So even if I'm innocent of a crime I now will be stuck in jail, unable to work, pay bills or support my family. So basically even if I'm innocent my life is ruined? Cool.
Yes exactly. This system literally creates more more criminals and 'bad guys' than it stops. Which is a good thing because the prison industrial complex is a multi million dollar industry that's just booming.
Sam Girardin yep. Check out Kalief Browder’s story. 3 years in jail because he couldn’t afford bail, 16 years old. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalief_Browder
Yep. Kalief was in jail for 3 years for a crime he didn't commit, hundreds of days in solitary confinement (there is a limit to the number of days, which they didn't respect), just because the prosecution couldn't manage to find the one witness. Prison affected him so much that he ended up committing suicide. Unfortunately, he's only one of many.
Australia does not have this cash bail bond system. If the judge grants bail with a money amount nominated, some collateral has to be put up or nominated. The courts will only foreclose on the collateral if the accused jumps bail. Most small crimes don't have a collateral requirement.
I tell you what would be good. If your bail is way too high for you to afford and you are stuck in prison for it "I set bail at 1 million dollars" Since the point of the bail among other things is to "Pay to stay out of jail" if I cannot pay that bail, and am PUT in prison and am found to be innocent after months or years in jail waiting, then I think the price of the bail I could not afford before should become the compensation I get for being innocent and put in jail in the first place. Makes sense to me.
Yeaaaaa sorry buddy you're wrong on that front. Norm MacDonald is actually a funny comedian that doesn't care about offending people...which is at the root of all comedy. He is also very insightful when it comes to social commentary and thinks about things. Jim Jefferies is on the late night cash cow now so he will say whatever popular laughs he knows he can get. He used to be good, but he makes the exact same jokes that every other late night show host makes. He has now become the joke that he so frequently used to make! Why risk to offend and be your own person when you know you can make millions toeing the line???
Those who think bail system is a good idea should be wrongly accused and hit with a bail they cant afford. Even rich people have their financial limits. Keeping someone in jail without proving them guilty should be a last resort. And ... even then, the conditions should be similar to what one has in a normal household/dormitory and not in prison( they are not prisoners yet) Use electronic tracking instead.
UninstallingWindows they should copy Britain’s system where you are released on say 10000 pound bail but you don’t pay it unless you break your bail conditions, meaning everyone gets an opportunity to keep themselves on the outside, if you don’t then you have to pay your bail before having a chance of being released again it makes so much more sense
@@eirebhoy132 the only disadvantage of this is. You first have to prove that one has the funds to cover the bail. Yet still yes a million times better the the USA system again welcome to the worst country on earth
1 of many reasons that as a US Military Veteran i refuse to live in the USA (18 years abroad and counting). It is chaos there, with so many institutionally racist things that makes everything run a at a backward pace. It is simply untenable that a country that wants to advance cannot advance due to its affinity toward racism. I look forward to when our country catches up with the rest of the developed world which is about 50 years ahead of the USA but until then I will call Europe my home.
The John Oliver show did a similar story, with some US states unbelievably contracting out their court fines. If a person gets fined $500 in court, a private company pays $500 to the courts and now the "criminal" is on the hook to a debt collection company for the $500, and they charge like loan sharks with all sorts of fees, high interest and default fines. The story showed examples of people having paid thousands for a few hundred dollar fine and they still are not paid off and are facing court again for non payment to the debt agency, it's absolutely criminal.
Rarely are Black families the portrayed victims or assailants in Law & Order, but in almost every ep the person can post bail. And they gloss over those who can't and how they're living.
Cash Bail is simply a pointless backwards way of discriminating against the poor. It makes zero sense from a justice point of view. Bail's not paid for by taxes because releasing people before their trials doesn't cost money!
I don't get that whole bail system. Here in Germany if you're dangerous and there is a risk of absconding you'll wait until your trial behind bars. Naturally the latter happens more often if the defendant is somewhat wealthy.
How does the Bail thing even work? Is it like a pawn that you get back if you are not convicted later on? Or is it just that the rich dads can pay their kids out
It's basically used as a pawn. Judge sets a dollar amount that you will get back once you return to court for sentencing, Don't show up and you lose the money paid and the cops throw you back in jail. Can't afford the bond? A bail bondsman will lend you the money and charge a high interest rate, if you can't afford a loan then you will sit in jail for months until you are sentenced. I believe america is one of the few if not only countries that use this system.
Of course its going to be racist when race is even something that can be entered into the system. In my country, you cant list a persons race. You can list their appearance (through which a person but not a computer system can determine race) but you cant list a persons race.
I gotta say this is a return to form for jim . His last Netflix special wasn't great and this series on comedy central he's not been up to his usual standards , but this is good
You still just reading whatever your writers are putting on the autocue then Jim? You used to be my favourite comedian until this show. Lost all respect
A .Suijker lol that’s exactly the point he is making in this video. Why are people being put in jail of something they have been accused of doing? And if you got the money you can be released but only if you have the money. That’s not justice. Either you have reasonable suspicion to detain a person or you don’t. There should not be money involved in that decision.
@@commonsense31 i agree, but man be the better person. Im just as leftist as Jimmy is (Im European). But let the judges do theire job and dont make one big mockery show out of an trial.
@Emmett Hardie i do get it. And i agree as i sayd. But dont do the same thing to kavanaugh to make a point. Hes innocent untill proven guilty as are the ones not able to pay bail.
If you have private prisons what do you expect.
Prisons for profit = more ridiculous laws being passed to profit prisons. Amazed how some people dont get that.
So even if I'm innocent of a crime I now will be stuck in jail, unable to work, pay bills or support my family. So basically even if I'm innocent my life is ruined? Cool.
Yes exactly. This system literally creates more more criminals and 'bad guys' than it stops. Which is a good thing because the prison industrial complex is a multi million dollar industry that's just booming.
And strange people think that Kavanaugh has his life ruined.
Sam Girardin yep. Check out Kalief Browder’s story. 3 years in jail because he couldn’t afford bail, 16 years old.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalief_Browder
Best country in the world right..
Yep. Kalief was in jail for 3 years for a crime he didn't commit, hundreds of days in solitary confinement (there is a limit to the number of days, which they didn't respect), just because the prosecution couldn't manage to find the one witness. Prison affected him so much that he ended up committing suicide. Unfortunately, he's only one of many.
Australia does not have this cash bail bond system. If the judge grants bail with a money amount nominated, some collateral has to be put up or nominated. The courts will only foreclose on the collateral if the accused jumps bail. Most small crimes don't have a collateral requirement.
I tell you what would be good. If your bail is way too high for you to afford and you are stuck in prison for it "I set bail at 1 million dollars" Since the point of the bail among other things is to "Pay to stay out of jail" if I cannot pay that bail, and am PUT in prison and am found to be innocent after months or years in jail waiting, then I think the price of the bail I could not afford before should become the compensation I get for being innocent and put in jail in the first place. Makes sense to me.
By far, I think he is one of the funniest guys on TV at the moment. I want to see more of his clips.
And you KNOW that guy knows his stuff about bail money.
Well of course, he's an Aussie.
And all americans love shooting black people. One of our comments is racist, and one is an observation.
I'm pretty sure both comments just make you both look like insensitive pricks
Deathnote2539 nah the Aussie one is ok, trust me
Every time one of these comedy talk show hosts say, “some people don’t like.” I always expect a Fox News clip
Jim Jefferies and Norm MacDonald are the quintessential comedians. And I'm glad they exist.
Completely opposite.
Dylan Roper I’m pretty sure they don’t have to be alike to be comedians ...
Yeaaaaa sorry buddy you're wrong on that front. Norm MacDonald is actually a funny comedian that doesn't care about offending people...which is at the root of all comedy. He is also very insightful when it comes to social commentary and thinks about things. Jim Jefferies is on the late night cash cow now so he will say whatever popular laughs he knows he can get. He used to be good, but he makes the exact same jokes that every other late night show host makes. He has now become the joke that he so frequently used to make! Why risk to offend and be your own person when you know you can make millions toeing the line???
AccaDaccaVoltage thanks Lieutenant Hauk....
@@AccaDaccaVoltage Exactly.
Come on Australian. You forgot a Cricket Bail.
Those who think bail system is a good idea should be wrongly accused and hit with a bail they cant afford.
Even rich people have their financial limits.
Keeping someone in jail without proving them guilty should be a last resort. And ... even then, the conditions should be similar to what one has in a normal household/dormitory and not in prison( they are not prisoners yet)
Use electronic tracking instead.
UninstallingWindows they should copy Britain’s system where you are released on say 10000 pound bail but you don’t pay it unless you break your bail conditions, meaning everyone gets an opportunity to keep themselves on the outside, if you don’t then you have to pay your bail before having a chance of being released again it makes so much more sense
@@eirebhoy132 the only disadvantage of this is. You first have to prove that one has the funds to cover the bail. Yet still yes a million times better the the USA system again welcome to the worst country on earth
Torchy Smurf was always my favorite.
1 of many reasons that as a US Military Veteran i refuse to live in the USA (18 years abroad and counting). It is chaos there, with so many institutionally racist things that makes everything run a at a backward pace. It is simply untenable that a country that wants to advance cannot advance due to its affinity toward racism. I look forward to when our country catches up with the rest of the developed world which is about 50 years ahead of the USA but until then I will call Europe my home.
The John Oliver show did a similar story, with some US states unbelievably contracting out their court fines. If a person gets fined $500 in court, a private company pays $500 to the courts and now the "criminal" is on the hook to a debt collection company for the $500, and they charge like loan sharks with all sorts of fees, high interest and default fines. The story showed examples of people having paid thousands for a few hundred dollar fine and they still are not paid off and are facing court again for non payment to the debt agency, it's absolutely criminal.
America is ridiculous.
I so love this show
Rarely are Black families the portrayed victims or assailants in Law & Order, but in almost every ep the person can post bail. And they gloss over those who can't and how they're living.
BRILLIANT!
Awww, no one in the studio got his, "make a great point" gag. I got it, Jim! I even laughed.
The Christan Bale/hay bale bit killed me. 😂
funny. another thing that is free in britian. bail and healthcare. (yes i know neither are free they are paid for by taxes but still)
Taxation is theft hur hur
Muh freedumbs hur hur
Caring about poor people is somehow communism hur
Cash Bail is simply a pointless backwards way of discriminating against the poor. It makes zero sense from a justice point of view. Bail's not paid for by taxes because releasing people before their trials doesn't cost money!
doesnt it save the government money?
Cash bail pretty much is America in a nutshell. Messed up
good job jim
What about Gareth Bale?
It's brilliant Jim😋
Nails the reason why I treat Conservatives with mistrust. One rule for one and another for everyone else.
Jim Jefferies has replaced John Oliver as the comedian who has the pulse on social commentary.
Has for me ever since his videos stopped being available in my country
I mean. At lest I can watch Jim. I'm sure O would disagree if i actually watch John's show instead of the dripfeed i get now.
Here in the UK we always liked Jim. Never even heard of John until he popped up and spewed centrist bull on TV in America.
Paul surely you'd want a guy who is supposed to give unbiased facts to be centrist? I mean that makes sense to me.
They are Both good
Jim is the tough talker and John the more composed and Both doing a funny job
3:06 If we'd developed ice cream machines today instead of 80 years ago or whatever that's exactly how they'd work.
I don't get that whole bail system. Here in Germany if you're dangerous and there is a risk of absconding you'll wait until your trial behind bars. Naturally the latter happens more often if the defendant is somewhat wealthy.
One of the funniest comedians ever, ruined by American tv.
Hey, Smurfs can be black too.....
@@gorillaguerillaDK nerd
@@oisinsammon328
Yes!
I know!
😜 😂
I'm terrible!
What about a cricket bail?
He couldn’t find a punchline for that one.
He was stumped.
@@richardlloyd2589 aahahah I think Americans wouldn't get that though
A lot of bad guys back on the streets... as opposed to only the rich ones
I feel like Last Week Tonight did this topic already.....like 3 years ago...
And it solved the problem did it?
I want another story about a man, whose father was an ice cream cone, and whose mother was Korean :D
He's gotta get himself more writers - too little information, too much "ahhhhhhh"
How does the Bail thing even work? Is it like a pawn that you get back if you are not convicted later on? Or is it just that the rich dads can pay their kids out
It's basically used as a pawn.
Judge sets a dollar amount that you will get back once you return to court for sentencing, Don't show up and you lose the money paid and the cops throw you back in jail.
Can't afford the bond? A bail bondsman will lend you the money and charge a high interest rate, if you can't afford a loan then you will sit in jail for months until you are sentenced.
I believe america is one of the few if not only countries that use this system.
Of course its going to be racist when race is even something that can be entered into the system. In my country, you cant list a persons race. You can list their appearance (through which a person but not a computer system can determine race) but you cant list a persons race.
What about Gareth bale?! :o
Gareth Bale......
One rule for the rich and another for the poor...... good to know we are all "equal" before the law
What about Gareth Bale
Hi!
Gareth Bale
Its going all black mirror.
AHAHAHA JIM YOU'RE THE BEST
If your getting your news from vice well good luck
Heeey Bale :)
I gotta say this is a return to form for jim . His last Netflix special wasn't great and this series on comedy central he's not been up to his usual standards , but this is good
kevin taylor I agree I just think he needed to find himself and the model that works for him.
Like his spots where he interview people so hilarious
I don't know why he remind me of Craig ferguson
John Oliver, anyone?
Jail for profit... MURICA!
90% of Jim jefferies show: THATS RACIST!!
They're targeted the most, because they commit the most crimes. Not a judgement, but a factual observation.
Fun fact! Race sentencing gap: 25% Gender sentencing gap: 60%
You still just reading whatever your writers are putting on the autocue then Jim? You used to be my favourite comedian until this show. Lost all respect
great piece but next time don't take clips from russian propaganda sites.
I love Jim but this is just being hypocrit. Dont pass judgement on someone Who isnt convicted.
A .Suijker lol that’s exactly the point he is making in this video.
Why are people being put in jail of something they have been accused of doing?
And if you got the money you can be released but only if you have the money.
That’s not justice.
Either you have reasonable suspicion to detain a person or you don’t.
There should not be money involved in that decision.
@@commonsense31 i agree, but man be the better person. Im just as leftist as Jimmy is (Im European). But let the judges do theire job and dont make one big mockery show out of an trial.
@Emmett Hardie i do get it. And i agree as i sayd. But dont do the same thing to kavanaugh to make a point. Hes innocent untill proven guilty as are the ones not able to pay bail.
Remember when he was funny
Sorry, he is a great stand up performer, but this show sucks.
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Gareth Bale