Appreciate your videos! Two pieces of software I love and highly recommend: SIGMIRA - lot of options for visualization and decoding of signals ARTEMIS by AresValley - Extensiv signal database to better recognize different patterns and which systems generate them, a ton of examples how signals show up in waterfall and also audio examples!
This is the first I heard of the MSI2500. It's perfect for the price, dynamic range, frequency range, number of filtered bands, and versatility. Plus it's cheaper than the RTL-SDR that I just bought.
Supposedly it’s a clone of the RSP1, i was surprised too, but after buying one, i can confirm it’s a 100% upgrade from the rtl-sdr, aaaaaand it’s cheaper!
@@howforless There are also some smaller RSP1 clones that use a single SMA, and have switches on the board to choose the bandpass filter. I bought one last week, and am having fun with it.
Hi John, note that I'm not using this with a Raspberry Pi, just using CubicSDR downloaded on a MacBook for now. I do want to try it on the Pi with a touch screen LCD, which was why I thought this video would be helpful.
@@BrightBlueJim, thanks. I'm not a software guy, so I know little about what works with what. I'll try my module with other hardware and apps. After pricing the Raspberry Pi's that are available now I was afraid I was just going to have to wait till production had ramped up beyond demand again in a year or 2. Unfortunately, I've finally deduced that my new SDR module is defective, and I was getting the run-around from the seller, so I've decided to order one from a different vendor and also try to repair this one.
I have been slowly getting interested in SDR due to the obvious crossover with my other hobby of Radio Control flight and various long range control and video solutions. I have an old rasp pi and a dongle in the mail, I will def check these images out. Thank you for the video and the effort put into presenting all this info. I appreciate it a lot!
I have an RSP1a and run uno I have found its good enough for 99% of anything I would ever need it for, I listen to everything below 30Mhz, all ham bands above that up into the 900s mhz, I also have a few other SDR dongles I have played with and can say everything else is junk, I will play with a Pi or a card soon .....
Andreas, i love your videos! I've seen the price for the SpartanV6...wow, so expensive (nothing compare to a professional ASA, but for me is expensive a lot)! Thank you so much!
That’s a great idea. It was a pain to set up the software / drivers based on a Windows PC. Some stuff I couldn’t even get to work because it wouldn’t compile etc. This might help me get back into SDR.
I'm finishing-up my eighth homebuilt airplane, which sounds like a lot except that's over 50 years of building. This new one is a Quickie Q1 -- a VERY SMALL canard design. The entire instrument panel is an iPad that even controls an autopilot. But now I am interested in SDRs and wonder if I can use them to make aviation (118.000 to 136.975 MHz) transceivers? Of course I CAN, but should I? It's just AM modulation and I am properly licensed with an FCC Class 1 license (I was chief engineer at a commercial radio station at age 17) and the little plane has a radio license, too. I'm not a licensed radio MANUFACTURER, but surely these SDRs fit the technical requirements, so why not do it?
1. Nice little plane, and an interesting setup. I also had an experimental canard in mind (I even went for a test flight in Florida). But it was a too big project for me. So I admire your work! 2. Most modern radios are based on SDR technology. This might not apply to aviation because, as I remember, this technology mostly was "proven" and therefore old. 3. You probably could build an SDR transceiver. But AFAIK you are not allowed to use it. The right to build is only for licensed HAM operators, and only in the HAM bands. DIY receivers are ok in most countries.
_Andreas to the rescue._ In future I'll refer ham newbies to your *Great Intro* . (anyway.better loaning my pi than fixing (yet) another _"Experimented On"_ WinPC) Btw: The usual chinese sources also sell _ "filters only diy sets"_ (...very useful with a better antenna on cheap rtl (imho))
I Iuse RTL:SDR V3 With USB Thats Like A Coax Cable, Its Trabnsparrent And You Can See The Mesh Like Wires Around It And I USe That, Friend Who Dumpster Dives Gave It To Me, Im So Thankful To Him :)
What I would like to see is someone or a group of individuals come up with a SDR based service monitor for the average ham operator. Basic operations would include frequency and deviation of transmitters testing as well as receiver sensitivity testing. Basics of a service monitor. Now there could be other specialized add ons such as decoding and encoding for digital modes (ie D Star, DMR, P25 etc.) pocsag encode and decode. Instead of R Pi based one could use some of the surplus mini computers available on e Bay. They are more powerful and might be able to handle multiple functions at one time plus it would have to have the capabilities of a true service monitor to handle ALL frequencies from VLF to at least 1 GHz.
Even with my €900k lab I still love using the rtl sdr( yes got waaay more powerful toys( no cant use these if you got only ham license). Its simple it works, though my antennas 100% dont fit in a cuppboard unless I can get a 20m cuppboard😅
Espressobin should have more IO bandwith than a Pi and used to cost about $70 for the board without a 12v barrel jack(5 to 10 USD) and a case /w heatsink another $10... so like $100 for a usable setup.
I agree. As soon as you leave the Raspberry ecosystem you get much more choice. But you lose the community support as well as many projects. I am just tinkering with a used thin client PC and proxmox ;-)
@@HB9BLA I disagree, I mean you are right that there is a kind of safety net when going with something well traveled. I just don't think it matters to the degree ppl might imagine. I would guess the superior IO more than makes up for the tradeoff of this device not being as popular.
I was hoping for a preconfigured OS that I can put on a PI that is remote and connect using a web front end. This is because I can put it up high and away from noise. I currently use sdr sharp and it would be good to still use that but it seems far too time consuming to set all of that up. VNC isn't really very good especially over wifi for realtime listening - it takes half of the PI just to stream the VNC desktop.
There is a raspberry-websdr github projekt that does that, providing a webinterface from which you can listen an controll, I set it up a couple of years ago and it worked well. Using the flash-and-go solution showed here, I would expect not too much of headache setting it up since the 'bad stuff' like drivers and such comes pre-compiled/pre-installed.
Indeed, this is a marvelous device! I will not cover it in a review because it is too expensive for a hobby. But it might appear on the channel as a tool.
Hello Andreas, can you check one thing for me please. Switching on the Rpi, do you notice the increased noise on the other radio, let say 145 MHz? I am running the RPi 3b+ with the openwebrx sw but powering the Rpi increase the noise on my other packet radio up to 59+20dB. The cause is not the switching power supply but the RPi. Do you have the same experience there? Thanks...
Very nice video again!! 👍👍 Thanks Aber ganz blöde Frage: Sie kennen sich ja ziemlich gut aus...wie kann ich mich dem Thema microwave cavity geometry nähern? Würde gerne die Resonanzfrequenz ua von "komischen" Formen, kein normaler Waveguide, bestimmen. Have a nice Week
Hi there, I hope someone see this. I am doing the process for the rpi 5, in the git the image says it has rpi 5 support but when I go burn the image to the sd card I get “MBR DOES NOT HAVE A VALID SIGNATURE”. Does anyone recognize or know how to fix this?
Did you wait more than one second? The display below the line IS a waterfall display. As with all waterfall displays, it can't show any history until it has some.
@@qwaqwa1960 A waterfall display is a spectrogram with history. That is all. It shows the spectrum over time. The fact that some people use this term for other purposes does not alter the fact.
wow very nice SDR Raspberry Pi video. I would like to use this information in putting together a 1420 MHz radio telescope and use the: Orange Pi 800 Six-Core 64 Bit 4GB RAM Dual Band WiFi Bluetooth 5.0 All-in-One Keyboard Computer Kit with 64GB EMMC, Run Android, OS, Manjaro, Ubuntu, Debian (Pi800+TypeC 5V4A Supply). I think it should do the job? There just is not very much Orange Pi information that I can find, such as installing OpenCV on an Orange Pi system. 😎 Thank you so much.
I do not know these products. The more you go away from mainstream, the more you are on your own. On my second channel, I showed another possibility: Used Thin client PCs from eBay. They are much stronger than the Raspberries at the same price... And they are mainstream.
Has anyone else found a similar video but takes it bid slower including every single step with a how to. Do I need to use the Pi4 keyboard in the video or can any USB keyboard with mouse work?
1. I do not know of another video. Maybe stopping the video from time to time helps. 2. You should be able to use any USB keyboard for the Pi (I often use a standard Logitech wireless one)
@@HB9BLA Thanks for your reply. This is a good video for those that are already familiar with using a Raspberry Pi and a SDR but might be advanced for someone with no experience with a Pi and a SDR. I have played with a cheap SDR on my Laptop and have that working but would need a slightly more basic video to use a SDR with a Raspberry Pi. I would like to try the board with the multiple inputs on my laptop assuming it is already available as a choice for plug and play to see if reception is any better.
Swiss distortion? I would dispute that but women on dating apps are using filters that make them look 15 🤔 I guess I’m going to have to take your word for it.
0:20 I BBought The One At The Bottom RIght, Turned Out TTo be A Scam Ebaay Seller. Lost My Money :( And Im DIRT POOR ! It Was Quarter Of My Months Pay !
@@ScottRipley How about "The best off the Seven Trees" dating from the Civil War. This was the message that the new recruits became when the were sent to war. Because they had to cross a Hill with 7 trees. Many of our customs come from the military. Arie pe1krx
These Swiss distortions are good vibrations to my ear.
:-)) Thank you!
Great video Andreas! A nice update on what's currently available, thanks to the effort of these fine SDR fellows!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Appreciate your videos!
Two pieces of software I love and highly recommend:
SIGMIRA - lot of options for visualization and decoding of signals
ARTEMIS by AresValley - Extensiv signal database to better recognize different patterns and which systems generate them, a ton of examples how signals show up in waterfall and also audio examples!
Artremis is amazing, thank you for the hint!
@Richard: You see, not only me read the comments ;-) I agree with Vojislav and I will have a look at Artemis
This is the first I heard of the MSI2500. It's perfect for the price, dynamic range, frequency range, number of filtered bands, and versatility. Plus it's cheaper than the RTL-SDR that I just bought.
Supposedly it’s a clone of the RSP1, i was surprised too, but after buying one, i can confirm it’s a 100% upgrade from the rtl-sdr, aaaaaand it’s cheaper!
@@howforless There are also some smaller RSP1 clones that use a single SMA, and have switches on the board to choose the bandpass filter. I bought one last week, and am having fun with it.
Hi John, note that I'm not using this with a Raspberry Pi, just using CubicSDR downloaded on a MacBook for now. I do want to try it on the Pi with a touch screen LCD, which was why I thought this video would be helpful.
@@BrightBlueJim, thanks. I'm not a software guy, so I know little about what works with what. I'll try my module with other hardware and apps.
After pricing the Raspberry Pi's that are available now I was afraid I was just going to have to wait till production had ramped up beyond demand again in a year or 2. Unfortunately, I've finally deduced that my new SDR module is defective, and I was getting the run-around from the seller, so I've decided to order one from a different vendor and also try to repair this one.
@@johnwest7993 Happy hacking!
I have been slowly getting interested in SDR due to the obvious crossover with my other hobby of Radio Control flight and various long range control and video solutions. I have an old rasp pi and a dongle in the mail, I will def check these images out. Thank you for the video and the effort put into presenting all this info. I appreciate it a lot!
Good luck!
What have you found out about mailing and SDR integration?
As a wireless enthusiasts, this SDR series will have all my attention 👍
Cool!
Dude, didn't know you had this Chanel. I've been missing out.
I am not as active on this one.
I have an RSP1a and run uno I have found its good enough for 99% of anything I would ever need it for, I listen to everything below 30Mhz, all ham bands above that up into the 900s mhz, I also have a few other SDR dongles I have played with and can say everything else is junk, I will play with a Pi or a card soon .....
I agree. The RSPs are good products.
Lustig, genau die Steckeranpassung auf den blauen RTL-SDR will ich in Kürze machen.
Ist nicht schwierig. Habe alle umgebaut.
Windows is not a problem anymore, WSL2 works great now 👍🏻
Good to know!
i always learn new things from the strange Swiss distortion!
:-)
It was a very informative and helpful video.
Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
73 to you too. Love your video!
Thank you!
Andreas, i love your videos! I've seen the price for the SpartanV6...wow, so expensive (nothing compare to a professional ASA, but for me is expensive a lot)! Thank you so much!
For me it is also too expensive. It was given to my channel to experiment with...
Oh man, thanks for the great video! the familiar “Swiss Distortion” explains wonderful lectures! Like your other channel so much. 73 DE BA4QFU
Don't forget the HamPi distro which has numerous SDR packages. soapy, cubic, ... already installed. And sstv, GNU radio etc.
Thank you for the tip. I was not aware that it also includes an SDR section.
That’s a great idea. It was a pain to set up the software / drivers based on a Windows PC. Some stuff I couldn’t even get to work because it wouldn’t compile etc. This might help me get back into SDR.
Let's hope! I agree it was a pain, not only on Windows
Another great video, Keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do!
I'm finishing-up my eighth homebuilt airplane, which sounds like a lot except that's over 50 years of building. This new one is a Quickie Q1 -- a VERY SMALL canard design. The entire instrument panel is an iPad that even controls an autopilot. But now I am interested in SDRs and wonder if I can use them to make aviation (118.000 to 136.975 MHz) transceivers? Of course I CAN, but should I? It's just AM modulation and I am properly licensed with an FCC Class 1 license (I was chief engineer at a commercial radio station at age 17) and the little plane has a radio license, too. I'm not a licensed radio MANUFACTURER, but surely these SDRs fit the technical requirements, so why not do it?
1. Nice little plane, and an interesting setup. I also had an experimental canard in mind (I even went for a test flight in Florida). But it was a too big project for me. So I admire your work!
2. Most modern radios are based on SDR technology. This might not apply to aviation because, as I remember, this technology mostly was "proven" and therefore old.
3. You probably could build an SDR transceiver. But AFAIK you are not allowed to use it. The right to build is only for licensed HAM operators, and only in the HAM bands. DIY receivers are ok in most countries.
You rock man, thanks for the great videos
Glad you like them!
_Andreas to the rescue._ In future I'll refer ham newbies to your *Great Intro* .
(anyway.better loaning my pi than fixing (yet) another _"Experimented On"_ WinPC)
Btw: The usual chinese sources also sell _ "filters only diy sets"_ (...very useful with a better antenna on cheap rtl (imho))
Unfortunately, I did not find the products you mentioned. Maybe you send me a link via another way?
I Iuse RTL:SDR V3 With USB Thats Like A Coax Cable, Its Trabnsparrent And You Can See The Mesh Like Wires Around It And I USe That, Friend Who Dumpster Dives Gave It To Me, Im So Thankful To Him :)
Thanks, a very very interesting useful video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
What I would like to see is someone or a group of individuals come up with a SDR based service monitor for the average ham operator. Basic operations would include frequency and deviation of transmitters testing as well as receiver sensitivity testing. Basics of a service monitor. Now there could be other specialized add ons such as decoding and encoding for digital modes (ie D Star, DMR, P25 etc.) pocsag encode and decode. Instead of R Pi based one could use some of the surplus mini computers available on e Bay. They are more powerful and might be able to handle multiple functions at one time plus it would have to have the capabilities of a true service monitor to handle ALL frequencies from VLF to at least 1 GHz.
A big project! Most parts are probably available, but not assembled to such a monitor
@ unfortunately! Greetings from SV9 land in the Mediterranean!
Thanks!
Thank you for your support!
Even with my €900k lab I still love using the rtl sdr( yes got waaay more powerful toys( no cant use these if you got only ham license). Its simple it works, though my antennas 100% dont fit in a cuppboard unless I can get a 20m cuppboard😅
Indeed, they are very versatile. Also because of the software developed for them.
@HB9BLA true but also cause you can make software for them yourself ( not offering to teach how to but it is possible)
Espressobin should have more IO bandwith than a Pi and used to cost about $70 for the board without a 12v barrel jack(5 to 10 USD) and a case /w heatsink another $10... so like $100 for a usable setup.
I agree. As soon as you leave the Raspberry ecosystem you get much more choice. But you lose the community support as well as many projects.
I am just tinkering with a used thin client PC and proxmox ;-)
@@HB9BLA I disagree, I mean you are right that there is a kind of safety net when going with something well traveled. I just don't think it matters to the degree ppl might imagine. I would guess the superior IO more than makes up for the tradeoff of this device not being as popular.
Merci Andreas.
You are welcome!
Thanks for interesting video.
I will try to find my SDR dongle 'somewhere' 🙂, and refresh my memory.
73, PA2HO
Have fun!
I was hoping for a preconfigured OS that I can put on a PI that is remote and connect using a web front end. This is because I can put it up high and away from noise. I currently use sdr sharp and it would be good to still use that but it seems far too time consuming to set all of that up. VNC isn't really very good especially over wifi for realtime listening - it takes half of the PI just to stream the VNC desktop.
There is a raspberry-websdr github projekt that does that, providing a webinterface from which you can listen an controll, I set it up a couple of years ago and it worked well.
Using the flash-and-go solution showed here, I would expect not too much of headache setting it up since the 'bad stuff' like drivers and such comes pre-compiled/pre-installed.
For my QO-100 station, I use SDR console and a Pluto Plus on the roof connected via Ethernet. This should also work with a raspberry Pi.
Is there a version of Dragon OS for x86 ? You know, to get greater compute capability than a raspberrypi ?
Great video by the way.
nevermind. I found it
Great video.
What if we wanted to put raspberrypi in a remote area and transfer signal over internet or lan? Which one helps?
You can do it with all TCP/IP based systems
Nice / comprehensive coverage!
73
--VE6IU
Thank you!
Omg Andreas, can you please make video on the Spectran V6?! That is a nice piece of gear, wow, and there isn't much info on it on the internet.
Indeed, this is a marvelous device! I will not cover it in a review because it is too expensive for a hobby. But it might appear on the channel as a tool.
@@HB9BLA Bummer, I am not sure I understand your reasons, but it is your choice ofc.
@@Barc0d3 Its price tag is >10'000$
@@HB9BLA I am aware, thats why it would be such a nice opportunity to get a detailed Andreas style look at this tech thats out of reach for most :)
Hello Andreas, can you check one thing for me please. Switching on the Rpi, do you notice the increased noise on the other radio, let say 145 MHz? I am running the RPi 3b+ with the openwebrx sw but powering the Rpi increase the noise on my other packet radio up to 59+20dB. The cause is not the switching power supply but the RPi. Do you have the same experience there? Thanks...
I did not experience this fact. But my Pi4s are all in metal cases for passive cooling
@@HB9BLA Mine Rpi is all in aluminum heatsink and the noise start immediatelly... ok, thanks for the answer...
I would have never imagined that a PI can transmit data at this frequency just through a gpio.
It cannot. But digital signals have a lot of harmonics...
Very nice video again!! 👍👍 Thanks
Aber ganz blöde Frage: Sie kennen sich ja ziemlich gut aus...wie kann ich mich dem Thema microwave cavity geometry nähern? Würde gerne die Resonanzfrequenz ua von "komischen" Formen, kein normaler Waveguide, bestimmen.
Have a nice Week
Da muss ich passen. Das ist nicht mein Gebiet :-(
@@HB9BLA Danke für die 🐜- Wort und all ihre super lehrreichen Videos.
Schönen Sonntag, Gruß aus Bayern 🥨
Hi there, I hope someone see this.
I am doing the process for the rpi 5, in the git the image says it has rpi 5 support but when I go burn the image to the sd card I get “MBR DOES NOT HAVE A VALID SIGNATURE”.
Does anyone recognize or know how to fix this?
Does the distribution support receiving P25 or DMR?
I do not know because I never had the need
Now we just have to find some cheap Raspberry Pi
True!
2:35 That's NOT a waterfall! I know most people misuse the term now, but I wouldn't expect you to!
So you know more than me. I only know another diagram called "waterfall" from finance.
Did you wait more than one second? The display below the line IS a waterfall display. As with all waterfall displays, it can't show any history until it has some.
@@BrightBlueJim No it's not. It's a spectrogram. Your ignorance is showing...
@@qwaqwa1960 A waterfall display is a spectrogram with history. That is all. It shows the spectrum over time. The fact that some people use this term for other purposes does not alter the fact.
@@BrightBlueJim Wrong. You can't just steal an existing term and use it to describe a new thing-that already has a name!
do you need a license even if you are just passively listening?
No, not for listening
Do you need a license just to listen to the frequencies or just to Transmit u need a license ?
Usually, you need no license.
@@HB9BLA thank you I am thinking of making a raspberry pi fire scanner
wow very nice SDR Raspberry Pi video. I would like to use this information in putting together a 1420 MHz radio telescope and use the: Orange Pi 800 Six-Core 64 Bit 4GB RAM Dual Band WiFi Bluetooth 5.0 All-in-One Keyboard Computer Kit with 64GB EMMC, Run Android, OS, Manjaro, Ubuntu, Debian (Pi800+TypeC 5V4A Supply). I think it should do the job? There just is not very much Orange Pi information that I can find, such as installing OpenCV on an Orange Pi system. 😎 Thank you so much.
I do not know these products. The more you go away from mainstream, the more you are on your own. On my second channel, I showed another possibility: Used Thin client PCs from eBay. They are much stronger than the Raspberries at the same price... And they are mainstream.
@@HB9BLA Thank you so much and I will watch that video.
Has anyone else found a similar video but takes it bid slower including every single step with a how to.
Do I need to use the Pi4 keyboard in the video or can any USB keyboard with mouse work?
1. I do not know of another video. Maybe stopping the video from time to time helps.
2. You should be able to use any USB keyboard for the Pi (I often use a standard Logitech wireless one)
@@HB9BLA Thanks for your reply. This is a good video for those that are already familiar with using a Raspberry Pi and a SDR but might be advanced for someone with no experience with a Pi and a SDR.
I have played with a cheap SDR on my Laptop and have that working but would need a slightly more basic video to use a SDR with a Raspberry Pi. I would like
to try the board with the multiple inputs on my laptop assuming it is already available as a choice for plug and play to see if reception is any better.
Can you create a LORA and APRS connected Geiger counters?
I made a video about a Geiger counter on my primary channel and it is easy to add LoRa to this project.
I wanna build a jammer, is SDR suitable for me?
I do not cover jammers. They are illegal.
👍👍
Thank you!
nice ... but time has come to hack Starlink wave!
This is nothing for me ;-)
Any one else use an android and sdr touch or rf analyzer ? Dab radio and tv with a cheap sdr dongle too 👍
The RTL-SDR dongles initially were built for DAB and TV reception. Then clever guys extended their uses.
Swiss distortion? I would dispute that but women on dating apps are using filters that make them look 15 🤔 I guess I’m going to have to take your word for it.
:-)
0:20 I BBought The One At The Bottom RIght, Turned Out TTo be A Scam Ebaay Seller. Lost My Money :( And Im DIRT POOR ! It Was Quarter Of My Months Pay !
The worst thing ever are images. We need install info. Wih the price of pis we want them doing more than one rhing. Images are a thing of the past
If you are fluent in Linux, you are right.
But the Pi's are history. They don't make them anymore. Maybe a Debian image for Thin Clients ?
So you know more than me. According to my knowledge, they produce the Pis and they are available. Just in too little numbers :-(
Nice review. Probably time to get back to use my since 1985 never used license.
73 de HB9RZT
That is a very good idea!
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Welcome on the channel!
I see you stop with "73". Where does that 73 come from? pe1krx.
It is an old telegraph code meaning "Best regards". Still used today by amateur radio operators to sign off.
@@ScottRipley How about "The best off the Seven Trees" dating from the Civil War.
This was the message that the new recruits became when the were sent to war.
Because they had to cross a Hill with 7 trees.
Many of our customs come from the military. Arie pe1krx
yawn
??
Thanks!
73 de SM6LNJ
Thank you for your support! 73 de HB9BLA
Thanks!
Sorry for my late reply. Than you for your support!