I believe Loraine is suffering from postpartum depression right after the birth of callum, this explains why she leaves callum alone in the car and why she was so unresponsive to the cop as well. On top of her preexisting mental health issues
Oh most definitely she was suffering from it, since she had no support system it was hard for her to do anything, especially bonding with her son. I think due to her never really bonding with him she grew to dispise him. I theorize that her mom also had postpartum depression, and that's why it was so east for her to leave. Sadly I think that if Loraine left Callum in fostercare I think it may have been better for the both of them
Probably. But iirc, the other games set in this universe confirms that all the supernatural stuff is real and Winter uses the park to siphon emotions in order to give him power and immortality. Some people have their negative emotions amplified and that's what's going on with Lorraine. Winter, as the Bogeyman, drove her to kill Callum so he could further feed off her despair.
@Kirsten Marie I don't think it took much convincing on her part to do so. I felt bad for her up until it seemed like she might kill him. I don't understand how someone isn't able to love their child, it doesn't make sense to me. But I understand her pain and turmoil towards that she doesn't love him, I wish the worse for her. Winter gave her the ice pick and held onto her as it went down, but he never forced her to kill Callum. He moved away and she did it anyway. He did have to nudge her very much, but she still made that choice herself.
I KNOW RIGHT! the casheer knowing Loraine i can accept that, she said she comes back there often, but him saying "you son Just Got in, i'll unlock the door" thats not a red flag, THATS A STOP SIGN
I think this might be obvious but I think callum was the kid found behind the cotton candy machine. With the themes of the games and characters seemingly snapping before the murders I don’t think the boogie man is real I think Lorraine just snapped one day and killed callum which is why she keeps going back to the park and why Hansel and Gretel keep coming up. The story is told through her perspective and her mind is deteriorating, she probably just snapped one day and killed her kid and she’s using the “park curse” to justify losing 2 people to the park
In the universe that The Park is set in, the boogie man does exist and in another game (Secret World Legends) set in the same universe you get to meet him.
This reminds me of the movie The Babadook. Postnatal depression can lead to psychosis and that is a darkness that consume a person’s mind. Most don’t realize that severe instances can of Postnatal depression can show up months after birth and it can last for years especially if untreated.
You realised that too? I thought the exact same thing when Lorraine started talking about how much she detested her son. The Bogeyman even reminded me of the Babadook in nature. A supernatural entity that forces its way into the mind of its mentally unstable prey and forces them to commit heinous acts. Expect mind you, I find The Park considerably creepier. No hate to The Babadook, it’s one of my favourite horror movies, but I think The Park is considerably creepier in both narrative and environment. It’s also WAYYY more messed up than the movie.
I saw the thumbnail of the video and even though I didn't watch it yet, I did see Daz check the game out last year. I remember seeing his reaction after seeing the park's mascot.
I can never say enough how much I love psychologically scary movies or games. This game was so dark but this kind of horror can happen to anyone minus the supernatural aspects and implications. I think I appreciated the fact that not everyone takes to parenthood like it's the best thing ever. Single mothers are often abandoned and neglected by the same system that claims to fight against child neglect and abortion of unwanted pregnancies. Not all children need to be with their mothers. I liked that the game didn't spell out for us Callum's fate. We know something horrible happened. Poor Lorraine was doomed from the start. It doesn't need to be explained but she definitely had severe post partum depression coupled with grief of losing her boyfriend, Don. Everyone that could have helped Lorraine absolutely failed her and some people even abandoned her with full on cruelty. Callum should have never been given back to his mother.
@@lindinle you can still feel bad for her through the failings of the mental health system, PPD is really serious and when left untreated can cause heartbreaking situations, a little empathy can go a long way.
@@appalachiabrauchfrau Yet you continue to pay no thought to her kid Callum while continuing to instead excuse her for everything she probably did (Murdering her child). While heaping blame on anyone and everyone one in an attempt to try and deflect blame off of her. "It wasn't her fault, it was societies!!!!" An excuse and reasoning that would not hold up under other situations and when used with other demographics and which when used also again callously ignores any pain and suffering for anyone and everyone that isn't Lorraine.
Thank you for covering this game. I played this a couple years ago. I was severely depressed and unemployed. I felt like I was alone, with nothing to my name. It was like a wake up call. The Park, and Getting Over It were both games that I guess inspired me to get my life together. Proud to say I’m in a better place. Thanks to games like this .
Loraine has not had the best life, being left by her mom and somewhat neglected as a kid, her husband had passed away during her pregnancy, and having a pretty bad money situation after the birth of her child. She also didn't get any help she need, leading her to do actions that are emphasized but not confirmed. Truly a sad and sympathetic character.
not really. Lorraine despair would led to the boogeyman getting empowered by it, the Park is a supernatural location tied to the "Dreamers", beings who are trapped in a another dimension of sorts, the filth is the "Creep" that won't go away
It's worth keeping in mind that the Atlantic Island Park in which the game takes place is a dungeon in the Secret World MMORPG, with the Bogeyman as a boss fight in that park. So even if a lot of the specific imagery and sequencing can be attributed to her deteriorating me talk state or hallucinations, the Bogeyman and the other stories about the supernatural at the park like the Crows and Mascot are actually true things that occured, as well as the story of Nathaniel Winters.
There's this book called "Regret maternel" or maternal regret written by a French woman. Basically, it describes how she experienced maternity and how if she were to get a do-over, she wouldn't have kids. She says she loves her child more than her own life and makes the distinction between not liking being a mother yet still love her child. Maternal regret is rather taboo. Being a mother and finding that well, you don't like it and that it wasn't for you after having a child is hard to talk about. Women who experience such emotions are shamed into silence. This game's protagonist, Lorraine, not only experiences post-partum depression (and maybe even post-partum psychosis) but maybe also maternal regret. It's not that she hates her son, she just doesn't like being a mother. The hypocrisy of western society in that regard is limitless and cruel. Motherhood is glorified to an unhealthy degree and rarely described for what it truly is. It is full of joys yes; but also sacrifices, compromises and constant giving while getting very little in return. Just like being a father is not for every man, being a mother is not for every woman. Yet we accept more readily that some men are not made for fatherhood and expect that all women are made for motherhood at the same time. I am the grandchild of a woman who definitively should *NOT* have had children. Of course it is because she did that I am here but I can still acknowledge that she was so not made for motherhood and how she screwed up her children mentally and emotionally. This game is genius in how it addresses those taboo issues of maternity, depression and regret. The cannibal metaphor I think can be interpreted in many ways. The one I favour is how Lorraine felt she was "devoured" by her role as a mother, devoured by her child and all the expectations laid on her. Expectations she was not ready for and never wanted in the first place. Motherhood really needs to be redefined, or rather just parenthood in general. The emotional charge on women's mind is just so heavy... The role and place of the father figure too needs to be re-thinked. Space for dialogue, emotional acknowledgment and validation is much needed. If only to spare future generation from experiencing the same traumas all over again.
That was a very insightful comment. As a man I have to admit everything you say is true, and since it doesnt really directly concern me or affect me (not being a woman and therefore not being able to be a mother) I have never thought about it before. But this helped me understand the pressure some women go through better. For the "modern" world we live in there is still way too much stigmata, stereotypes and social pressure in our society. For women and men alike. These bullshit hundreds of years old expectations and views we hold towards men and women are very toxic.
@@HalloTschuesspeople like you are so gullible These “traditions” aka practices are tried and tested methods which helped us to overcome and sometimes even subdue another group Of course some things may need to be changed but calling things that helped my group a toxic you are nothing but a vile venom
@@PaigeRobins-ky4qc Yet, some people will take the equality, even if it becomes true, as non-existent... Until only themselves have any sorts of rights. Take the anti-male feminists as an example. They won't stop until men don't have rights at all.
Callum should have stayed in foster care. Then he'd be safe and happy. Poor kid😥. Lorraine doesn't deserve her son. Im sorry for her, but to abuse her son is disgusting. I have a theory that she killed Callum like the witch in the Hansel and Gretel story. Maybe this was her way of saving him.
It’s funny how that’s how it is in real life, if a woman has obvious mental illnesses then the courts would still give the child to her but if a man has it then they have to jump through hoops just to see the child
@@biggiecheez4203 That's so messed up. So if the mom is a drug addict and abuses the kid, the courts will give them back with a smile on their faces but not the other more responsible parent? That makes no sense what so ever.
@@amterasutenma2547 I don’t know what they said because the comment is gone but it’s not like the kid had another parent to go to in this story. And irl the kid goes to the parent the court easily can prove is not on drugs and can provide for them and/or who the child wants to go with
@@Spooky_Platypus Oh. I don't know, jack, about the court process. I thought it was crooked and one-sided. Thank you for informing me on this mistake. Also BiggieCheez said it was that way.
All theories are valid. But I also want to point out that This game along with another called Moons of madness. Are tied to another MMO game called the Secret World. As the Bogy man and the park are part of the first "Issues" (Think comics) of the game. Which deals in the occult. I don't remember much of the lore for that area. But the Owner of the park and the Bogy Man are one in the same. Using the children to basically live forever and corrupting others. But obviously its easier to target those who already have their own demons. So Loraine is dealing with Depression and the like with the demonic Bogy man using it so he can get Callum's soul.
The Park makes more sense if you play the game it originated from: The Secret World/Secret World Legends. Although in Secret World, you aren't some hapless victim in Atlantic Island Park, you deliberately go there and fight the Bogeyman with all the firepower you have. It also confirms that the Park was not some hallucination or it was all in Lorraine's head. The Bogeyman is very much real and it's probably implied that Nathaniel Winters is the Bogeyman itself.
For me, I believe the boogie man and other stories is not real and is a urban legends where Lorrine lives. Lorrine's severe depression and mental instability had lead her to killing her own son and leaving him at the park. In her guilt, Lorrine imagined the boogie man was manipulating her. But she finally accepts the truth if her crimes and turned herself in
@@Genesiscoupe3000 Pointing out a character is canon as existing in a long-standing mmo in the same setting, in no way is trying to excuse real life violently ill people?
Nathaniel Winter is The Bogey Man. I think the beginning was the detective asking Lorraine where the last place she saw Callum was, but she was in a deluded state, so in her mind she saw the detective as the ticket taker asking where her son's teddy bear was. You didn't mention how the girl in the building jumpscares Lorraine after reading the note about Steve and the bumper car that charges Lorraine but then changes direction.
Actually Solomon Island where this park is located has a lot of streets named after horror writers, horror movies and horror literature. The name of a school is Innsmouth Academy , like the story of Shadow over Innsmouth
I honestly believe that Loraine imagined this all. That the whole park is just a representation of her mind. That her son was taken away because she did something bad, something very bad and the game is her broken mind trying to understand it all.
The story of this game is more satisfying when taken as a stand alone and read as an allegory for mental illness, addiction, trauma, post-partum psychosis, grief, etc. But "The Secret World" and "Carnival of Souls" confirm that the Bogeyman and curse are real and the amusement park is used to amplify and siphon emotions from visitors, allowing Winter to access some sort of dark power as said Bogeyman and grants him immortality. The illuminati even come into play at some point. I mean, holy cliché tropes Batman!
I had only ever watched markiplier play through of this game so I had a very take on this game. I thought that Lorraine with all her trauma killed callum but was actually chad herself and was killing people in the park. I’m glad to have watched this to get the full story and the bits that were missed
For those who don’t know the boogie man is from the secret world rpg he was killed by the players so atleast he never got away with his crimes he is also a man who became a monster feeding off the fear of children to stay immortal
I think it is important to know that this game ties in with "The Secret World" an mmo where you revisit the park and there actually is a demon haunting the place.
Yeah, I'd say that's the older method of electroconvulsive therapy as modern version of it are 1. only used as a last resort and 2. done on unconscious patients.
shes a good example of those parents who dont realize that they decided to have a kid, or keep one. it bugs me how parents become parents without knowing what it takes. parents who been thru it know. she is a great example of a villain in a game. she had motives against a child bc of how much work it was, and she blamed the kid instead of blaming herself for her own ignorance and ultimate violence.
I get what you mean, but there is also things like post partum depression and psychosis are things that can't always be predicted and getting proper help for them is a difficult task even when you do have money, which Lorraine clearly did not have. Obviously her actions are not excused by this explanation, but it is something to consider.
i have two theorys 1. was that she murdered callum and because of her loose grip on reality it came up with that whole story 2. is that the boogey-man is actully mr winters cause just look at the way hes dressed
Boogeyman is MR Winters transformed by absorbing the negative emotions of the visitors of the park and the laughter of children. The park is in fact a machine to keep Winters immortalized as the boogeyman
While the theories about this being grief/all in her mind, there is the Dev's other game The Secret World, in which The Boogeyman is a real being. So all of her hallucinations are true/based on her reality, but made even more vivid by the actual monster. Which is even more terrifying, dealing with an actual monster while being someone with serious mental issues.
so we know the witch is her mental health. she cares about calem, she talks about how she feels like they are hansel and grettle. she feels like it’s them against the world. but there money and mental state kept getting in her way. (in her mind) she became abusive and abrasive at times, and that part of her was the witch. which she also directly states but it is also heavily implied it’s also implied her parents are abusive, part of the boogeyman is torturing kids into good behavior. i think she becomes even more guilty of her being voilent to her kid, because it happens to her. she felt weak. she killed her son, ate him and then said he went missing. the boogeyman did haunt the place, i do believe that. i think she also started drinking i don’t think she remembers the killing part. JUST that his son got lost. i think she keeps coming back to the park even years later (why the park is now abandoned and we see the first time she lost her son vs now. plus the context clue line about her always coming back to the park. i think this is years later the ordeal and she forgets and remembers things until during this visit, she remembers everything and relieves what she did
Interesting how when she discovers the replica of the house her and Don lived in, she refers to Callum as "his" [Don's] son. Not "our" son. This pretty clearly reflects her detachment from Callum. That he isn't part of her. That he isn't something she feels innate desire to care for. It oddly paralleled the note Loraine's mother wrote to her. About Loraine being more "his" daughter than hers.
To get the full picture you need to look into the original horror MMO this game split off from, the park area and the boogey man are both in the game with the Boogey Man acting as a boss enemy, you can even find a note from Loraine somewhere in the game.
I don't know if this is just a coincidence or not, but the fact that the the mention of Dunwich in the medical services implies a possible Lovecraft/cosmic horror implications to the story. While this isn't in the same universe, in Fallout 3 and 4 there are two locations with some supernatural things going on that have the name Dunwich in them (Dunwich Building in FO3 and Dunwich Quarry in FO4), the fact that name shows up here is something. Also the fact that the Dunwich emergency services seemed to let a mentally unstable person out and get their kid back seems suspicious, like they were working with the monster/Nathan, or at the very least inflenced by something greater. Also the shirt that Calum is wearing at the end has Cthulu on it for fucks sake. Basically there's a real possibility that there's elements of H.P. Lovecraft/cosmic horror responsible for the events of the game and what happened at the park itself.
The game itself was a good watch. Next to the horror aspects, I actually got creeped out by certain details I connected that may provide a further backstory to the Park founder Nathaniel Winter. First, he was adamant on building the Park on apparantly cursed grounds, which already is strange. Then we learned he kidnapped kids from the Park and "extracted" their emotions, seemingly feeding off of their energy. Since he purposely chose a cursed place and used children, my mind immediately went to rituals regarding black magic. Another hint was the mention of "immortality" which can be interpreted from an entity perspective (food from negativity/strong emotions) or a person (I rather not go into too much detail here because it is f*cked up enough), it was then mentioned that a "mob" hunted down Nathaniel Winter. If we consider the possibility of his crimes against children, this reaction makes sense enough for people seeking justice, especially if the owner was most likely a powerful and influential individual who was protected by the state despite his crimes. Otherwise the Justice system would have dealt with him, not regular people. After he died, his evil deeds turned him into an evil entity himself who, in order to keep existing, relied on people like Laurene with strong negativity (food) and children (to continue with his sick desires).
I did a playthrough of this, and after I got to the end, I logged into The Secret World, the MMO this spun off from and beat the crap out of the Bogeyman for catharsis. He's not so tough when you have a shotgun.
Something that took me a while to notice is how the person that is interrogating Lorraine at the end had a bee on a bottle. This was in order to confirm if Lorraine had the blessing of the bees and had acquired demi god like powers, Similar to how your character on The Secret World / Secret World Legends gets their powers. Which could mean he is a recruiter for one of the 3 organizations… The Illuminati, The Templars or The Dragons
@Spookylilgirl well you see I get soda cans, melt them down on a forge, then I heat up the ingot and pass it through a rolling mill press, then when its thin enough I make them in cone shape lol
I saw Markiplier played this years ago and I assumed that she blamed Callum for all misfortunes that happened to her ever since he was born. Everything was a retelling of how it all started up until the point she couldn't take it and took matters to her own hands. After that, she filed a missing persons report and started recalling the events right from the beginning (with details she left out, of course).
The ending being left ambiguous is an excellent statement, because it truly doesn't matter whether or not the factors were Supernatural. At the end of the day, there's a child gone, a mother grieving, and anyone who hears the story will form their own opinions in lieu of facts.
The part where he explains about Loraine (I think that's her name, I already forgot after 5 seconds of hearing it) thinking about her thinking of Calum and her as Hansel and Grettle felt like what I do when I have to write a 5 paragraph essay. Kind of
Bought this on my nintendo switch last night didn't take long to beat but was a very eerie intriguing story. Half of the time it feels like your on Lorraines drugs walking around an abandoned park falling apart. I think Lorraine quit taking her pills and was growing very irritated with her son having mental health issues and just wanting to get rid of him. I think he ran away from home(to get away from his abusive mother) to the place his dad was last at before he died( the park) or Lorraine was playing hide and seek with him at the abandoned park(hence why Callum kept saying come find me) and the chipmunk dude was still living there in the house of horrors. Having read the newspaper articles and concluded that a lot of tragedies have happened here, Lorraine takes this into consideration. The chipmunk dude killed him and Lorraine knows it so she goes to the cops and is having mixed feelings about it somewhat feeling guilty and trying to plant false memories to help her feel better and cope with it hence why she stabs him in her recollected memory because she feels like a bad mother.
So, I agree that she suffered from postnatal depression. However, I don't believe the memory loss was from possession or manipulation by the boogeyman. Memory loss is a well established side effect of electroconvulsive therapy...
Lorraine is a character i can't be sympathetic towards, she's resentful towards her son, who is the ONLY remaining memory of her husband. And at some point in the game, you find a dead body of a man behind a building with a axe on the wall. I think it's implied she killed this employee who wanted to check on her since she's been in there for a while, she's also wearing a hatchet necklace, which i think is a implication that she is the one who killed her own son, everything we see was in her mind, she snapped.
Dunwich... Nothing good ever comes from being tied to the Lovecraft universe of eldritch abominations, cosmic horror gods, and insanity inducing scenarios.
I have played this game completely few years ago. I'm glad you covered this especially those articles that I just picked up to tl;dr out of it. Thank you, I felt that sadness on how it end all over again
Lorraine would be a great killer in dead by daylight Her whole gimmick could be having slabs in the basement that sacrifice survivors automatically after like a minute or two when they’re placed upon them and not rescued within the time limit Her weapon is obviously an icepick and her personal ability makes nearby survivors scream or something She could be called the bogeyman And she could have like a scarecrow motif Another idea for her ability would grabbing people somehow slowing them down and bringing them towards her similar to death slinger but a little bit of cenobite mixed in
I think Nathaniel is the bogeyman. The land corrupting him, making him do things and turning him in what he is today. It explains a lot and in this shot right here, you can see the bogeyman has the same hair has Nathaniel 26:22
As a single mom with anxiety, depression and insomnia. This hit me like an RKO. This game should be shown to a lot of women and young girls. Mental health is no joke
I mean, if you’re a single mom cause you didn’t marry and slept around, that’s your own fault. But if your husband dies or something, they should get help.
@@zerotodona1495 moms and dads should get help either way. Majority of why single moms exist is because men never are held responsible or responsible for the children they create even when they are in the homes lol. But you’re going to say I’m wrong 🤷♀️ idc get a vasectomy
I think Lorraine abused and killed her son. There are somany references to Hansl&Gretl, the mother in that story is not kind and does not want her children. Also, in the end she says that in the original story the mother and the witch are both the same person 🤷♀️ With all the references to canibalism too I wonder if she actuallly ate him too 😅 Since she says her heart and head go to the park, I imagine she went to the park after she had already killed her son where she came accross the bogeyman/Mr Winters and she was chasing her son’s ghost. Not accepting that he was already gone by her own hand. Even the bogeyman says that Callum had fallen in the hands of the witch (=the mother) 🤔
I hate to break it to you buddy but unfortunately due to what's happening in the United States certain states have ban abortion completely. To the point where you can go to jail even if you have a miscarriage. Also I know you mean well but this kind of spits in the face of certain victims of abuse.
@@dreamhubproductions753 i hate to break it to you buddy, but unfortunately, i wasn't talking about abortion at all. never even brought it up once. if you can't become a parent.. THEN FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO WITH YOUR LIFE, and take "intimacy" out of your daily life! i am talking about strengthening one's body and mind, leaving intercourse away. also ... "THE WORLD" =/= the us. the us is merely but a single nation sharing 2 other nations with the North American continent. Canada to the north and Mexico to the south. Denmark to the utmost north and to the north west Alaska. the "us" is NOT the world. so if you can't control what you can and can't do in a single "nation" you still have 194 nations to go for. why why limit yourself to the "self proclaimed [i am planet earth all of it]"? can't abort in our "TINY LITTLE VILLAGE" you can go to: China, Mexico, Argentina, Poland, Slovakia, Thailand, Canada, The United Kingdom, Australia, Belgium. if a single nation with "self deifying above all else complex disorder" VISIT *THE WORLD* my personal point stood at "if you can't stand having kids, ABANDON INTERCOURSE ALTOGETHER!" intimacy IS NOT essential. and you can live without it. intimacy is over rated. that's all.
@@dreamhubproductions753 You don't go to jail for having a natural miscarriage. You only go to jail if you caused the miscarriage like using drugs and what not. Also just because some don't want a child doesn't mean they're automatically going to be abused. They are plenty of parents who wanted kids and abuse them. Abortion isn't going to stop child abuse.
So I’m guessing that this was one big allegory for her killing her son, stylized in a way where she tried to justify her murder by a supernatural entity forcing her to. The police interrogation we see at the end likely ended with her being arrested for murdering her son.
Just finished this game for the second time. I had somehow forgotten it the first time, finished in one sitting and yeah, it messed with my sanity a bit, but enough to stay in control. Like a mental thrill vs. a physical thrill. So many interpretations of this story I'm seeing here in the comments.
The Boogeyman sounds more like a scapegoat of sorts. Blaming everything on some supernatural force to avoid responsibility and/or involvement. People are quick to point fingers at others beside themselves.
I swear, if the devs of these damn walking simulators hadn't made video games, then they would have turned these walking simulators into unnoteworthy young adult novels.
I know people are focusing on lorraine mental problems but Believe me, the Park is set in the universe of secret worlds. Nathaniel winters is the boss in the secret worlds legends MMO, you even get to visit the park for it. he is the boogeyman that you can fight for him And Lorraine died in secret world legends, but the player is able to repair the bee (Which is Gaia's ultimate move to give people a chance to save the world), but time will tell if lorraine can accept callum death and Join Gaia quest to seal the Dreamers.
Havent watched the video all the way yet but I remember watching either markiplier or jacksepticeye play this and the ending confused me. So I looked it up and idr if it was canon or just a theory but I read that the squirrel mascot was like a child killer or something disguising himself as the mascot or something like that. And while the mom was drunk or sleeping on the couch or both, Callum went out with friends and was attacked and killed by the child killer squirrel. So now she lives with that regret and stuff. Something like that idr. It's been forever. It's funny how this showed up in my recommended because I've been thinking about this game a lot but couldn't remember the name of it.
This is an amazing game , I really liked playing this.she had schizophrenia. And killed her son. Everything was in her head. I loved the Boogeyman element on each ride . Jumpscare the first time after this you anticipate his appearance. The end is trippy and very sad.
Wow. Loraine's outlook on how "her child owes her everything" is so ass-backwards. The child didn't choose to come into this world, the parents decided to bring the child into the world. Parents owe everything to their children simply for that fact. She's really facing down some severe postpartum depression topped off with a crisis in existentialism. I'm very curious for how this one unfolds.
This game is connected to another, Secret World, where you can find many answers about this story, for example Nathaniel Winters is the Boogie Man, not controlled by it
Hey! I saw Daz play that game last year in his gaming channel. I'm surprised you decided to do a video on it eight hours ago by the time I post this comment.
I believe that all the game till the end was all just parts of the main character's deteriorating mental health, especially with how the man behind the ticket booth or whatever was a police officer asking her where her son was and said also the exact same thing in the beginning. Also, I think it is greatly hinted at that she killed her own son with how near the end it was show her sacrificed her son.
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We didn't exactly see a body did we? Maybe the Little boy Got away... maybe it was all in her head?
I believe Loraine is suffering from postpartum depression right after the birth of callum, this explains why she leaves callum alone in the car and why she was so unresponsive to the cop as well. On top of her preexisting mental health issues
Oh most definitely she was suffering from it, since she had no support system it was hard for her to do anything, especially bonding with her son. I think due to her never really bonding with him she grew to dispise him. I theorize that her mom also had postpartum depression, and that's why it was so east for her to leave. Sadly I think that if Loraine left Callum in fostercare I think it may have been better for the both of them
@@babygurleatsshickennuggits4201 I agree.
Probably. But iirc, the other games set in this universe confirms that all the supernatural stuff is real and Winter uses the park to siphon emotions in order to give him power and immortality. Some people have their negative emotions amplified and that's what's going on with Lorraine. Winter, as the Bogeyman, drove her to kill Callum so he could further feed off her despair.
@@K.Marie119 Good point
@Kirsten Marie I don't think it took much convincing on her part to do so. I felt bad for her up until it seemed like she might kill him. I don't understand how someone isn't able to love their child, it doesn't make sense to me. But I understand her pain and turmoil towards that she doesn't love him, I wish the worse for her. Winter gave her the ice pick and held onto her as it went down, but he never forced her to kill Callum. He moved away and she did it anyway. He did have to nudge her very much, but she still made that choice herself.
one of the first signs this is fishy is the fact that callum got into the park...while the gates were locked.
Right? I was about to write this
I KNOW RIGHT! the casheer knowing Loraine i can accept that, she said she comes back there often, but him saying "you son Just Got in, i'll unlock the door" thats not a red flag, THATS A STOP SIGN
Indeed.🏮
@@heartlessnobody1143my thoughts exactly.🛑
Whaddya mean that’s a stop sign? I’m confused
I think this might be obvious but I think callum was the kid found behind the cotton candy machine. With the themes of the games and characters seemingly snapping before the murders I don’t think the boogie man is real I think Lorraine just snapped one day and killed callum which is why she keeps going back to the park and why Hansel and Gretel keep coming up. The story is told through her perspective and her mind is deteriorating, she probably just snapped one day and killed her kid and she’s using the “park curse” to justify losing 2 people to the park
In the universe that The Park is set in, the boogie man does exist and in another game (Secret World Legends) set in the same universe you get to meet him.
Yeh I think the same thing.
@Confusing Zark look bro I haven’t played the game all I know is from this video I appreciate you and the other commenter letting me know
@confusingzarkthe boogieman is actually Mr winter and the reason why I wrote mr winter it’s because I don’t know how to spell his first name
The thing I love about this game is it seems supernatural but is really just all in Lorraine’s head
This reminds me of the movie The Babadook. Postnatal depression can lead to psychosis and that is a darkness that consume a person’s mind. Most don’t realize that severe instances can of Postnatal depression can show up months after birth and it can last for years especially if untreated.
exactly my thoughts
You realised that too? I thought the exact same thing when Lorraine started talking about how much she detested her son. The Bogeyman even reminded me of the Babadook in nature. A supernatural entity that forces its way into the mind of its mentally unstable prey and forces them to commit heinous acts. Expect mind you, I find The Park considerably creepier. No hate to The Babadook, it’s one of my favourite horror movies, but I think The Park is considerably creepier in both narrative and environment. It’s also WAYYY more messed up than the movie.
Me too.🧸👺👹🎃👻
@@Cheetahgirl_Studiosindeed.👺👹🎃👻🧸
omfg I remember seeing markiplier playing this game and being so confused by the ending
LEGIT SAME!!! The end was pretty chilling and ominous.. but so sad at the same time
Ah, the memories.
LoL I thought I was the only one 😅
His reaction was the best
I saw the thumbnail of the video and even though I didn't watch it yet, I did see Daz check the game out last year. I remember seeing his reaction after seeing the park's mascot.
I can never say enough how much I love psychologically scary movies or games. This game was so dark but this kind of horror can happen to anyone minus the supernatural aspects and implications. I think I appreciated the fact that not everyone takes to parenthood like it's the best thing ever. Single mothers are often abandoned and neglected by the same system that claims to fight against child neglect and abortion of unwanted pregnancies. Not all children need to be with their mothers. I liked that the game didn't spell out for us Callum's fate. We know something horrible happened.
Poor Lorraine was doomed from the start. It doesn't need to be explained but she definitely had severe post partum depression coupled with grief of losing her boyfriend, Don. Everyone that could have helped Lorraine absolutely failed her and some people even abandoned her with full on cruelty. Callum should have never been given back to his mother.
Poor Lorraine is the last thing to come to my mind. Its poor callum lets beat his evil mom half to death or more.
My thoughts exactly.💭🧸🍷🍾
@@lindinle🙏🫂
@@lindinle you can still feel bad for her through the failings of the mental health system, PPD is really serious and when left untreated can cause heartbreaking situations, a little empathy can go a long way.
@@appalachiabrauchfrau Yet you continue to pay no thought to her kid Callum while continuing to instead excuse her for everything she probably did (Murdering her child). While heaping blame on anyone and everyone one in an attempt to try and deflect blame off of her. "It wasn't her fault, it was societies!!!!" An excuse and reasoning that would not hold up under other situations and when used with other demographics and which when used also again callously ignores any pain and suffering for anyone and everyone that isn't Lorraine.
Thank you for covering this game. I played this a couple years ago. I was severely depressed and unemployed. I felt like I was alone, with nothing to my name. It was like a wake up call. The Park, and Getting Over It were both games that I guess inspired me to get my life together. Proud to say I’m in a better place. Thanks to games like this .
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I feel so sorry for Calum:(
Yea, he loved his mom even after all she did
The voice acting for Lorraine is very well done
Loraine has not had the best life, being left by her mom and somewhat neglected as a kid, her husband had passed away during her pregnancy, and having a pretty bad money situation after the birth of her child. She also didn't get any help she need, leading her to do actions that are emphasized but not confirmed. Truly a sad and sympathetic character.
??? Nah we good on that lil bro
not really.
Lorraine despair would led to the boogeyman getting empowered by it, the Park is a supernatural location tied to the "Dreamers", beings who are trapped in a another dimension of sorts, the filth is the "Creep" that won't go away
It's worth keeping in mind that the Atlantic Island Park in which the game takes place is a dungeon in the Secret World MMORPG, with the Bogeyman as a boss fight in that park. So even if a lot of the specific imagery and sequencing can be attributed to her deteriorating me talk state or hallucinations, the Bogeyman and the other stories about the supernatural at the park like the Crows and Mascot are actually true things that occured, as well as the story of Nathaniel Winters.
There's this book called "Regret maternel" or maternal regret written by a French woman. Basically, it describes how she experienced maternity and how if she were to get a do-over, she wouldn't have kids. She says she loves her child more than her own life and makes the distinction between not liking being a mother yet still love her child.
Maternal regret is rather taboo. Being a mother and finding that well, you don't like it and that it wasn't for you after having a child is hard to talk about. Women who experience such emotions are shamed into silence. This game's protagonist, Lorraine, not only experiences post-partum depression (and maybe even post-partum psychosis) but maybe also maternal regret. It's not that she hates her son, she just doesn't like being a mother.
The hypocrisy of western society in that regard is limitless and cruel. Motherhood is glorified to an unhealthy degree and rarely described for what it truly is. It is full of joys yes; but also sacrifices, compromises and constant giving while getting very little in return. Just like being a father is not for every man, being a mother is not for every woman. Yet we accept more readily that some men are not made for fatherhood and expect that all women are made for motherhood at the same time. I am the grandchild of a woman who definitively should *NOT* have had children. Of course it is because she did that I am here but I can still acknowledge that she was so not made for motherhood and how she screwed up her children mentally and emotionally.
This game is genius in how it addresses those taboo issues of maternity, depression and regret. The cannibal metaphor I think can be interpreted in many ways. The one I favour is how Lorraine felt she was "devoured" by her role as a mother, devoured by her child and all the expectations laid on her. Expectations she was not ready for and never wanted in the first place.
Motherhood really needs to be redefined, or rather just parenthood in general. The emotional charge on women's mind is just so heavy... The role and place of the father figure too needs to be re-thinked. Space for dialogue, emotional acknowledgment and validation is much needed. If only to spare future generation from experiencing the same traumas all over again.
That was a very insightful comment. As a man I have to admit everything you say is true, and since it doesnt really directly concern me or affect me (not being a woman and therefore not being able to be a mother) I have never thought about it before. But this helped me understand the pressure some women go through better.
For the "modern" world we live in there is still way too much stigmata, stereotypes and social pressure in our society. For women and men alike.
These bullshit hundreds of years old expectations and views we hold towards men and women are very toxic.
My thoughts exactly.💭🫂
@@HalloTschuessI think so too people should be treated equally.🫂
@@HalloTschuesspeople like you are so gullible
These “traditions” aka practices are tried and tested methods which helped us to overcome and sometimes even subdue another group
Of course some things may need to be changed but calling things that helped my group a toxic you are nothing but a vile venom
@@PaigeRobins-ky4qc Yet, some people will take the equality, even if it becomes true, as non-existent... Until only themselves have any sorts of rights.
Take the anti-male feminists as an example. They won't stop until men don't have rights at all.
Callum should have stayed in foster care. Then he'd be safe and happy. Poor kid😥.
Lorraine doesn't deserve her son. Im sorry for her, but to abuse her son is disgusting. I have a theory that she killed Callum like the witch in the Hansel and Gretel story. Maybe this was her way of saving him.
It’s funny how that’s how it is in real life, if a woman has obvious mental illnesses then the courts would still give the child to her but if a man has it then they have to jump through hoops just to see the child
@@biggiecheez4203 That's so messed up. So if the mom is a drug addict and abuses the kid, the courts will give them back with a smile on their faces but not the other more responsible parent? That makes no sense what so ever.
@@amterasutenma2547 I don’t know what they said because the comment is gone but it’s not like the kid had another parent to go to in this story. And irl the kid goes to the parent the court easily can prove is not on drugs and can provide for them and/or who the child wants to go with
@@Spooky_Platypus Oh. I don't know, jack, about the court process. I thought it was crooked and one-sided. Thank you for informing me on this mistake. Also BiggieCheez said it was that way.
Foster care would be the best for the both of them
All theories are valid. But I also want to point out that This game along with another called Moons of madness. Are tied to another MMO game called the Secret World. As the Bogy man and the park are part of the first "Issues" (Think comics) of the game. Which deals in the occult.
I don't remember much of the lore for that area. But the Owner of the park and the Bogy Man are one in the same. Using the children to basically live forever and corrupting others. But obviously its easier to target those who already have their own demons. So Loraine is dealing with Depression and the like with the demonic Bogy man using it so he can get Callum's soul.
I have to say, as a medical-type, the doctors note at 24:50 is the funniest thing I've seen in a while.
*Dr. Malpractice AWAY*
The Park makes more sense if you play the game it originated from: The Secret World/Secret World Legends. Although in Secret World, you aren't some hapless victim in Atlantic Island Park, you deliberately go there and fight the Bogeyman with all the firepower you have. It also confirms that the Park was not some hallucination or it was all in Lorraine's head. The Bogeyman is very much real and it's probably implied that Nathaniel Winters is the Bogeyman itself.
For me, I believe the boogie man and other stories is not real and is a urban legends where Lorrine lives.
Lorrine's severe depression and mental instability had lead her to killing her own son and leaving him at the park. In her guilt, Lorrine imagined the boogie man was manipulating her.
But she finally accepts the truth if her crimes and turned herself in
Its not though. The boogeyman is real in that world. You can even fight him in the same amusement Park in the MMO „The secret world“
@@reaperleviathan4726
In that game he is still all in the crazy mind.
Stop trying to give excuses for mentally crazy lunatics and their crazy acts!
@@Genesiscoupe3000 in games, you cant just say its all a hallucination.
@@Genesiscoupe3000 Pointing out a character is canon as existing in a long-standing mmo in the same setting, in no way is trying to excuse real life violently ill people?
@@Genesiscoupe3000 bro it's just a game
Nathaniel Winter is The Bogey Man. I think the beginning was the detective asking Lorraine where the last place she saw Callum was, but she was in a deluded state, so in her mind she saw the detective as the ticket taker asking where her son's teddy bear was. You didn't mention how the girl in the building jumpscares Lorraine after reading the note about Steve and the bumper car that charges Lorraine but then changes direction.
Just want to point out the doctor's note said Dunwich, as in Dunwich Horror H.P Lovecraft. The son is wearing a Cathulu shirt. There's your spirits.
Actually Solomon Island where this park is located has a lot of streets named after horror writers, horror movies and horror literature.
The name of a school is Innsmouth Academy , like the story of Shadow over Innsmouth
I honestly believe that Loraine imagined this all. That the whole park is just a representation of her mind. That her son was taken away because she did something bad, something very bad and the game is her broken mind trying to understand it all.
My thoughts exactly.💭🧸🍾🍷
She didn’t. This is part of the Secret World game universe, she was being manipulated by Winters and his negative enegery
The story of this game is more satisfying when taken as a stand alone and read as an allegory for mental illness, addiction, trauma, post-partum psychosis, grief, etc. But "The Secret World" and "Carnival of Souls" confirm that the Bogeyman and curse are real and the amusement park is used to amplify and siphon emotions from visitors, allowing Winter to access some sort of dark power as said Bogeyman and grants him immortality. The illuminati even come into play at some point.
I mean, holy cliché tropes Batman!
Seriously, We have enough stories about some guy trying to become immortal by using supernatural spirits and/or dead kids.
@@Lechgang we need a story about an immortal guy who wants to die and to accomplish it he will seek help from a group of 30 year old polish alcoholics
@@ikaiju-eu9wn that's suspiciously specific
@@foxsecret it is, but I’m still down for it
@@ikaiju-eu9wn that would be interesting to see
I had only ever watched markiplier play through of this game so I had a very take on this game. I thought that Lorraine with all her trauma killed callum but was actually chad herself and was killing people in the park. I’m glad to have watched this to get the full story and the bits that were missed
For those who don’t know the boogie man is from the secret world rpg he was killed by the players so atleast he never got away with his crimes he is also a man who became a monster feeding off the fear of children to stay immortal
I think it is important to know that this game ties in with "The Secret World" an mmo where you revisit the park and there actually is a demon haunting the place.
Yeah, I'd say that's the older method of electroconvulsive therapy as modern version of it are 1. only used as a last resort and 2. done on unconscious patients.
shes a good example of those parents who dont realize that they decided to have a kid, or keep one. it bugs me how parents become parents without knowing what it takes. parents who been thru it know. she is a great example of a villain in a game. she had motives against a child bc of how much work it was, and she blamed the kid instead of blaming herself for her own ignorance and ultimate violence.
I get what you mean, but there is also things like post partum depression and psychosis are things that can't always be predicted and getting proper help for them is a difficult task even when you do have money, which Lorraine clearly did not have.
Obviously her actions are not excused by this explanation, but it is something to consider.
i have two theorys 1. was that she murdered callum and because of her loose grip on reality it came up with that whole story 2. is that the boogey-man is actully mr winters cause just look at the way hes dressed
The 2nd one is correct
Boogeyman is MR Winters transformed by absorbing the negative emotions of the visitors of the park and the laughter of children.
The park is in fact a machine to keep Winters immortalized as the boogeyman
While the theories about this being grief/all in her mind, there is the Dev's other game The Secret World, in which The Boogeyman is a real being.
So all of her hallucinations are true/based on her reality, but made even more vivid by the actual monster.
Which is even more terrifying, dealing with an actual monster while being someone with serious mental issues.
so we know the witch is her mental health. she cares about calem, she talks about how she feels like they are hansel and grettle. she feels like it’s them against the world. but there money and mental state kept getting in her way. (in her mind) she became abusive and abrasive at times, and that part of her was the witch. which she also directly states but it is also heavily implied
it’s also implied her parents are abusive, part of the boogeyman is torturing kids into good behavior. i think she becomes even more guilty of her being voilent to her kid, because it happens to her. she felt weak.
she killed her son, ate him and then said he went missing.
the boogeyman did haunt the place, i do believe that.
i think she also started drinking
i don’t think she remembers the killing part. JUST that his son got lost. i think she keeps coming back to the park even years later (why the park is now abandoned and we see the first time she lost her son vs now. plus the context clue line about her always coming back to the park. i think this is years later the ordeal and she forgets and remembers things until during this visit, she remembers everything and relieves what she did
Indeed.🧸🍾👩👦🤰🤱🫄
Interesting how when she discovers the replica of the house her and Don lived in, she refers to Callum as "his" [Don's] son. Not "our" son. This pretty clearly reflects her detachment from Callum. That he isn't part of her. That he isn't something she feels innate desire to care for.
It oddly paralleled the note Loraine's mother wrote to her. About Loraine being more "his" daughter than hers.
To get the full picture you need to look into the original horror MMO this game split off from, the park area and the boogey man are both in the game with the Boogey Man acting as a boss enemy, you can even find a note from Loraine somewhere in the game.
I don't know if this is just a coincidence or not, but the fact that the the mention of Dunwich in the medical services implies a possible Lovecraft/cosmic horror implications to the story. While this isn't in the same universe, in Fallout 3 and 4 there are two locations with some supernatural things going on that have the name Dunwich in them (Dunwich Building in FO3 and Dunwich Quarry in FO4), the fact that name shows up here is something. Also the fact that the Dunwich emergency services seemed to let a mentally unstable person out and get their kid back seems suspicious, like they were working with the monster/Nathan, or at the very least inflenced by something greater.
Also the shirt that Calum is wearing at the end has Cthulu on it for fucks sake. Basically there's a real possibility that there's elements of H.P. Lovecraft/cosmic horror responsible for the events of the game and what happened at the park itself.
Actually this is a tie-in game with The Secret World, in which the Lovecraft mythos is canon.
The game itself was a good watch. Next to the horror aspects, I actually got creeped out by certain details I connected that may provide a further backstory to the Park founder Nathaniel Winter. First, he was adamant on building the Park on apparantly cursed grounds, which already is strange. Then we learned he kidnapped kids from the Park and "extracted" their emotions, seemingly feeding off of their energy. Since he purposely chose a cursed place and used children, my mind immediately went to rituals regarding black magic. Another hint was the mention of "immortality" which can be interpreted from an entity perspective (food from negativity/strong emotions) or a person (I rather not go into too much detail here because it is f*cked up enough), it was then mentioned that a "mob" hunted down Nathaniel Winter. If we consider the possibility of his crimes against children, this reaction makes sense enough for people seeking justice, especially if the owner was most likely a powerful and influential individual who was protected by the state despite his crimes. Otherwise the Justice system would have dealt with him, not regular people. After he died, his evil deeds turned him into an evil entity himself who, in order to keep existing, relied on people like Laurene with strong negativity (food) and children (to continue with his sick desires).
I did a playthrough of this, and after I got to the end, I logged into The Secret World, the MMO this spun off from and beat the crap out of the Bogeyman for catharsis. He's not so tough when you have a shotgun.
Nice to see you still being great!
Something that took me a while to notice is how the person that is interrogating Lorraine at the end had a bee on a bottle. This was in order to confirm if Lorraine had the blessing of the bees and had acquired demi god like powers, Similar to how your character on The Secret World / Secret World Legends gets their powers. Which could mean he is a recruiter for one of the 3 organizations… The Illuminati, The Templars or The Dragons
@Jimmy Jim only when I look pretty and the occasion calls for it :)
@Spookylilgirl well you see I get soda cans, melt them down on a forge, then I heat up the ingot and pass it through a rolling mill press, then when its thin enough I make them in cone shape lol
@Spookylilgirl that’s a good way too!
I saw Markiplier played this years ago and I assumed that she blamed Callum for all misfortunes that happened to her ever since he was born.
Everything was a retelling of how it all started up until the point she couldn't take it and took matters to her own hands.
After that, she filed a missing persons report and started recalling the events right from the beginning (with details she left out, of course).
My thoughts exactly.💭🧸🍾🍷
The ending being left ambiguous is an excellent statement, because it truly doesn't matter whether or not the factors were Supernatural. At the end of the day, there's a child gone, a mother grieving, and anyone who hears the story will form their own opinions in lieu of facts.
The part where he explains about Loraine (I think that's her name, I already forgot after 5 seconds of hearing it) thinking about her thinking of Calum and her as Hansel and Grettle felt like what I do when I have to write a 5 paragraph essay. Kind of
a mom will never think about her child like that
sure they will, PPD is not uncommon.
Man this is a certified classic. I remember markiplier’s playthrough of the park from day 1
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Bought this on my nintendo switch last night didn't take long to beat but was a very eerie intriguing story. Half of the time it feels like your on Lorraines drugs walking around an abandoned park falling apart. I think Lorraine quit taking her pills and was growing very irritated with her son having mental health issues and just wanting to get rid of him. I think he ran away from home(to get away from his abusive mother) to the place his dad was last at before he died( the park) or Lorraine was playing hide and seek with him at the abandoned park(hence why Callum kept saying come find me) and the chipmunk dude was still living there in the house of horrors. Having read the newspaper articles and concluded that a lot of tragedies have happened here, Lorraine takes this into consideration. The chipmunk dude killed him and Lorraine knows it so she goes to the cops and is having mixed feelings about it somewhat feeling guilty and trying to plant false memories to help her feel better and cope with it hence why she stabs him in her recollected memory because she feels like a bad mother.
"Willy Walken" is the early 00's SNL skit I didn't know I needed until this moment.
I can already tell what his best-selling candy would be: gummy BEARS!
Needs more Cowbell
So, I agree that she suffered from postnatal depression. However, I don't believe the memory loss was from possession or manipulation by the boogeyman. Memory loss is a well established side effect of electroconvulsive therapy...
Lorraine is a character i can't be sympathetic towards, she's resentful towards her son, who is the ONLY remaining memory of her husband. And at some point in the game, you find a dead body of a man behind a building with a axe on the wall. I think it's implied she killed this employee who wanted to check on her since she's been in there for a while, she's also wearing a hatchet necklace, which i think is a implication that she is the one who killed her own son, everything we see was in her mind, she snapped.
This feels like an even darker version of the Babadook. I love it
19:00 This is the second note from the game to mention "Dunwich". I gotta say I wasn't expecting this game to include a Lovecraft reference.
AM I the only one who things the Boogie Man is Nathanial? They looks very similar and seems to make the park a trap.
WOW this is old. I think this is one of the first videos I saw from Markiplier
Sidenote: the transitions between him growing out his facial hair to him being baby faced is pleasing :3
Dunwich... Nothing good ever comes from being tied to the Lovecraft universe of eldritch abominations, cosmic horror gods, and insanity inducing scenarios.
I have played this game completely few years ago. I'm glad you covered this especially those articles that I just picked up to tl;dr out of it. Thank you, I felt that sadness on how it end all over again
This is basically Post-Partum Psychosis: The Game.
Lorraine would be a great killer in dead by daylight
Her whole gimmick could be having slabs in the basement that sacrifice survivors automatically after like a minute or two when they’re placed upon them and not rescued within the time limit
Her weapon is obviously an icepick and her personal ability makes nearby survivors scream or something
She could be called the bogeyman
And she could have like a scarecrow motif
Another idea for her ability would grabbing people somehow slowing them down and bringing them towards her similar to death slinger but a little bit of cenobite mixed in
I think Nathaniel is the bogeyman. The land corrupting him, making him do things and turning him in what he is today. It explains a lot and in this shot right here, you can see the bogeyman has the same hair has Nathaniel 26:22
I didn’t expect cannibalism in this game but, I don’t like where this is going
As a single mom with anxiety, depression and insomnia. This hit me like an RKO. This game should be shown to a lot of women and young girls. Mental health is no joke
I mean, if you’re a single mom cause you didn’t marry and slept around, that’s your own fault.
But if your husband dies or something, they should get help.
@@zerotodona1495 do you have kids and if so do you take care of them? How often do you see them ?
@@zerotodona1495 moms and dads should get help either way. Majority of why single moms exist is because men never are held responsible or responsible for the children they create even when they are in the homes lol. But you’re going to say I’m wrong 🤷♀️ idc get a vasectomy
@@zerotodona1495 yeah cause it ain't the fault of the man who impregnated her 🙄🙄
What About The bug!? The Bee In The Jar!!! It's Keeping Me Up at night, I Need to Know. I Haven't Slept, Please!!!
I think Lorraine abused and killed her son. There are somany references to Hansl&Gretl, the mother in that story is not kind and does not want her children. Also, in the end she says that in the original story the mother and the witch are both the same person 🤷♀️ With all the references to canibalism too I wonder if she actuallly ate him too 😅 Since she says her heart and head go to the park, I imagine she went to the park after she had already killed her son where she came accross the bogeyman/Mr Winters and she was chasing her son’s ghost. Not accepting that he was already gone by her own hand. Even the bogeyman says that Callum had fallen in the hands of the witch (=the mother) 🤔
Interesting theory.💡🧸🍾👩👦🤰🤱🫄
I played this game, it was nuts, great video!
if you aren't ready to be a parent, do not become a parent.
if you can't handle parenthood, do not get married nor become a parent.
It's a goal everyone should strive for, but I agree that they need to foster personal responsibility and readiness before they take the leap.
@@allmight9840 marriage and parenthood aren't for everyone, nor must everyone participate in them either.
I hate to break it to you buddy but unfortunately due to what's happening in the United States certain states have ban abortion completely. To the point where you can go to jail even if you have a miscarriage. Also I know you mean well but this kind of spits in the face of certain victims of abuse.
@@dreamhubproductions753 i hate to break it to you buddy, but unfortunately, i wasn't talking about abortion at all.
never even brought it up once.
if you can't become a parent.. THEN FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO WITH YOUR LIFE, and take "intimacy" out of your daily life!
i am talking about strengthening one's body and mind, leaving intercourse away.
also ... "THE WORLD" =/= the us.
the us is merely but a single nation sharing 2 other nations with the North American continent.
Canada to the north and Mexico to the south.
Denmark to the utmost north and to the north west Alaska.
the "us" is NOT the world.
so if you can't control what you can and can't do in a single "nation" you still have 194 nations to go for.
why why limit yourself to the "self proclaimed [i am planet earth all of it]"?
can't abort in our "TINY LITTLE VILLAGE"
you can go to:
China, Mexico, Argentina, Poland, Slovakia, Thailand, Canada, The United Kingdom, Australia, Belgium.
if a single nation with "self deifying above all else complex disorder" VISIT *THE WORLD*
my personal point stood at "if you can't stand having kids, ABANDON INTERCOURSE ALTOGETHER!" intimacy IS NOT essential. and you can live without it.
intimacy is over rated. that's all.
@@dreamhubproductions753 You don't go to jail for having a natural miscarriage. You only go to jail if you caused the miscarriage like using drugs and what not. Also just because some don't want a child doesn't mean they're automatically going to be abused. They are plenty of parents who wanted kids and abuse them. Abortion isn't going to stop child abuse.
This is such an underrated game. Not only did this game scare me but it also severely messed me up mentally. Very good psychological game
So I’m guessing that this was one big allegory for her killing her son, stylized in a way where she tried to justify her murder by a supernatural entity forcing her to. The police interrogation we see at the end likely ended with her being arrested for murdering her son.
Yes the demon even lets go of her hands before she stabs her son herself.
Huh didn't know that this game was connected to the secret world. This is really cool lol
Is it just me or does the bogey man looks familiar to the Villain in Box trolls who was obsessed with a white hat.
Edit: I forgot his name.
Archibald Snatcher
Just finished this game for the second time. I had somehow forgotten it the first time, finished in one sitting and yeah, it messed with my sanity a bit, but enough to stay in control. Like a mental thrill vs. a physical thrill. So many interpretations of this story I'm seeing here in the comments.
Omg GamerSault without a beard is so cursed
The Boogeyman sounds more like a scapegoat of sorts. Blaming everything on some supernatural force to avoid responsibility and/or involvement. People are quick to point fingers at others beside themselves.
Thanks R, I really loved this game and never saw any video about it. ❤️❤️
My pleasure :D
@@gamersaultyou did an amazing job on it.💜👍👏💯🎮🕹️
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
GamerSault: *Makes a comment about Nathaniel Winter*
Nathaniel Winter: Hold my hat-
I swear, if the devs of these damn walking simulators hadn't made video games, then they would have turned these walking simulators into unnoteworthy young adult novels.
I've been waiting for a explained video for this
I know people are focusing on lorraine mental problems
but Believe me, the Park is set in the universe of secret worlds.
Nathaniel winters is the boss in the secret worlds legends MMO, you even get to visit the park for it. he is the boogeyman that you can fight for him
And Lorraine died in secret world legends, but the player is able to repair the bee (Which is Gaia's ultimate move to give people a chance to save the world), but time will tell if lorraine can accept callum death and Join Gaia quest to seal the Dreamers.
This should be fine to listen to while all alone in a chicken house
Fun fact this is apart of The Secret World.
I know this is a video for an horror game but you such calming voice!! It makes me want to make some tea and relax xD
nice explanation! got here from JustAspect
I don't want to ruin depression theory but it is depression but she is also being manipulated by other forces in the canon universe
Nice vid my guy👍
Nice vid guy 👍
Nice guy 👍
Monke
When gamingwithkev played this game i didnt even see that kid inside the car
i love your content man
Havent watched the video all the way yet but I remember watching either markiplier or jacksepticeye play this and the ending confused me. So I looked it up and idr if it was canon or just a theory but I read that the squirrel mascot was like a child killer or something disguising himself as the mascot or something like that. And while the mom was drunk or sleeping on the couch or both, Callum went out with friends and was attacked and killed by the child killer squirrel. So now she lives with that regret and stuff. Something like that idr. It's been forever. It's funny how this showed up in my recommended because I've been thinking about this game a lot but couldn't remember the name of it.
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Cool video GamerSault :]
damn hasn't seen this game in years
sometimes i have to watch videos about this game just so i know that i’m not crazy and it’s real-
4:36 ouuuuu she starting to spit some rap there.
This is an amazing game , I really liked playing this.she had schizophrenia. And killed her son. Everything was in her head. I loved the Boogeyman element on each ride . Jumpscare the first time after this you anticipate his appearance. The end is trippy and very sad.
My thoughts exactly.💭🧸🍾🍷
Wow. Loraine's outlook on how "her child owes her everything" is so ass-backwards. The child didn't choose to come into this world, the parents decided to bring the child into the world. Parents owe everything to their children simply for that fact. She's really facing down some severe postpartum depression topped off with a crisis in existentialism. I'm very curious for how this one unfolds.
My thoughts exactly if I ever become a mother I make sure my kid has love and care from me.🧸🍾👩👦🤰🤱🫄
This game is connected to another, Secret World, where you can find many answers about this story, for example Nathaniel Winters is the Boogie Man, not controlled by it
Hey! I saw Daz play that game last year in his gaming channel. I'm surprised you decided to do a video on it eight hours ago by the time I post this comment.
your voice is so calm
Nice also Im the person who helped you get your subreddit lol
One word.
Squirrel.
(Looks kinda like a chipmunk)
Hold up, the thumbnail is amazing but as a person who plays The Mimic, that looks like Tato-
Weirdly, this was a tie-in to the MMO Secret World
This game was really dark, and very well made!
the park is part of the lore of another game called secret world legends or as its previously known the secret world
Loraine is a good example why not all people should have kids
Yeb
Facts.
I believe that all the game till the end was all just parts of the main character's deteriorating mental health, especially with how the man behind the ticket booth or whatever was a police officer asking her where her son was and said also the exact same thing in the beginning. Also, I think it is greatly hinted at that she killed her own son with how near the end it was show her sacrificed her son.