS WITH ALL THE HOLES IN IT?
I used a Philips head screwdriver and just hammered it lightly in with my hand and it went right thru the cover and it made a hole that a syringe could fit into. I currently have it on an equalising charge so i left it open for now, but since the holes i made are about 3mm i will try to melt it closed with a soldering iron when it finishes
Hey i want some advice bro i got new sealed acid battery during deleivery they doesnt handle it properly due to water is leaked no damage to battery is done just water is drained now i want to refill but we need to pull the battery upper plate which is hard i want advice that can i do 4-5 hole in battery rather to pull off all the plate which can make mor worse please explain?
Hi***** On this battery, it seemed that the whole top of the battery, was mounted after the cells were filled, and then also closed using melt welded plastic. I did not find other ways on this type :-/ Thank you for watching! :-)
Hi hasanaydin22 Thank You very much! I have messed with a lot of batteries,, and tried different things,,, and you need to know when it's a lost. and will just waste your time. Thank you for watching! :-)
Dear sir, in order tot fully charge a lead battery out have tot charge it up to 14.40 volts during the " bulk fase" in wich the battery is charged for 80 percent....after that your charger ( a modern ons that is , with a so could triple charge regime) your antique absaar only had one mode....a modern charger wil then go in the maintenance mode in which the voltage will bee reduced Tull 13.6 volts land allso with a smaller amperge that eventuele wil het the battery topped up till 100 percent of charge, thuis fase van taken the longest time mostly 6 ours or more, after thuis the charger wil " flout charge) with a voltage of no more thans 13.2 volts therofore keeping tour battery ready tot use when needed. In other wordt, i would advies tovgetvrit of that absaar land incest in a decent modern charger en try again nut charge for a day or two....then about 2 jours after getting the battery disconnect VROM charge you van make a voltage measure, a charges healthy battery schuld measure between 12.7 - 12.9 volt. Gold luck!
Hi giottodiotto1 You have very right, I really need, a more modern charger, but this battery had passed something that could be save. I saw your video: "Pulse charging a AGM Lear acid battery" that looked interesting. Thank you for watching! :-)
Rule of thumb ! If you know you got a old and fail battery with a multimeter test ! Never plug a charger in to charge a battery ! Always remove the caps to insure all 6 cells is top off with distilled water before attempting to charge ! If you disregard this and you try to charge with low water level ? You will fried the cells and the battery will be no good then for rebuild ! This is the #1 cause of bad cells... humans nature !
@@MyPlayHouse ever got that battery figure out how to rebuild it ? Need help ? Let me know ? I walk you through it BOSS ! It's easy .... ! I do this all the time to save money eyes on all battery .
Hi +Alan Marshall I do this in a later video,, i charges 10 small UPS batteries in parallel. I want my battery's in banks of four,, to get 48volt instead of parallel. Thank you for watching! :-)
Looks like you wasted your time on that duff battery! And I my time watching your duff video, but hey! what lengths people go to to get clicks on here😛
Well You know,, I did some testing and investigating,, sometimes it turns out to work sometime,,, not so much. I do edit my videos down,, the filming might take 4-5 hours,, so you "wasted" 10-20min but now knows not to do this,, or got an idea on how you can try to improve on what I did,, and do not have to start from scratch.
Hi My PlayHouse, if you don't want to drill large diameter holes you can drill say, 5 or 6mm diameter holes, then dip with a 4mm wide strip of thin cardboard to find the levels. Easier to reseal using plugs or stainless steel screws. With opaque cases if you can see the levels are low, you can drill tiny 2mm holes & inject the distilled water like is done to refill ink cartridges. Polyester resin (car body filler) easily fills tiny holes & is pretty acid resistant. Much less pressure against tiny holes, especially during an overcharge situation. You can charge wet batteries for a few hours at up to 16 volts max to equalize/ help desulfate them ,in a well ventilated area. Don't do this more than twice a year. If you've drilled holes make sure the plates are initially covered, then add a bit more water at the end of the 15.5- 16v charge. (I've done this with Varta powerframe batteries similar to yours.) Have a nice day.
Hi Michael Thomas
Thank You very much!
Thank you for watching! :-)
Thanks, My Playhouse. Incidentally I've found the same as you that the little electronic desulfators did nothing measurable to improve my batteries. I tried/ built 3 units. Tested the batteries with conductance testers & an Act meter. Regards.
Looks like my flat batteries also do not have any way to access them aside from drilling. That is the last time I am buying sealed lead acid batteries.
Yes,, services free batteries are great, until they need service.
Voltage u are measuring is voltage of charger.
To measure voltage of battery u need to disconnect charger and wait 24 hours!
Regards Alan
Hi +Alan Marshall
You are right! i get a battery analyse,,, in not that many videos from this one,,that do it a littel bettere.
Thank you for watching! :-)
Slm Türkiye de bu işi yapmaya çalışıyorum ama bı yerde hata yapıyorum galiba olmuyor.. yardımcı olur musunuz 🙏
I have this exact battery- was hoping not to drill and find a way to pop the covers off- there are holes in either ends of them. Was hoping they were the key to popping them off, perhaps a special tool or some improvisation might do that. do you still have this battery?
Hi +justinjoyit13
No i did a trade in with another old battery :-/ I did not find an easy way in.
Thank you for watching! :-)
Never leave a battery on charge without supervision. I had 2 battery nearly explode on me. They were hot af boiling acid. Optima battery's 1 red and 1 blue. Charging using professional smart charger
Hi IntoTheVortex
Thank You very much! a battery can be most of a day charging,, supervision can be hard..
Thank you for watching! :-)
Hi Morten, nice video. You can check the individual voltage of each cell with a multimeter by putting the + and the - in 2 nearby cells. The last cells it's between the last hole and the pole of of the battery. Don't put the leads in the holes (it will corrode them) instead put a wire (preferably a solid core wire) in an alligator clip and the wire in the hole. I'm also playing with batteries right now and have the same problem with dead cells.
Hi +Roman Berger
I do this in one of my videos :-) i was trying to find it for you,,,but there is so many :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
My PlayHouse No worries I'll get to it. I started from the beginning so now i am at 198
Hi Roman Berger
I´d like to hear what you think when you get to the end :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
My PlayHouse Ok
Thank you for this video. I had a Varta battery too but I was not sure where to make a hole. How ever I used a piece of 15 mm pipe. I heated it on the gas hub and pushed it in the the battery. Warning: Make sure your wife is out when you do this.
Hi MaleAdaptor
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
I just tried to remove the cover of a battery with this construction to add water to the cells. Half an hour of prising and chiselling later, I realised the cover was welded and it didn't have caps like normal batteries. All I'd succeeded to do was break the welds and expose the open tops of the cells. Oops. I should have tried drilling it. Any ideas what you can use to close off those holes after drilling?
Hi LMF5000
Maybe some hot glue,, would do.
Thank you for watching! :-)
LMF5000: I started chiseling mine too but it seemed so hard that I started googling instead... found this video and reading your comment I won't continue. Thanks for saving me the problem of having a mangled battery top :) !
LMF5000 epoxy
My PlayHouse, I have some batteries, yesterday I noticed something strange in mine; that your battery is the same as mine, they are '' johnson control '' battery;
They have a labyrinth-shaped lid, I used a steel blade, and hammered, in the sides, near the ventilation hole, with the result of having removed the entire labyrinth cover, then I applied a plexiglass panel on top of it. made 6 small holes to vent the battery! It was not difficult! with this I could put water.
Hi Luca di paolonicola
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
How did you plug the holes in your plexiglass? TIA...
You need to be wearing eye protection when drilling, in case drill bit spews upward acid of acid laden plastic particles.
My problem is if I drill holes in the battery so I can add water and salt in it to charge it and use it how am I to re seal it? My battery doesn't have holes on the top it's a flat top deal.. do I pry it off? HOW WERE YOU GOING TO ISE YOURS WITH ALL THE HOLES IN IT?
I would probably use hot glue today,, but I did not have much susses with this project.
I used a Philips head screwdriver and just hammered it lightly in with my hand and it went right thru the cover and it made a hole that a syringe could fit into. I currently have it on an equalising charge so i left it open for now, but since the holes i made are about 3mm i will try to melt it closed with a soldering iron when it finishes
drill 4-5mm holes, test the acid level with cardboard stripes, fill it up with distilled water and then use metal screws to close it. easy!
Great video ! Thanks for sharing it :)
Hi Jörgen Engström
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
Did you ever do more experiments on drilling holes to more recent car batteries (new ones being sealed) and how to reseal them? Thanks
Hi TheBlackadder Edmund
Thank You very much! I tried a lot of unsuccessful things. :-/
Thank you for watching! :-)
How you think your battery cgarge 12 v or more if the charger you are using its 11?😮
Sorry,, I do not follow.
Hey i want some advice bro i got new sealed acid battery during deleivery they doesnt handle it properly due to water is leaked no damage to battery is done just water is drained now i want to refill but we need to pull the battery upper plate which is hard i want advice that can i do 4-5 hole in battery rather to pull off all the plate which can make mor worse please explain?
You should probably talk to the places where you got it first,, maybe there is other issues.
there are posibility to open top cap withuot driling?
Hi***** On this battery, it seemed that the whole top of the battery, was mounted after the cells were filled, and then also closed using melt welded plastic.
I did not find other ways on this type :-/
Thank you for watching! :-)
Morten Hjorth Thanks for reply i have bosch and its same i gues.
Hi *****
Yes I will also be of the belief that Bosch would be mutch the same.
Thank you for watching! :-)
:( i thought you were going to fix the bad cell watched all the way not charge and dis charge a bad battery thanks anyway for the effort
Hi hasanaydin22
Thank You very much! I have messed with a lot of batteries,, and tried different things,,, and you need to know when it's a lost. and will just waste your time.
Thank you for watching! :-)
Dear sir, in order tot fully charge a lead battery out have tot charge it up to 14.40 volts during the " bulk fase" in wich the battery is charged for 80 percent....after that your charger ( a modern ons that is , with a so could triple charge regime) your antique absaar only had one mode....a modern charger wil then go in the maintenance mode in which the voltage will bee reduced Tull 13.6 volts land allso with a smaller amperge that eventuele wil het the battery topped up till 100 percent of charge, thuis fase van taken the longest time mostly 6 ours or more, after thuis the charger wil " flout charge) with a voltage of no more thans 13.2 volts therofore keeping tour battery ready tot use when needed.
In other wordt, i would advies tovgetvrit of that absaar land incest in a decent modern charger en try again nut charge for a day or two....then about 2 jours after getting the battery disconnect VROM charge you van make a voltage measure, a charges healthy battery schuld measure between 12.7 - 12.9 volt.
Gold luck!
Hi giottodiotto1
You have very right, I really need, a more modern charger, but this battery had passed something that could be save.
I saw your video: "Pulse charging a AGM Lear acid battery" that looked interesting.
Thank you for watching! :-)
Rule of thumb ! If you know you got a old and fail battery with a multimeter test ! Never plug a charger in to charge a battery ! Always remove the caps to insure all 6 cells is top off with distilled water before attempting to charge ! If you disregard this and you try to charge with low water level ? You will fried the cells and the battery will be no good then for rebuild ! This is the #1 cause of bad cells... humans nature !
Hi Joeblow Johnny
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
@@MyPlayHouse ever got that battery figure out how to rebuild it ? Need help ? Let me know ? I walk you through it BOSS ! It's easy .... ! I do this all the time to save money eyes on all battery .
Carta g3 has caps?
40 Watts for 0.5 Hr
40W/12V = 3.333 Amps
3.333A * 0.5 Hrs = 1.666 AH
Hi +Alan Marshall
1.666AH,,, not not worth spending more time on ,,right,,,there must be a way to fix these :-/
Thank you for watching! :-)
+My PlayHouse (Morten Hjorth) If u discharge them slowley (0.5 amp) u will get a lot more.
I paralel up to 4 to get 2Amp discharge.
Hi +Alan Marshall
I do this in a later video,, i charges 10 small UPS batteries in parallel. I want my battery's in banks of four,, to get 48volt instead of parallel.
Thank you for watching! :-)
Oh NVM I've read your comment
Okay,, that is always good,, lots of smart people with ,,most of the time good sugestions.
Looks like you wasted your time on that duff battery! And I my time watching your duff video, but hey! what lengths people go to to get clicks on here😛
Well You know,, I did some testing and investigating,, sometimes it turns out to work sometime,,, not so much. I do edit my videos down,, the filming might take 4-5 hours,, so you "wasted" 10-20min but now knows not to do this,, or got an idea on how you can try to improve on what I did,, and do not have to start from scratch.
Are you drunk 🥴
No,, You?
@@MyPlayHouse i think ya smell 👃 and I think ya clogged up the toilet 🚽;)