Why This Mechanic Can't Stand His Hyundai Santa Fe
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- Опубліковано 18 тра 2024
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Which Lexus, I’m looking into replacing a station wagon, what Lexus is most like Subaru Outback? Thanks!
Hi Wizard, could you make a video for a mazda vehicle or which mazda to buy or not to buy? It seems like to me mazda has build up decent sales and reputations to be a quality automaker. Thanks
Please get out of debt Americans. If you are a wannabe, please stay in debt and buy some nice cars!
Whoa when was this taken? -5? Wow old video haha. Hopefully you guys survived the storms today.
Wizard, to be fair the GDI motor in this particular generation of Santa Fe was notoriously bad but some of the suspension components sound like wear and tear due to age.
This is why you ALWAYS get a fuel service done every 30K. No exceptions. In addition if you put in BG44K in your gas tank every other oil change (every 10K miles) it will also help reduce the amount of carbon around the valves.
@@beebong1 Or just buy a Toyota, they engineered it to where you don't need to do that.
This generation didn't have GDI
Exactly! A 12 year old vehicle with rubber bushings won’t last forever.
My 12 year old 175k mile tacoma hasn't had any single issue other than base nuts maintenance and consumables. I've done some bushings out of the pursuit of the best steering and handling I can get as I spend 90% of my time on a 75mph highway.
Winter weather? Looks like Car Wizard found some old lost footage
He's on vacation. Hoovie went to see him before he left 🙂
He's on a cruise. Deal with it!
That’s what I thought too, its like 80 degrees in newton atm
My parents had a 2012 Santa Fe. Bought brand new, that car went through three transmissions and 2 engines, not to mention all the smaller issues. The worst car that they have ever had. They got rid of it at 99,000 miles because they didn’t want to deal with it out of warranty. Now they own a 2021 Lexus and a 2021 Volvo which have been perfectly reliable.
My father owns a 2002 Honda Odyssey since 2007 that thing just runs forever yes it got dated quickly but it is a Honda it runs. What killed those vans was transmission shift into third from 2nd hard. My dad's van have that issue if I drive it rough. Other than that it shifts into third from 2nd with no issues. We even forgot to get atf flushed out.
My boss bought his daughter a 2006 Sonata 3.3 V6 with around 140k miles for his daughter as a graduation present. She's had it 7 years, has been doing door dash and other deliveries and he says she's been really good about telling him when she needs an oil change, etc. The car now has 380,000 miles. The only breakdown occurred because the valve cover gasket leaked oil into the alternator. My boss says that car has been the best $3500 he's ever spent.
I have a 2010 Sonata 3.3l with 350,000. Used as a courier vehicle. Best car ever far as longevity. Still driving it.
My mom bought her 2007 3.3 new. All these years later she says she doesn't want another car, it's been largely trouble free. Yep, that common valve cover gasket problem, the recall fix didn't work. On the 4th alternator now, I think the first 3 were reimbursed. What's interesting we also have a 2006 Sonata with the same 3.3, it doesn't have that problem. The reason for the leak is the slight tilt of the angle of the engine in Santa Fe.
^ I second that. Gen 5 sonatas (06-10’) are hidden gems. The V6 is surprisingly quick, huge trunk, nice factory audio system ($10 fm transmitter was game changing), 30mpg highway, and you can get them with 100k miles for 4-5k easily.
I have an 08 that was my first car I ever bought. Has been so reliable, it’s the only car I’ve ever bought. Many years later I still see no reason to “upgrade”.
V6 Hyundai are good
That 3.3L is probably the best motor Hyundai/Kia ever put out. I'm sure it's actually a leased/purchased design like a lot of their motors. Example. My Sorento's 3.5L motor is actually just a Mitsubishi 6G74 with a slightly taller deck to the heads. The infamously terrible Theta motors, are actually Mitsubishi 4B11's but some idiot enginerd somewhere decided to make the oil and cooling passages SMALLER. What a bright idea.
MANY mechanics that work on them call them 100k mile disposable vehicles.they soon begin to fall apart after 100k miles.
Sounds just like a Mini Cooper. After 100,000 miles, they start to drain your bank account.
That’s how I spell FORD
I disagree about minis.
They nickel and dime you from the start! My R56 mini base with the 1.6 has 188k miles and it cruises at 120 mph like a BMW. The steering is incredible, floor mounted throttle like a Porsche.
That's pretty much every car today besides Toyota and Honda, maybe Subaru.
@@wigletron2846Suburu, no. LoL
Most of those problems are common on any vehicle over 100,000 miles. I have a camry and have had some the same problems. Common for suspension parts to wear out and need replacement.
My girlfriend had a 2019 Hyundai Sonata and it literally caught on fire.
dealer refused honor warranty.
DO NOT EVEN TOUCH hyundai or KIA
Bought Kia Soul 2012, DOHC 2.0L engine, 98K on odometer from Houston Kia dealership. The salesperson pitched the powertrain warranty. I accepted. 4K later, the transmission failed. The dealership installed a 2800 rebuilt transmission. My deductible was just $250. $240 of rental car credit. Get that powertrain warranty for those Hyundai / Kia vehicles. Or just buy a well maintained Mazda.
It's common to have people steal and start your cars with usb's? And it's so bad insurance companies refuse to insure the make of car. Lol some people are so dumb it's unreal
@@fffwe3876 That's weird. There was a recall for it. Must have been a neglected car.
@@ourgreatsurrenderinchiefjo4245 You're right. Some people are dumb. Your comment has nothing to do with any of this car's problems.
It sounds pretty funny to me that a mechanic did not do a pre-sales inspection of a vehicle he's buying for himself but you all keep telling us to always get one so in that sense sounds like he got the vehicle he deserved
Most likely he got it at a super low price that he didn't care if it had issues since he could do any repairs himself
@@zarbon700 sounds like he took a loan to buy it, since he was ''almost finished paying the car off''
Yes, thus mechanic strangely enough is nodding to everything the wizard is saying. Obviously few sensor and bushing is hardly anything to get furious about. Especially on a 15 year old vehicle. I know one family who spent nothing on a 2010 hyundai santa fe six cylinder expect oil change and the vehicle kept running. The brakes, rotors were worn out ..etc but they spent next to nothing. The vehicle drove smoothly and was quite nice. I drove this vehicle.
Yeah we all live and learn I guess
Ever heard the saying" doctors make the worst patients"? Same applies to mechanics!
My 2011 Santa Fe I bought used with 90k miles. It has a V6 and it’s amazing. No problems with oil leaking. Some wear and tear stuff but that’s expected. And I did a presale inspection to make sure it wasn’t a lemon
And we have a 2007 Hyundai Azera that is also a gem. Amazing V6 engine as well without oil leaks or coolant leaks!
bought my daughter a 2018Hyundai Santa Fe in 2019. The single worst purchase I've ever made - it hasn't been stolen or burst into flames [yet] but our insurance premiums in Illinois are more reflective of a luxury sedan than an economy vehicle.
@@tocreatee3585 Sante Fe is not an economy vehicle. It's a midsize family SUV.
I see a lot of comments here saying “mine is bulletproof!!!”
That’s nice and I’m happy for you
But just because you got lucky doesn’t mean these are quality cars
There is a reason these are 1/2 the price used as an equivalent Honda or Toyota
All cars are half a Honda or Toyota.....NOTHING wrong with korean cars...
@@chadhaire1711 Don't forget, this is the Scotty Kilmer Jr. channel.
Spot on
Yeah, they have that silly 5 year bumper to bumper vs 3yr for japan autos.
@@chadhaire1711 Yes, and when you prod the complaining owners and/or do some investigation, it almost always comes down to lack of maintenance. Those early VVT engines are very sensitive to contaminated oil, so the mantra for these vehicles is "maintenance, more often is better". Sure, there's always a chance the one you buy is a lemon, but then Toyota and Honda also have lemons, it's just a fact of life.
Many of the complaints on Daniel San's list are just worn-out parts and those are typical on relatively heavy vehicles with engines that are being worked very hard by owners who "want to drive them sporty".
I had a 16 Tucson with 120K on it. It burned 2.8 Q of oil every 1000 miles. I got rid of it and bought a Lexus. The best move ever
My 2005 RX330 has entered the chat😂224K and runs like a champ!👍
2.8 Quarts is an oddly specific amount of oil
Over priced Toyota
@@il94z12 it's a luxury brand of Toyota lol
You'd think a mechanic would know that. This channel is going to the dogs
It is over 10 years old those sound like normal wear items for that age of vehicle
spot on
My Honda didn’t start having problems for 18 years. It was the door locks and window motors.
Those are normal wear and tear items. It's fortunate that this is a Hyundai, because those parts prices for a Honda or Toyota would be outrageous. The bottom line is Toyota's and Hondas are very expensive to repair because the couch run parts prices. Example: door latch for Hyundai is $45. Door latch for Toyota sienna is $1,800.
My 2010 honda civic never had any of these problems.
@@raybod1775 my 2007 kia minivan doesnt have those problems 200k miles on it now
As a Hyundai tech of 6 years, a 2012 Santa Fe was the last year of the good engine. After 2013 when they went GDI, they were garbage. This body style has its issues like the transmission temp sensor that goes bad (requires transmission valve body removal to replace), rear wheel hub bearings that have to be replaced due to failed wheel speed sensors (sensors are built into the hub) and a host of electrical issues.
I will say that have a 12 to 13 year old vehicle with rubber bushings will not last forever. Daniel San replacing his control arm bushings, sway bar end links & bushing plus rear trailing arm bushings starting to tear is normal wear & tear. My wife had to replace front lower control arm bushings on her 2012 Honda Accord before I ever met her. She also had to have the VTEC solenoid O-ring replaced due to oil leakage (this all occurred at 84,000 miles). Does this mean that her Honda is bad? Absolutely not, those items are wear items, they will fail over time.
Same thing is happening with my brother-in-law’s 2010 Toyota Camry. He needed CV axles boots, valve cover gasket and struts because, again, these are wear items that will require replacement over time. Both Honda & Toyota are having their fair share of quality control issues that require a recall.
Currently, Honda will not sell any Acura/Honda vehicle with the J-series V6 due to poor machining in the oil galleries that will cause engine failures. Toyota is recalling a host of vehicles due to failing low pressure fuel pumps that will cause the vehicle to stall. Yes, on the whole Honda & Toyota are known for their reliability but the truth is, doing a Used Car Inspection from a reputable technician is anyone’s best bet before buying a vehicle. That & researching that particular vehicle to see will the cost of ownership be more than a consumer can handle.
Also, does Daniel San know the exact history of this Santa Fe? For example, the service records from the previous owner? To make a blanket statement that all Hyundai & Kia’s can’t be recommended is a bit of a stretch. I personally for one, WOULD recommend a 2007-12 Santa Fe with either the 3.3 V6 (used from 2007-2009) or the 3.5 V6 used from 2010-12 (the 4 cylinder not so much since the fuel economy isn’t much better than the V6 and certain 4 cylinders had oil consumption issues, plus you get better performance from the V6). As I stated before, there are some issues that it has but overall, I used to see these models come into my old Hyundai dealer with over 130,000 miles needing maintenance.
Well said. Dont confuse wear and tear with poor workmanship. Im going on 20 worry free years w Hyundais. Take care of the maintenance and they will take care of you. Unlike the Mercedes, Audis and BMWs I’ve owned and still own.
What about the Genesis with the 3.3t engines how good are they long term ? I’ve had a 2012 Genesis with the 4.6 v8 and that engine reached 200k with only cam sensors going bad
It’s good internet fodder to throw insults at car brands. It gets the armchair quarterbacks all riled up. Funny thing is, if you do a search you’ll find horror stories on all brands. I don’t care what it is. Since the late 1980s I’ve owned five VWs. Three from new. The internet “experts” hated them all. Strange because I experienced exactly none of the problems they claimed. It is true all manufacturers have hiccups. So you need to listen to these issues same as reading Amazon reviews. Some are exaggerated and some aren’t. Good luck figuring out which is which.
@@haitibwoi6122 I personally wouldn't recommend a turbocharged Hyundai. From my experience as a tech, I've replaced failed turbochargers on every Hyundai model from the Genesis coupe with the 2.0 to the 1.6 turbo in the Velosters & Tucsons. The 3.3 turbos suffer from leaking oil feed hoses that were actually a recall on the G70s. If not careful, the oil feed will leak onto the hot turbo & could catch on fire. The 4.6 Tau engine is a good strong engine that will last a good while.
I'm running a 2011 Elantra Touring that recently passed 200k. No issues besides wear items needing replacing like you said. I know others with the same model at the same or even higher mileage then mine.
Hyundai can make some decent cars, it's just a matter of doing research on the model you want (which you should do for any vehicle, regardless of the manufacturer's reputation) and staying on top of maintenance.
That was said pretty well. I had a buddy that bought a Kia used and other than the 2.4 GDI engine which was replaced under the recall free it lasted till about 130k miles with little issues. After that the repairs racked up pretty quick. And he finally dumped it once the transmission started slipping. If you’re a person that buys new or used cars and drive them a few years until 80k-100k miles Hyundai and Kia’s could work for you. If you plan on driving them much further than 100k stay away.
I have the Gen 1 Santa Fe. It was a $400 abused turd. The 2.7l V6 is impressive. I replaced the broken timing belt and bent valves on one side. It still runs after I fixed it! Had to replace lots of rubber parts, motor mounts, and other stuff. Once you get these parts replaced, it will keep running and going. It's okay for the DIY person, not a single mom.
My daughter had 1, she got rid of it with 380k mi on it. She only got rid of it to get a different car. Thing ran great still, and it wasn't all highway miles. My dad had 1 also, thing was a tank.
That 2.7L V6 seemed to be a pretty reliable engine. Hyundai learned from that mistake quickly and 'fixed' their newer engines accordingly.
The problem is ...this is a single mom car
My housemate has 1. Can't lock the doors, the rear hatch is stuck closed, the heating system doesn't work properly, lots of vibration and interior noises, the writing on buttons are gone even if the car isn't that old, the hvac poorly work, constantly adding oil, transmission slips...bunch of problems
The 2.7L in the 1st Gen Santa Fes were good engines. The 2nd Gens from '07 - '09 with the 3.3L V6 are considered the best SFs built, with the '09s being the top of the list. I personally own a 2010 Limited with 169k kms and a 2011 GLS with 270k kms, both have the 3.5L V6, 6 speed auto transmissions and are AWD. I've owned the 2011 for 7 years, and the 2010 for 1 year, and I do all of my own service work, unless I require a lift. Synthetic oil changes every 5k kms and regular maintenance as required, as well as yearly undercoating and cavity wax for rust prevention. The 2nd gen Santa Fes (3.3L and 3.5L V6 models) are nowhere near as unreliable as this video suggests, however I would personally never purchase a Santa Fe newer than 2012.5. That's when they came out with the Gen 3, 4 cyl GDI turbo engines that are notorious for dying. The 2nd Gen V6s are known for oil pressure switches that leak because they're made from plastic, and when they get to a certain age, the plastic becomes brittle and the sensor leaks oil onto the engine and transmission seam, which is commonly misdiagnosed as a rear main seal engine leak. Other than that, I've done frequent brake work on the 2011 (pads and rotors), fluid changes and the normal maintenance required for a 11-12 year old, high mileage vehicle. Yes that's also included ball joints, struts and bushings, but that's all because of age and the poor condition of the roads we drive on, and not the fact that these are poorly built SUVs. I actually picked the 2011 Santa Fe over vehicles like the CR-V because for one, the 3.5L makes 276HP, tows up to 3500lbs, is bigger than all of the same vehicles in that year class, and still gets 26-28 mpg on the highway. And in my area, these SUVs hold their value, not depreciate, as suggested in this video.
I always hear people talk about the warranty. It's like when you buy an Autozone part and keep having to change it out once a year when it fails. The warranty doesn't make it good or reliable.
There is a Tommy Boy reference joke somewhere in your comment. 😄
Warranties usually aren't worth the paper they're printed on 😂
@@drgti16v Exactly. I almost quoted him for my comment.
He got a lemon Santa Fe, my parents had a 2011 Santa Fe GLS that they got from Enterprise car sales with 33K miles, they only had to replace the starter and battery, and two struts before they traded it for a 23 Hyundai Tucson. The Santa Fe had 301K miles and still running when it was traded to the dealer, even the sales manager was shocked that it had that many miles with no major engines problems at all. The key is preventive maintenance on any engine, take care of it.
esactly=- no one knows the maintenance history and buying a used car is a risk-- I wouldnt buy a kis/hyundai with over 100k but new heck yeah
ONLY a starter, battery and struts? With 33k miles? The first thing I had to replace on my Mercedes was at 120k miles. A 50 dollar ignition suppressor...
@@Munakas-wq3gpthey bought it with 33k it now has 301k, they're saying over that many miles they put on it
I’ve never seen them make it 300k with out a transmission or motor replacement
@@KobeCorona-uj3zb I've never driven a car to 300k miles. I give up around 200k and after that I just don't trust the mechanics anymore...
I have a 2008 Santa Fe. Changed timing belt, water pump…etc at 98,000. Plugs at 98,000, CV left replaced. Now has 180,000 miles. Burns no oil. Still runs and drives smooth like it did at 98,000. Interior and exterior still looks fine probably because I took care of it. Hoping to get 250,000+
Am I the only one who fast forwards through the exterior styling and interior design walk-arounds?
No
Why on earth would you do that? The Hyundai Santa Fe is the pinnacle of automotive design.
Always. Being called ladies and gents, really?
Only Mrs Wizard's part. 🤣
I always skip it since months
This is an old model Santa Fe, 12 years old, with some wear issues.
The Honda Civic my son had, was overall reliable, but still had some creeks from the suspension and uneven brake rotors. The Toyota Prius we sold 9 years ago also had suspension noises, oil leak and cheap interior trim pieces that would break and Toyota was not able to fix.
Hyundai and Kia did improve drastically since. They are no longer priced much differently. Honda also had several quality issues around transmissions failing and oil consumption.
I think they messed up big time with their theta engine and with skimping on an immobilizer on many models. Bottom line, I am not sure you can condemn the entire lineup as unreliable today. A car from 12 years ago, that shares very little with the same car today, is not an indication of anything.
Agree. Many people that buy them are the type that don't maintain and take care of vehicles.
hyundai kia after 2010 are junks.
There was is still an ongoing massive engine recall on Kia/Hyundai with the four cylinder GDI engines. My wife's 14 Kia Sportage had one of those engines replaced one year ago. Every Kia dealership in our metro area is swapping out these bad motors 3 vehicles per day. Maintenance has nothing to do with it. These motors were defective from the factory.
I've been saying for years Kia Hyundai use poor cheap wire harnesses which turn into electrical problems on the vehicles & now fires, I had a 16 Sorento what a nightmare almost everything broke electrical issues up the a** battery continually dying, moon roof wouldn't close just a disaster, they entice with the designs of the car but reliability eventually catches up to you...
I think that because these cars are considered for low budget they are constantly overlooked in the maintenance department but if you just do the bare minimum these are very good reliable cars here in Colombia you can see them hit 200k and sometimes 300k and here we got the even smaller ones that are used as taxis and they run a lot even with natural gas conversion kit
I have a 2011 hyundai accent diesel manual, and 2015 kia sorento diesel auto at the 120,000 mile. I live in korea, so they're a dime and dozen. I've had the accent for about 10 years. Awesome car. Fun to drive. Low maintenance. Sorento bought it used 3 months ago. So far no issues. Best car I've owned. I've owned about 20. My impression: domestic cars in korea are best. Ive had volvo, vw, bmw and audi. But they've all failed me. Cost of maintenance was too high.
I had a 06 Hyundai tiburon and after 224k miles, I finally sold it. It was an absolutely great car. Never had to do anything major to keep it on the road.
Just picked up a 08 with the 2.7, spent good money replacing the same parts they list here. It’s all good tho it’s an old car it’s expected. I feel like these guys were too harsh on this car for no reason.
Well car wizard I have had the opposite experience.
2003 Kia spectra 215k miles before it rusted through
2010 Hyundai Tuscon 2.4 non GDI 303k miles
2013 Kia Soul 2.0 non GDI 197k miles
2020 Hyundai Elantra 2.0 GDI 207k miles
I'm sure you've worked on more Hyundai and Kia than I have owned but I'm either lucky or those people are unlucky.
I own a 2013 Santa Fe (three row seats) with a 3.3L V6 that I bought brand new. It has been well maintained and now has 155K miles. No engine issues. Did replace the rear differential electronic coupler, that's all.
Owner of 2012 Hyundai santa Fe here. Mine has close to 180k miles. Original everything, nothing replaced or broken except battey and starter last year. Most reliable car I have ever owned! My 2008 Santa fe had 220k miles when I sold it. Original everything! No issues. Excellent vehicles!
Same here. 2012 Hyundai Santa Fe. Almost 190k on the clock. I'm just now starting to have issues. The alternator replacement and starter replacement are stupid difficult compared to other cars that I have owned. To get the alternator out, you have to jack up the engine. #$@#$. The starter is not easy to get to either. Other than that, it's been a good vehicle. Of course, we don't have the GDI engine. It's my understanding that is the biggest POS ever made.
It’s definitely hit or miss everyone has their own experience and luck
He being awfully dramatic. This Santa Fe could have had a rough life
It seems unlikely that you got the one with all the parts that don't deteriorate
One question: How well did you maintain your vehicle? If the answer is very well you have proven my point.
Point is when Hyundai and Kias well maintained you get the odometer readings that you are enjoying.
My sister bought a Kia Sportage brand new. 2017. Did everything they recommend on time and it burns oil. It failed the test and they did a soak. Still failed so it's getting a new engine.
Only 80k miles or so!!
I bought a 2004 Hyundai Santa Fe for my wife in December 2003. When I got her the car of her dreams, a Ford Mustang convertible in 2014, I took the Hyundai. It now has over 200,000 miles with the original engine and transmission. It has been a very good car for us and the only major issue I’ve had was the lousy paint job from Hyundai. We had it repainted in 2015 and that paint job still looks great today with no rust (Florida vehicle) It’s still going up and down the road just fine with just basic repairs. It is starting to use some oil now though as I’ve noticed between oil changes, I have to put a quart in. Because these car prices are so ridiculously high, I’m just going keep driving her until the wheels fall off. 😄👍
I have a V6 GDI 2015 KIA Sorento, which is supposed to be similar or the same as the Santa Fe. I haven't had all of these problems. Mine is a Limited (flagship model) and I have had to replace an idle pulley on the timing chain loop, replaced an alternator, and HVAC compressor and A/C hard line. Otherwise, just small stuff like tires, alignment, a fog lamp bulb, and had one trouble interior light on the roof console in front, so I just replaced the entire console with a used one. Otherwise, it's been a terrific vehicle. Had it for 7 years now. I do scheduled oil changes using synthetic Castrol Edge (API SP/SN PLUS), and run STP intake valve cleaner through the intake every 25K miles to clean out the valves from carbon buildup. I also keep an eye on the EGR valve and replace as needed. Doing this, the engine has remained strong, smooth, and reliable.
Someone in this video has suggested a pre-purchase inspection. Probably would have been a good idea with this car.
I mean, this guy is a mechanic who has access to a shop and a lift and he didn't discover ANY of this stuff before buying?
@@ragweedmakesmesneeze Good point
@@ragweedmakesmesneeze That doesn't make a good video, so... "no".
@@ragweedmakesmesneeze mechanic should do his own pre-purchase inspection. Otherwise buy a CPO car, it might even be cheaper than a non CPO car.
@@ragweedmakesmesneeze EXACTLY! It's a 12 year old vehicle with 130,000 miles on it. So you need new CV axles, Big Deal, they're $100. for the pair, and ZERO labor. All the things you've described are normal items that wear out. I've owned 2 Hyundai's and would Gladly buy another one.
Here in Ireland we get those Santa fes with a 2.2 diesel and they're relatively reliable
i was a hyundai tech in australia. we rarely had problems with these, but ours were also mainly diesel or the v6 versions. i think NZ got the 4cyl petrol. we had one guy ship his car across and getting parts was a little hard. many did 200K kms. nothing of note apart from wear and tear items.
that engine is so basic and easy to work on. it should never have been neglected. that list honestly wasn't too bad. the engine looked like it had no leaks at all.
today i serviced a 2019 jaguar xe or xf. with 40,000kms and it had coolant leaking from its plastic water pipes.
my parents own bmws that try their hardest to fail.
my brother owns a mercedes, 2011 e250 cdi , i had the engine out and basically had to replace all seals on the engine due to coolant leaks and oil leaks, they made the water pump and housing out of plastic and it cracked. still has leaks.
I got a 2005 Mazda6 isport in December with 110k miles, single owner & no accidents and have had to replace the input sensor, right front axle (torn boot), rear shocks, and the rest I did as preventative; transmission oil change, transmission mount, engine cover gasket, alternator, pulleys & tensioners, drive belt, tie rods and stabilizer links.
Kansas winter is no joke. Its 90 on the missouri side 😅
Why buy one, when all it takes to steal one is a screwdriver, a USB plug, and, about 15 seconds.
not that year
Yeah if you buy a poverty spec Kia and Hyundai
@@CJ-fh5xq no you don't buy it, you steal it
All Hyundai and Kias are poverty spec. They will put you in the poor house maintaining them.
total BS only the low enbd models without push start
Good video. This video confirms other opinions of these vehicles that I have heard. I was told to get rid of a car once by a mechanic. However, this was a Mazda based Ford Escort with 224,000 miles and over 20 years on it. We had worn it out. Please do a video on the woodie behind you, if you still have it.
We purchased a 2017 Sonata with 32 miles on it. The trunk latch needed to be replaced, which was under recall. I replaced the hood struts. It has less than 60k on it and has been very reliable. Highway MPG is 36-38.
I've had my Kia Rio 5 for 9 years. Runs like a top. If regular maintenance is done from the get-go, they do quite well.
Same for me, 10 years...
Rios have an ancient 1.6 liter engine they seem to be way more solid than the 2.4s
buy a used car with over 100k miles and no maintenance history and wonder why it has issues-
I have almost exactly the same car, a 2012 GLS AWD. I need to replace the hood struts and I've replaced the starter twice. It has 180,000 miles on it now. Best car I've ever owned.
Happy to see where the wizard channel is 🎉congrats
Actually sounds like he has done pretty well with it. Being able to fix it himself and the list of parts wasn’t all that expensive.
Not much for him to replace I'm sure. It's the labor prices at dealers and garages that kill you.
Isn't that Santa Fe kind of old (circa 2012)?
Correct. 2013 or 2014 was the next generation which was much improved. Expect for issues with the 2.4 engine.
My wife has had two Hyundai Sonata Limited's (2006 w/3.3L V6) and currently a 2014 Limited (2.4L 4 cylinder). Not one warranty claim on either and both are/were over 100K miles. Maintenance is the key! When you buy used, it's a risk for sure but we always buy new and keep them 8+ years or more.
Great Channel Car Wizard!
But Wizard it was cheaper than the Rav 4
🤣🤣🤣
The Rav4 an Santa Fe are an entire class apart.
The Tucson is the eq. Hyundai to the Rav4.
Define "cheaper" when you have to dump a ton of money on it to fix all the deferred maintenance items on this vehicle.
I disagree. I have a 2012 Hyundai Elantra Touring GLS otherwise known as the i30. It has been the most reliable car I have owned. It has been easy to maintain, great on gas and has not failed me in the way this Sante Fe has. I have 130k and have no issues. It runs quiet like it's brand new. It has been inexpensive to replace parts and have them installed. I have owned this car since new and costs have been $300 or less a year. It has the 2.0 engine and it's been great
Everyone i know with this car and an engine blow before 100k
I disagree. I have a 2012 Hyundai Sonata and the engine seized up on me at 152k, had very regular maintenance intervals and it had clean oil. I'm still working with my local dealership to get the engine replaced under recall warranty. I'll never be buying Korean again
@@isaacbrown1106 Sucks for them. I haven't ever had an issue with mine. But I also do regular maintenance and inspect my engine and mechanics often
@@Evan2that's rough, I'm sorry you had those issues but at least they are working with you. Maybe you just got a bad engine or something wore out prematurely
Not arguing with anyone here but in my experience I'd say ur lucky but good for u
Rented one in 2017 to go to Salem Oregon for the eclipse from the Bay Area. Loved it. Also, the newest one gets very high marks, even from Hoovie and April.
We bought our 17 Santa Fe sport with the 2.4GDI engine and just hit 102xxx and it’s been faultless the entire time. Oil changes every 4-5k and transmission fluid, spark plugs, and coolant flush every 40k miles. Brakes just got replaced and we’re on our 3rd set of tires. We plan on keeping this forever.
Count your blessings up to this point. It’s guaranteed after 100k to start having major problems. Good luck with that car.
Our 2017 V8 slightly more miles at 130ish one day randomly threw on the temp gauge and the motor went to junk. In order to replace it would have been 37,000 on a car of value at 17000. What a POS.
Bought one of these, a 2010, with the manual transmission (lol) during lockdowns just before inflation/car demand went through the roof. Super cheap and it was in good shape - oil sprayed for rust and I suspect garage stored, used as a second car by a retired couple out in the country. Looked almost new inside and out at 105k miles. Guy at the lot was surely glad to be rid of it, a manual SUV???
Bought it with the understanding that it was a 10+ year old car and it was going to need some work. Also did my homework into the Theta II problem before buying, and seems the MPI is not affected (UOAs reflect this). I'm at 125k miles now as well, and it's been basically solid but has had a couple silly things go wrong - the ECU went bad (?!?) but that was easily fixed by sourcing good used ($70) and having a dude clone it ($300). Front wheel bearings have both died, and a ball joint. Silly part here is that the axles could NOT be removed from the knuckles as they had rusted in, and ended up having to cut the axles up. Sounds like this wasn't the worst problem to have as the boots likely didn't have much life left in them.
In my opinion this review/non-recommendation was unnecessarily harsh. They are cheap cars to buy, parts are very reasonable and they are simple and uncomplicated to work on. A Toyota/Honda at the same price point is going to be much higher mileage/older and going to need this kind of work, and they have their share of foibles (can we talk about that 2AZ engine?). This kind of advice from these UA-cam mechanics is akin to "stop being poor" or "just quit being fat to get healthy". - sounds smart but too broad to be helpful. Do your homework about the thing you're going to spend lots of money on, and entrust your life to, and you'll be fine.
Very good point. I’ve seen just as many people get screwed on Toyotas because they think the brand reputation trumps age and wear on their vehicles. Bushings will still wear out and need to be replaced on literally every car eventually. My 1999 Lexus LS400 needs most of the front suspension components just from being old, even though the thing only has 137k
@@quintonulm2435 ok, but... Yotas and Hondas have a long history of making reliable products that last. I buy them, but also appreciate first checking for wear and routine maintenance. Id wager far more get burned buying a used Hyundai vs Toyota simply due to the engine and transmission issues alone.
That said, I find it humorous a buddy blew the engine in his Avalon 2 times before realizing the mechanics doing the work neglected to properly rebuild the cartridge oil filter. WTF Toyota, can't just use a simple spin on like the rest? Just goes to show anybody can kill any car, even mechanics.
You and Hoovie have the sketchiest sponsors.
Wizard deserves the money. I just don't buy from any sponsors. I do my own research.
stopped watching hoobie several months ago, annoying used car salesman provides no value for me
@@moonshinefuel He starts annoying me a bit too lately. He always gives these car salesman speeches on every car he shows. It is always some superlative of something, no matter how crappy the vehicle. Or the last of its kind. These days every car is the last of some category. And his daily talk channel also turned into a rumor mill channel. Most of their stories are poorly researched or not at all.
@@moonshinefuel I think a lot of people have stopped watching Hoovie judging by the much lower view counts he gets now on most of his videos. Doug Demuro's view counts are way down now too.
@@willydavidThat's his JOB. Messing around with crap box cars is how he makes money!
Thanks for the info
I watch you're show every night ..keep up the good work you & miss wizzard..
And Hoovie was pumping a Genesis for 101K yesterday....
Lol
@@DavidNgo86watch Scotty Kilmer if you want a real opinion on genesis vs Lexus. Night and day. Genesis is disposable Dixie cup.
@@mongo64071 I drive Toyota.
Lots of u tubers were, and are.
So you finally realized that UA-camrs look at viewers as a monetary incentive and nothing else or do you need more proof?
I’m not so sure that the issues being described in this video are all that unusual for a vehicle with 120k miles. I mean cracked bushings, front suspension parts, leaky cv joints…would be expected. The vehicle is 12 years old, going on 13. Moral of the story…get rid of the vehicle before 100k miles
yet somehow my so-called 'unreliable' VW of the same age, with 160k miles and which spent its whole life on salted & potholed Chicago roads has none of those issues
It's common for most non-car people to switch before 100k miles anyways
Looks like I need to dump the Marquis. 30 years old and 500,000 miles. Well past its sell-by date.
@@lvsqcslAll original.
@@MrOnlinmrineI totally agree that non car people on average ditch their payed off cars at 100k and get into another never ending cycle of car loans. While well unformed car guys like myself know which cars are worth buying new or used and we can keep them on the road far longer. My oldest car is a 95 Acura Integra that I bought used with 100k miles in 2001. I literally raced that car hard in my youth. Yet It is still running well with 276k miles. The only major repair it has needed was a head gasket at 200k miles. Other than that I have kept up with replacing worn suspension bushings and leaking gaskets over the years.
Even after all that I have spent less than the price of a new Hyundai.
When my little baby was riding in the car seats, we were in tanks, 80s vintage Delta 88s, 98 Regency, Custom Cruiser. Weight and safety. Then a custom conversion van.
I'm in Australia, I bought an I30 new in 2008, diesel-powered manual transmission. I've owned more than 180 cars in my lifetime, the I30 was one of the best cars I've ever owned. It has over 500k kilometers on it, zero issues. No matter how you drive it, it only uses a little over 3 litres of diesel to go 100 kilometers. I just bought my wife a new diesel Tucson. I hope it's half the car of my I30.
Danielson should have taken this Hyundai to a trusted local mechanic first to do a Pre Purchase Inspection and advice.
Not a fan of hundai but most of what you noted is nitpicking or maintenance
Awwe the Misses is the cutest thing. I love to see her in your videos Mr Wizard. Keep up the good work
When I was shopping for my next vehicle a month ago, I had a friend ask me "Why aren't you considering a Hyundai or Kia?" This is why.
Wow, -5°F⁉️ Must be some very volatile weather in Kansas this month 🙃
_I know this is a delayed video_ 😎
haha I have a 2007 chrysler 300c. I have double the list of things I have replaced. Did it all myself and the parts still cost a lot. My car has almost half the mileage and all the wear and tear stuff went on me years ago. If my car looked as mint as that underneath I would do it all again. The underside of my car is all rust, like swiss cheese levels. On the lift that Hyundai looks better than the underside of my car did 10 years ago. You guys are so lucky!!!
Car wizard. Heard about the bad weather in Halsted last night
Hope you and the family are all well. 👍
Minus 5 degrees outside and it says that the video was just released 5-19-2024, an hour ago or 1437 my time (military time). Danielson, you are very funny describing the suspension noise as a noisy mattress and making the sound that you did.
My 1999 Honda Accord has the original CV boots, no tears, cracks or leaks. Only had to replace the right front wheel bearing and the front sway bar bushings. I love this car.
ITS A 12 YR OLD CAR STP COMPLAINNG FFS. if u found a lower mileage version u may not have had a lot of those issues
I have a 21 year old GMC Yukon XL Denali with 341k mi and I bought it brand new. Still has the original engine never had any metal inside replaced or the head gaskets just seals and little things. All 8 Bosch fuel injectors and coils are also all original just the spark plugs and plug wires, has had 1 alternator and 2 water pumps and 1 radiator. Original transmission with only fluid and filters every 80k, original front and rear differential and transfer case with nothing replaced just fluid, original power steering pump and original AC compressor and I haven't had to have the dash ripped out either to fix the AC coil and all of the electronics still work. sunroof still works doors work fine, heated seats, the power folding mirrors and the LEDs and even all 4 factory Delphi shock absorbers are original, never needed to replace a single shock. The abs system has never had an issue. Still has the original fuel pump just the charcoal canister and the vent have been replaced with lots of fuel filters. If this heap of shit Hyundai is already having this many problems with only just 12 years and only just 130k it should be scrapped.
in good shape for the age, previous owner probably took csr of it. The new Hyundias dont seem to last ten years
@@elihernandez330 yukon xl parts are cheap like hyundai too? all the parts he mentioned are dirt cheap, and hes a mechanic ffs he should have identified most of those issues upon checkup before he bought it. all cars even yukon will be trash if previous owner didnt take care of it, your experience doesnt make all yukon parts last that long, you need some logic classes
@@jamesortega8681 You do know parts are marked up and mechanic labor hours aren't cheap even if it's just 1 hour. That gets expensive real fast. And if the mechanic who fixes it at no markup and quickly hates it imagine how the customer would feel.
@@elihernandez330 most of the issues you can do it yourself. the yukon parts you mentioned are expensive you its the same thing you still shelled out money for the repairs you needed to make on that yukon... not all hyundai sta fes are bad, that mechanic just sucks he doesnt even know how to look for a good second hand car is the issue not the brand or model itself
What a hit piece. I have a 2017 Santa Fe 3.3 GDI. 80K miles. No issues. I change oil (synthetic) every 5k miles. Consumption is less than a quart in 5000 miles. At 75k I replaced the original tires and brakes.
Come on now, those are normal wear items especially in rural areas. Disappointed in you guys.
i like the part about 1000s for replacement speakers when 100 dollars at walmart will buy a nice upgrade
My 02 Accord had failed hood struts after 10 years too. So what. Do you think Honda makes their hood struts?
Come on now, these aren’t normal wear items bro. My 16 year old Buick is still running original suspension components and it has 220k miles on it (100k of city driving), still drives perfectly fine, no issues. Hood struts all work, all the speakers work, no leaks in anything, etc. Not to mention I live in the rust belt too.
@@Billie-qb2usthese items longevity really depend on the owner.
And if you’re buying a used hyundai you have to expect the previous owner did not baby the thing.
I had to rent a 2020 Kia Sportage, was told all maintenance had been done.
I had the car four weeks, the oil light or check engine light for oil change NEVER CAME ON.
I started noticing the mileage range going down as i filled up. When it went from 429 to 390. I checked the oil, bone dry.
Three quarters later 430, two days later 409. Until i returned seven quarts, i told the Rental Company when i turned it in.
I hope they paid you back
@abigalanderson7494
The Rental Service in question is charging people for not bringing back Tesla with full charge!!
I'm glad i was able to jump ship!!!
We had the 2012 year Santa Fe, V-6 top of the line trim, no problems. Sold it to my brother who drove it to 145k miles, no problem, except had the CV joints replaced. Other than that, just regular maintenance. Even the AC still works perfectly. Still runs well and he uses it for business deliveries all over the state.
Hello Mr. & Mrs. Wizard can you guys make a video on cars and trucks to possibly buy on a shoe string budget ?
Haha this is a joke. Hood struts is to difficult to fix. STAY AWAY FROM THIS "MECHANIC"
also thousands for speaker replacement when under 100 bucks at walmart would be an upgrade for the factory speakers
Mom bought a '10 Santa Fe GLS brand new. Put over 200k miles on it. Engine and transmission are flawless.
You can have 2 back to back cars going down the line....one is perfect and the other is a turd.
One person's "flawless" can be another's nightmare.
@@darrellsaunders4267 That's true I had the V6 santa fe and it was a flawless car at 180k. All it had was routine maintenance done to it. I can't speak on the 4cyl but the 6 is solid. It's a goofy looking shape but it's a great driving vehicle for it's size.
You could have 20 of the same exact cars made on the same shift…and 12 of them could be crap. Let’s also consider that hyundais are notorious for burning oil, and we know that nobody checks their oil anymore. You also see every other person out there, speed-racing down the road at high RPM’s…and hyundai/Kia/VW/ect. engines don’t like high RPM’s. A lot of things play into a car being nothing but problems, and personal driving habits have everything to do with it.
@@darrellsaunders4267…my brother used to work on the assembly line at a Honda plant in Columbus, and he said he could tell which vehicles would be “problematic”. He said they made flawless cars sometimes, and sometimes it went the wrong direction.
I have a 2017 3.3 GDI with 96k miles. 5k oil change intervals. Only major stuff I’ve had to do is all rotors. Of course the tires. Bought it CPO with 42k in 2020, dunno if the battery is the original one but have not had to replace it. No rust since I wash it during the winter and do the underbody well.
Edit, at 50k I did take it in to service. Under warranty got the oil pressure switched replaced.
Dad's GDI had a wicked knock but ran good other than hesitation and blue smoke on hard accel. Found extreme major thrust surface wear on cyl 3 and the intake manifold full of water and oil. New complete engine after a year has no knock but blue smoke on hard accel again. Havent been able to scope it yet, might just take the intake off and pour out what I believe is there again.
Must be cold in Newton today....five below.....
I was wondering if they shot this in the winter as a back up video to keep up with the upload schedule
Around January 18th
Correct, may 19, late spring, early summer. Kansas never go to near freezing. This video must shot during deep winter.
Shoulda bought an eight generation Buick Lesabre.
Hey you might want a new car some day and your old one will never fail
My wife's 2021 Palisade Calligraphy has been absolutely amazing! My daughter had a 2009 Genesis with a 4.8L V-8, also was amazing until someone crashed into it and totaled it. We must have been lucky.
290k kms on 2010 Santa Fe. Had all the front end work done as mentioned. Intake manifold runner control last year. Car still runs fine. Has paid for itself. Rust spray every year. No rust at all. Canada
All wear items...
Yup. This is a click-bait vid and I fell for it. Seems that Wizard recently got his diploma from the Scotty Kilmer School of Click-Bait Vids
My mom bought a 2011 Hyundai Santa Fe new. It now has 72,000 miles. Oil change every 5k miles or less. No issues. Maybe she’s an exception.
That’s the key honestly 5,000 mile oil changes on full synthetic & 20,000 mile transmission fluid changes nothing less
Update us when the vehicle reaches 110-120 K's
Also have the your 30,60,90K service done which includes your fuel service every 30K miles. That is a must have for every Hyundai and Kia engine and change the spark plugs at 100K. No exceptions on that one either.
Definitely burning oil by now check every 1k miles
That’s very low km so not an exception
My mother has a 17' Tuscon GDI and it burns a quart of oil every three thousand miles, should I start hounding the dealer about it since its still under the ten year 100k mile warranty or is it a lost cause? Any help is appreciated.
Hey car wizard, can you do an episode on car brands you would recommend, in order from best to worse?
I would like to add that in hot and difficult Indian conditions , this generation diesel sante fe is regarded as a very reliable vehicle with many examples easily doing over 300,000 kms with just regular maintenance.
Key word: diesel.
We don’t get those here.
@@donovanchilton5817The Kappa engines are better
In Europe the 2.0 and 1.7 diesel engines are rock solid. My sister has a Hyundai IX35 2.0 CRDI 184hp fully loaded and it’s amazing. Zero problems with DPF or engine.
My daughter had been driving for about a year. As she went to pull out of a parking lot, she looked left and then right. As she eased out, she checked left again and saw a car she had not noticed before. She put a small crease down the side of that car with her front bumper. The car was a new police car the officer had just picked up that morning. She now double checks both ways before pulling out of a parking lot.
I have a 2011 Hyundai Santa Fe I bought it used 5 years ago I have no problems till recently I replaced the water pump and thermostat it’s not showing hot on the gage but it is running reallly hot can’t figure what else it could be. It’s not pulling any coolant from Radiator but it is pulling from overflow tank HELP
He gets the replacement parts using the Wizzards discount, he does all the work. I mean at the end of the day, no biggie.
imagine a mechanic not identifying the issues when he bought the car for himself lmao
I have a '13 Santa Fe with 2.2 Diesel CRDI which I use for work as a contractor. Now with 180k kms. Very reliable car. Running strong. Not much issues.
The new cars are much better! Our 2020 Sante Fe has been trouble free for 50,000 miles so far.
I am on my second Santa Fe. Use for daily driver. Upgraded to modern electronics in 2017. No issues. Not at all worried about engine as it’s now warrantied for life on my model.
Here in Europe Hyundai doesnt have the same issue that you seems to have in US. Perhaps its the US factory workers that are sloppy in the quality.
Had a Accent, Elantra and now my i30 number 2, only with regular services and normal parts that needs to be changed due to age and milage.
And both Kia and Hyundai have long varanty without any KM limitation.
From what I recall the Theta II engine was developed with Chrysler. That in itself should have been a big red flag. Once Chrysler gets involved, quality falls to shit. Just ask Mercedes.
There was nothing too bad wrong with this vehicle- 124000 miles you should expect some wear and tear. My wife and I have owned 2 Kia Optimas from new and put over 200000 miles on them both. Sold them still in good running condition. My brother in law has a Hyundai Santa Fe with 280000 miles on it still going strong.
Don't be afraid to buy these vehicles, they are fine if maintained.
Mazda? No-not for me. Daughter has one of their SUV's. Nothing but problems and uncomfortable too.
I’ve got a 2008 Highlander with 140,000 miles on it and I’ve only had to do tires, brakes, serpentine belt , oil cooler hoses and a water pump. And oh yeah, windshield wiper blades..
My mom had a 2009 Santa Fe bought new when it had around 30 miles on it. She never really had issues with it for long time. We did have to get new engine coils and replace those in like 2015 or so. Now the car did have a vapor lock issue after getting fuel and car refused to start for a bit started in like late 2019 and before getting fixed someone hit and damaged the car in the parking lot in 2020. Overall decent car lasted 11 years or so.
You fail to mention most Toyotas Hondas with 120 miles are 2x the price of this Hyundai
True, and replacement parts for Toyotas are outrageous. $1,800 fora sliding door latch on a Toyota sienna.
You get what you pay for…
@@TexasVexesthis is true why complain about all the issues he didn’t even say how much he paid probably less then 10k
I’ll pay to avoid this crap
@@michaelwells203That's definitely not the norm
Can someone explain to me how an actual real life mechanic buys a car before giving it an inspection? I feel like some of these issues could have been spotted ahead of time, no?
the one i had lasted 9 months before i shipped it, broken driver seat, bad cv, and killed my back. got me a mopar and i'm happy now.
I have had a Kia Sorento and a Hyundai Santa Fe. Both had GDI engines. Neither was ever in the shop for anything but regular preventive maintenance maintenance. Zero repairs. I now have a Acura RDX. Hope it will be as good a car.
Damn, I was going to buy one. Glad I saw this.
From my experience they're solid cars.
V6 Santa Fe is a solid choice from 2007-2011 as long as it still drives perfect and has no codes or check engine light.
You should go ahead and buy it, don't believe everything you hear
Also even more important is what the price is. The prices right now are just crazy. I would not support buying a hyundai if you're paying book value. There has to be a big savings from choosing the better option from Toyota or Honda.
@@MarketingCoachKen I agree. I've seen the V6 one's keep going and going. Last one I saw had 200k on it and was still running like a top with no major issues, just basic maintenance. As long as things are taken care of when they should be, larger problems usually don't develop. I still see them on the road as well and for the price if you can get a really good deal, I personally don't think they are a bad choice either.
What kind of Kansas are you living in? it's summer
I caught that too, I’m guessing he recorded this a while back 😂
In Hoovie's latest vid, he mentioned Wiz was going on a cruise, so he probably had some vids stored for this reason.