Some interesting Turbomotive trivia I collected: - - Unlike the heroic failures of Fury, Hush-Hush, Leader or the GWR Gas Turbines, the Turbomotive was considered by the LMS Engineers to be successful. In 1945 the LMS (RC Bond) declared she had the second highest annual mileage in the entire LMS fleet and her previous shortcomings had now been engineered out. This is perhaps optimistic as according to 6203's record cards prior to WW2 some Princess-Royals were doing between 70-80,000 miles per annum, but that had dropped to 50,000 in wartime and never recovered (more Duchesses available?). But it is interesting to note that the Turbomotive was by then considered atleast on par with her sisters. In her last year as a turbine in April 1949 to April 1950 she achieved her maximum of 62,000 miles per annum when the rest of the Princess Royal Class average was 43,000 miles. Therefore "Gracie Fields" had eventually bettered all her Regal sisters! - Her downside was lengthy delays in the works due to the cost and lead times of bespoke spare parts that would have been resolved if more Turbomotives had been built. Similarly, she had to be sent to Crewe for specialist repairs that Camden was unable to handle. Unfortunately, the relatively short distances between UK cities meant there were few non-stop diagrams suited to Turbomotive operations. - Her mechanical efficiency was 8% higher than reciprocal sisters which did not deteriorate with use wear and tear. - tractive effort was 40,000 lbs starting and 12,000lbs at 70mph. Turbine efficiency was at its peak at 760 rpm @ 60mph but was rated to 10,220 rpm @ 90mph. The gear ratio was 34.4:1 The forward turbine was on the Left hand side of the frames ( drivers side) the smaller reverse turbine with a drive ratio of 77:1 was on the right (fireman's side). - her original 1935-1936 domeless boiler (9100) was later updated to include a dome and is now preserved on 6203 Princess Margaret Rose. - 6202 was the only Princess Royal to carry a Double Chimney. - steam turbines operate most efficiently on long non-stop runs at steady speeds therefore 6202 was usually dedicated to Euston to Liverpool services. - three mechanically similar 2-8-0 Turbomotives survive in Sweden with Ljungstrom turbines built in 1931. Stanier visited Sweden to inspect the trio before deciding to commence with 6202. One is currently under restoration to working order. One has worked as recently as the 1980s / 1990s. Unfortunately for anyone looking for an authentic Turbomotive sound file be warned that they are fitted with Westinghouse pumps! - 6202 was a joint venture between the LMS and Metropolitan Vickers of Trafford Park Manchester, who had a partnership with the Swede Frederick Ljungstrom. Ljungstrom had also previously built an experimental locomotive with Beyer-Peacock and tested it inconclusively on the LMS between 1926 and 1928. - 6202 appeared in BR Blue in the illustrations of a 1948 Janet & John story book, but did not carry this livery. 1935-1946 Crimson Lake, 1947 LMS Black, 1949-1951 BR Black, 1952 BR Green. - 6202 was fitted with a small turbine for reversing. This was really only capable of moving the loco light engine at low speed. She therefore was not allowed to haul / push trains tender-first. Photos suggest an attempt was made to haul some empty carriages without success. - 6202 was the first British Steam locomotive to have been equipped with roller bearings throughout. She had no plain bearings. An examination of the bearing condition by Timken in the 1944 gave key evidence to support the widespread application of this technology on future British locomotives. - 6202 always worked with a footplate crew of three as a fitter travelled to assist crews and attend to her daily maintenance. This was extended to four if a traction inspector visited. - 6202 was the first and only locomotive to be fitted with a speedometer by the LMS, the absence of noise / vibration caused difficulties in judging speed. - The Turbomotive had a unique sound, she had no staccato-type exhaust, but an continuous flow of spent steam that above 15mph was noiseless. Below 15 was a rising singing note giving the Turbomotive her nickname "Gracie Fields" because "she sings as she goes". Above 60mph there was an deep unobtrusive musical hum of resonance in the turbine gear train. - Track workers cautiously called her "The Ghost Train" as the lack of noise worried them. - Apart from a short stint at Edge Hill in 1930s 6202 was always London Camden allocated. - In 1936 plans were drawn up to fit 6202 with a Coronation-style streamlined casing and wooden models were developed for the LMS Wind Tunnel (the wind tunnel survived at the University of Derby untill around 2003 when it was broken up, my brother was able to make a bass guitar from wood he salvaged from it). - 6202 was rebuilt into the reciprocal locomotive 46202 "Princess Anne" in 1952 and basically became a hybrid Princess with Duchess cylinders & motion. Tragically the Super-Princess completed in August 1952 and heavily damaged in the Harrow & Wealdstone triple collision two months later in 1952. The crash resulted in 112 deaths and 340 injuries, 88 of these being detained in hospital. It remains the worst peacetime rail crash in British history. - Not all of 46202 was scrapped after Harrow. Her tender was repaired and re-allocated to Stanier 8F 48134. The boiler 46202 carried from 1936 untill the Harrow crash in 1952 No.9236 (that uniquely had an extra row of superheaters for use with turbines) was repaired and transferred to 46212 in 1954 and 46208 in 1960 untill scrapping in 1962. - There is some controversy over the scrapping of 46202. In the HMRI report she was described to be in the best condition of the three Harrow engines, her crew both survived and the boiler and tender quickly repaired. The frames were sound enough to allow the hulk to be towed at low speed to Crewe from Harrow. Yet 46242 City of Glasgow was repaired and 46202 was scrapped suprised many. The engine repair card show it was allocated to the 1953 overhaul programme but then states withdrawn from stock 22.5 54 by special authority. The consensus amongst historians is that the building of 8P 71000 Duke of Gloucester (completed in June 1954) had gone over budget by 25% and 46202 repairs were sacrificed to cover the overspend. Robert Riddles and E.S. Cox both later retrospectively claimed 71000 had always been their intended replacement for 46202.
A recommendation for future works, Paul B. Mann's "How to Draw Locomotives" is a very useful tool when illustrating these sorts of things, it goes into extensive detail on the perspective of the motion, and the finer details of engines, well worth a look through. Keep up the good work!
I've enjoyed every upload in this playlist. I've painted for relaxation over the years, always transport subjects. Your work is great encouragement for me to take it up again. I think the Turbomotive is your best to date, but they're all really good. Excellent uploads, please keep on posting.
Thankyou Keith. I'm glad that you've been able to indulge on painting transport as a past time. I'll keep doing them provided enough people keep tuning in and supporting the channel by any means necessary. If they're able to donate to my Patreon, that'll help keep me solvent enough to keep doing them.
46202: Oh boy, I sure do love my new rebuilt form, Windward Isles. I sure hope I have a long and glamorous career on BR rails- Perth to Euston express wreckage: *nope*
Have you ever tried paint pens? They are a little pricey but they do give a bold look in the outcome. I dunno, just thinking of other various art styles you could maybe try. Good turnout with the poster look though.
Here in the states, we had our fair share of steam turbine locomotives; like the GE Turbine-Electrics of 1938, the Pennsylvania S2 of 1944, the Chesapeake and Ohio M-1s of 1947-48 (intended for a passenger service that never commenced) and the Norfolk & Western 'Jawn Henry' of 1954.
You go your whole life without much Turbomotive content and suddenly you get this brand-new Hornby model and then something like this. Amazing!
Some interesting Turbomotive trivia I collected: -
- Unlike the heroic failures of Fury, Hush-Hush, Leader or the GWR Gas Turbines, the Turbomotive was considered by the LMS Engineers to be successful. In 1945 the LMS (RC Bond) declared she had the second highest annual mileage in the entire LMS fleet and her previous shortcomings had now been engineered out. This is perhaps optimistic as according to 6203's record cards prior to WW2 some Princess-Royals were doing between 70-80,000 miles per annum, but that had dropped to 50,000 in wartime and never recovered (more Duchesses available?). But it is interesting to note that the Turbomotive was by then considered atleast on par with her sisters. In her last year as a turbine in April 1949 to April 1950 she achieved her maximum of 62,000 miles per annum when the rest of the Princess Royal Class average was 43,000 miles. Therefore "Gracie Fields" had eventually bettered all her Regal sisters!
- Her downside was lengthy delays in the works due to the cost and lead times of bespoke spare parts that would have been resolved if more Turbomotives had been built. Similarly, she had to be sent to Crewe for specialist repairs that Camden was unable to handle. Unfortunately, the relatively short distances between UK cities meant there were few non-stop diagrams suited to Turbomotive operations.
- Her mechanical efficiency was 8% higher than reciprocal sisters which did not deteriorate with use wear and tear.
- tractive effort was 40,000 lbs starting and 12,000lbs at 70mph. Turbine efficiency was at its peak at 760 rpm @ 60mph but was rated to 10,220 rpm @ 90mph. The gear ratio was 34.4:1 The forward turbine was on the Left hand side of the frames ( drivers side) the smaller reverse turbine with a drive ratio of 77:1 was on the right (fireman's side).
- her original 1935-1936 domeless boiler (9100) was later updated to include a dome and is now preserved on 6203 Princess Margaret Rose.
- 6202 was the only Princess Royal to carry a Double Chimney.
- steam turbines operate most efficiently on long non-stop runs at steady speeds therefore 6202 was usually dedicated to Euston to Liverpool services.
- three mechanically similar 2-8-0 Turbomotives survive in Sweden with Ljungstrom turbines built in 1931. Stanier visited Sweden to inspect the trio before deciding to commence with 6202. One is currently under restoration to working order. One has worked as recently as the 1980s / 1990s. Unfortunately for anyone looking for an authentic Turbomotive sound file be warned that they are fitted with Westinghouse pumps!
- 6202 was a joint venture between the LMS and Metropolitan Vickers of Trafford Park Manchester, who had a partnership with the Swede Frederick Ljungstrom. Ljungstrom had also previously built an experimental locomotive with Beyer-Peacock and tested it inconclusively on the LMS between 1926 and 1928.
- 6202 appeared in BR Blue in the illustrations of a 1948 Janet & John story book, but did not carry this livery. 1935-1946 Crimson Lake, 1947 LMS Black, 1949-1951 BR Black, 1952 BR Green.
- 6202 was fitted with a small turbine for reversing. This was really only capable of moving the loco light engine at low speed. She therefore was not allowed to haul / push trains tender-first. Photos suggest an attempt was made to haul some empty carriages without success.
- 6202 was the first British Steam locomotive to have been equipped with roller bearings throughout. She had no plain bearings. An examination of the bearing condition by Timken in the 1944 gave key evidence to support the widespread application of this technology on future British locomotives.
- 6202 always worked with a footplate crew of three as a fitter travelled to assist crews and attend to her daily maintenance. This was extended to four if a traction inspector visited.
- 6202 was the first and only locomotive to be fitted with a speedometer by the LMS, the absence of noise / vibration caused difficulties in judging speed.
- The Turbomotive had a unique sound, she had no staccato-type exhaust, but an continuous flow of spent steam that above 15mph was noiseless. Below 15 was a rising singing note giving the Turbomotive her nickname "Gracie Fields" because "she sings as she goes". Above 60mph there was an deep unobtrusive musical hum of resonance in the turbine gear train.
- Track workers cautiously called her "The Ghost Train" as the lack of noise worried them.
- Apart from a short stint at Edge Hill in 1930s 6202 was always London Camden allocated.
- In 1936 plans were drawn up to fit 6202 with a Coronation-style streamlined casing and wooden models were developed for the LMS Wind Tunnel (the wind tunnel survived at the University of Derby untill around 2003 when it was broken up, my brother was able to make a bass guitar from wood he salvaged from it).
- 6202 was rebuilt into the reciprocal locomotive 46202 "Princess Anne" in 1952 and basically became a hybrid Princess with Duchess cylinders & motion. Tragically the Super-Princess completed in August 1952 and heavily damaged in the Harrow & Wealdstone triple collision two months later in 1952. The crash resulted in 112 deaths and 340 injuries, 88 of these being detained in hospital. It remains the worst peacetime rail crash in British history.
- Not all of 46202 was scrapped after Harrow. Her tender was repaired and re-allocated to Stanier 8F 48134. The boiler 46202 carried from 1936 untill the Harrow crash in 1952 No.9236 (that uniquely had an extra row of superheaters for use with turbines) was repaired and transferred to 46212 in 1954 and 46208 in 1960 untill scrapping in 1962.
- There is some controversy over the scrapping of 46202. In the HMRI report she was described to be in the best condition of the three Harrow engines, her crew both survived and the boiler and tender quickly repaired. The frames were sound enough to allow the hulk to be towed at low speed to Crewe from Harrow. Yet 46242 City of Glasgow was repaired and 46202 was scrapped suprised many. The engine repair card show it was allocated to the 1953 overhaul programme but then states withdrawn from stock 22.5 54 by special authority. The consensus amongst historians is that the building of 8P 71000 Duke of Gloucester (completed in June 1954) had gone over budget by 25% and 46202 repairs were sacrificed to cover the overspend. Robert Riddles and E.S. Cox both later retrospectively claimed 71000 had always been their intended replacement for 46202.
What a helpful trove of information thank you
Brilliant painting
Love putting these on while working and watching the engines come to life
I think the paints you used here worked brilliantly
Brilliant job Chris. Drawing the poster before painting it was a good call.
A great picture, really captures the spirit of the age and the locomotive.
I think this is my favourite painting so far, absolutely gorgeous painting and engine.
A recommendation for future works, Paul B. Mann's "How to Draw Locomotives" is a very useful tool when illustrating these sorts of things, it goes into extensive detail on the perspective of the motion, and the finer details of engines, well worth a look through. Keep up the good work!
I've enjoyed every upload in this playlist. I've painted for relaxation over the years, always transport subjects. Your work is great encouragement for me to take it up again. I think the Turbomotive is your best to date, but they're all really good. Excellent uploads, please keep on posting.
Thankyou Keith. I'm glad that you've been able to indulge on painting transport as a past time.
I'll keep doing them provided enough people keep tuning in and supporting the channel by any means necessary. If they're able to donate to my Patreon, that'll help keep me solvent enough to keep doing them.
The paints do work being honest, really brings the painting into a art Deco poster, great video
Your painting is getting better with every piece. Can't wait to see what you do next!
Best painting yet, really does help to do the lines in pencil first.
With each painting, you get better. Keep going!
The paints you were using in this work pretty well. Hadn't heard of this particular engine until this video.
Nice work Chris. If you’re so into experimental locos, I’d love to see what you make of the GER A55 or the Bulleid Leader.
Love the Art Deco style here!
Hornby are releasing a 00 gauge model of this interesting loco in the autumn. Great looking painting 👍
I just got a model of the USA’s direct drive steam locomotive, the PRR S2. I consider this a sign.
4:55 I thought only two loco where written off at Harrow? Windward Islands and Princess Anne. The Duchess city of Glasgow survived.
Two were written off afterwards, yes. But three were destroyed in the initial collision. You're right in that the Duchess was repaired
@@ChristheXelent I see. Friendly suggestion maybe a video on the Harrow and Wealdstone crash would be a good thing.
46202: Oh boy, I sure do love my new rebuilt form, Windward Isles. I sure hope I have a long and glamorous career on BR rails-
Perth to Euston express wreckage: *nope*
i like it and i want to see more! Maybe a calendar Chris?
Why not not try the gt3 at Manchester station
Have you ever tried paint pens? They are a little pricey but they do give a bold look in the outcome. I dunno, just thinking of other various art styles you could maybe try. Good turnout with the poster look though.
Here in the states, we had our fair share of steam turbine locomotives; like the GE Turbine-Electrics of 1938, the Pennsylvania S2 of 1944, the Chesapeake and Ohio M-1s of 1947-48 (intended for a passenger service that never commenced) and the Norfolk & Western 'Jawn Henry' of 1954.
Could you do another extinct American class? Like one of the PRR’s Duplexes?
Can You do with the Caledonian Drummond 66
Was the turbomotive a successful steam turbine compared to others like the Pennsylvania Railroad S2?
I do hope someone will build a replica of the princess Anne in her original condition.
not first
Truly a crying shame