1955, and this lift is a retrofit, you can see the old outlines of bricked up arches there, which says the original lift was either hydraulic or steam powered, or it was old enough to be horse powered instead, using a winch and pulleys to do lifting of a platform. Wonder just how many bolts and nuts have sat there untouched in nearly 70 years, and how many of the electrical connections have never been touched, though the selenium rectifiers definitely have let magic smoke out a while ago to get a silicon replacement bodged in there.Could have spent 10 minutes more and made it look nice.
My uncle worked for J&E Hall, in the factory in Dartford. He was a superb engineer and the company produced some great products. I remember their escalators here in Newcastle upon Tyne. Fantastic video as ever.
Scary part is testing those over travel switches, as if you test them with them connected correctly you will need new mains fuses for the lift. But a very nice lift, waiting for part 2, I did make a simple 3 floor model as apprenticeship test, because I wanted something a little more complex than a blinking light with a 555 driven off the power supply we made from near scratch. Only parts bought were the core and copper wire, and the electronic components. I added in extra parts to make it more useful, a battery charger, and better current limiting as well.
I love the sound of the motor! Thank you, United Litft Chanel, for the amazing visuals. Matt, your editing (and music selection) is empeccable, as always!
Another fantastic video with superb editing and explanation. I will subscribe to the United Lift Channel. Keep up the great video's. The Selenium rectifier had expired, and a pretty rough floating set up 35 Amp bridge rectifier is just dangling loose.
In 1970 I worked in an old warehouse that still had the original 1924 freight elevator that was still being used. I rode it up to the the second floor and back. Wooden gates, start and stop by pulling a rope to turn the switch (penthouse on roof?) on and off. Sides of the shaft were visible, a workman wrote his name and 1924 in the plaster on the wall of the shaft. Keep in mind this was before OSHA. It may not be there now. May have been converted to modern.
Dandy elevator and machine room! Excellent multi camera coverage. Interesting controller, an interlock up/and down akin to a phase reserve relay? As a seleenium rectifier was mentioned the most is DC thus the motor chock is a similar concept to the leveling field on the high rise DC machines? My 1st time seeing an 2:1 roped fright elevator was in N. CA it was a small cab.
When I was a kid, well, teenager, we used to have a shop. It was at the New Covent Garden market (the one in Vauxhall, not the touriest attraction near the Strand). As the shop was on the 1st floor, we had our own freight lift. Nothing particularly special, just an old Otis with the concertina door and a safety gate inside. It made some amazing noises though, and because my mum and dad thought they were not supposed to replace the builbs (either that or they thought the lights used a non standard fitting), the lights did not work, It was quite slow, and the ground floor of the building was at least 30 ft, so it took a while to travel between floors. It was quite atmospheric. Unfortunately, we eventually did have to replace the bulbs.
Two quality videos in quick succession! Wow! Matt, what lift out of all the lifts you filmed had the best character? My favorite is the otis at hilton park.
What are those weird things at 8:27? Great video, and part 2 is even better. Thanks! EDIT: Seems that they are the chokes. They look really creepy, like weird underwater creatures. I thought chokes just looked like transformers.
Yes, those are the chokes. I didn't know that at the time of editing and yes, they look really creepy! Imagine opening a dark cupboard and seeing them in the corner!
If this is a two-floor lift, why does it need up and down buttons? If you are at the ground floor you can only want to go up, and if you are on the first floor you can only want to go down. So you just need one call button. I must be missing something, please explain. (anybody!) Thanks.
4:41 : does somebody know what is this square wave / resistor symbol means on the schematic ? (as seen across BK / TDL / TA). Usually this symbol is for heating elements. 4:55 : what is that component, a resistor ? a capacitor ? whatever it is, it's a big one :D
4:55 I believe that's the choke, but I'm not 100% sure. Chokes are normally mounted alongside the cabinet, as they are quite large. 4:41 These are resistors. The ones across TA and TDL prevent the capacitor being connected directly to the supply, so they charge up under a resistor, and also prevent them discharging instantly, hence a timer is produced. The one directly across BK I believe is to absorb the spike that will feed-back from the brake when it's depowered.
Hi, love your videos. Do you know what happened to Mrphill100? His channel has vanished and it had loads of videos of my childhood stomping grounds. Hope he's OK. Cheers. Dudleyblokerave.
Unfortunately, the person you mentioned is not welcome on my channel. Here are some of the kids he used to endanger on his lift surfing adventures: ua-cam.com/video/43YNUHJ4UV8/v-deo.html Please also see: ua-cam.com/video/G49HsVD0gcw/v-deo.html Thank you.
Wow, what a treat. I'll take an old lift over a new one any day.
1955, and this lift is a retrofit, you can see the old outlines of bricked up arches there, which says the original lift was either hydraulic or steam powered, or it was old enough to be horse powered instead, using a winch and pulleys to do lifting of a platform.
Wonder just how many bolts and nuts have sat there untouched in nearly 70 years, and how many of the electrical connections have never been touched, though the selenium rectifiers definitely have let magic smoke out a while ago to get a silicon replacement bodged in there.Could have spent 10 minutes more and made it look nice.
Yes, I did notice this also. Looks like there is a lot of history to this building.
Any old lift made before the 1960s is rare. Very rare. Must be epic to ride that!
My uncle worked for J&E Hall, in the factory in Dartford. He was a superb engineer and the company produced some great products. I remember their escalators here in Newcastle upon Tyne. Fantastic video as ever.
Thank you very much! Yes, old school electrics here!
Scary part is testing those over travel switches, as if you test them with them connected correctly you will need new mains fuses for the lift. But a very nice lift, waiting for part 2, I did make a simple 3 floor model as apprenticeship test, because I wanted something a little more complex than a blinking light with a 555 driven off the power supply we made from near scratch. Only parts bought were the core and copper wire, and the electronic components. I added in extra parts to make it more useful, a battery charger, and better current limiting as well.
Great made me remember 50 year old work. I had worked on these lifts .How strong was all parts . Now a days every thing is like paper.
surely not *paper* level, otherwise elevators would be failing left and right
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I love the sound of the motor! Thank you, United Litft Chanel, for the amazing visuals. Matt, your editing (and music selection) is empeccable, as always!
Wunderbar, diese alte solide Technik zu sehen.
Another fantastic video with superb editing and explanation. I will subscribe to the United Lift Channel. Keep up the great video's. The Selenium rectifier had expired, and a pretty rough floating set up 35 Amp bridge rectifier is just dangling loose.
This is a EPIC elevator. That motor is epic as well
Another awesome video by... This time a partnership between two channels. Awesome. But the editing is great as usual! Awesome job as usual!
Nice collab, amazing footage and editing as always.
Brilliant. Looking forward to part 2!
In 1970 I worked in an old warehouse that still had the original 1924 freight elevator that was still being used. I rode it up to the the second floor and back. Wooden gates, start and stop by pulling a rope to turn the switch (penthouse on roof?) on and off. Sides of the shaft were visible, a workman wrote his name and 1924 in the plaster on the wall of the shaft. Keep in mind this was before OSHA. It may not be there now. May have been converted to modern.
Awesome old lift! The motor sounds so good. Good work as always Matt!
Thanks very much crocoland!
Dandy elevator and machine room! Excellent multi camera coverage. Interesting controller, an interlock up/and down akin to a phase reserve relay? As a seleenium rectifier was mentioned the most is DC thus the motor chock is a similar concept to the leveling field on the high rise DC machines? My 1st time seeing an 2:1 roped fright elevator was in N. CA it was a small cab.
NEW MRMATTANDMRCHAY VIDEO!!!
too cool. excellent video. thank you kind strangers!
This old beauty looks well maintained.
When I was a kid, well, teenager, we used to have a shop. It was at the New Covent Garden market (the one in Vauxhall, not the touriest attraction near the Strand). As the shop was on the 1st floor, we had our own freight lift. Nothing particularly special, just an old Otis with the concertina door and a safety gate inside.
It made some amazing noises though, and because my mum and dad thought they were not supposed to replace the builbs (either that or they thought the lights used a non standard fitting), the lights did not work, It was quite slow, and the ground floor of the building was at least 30 ft, so it took a while to travel between floors. It was quite atmospheric.
Unfortunately, we eventually did have to replace the bulbs.
Two quality videos in quick succession! Wow! Matt, what lift out of all the lifts you filmed had the best character? My favorite is the otis at hilton park.
awesome video
Nice video matt keep up the good worrk, always quality not quantity!
thanks!
Super cool.
Very Nice old Lift. J&E Hall is a name you don't hear very often nowadays.
Yes, and especially ones that are still working.
I like how the electrical schematic looks like PLC ladder logic
Hey guys Mr Matt upload again i like watch your video man
thank you!
What are those weird things at 8:27? Great video, and part 2 is even better. Thanks! EDIT: Seems that they are the chokes. They look really creepy, like weird underwater creatures. I thought chokes just looked like transformers.
Yes, those are the chokes. I didn't know that at the time of editing and yes, they look really creepy! Imagine opening a dark cupboard and seeing them in the corner!
So interesting and Epic!
Seeing the lock, I had hoped for a LockPickingLawyer moment, but not even a rake...
Is that an old fire system heat detector to the right of the bell @ 04:18 ? wonder If its still in use !
Probably still connected to the lift bell......
That's not a heat detector, it's a switch attached to the emergency car brakes. If the car brakes were to apply the switch shuts the lift down.
12:44: What is that sensor(?) mounted on the wall, on the bottom left. Identified by that small wheel used for?
Extra overtravel for the top floor maybe? Triggered by something on the bottom of the cart.
@@mrfrenzy. The cart seems too short to not have passed it fully by 12:52 (7 seconds after)
@brunoais that's correct. The cart should only pass this sensor if everything else fails, it would trip just before the cart hits top of shaft.
great video man. Older is better
Mrmattandmrchay, A lift company had sent me a panel with DMG buttons, indicator and a hidden legend, How do I wire it to 12v?
If this is a two-floor lift, why does it need up and down buttons? If you are at the ground floor you can only want to go up, and if you are on the first floor you can only want to go down. So you just need one call button. I must be missing something, please explain. (anybody!) Thanks.
4:41 : does somebody know what is this square wave / resistor symbol means on the schematic ? (as seen across BK / TDL / TA). Usually this symbol is for heating elements.
4:55 : what is that component, a resistor ? a capacitor ? whatever it is, it's a big one :D
4:55 I believe that's the choke, but I'm not 100% sure. Chokes are normally mounted alongside the cabinet, as they are quite large.
4:41 These are resistors. The ones across TA and TDL prevent the capacitor being connected directly to the supply, so they charge up under a resistor, and also prevent them discharging instantly, hence a timer is produced. The one directly across BK I believe is to absorb the spike that will feed-back from the brake when it's depowered.
You see the "Chokes" if that is what they are called here 8:26.
Hi, love your videos.
Do you know what happened to Mrphill100?
His channel has vanished and it had loads of videos of my childhood stomping grounds.
Hope he's OK.
Cheers.
Dudleyblokerave.
Overbuilt to last forever.
So we can create more elevator videos
And beno
Unfortunately, the person you mentioned is not welcome on my channel. Here are some of the kids he used to endanger on his lift surfing adventures: ua-cam.com/video/43YNUHJ4UV8/v-deo.html Please also see: ua-cam.com/video/G49HsVD0gcw/v-deo.html Thank you.
This stuff is great, but when I take away scrap from mods, it all goes in the garbage :( I have a diploma in electronics
have you noticed that people did not need anything such things before lately.
5:41 And I'm out.
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id hardly call it a good lift its fricken ancient
A lot of these old lifts are still good. They just need sensible maintenance. The same can be said of any new equipment.