Am trying to main joker, and can't figure out enough stuff to be suceeding, but this video helped a lot! 10/10 would recommend again. Also, amazing music choice! Those two are favorites of mine. Heck, the whole series is great.
Damn. I wish there was a colllection of videos like this for each character so it was easier to pick up new ones. I suck at doing research for the best resources
Character discords are a good place to start:) But i agree that it's not always obvious to know where to find material to pick up a character. I'll try my best to work on more of those!
@@LuisGonzalez0505 - I don't mind going into training mode to figure out some basics or practice moves, but I'm horrible at discovering combo trees and stuff. I have a hard time understanding potential DI so I suck at finding out against that computer what's true, what's a mixup, and what's useless.
@@Frilleon then just play friendlies & it'll come to you eventually. Take a mental note of what works & what doesn't while you poke around with safe moves. keep an eye on percents & a good neutral. That's usually all it takes to beat most people anyways lol
This shit is so well done man. Its super visually pleasing, the music is super great, the persona themed message that shows the combos are awesome, and its really informative on top of that. Well done man this is the best combo video ive seen so far EASILY.
This is very informative and unlike other combos those are ones you do it actual games. Also down throw to aresene dair may be true, as well as down throw nair
This is why Joker is my main. He has... EVERYTHING!! Good mobility? ✅ Good moveset? ✅ Good recovery? ✅ Good combos? ✅ Good damage output? ✅ Good kill power? ✅ Good weight? ✅ Good projectiles for zoning? ✅ Good counter/relflector? ✅ He as it ALL!
Overall this is a great video and very well done, someone posted this in the Joker Discord and I decided to take a look. DAir is frame 13, whereas NAir is frame 12, so it's technically slower even if by a little bit. Although, if you're using NAir from a Full Hop I guess it technically would be slightly faster regardless, especially if you land with the second hit. Doesn't matter even remotely though, this is still a great video!
Hi there, I figured someone would eventually post this since i realized after rendering that my comment wasn't consistent with the frame data :x What i was trying to say remains the same, however i worded it wrong. The part of the nair hitbox that we're interested in (directly in front or slightly below joker - betweem 3 and 5 o'clock if facing to the right) comes out slower than the first back hit of dair. Effectively, this means you'll probably have to press nair higher up in the air than you'd have to press dair. Because although nair starts on frame 13, the hitbox you want is probably f16 or something. Not sure if that makes any sense. Anyhow, what i wrote is plain wrong so you're completely right. Thanks for your comment :]
@@LxZLink No, I understand, your logic is sound. I actually went onto UFD for the sake of knowledge, since I definitely want to keep this stuff in mind. Looks like the hitbox you're referring to is about frame 13 to frame 14. For reference, the back hitbox is about 15-17, and the second hitbox is frame 20 and above. But yeah, you're right with what you meant. This is definitely a great guide , thanks for the hard work :D Edit: Edited a typo, screw grammar
Tbh one of my favourite things about playing joker is his combo game Everything combos and everything strings and it just feels so damn smooth to hit that 50% dragdown combo you've been labbing
This is amazing I never knew joker had these combos, also the video is put together really well it’s not dragged out and the music, I love persona 5 music
I actually just now learned that pushing 2 jump buttons at once can make you do a short hop consistently... so im learning the drawdowns and this vid really helped.. Anyone who wants to short hop consistently set your left/right (to your preference) bumper and trigger buttons to jump.. push them at the same time and tada..
This is so cool and helpful! I'm not very good at smash, but I still look at videos like these to get an idea or things I can practice. Joker is my favorite character and so I just want to at least be decent with my main. I really appreciate this. It was very simple and easy to follow. (Of course pausing to read because these men be zoomin)
Oh fuck yeah. You got my sub. I love how you this video breaks things down the way it does and this should be the standard of what a guide for a character is like. Keep this up.
If you're branching out to other characters I suggest an easy one to do and get out of the way is Piranha plant. At 0%: Nair to Ftilt UThrow to Ptooie UThrow to U Air To Ptooie At mid percent DThrow to fair At Kill percent: Sweet spot Dair to UTilt These are the ones I know.
Thanks you so much! I needed this. I’m just getting back into the game and as a Joker Main my gameplay was lacking (I’d just go for the flashy stuff like drag downs and fair-1 followups, but my fundamental combo game was lacking). Subscribed
Really cool looking video! Though I think it may be better to include DI dependent combos like having to run towards the opponent after a downthrow and then fair/bair or the DI in punish into up air and stuff like that. Another great setup is down throw to a platform(midpercent) into nair. Most opponent try to tech on the platform (or miss it).After the nair you can dash attack, ftilt at lower percents or what I like to use falling from the platform and drag down up air(without jumping) and then extend the combo
Amazing video! The ibly whing I would add is that as well as extending the combow with upB on the groud (this one isn't a true combo either, but an extra tool to consider) you can use it in the air after the last up air to add a little extra damage
I LOVE THOSE TWO SONGS! AND NOT JUST THAT, I LOVE JOKER'S COMBOS ME FIRST TIME I PLAY JOKER-THIS DUDE IS AWESOME (LITERALLY) ONE WEEK LATER ME-JOKER IS MY MAIN NOW THANKS!
Joker has the most follow ups in the game. It's crazy how many mix ups and combos he is capable of off of the same move. Even with the nerf I still think he is far and away the best character when fully optimized.
Great video. These combos weren't exactly insane and I thought a lot of people knew about them already. Still great to run through as training tho. Also, Falco next pls
He's so fun cause you can literally just combo into anything and it'll probably work. Mario's is crazier though, not because its more impressive or practical, but involves 2 moves.
This is sick, could you perhaps make a Little Mac combo guide next? I'm a mac main myself btw. The character struggles because he doesn't have nearly as good of a combo game as Joker, but i still wanna see if he has any more potential we can wring out of him.
I was kinda confused since you teached me red text is untrue, but you used red text for the Arsene combos (I'm guessing these are true). Just thought I would point that out. Also a question, does rainstorm (when you preform it while falling down in the air and not from the ground) true combo? Anyway thanks might pick up Joker!
yoo this is clean bro !
Thanks:)
Pinning your comment because your channel deserves more subs! I know the struggle!
LxZ Link I appreciate u! and i believe if it’s meant to happen it will happen, ima just work!
Nice to see cozy here! How viable do you think this combos are in a real match? Considering different DI aswell
Fabrinoah its clean! and the strings that weren’t true are stated as so, I learned a bit myself while watching this! :D
My son Cozy is here? Damn I missed my invitation ;-;
You are me.
Starting as a link main then trying zero suit but ending up loving joker
I are thou, thou art I?!?
Thy bond shall be the wings of rebellion that breaketh thy chains of captivity
With the birth of the combos persona, I have obtained the wings of blessing that shall lead to freedom and new power...
I skipped the zss part, but yeah Same
I went from link main, to mii brawler, to lucina to mac.
God where did I go wrong.
The sheer quality of your videos is insane. I came for Link but these videos are just so fun to watch and compact, please keep up the good work!
Thanks so much! I’ll try my best to keep it coming :)
Your music choices are always fantastic. However the video is very useful. Thank you for the content.
Thanks to you for the kind comment!! Glad you liked the music. I absolutely love it!
Am trying to main joker, and can't figure out enough stuff to be suceeding, but this video helped a lot! 10/10 would recommend again.
Also, amazing music choice! Those two are favorites of mine. Heck, the whole series is great.
P5 music is truly something else. Contender for best music in smash imo!
Thanks for your comment!
@@LxZLink You're welcome!
@@LxZLink but P4 music in Smash, though
@@Neon-yj9xw yep
This video didn’t helped, because I was vibin with the music :0
Just kidding, this video is useful. Great video, dude!
Persona 5 Scramble music
Persona 5 music, but with extra jazz
Ah yes, my favorite Link - Joker.
Zachery Haakelopez only real smash fans play palutenas temple
Zachery Haakelopez glad you agree
Zachery Haakelopez oh nah it was a joke. It’s a stage in ultimate and is
legit the most casual and shitty one in the game
Yuck
Damn. I wish there was a colllection of videos like this for each character so it was easier to pick up new ones. I suck at doing research for the best resources
Character discords are a good place to start:)
But i agree that it's not always obvious to know where to find material to pick up a character. I'll try my best to work on more of those!
LxZ Link thanks for the response. I love how efficient and clear your videos are. Thank you!!
Don't be lazy, part of the fun is figuring out how to play new characters!
@@LuisGonzalez0505 - I don't mind going into training mode to figure out some basics or practice moves, but I'm horrible at discovering combo trees and stuff.
I have a hard time understanding potential DI so I suck at finding out against that computer what's true, what's a mixup, and what's useless.
@@Frilleon then just play friendlies & it'll come to you eventually. Take a mental note of what works & what doesn't while you poke around with safe moves. keep an eye on percents & a good neutral. That's usually all it takes to beat most people anyways lol
"Joke's True combos". I feel like there's a mistake here
Oops! Thanks for letting me know! Fixed:)
@@LxZLink these combos are cool and all but how do I win?
@@b.a5140 step 1: Pick Mementos
Step 2: play Last Surprise
@@Neon-yj9xw thank you
@@dawn6751 Looking true, Joker!
Extremly imformitive, as someone who was playing joker since day 1, this is great
5:27 i always use this to kill with Joker
Shiota nah
How the fuck do you do this the second my fair hits it just boots him off stage
@@zealous7933 you have do it while fast falling, if not itll send him forwards
I really wish more people did videos like this. No talking, and I love how you put in the corner exactly what moved you're doing.
I can't wait for the next Link vid to come out :D
Even arsene combos
Bro you’ve outdone yourself
Hmmmmm
Tastes like perfection...
I'm having trouble concentrating on the combos because of the music ITS TOO GOOD LMAO
Do you know the names of the music?
This shit is so well done man. Its super visually pleasing, the music is super great, the persona themed message that shows the combos are awesome, and its really informative on top of that. Well done man this is the best combo video ive seen so far EASILY.
thank you
This is very informative and unlike other combos those are ones you do it actual games.
Also down throw to aresene dair may be true, as well as down throw nair
This is why Joker is my main. He has... EVERYTHING!!
Good mobility? ✅
Good moveset? ✅
Good recovery? ✅
Good combos? ✅
Good damage output? ✅
Good kill power? ✅
Good weight? ✅
Good projectiles for zoning? ✅
Good counter/relflector? ✅
He as it ALL!
That Fair1 To Double Up Air is DEADLY. Sweet Vid Link
Awesome video!! This would definitely be the first thing I recommend to someone looking to learn Jokers combos
Overall this is a great video and very well done, someone posted this in the Joker Discord and I decided to take a look. DAir is frame 13, whereas NAir is frame 12, so it's technically slower even if by a little bit. Although, if you're using NAir from a Full Hop I guess it technically would be slightly faster regardless, especially if you land with the second hit. Doesn't matter even remotely though, this is still a great video!
Hi there, I figured someone would eventually post this since i realized after rendering that my comment wasn't consistent with the frame data :x
What i was trying to say remains the same, however i worded it wrong.
The part of the nair hitbox that we're interested in (directly in front or slightly below joker - betweem 3 and 5 o'clock if facing to the right) comes out slower than the first back hit of dair. Effectively, this means you'll probably have to press nair higher up in the air than you'd have to press dair. Because although nair starts on frame 13, the hitbox you want is probably f16 or something. Not sure if that makes any sense.
Anyhow, what i wrote is plain wrong so you're completely right.
Thanks for your comment :]
@@LxZLink No, I understand, your logic is sound. I actually went onto UFD for the sake of knowledge, since I definitely want to keep this stuff in mind. Looks like the hitbox you're referring to is about frame 13 to frame 14. For reference, the back hitbox is about 15-17, and the second hitbox is frame 20 and above.
But yeah, you're right with what you meant. This is definitely a great guide , thanks for the hard work :D
Edit: Edited a typo, screw grammar
I wish you made more of these videos, this guide was sole reason I kept playing joker and how learned of his combos.
Tbh one of my favourite things about playing joker is his combo game
Everything combos and everything strings and it just feels so damn smooth to hit that 50% dragdown combo you've been labbing
This is amazing I never knew joker had these combos, also the video is put together really well it’s not dragged out and the music, I love persona 5 music
As a Joker main I found this as a great reminder for combos to experiment with and overall to just get creative!
I actually just now learned that pushing 2 jump buttons at once can make you do a short hop consistently... so im learning the drawdowns and this vid really helped..
Anyone who wants to short hop consistently set your left/right (to your preference) bumper and trigger buttons to jump.. push them at the same time and tada..
The moves just blew me away! Thanks for the tips and tricks!
This is so cool and helpful! I'm not very good at smash, but I still look at videos like these to get an idea or things I can practice. Joker is my favorite character and so I just want to at least be decent with my main. I really appreciate this. It was very simple and easy to follow. (Of course pausing to read because these men be zoomin)
Joker is truly the Wild Card when it comes to his combo game
I forgot this existed and I’m so glad I remember! I’m gonna use these on my joker amiibo. Thanks!
It's so fun to learn combos that I didn't know was there. Thanks for helping a fellow joker main!
The best part about joker is how creative you can be, and it always looks stylish
Thanks so much ~ I can take my Joker gameplay to next level now.
one of the most helpful videos on joker in yt. thanks
Your video is insane man, keep it up, the editing was topnotch! Thanks king.
Very informational and we'll edited. And you just found a new subscriber
7 minutes of true combos... says something about the character doesn’t it
And I barely showed any arsene ones :P
LxZ Link lmaoo true. Busted ass character
@@helmutkrueger903 At least it isn't Brawl Meta Knight or Smash 4 Bayo, lol
That Mario must be a crazy good player, he successfully reads Jokers every move.
Extremely well edited!
Oh fuck yeah. You got my sub. I love how you this video breaks things down the way it does and this should be the standard of what a guide for a character is like. Keep this up.
im a joker main and these are some combos that I use a lot but I learned them from u and my main is amazing I got into elite smash becuz of this!
That’s awesome!!! :)
If you're branching out to other characters I suggest an easy one to do and get out of the way is Piranha plant.
At 0%:
Nair to Ftilt
UThrow to Ptooie
UThrow to U Air To Ptooie
At mid percent
DThrow to fair
At Kill percent:
Sweet spot Dair to UTilt
These are the ones I know.
At last, a combo guide that is actually practical.
Thanks you so much! I needed this. I’m just getting back into the game and as a Joker Main my gameplay was lacking (I’d just go for the flashy stuff like drag downs and fair-1 followups, but my fundamental combo game was lacking). Subscribed
I dont even play joker, and this is the best character guide I've seen for the whole game
As a joker main trying to get into competitive smash, this will hopefully help a lot
Yes it is confirmed
LxZ ain’t dead
Best tutorial/guide I've seen
link is looking a little weightless without his shield... and where did that gun come from?
Justin b. From the sequel to The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the wild, which is now in development
Arsene’s protection is now ready to roll!
LxZ Link imagine if link had that move...
Really cool looking video! Though I think it may be better to include DI dependent combos like having to run towards the opponent after a downthrow and then fair/bair or the DI in punish into up air and stuff like that. Another great setup is down throw to a platform(midpercent) into nair. Most opponent try to tech on the platform (or miss it).After the nair you can dash attack, ftilt at lower percents or what I like to use falling from the platform and drag down up air(without jumping) and then extend the combo
Quality is godlike.
Amazing video! The ibly whing I would add is that as well as extending the combow with upB on the groud (this one isn't a true combo either, but an extra tool to consider) you can use it in the air after the last up air to add a little extra damage
Looking cool, Joker!
Favorite joker combo video!
I LOVE THOSE TWO SONGS!
AND NOT JUST THAT, I LOVE JOKER'S COMBOS
ME FIRST TIME I PLAY JOKER-THIS DUDE IS AWESOME (LITERALLY)
ONE WEEK LATER ME-JOKER IS MY MAIN NOW
THANKS!
ok for real tho these look sick and i think i could actually do them. thanks for the vid dude!
You know a game has good music when you keep watching a video simply because of it
I can’t pull of clean combos in a game Consistently. Not unless I have my nerves in check. These are clean
Joker has the most follow ups in the game. It's crazy how many mix ups and combos he is capable of off of the same move. Even with the nerf I still think he is far and away the best character when fully optimized.
And here I was thinking this was a Link only channel
Incredibly well done video!
I learned most and practiced most at night but idk some from this vid and this will help
So happy I subbed, this video quality is amazing!
Joker is my main. Thanks for making this, super useful.
Great video. These combos weren't exactly insane and I thought a lot of people knew about them already. Still great to run through as training tho.
Also, Falco next pls
Damn, was considering dropping him as my main. No longer!
Anyways you can pick bayonetta, joker's mains are pretty similars to the bayonetta playstyle
Looking Cool Joker!
Hey man really good vid incredible connection on the hits
very very nice video! i love it, keep up the good work.
Holy crap bro thanks you. You answered all my questions!
Doing a tech reset with gun is so disrespectful. I love it so much!
Perfect, thanks, joker is beautiful
Not only did he use a great song, but he also used the best version of mementos
A very well made video, dare i say
Your vids are gold! Keep em coming
Thanks for the vid. I'm gonna have to try these out
Joker's combo game is so good omg
This is such a nice video homie
Wait a minute, this isn’t link!
It’s not!!
This character is called sheik that sometimes turns into ganondorf for 30 seconds :D
Welcome back man
This deserves more views
Thanks bro!!
He's so fun cause you can literally just combo into anything and it'll probably work. Mario's is crazier though, not because its more impressive or practical, but involves 2 moves.
Amazing guide! Thank you so much!!
Bayonetta be like: my son has learned to much from me xD
Playing Persona 5 Joker with Persona 5 Scramble music on the Persona 4 Color Scheme of mementos
Lets gooo le retour de LxZ
You are awesome dude! 🔥
joker is actually insane
Time to polish up my skills with Joker and decimate my friends with dragdown combos!
I love that fucking reference at the start
this was super helpful. thanks!
This is sick, could you perhaps make a Little Mac combo guide next? I'm a mac main myself btw. The character struggles because he doesn't have nearly as good of a combo game as Joker, but i still wanna see if he has any more potential we can wring out of him.
let him steal your heart.
So good !
Sometimes I wish grabs counted as part of the combo in training mode
Looking cool joker
build our machine
I was kinda confused since you teached me red text is untrue, but you used red text for the Arsene combos (I'm guessing these are true). Just thought I would point that out. Also a question, does rainstorm (when you preform it while falling down in the air and not from the ground) true combo? Anyway thanks might pick up Joker!
You can combo rainstorm into fair 1 to start up the drag down into up smash combo. Mkleo does it in tournament pretty often.