I'm kinda surprised. I didn't know there was anyone at this level competing from America in the 90's. And it turns out to be Ray Park of all people. Interesting.
I saw episode 1 few years ago again, I kept thinking when Maul had saber staff cut in half and had to switch to single blade "Where have I seen that before? Not movies but IRL?" Then I remembered I once saw weapon demonstration for choy lee fut-kung fu which is one of the styles adopted to Wushu and thought "What if Ray Park has practiced Wushu?"
I realise the original comment is from 10 years ago but after watching the Maul light saber fights again, I thought I would point out that he's actually British not American.
Super Video. Erinnerst mich stark an Episode I. Darth Maul. Und was bekommen wir in TFA? Einen Kylo Ren der so wirkt als ob er auf Droge wirkt. Lachhaft.
Genetic structure is vast, and anyone who knows anything about genetics can tell you that your genes are partially determined by the diet, climate, and general day to day of your ancestors. Its the reason why asians generally are smaller, africans generally are swift to gain and sculpt muscle mass and Ireland has a high concentration of people with fair skin and red hair!
Jet Li: 5-time China National Wushu Champion Ray Park: 1995 World Wushu Championships - second place Wouldn't it be cool to see the two of them in on screen?
Did you even read my original response?! Someone was only asking what difference it made what nationality someone is... Simply by responding the way you have you make it clear that you at least subconsciously adhere to the fact that the chinese are the best in the world when it comes to wushu. This is due to training and funding alone. My point was that those that can compete with the chinese tend to be asian, which suggests something is at work on a genetic level.
ok, seriously, guys chill. The point being made about the size of the following affecting competitions is the same principle as high school or college sports here in the US: Larger schools don't compete against significantly smaller schools because they have a much broader talent-base from which to draw their athletes. The percentage of outstanding athletic ability will still be roughly the same, but the raw numbers would be majorly skewed.
actually i'm pretty impressed. I thoguht he was just a tricker or somtehing. this was pretty good wushu. cheers to him for doing the hard jump combo in beginning vs. the compulsory combo. i thought he had pretty good detail. toad and darth maul rules.
yes that is true; however, I believe the point he's making is that it would be next to impossible for someone outside of China to receive the same quality training at as early an age as would be available in China.
made a few good points from reading some physical training and physical therapy books, or athletic training, the but principles don't always apply, especially to a sport you obviously do not follow closely. Thanks for the lecture! pc out!
Only the chinese can get the same training. Every chinese citizen learns wushu when they start school as part of their education. Many of them have studied it every day for hours, you can't do that anywhere else but china. Plus generally asians have better matabolism and smaller frames, which make them excellent jumpers. I'm only stating facts here. All you have to do is look at the results from every international wushu event ever held.
His hand went down though... :-( thats considered only B category nandu nowadays though, there are guys who can do 720 butterfly into 900 XFJ split all day long *envyyyy*
actually, he commented that the relatively smaller skeletal frame of the Asian peoples means that they have to use less force than, say, someone of Irish or German descent to jump the same height. That's just basic physics there.
If I was a martial artist, I'd follow the way Bruce Lee did. Avoid baked goods and junk food because they have calories that do nothing for your body and they are considered the "wrong fuel." You need to eat fruits, vegetables, asian food is ok, and anything that are good sources of vitamins.
Yes, all humans are created equal, but we aren't made to be the SAME! We all have our strengths and our weaknesses, we are all unique. And, guess what, a smaller frame does make a difference in how quickly you move or how high you can jump. Now, are you going to tell me that your average Asian male/female does not have a smaller build than your average Western European male/female respectively?
I know his performance as darth maul might tell you otherwise, but his butterfly twist here isn't that good here actually, it's not horizontal enough, probably lost points there
Dude, you don't even follow the sport. If you did, you would know some of the new athletes in China that have become National Champions have "bigger frames" (at least 5'10 or 5'11, around 200 lbs). look up Zheng Lei Shi, 2005 champion of southern fist, and 2009 #1 qualifier, or wu cai bo. Also, look up Daisuke of japan if you don't think athletes outside of china have a chance, or andrey koval of ukraine, or watch?v=iHaTtQ8V0PQ&feature=related vladmir k. from russia. Yes you may have
China gets beat sometimes at Asian Games. The other countries must have had athletes that were genetically superior anomalies. Either that or you are arguing for both nature and nurture, but placing greater emphasis on the genetic end.
The problem is that most countries (a few exceptions) don't have a big wushu following, and therefore can't physically compete alongside the chinese, that is all thats being said... Somehow now I'm acused of being racist because I look up to the chinese for their wushu, and ignorant because I harbour an interest in genetics and biology... Hmmm and that means I'm not looking at the "big picture"... good work.
Also, if you look, the current reigning changquan champion Yuan Xiao Chao of Shanxi does not have the strongest. I'm sure a top level westerner could rock him in certain situations. Your little "interpretation" of Medical Journals meant you saw a few facts, you connected the dots yourself (oh! small structures equals their superior in wushu), and you called it fact. The medical journals didn't say it, it was your strict interpretation.
wu-shu is more about gymnastics than anything. it's all about showing how legendary martial arts appears to those who not really fight. watch some MMA and some K1 and you'll see what fighters really look like.
It's funny you view yourself as above the conversation even though you interchangably bounce between the gene card and the nurture card. The fact that you stoop to name-calling (and foul language) shows you are nowhere as sophisticated as you think you are. I've heard that Russia has outperformed Zhao Qing Jian at 2003 worlds, but ZQJ prolly got it based on politics and saving face.
Finally some footage of Ray Park doing Wushu
Ray executed one of the most toughest moves in wushu: a butterfly twist into a jump inside kick split. And it's the best I've seen.
Who would've though that six years later this kid would play a Sith in the first Star Wars movie.
Nice moves! Too bad this video was shot in BD (blurred definition).
He was only 16 years old here.
This was '93 right? If so then he was 19 since he was born in '74. It's impressive nevertheless.
Whoa, Ray Park is just BADASS!! Beautiful energy and stamina...gotta love the stamina. :P LOL
I'm kinda surprised. I didn't know there was anyone at this level competing from America in the 90's. And it turns out to be Ray Park of all people. Interesting.
I saw episode 1 few years ago again, I kept thinking when Maul had saber staff cut in half and had to switch to single blade "Where have I seen that before? Not movies but IRL?" Then I remembered I once saw weapon demonstration for choy lee fut-kung fu which is one of the styles adopted to Wushu and thought "What if Ray Park has practiced Wushu?"
I realise the original comment is from 10 years ago but after watching the Maul light saber fights again, I thought I would point out that he's actually British not American.
maul in the real life
when the ninjas are everywhere but only you can see them
Wow, I didn't think that I'd ever see any of Ray's tournament performances! Thank you so much for sharing!
who would know in only a few years he would become the best knowed starwarsactor darth maul
Baby Maul as a human
Super Video. Erinnerst mich stark an Episode I.
Darth Maul. Und was bekommen wir in TFA? Einen Kylo Ren der so wirkt als ob er auf Droge wirkt. Lachhaft.
I'd like to see Ray play some more iconic roles
Genetic structure is vast, and anyone who knows anything about genetics can tell you that your genes are partially determined by the diet, climate, and general day to day of your ancestors. Its the reason why asians generally are smaller, africans generally are swift to gain and sculpt muscle mass and Ireland has a high concentration of people with fair skin and red hair!
Very impressive.
So good.
Darth Maul, Jiayo!
Master They of Wutan International, based in the UK
Jet Li: 5-time China National Wushu Champion
Ray Park: 1995 World Wushu Championships - second place
Wouldn't it be cool to see the two of them in on screen?
which one was in a star wars movie
Awesome!
Impressive
It's sad he didn't get more screen time in Episode 1.
@libernull : K1 is only violence...my tip is,dont make a trained wushu angry ^^ ;-) believe me
His jumps are far more better than jet li`s, but jet li is quick as hell!!!
Absolute legend
Did you even read my original response?! Someone was only asking what difference it made what nationality someone is... Simply by responding the way you have you make it clear that you at least subconsciously adhere to the fact that the chinese are the best in the world when it comes to wushu. This is due to training and funding alone. My point was that those that can compete with the chinese tend to be asian, which suggests something is at work on a genetic level.
ok, seriously, guys chill. The point being made about the size of the following affecting competitions is the same principle as high school or college sports here in the US: Larger schools don't compete against significantly smaller schools because they have a much broader talent-base from which to draw their athletes. The percentage of outstanding athletic ability will still be roughly the same, but the raw numbers would be majorly skewed.
ALSO....snake eyes from GI Joes
actually i'm pretty impressed. I thoguht he was just a tricker or somtehing. this was pretty good wushu. cheers to him for doing the hard jump combo in beginning vs. the compulsory combo. i thought he had pretty good detail. toad and darth maul rules.
Its the old compulsory Changquan routine
OMG, little Ray!
yes that is true; however, I believe the point he's making is that it would be next to impossible for someone outside of China to receive the same quality training at as early an age as would be available in China.
great upload. park looks a litle chubby now thought.
made a few good points from reading some physical training and physical therapy books, or athletic training, the but principles don't always apply, especially to a sport you obviously do not follow closely. Thanks for the lecture! pc out!
Amazing
Only the chinese can get the same training. Every chinese citizen learns wushu when they start school as part of their education. Many of them have studied it every day for hours, you can't do that anywhere else but china. Plus generally asians have better matabolism and smaller frames, which make them excellent jumpers. I'm only stating facts here. All you have to do is look at the results from every international wushu event ever held.
this looks like it was filmed in malaysia..
His hand went down though... :-( thats considered only B category nandu nowadays though, there are guys who can do 720 butterfly into 900 XFJ split all day long *envyyyy*
He needs a little ribbon in each hand for this ballet dancing
actually, he commented that the relatively smaller skeletal frame of the Asian peoples means that they have to use less force than, say, someone of Irish or German descent to jump the same height. That's just basic physics there.
applies to life.
holy crap i just started learning the first set of chang quan...theres so much to go D: im stuck 1:00 :l
How's your training going now?how far along are you today in your journey?
I am stuck at 0:01 :P
impressive...most impressive (o;
i didn't know he was the black ninja in G.I JOE
well said.
apparently hes going to play Marvel's "Iron Fist" character
Sadly not :(
isent this basically old compulsory?
fue bueno ..!
If I was a martial artist, I'd follow the way Bruce Lee did. Avoid baked goods and junk food because they have calories that do nothing for your body and they are considered the "wrong fuel." You need to eat fruits, vegetables, asian food is ok, and anything that are good sources of vitamins.
Damn! That's Good!
In Sleepy Hallow he didn't have a head
Yes, all humans are created equal, but we aren't made to be the SAME! We all have our strengths and our weaknesses, we are all unique. And, guess what, a smaller frame does make a difference in how quickly you move or how high you can jump. Now, are you going to tell me that your average Asian male/female does not have a smaller build than your average Western European male/female respectively?
its in the title
Nope. I'm only relaying facts that I've read in various medical journals and historical publications...
I know his performance as darth maul might tell you otherwise, but his butterfly twist here isn't that good here actually, it's not horizontal enough, probably lost points there
you can't get training like that in Russia, Ukraine, Korea, Japan, or Vietnam or any other country with professional teams and training?
Wasn't Ray Park a practitioner of traditional Northern Style Shaolin?
who was ray parks coach at the time??? =)
And he's only around 19/20 in this video?
Dude, you don't even follow the sport. If you did, you would know some of the new athletes in China that have become National Champions have "bigger frames" (at least 5'10 or 5'11, around 200 lbs). look up Zheng Lei Shi, 2005 champion of southern fist, and 2009 #1 qualifier, or wu cai bo. Also, look up Daisuke of japan if you don't think athletes outside of china have a chance, or andrey koval of ukraine, or watch?v=iHaTtQ8V0PQ&feature=related vladmir k. from russia. Yes you may have
China gets beat sometimes at Asian Games. The other countries must have had athletes that were genetically superior anomalies. Either that or you are arguing for both nature and nurture, but placing greater emphasis on the genetic end.
Water bending hahaha
The problem is that most countries (a few exceptions) don't have a big wushu following, and therefore can't physically compete alongside the chinese, that is all thats being said... Somehow now I'm acused of being racist because I look up to the chinese for their wushu, and ignorant because I harbour an interest in genetics and biology... Hmmm and that means I'm not looking at the "big picture"... good work.
is he doing a particular style?
I think its shaolin kung-fu.
erm, not really, seeing as I'm a wushu competitor... AND not from china. Ask any international wushu competitor, theyll tell you the same thing
wushu
This is actually Modern Wushu.
Wushu is the chinese national sport, most of their juniors could wipe the floor with the adult players from the rest of the world...
Охуенно
Yet, he still got killed by Annakin
@Lightsaber328 TheMan that's what I meant
Also, if you look, the current reigning changquan champion Yuan Xiao Chao of Shanxi does not have the strongest. I'm sure a top level westerner could rock him in certain situations. Your little "interpretation" of Medical Journals meant you saw a few facts, you connected the dots yourself (oh! small structures equals their superior in wushu), and you called it fact. The medical journals didn't say it, it was your strict interpretation.
wu-shu is more about gymnastics than anything. it's all about showing how legendary martial arts appears to those who not really fight. watch some MMA and some K1 and you'll see what fighters really look like.
He has a great, relaxed smooth style. Represent the white folks!! ;)
It's funny you view yourself as above the conversation even though you interchangably bounce between the gene card and the nurture card. The fact that you stoop to name-calling (and foul language) shows you are nowhere as sophisticated as you think you are. I've heard that Russia has outperformed Zhao Qing Jian at 2003 worlds, but ZQJ prolly got it based on politics and saving face.
Waht
wushu