I went from a MT-07 to a MT10 within a year of first learning how to ride and ride. I just respect every thing about the bikes man and take it easy. The fun part to me I’m the torque and taking off from a stop light and getting on it, not top speed.
The fz09 is one of three bikes I have. I like your review and I like the fz. I sold my Ducati x diavel to buy the fz. Although not as quick the fz is more fun and better handling. I ride fairly aggressively when I feel like it but no wheelies for me. At 73 I may be slowing down a bit.
Maybe you should get your dad involved in your UA-cam Channel and we can get his review also, Plus it will help you do a more honest review! You and your Dad doing something together will be cool! 👍👍
A new JMG video! Love seeing the FZ-09 content! I went from a clapped out GS-550F to my Bolt R-Spec to an '09 R6 to my '14 FZ-09. It's all about the respect for that particular bike. Just not going ham on the throttle all the time and putting yourself in a bad situation. I do believe anyone COULD start on my bike, but I would never recommend it. If someone told me they started on a 09, I'd call them crazy but maybe it just speaks to their discipline and self control.
Man that online 3 growl sounds so Awesome!!!! Great video Jon , and after almost 30 years of riding ( street ) I am a firm believer that unless a new rider ( on the street ) should start out on a powerful bike ( anything over 500cc ) because they will very quickly and undoubtedly feel the need to twist that throttle to far , too soon and can end up in a bad situation or worse . Now if they grew up riding dirt bikes or quads , threewheelers , then ya I say pretty much they'll be able to pretty much handle themselves ( depending doing on their amount of dirt riding experience ) But all in all it's that twist of the wrist that generally gets people into trouble too often , when they 're not experienced , or a beginner rider . Really enjoyed listening to that mean growl coming g from that Mt09 , and as always bro , enjoyed the content . Also agree with the guy that said it would be cool to see you and your pops doing some riding together 👍 Take care Jon , and may the good Lord watch over you everytime you throw a leg over your bikes 🙏
hey john. longtime fan and fellow chandler resident. i experienced this exact thing last weekend. i've only been riding since december when my gf and i got our endorsement. still don't have my own bike but i've rented a few times. went to an indian demo day and decided to try the FTR. figured if it was too gnarly i'll just stop before i leave the parking lot. but with proper respect for the bike i had a blast. even with my first group ride and first time on the freeway.
It took me awhile to get used to the throttle, but I have discovered B MODE is best for wheelies. I can throttle up in 3rd gear at 65mph easily or 2nd gear around 40mph. When I try in A MODE or STD the front end doesn't come up. I do have a ZX-6R rear shock though, the stocker just compresses and you lose that energy. Best mod I've done is Hurricane Bars
I’ve got FZ09 ‘16 and it’s a blast each time I take it out for a spin around the block, but I will admit it sometimes can be risky with the throttle if you don’t respect it.
Ive had mine for a year and Im just now starting B mode wheelies and they scare the shit outta me. Ive learned to tame the bike and rips every ounce of performance out of it without the wheel coming up more than a few inches, but now I want to learn to do some power wheelies
Been considering an FZ09/MT09 (currently have an FZ07) for the fact that it handles the freeway better. Something just feels off when the flow of traffic is 75-85 mph and I'm trying to cruise. Just feels like the top end of the bike isn't really stable. Have been starting to commute more as the weather starts to cool down here in FL and when ever I get on the freeway I think to myself man this would feel way better on an MT09 or CB1000r or another similar higher displacement naked... something that can smoothly cruise in that speed range. Love the FZ07 for everything else it rips like mad
The new gen 2021 and up is super nice and is beginner rider friendly IN MODE 4 any of the other modes are insane, I got one after riding a grom for 8 months and I’ve had no issues with the power even going into more powerful modes
Go get it tuned and you can tame the throttle down a little bit to make wheelies easier. I have a 14 which is the twitchiest model. Its still not as bad as what people like to make it out to be, butttt.... I want to get it tuned solely for more controlled wheelies lol
Be careful on her I have one 2014 fz09 and I have been down two times, yes cold ground played a part in it so I'll never ride her in weather under 50" I would tell anyone to ride her on B mode if it cold outside
I went from an MT-125 to MT-07 to MT-09 SP in 3 years. I'd say the 07 and 09 (particularly the 09) are much less of the crazy monsters that people make them out to be. A rider's gonna have to learn appropriate throttle control for whatever bike they find themselves on. The 07 wanted to power wheelie everywhere for the first week, the 09 rarely does 'em (but maybe that's just because I learned throttle control on the 07). You could do a training course on a 600-700cc bike, get your licence and be perfectly comfortable on an MT-07. The 09 would be an alright first bike if you ride it in standard mode for a while and are careful with throttle, but low speed control is gonna be a much steeper learning curve. Low speed control with that much power is the main reason not to go for an 09 as an inexperienced rider
A damper helps, but really the bike is just not a good 100+ machine. It's a city and back road weapon. The wheelbase, chassis and cheap suspension just aren't really for sustained high speed riding on highways or fast tracks. Tight tracks or b-roads though? Absolute monster.
2021 mt09 have address the twitchy throttle from what i've read and watched, but we can't take their word for it until owner reviews start coming out...
Gen 1 Mt09 is a beast of a bike. hands down the baddest naked to come out at the time. no abs no tc..no nothing. modes on a mt09 make no difference in the power you still have the same power full throttle in b mode..just eases you up on it if you want a lighter throttle and a mode is dark side of japan mode...so glad i own a mt09 tracer that i can switch on certain stuff and it makes her such a tame beast in chains. look after her. recon the gen 1 will become rather collectable down the line.
It's doable as a starter bike for a new rider. But...when thinking about facilitating rider growth and development, it's not ideal in our humble opinion. 👨👩👧❤
The UK is so different when it comes to motorcycles, beginner bikes are generally 125cc. I always see american motorcycle channels recommending 600s ect. I personally started on a 50cc road bike lol suzuki ts50. Think I would of shat myself starting on anything bigger than a 125 imo
As an older guy who owns the MT09 I 100% agree. The bikes throttle takes a little getting use to but once you have that feel it’s predictable My 2 cents for whatever that’s worth
Not big fan of wheelies have TWO Custom MT09 and a Custom SXR900 all 2018. Live in the land of twisies and unreal views. TWO totally different bikes the MT09 and SXR900. Love the twisties, great handling, light, fast, comfortable so easy to work on all 3 bikes. The SXR900 is a little taller, sexier, totally differant and feel, the front fork is better than MT09 more of a mental cruiser feel, laid back with that hell with it rocket ship when you want it and just as insane as MT09, the SXR stock seat is the best OEM seat I have seen in long time. The ECU is different giving the SXR900 a laid back mature feel were the MT09 ECU it is a straight rocket ship fell that says get it on, must flash the ECU's, I have the sadleman 93 stunt seat on both MT's no better seat for the MT09 feels great can ride all day and when you let it loose you can only go so far back with this seat that gives you more confidence like I'm not hanging on for dear life, like a little cockpit your sitting in. I ride like a nut and don't know how but pull 45-50 mpg which blows me away. SXR LEO VANCE DUEL exhaust, MT09 the full M4 Black and the full Apro Race exhaust K@N air filters all around with air box mode and quick shifter on both MT's and loads of parts. SXR comes with full carbon fiber body kit and full Anniversary Yamaha yellow body kit, MT09's have a full carbon fiber kit for one bike but Cobalt Blue Candy metal flake Yamaha blue rim's clear coated and other is Custom Red Candy metal flake with Yamaha Yellow rim, and Candy Red Rim and two sets of black rim's all cleared and ceramic coated to make so easy to keep them all clean. Both MT09's have front and rear stunt cages in Hi Flow yellow.
dude i dont know why you didnt like it from the beginning the MT09 is a fucking awesome bike!! love mine!! and i never go back to sport or something else!!
I don't think there is anything wrong saying mt09 isn't for beginners. I think many dealerships would steer you away from one of they knew you were new
Heh Seduced by the Asian dragon lady 😉 Nice little canyon scratcher; friends in SoCal love theirs If you plan on keeping her, you might want to consider getting a reflash www.vcyclenut.com/store/p2/2014-2020__MT%2FFZ%2FFJ-09%2FXSR900%2FGT_900_tracer_custom_flash.html
If you have some common sense, the ability to reign yourself in and ride safely, it is do able as a first bigger bike for the majority.... even more so on the gen3. If you don't have these abilities, then no... it can and will most likely bite you. It requires some respect.
Alright so first off, takes a lot for a man to admit he’s wrong so hats off for that..love the mt 09 and will be buying the 21 standard once I can find one..coming from a Harley 48 which is completely different, I’ll have to take my time learning and getting adjusted..secondly, what is the difference between the FZ and MT please?? Total Yamaha noob here..
Internationally, Yamaha called this line of Bikes "MT". Domestically, they were called "FZ" up to 2018 when they changed to "MT" to match the international name. "Master of Torque".
The FZ09/MT09 is "not" a beginner bike in regards that the suspension is shit for the amount of power this bike makes. It is not balanced Beginner riders grasp the bars too hard which turn into tankslappers when turning the throttle extremely hard. It has a short wheelbase, soft suspension (stock) and a ginormous amount of torque and adding a twitchy throttle is a recipe for fun and disaster. Thrilling bike tho, always brings a bigass smile on my face
Yeahhhhh it's not that crazy, go ride a 1000 super sport. Gsxr 1000, ZX10r s1000rr. They're crazy. I've had a fz09 since 2015 and rode a gsxr 1k for the first time 2 years ago and it blew my mind. Rediculous motorcycle.
If you wanna learn wheelies... buy an mt07... if you don't care about wheelies and have a lil experience atleast, buy mt09... mistakes on mt07 could very well be more consequential on an 09.. Jon's just justifying keeping the bike for a longer amount of time at this point as he becomes more comfortable but he's also a really good experienced rider.. mt09 top speed isn't even that much faster then a flashed 07.. just a lil faster acceleration.. I was going to buy an 09 last year but I ended up getting an 07 instead for alot of different reason and I'm really happy with it tbh.. I could see myself content for like 3-5 years... but the right mt09 comes along for the right price ima buy it.
I have the 2021 which is much more refined and not as twitchy on the throttle. I absolutely love it. I’m not a wheelie person. I don’t mind if the front tire comes up but I’m not out here chasing wheelies. I’m a day in the mountains carving up some twisties guy. I will say I have a lot of respect for the animal it is so I ride it more reasonably than my Harley which I beat the absolute piss out of because unless you’re outriding the brake potential, it’s hard to get into trouble with it. But it’s to be expected. The Harley is 99 Mustang GT fast, the MT-09 is Corvette Z06 fast
Problem is, you can respect the bike and still get yourself killed by being in way over your head. I own one, and personally, I would never recommend it to a beginner.
@@eltoast Different people learn in different ways. I've known beginners that started on GSXR1100s and never wrecked, and seen more than 1 250 not make it across the street from the dealer and get totalled.
I went from a MT-07 to a MT10 within a year of first learning how to ride and ride. I just respect every thing about the bikes man and take it easy. The fun part to me I’m the torque and taking off from a stop light and getting on it, not top speed.
Are you still alive?
The fz09 is one of three bikes I have. I like your review and I like the fz. I sold my Ducati x diavel to buy the fz. Although not as quick the fz is more fun and better handling. I ride fairly aggressively when I feel like it but no wheelies for me. At 73 I may be slowing down a bit.
Maybe you should get your dad involved in your UA-cam Channel and we can get his review also, Plus it will help you do a more honest review!
You and your Dad doing something together will be cool!
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This comment aged super well
A new JMG video! Love seeing the FZ-09 content! I went from a clapped out GS-550F to my Bolt R-Spec to an '09 R6 to my '14 FZ-09. It's all about the respect for that particular bike. Just not going ham on the throttle all the time and putting yourself in a bad situation. I do believe anyone COULD start on my bike, but I would never recommend it. If someone told me they started on a 09, I'd call them crazy but maybe it just speaks to their discipline and self control.
Fz09 is my second bike, jumped from a 286cc cbr300 after 4 months and I'm loving it
Man that online 3 growl sounds so Awesome!!!! Great video Jon , and after almost 30 years of riding ( street ) I am a firm believer that unless a new rider ( on the street ) should start out on a powerful bike ( anything over 500cc ) because they will very quickly and undoubtedly feel the need to twist that throttle to far , too soon and can end up in a bad situation or worse . Now if they grew up riding dirt bikes or quads , threewheelers , then ya I say pretty much they'll be able to pretty much handle themselves ( depending doing on their amount of dirt riding experience ) But all in all it's that twist of the wrist that generally gets people into trouble too often , when they 're not experienced , or a beginner rider .
Really enjoyed listening to that mean growl coming g from that Mt09 , and as always bro , enjoyed the content . Also agree with the guy that said it would be cool to see you and your pops doing some riding together 👍 Take care Jon , and may the good Lord watch over you everytime you throw a leg over your bikes 🙏
I really like your drive and talk approach.
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Glad you changed your mind ... it was my first bike and I'm still in love 6,000 miles in one year
Thanks so much. I’m buying one tomorrow as my first bike and this video made me a lot more excited.
I'm glad you took it back..I had it for 2 years and it's the bomb 💣.
I've also spent aprox. 3500€ in upgrades though.
Love the retrospective thoughts.
hey john. longtime fan and fellow chandler resident. i experienced this exact thing last weekend. i've only been riding since december when my gf and i got our endorsement. still don't have my own bike but i've rented a few times. went to an indian demo day and decided to try the FTR. figured if it was too gnarly i'll just stop before i leave the parking lot. but with proper respect for the bike i had a blast. even with my first group ride and first time on the freeway.
For me it's all about the acceleration that would make that bike fun. I don't want to do wheelies. But I'd love to jut twist the throttle and go!
It took me awhile to get used to the throttle, but I have discovered B MODE is best for wheelies. I can throttle up in 3rd gear at 65mph easily or 2nd gear around 40mph. When I try in A MODE or STD the front end doesn't come up. I do have a ZX-6R rear shock though, the stocker just compresses and you lose that energy. Best mod I've done is Hurricane Bars
I have the 2016 fz-09 I absolutely love it I plan on trading for the newer one soon absolutely the most fun I have ever had on a motorcycle
Glad you you took time to respect and evolved to enjoy 😉
I’ve got FZ09 ‘16 and it’s a blast each time I take it out for a spin around the block, but I will admit it sometimes can be risky with the throttle if you don’t respect it.
Ive had mine for a year and Im just now starting B mode wheelies and they scare the shit outta me. Ive learned to tame the bike and rips every ounce of performance out of it without the wheel coming up more than a few inches, but now I want to learn to do some power wheelies
You make so many things good .
I want to see you ride the new Rebel 1100, preferably the DCT model.
Been considering an FZ09/MT09 (currently have an FZ07) for the fact that it handles the freeway better. Something just feels off when the flow of traffic is 75-85 mph and I'm trying to cruise. Just feels like the top end of the bike isn't really stable. Have been starting to commute more as the weather starts to cool down here in FL and when ever I get on the freeway I think to myself man this would feel way better on an MT09 or CB1000r or another similar higher displacement naked... something that can smoothly cruise in that speed range. Love the FZ07 for everything else it rips like mad
The new gen 2021 and up is super nice and is beginner rider friendly IN MODE 4 any of the other modes are insane, I got one after riding a grom for 8 months and I’ve had no issues with the power even going into more powerful modes
Eey Jon que pasa
Miss weather like that :(
Waiting on the snow to melt so I can go for a ride again,been a while
Hes back
Damn right from the start when u turned the bike on and took off like that I was like damn its got some power
I had one for eight years, first gen FZ09. 2014. I kept it 8 years and 60k miles Great bike
Go get it tuned and you can tame the throttle down a little bit to make wheelies easier. I have a 14 which is the twitchiest model. Its still not as bad as what people like to make it out to be, butttt.... I want to get it tuned solely for more controlled wheelies lol
I've had an FJ-09 for a few years. It's crazy powerful, but I've gotten used to it and have no plans to get rid of it.
Just got one 2 weeks ago after owning a z125 for 3 months and I feel comfortable on it
Be careful on her I have one 2014 fz09 and I have been down two times, yes cold ground played a part in it so I'll never ride her in weather under 50" I would tell anyone to ride her on B mode if it cold outside
Hah! I knew I recognized that road. I lived in Cantera, the apartment complex on Pecos/Ellis. Road my FZ09 there nearly every day for 14 months
I went from an MT-125 to MT-07 to MT-09 SP in 3 years. I'd say the 07 and 09 (particularly the 09) are much less of the crazy monsters that people make them out to be. A rider's gonna have to learn appropriate throttle control for whatever bike they find themselves on. The 07 wanted to power wheelie everywhere for the first week, the 09 rarely does 'em (but maybe that's just because I learned throttle control on the 07). You could do a training course on a 600-700cc bike, get your licence and be perfectly comfortable on an MT-07. The 09 would be an alright first bike if you ride it in standard mode for a while and are careful with throttle, but low speed control is gonna be a much steeper learning curve. Low speed control with that much power is the main reason not to go for an 09 as an inexperienced rider
Good video
The MT10 is what I would like to ride , I am sure this one is a hoot though !
Hey where do you get your gloves? They always look super cool especially the ones with the American flag 👍🏼
His recent videos are Rebel Reaper gloves. The link is in the description.
Hey Jon, does this bike have any notable mods (suspension, etc.)
Jon your dad come from the old days when they start making inline 3 and inline 4 cylinder bikes
What brand crash bars are those? I want a set too!
Where are the cars!? I've never seen roads so empty!
Love this bike
It sounds like you're saying, "I think a lot of people could ride it and live". 🤣🤣🤣
What dampener is that and what bars
can you say how much of a difference the steering damper makes? mine is unstable at 110+ . want one but they're expensive.
A damper helps, but really the bike is just not a good 100+ machine. It's a city and back road weapon. The wheelbase, chassis and cheap suspension just aren't really for sustained high speed riding on highways or fast tracks. Tight tracks or b-roads though? Absolute monster.
Bro where you been
2021 mt09 have address the twitchy throttle from what i've read and watched, but we can't take their word for it until owner reviews start coming out...
Gen 1 Mt09 is a beast of a bike. hands down the baddest naked to come out at the time. no abs no tc..no nothing. modes on a mt09 make no difference in the power you still have the same power full throttle in b mode..just eases you up on it if you want a lighter throttle and a mode is dark side of japan mode...so glad i own a mt09 tracer that i can switch on certain stuff and it makes her such a tame beast in chains.
look after her. recon the gen 1 will become rather collectable down the line.
Is there different rider modes? To make throttle less twitchy
Yes.
I think this is a power wheelie bike, not a clutch up wheelie bike.. if you think of it like that, its never really scary
It's doable as a starter bike for a new rider. But...when thinking about facilitating rider growth and development, it's not ideal in our humble opinion.
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I agree! Kind of like learning to drive in a corvette. Lol.
@@JonsMotoGarage 😀👍
Like Jon said "respect the machine"
The UK is so different when it comes to motorcycles, beginner bikes are generally 125cc. I always see american motorcycle channels recommending 600s ect. I personally started on a 50cc road bike lol suzuki ts50. Think I would of shat myself starting on anything bigger than a 125 imo
As an older guy who owns the MT09 I 100% agree. The bikes throttle takes a little getting use to but once you have that feel it’s predictable My 2 cents for whatever that’s worth
Not big fan of wheelies have TWO Custom MT09 and a Custom SXR900 all 2018. Live in the land of twisies and unreal views. TWO totally different bikes the MT09 and SXR900. Love the twisties, great handling, light, fast, comfortable so easy to work on all 3 bikes. The SXR900 is a little taller, sexier, totally differant and feel, the front fork is better than MT09 more of a mental cruiser feel, laid back with that hell with it rocket ship when you want it and just as insane as MT09, the SXR stock seat is the best OEM seat I have seen in long time. The ECU is different giving the SXR900 a laid back mature feel were the MT09 ECU it is a straight rocket ship fell that says get it on, must flash the ECU's, I have the sadleman 93 stunt seat on both MT's no better seat for the MT09 feels great can ride all day and when you let it loose you can only go so far back with this seat that gives you more confidence like I'm not hanging on for dear life, like a little cockpit your sitting in. I ride like a nut and don't know how but pull 45-50 mpg which blows me away. SXR LEO VANCE DUEL exhaust, MT09 the full M4 Black and the full Apro Race exhaust K@N air filters all around with air box mode and quick shifter on both MT's and loads of parts. SXR comes with full carbon fiber body kit and full Anniversary Yamaha yellow body kit, MT09's have a full carbon fiber kit for one bike but Cobalt Blue Candy metal flake Yamaha blue rim's clear coated and other is Custom Red Candy metal flake with Yamaha Yellow rim, and Candy Red Rim and two sets of black rim's all cleared and ceramic coated to make so easy to keep them all clean. Both MT09's have front and rear stunt cages in Hi Flow yellow.
dude i dont know why you didnt like it from the beginning the MT09 is a fucking awesome bike!! love mine!! and i never go back to sport or something else!!
It was never that I didn't like it - just that I didn't feel comfortable on it. 🤙💯
Are my eyes playing tricks on me or did that fz have 100k miles on it
i have ride so many bike like z800 k1600GT Multistrada 1200, versys 1000, but now I haven't try this monster torque bike
I went from a 450l supermoto to fz09.. it's not that bad as a second bike 😅
Ha ha ha !! I meant " Inline 3 " oops 😁
I feel this bike is like a lighter and smaller Kawasaki ZX14R. It has the same ride feel
The FZ/MT-09 is still an angry unpredictable bike; you might like it or not.
I don't think there is anything wrong saying mt09 isn't for beginners. I think many dealerships would steer you away from one of they knew you were new
Az Bike Life if you are a beginner start out on a Yamaha xj650 / 750 Kawasaki kz 650 /750 or a Honda cb750 Suzuki gs,750 get the experience riding
My first bike is Yamaha fz8.. I’m just careful with it
I think MOST PEOPLE will probably just power Wheelie it once they get comfortable riding it for a few months. Not try and clutch it up.
Like my Dad always told us.... Your weight, the bikes weight when you think you have it mastered it is going to get up and show you who the master is
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Its not a kill trap ots all in how u ride an how u take care of yourself on it . Bottom line any ike can an will hurt u but this bIke is awsome bike.
Are you in Arizona? Looks like you are
Yessir! 🌵
@@JonsMotoGarage me too, in the valley
@@az_pit_viper4270 💯🤙
Heh
Seduced by the Asian dragon lady
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Nice little canyon scratcher; friends in SoCal love theirs
If you plan on keeping her, you might want to consider getting a reflash
www.vcyclenut.com/store/p2/2014-2020__MT%2FFZ%2FFJ-09%2FXSR900%2FGT_900_tracer_custom_flash.html
If you have some common sense, the ability to reign yourself in and ride safely, it is do able as a first bigger bike for the majority.... even more so on the gen3.
If you don't have these abilities, then no... it can and will most likely bite you.
It requires some respect.
They aren't that crazy dude. Try a 04/05 ZX10R streetfightered.
Alright so first off, takes a lot for a man to admit he’s wrong so hats off for that..love the mt 09 and will be buying the 21 standard once I can find one..coming from a Harley 48 which is completely different, I’ll have to take my time learning and getting adjusted..secondly, what is the difference between the FZ and MT please?? Total Yamaha noob here..
Internationally, Yamaha called this line of Bikes "MT". Domestically, they were called "FZ" up to 2018 when they changed to "MT" to match the international name. "Master of Torque".
its a fun streetbike but its not that radical
You say that, I bought the bike PURELY and SOLEY because it's a wheelie machine and nothing else, just that reason, WHEELIES
The FZ09/MT09 is "not" a beginner bike in regards that the suspension is shit for the amount of power this bike makes. It is not balanced
Beginner riders grasp the bars too hard which turn into tankslappers when turning the throttle extremely hard.
It has a short wheelbase, soft suspension (stock) and a ginormous amount of torque and adding a twitchy throttle is a recipe for fun and disaster.
Thrilling bike tho, always brings a bigass smile on my face
Yeahhhhh it's not that crazy, go ride a 1000 super sport. Gsxr 1000, ZX10r s1000rr. They're crazy. I've had a fz09 since 2015 and rode a gsxr 1k for the first time 2 years ago and it blew my mind. Rediculous motorcycle.
If you have less than 5K+ miles riding a bike, I would not recommend MT-09. It's too much of a bike and it's too easy to go fast.
If you wanna learn wheelies... buy an mt07... if you don't care about wheelies and have a lil experience atleast, buy mt09... mistakes on mt07 could very well be more consequential on an 09.. Jon's just justifying keeping the bike for a longer amount of time at this point as he becomes more comfortable but he's also a really good experienced rider.. mt09 top speed isn't even that much faster then a flashed 07.. just a lil faster acceleration.. I was going to buy an 09 last year but I ended up getting an 07 instead for alot of different reason and I'm really happy with it tbh.. I could see myself content for like 3-5 years... but the right mt09 comes along for the right price ima buy it.
DMF
You’re wrong about a lot of shjt man lol
I have the 2021 which is much more refined and not as twitchy on the throttle. I absolutely love it. I’m not a wheelie person. I don’t mind if the front tire comes up but I’m not out here chasing wheelies. I’m a day in the mountains carving up some twisties guy. I will say I have a lot of respect for the animal it is so I ride it more reasonably than my Harley which I beat the absolute piss out of because unless you’re outriding the brake potential, it’s hard to get into trouble with it. But it’s to be expected. The Harley is 99 Mustang GT fast, the MT-09 is Corvette Z06 fast
I would personally think that would be a perfect beginner bike. It helps to make you be a better rider by having to respect it.
Problem is, you can respect the bike and still get yourself killed by being in way over your head. I own one, and personally, I would never recommend it to a beginner.
@@eltoast
Different people learn in different ways. I've known beginners that started on GSXR1100s and never wrecked, and seen more than 1 250 not make it across the street from the dealer and get totalled.