Absolutely, there's a purity in a just cause that touches the deepest recesses of the heart, no fight is so satisfying, and no image so powerful as a noble man in a noble cause.
I remember this scene with fondness. A man wearing armor and yielding a sword, VS a gang. G'kar joins in the fight because he could tell at a glance it was a simple fight a good man vs bad men. Of all the political crap he has to deal with this one fight was a simple battle of good vs evil, and he picked the side of good. The old saying "Evil thrives when good men do nothing," G'kar saw a good man doing something and joined him.
Agreed, also forms part of G'Kars journey to enlightenment. I loved the freedom he felt fighting for what was right in the here and now in the dark where no one would know!
I would have dear loved to have seen Arthur and G'kar forming a new round table. The best and bravest of each race, serving as an example of honour and goodness in a dark galaxy. Even if it did turn out that Arthur was just a war veteran, mentally unbalanced by unimaginable guilt and trauma, it doesn't change the fact that he represented an ideal sorely lacking in the galaxy.
@@hagamapama problem with that is the rangers are tasked to watch offer no aid (until ordered by their own leaders), King Arthur saw wrong and wanted it stopped or righted...
I wonder, it it was then, after seeing Arthur, delusion or not, that G'kar began his introspection. To see such a noble, kind, and righteous visage, regardless of why it exists, would it not give you pause, make you evaluate your own notions. Perhaps G'kar took his "knighthood" even with its falsity and birth from delusion, inside himself, and this was the point in which he strived to become nobler than he was. I can see some of Arthur in his later speeches, in his one voice declaration, in his speech on freedom, mayhaps even in his forgiveness later on. Perhaps Arthur Pendragon did live on, in G'kar.
That G'kar jumped that railing and was willing to stand and fight beside a man he didn't know for cause of justice showed that he was already noble. He simply needed someone to remind him of it.
A year old, and I am only just now Like 69. G'Kar was always one of my favorite characters on B5. He started out a complete ass ( "A direct mating wold be preferred, but I don't know your pleasure threshhold") and became on the most noble characters on the show.
I think that in meeting him and learning about the knights of old and the code of chivalry and all that, it gave G'kar the sort of philosophical framework he'd perhaps been missing. Concepts and feelings he'd already had were given words and it all started to fit together, which is why G'kar took to it as rapidly as he did
He needed an outlet for his frustrations, and these fools nominated themselves. I liked the way the camera just cut away, letting you know that the outcome was predestined to be brief and devestating.
Me too, but he'd stolen the show from everyone else... they should have given him a spin off, as Narn inspired Knights and Rangers eventually worked together to become something greater than even the Rangers where to becoming :)
@@KaitouKenshiro I agree. Or just a separate order called Knights. Not really sure what differences would have been, as knights or Templars were the Special Forces of their day, much like Rangers in this sense.
This was one of my favorite episodes. Michael York did a great job as a veteran with PTSD. I cry every time I watch this episode where he is forced to remember the start of the Earth/Minbari war.
I once said that this man faced two incredibly similar stories: in both, a mistaken notion and his own actions nearly destroyed his world, and he watched his men slaughtered. In reality, he had only misery and haunting memories. In Arthur, he had his virtues, honor, and the hope of redemption. At the edge of sanity, who wouldn't pick the better way out?
THE BATTLE OF THE PICTURE FRAME: "Wherein His Most Royal Majesty, King Arthur Pendragon, whoopeth much ass. And whereupon he encountereth Sir G'kar of the Crimson Eye."
You should add this to Wikipeida under battles. Belligerents: King Arthur, G'Kar VS Space Loan Sharks Strength: 2 VS 12(?) Losses: Bruised Ego, 100 credit debt cancellation , Cut leg and other lacerations, 1 Picture + Frame
Yes, It's very satisfying when the bad guy says "I got friends" then G'Kar leaps the railing, shouts a resounding "So does he!" Arthur and G'Kar give each other a little nod of respect and alliance, then proceed into battle!
I just love this. I feel that G’Kar is like me in so many ways, he’s a romantic person who sees a fight and goes, “He’ll yeah! A man on a noble quest in need of help from some ruffians!” And he just jumps in. It’s campy but also sweet and it encapsulates why I love this show!
G'Kar is such a wonderful complex character. despite his faults in the early seasons, he becomes a true man of heart and purity through his journey. Regardless of who "Arthur" actually was, G'kar showed that true nobility is like Swedish meatballs, all races have their own version of it!
'They were the bad guys, as you say. We were the good guys. And they made a very satisfying thump when they hit the floor'... G'Kar needed that fight after everything he's been through... Hell I'd like get in a fight like, just to know I was the good guy fighting for the underdog and doing the right thing... RIP Andreas Katsulas, we miss you... you would have made Star Trek: Picard perfect if you'd been their reprise the role of Tomalak and act as ally, counter and kick in the ass to Patrick Stewart's Jean-Luc Picard. Well that how I personally feel on the subject. Andreas Katsulas was just an amazing actor and we're all diminished with his loss.
This scene always gets me. I love to imagine Arthur Pendragon as the sort of man Michael York portrays here. His kind words, his concern, his nobility, and his sense of justice are inspiring. The music at the very beginning of the clip was awesome, too. I could listen to that for hours. But then, stuff like this is what set B5 apart from a lot of other science fiction. It is said that STAR TREK became so popular because of its positive outlook of the future - I think the same can be said about Babylon 5. Perhaps even more so.
@@specom And thus Arthur was Arthur Pendragon. Plantagenets were the *real* kings that ruled England from the 1100s until Richard III. Richard Lionheart was a Plantagenet.
@@WilfredIvanhoe Have never heard of him referred to as anything but Arthur Plantagenet until this episode. Never heard of him being referred to as Pendragon. Please provide an source for your claim.
@@specom I don't know where you got that from, but Arthur has ALWAYS been a Pendragon, unless it was somehow different in this B5 episode. Arthur being a Pendragon is really common knowledge (similarly to Clark Kent = Kal-El = Superman) for any medieval or Arthurian enthusiast, so I can't see where your misinformation came from. But if you don't believe me, you can always google Plantagenets and Pendragons. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Plantagenet en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Pendragon_(disambiguation)
One of my favorite episodes from season 3. Michael York as King Arthur with G'Kar coming to his aid in a time of need outstanding. And they made very satisfying thump as they hit the floor..
*SPOILER* He the military officer who literally fired the opening shot of the Earth-Minbari War, which ultimately cost hundreds of thousands of human lives. The guilt of having been at the start of all that broke the poor guy, and he fell into the King Arthur delusion to escape that horrible truth.
@@kevlonk That's the point. He wasn't just a crazy guy, he was shattered by what had happened. He fell into a dissociative delusion because what he saw and did snapped his heart in half, and he wanted to be better, and even if it led to some wild actions on his part, it's not like he was insane for wanting to be better.
Yes you said it perfectly, and the way these two great Masters playoff each other in that amazing scene in the bar is worthy of the Old Vic and the Globe Theater and the highest levels of Shakespearean drama. I wonder if they ever acted together in any other circumstances?
One of the best episodes in sci-fi TV. They don't make em like this anymore that's for sure. Long live Arthur! Long live the knights of the round table!
the Minbari would probably have loved King Arthur TBH. He would not have had trouble finding a few members of the Warrior Caste willing to work with him, the actual history of the man himself. Religious caste too, probably.
A year later and this pops up on my page recommendation, here I am grateful that it did. I would love a continuation series more than a reboot and the idea of seeing Michael York sitting at a round table on Narn still appeals to me. Formerly the great warrior of Arthur, now aged and wise like Merlin. Helping guide a new generation of Narn, the man who Knighted G'Kar the Red.
Every time I watch this scene, I can't help but wonder - if insanity can make a person take a path that exemplifies the virtues of honor, justice and selflessness, than is that case of insanity a bad thing? Personally, I think it might not be. Especially with the way the world is today.
Is he insane or merely delusional? An insane person has no sense of the consequences of his actions. This guy is just confused as to who he is. A person can do good deeds whomever he thinks he is.
Pneumonica I've heard stories to that effect: I once read a memoir of a woman who worked canine SAR for years, and she told the tale of a "military man" who attached himself to their unit during a disaster, and proved to be extremely helpful and effective, despite being later found to be a crazy person. The irony always stayed with her.
"Babylon 5" beats "Star Trek" because they let someone roam around the station with a sword who thought he was King Arthur! Seriously though, I love this character and I loved his role in the old movie "Logan's Run" ... and I loved him giving back the picture to the old lady! And I loved he and G'kar in the pub afterward drinking too many ales (well at least G'Kar LOL~!! The Green Knight!! hahaa)
love the soundtrack at the beginning, medieval mysticism aboard a space station. Far from home, but not from chivalry and honour... and they made a very satisfying thump when they hit the floor. >:D
I would have loved it, if somehow, in the end, he wound up being a descendant of Arthur, or one of those "maybe?" moments. Not as on point as how Sebastian's identity, but something.
I've been a fan of Michael York since seeing the The Three Musketeers with him in it back in the late '70's. An accomplished actor and stage combat veteran. Absolutely LOVED seeing him in rare form, in my favorite show, doing what he does best! And did I mention the "thump?" :D
Michael York is a treasure. I first saw him as the old "Captain" on Avonlea and fell in love instantly. My first crush actually! Sure he was a hundred years older than me lol, but.. something about the mans eyes just draw you in and never let go.
This scene - particularly - had resonance with me! Especially with the return of that framed photo in the Silver frame. That old lady reminded me of my late mum! And if anyone stole from her. I would be upset about it as well! I'm always in tears with the scene. I will always be. I suspect!
JMS has said that when they started casting Michael O'Hare's replacement as the captain Michael York was his first choice. Warner Brothers killed the idea instantly saying "Star trek already has a English captain if we have a English captain people will think that the English run everything in the future." This is the kind of idiocy you find in Hollywood. I love Bruce Boxleitner but it would have been interesting to Michael York in the role. JMS should have just told them that Picard is actually a Frenchman.
It would've been really interesting if they left it in doubt, or even hinted, that he actually may have been the real King Arthur. Heck, they could've had him leaving the station to find places that needed justice done, and have him meet Kosh on the way, who give him some sort of acknowledgement, hinting that perhaps the Vorlons found and preserved King Arthur. I'm not criticizing the ending, it was alright. I just think this version I just wrote might've been interesting.
Interesting episode. The legend of King Arthur was one of George Lucas's influences behind Star Wars and in the final season of the original series of Doctor Who, The 7th Doctor and Ace encountered Arthurian knights from another dimension.
My husband said when we first saw this there goes i but for the grace of God there is only a fine amount of evil or lost of life that a soldier can handle before they are changed
One of the amazing qualities of B5 was that we saw how individuals, from almost all the "races" could transcend towards a higher purpose. And draw strength from it. Would've loved to see "Arthur" face off against "Jack".
I am a bit disappointed they didn't hang that sword in a place of honor (or at least on the bridge) when Excalibur went on her crusade. I'm certain Lancelot would have approved. As well as Arthur.
When Sheridan took the Whitestar fleet to liberate Earth, he flew with a bright and prominent sword insignia on his flagship. I like to imagine he chose this emblem, to honor Arthur and again, when they named the first prototype of the brand new Victory class battleship The Excaliber
The doctor in this episode is at his most annoying. More than 20 years ago, I saw a news story about a child that was an idiot savant. She could do almost nothing for herself, but she drew sketches that were comparable to something by Michelangelo or Da Vinci. A shrink decided it would be better for her to know how to tie her shoes and do other trivial things, so through a grueling process he essentially broke her. She learned to tie shoes, but lost the ability to draw like a master. The moral of my story? If a mental problem results in greatness, keep the mental problem.
Well that shrink obviously had her best interest in mind, not people who like cool sketches. Taking care of yourself is somewhat crucial. Imagine if you were a happy degenerate that made funny noises, and could but would not be fixed because other people liked it a lot.
To be fair, the doctor after does say it was a bad idea and that he thought he knew better. Still, I like the scene where Delenn comes and receives the sword.
@@nothankyouization I said more than 20 years ago. I think it might have been on 60 Minutes. Do YOU have references for things you saw in the 90s? If you were even born then.
Wha... Where the heck did you read that nonsense? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paladin Yes I know it's wiki, but it has way more basis in fact than whatever you fell upon.
It always annoyed me when asked to yield, the guy said no, he had friends. But what good are they when the guy had his sword at his throat. He could of sneezed and the tip would have went through.
"I got your consequences..." *Taps what is presumably supposed to be a metal pipe but sounds suspiciously like hollow PVC plastic* "Right here." - That probably would have been more intimidating if they'd dubbed in a metallic sound.
Man oh man, there are so many times I could have used G'Kar jumping into some fight I started and was about to get my ass kicked ... He would scare the shit outta Mike Tyson himself with that "AHHHHHH" lizard-rawr.
Been a while since I watched this series and can't remember if Marcus was on station at this time but would like to imagine if Arthur saw him he would add him to new round table with G'kar
Fist time I saw this episode I though may be he is the real King Arthur perhaps escaped from some time stasis technology that the Vorlons have. There was an episode where Jack the Ripper interrogates Delen and Sheridan on the orders of the Vorlons.
I don't blame GKar. I'd jump a fence to fight beside Arthur, too.
I'd jump and help G'kar
@@dspf68 Likewise. People who beat on the weak are scum.
Chivalry is not dead, its in the heart and the head. The Arthur episode was one of the best. Hail and well met.
I'd also stand beside Arthur.
Follow them into hell I would.
Does anyone else tear up a little bit from watching this. one of my favorite episodes!
"That's alright! SO DOES HE!"
Not gonna lie. Those damn onion cutting ninjas got me again.
But they DID make a rather satisfying thump when they hit the floor. :)
Well it is kind of both aspirational and fulfilling when you're the romantic sort. Guilty as charged.
Absolutely, there's a purity in a just cause that touches the deepest recesses of the heart, no fight is so satisfying, and no image so powerful as a noble man in a noble cause.
Aye, there was something about this one. Just love that moment when G'Kar shouts out "Thats alright! So does he!"
"Eyes as lovely as yours were never meant for tears, dear lady. Withdraw them." I'm using this on my wife, lol.
Did it work?
Still like the scene where he returns the frame to her hand.
@@Thalanox Yes, did it work?
I remember this scene with fondness. A man wearing armor and yielding a sword, VS a gang. G'kar joins in the fight because he could tell at a glance it was a simple fight a good man vs bad men.
Of all the political crap he has to deal with this one fight was a simple battle of good vs evil, and he picked the side of good. The old saying "Evil thrives when good men do nothing," G'kar saw a good man doing something and joined him.
"And they made a very satisfying thump!!"
amen
Agreed, also forms part of G'Kars journey to enlightenment. I loved the freedom he felt fighting for what was right in the here and now in the dark where no one would know!
I would have dear loved to have seen Arthur and G'kar forming a new round table. The best and bravest of each race, serving as an example of honour and goodness in a dark galaxy. Even if it did turn out that Arthur was just a war veteran, mentally unbalanced by unimaginable guilt and trauma, it doesn't change the fact that he represented an ideal sorely lacking in the galaxy.
Maybe King Arthur should have joined the Rangers then. They were an ideal similar to his own.
I'd watch that spin-off. Maybe as a part of the Rangers? Or a separate group sponsored by the Narn?
Combining human chivalry and Ranger ideals would make an amazing team. We should see something like that.
Notice the table they sit at when they have drinks at the end? it's round!
@@hagamapama problem with that is the rangers are tasked to watch offer no aid (until ordered by their own leaders), King Arthur saw wrong and wanted it stopped or righted...
RIP Andreas. May you make satisfying thumps whereever your essence finds itself.
I wonder, it it was then, after seeing Arthur, delusion or not, that G'kar began his introspection. To see such a noble, kind, and righteous visage, regardless of why it exists, would it not give you pause, make you evaluate your own notions. Perhaps G'kar took his "knighthood" even with its falsity and birth from delusion, inside himself, and this was the point in which he strived to become nobler than he was. I can see some of Arthur in his later speeches, in his one voice declaration, in his speech on freedom, mayhaps even in his forgiveness later on.
Perhaps Arthur Pendragon did live on, in G'kar.
That G'kar jumped that railing and was willing to stand and fight beside a man he didn't know for cause of justice showed that he was already noble.
He simply needed someone to remind him of it.
That is my canon from now on, hands down
His talk with G'Quan (Kosh) was what changed him, this was his opportunity to prove he changed
A year old, and I am only just now Like 69.
G'Kar was always one of my favorite characters on B5.
He started out a complete ass ( "A direct mating wold be preferred, but I don't know your pleasure threshhold") and became on the most noble characters on the show.
I think that in meeting him and learning about the knights of old and the code of chivalry and all that, it gave G'kar the sort of philosophical framework he'd perhaps been missing. Concepts and feelings he'd already had were given words and it all started to fit together, which is why G'kar took to it as rapidly as he did
I love how G'kar goes 100% in on this, he's been living for this moment forever.
At this point in the series, G’Kar needed this fight!
"That's OK, I got friends , see??!" === THAT'S ALRIGHT .... *SO DOES HE!!!*🏴☠🏴☠🏴☠
He needed an outlet for his frustrations, and these fools nominated themselves.
I liked the way the camera just cut away, letting you know that the outcome was predestined to be brief and devestating.
Michael York's performance is spectacular. I wish we could have had an episode to see how he trained his Knights of Narn.
Me too, but he'd stolen the show from everyone else... they should have given him a spin off, as Narn inspired Knights and Rangers eventually worked together to become something greater than even the Rangers where to becoming :)
Wait what?
@@KaitouKenshiro I agree. Or just a separate order called Knights. Not really sure what differences would have been, as knights or Templars were the Special Forces of their day, much like Rangers in this sense.
But those are no longer known as the Knights Of Narn. Now they call themselves the Knights Who Go IckiwhambamZog. Emphasis on the zog.
@@annoyed707 Per chance were these Knights that Go IckiwhambamZog, on a Holy Quest?
Chivalry is not dead, it just went Sci-Fi.
and then Sci-Fi died
Chivalry indeed did not die. It is, however, solely the province of the mentally ill. I should know.
@@AnonEyeMouse But they *might* be giants.
@@crazylarryjr Sci-Fi is not dead. It just smells funny.
@@careylymanjones, Yes it is, Sci Fi Channel is now more reality shows and informercials
And the made a very satisfying THUMP, when they hit the floor!
Priceless.
With the delivery that line always cracks me up
This was one of my favorite episodes. Michael York did a great job as a veteran with PTSD. I cry every time I watch this episode where he is forced to remember the start of the Earth/Minbari war.
I love that G'kar just gets caught up in the moment and jumps in because he is so hyped up. ^^
G'kar IS the hype
"Eyes as lovely as yours", he speaks the line with such wonderful sincerity, such passion put into the role.
THEY were the Bad Guys, WE were the Good Guys, and they made a Very Satisfying Thump when they hit the floor!!!🏴☠🏴☠🏴☠
"A Late Arrival From Avalon", was one of my favourite episodes! They DID "make a very satisfying thump, when they hit the floor!" Lol!
I once said that this man faced two incredibly similar stories: in both, a mistaken notion and his own actions nearly destroyed his world, and he watched his men slaughtered. In reality, he had only misery and haunting memories. In Arthur, he had his virtues, honor, and the hope of redemption. At the edge of sanity, who wouldn't pick the better way out?
THE BATTLE OF THE PICTURE FRAME:
"Wherein His Most Royal Majesty, King Arthur Pendragon, whoopeth much ass. And whereupon he encountereth Sir G'kar of the Crimson Eye."
02:17 Behold the King's Mighty Hand of Bitch-Slapping
Yea, verily. And likewise, his mighty Blade of Criminal Circumcision.
You should add this to Wikipeida under battles.
Belligerents:
King Arthur, G'Kar VS Space Loan Sharks
Strength:
2 VS 12(?)
Losses:
Bruised Ego, 100 credit debt cancellation , Cut leg and other lacerations, 1 Picture + Frame
And there was much rejoicing. (Yaaay.)
No doubt, the poor muggers were moaning, "uuuuuunnnnnnnhhhhhhh," for a long while.
They'd have been safer fighting a rabbit. ;-)
Heart-felt inspirational story-telling...
and a very satisfying thump!
I live this episode G'Kar is like "OH WE FIGHTIN!? ME TOO!"
Yes, It's very satisfying when the bad guy says "I got friends" then G'Kar leaps the railing, shouts a resounding "So does he!" Arthur and G'Kar give each other a little nod of respect and alliance, then proceed into battle!
This may be my favorite interpretation of King Arthur.
Michael York is (was?) a truly great actor. That’s what makes this episode compelling instead of cheesy.
This or Fate/Stay Night
King Arthur Legend of the Sword is right up there.
I just love this. I feel that G’Kar is like me in so many ways, he’s a romantic person who sees a fight and goes, “He’ll yeah! A man on a noble quest in need of help from some ruffians!” And he just jumps in. It’s campy but also sweet and it encapsulates why I love this show!
G'Kar is such a wonderful complex character. despite his faults in the early seasons, he becomes a true man of heart and purity through his journey. Regardless of who "Arthur" actually was, G'kar showed that true nobility is like Swedish meatballs, all races have their own version of it!
Sometimes I wonder if it's not that he "lost his marbles," but the world had forgotten men like King Arthur, and the chaos forged him all over again.
His mind escaped and found a personality it thought the world needed ..
'They were the bad guys, as you say. We were the good guys. And they made a very satisfying thump when they hit the floor'...
G'Kar needed that fight after everything he's been through...
Hell I'd like get in a fight like, just to know I was the good guy fighting for the underdog and doing the right thing...
RIP Andreas Katsulas, we miss you... you would have made Star Trek: Picard perfect if you'd been their reprise the role of Tomalak and act as ally, counter and kick in the ass to Patrick Stewart's Jean-Luc Picard.
Well that how I personally feel on the subject.
Andreas Katsulas was just an amazing actor and we're all diminished with his loss.
Glad I met him. Sadly I lost the con program he signed, and I had no camera to get a photo with him. Thankfully I got a photo with Peter Jurasik.
I love how G'Kar instantly fanboyed in on our man "Arthur".
It was scenes like that that made Babylon 5 downright fun to watch and a very good series. We never knew what was coming next. Most times.
Honor and bravery are ALWAYS, very cool.
damn straight.
One of the single most bad-ass moments in sci-fi history. Gives me chills.
That first scene with the old woman and the music was amazing
Nick Maniatis the whole thing was amazing
This scene always gets me. I love to imagine Arthur Pendragon as the sort of man Michael York portrays here. His kind words, his concern, his nobility, and his sense of justice are inspiring. The music at the very beginning of the clip was awesome, too. I could listen to that for hours.
But then, stuff like this is what set B5 apart from a lot of other science fiction. It is said that STAR TREK became so popular because of its positive outlook of the future - I think the same can be said about Babylon 5. Perhaps even more so.
Arthur Plantagenet. His father was Uther Pendragon.
@@specom And thus Arthur was Arthur Pendragon.
Plantagenets were the *real* kings that ruled England from the 1100s until Richard III. Richard Lionheart was a Plantagenet.
@@WilfredIvanhoe Have never heard of him referred to as anything but Arthur Plantagenet until this episode. Never heard of him being referred to as Pendragon. Please provide an source for your claim.
@@specom I don't know where you got that from, but Arthur has ALWAYS been a Pendragon, unless it was somehow different in this B5 episode.
Arthur being a Pendragon is really common knowledge (similarly to Clark Kent = Kal-El = Superman) for any medieval or Arthurian enthusiast, so I can't see where your misinformation came from. But if you don't believe me, you can always google Plantagenets and Pendragons.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Plantagenet
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Pendragon_(disambiguation)
Star Trek showed us what we could achieve if we overcame our flaws. B-5 showed us what we could achieve in spite of our flaws.
this is a great defining moment for G'kar, to be beside a noble heart good standing between the darkness and the light and to meet Arthur
One of my favorite episodes from season 3. Michael York as King Arthur with G'Kar coming to his aid in a time of need outstanding. And they made very satisfying thump as they hit the floor..
Some of you question his "sanity", the good man wasn't insane, he was heartbroken.
*SPOILER*
He the military officer who literally fired the opening shot of the Earth-Minbari War, which ultimately cost hundreds of thousands of human lives. The guilt of having been at the start of all that broke the poor guy, and he fell into the King Arthur delusion to escape that horrible truth.
HE wore that delusion pretty danged well.
@@kevlonk That's the point. He wasn't just a crazy guy, he was shattered by what had happened. He fell into a dissociative delusion because what he saw and did snapped his heart in half, and he wanted to be better, and even if it led to some wild actions on his part, it's not like he was insane for wanting to be better.
probably my favorite scene from my favorite B5 episode...Michael York was the only one who could possibly play this role.
Two actors such as these the world may never see again. We as fans were blessed to have them, especially together as they were here.
Yes you said it perfectly, and the way these two great Masters playoff each other in that amazing scene in the bar is worthy of the Old Vic and the Globe Theater and the highest levels of Shakespearean drama. I wonder if they ever acted together in any other circumstances?
Amen
One of the best episodes in sci-fi TV. They don't make em like this anymore that's for sure. Long live Arthur! Long live the knights of the round table!
A new knightly order made of different races would have been awesome
What do you think the Rangers were?
the Minbari would probably have loved King Arthur TBH. He would not have had trouble finding a few members of the Warrior Caste willing to work with him, the actual history of the man himself. Religious caste too, probably.
One of the most satisfying, and beautiful scenes in all of fiction.
Phil, I agree with you 100%.
@@user-xu4ow3bu6f To this day it still can impress.
Was fantastic to have Michael York on B5.
This is probably one of my favorite episodes in the entire series.
this is one of those episodes that makes you just fall in love with this show if you didn't already love it
A year later and this pops up on my page recommendation, here I am grateful that it did. I would love a continuation series more than a reboot and the idea of seeing Michael York sitting at a round table on Narn still appeals to me. Formerly the great warrior of Arthur, now aged and wise like Merlin. Helping guide a new generation of Narn, the man who Knighted G'Kar the Red.
Alas, the Reaper has taken so many of this fine cast and crew and all that is left is a reboot and homage to what this was...
Every time I watch this scene, I can't help but wonder - if insanity can make a person take a path that exemplifies the virtues of honor, justice and selflessness, than is that case of insanity a bad thing? Personally, I think it might not be. Especially with the way the world is today.
+Daniel Haire
Read "Don Quixote": it asks a lot of the same questions.
Nick Hentschel
I have read it and seen "Man of La Mancha"
+Daniel Haire Then I think we understand each other.
Good form, sir!
Is he insane or merely delusional? An insane person has no sense of the consequences of his actions. This guy is just confused as to who he is. A person can do good deeds whomever he thinks he is.
Pneumonica I've heard stories to that effect: I once read a memoir of a woman who worked canine SAR for years, and she told the tale of a "military man" who attached himself to their unit during a disaster, and proved to be extremely helpful and effective, despite being later found to be a crazy person. The irony always stayed with her.
Michael York, proof nothing is acted if it isn't over acted, I absolutely love his work.
I love Logan's Run and this.
The overacting is in character though, so at that point is it really overacting?
@@hagamapama: ''How dare you use logic on me!'' You're probably right.
@@hagamapama It's called being a Large Ham so in a sense, yes.
He's awesome as Basil from Austin Powers! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Babylon 5" beats "Star Trek" because they let someone roam around the station with a sword who thought he was King Arthur! Seriously though, I love this character and I loved his role in the old movie "Logan's Run" ... and I loved him giving back the picture to the old lady! And I loved he and G'kar in the pub afterward drinking too many ales (well at least G'Kar LOL~!! The Green Knight!! hahaa)
I loved him and I loved the questor from season 1 who was a very similar story.
They also let Jack the Ripper on the station as well, well the Vorlons brought him
Logan’s Run, The Taming of the Shrew, Murder on the Orient Express (1974). Michael York could do it all!
Michael York would had made a good Jedi Master.
Too emotional. Good in an actor, awful in a Jedi.
@@Egilhelmson Like Benicia del Tora being wasted in TLJ.
@@Egilhelmson wrong. he would've fitted under grandmaster luke in legends
I hope that one time in my life I will stumble upon a similar scenario and get the chance to say THAT'S ALRIGHT.. SO DOES HE!!!
love the soundtrack at the beginning, medieval mysticism aboard a space station. Far from home, but not from chivalry and honour... and they made a very satisfying thump when they hit the floor. >:D
One of my favorite episodes. Really enjoyed this character. B5 had so many great ones.
The madness of righting wrongs. Wouldn't the madness be in not trying to?
A life defending and serving others is not a life wasted.
By G'Quan, this is one of my favourite episodes.
I would have loved it, if somehow, in the end, he wound up being a descendant of Arthur, or one of those "maybe?" moments. Not as on point as how Sebastian's identity, but something.
I've been a fan of Michael York since seeing the The Three Musketeers with him in it back in the late '70's. An accomplished actor and stage combat veteran. Absolutely LOVED seeing him in rare form, in my favorite show, doing what he does best! And did I mention the "thump?" :D
Michael York is a treasure. I first saw him as the old "Captain" on Avonlea and fell in love instantly. My first crush actually! Sure he was a hundred years older than me lol, but.. something about the mans eyes just draw you in and never let go.
G'Kar was so touched when "Arthur" knighted him.
This scene - particularly - had resonance with me! Especially with the return of that framed photo in the Silver frame. That old lady reminded me of my late mum! And if anyone stole from her. I would be upset about it as well! I'm always in tears with the scene. I will always be. I suspect!
I would not mind having a king like that! It would be much preferable to the last 30 years of presidents.
I would say 40! ;-)
Very good. It was, as Worf would say "Glorious".
Varvatos Vex Approves this message! GLORIOUS!
JMS has said that when they started casting Michael O'Hare's replacement as the captain Michael York was his first choice. Warner Brothers killed the idea instantly saying "Star trek already has a English captain if we have a English captain people will think that the English run everything in the future." This is the kind of idiocy you find in Hollywood. I love Bruce Boxleitner but it would have been interesting to Michael York in the role. JMS should have just told them that Picard is actually a Frenchman.
That would have been very interesting. As much as I love Michael York, I can’t see him playing Sheridan...
That would have been cool, but my childhood kicked in back in the day-even though I was a teenager-knowing that TRON was running the station.
It would've been really interesting if they left it in doubt, or even hinted, that he actually may have been the real King Arthur. Heck, they could've had him leaving the station to find places that needed justice done, and have him meet Kosh on the way, who give him some sort of acknowledgement, hinting that perhaps the Vorlons found and preserved King Arthur.
I'm not criticizing the ending, it was alright. I just think this version I just wrote might've been interesting.
I was hoping for something like what you described actually.
What makes you so sure he isn't the real Arthur? Next you'll be saying that Jeffrey Sinclair isn't the reincarnation of Valen...
Heh heh, point.
Well truth to be told, Captain Sinclair is not the reincarnation of Valen. He IS Valen.
It's hinted that he's both. "He is the closed circle. He is returning to the beginning."
I wish there was sci find even half as good as this now
Sci Fi need more valiant questing knights in it!
The ending of this episode is quite beautiful.
To have a chance to stand. For nothing but honor and what is right. That would be a gift.
GKar fight alongside Arthur. Ah knight era was cool.
Interesting episode. The legend of King Arthur was one of George Lucas's influences behind Star Wars and in the final season of the original series of Doctor Who, The 7th Doctor and Ace encountered Arthurian knights from another dimension.
My husband said when we first saw this there goes i but for the grace of God there is only a fine amount of evil or lost of life that a soldier can handle before they are changed
always wondered what happened to this character after he went to Narn
One of the amazing qualities of B5 was that we saw how individuals, from almost all the "races" could transcend towards a higher purpose. And draw strength from it. Would've loved to see "Arthur" face off against "Jack".
Jack: For my penance, I serve the Vorlons.
Arthur: For mine, I serve GOD!
This is one of my absolute favorite B5 clips.
Such a satisfactory thump indeed 👍
G'kar is the best and most likeable alien ever created
Garrus Vikarian: Excuse me?
G'Kar probably found being an ambassador a bit boring at times and this chance to kick the ass of some bad guys....well we see how much he enjoys it.
I am a bit disappointed they didn't hang that sword in a place of honor (or at least on the bridge) when Excalibur went on her crusade. I'm certain Lancelot would have approved.
As well as Arthur.
When Sheridan took the Whitestar fleet to liberate Earth, he flew with a bright and prominent sword insignia on his flagship. I like to imagine he chose this emblem, to honor Arthur and again, when they named the first prototype of the brand new Victory class battleship The Excaliber
The doctor in this episode is at his most annoying. More than 20 years ago, I saw a news story about a child that was an idiot savant. She could do almost nothing for herself, but she drew sketches that were comparable to something by Michelangelo or Da Vinci.
A shrink decided it would be better for her to know how to tie her shoes and do other trivial things, so through a grueling process he essentially broke her. She learned to tie shoes, but lost the ability to draw like a master. The moral of my story? If a mental problem results in greatness, keep the mental problem.
Well that shrink obviously had her best interest in mind, not people who like cool sketches. Taking care of yourself is somewhat crucial. Imagine if you were a happy degenerate that made funny noises, and could but would not be fixed because other people liked it a lot.
@@ВалБал-н3й yes, because why be extraordinary when you can be mundane.
To be fair, the doctor after does say it was a bad idea and that he thought he knew better. Still, I like the scene where Delenn comes and receives the sword.
link? references? evidence? names? if not, i call bullshit.
@@nothankyouization I said more than 20 years ago. I think it might have been on 60 Minutes. Do YOU have references for things you saw in the 90s? If you were even born then.
I hope Netflix will get this series soon
Nobody should hold exclusive streaming for a great show like this
Apparently, HBO Max is streaming them.
Sir G’Kar, the Red Knight
RELEASE THAT MAN.
Oh yeah! Paladins rock!! lol :-D
Wha... Where the heck did you read that nonsense?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paladin
Yes I know it's wiki, but it has way more basis in fact than whatever you fell upon.
It always annoyed me when asked to yield, the guy said no, he had friends. But what good are they when the guy had his sword at his throat. He could of sneezed and the tip would have went through.
Arthur wasn't wrong about G'Kar, especially the priestly manner for him in later seasons.
This reduced me to tears! I found it hilarious and poignant! I was reminded of my mother! G'Kar really grew on me!
One of my faves.
York played a more sinister version of a Round Table Knight in TekWars as well.
LOVED that!
What? I like G'kar's eyes. They're a very nice shade of red.
"I got your consequences..." *Taps what is presumably supposed to be a metal pipe but sounds suspiciously like hollow PVC plastic* "Right here." - That probably would have been more intimidating if they'd dubbed in a metallic sound.
G'Kar would have made a fantastic member of the Round Table.
Man oh man, there are so many times I could have used G'Kar jumping into some fight I started and was about to get my ass kicked ... He would scare the shit outta Mike Tyson himself with that "AHHHHHH" lizard-rawr.
Fantastic, good old fashion justice. A tale for a long time to come.
I mean I get the character of "Arthur" having traumatic backstory, but why does he speak with a cadence like he's actually from the middle ages?
This whole episode reminds me of the film Harvey
"It matters not."
A very satisfying thump.
Not sure I remember this episode, but a knight-errant trying to right wrongs Down Below? Perfect.
My byliśmy dobrzy, oni źli. I z przeuroczym łomotem zwalili się na ziemię!
And they made a satisfying thump...or did I mention that....*thud*
You know sir gawain had the same trouble. In the morning we called him the green knight.
Just makes me chuckle for some reason.
Been a while since I watched this series and can't remember if Marcus was on station at this time but would like to imagine if Arthur saw him he would add him to new round table with G'kar
his sword defends the weak
His wrath undoes the wicked
@@danielhaire6677 His word speaks only truth.
Excalibur still continues to defend the weak and punish the wicked.....
@@thitsugaya1224 A knight is sworn to valor!
Two men fighting the good fight.
Fist time I saw this episode I though may be he is the real King Arthur perhaps escaped from some time stasis technology that the Vorlons have. There was an episode where Jack the Ripper interrogates Delen and Sheridan on the orders of the Vorlons.
How valiant!
"It matters not ..."
No, no it does not matter :)