Here's mine: is normal to kind of dislike an idol because is popular. Is wrong to hate on them and you have understand is not their fault, but want it or not, is a normal feeling you can't control at first.
4:10 This is so true. People are already pre ordering album from the new jyp girl group without even knowing the group name or members but then will say the big3 privilege doesn't exist
Y E S!!! It frustrates me when fellow gay people ask for gay representation in KPOP when they don't even appreciate the gay idols who have come out smh 🤦🤦
@@mamamoobestgroup4376 honestly as member of lgbtq really stress me out when I say comments like "….she likes girls" or "….he likes boys" just because they hugged or did something. Some of them might be some of them not. And really they are idols that have come out but no they want more and more because they are desperate for representation and I get it cause it’s really nice to relate with ur fave but not this way tho.
@@diaaesc just someone being open about their sexuality imo is good representation. Just someone who's being themselves, living their lives is good representation for the community
I find it kind of funny when stylists give bgs crop tops and everyone is like No wHy arE tHeY oVerSexuAliZiNg tHeM??? while nobody cares when stylists give ggs crop tops or outfits that are so short that you can see their whole safety shorts
1. AGREED 100% 2. YES ESPECIALLY THE BIG 3 3. technically yes, I think every idol has had surgery to look young or never age? 4. hmmm not a bg stan so idk 5. MHM 6. IKR 7. OFC EVERYONE KNOWS THIS
Big3 privellage does exist, not saying that they have it easy bc they definitely have to work hard and even harder to get that position out if millions, but if we’re talking about success, that’s achieved more when you’re in the big 3 like most of them get popularity straight from their debut, truth hurts, and no that’s not always the case but most of the time it is
3:32, it hurts, but I know it's true. Tho, I believe that being surprised Ur fave was a bully or, especially depressed, is really stupid. Like, I know idols are actual ppl who have and make mistakes and have feelings, so why would it be as surprising? Ngl, I would be a little shocked, but I know they're real ppl who do stupid crap and as long as they make up for it, I'm chill.
1:44 is so true, I’m not going to name anyone but most of the idols that are put in to groups because they’re pretty have one of the least noticeable voice in their group or are always in the back never noticeable I’m not saying all but most
Wow you’re really coming at ppl HARD. I’m pretty surprised how I don’t see much disagreement or hate comments like other videos. And no I don’t wish any of that upon you. I really like how hard you’re going I agree with almost everything you said✨
The first one is just 💖💖 And here's the thing, why do we have to praise people who literally just support our rights?? Like, that's the lowest of all standards. You supporting our rights then you don't deserve the praise because that's the lowest standards For the Boy Group Choreographies, that also ties to the dancers as well. While I don't inherently think that male dancers are better than female dancers, in Open Style or Hip Hop, it's rather clear that male KPOP dancers overshadow their female counterparts I might add something for the first one but I've seen alot of KPOP stans assume who's gay and the thing that I have noticed is that they pick the stereotypical bottom representation found in Yaoi. It's like feminity=gay for this fans and it's just AHHHH
New additions!!! Most KPOP groups or idols has atleast a sort of hatred or disgust or a sort of superiority towards gay people/black people Alot of KPOP dancers are "average" by international standards and that's because KPOP companies don't know how to handle or train these idols A number of idols are not talented within the three main talents of KPOP
But tzuyu can actually sing very well I think it just worked out in jyp’s favor that she can actually sing well because twice’s songs would be empty without her harmonies and adlibs lol
Here's my take: People needs to stop hating on twice for their vocals when most of the groups in this generation that ya'll stan have weaker vocals than them!
Boygroup choreography DOES go harder and I'm saying this as a gg stan. And there is a VALID reason why. Biologically, males tend to have more stamina and even if females do develop stamina, can we expect all the members of a 9-15 member group to have good stamina-? Maybe the main dancers can pull it off, which they do most of the time (Ryujin for example). Also, female idols are females. That's kind of self explanatory. People forget that. We have a thing called a uterus which hates us a lot :) So it's understandable why they don't have hard core choreo and the opinion shouldn't be hated on for cause it's the truth tbh.
I didn't expect to agree with all you were going to say, but damn you decided to speak facts. And i feel kinda bad to agree to some of these cause they're a bit sad tbh :(
I agree that idols from bigger companies receive a lot of love and attention already at their debut and have better chances to be popular just because of their company. However, I hate when people call them untalented just because they had it easier from the beginning on. You have to take into account the trainee years before their debut. Since bigger companies have more attention, they also will have much more people coming to their auditions. The idols that debut in the end had a harder competition against more and very qualified people than the idols from small companies. In the end, only the best of the best are allowed to debut, so the possibility that idols from bigger companies are more talented/skilled than the ones from smaller companies is very high.
agree with everything you said!! definitely the one about supporting the lgbtq+ community, kpop fans need to realise that most of their faves are not supportive and need to just give up the whole 'my faves are so educated' bllshit however, i don't think the gg/bg choreo is a fact. i think gg dances go harder than bg dances. cause most main dancers off ggs can pull off bg choreos in covers from mediocre to excellent, but whenever a main dancer of a bg tries to do a gg song (definitely from more difficult choreos like everglow, itzy,...) they look absolutely ridiculous and like they've never danced in their entire life. I think i know like 2 main male dancers that can do a gg song as well as the girls themselves
my opinion: you dont have to find every idol pretty or handsome, 2nd: the 2nd generation DID pave the way, bts just brought more attention to kpop and achieved all those awards and broke records. same with twice
You would think filler members/ visual fillers would have brand deals because they’re the visual, but because they’re a filler member they’re not as popular and brand deals don’t want to lose money! that’s why companies stick with the most popular members always being in the front or always having the most lines, because they bring in the most money! It’s truly disgusting!
Oh this. I think the idea of solo stanning has always been seen as negative. In my case, I'm only attached to a few idols. I can't see myself stanning this group but I do feel attached to this one person. Am I the only who's like that??
I agree ab the lgbt one but they arent stupid, stop treating idols as some babies or dolls that dont know anything, they are people with an internet connection and they damn well know what a rainbow means in most contexts.
In actually in two minds about the LGBTQ one. SK is a horrible country for LGBTQ, if you're exposed for supporting the community then your ENTIRE career is ruined, not to mention that being a member of the community BY LAW is illegal. I come from a very close minded country too {atleast here its not banned by law, the problem is the mindset of the people} and they immediately look down upon you. Maybe the idols just want to show their support, but only can do it in a small way, like carrying pride flags or making mysterious speeches.
the reason why bg’s dances appear/are harder than gg’s, regardless of how many members there are in these groups, is that they use their legs wayyyyy more
this video is pretty short so tell me if y’all wanna part 2 and I’ll make it ;)
yes please!!!
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Here's mine: is normal to kind of dislike an idol because is popular. Is wrong to hate on them and you have understand is not their fault, but want it or not, is a normal feeling you can't control at first.
100% agreed
also, privilege is not a bad thing, and if your fave is privileged that doesn’t mean they’re not talented
4:10 This is so true. People are already pre ordering album from the new jyp girl group without even knowing the group name or members but then will say the big3 privilege doesn't exist
oh my really?? Wow smh 🤦♀️
They're having an album at debut??? I--
@@vanhminglianitochhawng3209 i checked again it's actually just a single the pre order comes with cd and photo card
for the bg dances vs gg dances, female idols also get periods and shit so dealing with cramps with hardass choreo would probably feel super horrible
Exactly
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But also the industry is misogynistic and doesn’t think women can handle it, like there’s so many female idols that eat these boys up 😩
I think we're also forgetting that not all female idols have period cramps or have periods in general
@@ilikeyourcutg5597 Either way if they don't get cramps it's still super uncomfortable to dance while having periods.
The fact that in kpop visuals matter way more than talent and hardwork is really sad
honestly
The second one SCREAMS YG.
Lmao 🤣🤣
No I don't think anyone ever becomes popular from good music ALONE, I will never believe in that.
@jenniecrushed don't get me wrong formis9 ain't for me.
KARINA THUMBNAIL LET'S GOOO
your thumbnails are always so pretty
@jisoosmagic LMFAOOO nah, i’m just another jaemin stan
@@ohnoanu yes we twins ☺️
I’m ready to see everyone get mad 🤩 Come through with the facts mel 😩
also saying an idol is so “relatable” and “quirky” and a “gen z king/queen” cough cough keeho and alexa is annoying
Also gay stans needs to stop assuming idols sexuality cause you want representation so bad.
AGREED !!!
Y E S!!! It frustrates me when fellow gay people ask for gay representation in KPOP when they don't even appreciate the gay idols who have come out smh 🤦🤦
@@mamamoobestgroup4376 honestly as member of lgbtq really stress me out when I say comments like "….she likes girls" or "….he likes boys" just because they hugged or did something. Some of them might be some of them not.
And really they are idols that have come out but no they want more and more because they are desperate for representation and I get it cause it’s really nice to relate with ur fave but not this way tho.
@@diaaesc just someone being open about their sexuality imo is good representation. Just someone who's being themselves, living their lives is good representation for the community
the reason bg choreographies go so hard compared to ggs is bc gg choreographies are very often sexualized as fan service :/
exactly
I find it kind of funny when stylists give bgs crop tops and everyone is like No wHy arE tHeY oVerSexuAliZiNg tHeM??? while nobody cares when stylists give ggs crop tops or outfits that are so short that you can see their whole safety shorts
Double standards I guess
@@rere-me yes!! it just really bothers me, like yes ofc men shouldnt be sexualized either but PLEASE keep the same energy for female idols
The tea is about to spill y'all
1. AGREED 100%
2. YES ESPECIALLY THE BIG 3
3. technically yes, I think every idol has had surgery to look young or never age?
4. hmmm not a bg stan so idk
5. MHM
6. IKR
7. OFC EVERYONE KNOWS THIS
i got my popcorn ready
this is gonna be interesting👀
👀🍵
omo you're here :o
pls i cant wait any longeeer😣
mhm excited for the tea
Big3 privellage does exist, not saying that they have it easy bc they definitely have to work hard and even harder to get that position out if millions, but if we’re talking about success, that’s achieved more when you’re in the big 3 like most of them get popularity straight from their debut, truth hurts, and no that’s not always the case but most of the time it is
exactly, it’s called the big3 for fking reason
I CANT WAIT TO SEE.
Bestie about to come with the facts, get mad y’all
“three oceans away” 😭😭
you literally spat facts 💀
3:32, it hurts, but I know it's true. Tho, I believe that being surprised Ur fave was a bully or, especially depressed, is really stupid. Like, I know idols are actual ppl who have and make mistakes and have feelings, so why would it be as surprising? Ngl, I would be a little shocked, but I know they're real ppl who do stupid crap and as long as they make up for it, I'm chill.
1:44 is so true, I’m not going to name anyone but most of the idols that are put in to groups because they’re pretty have one of the least noticeable voice in their group or are always in the back never noticeable I’m not saying all but most
Wow you’re really coming at ppl HARD. I’m pretty surprised how I don’t see much disagreement or hate comments like other videos.
And no I don’t wish any of that upon you. I really like how hard you’re going I agree with almost everything you said✨
WE STAN AN INTELLECTUAL
The first one is just 💖💖
And here's the thing, why do we have to praise people who literally just support our rights?? Like, that's the lowest of all standards. You supporting our rights then you don't deserve the praise because that's the lowest standards
For the Boy Group Choreographies, that also ties to the dancers as well. While I don't inherently think that male dancers are better than female dancers, in Open Style or Hip Hop, it's rather clear that male KPOP dancers overshadow their female counterparts
I might add something for the first one but I've seen alot of KPOP stans assume who's gay and the thing that I have noticed is that they pick the stereotypical bottom representation found in Yaoi. It's like feminity=gay for this fans and it's just AHHHH
New additions!!!
Most KPOP groups or idols has atleast a sort of hatred or disgust or a sort of superiority towards gay people/black people
Alot of KPOP dancers are "average" by international standards and that's because KPOP companies don't know how to handle or train these idols
A number of idols are not talented within the three main talents of KPOP
most of these are facts tbh🧍♀️
But tzuyu can actually sing very well I think it just worked out in jyp’s favor that she can actually sing well because twice’s songs would be empty without her harmonies and adlibs lol
It's night time here and I don't want to risk getting caught so y'all better save me a seat tomorrow!!!
Here's my take: People needs to stop hating on twice for their vocals when most of the groups in this generation that ya'll stan have weaker vocals than them!
100% facts! Especially the first one.
3:09 i thought i was the only one who thought this, im so glad someone else finally spoke up.
I mean Jaemin is a filler member to me 👀👀
omg
Yes unfortunately! but the filler members in nct would be mainly be Johnny, and Winwin.
Jaemin could past as one tho so you’re not wrong!
Nothing bad facts
ready to get mad!!💖💦
Boygroup choreography DOES go harder and I'm saying this as a gg stan. And there is a VALID reason why. Biologically, males tend to have more stamina and even if females do develop stamina, can we expect all the members of a 9-15 member group to have good stamina-? Maybe the main dancers can pull it off, which they do most of the time (Ryujin for example). Also, female idols are females. That's kind of self explanatory. People forget that. We have a thing called a uterus which hates us a lot :) So it's understandable why they don't have hard core choreo and the opinion shouldn't be hated on for cause it's the truth tbh.
My Girl is stating facts you can't deny about it. We stan a Queen.
SPEAKING FACTS! I'm ready to see the comments rolling in like 🙄
I didn't expect to agree with all you were going to say, but damn you decided to speak facts.
And i feel kinda bad to agree to some of these cause they're a bit sad tbh :(
Ikr 😔
The facts you spilled, y’all are gonna get real mad but everything said was facts 😩
All of this are so true.
RIGHT??!!!! (Talking about company only cares about money) it is all about the money
No but fr!! Some people go as far as saying their fav are lgbtq+ just because they held the flag like🤨
actually an idol breathing means they're gay for kpop stans so i wouldn't be surprised💀
Kinda off topic but did it the robot voice actually read Tzuyu right or did you have to put "chewy"..
Not the robot knowing how to pronounce it better than most of us 😭😭
@jenniecrushed Hey bestie, long time no seen lmao
I put “chewy” teehee
I agree that idols from bigger companies receive a lot of love and attention already at their debut and have better chances to be popular just because of their company. However, I hate when people call them untalented just because they had it easier from the beginning on.
You have to take into account the trainee years before their debut. Since bigger companies have more attention, they also will have much more people coming to their auditions. The idols that debut in the end had a harder competition against more and very qualified people than the idols from small companies. In the end, only the best of the best are allowed to debut, so the possibility that idols from bigger companies are more talented/skilled than the ones from smaller companies is very high.
0:38 I AGREE, I STRONGLY AGREE
i do feel like nowadays tzuyu is getting better treatment
agree with everything you said!! definitely the one about supporting the lgbtq+ community, kpop fans need to realise that most of their faves are not supportive and need to just give up the whole 'my faves are so educated' bllshit
however, i don't think the gg/bg choreo is a fact. i think gg dances go harder than bg dances. cause most main dancers off ggs can pull off bg choreos in covers from mediocre to excellent, but whenever a main dancer of a bg tries to do a gg song (definitely from more difficult choreos like everglow, itzy,...) they look absolutely ridiculous and like they've never danced in their entire life. I think i know like 2 main male dancers that can do a gg song as well as the girls themselves
Agree to all of these
my opinion: you dont have to find every idol pretty or handsome, 2nd: the 2nd generation DID pave the way, bts just brought more attention to kpop and achieved all those awards and broke records. same with twice
and blackpink
3:13 words I wanna say to kpop Stans in twitter..
Idols speaking in broken aave is not funny and the stans should stop labelling them as gen z Kings/queens
exactly!
What's that?
@@-mitsuyasimp-2281 aave= african american vernacular english
@@hobisunshine9903 Ok thank you!
Mel you didn’t make me mad you made me laugh
Can't wait for the pressed stans to cry in the comments
I don’t get why some visuals don’t have any brand deals though? Because of their position, isn’t it their job to look pretty and advertise brands?
You would think filler members/ visual fillers would have brand deals because they’re the visual, but because they’re a filler member they’re not as popular and brand deals don’t want to lose money! that’s why companies stick with the most popular members always being in the front or always having the most lines, because they bring in the most money! It’s truly disgusting!
1:11 LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
Oh this. I think the idea of solo stanning has always been seen as negative. In my case, I'm only attached to a few idols. I can't see myself stanning this group but I do feel attached to this one person. Am I the only who's like that??
these are facts lmao xD
what font did you use ??
I use “helvetica bold oblique”
Why is that no one saved me a seat?? Y'all are so----AHHH
Edit: Should I comment it all in one comment or should I just comment alot??
I agree ab the lgbt one but they arent stupid, stop treating idols as some babies or dolls that dont know anything, they are people with an internet connection and they damn well know what a rainbow means in most contexts.
Shexyyyyyy hiiiiiiii
three oceans away 😭😭😭
In actually in two minds about the LGBTQ one. SK is a horrible country for LGBTQ, if you're exposed for supporting the community then your ENTIRE career is ruined, not to mention that being a member of the community BY LAW is illegal. I come from a very close minded country too {atleast here its not banned by law, the problem is the mindset of the people} and they immediately look down upon you. Maybe the idols just want to show their support, but only can do it in a small way, like carrying pride flags or making mysterious speeches.
the reason why bg’s dances appear/are harder than gg’s, regardless of how many members there are in these groups, is that they use their legs wayyyyy more