Metronome on 2 & 4 - How to get started practicing 2&4 swing feel - Jazz Guitar Lesson

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  • @JensLarsen
    @JensLarsen  7 років тому +31

    This is a bit of an experiment. I want to make some shorter more loose lessons on questions from you guys or other specific topics and post them. Let me know what you think! 🙂

    • @nlmal4
      @nlmal4 7 років тому +1

      Jens one thing jazz players are very good at; are able to play on the fly through the chord change. Because they do a lot of "eartraining".
      So how I can master that "eartraining", without guitar...., I'm very bad in that thing. That's why playing with a backing track without the knowledge of eartraining or able to hear the chord change a very bad thing. I never play with a backing track if I don't know the chord progression.
      So I will say ""EARTRAINING"" 🙂 Ooooo btw I love shorter lessons videos max. 5 min. 🙂

    • @JariSatta
      @JariSatta 7 років тому +2

      I'd like to see some cool chord voicings. I use thumb from below in some of my chords, call them 'claw chords'

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  7 років тому +1

      Thanks Jari! I already have a lot of videos on voicings of all sorts, so maybe have a look there first. I find that using the thumb to fret in front of the fretboard (not like Hendrix) is not that practical for what I do, so I don't teach it.

    • @howesda
      @howesda 7 років тому +1

      I like the short lessons Jens - this one picks a very specific topic and explains it really nicely.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  7 років тому

      Thanks! Glad you like it! 🙂

  • @ericjtomsky
    @ericjtomsky 4 роки тому +23

    Wow I know what i'm doing for the next couple weeks. So much cognitive dissonance trying to not revert to internalizing the beats on 1 and 3! Thanks for the great lesson Jens!

  • @axeofcreation
    @axeofcreation 7 років тому +2

    I've been doing this more than I ever really have recently. Its effect is quite noticable in all phases.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  7 років тому

      +axeofcreation True! Timing and precision is also a muscle that we train to keep in shape 😊

  • @micah3110
    @micah3110 5 років тому +9

    Thank you, Jens for the clear and concise explanation of how to use a metronome to practice on 2 and 4. We're learning Billie's Bounce, Oleo and No Moe in the guitar class I'm taking. This is very helpful.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  5 років тому +2

      Glad you found it useful! Sounds like a good guitar class!

  • @hermannpallasch2153
    @hermannpallasch2153 5 років тому +11

    Thank you, Jens! For me it's easy if I imagine the 2 and 4 metronome to be a hi-hat...

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  5 років тому +4

      Yes, that is a good one if you are used to listening to Jazz! Thanks! 👍🙂

    • @davidcopeable
      @davidcopeable 5 років тому +1

      ha hehe..great idea ;-)

  • @alfonsoperdomo4469
    @alfonsoperdomo4469 7 років тому +5

    Just with the first 3 minutes of your video i felt the beat as you were saying! thanks! really clean and good explanation

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  7 років тому +1

      +alfonsodpn That's very cool! Thanks for taking the time to say so! 👍👍

  • @jandiara.musica
    @jandiara.musica 3 роки тому +1

    Very useful

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  3 роки тому

      Thank you! Glad you think so 🙂

  • @RsqSqr
    @RsqSqr 3 роки тому +2

    Thankyou Jen, bless and love you!

  • @TheSmash152
    @TheSmash152 6 років тому +4

    First class advice! Thank you. Steve

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  6 років тому +1

      Thank you, Steve, I am glad you found it useful! 👍

  • @lemon9242
    @lemon9242 2 роки тому +1

    This video is definitely underrated .
    Really helpful

  • @JeffSmith-di5rk
    @JeffSmith-di5rk Рік тому +1

    Super helpful!

  • @Bowwylad
    @Bowwylad 3 роки тому +1

    thanks really helpful was searching fora ........ now i found

  • @ericbarritt304
    @ericbarritt304 7 років тому +2

    I'm going to try the metronome.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  7 років тому

      +Eric Barritt Thank you Eric!

  • @jirikrajnak9047
    @jirikrajnak9047 5 років тому +1

    Excellent lesson

  • @TheSillyStringTheory
    @TheSillyStringTheory Рік тому

    Thank you!

  • @hectorrascon9884
    @hectorrascon9884 7 років тому +1

    Awesome, thank you!!!

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  7 років тому

      Thank you Hector Rascon I am glad you found it useful! 👍

  • @brandex2011
    @brandex2011 7 років тому +6

    To make this metronome exercise easy, try hearing the 2 & 4 beat as a hi-hat.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  7 років тому

      +brandex2011 Yes, that is certainly a good idea 😊

    • @daleweber2579
      @daleweber2579 7 років тому

      Tap your feet too.

  • @shauryasingh2702
    @shauryasingh2702 7 років тому +2

    Love your content Jens, Hope to meet you and learn from you someday!

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  7 років тому +1

      +Shaurya Rana Thank you very much! You never know! Where in the world are you?

    • @shauryasingh2702
      @shauryasingh2702 7 років тому +1

      India!

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  7 років тому

      Ah ok. I would love to got there some time :) Let me know if you are coming to The Netherlands! 🙂

    • @shauryasingh2702
      @shauryasingh2702 7 років тому +1

      Off course! :-)

  • @DinamicJonMMusikGermany
    @DinamicJonMMusikGermany 7 років тому +1

    Excellent video Jens..... sehr gut macht spass dich zu sehen, von dir kann man sehr viele Sachen lernen Danke++++

  • @caseymcvey6715
    @caseymcvey6715 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you

  • @brincandodeserpianista8885
    @brincandodeserpianista8885 4 роки тому +1

    Thank so much

  • @nlmal4
    @nlmal4 7 років тому +1

    This is very useful. I will give it a try. I use metronome in reaper (DAW) and you customize the beat and many more. Unfortunately thieves has break into my house and take my best friend "the metronome" and many expensive guitar stuff. Btw good subject ....
    I love it. Is a great challenge man.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  7 років тому +1

      Sorry to hear that Mike! I will get back to you via e-mail tomorrow. I am just back from a gig and am now going to celebrate my girlfriends birthday :)

    • @nlmal4
      @nlmal4 7 років тому

      Congratulations!? No problem first thing first. Have fun man. 🙂 🙂 🙂

  • @MorningCarnival
    @MorningCarnival 11 місяців тому

    Great video as usual. Thanks. I’m a beginner and have trouble keeping time shown comping chords. How about a similar video but with chords?

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  11 місяців тому

      Would a chord video not really be the same? I am not sure I understand

  • @CarlosNaranjoMUSICCHANNEL
    @CarlosNaranjoMUSICCHANNEL 2 роки тому

    Think I got it because I also play drums obvioulsy at same feel (hi-hat foot+snare comping in 2&4), so the isolated drumming could be the next level of practice once you got the metronome, so the groove works cool with it, just an opinion

  • @rieske2000
    @rieske2000 4 роки тому +2

    Great lesson. I will try it but I find rhythm the hardest and thing to deal with ... even reading and then tapping the rhythm is tricky ...

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 роки тому +1

      Just start with stuff that it is easy and get it into your system. You won't regret it 🙂

  • @Shawn-hs8qk
    @Shawn-hs8qk 7 років тому +5

    So what would you say is best, Metronome on 2+4, -and tap 1 2 3 4, -or tap 1 and 3 , -or just put 1 and 3 in your head.
    thanks!

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  7 років тому +4

      That depends on the tempo, you should probably also try to do metronome on 2 and 4 and then just play, don't tap your feet :)

    • @Guitarunivers
      @Guitarunivers 7 років тому +1

      It can be a good idea to have your food on 2 & 4 - also when you play "alone" you are the metronome

  • @kylegrant801
    @kylegrant801 9 місяців тому

    Great video! I'll try my best to stop my 1 and 3 habits 😂

  • @sychustudio2525
    @sychustudio2525 5 років тому

    thanks! great lessons,

  • @DinamicJonMMusikGermany
    @DinamicJonMMusikGermany 7 років тому

    Very great of you that you answer++++

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  7 років тому

      Hi Jon, Do you mind not posting links to your own videos as comments in mine. That is very spammy...
      Jens

    • @DinamicJonMMusikGermany
      @DinamicJonMMusikGermany 7 років тому +1

      I'm really sorry I'm not a spammer, it never comes to !!!

  • @mikedills132
    @mikedills132 3 роки тому +1

    What about in 3/4? Which beats should I hear from the metronome? Thanks!

  • @paulgibby6932
    @paulgibby6932 7 років тому +2

    In the "My Gear" section you should also please list the maker of those frilly nut necklaces you always use. Thanks for the videos

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  7 років тому

      They are a no-name brand from my local supermarket so I actually can't 😁

  • @nusretorcan5881
    @nusretorcan5881 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you Jens , hope. Can do the same in Piano!,,

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 роки тому

      Yes, you can do the same on piano :)

  • @motioninmind6015
    @motioninmind6015 7 років тому +3

    Thank you for your generosity. Setting the metronome to half speed is really valuable information. Now I know why it hasn't been working for me.
    Also - can you recommend any metronome apps?

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  7 років тому

      +Willi Gari You're very welcome! I use pro Metronome?

  • @jdnepari
    @jdnepari 11 місяців тому +1

    Might be too late to get a reaction to this old video but as a tangential question I was just wondering if people have a strong preference for mechanical metronomes vs digital (e.g. phone app) and why.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  11 місяців тому

      You need a tube-metronome 😁
      I don't think that is a thing, at most it will be about what sound you prefer and possibly whether you like to wear tinfoil hats

  • @saepiumv3813
    @saepiumv3813 3 роки тому +1

    Fantastic video 👍 which Ibanez guitar are you playing?

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  3 роки тому +1

      It is an Ibanez AS2630 🙂

    • @saepiumv3813
      @saepiumv3813 3 роки тому +1

      @@JensLarsen Thank you Jens 👍👍

  • @edh1293
    @edh1293 7 років тому +1

    Hello Jens, I'm enjoying your videos as always. O.K. here goes a question that is probably obvious to most of your subscribers(except me). What is the point of hearing the beat on two and four? Thanks in advance for your replyEd

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  7 років тому

      Hi Ed! That's great!
      I talk about why you should use the metronome to learn feeling subdivision and not to lean on it in this video: ua-cam.com/video/XUnu-oYWvtM/v-deo.html

  • @moonsama395
    @moonsama395 4 роки тому

    Which metronome are you using plz? It has a nice click

  • @noreaction1
    @noreaction1 7 років тому +2

    how do you come up with phrasing when improvising solos over certain changes? I know the common way is just use chord tones and passing notes up and down to those chord tones, voice leading to the next change, chromatic voice leading, but something about it doesn't click with me. I can write a solo but I can't improvise one. Also when would you use modes in soloing?

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  7 років тому

      +noreaction I actually don't think exactly like that. I do see the chord tones of the changes bit in the context of the scale that they belong to. I have one lesson on taget notes on a II V I that might help. I can't search a link right now from my phone. Let me know if you can't find it!

  • @jacknicolson946
    @jacknicolson946 3 роки тому

    feel like smashing my guitar up my technique and playing is good my timing is terrible and cant get me head round or feel it

  • @juangloriosacatubay1097
    @juangloriosacatubay1097 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for explaining how to use the 2 and 4 beat in the meter. However, Im still confused where I should start a lick. Should I still start on the 1 or on the 2?

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  3 роки тому +1

      If you it is something you transcribed or are reading then you need to figure out where it starts in the music. Or do you mean somethin else?

    • @juangloriosacatubay1097
      @juangloriosacatubay1097 3 роки тому

      @@JensLarsen I mean, when I am improvising..

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  3 роки тому

      @@juangloriosacatubay1097 then you need to be able to start on both 1 and 2, it is not the same every time 🙂

    • @juangloriosacatubay1097
      @juangloriosacatubay1097 3 роки тому

      @@JensLarsen Got it. All this time I thought it is strictly required to start om up beats (2 or 4) to sound jazzy. Thanks again, and good luck to your channel.

  • @Gitaristterjestorvig
    @Gitaristterjestorvig 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for great lesson. Did you say that Barry Harris would prefer to have the metronome to beat at 1 and 3 at high tempos?

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 роки тому +1

      That I don't know, but he taps his foot on 1 and 3 🙂

    • @Gitaristterjestorvig
      @Gitaristterjestorvig 4 роки тому

      Jens Larsen , thank you. I practice with the meteonome on 2 and four to create and record a steady rythm figure so I can improvise over it. Do you think that is a smart approach? I think it helps me. Then I double check with the metronome if I improvised in time. I use logic home studio for that.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 роки тому +1

      @@Gitaristterjestorvig Why not just practice soloing with the metronome on 2&4?

    • @Gitaristterjestorvig
      @Gitaristterjestorvig 4 роки тому +1

      Jens Larsen, I do that a lot, too. I use different approaches with the metronome. At high tempos it can be a challenge with 2&4, but it’s important to struggle a bit to get better:-) Thanks for your answer.

    • @sgcim956
      @sgcim956 Рік тому +1

      @@Gitaristterjestorvig On fast tempos, it sounds like you're playing country music or polka music with the metronome on 2 and 4! It's only good on slow to medium tempos. That's why Barry Harris uses 1 and 3 on fast tempos. This joker doesn't even realize that! LOL!

  • @WarlikeSRK
    @WarlikeSRK 7 років тому +1

    Hey Jens,
    I have a question: I really want to play jazz full time (as in: devote all my practicing time to it and in a few years ill try to enter the conservatory of Amsterdam or The Hague) and you are by far the best teacher (to me anyway) on youtube for jazz guitar. However I'm having a lot of trouble on finding topics I have to work on within the realm of jazz guitar. I feel like I already know some stuff such as the basic drop2 voicings for 7th chords with the root on 6th and 5th string, all (common) triads on all string sets, working on note reading right now etc. etc. But when I look at your site and how the lessons are structured I have trouble picking the 'beginner' type lessons out, in other words: what is essential to absolutely know as a aspiring jazz guitarist?

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  7 років тому +1

      If you already know stuff like drop2 voicings then don't work on that.
      Focus on learning songs by heart, making your own chord melody of them and improvising and comping. Stay basic and add stuff from my lessons as extra things.
      My UA-cam lessons are certainly not a complete method 🙂
      Keep at it! I am sure you will do well!

  • @kidpoker007
    @kidpoker007 7 років тому +1

    I like videos that can help change up my rhythm when playing lines and comping. When I was taking private lessons thru Truefire with Cheryl Bailey she said i used played the same rhythm on my solos all the time and she new before I even played how it would sound . She stated if I could just change that one aspect of my playing it would take me to an entire new level. How do i do that :)

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  7 років тому

      +kidpoker007 take some rhythms and play them through songs while soloing. I have a few videos on that ☺️

    • @kidpoker007
      @kidpoker007 7 років тому

      Thank you!

  • @kamielbossuyt6087
    @kamielbossuyt6087 6 років тому +1

    What is the song called?

  • @jimconnelly2851
    @jimconnelly2851 2 роки тому

    It's the dinner hour. Do you know where your metronome is? Thanks Jens for this friendly reminder!

  • @ericbarritt304
    @ericbarritt304 7 років тому +1

    I like to 2:4 time.

  • @4578a
    @4578a 9 місяців тому

    If they want people to use a metronome then make one that doesn't sound annoying, How can you stay sane and listen to that click over and over?

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  9 місяців тому

      That excuse stopped making sense 30+ years ago, if you did not solve that yet then the only reason is that you are not trying

    • @4578a
      @4578a 9 місяців тому

      @@JensLarsen Solve the clicking problem? I'm not one who makes them. I can use a metronome but playing with an actual drummer or a drum track achieves the same purpose of playing in time and it sounds better.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  9 місяців тому

      @@4578a You have free metronome apps where you can customize the sound. It isn't a real problem and you can easily do something about it if you want to.

  • @rkralte9973
    @rkralte9973 2 роки тому

    Sorry Jens, too much talking is boring..

  • @pipotherium
    @pipotherium 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you