Ludwig NeuSonic Shell Pack - Drummer's Review

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  • @roybeckerman9253
    @roybeckerman9253 6 років тому +26

    Love the honest comments...very refreshing.
    Not a sales pitch, like most.

  • @frankspikes4867
    @frankspikes4867 6 років тому +22

    I love the reviews on this channel. No hype sales crap. Just the strait forward truth about the products they review. Nice drumming, and that kit sounds great!!

  • @BobbyJetty1502
    @BobbyJetty1502 4 роки тому +10

    I've gotta say, with second rate Remo heads you guys did one hell of a job making this kit especially the kick drum sound really impressive. Well done.🥁

  • @lentzintl
    @lentzintl 6 років тому +9

    I finally realized that you are the bass player for Periphery. I love this channel, you guys do incredible reviews!

  • @DavidEpstein
    @DavidEpstein 6 років тому +23

    Kind of disappointing, but I think you've hit the nail on the head regarding the price point. I think one of Ludwig's challenges in general is selling their new drums because the old drums still sound so good and are pretty widely available on the used marked at reasonable prices. I'm a big Ludwig fan and own many Ludwig snare drums, a club date kit, and a Breakbeats kit, and a classic maple kick drum. I've switched out all of the snare strainers on my snare drums, and I never use the stock head. To me, there's a certain magic in the Ludwig shells themselves, and we put up with the sub-par hardware and heads because the drums are just that good.
    I also wish that the 22 kick drum came in a 14" depth.

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому +2

      Never have had any real problems with Ludwig strainers. Now Slingerland's and Leedy's are a different story. Too bad that Ludwigs are so much more expensive in the U.K. They're made right down the road from me!

  • @chiphammond1623
    @chiphammond1623 6 років тому +2

    Really appreciate how honest you guys are in your reviews.

  • @roybeckerman9253
    @roybeckerman9253 6 років тому +2

    A nice vintage Ludwig seems better value and a better sound.
    That’s why vintage is so popular.
    This is s good honest channel...no usual sales pitch.
    A great UA-cam asset.

  • @JeremySmith23
    @JeremySmith23 6 років тому +42

    It would be cool if you guys put on some good heads and showed what it sounds like with some on the drums

    • @dannylugo5016
      @dannylugo5016 6 років тому +1

      Great idea, I agree !!!

    • @bb.70
      @bb.70 6 років тому +2

      Yup. 1st thing I did . And it sounds effing amazing

    • @hdriderpat22
      @hdriderpat22 6 років тому

      which heads did you use ? @@bb.70

    • @bb.70
      @bb.70 6 років тому +1

      @@hdriderpat22 Remo clear emperor on batter & Remo clear ambassador on resonance side..Aquarian super kick II batter & Remo Ambassador on bass drum. Tried coated 1st in same studio room but to my ear the clear emperors were more open & wet sounding...

    • @kmers9458
      @kmers9458 5 років тому +1

      b b super kick ll is a must!! Lovely head

  • @terrydonegan1622
    @terrydonegan1622 4 роки тому +3

    Excellent honest review. Thanks for your work

  • @peterjsmcleod3341
    @peterjsmcleod3341 6 років тому +9

    This was an extremely fair review, for a kit in this price range I would expect better quality stock heads and cleaner seems. A great review that professionally critically comments on build quality.

  • @SeanZetterlund
    @SeanZetterlund 5 років тому +12

    how does this channel not have 100k subscribers? blashphemy. great video and review guys!

    • @DrummersReview
      @DrummersReview  5 років тому +3

      Sean Zetterlund hey thanks Sean.. the channel was launched 2 years ago and we have been growing the channel organically. Thanks for watching/subscribing.. DR

    • @jangobango2847
      @jangobango2847 5 років тому +2

      @@DrummersReview just found the channel and love it! Not enough honest drum reviewz on youtube, if any!!

  • @joecarmichael8185
    @joecarmichael8185 12 годин тому

    Be great to se another review 6 years later of the Neusonic line. And why so expensive in the UK? I guess many tariffs. They aren’t cheap in Canada either

  • @bb.70
    @bb.70 6 років тому +8

    I put 2 ply made in the USA Remo clear emperor heads on toms & Remo Powerstroke 3 on the kick and it sounds as good or better than kits that I've owned that cost 3 times as much as this one...super light weight thin-ply shells w/no gimmicky heavy hardware, great tone & timbre , w/warm punchy lows, the cherry plies give it better attack & enable it to slice thru the mix, great for real-world gigging.. btw the skyline blue satin finish reigns supreme on this kit.. I paid $999.00 delivered tax free via Sweetwater...

  • @azguitar
    @azguitar 6 місяців тому

    Great, honest review. The detail is appreciated!

  • @dannylugo5016
    @dannylugo5016 6 років тому +2

    Thank you for doing a review on Ludwig drums. I agree, with quality drum heads these would sound much better.

  • @malinwj1167
    @malinwj1167 2 роки тому +1

    Ordered a kit today. The bass drum spurs have been upgraded since this review. Have never placed much weight on stock heads from any drum line. We'll see how it goes, taking a chance. The thin lightweight shells piqued my interest, as these drums will be used for gigs

  • @adamzaslavsky4283
    @adamzaslavsky4283 5 років тому +1

    just a terrific review and presentation, thank you

  • @WeAreBeggarsAll83
    @WeAreBeggarsAll83 5 років тому +1

    Those are some great observations! Love the videos!

  • @HaloAdmiral
    @HaloAdmiral 2 роки тому +1

    You guys should throw on Evans G1/Remo Ambassadors/Aquarian Texture Coated for your reviews to give the full potential of the shells

  • @bellyspecial9152
    @bellyspecial9152 6 років тому +2

    I was excited about this kit. Thanks for the honest review. I think I prefer the natal café racer.

  • @rztzz
    @rztzz 5 років тому +1

    Considering this drum vs the signet. 900GBP over here in Thailand so makes a bit more sense. Same price for the 4-piece signet though which am beginning to think is better value if am going to do lightweight kit.
    Any thoughts/comments appreciated!
    Great to see this perspective though! Keep it up!

  • @iansmith-hughes691
    @iansmith-hughes691 2 роки тому +1

    Once again a great kit let down by poor or average heads.
    I've contemplated getting a Nusonic but the few reviews I've seen have put me a bit on the back foot. As an older player I have gone back to playing a 4 piece - the days of 6 concert toms over a 5 piece kit are long gone! - wanting a smaller kit to do the work is more important than ever.
    Sadly the jury's out on this kit - thanks for such consistently great and above all honest reviews. 👍

  • @BadChizzle
    @BadChizzle 3 роки тому

    Good job telling the truth. Refreshing. I too have often wondered why the cheaper heads? It’s not as if the kit is at a budget price. Thank you.

  • @jameslovatt111
    @jameslovatt111 6 років тому +2

    @Drummer's Review. Thanks for the great reviews. Is there any chance you would review some of the Gretsch Brooklyn and Broadkaster kits, maybe a Ludwig classic maple too?

    • @DrummersReview
      @DrummersReview  6 років тому +1

      James Lovatt we have put the requests out James. Stay tuned! Best wishes, DR

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому +2

      One thing that one always has to remember regarding Ludwig Classic Maples, or any of their other lines above the Neusonics, is that the kits are "custom ordered" with multiple choices regarding bearing edges, lugs, mounts, brackets, claws, and other hardware, plus a plethora of finishes (there were 40+ finish options when I ordered my Classic Maples in 2013). So how you choose your bearing edges will definitely affect the way that a drum sounds. As well, the chosen hardware may well affect your satisfaction with those aspects of the kits (some folks even think that the sound of drums may be affected by whether or not you have Large Classic, Small Classic or Mini-Classic lugs...or even whether or not there are rubber gaskets under the insulators!). Anyway, one has a wide variety of choices/options with Ludwig. I don't think that Gretsch offers such choices/options with their Brooklyn line.

  • @sethlamanna7996
    @sethlamanna7996 3 роки тому

    What can you say there Luddies great sounding drums always were always will be

  • @snareaddict
    @snareaddict 6 років тому +7

    I respect your honesty pertaining to review, however I disagree with a few points. The price point is not Ludwigs fault, but perhaps the UK laws regarding. Also, flimsy spurs? They are definitely lighter in weight and streamline, but did the kick drum move? Wobble? I bet it didn’t. So, to some, this saved weight might be a bonus and a plus. Especially drummers running around from club to club. Lastly, I did not find the seam that terrible. Especially when you take into account, the exterior wrap on these kits is molded in the jig with the shell. This leaves no overlap and a perfect 100 percent adhesion. Wrap is part of the shell. By doing this, head seats better and drum rings truer. Just my 2 cents. I have heard these kits with American heads and they are hard to beat at any price point.

    • @MaguSdelFiasco
      @MaguSdelFiasco 6 років тому +1

      Even a Mapex Armory, which costs half the price, has rubbered die cast spurs... Not to mention that are laquered and not wrapped -> and that's not just for the personal taste, since painting shells is far way more expensive than attach a paper on em, plus we are not talking about premium wrap like delmar, but a total White one

    • @snareaddict
      @snareaddict 6 років тому +5

      Duke Nukem you didn’t answer my question. Did they warble? Those spurs are solid. This finish is far more durable than a wrap and applied in a better sonic fashion as it is molded with the shell. It is also far more durable than both a standard wrap and paint finish. I’ve played both and an Armory is not sonically in the same class. They can afford to paint the Armory because of easy to comply environmental laws and cheap labor. Armory is not very much cheaper in the states btw. 999 for the Luddys here. That’s an American made shell pack by a Legend in the drum industry. No offense to Mapex, they make nice products, but considering the kit tested was probably made in the same molds as Ringos kit, I’d say it’s the better bargain.

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому

      @@MaguSdelFiasco Your comments regarding the cost of "wraps" versus "lacquered" shell finishes is likely correct in a general sense, but their are notable exceptions, such as the "Vintage" wraps available from Ludwig (including the reproduction "Ringo" wrap) as they are imported to the USA (I've been told that "Ringo" wrap is sourced from Italy) and are "extra cost" finishes on Ludwig's pro-level drums. As well, Classic Champagne Sparkle wrap is currently one of the most expensive, if not the most expensive, finishes that can be put on a drum ... lacquer or otherwise ... as it contains copper and other metallic chips in it ($375 for enough to cover a 14x22 kick drum... just for the wrap).

    • @toddcapiton6285
      @toddcapiton6285 Рік тому

      Those spurs, and this kit, suck.

  • @JeremySmith23
    @JeremySmith23 6 років тому

    Great sounding drums

  • @carlosclerigadrums
    @carlosclerigadrums 2 роки тому

    Thank you for such an honest review.

  • @ajgdrums24
    @ajgdrums24 6 років тому

    I don't know if the price has simply gone down since this video, but this kit is sold in the US for $999

    • @af7119
      @af7119 4 роки тому

      Nolly mentioned the price in pounds sterling vs. US dollars. Exchange rate checks out.

  • @andYz00m
    @andYz00m 4 роки тому

    Very high quality content.

  • @Jetty-xd9yc
    @Jetty-xd9yc 5 років тому

    I'm in full agreement with many of the comments below that clearly state you mentioned how good the kit "could" sound swapping out heads. But you didn't. What you did was act like a pompous jerk, and in my humble opinion did nothing but talk down about this kit. You are a well versed drummer, great in the pocket from genre to genre. I'm not trying to blow smoke up your ass, I would just appreciate you giving it another going over by swapping out for higher quality heads and let's revisit this drum kit. I'm sure I speak for a lot a fellow drummers as a request to do this. I'll keep watching. Keep up the good work.

    • @DrummersReview
      @DrummersReview  5 років тому

      Hi Jetty 1502, thanks for watching and for your comments. Just to address your point: we deliberately choose NOT to swap out the heads as we feel that in order to give a fair account of each kit we review we look at it exactly as it would come supplied to consumers when purchased. We feel that this is the fairest option, as if you bought the kit then had to spend a further amount of money on upgrading the heads it affects the value-for-money aspect of any kit (which we feel is a big deciding factor when considering any potential new kit). We also feel swapping out the heads for each review would lead to other issues, including our choice of heads not being to everyones taste therefore leading to more requests to review the same kit with different head choices (brands, coated vs. clear etc.)
      Our overall ethos is that we feel that the heads supplied should be reviewed with the same approach we take to the rest of the kit (shell construction, hardware etc.) and if an improvement can be made, we certainly feel we should highlight it. In actuality if you watch the full review, this wasn't the only criticism we had of this particular kit, so your comments regarding Nolly (who isn't the kit demonstrator as you alluded to) acting like a 'pompous jerk' or 'talking down' about this kit are, in our opinion, completely unjustified. I hope this helps clarify why we take this approach to our reviews, and again thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! Best wishes, Nick. (Drummer's Review product demonstrator)

    • @Jetty-xd9yc
      @Jetty-xd9yc 5 років тому

      @@DrummersReview sorry about the pompous jerk statement that really wasn't cool. However is a 33 year vet behind the drum kit either in the studio or on the road we buy these kits and leave them at certain places and always swap the heads immediately. So speaking for the pro Semi-Pro players here in America who have many different Semi-Pro kits at different studios all over the states the only point I was trying to make is that we always change our heads immediately. You guys have a great day over there, cheers 🥁🤘

  • @af7119
    @af7119 4 роки тому

    Could someone please share the model of Meinl Crash being used? Sounds exquisite.

  • @roybeckerman9253
    @roybeckerman9253 6 років тому +3

    Certainly cheaper than the Ludwig Classic Maple ext, but it shows.
    Better off paying for the quality kits if you can afford it.
    The Gretsch Catalinas sound better, if you are after a good cheaper kit.

  • @af7119
    @af7119 3 роки тому

    Anyone know which Meinl crash is being used here? Sounds so buttery smooth and smoky!

  • @christophergarrido2802
    @christophergarrido2802 6 років тому

    Wonder how it compares to a DW Design Series considering such similar price points.

  • @Ranger1216
    @Ranger1216 2 роки тому

    Seems that Neusonic is the new club date class. But I just prefer clubdate….Your analysis of build would be interesting to compare for a clubdate…..thanks for your review…..

  • @jonathanbormann5077
    @jonathanbormann5077 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for doing this review. Was back and forth between the 2021 option of these vs the Tama Starclassic birch/walnut. Definitely going with the Tama. (Both sets 20x14, 14x14, 12x8)

    • @jonathanbormann5077
      @jonathanbormann5077 3 роки тому

      @@traviswoodall6547 I appreciate that input. Looking forward to when I get mine.

  • @djentlover
    @djentlover 6 років тому

    That drummer is simply amazing. Even the single hits he does with the perfect angle, rebound and velocity.

    • @jacobjappe
      @jacobjappe 6 років тому

      Stop yourself. No hate, but if his a amazing drummer Lars Ulrich is Dave Weckl.

    • @djentlover
      @djentlover 6 років тому

      I don't really care for dave weckl

    • @jacobjappe
      @jacobjappe 6 років тому

      The timing, for example dude.

  • @ramonkey2939
    @ramonkey2939 4 роки тому

    Gonna use this kit a lot so as long as it can take the bumps and bruises we will be fine but first change the heads i mean do they really expect you to use the shell pack heads. When I buy drums I gdt them setup at the store before I leave. The clamps on bass drum should be upgraded but this is an intermediate kit so that woukd have to be the players call. Most professional make those adjustments on most kits in thst price range.

  • @stephentucci3811
    @stephentucci3811 2 роки тому

    Thank you for review

  • @seitsen
    @seitsen 6 років тому

    What is that ride? I checked Meinl website but couldn't be sure what model it is.

  • @giannibadeau3344
    @giannibadeau3344 3 роки тому

    Nice work! Thank you!

  • @bradanderson1442
    @bradanderson1442 5 років тому +1

    I think they sound really good.. Prob sound better with Emps and ambassadors.. I wish they offered a 24" bass drum.

  • @sherwincody5025
    @sherwincody5025 4 роки тому

    im a lite player using 7a sticks , and im lookng for a new kit, was wondering what you have found to be the best for this type of playing style

    • @cmswrD
      @cmswrD 3 роки тому

      A kit with smaller shells would probably work since they would still sound clear at lower volumes due to the higher pitch

  • @dmitryshkolnik5233
    @dmitryshkolnik5233 6 років тому +1

    as far as I know, the idea for this kit was to combine u.s. production and a pricetag of under a grand. breaking any of this conditions breaks the whole point, I guess..

  • @dr.strange.2655
    @dr.strange.2655 5 років тому +1

    This VS SIGNET?

  • @yessitsme6884
    @yessitsme6884 6 років тому

    Everyone in the comments seems to be forgetting that this is a US made kit. They had to cut some corners to manage that price point given this, like the stock heads. If you don't care where your kit is made, yes I can think of a few options that are probably better than this.
    All that said, yeah... it does sit in that odd spot where you end up regretting not getting a "real" Ludwig for a few hundreds more off the used market.
    Still... the Neusonic I saw in the flesh impressed me.

  • @Monsterdrumma
    @Monsterdrumma 5 років тому

    What ride cymbal is that?

  • @fab5720
    @fab5720 6 років тому

    An honest review. Thanks for that. You backed up my impression on the Ludwig. For half the money, you could get some Yamaha Stage Custom or Tama Silverstar shellsets and you'd get better drums. Ludwig somehow believes that they can rip off their customers. Let's see for how long this will work.

    • @hansamoh5226
      @hansamoh5226 6 років тому

      + FM S Yes, Ludwig relies on the legacy. But I doubt it would help, if the sales go down. Ask Gibson! That may be the main reason why nowadays the leading drum brands are called Tama, Pearl, Yamaha and Mapex. The simply make better quality, for a much better price.
      Speaking of it: For this pricepoint I can get a Mapex Saturn V - a real professional drumset.

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому

      And the Yamaha Stage Custom will have the same Remo UT heads and have jam screws to secure the the floor tom legs (as will the Silverstars) instead of the clamp-style Triad isolation mounts. Guess which mounting system will last longer? Ludwig discontinued the jam screw mounts back in the late-1960s.

    • @toddcapiton6285
      @toddcapiton6285 Рік тому

      These drums are lame and cheaply made compared to other kits of this caliber.

  • @zeppelinrules1077
    @zeppelinrules1077 4 роки тому

    Love your reviews! Bit disappointed to see the build quality on these kits and they really need to add more shell sizes and finishes. It would be great if Ludwig sold a cheaper version of the Bonham setup, similar to PDPs Concept Maple Classic, they would have my money in a flash

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому +1

      Ludwig had the Bonham set-up that you seek in the "Centennial" series. U.S.-sourced maple, but made in Taiwan to hold down the costs. The "Centennials" also used the same "micro" Classic lug as the Neusonics. They've been discontinued, but can still be found {just played on some at a local Guitar Center (Charlotte, NC, USA)}. DW is doing something similar with their Design series. Ludwig is still trying to make as many of their drum lines as possible in the United States.

  • @bishlap
    @bishlap 6 років тому

    liked every sound but the snare.

    • @joellebrodeur1015
      @joellebrodeur1015 5 років тому

      I don't like the snare, either. To my ears, the kit sounds like a cross between Bonzo's kit and Ringo's.

  • @davidsuprenant893
    @davidsuprenant893 6 років тому

    By the way they already have the keystones kits that are less money than the classic kits.

  • @jamesberlo4298
    @jamesberlo4298 6 років тому +2

    The Bass Drum Spurs are hardly "Flimsy" They are rugged , simple and have style. and original unlike some of the most exclusive boutique brands that use generic 70's cheesy Japanese Spurs.
    One major appeal of Ludwig is the Components and parts have such a unique style and a sophisticated simplicity that does not get dated , some of it is over 100 years old (the Speed King Pedal 1938) and is professional high quality equipment / Instruments at a moderate price.

    • @fab5720
      @fab5720 6 років тому

      Fanboy talk. Those bassdrumspurs are lousy. And the set s ugly. Deal with it.

  • @davidmartin6959
    @davidmartin6959 5 років тому

    d'ou est ce qui sort lui ?

  • @roybeckerman9253
    @roybeckerman9253 5 років тому +1

    Do they come with a Ludwig snare to get the complete Ludwig sound .
    That snare is a bit “ ringy “...

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому

      Put an e-ring on it or some Moongel... or your handkerchief.

    • @roybeckerman9253
      @roybeckerman9253 3 роки тому

      @@Paisteconvert
      Shouldn’t need it..

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому

      @@roybeckerman9253 Hah! You need some "ring" for projection if you're performing without miccing everything. Just ask Kenny Aranoff!

    • @roybeckerman9253
      @roybeckerman9253 3 роки тому

      @@Paisteconvert
      I agree, some, but not too much..especially for this demonstration.

  • @roybeckerman9253
    @roybeckerman9253 5 років тому

    Are these in competition with the Gretsch Catalinas.

  • @Hercules_Mavromatis
    @Hercules_Mavromatis 6 років тому

    I do agree that the Neusonic's price is quite high for an intermediate-pro level set. But I would that you put quality heads when you review the drums because these cheap UT heads would make any drum sound bad, and I don't think any drummer wants to hear a drum set at it's worst potential.
    P.s Love your channel really good reviews and style

    • @DrummersReview
      @DrummersReview  6 років тому +2

      Hi Stathis Iraklis Mavromatis, thanks for your comments! We intentionally don't change the heads as we feel it's best to review each kit as it would come supplied straight from the manufacturer as it gives a true reflection of what anyone who purchases the kit can expect. Again thanks for your thoughts and for watching Drummer's Review!

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому

      @@DrummersReview But don't the Yamaha Stage Customs, and a host of other China-sourced drum kits, come with these same Remo UT heads? All the ones that I 've seen in the stores in my area (Charlotte, NC, USA) have had UTs.

  • @cpu554
    @cpu554 6 років тому

    £1250?
    Ouch!.
    It's a $1k over here in the states.

    • @FONO63
      @FONO63 5 років тому +1

      Yep, seems very pricey for what they are IMO.

  • @alanduncan1980
    @alanduncan1980 5 років тому +1

    Are the heads really that bad? They're made by Remo, aren't they just Ambassadors with the Ludwig logo on them?

    • @21DaHoagie12
      @21DaHoagie12 5 років тому +1

      alan duncan they are Remo UT series which means they were made in China and the head is clamped into the rim, as opposed to glued, which is why the don’t hold tune and are considered cheap.

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому +1

      @@21DaHoagie12 At least the drums aren't made in China. The heads can be replaced fairly easily and economically. All the Yamaha Stage Customs and China-sourced kits that I've seen in the USA in the last 10 years had the Remo UT heads. Btw... the upper level Ludwig kits now have Ludwig logo heads made by Remo, except the snares.

  • @volodia860
    @volodia860 6 років тому +1

    ¿this or Gretsch Catalina Maple?

    • @marcellomorena9156
      @marcellomorena9156 5 років тому

      Catalina 150% all the way

    • @ohrid59mk76
      @ohrid59mk76 4 роки тому

      TAMA Superstar classic or YAMAHA STAGE CUSTOM !

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому

      @@ohrid59mk76 And the Yamaha will come with Remo UT heads too and have jam screws to secure the the floor tom legs instead of the clamp-style Triad isolation mounts.

    • @ohrid59mk76
      @ohrid59mk76 3 роки тому

      @@Paisteconvert thats true but all drums in this price range comes with bad heads , 100 € or $ more and you are ready to go !

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому

      @@ohrid59mk76 Depending on the exchange rate, 100 Euros and you may be able to get Classic Maples. My point is that while you're hyping the Yamaha Stage Custom, it has the same head issues as the Neusonics, as well as jam screw floor tom brackets, and the Ludwig has a much better tom bracket,/suspension/isolation system with the clamp-style Triad isolation mounts. I haven't looked at the Tama Superstars lately, but a friend had to return one of them recently due to unresolvable finish issues.

  • @Gretsch0997
    @Gretsch0997 6 років тому

    The snare is worth getting

  • @Thompsongs
    @Thompsongs 3 роки тому

    I'd have liked to have heard the bass drum with a mic inside. Generally I feel like you just get a muffled "whumfff" when you put a mic in front of an unported front bass head.

  • @juancarloszuniga5737
    @juancarloszuniga5737 5 років тому

    Queremos oir lo que venden tom de 12 tom 16 y bombo 20

  • @billlenderman3778
    @billlenderman3778 6 років тому

    How much in dollars & cents?

    • @MyDyerMaker
      @MyDyerMaker 6 років тому

      A 3-piece kit is $999 in the US.

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому

      I recently saw one (blue) at our local GC specially marked for $899.

  • @josephlefebvre9213
    @josephlefebvre9213 3 роки тому

    Now thats how you review drums.

  • @davshaw5
    @davshaw5 11 місяців тому +2

    Why do these companies put crap heads on their drums from the factory? Just ship them with NO heads…..

  • @roybeckerman9253
    @roybeckerman9253 4 роки тому +1

    For a similar price, I prefer the Gretsch Catalina, which comes with a matching snare.
    These don’t come with a snare.
    The Taiwanese made Catalinas, also have a warmer sound.
    These are USA made...not that it really makes a difference these days.

  • @giulianosfichi1507
    @giulianosfichi1507 6 років тому

    I came here for the kit, but I stayed for the snare.

  • @ocho611
    @ocho611 4 роки тому

    i could deal with the 'no rubber under the bass drum claw' thing, my kits have the old school vintage-y wing claws with no rubber. it's not unforgivable (especially if it's a cost cutting measure so we can afford them easier, etc), but it doesn't seem to be seeing as how expensive they still are. and i suppose it's peculiar that they'd put them on the lugs AND skip the claws. like, why not both, or neither? but the real issue for me is the bass drum hoops; that harsh friggin' blunt cut is a deal breaker. and leaving it unprotected like that? just exposed, porous wood? cold and moisture will seep right up in there and eat those hoops. it's insidious. and seriously, it looks like you just chopped off the bearing edge of your hoop and said 'fuck it', and threw the claws back on. tragic. it makes no sense. and again, even if it were a cost thing, no. that is not how and where you make concessions (and also, again, too, as well, it doesn't make sense because it doesn't seem to have cut any costs). i don't know, maybe i just don't get it...

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому

      The edges of the hoops are sealed with polyurethane, just like the Classic Maples. It's NOT raw wood..at least in the U.S. models.

  • @mjm5081
    @mjm5081 4 роки тому

    I dig the look and sound...Too bad about the construction...And those bass drum spurs give me the Willy's! 😨

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому +1

      Don't worry about the spurs. they appear to be the same ones that Ludwig used for the Signet series and I know folks that gig regularly with those and the spurs are holding up fine. For 2021; however, Ludwig has gone to a spur that resembles the "Elite" series spur, as used on the Classic Maples, etc (it may be the same one).

    • @mjm5081
      @mjm5081 3 роки тому

      @@Paisteconvert Thanks for the info 😃

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому +1

      @@mjm5081 Btw...regarding "construction.... I've taken several tours of the Ludwig plant and the Neusonic shells are made by the same employees in the same molds and with the same glue and RFST curing as ALL of their USA-made shells, including the much more expensive Legacy Mahoganys. Obviously the rack tom in this test shouldn't have been shipped with the glue residue, but we are talking here about a little glue, not a problem with the shell itself. I would also note that I recently saw a video of the top-line Yamaha kit being played by an endorser in a noted artist's video and was quite surprised to see a very obviously overlapped seam in the the White Marine Pearl finish on the rack tom...a seam that wasn't even lined up to be at least partially concealed by the lugs. I'd hate to think that I had payed $6K for such a kit.

    • @mjm5081
      @mjm5081 3 роки тому

      @@Paisteconvert 😃 👍

  • @blakegowan6623
    @blakegowan6623 6 років тому +2

    Fair review. Decent enough sound....but I would rather save my money for another Ludwig kit I like better. Nuesonic seems like the quality almost of Signet series or even Yamaha Stage Custom. I'm a Ludwig fan....but I'm staying away from this series.

  • @MaguSdelFiasco
    @MaguSdelFiasco 6 років тому +7

    LUDWIG: the best reason to play Yamaha

    • @21DaHoagie12
      @21DaHoagie12 5 років тому

      Yamaha: the best reason to play Yamaha 🤣

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому +2

      Yamaha has made some great drums and has gotten even better drums from Sakae that they labeled as "Yamaha;" however, ask yourself why so many Yamaha endorsers, including Steve Gadd and Larry Mullen, have used Ludwig snare drums? And just try to get replacement lugs, mounts or other hardware for a 10 or 15 year-old Yamaha kit. It's very likely that they have been discontinued and the newer replacements will likely require you to drill new holes in your shells (ran into this several times while working for a local Guitar Center). I'm currently rehabbing a 1969 Ludwig Standard kit and I can get NEW replacement hardware from Ludwig that fits the existing holes like the kit was made yesterday! In fact, I know a guy who had a 1950s-era WFL kit and the new Ludwig replacement hardware fit it the same way. Good luck!

  • @ronaldzeoli7528
    @ronaldzeoli7528 5 років тому

    I do think the Ludwig neusonic are good but they do need to be improved and a bit more improved Hardware especially the legs and I also agree with you on the rubber between the claws in the hoop. I did think the shells and color applied need to be better quality .
    Perhaps they need to build them in asia, the quality might be better
    And they would also be at a setter price point. This was a good honest review.

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому

      The 2021 Neusonics have Elite spurs, just like the ones available on the Classic Maples, Legacy Maples, etc. The color isn't "applied." It's part of the finish ply... like a Sonor SQ2.

  • @thekitowl
    @thekitowl 6 років тому

    I liked the sound of this kit , but something about it looks cheap. The Sakae kits sound similar and have a great selection of finishes , so there’s strong competition at this price point. Shame about the cheap skins.

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому

      The "cheapness" that you're perceiving may well be because of the color/finish on this kit. Take a look at the Satinwood finish: www.ludwig-drums.com/en-us/ludwig/products/drumkits/neusonic

  • @m.christian-budd6964
    @m.christian-budd6964 Рік тому

    The snare sounds great but overpowers the kit. A 5.5 or wood shell wood have been a better match. Otherwise very helpful.

  • @chiefwarrior2567
    @chiefwarrior2567 5 років тому

    They should’ve made that 12 rack tom 9 inches deep to really complement that 16x16

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому

      Not a traditional USA drum size. 8x12 is.

  • @jamesberlo4298
    @jamesberlo4298 6 років тому

    Ludwig needs to be independently owned & run.

  • @0650-j2z
    @0650-j2z 2 роки тому

    why do these people just read advertising and act like they have knowledge of the product.

  • @raphaelzombie2
    @raphaelzombie2 5 років тому +1

    Shit are we supposed to say ludvig

  • @M123OCT
    @M123OCT 6 років тому +6

    Ludwig are living on past glories. There appears to be no pride in their product, and the finish on that kit looks crap. There's just too much good, well-priced competition out there to try and sell kits such as this in that price range. I had a Ludwig kit back in the 80s, and it was pretty good. Now I have one single Ludwig drum, a recent Black Beauty, and even that is pretty shoddily finished.

    • @MyDyerMaker
      @MyDyerMaker 6 років тому +2

      I never thought about playing Ludwigs until I played a friend's kit a few years ago. I sold my Starclassics and bought a new Classic Maple kit. The Classic Maples are the best sounding drums I've ever played and the fit and finish was perfect. Sound guys like them- just mic and go.

    • @hipgroove68
      @hipgroove68 5 років тому +1

      @@MyDyerMaker I agree...USA maple sound killer!
      No 1 drums used in Nashville recordings.

    • @MyDyerMaker
      @MyDyerMaker 5 років тому +1

      @@hipgroove68 I still love my Classic Maples, but I probably need to amend my previous statement because I also love the sound of the Keystone X drums. The Keystones are more powerful and fatter. The Classic Maples may have slightly more tone though. If you're in the market for new drums try playing a Keystone X with a 24-in kick.

  • @drumfanatik316
    @drumfanatik316 5 років тому

    You guys couldn’t be more right about those cheap Remo UT heads. They’re horrible. They come stock on Mapex Armory kits as well. They were just dreadful to say the least. Switched them out for some real Remo Emperors and those drums sounded amazing. I’ve heard this kit with good heads and it sounded great! I just don’t understand why any company, regardless what level the kit is, don’t come with decent heads? Heads to me are probably the least inexpensive thing on a kit and these companies like Ludwig get them at a huge discount! For $1000 here in the U.S., for a 3pc. kit, they should definitely come with better heads. Another thing you mentioned in the review was the lack of protection between the bass drum claw and hoop! I don’t understand it either? Even their pro level kits don’t have that but you can get the for mentioned Armory kit and it has all the bells and whistles! That said, I still love Ludwig just wish they would Up their game a little?

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому

      Excuse me, but Ludwig's upper-level kits come with insulators/rubber pieces on the claws. My 2005 Classic Maple kick has them (Elite-style die-cast claws) as does my 2018 Legacy Mahogany (Classic-style claws). Where do you do your research?

    • @drumfanatik316
      @drumfanatik316 3 роки тому

      @@Paisteconvert you’re talking the cream of the crop when it comes to the Legacy series and the classic maple. I had a classic maple kit a few years ago, and more recently a Keystone X, now rebranded Classic Oak, and neither of them had rubber insulators to protect the hoops. Maybe it was because they were wraps and not lacquer finishes? But for the money I shelled out for them, you would’ve thought they would’ve came with it? They may have recently changed this but in 2017 when I bought the Keystone kit they did not. The Neusonics also don’t have them. I don’t care what manufacturer you are, besides your entry level kits, the rest of the lines of drums should have them!!!

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому

      @@drumfanatik316 Funny, but I'm looking at three Ludwig Elite-style die-cast claws, one off my 2005 Classic Maple kick and two in a parts package that I picked up on "clearance" at Guitar Center. The one off my 2005 Classic Maple kick has felt squares glued on where the claw would bear on the hoop, while the two in the parts package have no felts or other insulation. The 2005 kick has been in my family since it was originally purchased and I know that it's claws came with the felts as OEM. It may be a difference in sub-contracted sourcing of hardware. My 2018 Legacy Mahogany (Classic-style claws) definitely has rubber insulators and are one of your claw choices for both the Classic Maple and Classic Oak (former-Keystone series) on the Ludwig "Outfitter/Configurator. And btw...whether your Ludwig drums are wrapped, stained or lacquered the claw options are the same...you can definitely have claws with rubber insulators. After all, all the Ludwig drum lines above the Neusonics are "custom ordered" and you now have choices for the bearing edges of the individual drums in your kit... a truly "custom" feature.

    • @drumfanatik316
      @drumfanatik316 3 роки тому

      @@Paisteconvert that may be the case now, I’m just saying when the Oaks were Keystones, there were no custom options! Had there of been, I may have kept mine? Just something missing about them?

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому +1

      @@drumfanatik316 One of the "improvements" in the Keystones now becoming a "Classic" line is the range of options and hardware quality available from Ludwig. The Keystones were originally a lower-priced line of USA-manufactured drums (less expensive hardware...like no insulators on the claws), but as price-points have moved and with the advent of the still lower-priced Neusonics, the Keystone's shell have been moved into the "Classic" category. The molds used are the same ones used for all of Ludwig's "Classic" lines (and even the Neusonics) and are, actually, the ones that were used in the original Ludwig plant in Chicago from the early-mid 1970s until the entire operation moved to Monroe, NC in that early 1980s. Tympani production; however, remained in Chicago until about 2010.

  • @weschilton
    @weschilton 4 роки тому +1

    For the only about $80 more than the price of this you can get a MUCH better executed 7 piece Tama superstar classic kit, with a snare drum!

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому

      Just had a friend that returned his Superstars due to recurring issues with the wrap. Unfortunately, no company is totally immune from QC issues, but maybe ya'll get better assembled Superstars in the U.K.

  • @bretwescott118
    @bretwescott118 11 місяців тому

    The floor Tom is a major disappointment, especially when considering the great boom of the bass drum.

  • @Andrew3154
    @Andrew3154 6 років тому +2

    The toms sound like cardboard boxes. Bass was okay. I would never pay that price for them.
    Thank you for your frank review.

    • @MaguSdelFiasco
      @MaguSdelFiasco 6 років тому

      actually they do... And i'm listening with Sennheiser Momentum 2.0 OVER EAR

  • @theDeathJoy
    @theDeathJoy 4 роки тому

    So all in all not worth the value? Shell itself is great but horrendous heads and hardware.

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому

      The clamp-style Triad isolation mounts are considered to be "breakthroughs"... hardly horrendous.

  • @Mike_Webb78
    @Mike_Webb78 5 років тому +1

    Judging these kits w the shitty stock heads is not right. Ya'll know damn well 99% of everyone will change the heads....so dumb...

    • @toddcapiton6285
      @toddcapiton6285 Рік тому

      Every other review does. These just sound bad and missed the mark

  • @davidbethke381
    @davidbethke381 6 років тому

    Wow, I can't believe how terribly done that seam was

  • @eatsleepdrums
    @eatsleepdrums 6 років тому

    To my ears, this drum kit doesn't sound anything wike that I'd expect a Ludwig kit to sound like. It's totally devoid of any character. I know it's a different wood configuration than their classic maple series and is obviously aimed at a lower end of the market (despite it's price) but it does nothing for me at all and that's coming from a Ludwig fanatic!

  • @dan6361
    @dan6361 5 років тому

    Ouch.... Ludwig didn't do their job....

  • @davidsuprenant893
    @davidsuprenant893 6 років тому

    This was a bad move from ludwig,I think.Most of there SALES these days come from a couple of there snare lines and the Ludwig classic drum kits.If they think these will sell just because it says made in the usa,there wrong.For a 1000 dollars you can buy a really good 3 piece kit brand new from over seas.These folks from tama,pearl,and mapex have really stepped up there game.And don't forget DW performance kits if you need it to be built in usa.for a few hundred more.

    • @volodia1140
      @volodia1140 6 років тому

      Could you recommend me one in particular?

    • @davidsuprenant893
      @davidsuprenant893 6 років тому

      @@volodia1140 pearl session studio is a great kit.made from mahogany and birch.optimount tom mounts,and beautiful lacquer finishes.For the money it's one of the best buys out there.check them out.

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому

      @@davidsuprenant893 Optimounts? The least adjustable mounts in the industry (they've certainly helped sell more rack systems than any other mounts)? Optimounts that require not one, but Two side-by-side holes in the kick drum shell (since I gig with my drums I strongly prefer kick-mounted toms...not attached to cymbal stands). And if you get a Pearl wrap kit (I like the sparkly wraps...and they're much more serviceable than lacquer), be aware that they're not fully glued onto the shells, even in their "Masters" series (that was a real shocker when I started working at a Guitar Center). The NeuSonic's "color" ply is an actual ply, like a Sonor SQ2. An btw...the DW Performance kit is priced (in the USA) competitively with Ludwig's Classic Maple line...not the NeuSonics...and the Classic Maple line is custom ordered with at least two styles of lugs, multiple claw choices, mount choices, spur choices and up to 40+ finish choices...totally opposite to DW's Performance series.

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому

      The DW Performance kit is priced (in the USA) competitively with Ludwig's Classic Maple line...not the NeuSonics...and the Classic Maple line is custom ordered with at least two choices for lugs, multiple claw choices, mount choices, spur choices, even bearing edges and up to 40+ finish choices...totally opposite to the "packaged" DW Performance series.

  • @rhythmista7707
    @rhythmista7707 6 років тому

    Got a close look at these drums, and there's not much to be desired. This is coming from a ludwig fan, and drummer whos owned 60s, 70s and 80s ludwig kits..I even had a 1st genration Rocker series kit with the classic lugs, standard depths, and ludcoat interior finish, and it sounded way better than these. The finish on this kit looks cheap, but Ludwig claims it's incredibly durable, hardware is decent and lightweight, but looks like a cheaper version of the classic hardware. Definitely NOT worth the price point. Many drums out there that sound 100x better and for a lot less. Case in point, Yamaha's Stage Custom drums, and Sonor's AQ 1 and 2 series at around the same price as this kit. People who will purchase this series from Ludwig will soon be selling them used at less than 7 or even $600. Would make a nice rehearsal kit, or even a spare for smaller venues or gigs. But to claim this is a high quality, pro sounding kit at a low cost, is plain false advertising.

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому

      Sure, Rhythmista (if I had a sarcasm font I'd use it here). I've been a Ludwig admirer since the 1960s and a player of their USA Classic Maples since 2014. I'm currently rehabbing a 1969 Ludwig Standard kit with large Classic lugs, arch spurs, "Rocker" tom mount, etc Those Yamaha Stage Customs will come with Remo UT heads just like the Neusonics (I have a Yamaha brochure that talks about them as if they're an "upgrade") and jam screws securing the tom legs (Ludwig discontinued those in the late-1960s) and without the clamp-style Triad isolation tom brackets. The finish ply on the NeuSonics is the same sort of ply finish as Sonor uses on their SQ2, though I agree with you that the matte finish on the white and blue ones isn't very attractive (the Satinwood looks a LOT BETTER!) ... but it does look to be a lot more durable than a lacquer or stained finish. And YES, the hardware on the Neusonics is likely a lighter and cheaper version of Ludwig's hardware (though the 2021 Neusonics have Elite-style spurs) ... just as your early-1980s Rocker series kit had cheaper lugs, claws, and other hardware in order to meet a price point (but using the same molds that were used in Chicago with updated glues and curing). Your Rockers were even made in the Monroe, NC plant in an effort to keep labor costs down. As for sound; however, I've heard and played on the Neusonics and even with the OEM Chinese Remos they sound good. They sound much, much better; however, with better heads....even "pro" level? And btw...Ludwig only offered their proprietary WeatherMaster heads when I ordered my 2013-14 "pro-level" Classic Maples (the only higher-level Ludwig kit offered at the time was the Legacy Maple series) and I IMMEDIATELY took them off, put them in a box, and replaced them with Evans G2s on the toms and an EQ4 on the kick batter. And while we're talking, if I'm going to purchase a Sonor anything, it'll be a Sonor made in Germany....NOT China. What's the point of buying Sonor if it's just another China-sourced kit (not to mention the PRCs oppressive societal/economic issues)?

  • @Mike_Webb78
    @Mike_Webb78 5 років тому +4

    Meinl cymbals with Ludwig drums....WRONG!!!!!!....

  • @scottlowell493
    @scottlowell493 5 років тому

    The "UT" in Remo UT stands for "Utter Trash". The have all the sonic alacrity of a sandwich bag. I'm honestly sick to death of sloppy quality drums. The only "intermediate" drums I trust are probably Tama and Yamaha. The rest all seem to have obvious shell flaws and cut corners too much. Even Sonor force has shipped some subpar shells. Entry/intermediate level pearl hardware is fragile too. This kit isn't on the same level as a Yamaha stage custom or Tama Superstar classic. Hardware, quality etc. are too compromised.

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому

      Excuse me, but I'm VERY familiar with the Yamaha Stage Customs having worked at a local Guitar Center for awhile and being in and out of music stores on at least a monthly basis. Yamaha Stage Customs come with Remo UT heads just like the Neusonics (I have a Yamaha brochure that talks about them as if they're an "upgrade?!") and jam screws securing the tom legs (Ludwig discontinued those in the late-1960s) and without the clamp-style Triad isolation tom brackets. Does anyone really think that YESS is comparable in isolation to a RIMS-type mount? The Ludwig Triad mount is...by oscilloscopic and sonic measurement. And to what "shell flaws" are you referring...a little glue where the finish ply seam meets? There are no indications that the Neusonic shells themselves are of "sub-par" construction. I've taken several tours of the Ludwig plant and the Neusonic shells are made by the same employees in the same molds and with the same glue and RFST curing as ALL of their USA-made shells, including the much more expensive Legacy Mahoganys. You're correct; however, that the Neusonics AREN'T on the same level as the Stage Customs...they're MUCH BETTER...especially with upgraded heads.

  • @roybeckerman9253
    @roybeckerman9253 5 років тому

    About the same as Gretsch Catalinas, which I think sound better.
    Poor heads don’t do Ludwig any favours.
    Not a good comment for Ludwig...they should be embarrassed.

    • @ohrid59mk76
      @ohrid59mk76 4 роки тому

      please Roy , stop about Gretsch Catalinas , please !

    • @roybeckerman9253
      @roybeckerman9253 4 роки тому

      OHRID59MK
      They are big sellers these days, so must be doing something right.

    • @ohrid59mk76
      @ohrid59mk76 4 роки тому

      @@roybeckerman9253 nothing wrong with Catalina , but this is video about Ludwig Neusonic drums .

    • @roybeckerman9253
      @roybeckerman9253 4 роки тому

      OHRID59MK
      Yes, I play 60s vintage Ludwig...great sounding drums.

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 роки тому +1

      Gretsch Catalinas? A well-priced kit, but ultimately just another PRC-sourced drum set. And don't give me that propaganda about "the great Gretsch sound." I'm old enough to remember the round-badge classics and I'm also well-aware that Gretsch stopped making their own shells in the early-1950s. They bought them from Jasper and Keller, just like a plethora of other drum makers over the decades. Gretsch has been a "drum assembler" as opposed to a "drum manufacturer" since the mid-1950s. Nothing really special. And btw...the sacred "silver sealer" is nothing more than galvanized post paint.

  • @tazzinasellout7968
    @tazzinasellout7968 3 місяці тому

    Today....3000€.😮

  • @ronaldperry
    @ronaldperry Рік тому

    I am sure they are the lowest price USA made drums. They have up graded spurs. Different finishes too.

  • @lentzintl
    @lentzintl 6 років тому +32

    I finally realized that you are the bass player for Periphery. I love this channel, you guys do incredible reviews!