DF Retro EX: Doom 64 - Remaking an N64 Classic For PS4, Xbox One, Switch + PC!
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- In a DF Retro exclusive, John Linneman talks with Nightdive Studios about the process of bringing the classic, totally original Nintendo 64 rendition of Doom over to the current-gen platforms. In this video, you'll see what made the original release so fascinating, while Nightdive staff tell all on how the game was reverse-engineered and delivered on current-gen platforms. Oh - and is this the first 1440p Xbox One S game?
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John when he was 5 years old playing Doom 64:
"Mom the frame rate is a solid 30FPS and the frame pacing is good"
Next thing you know it he's talking about gouraud shading and 3-point texture filtering.
And graduates high school at the ripe age of 14.
You need to update the quote to include the term "bespoke", of course.
Pretty sure John was much older than 5 by the time Doom 64 game out...
LOL he definitely wasnt that young in 97
He was like 20 when Doom 64 came out.... definitely not 5.
This remaster is Fantastic. They need to remaster more 64 titles.
They already did. Turok 1,2 and Forsaken. Now they are working on Shadow Man from N64/PC/Dreamcast.
@@V3ntilator The thing that pisses me off is nintendo has yet to release their main exclusives from N64 era. The a**hole's will probably put it behind a pay wall as well.
Definitely. I’d love more 64 on switch
@@sandman8993 I've been begging for more N64. It was my favorite childhood console. I will lose my mind if Goldeneye 64 comes to switch along with Mario64, Starfox64, Zelda ot and Zelda MM.
this remaster is awesome, the turok remaster i think loses some of his flavor in the remaster. Since some of the textures in the original look blured better than redrawn in HD... Thats the case for many games of the N64 and PS1 generation... its as bad as smoothing pixels in pixel games ;)
Remake is also BRIGHTER, which is a blessing. The game was way too dark.
That's good to know. I just downloaded it the other day when it was on sale on the eshop and then watched this video and thought "Oh no, does the port look that dark?!"
Can't that be solved by adjusting the monitor brightness?
@@donhostiarra5641 I don’t want to be adjusting the tv brightness in game-mode, every time I play the game.
Doom 64 is now one of my all time favourite games.
The Kex Engine is like a gift from God, it's so brilliant when you think about it because it can be used to remaster virtually any game out there that's been reverse-engineered or has available source code. I imagine if an open source alternative to it ever came about or Nightdive is ever able to expand their reach that far we'd be seeing a Helluvalotta DOS and early Windows games that were known to bugger-out on new versions of Windows become playable like brand new. They deserve the highest regards for the work they do which is why I bought Doom 64 twice for both my Switch and PC.
Mario 64 on Kex pls
@@Chaseroni They wouldn't even need Kex engine for that one, since the source code's been fully reverse-engineered and restored.
Chemical_E exactly why it must be done mwahahaha
I've been enjoying Doom 64 on XB1 bundled with Doom Eternal. Gotta say, despite the N64's archaic tech, Doom 64 is an incredible version of a classic.
@@Chaseroni I don't see any point in that as there's strong rumors Nintendo is releasing remastered versions of all the classic 3D Mario's this year. Possibly in a collection containing 64, Sunshine and Galaxy 1 and 2. *fingers crossed*
Never had an N64, so I just recently played this game for the first time and I love it!
Weird, I remember renting Doom 64 a lot, but it was SO freaking dark, even in a dark room it could be hard to see things
@@casedistortedInteresting
@@JmKrokYi had to adjust tv settings like crazy. Loved it but literally had room and tv combinations in my house at the time that some levels were unplayable because of darkness. Still one of my favorite n64 games. I think it is better than any version on consoles or even original pc releases of doom 1 and 2. I consider a real doom 2.5.
I'm glad this game is starting to get so much love!
Same. I’ve always enjoyed it on my 64
@@sandman8993 I didn´t... the opening scared the hell out of me at age 11.
Playing it now, it´s a very cool game, definitely under-rated at the time
Yeah i just started playing this after finishing eternal and its so good! It really creeps me out for some reason. I dont know what it is but it makes me feel a bit uneasy i love it
Agreed. I've owned it since it came out in '97. GameFan magazine's coverage had me hyped.
I still have that issue. The best gaming magazine, back in the day. It hyped me up for it too. Fantastic game.
This is an amazing remaster, I can't believe it's only 5 bucks.
It came as free DLC with Eternal pre-orders. It was a nice touch for those of us waiting for the post
@CAVEMAN CRAZED piracy is a lot less common than it used to be, most gamers these days buy their games from online stores and platforms, even physical copies of games are declining as a result of people moving to this new trend of all digital libraries.
hola buenas, que sorpresa verte por aqui
@@laith_iris ;)
@@tpx7414 que se note que acabo de empzarme el doom 64 que me vino gratis con el doom eternal, el cual tambien acabo de empezar
Dang that custom texture filtering looks great, usually there's lots of shimmering without mipmaps!
Ikr.. I didn't even realise how good the trick was on N64 itself till I saw it compared with traditional filtering on Doom 64 EX.
I must say I'm a little disappointed that they couldn't do at least on par with the original filtering. The N64 filtering was infamously gooey, but the originals presented here looked surprisingly sharp and good.
@@snetmotnosrorb3946 Not sure if it's not on par, might be higher rendering resolution that makes it look sharper.
10:26 I definitely think the N64 sample showed there looks the sharpest (and frankly I didn't know the N64 could filter textures that sharp). The new conversion is definitely true to the original, but it bothers me that it wasn't _at least_ as good. I expect stuff like that to be better as the computational power today is practically limitless for games from the 90s.
@@snetmotnosrorb3946 You're right, looks like a resolution scaling difference though. You could try integer scaling from the N64 resolution up to native to see if that would get you as "sharp" a result as the N64 version.
However both are using very low resolution textures & will always be soft to some extend, especially on higher resolution displays.
All these retro shooters on Switch... I'm praying for Duke 3D
KCwellard it’s got to be coming at some point right? It even released on the Vita at one point....
ULFRIC STORMCLOAK I really hope so man!
Yes!! Duke 64 and DOOM 64 never left my N64 lol.
@@Mycarisloose It has been delisted now on vita though, if you didn't already own it, you can only get it through pkgj (won't get into that). If it doesn't come around... blame Randy.
I would love Ion Fury to come to consoles....most especially Switch!
Doom 64 was a masterpiece
Longarms no its was annoying made up mazes with little enemies. It s a a bad doom
Was?
How can you tell? The screen was completely black.
@Jeff Hunt I see your point, but could it not also be fair to say that in 1997 Doom 64 was under appreciated and received its 6s and 7s due to reviewers being enamoured by the impressive 3D of Turok and Goldeneye 007, rather than its praise now being dismissed as 'revisionist'? I though Doom 64 was an excellent game in 1997, and I still think it is in 2020.
@@StarwindAmada1 is 😃👌🏻
Wow, I had no idea Doom 64 was so advanced. Great video.
Just finished Doom64 a few days ago. I think it has become my favorite out of the classic Doom games.
I personally prefer no filtering and the 60 FPS new viewmodel animations of Absolution. Of course, I will still purchase it, at minimum to support this wonderful attention to detail and technical investigation of the N64. But I think Absolution's changes are faithful and objectively improve the experience.
Edit: Thankfully, the new version supports disabling filtering!
I never played this back in the day but it’s one of my favourite Doom games now. I literally just collected the third special rune for the Unmaker when the notification for this video came in. I’m actually on my 6th play through (two of which on my N64). I love how the levels are more puzzle-y and make you think more. I’ve still not actually loaded up Doom Eternal!
I didn't like it at all back in the day! Duke 64, Quake 64 felt a lot more playable to me. Nowadays I absolutely love this game, I got it free pre ordering doom eternal and haven't been able to put it down!
Had it on the 64, but always looked too dark to me. Couldn't get into it. Though I just downloaded the remaster and already on level 6. What a game.
Curry Chips Did you have the US version? That release was really dark and after negative feedback the PAL release allowed the brightness to be adjusted much higher (much like this new release allows).
Stopped playing doom eternal to continue playing doom 64. Doom 64 is really good. I had it on n64 and appreciate being able to play it again on console.
@@dreamcastfan Nah, the PAL. Might've been my TV. I dunno. Also, Goldeneye was distracting me a lot.
Man, watching these videos really brings home just how much of a technical marvel the Nintendo 64 was back in the 90's, and I'm hoping beyond hope we get some kind of N64 Classic or N64 games added to the NSO service.
And of course, kudos to the developers that gave us all these experiences back then.
I was soo sad when I finished this game. Such a fun, amazing and kinda haunting experience !
The music on the one stage with distorted infant crying is very disturbing.
I would like to see Night Dive reverse engineer and remaster Turok 3 and the PC ports of the original Resident Evil 1,2 & 3
There's already the good ol' "SourceNext" versions of PC Resis + fan patches circulating around the net.
There are even AI-upscaled background mods.
They're busy with system shock R
@@chillhour6155 and also making an enhanced edition of system shock 2, Sin and shadowman
@@Megaspartan23 youre messing with me, was this confirmed for real ?, ShadowMan was such an amazing game that time forgot
I would love to see how they would handle a Blood 2 remaster. I love it but it is one of the most broken games i've ever played.
I'm so happy with this new conversion. Nightdive studios has reached legendary status \m/
Great video! Thanks for reaching out to the Nightdive videos and getting this port documented.
Gonna grab this on my Switch, loved the originals! Another great video guys...as always. Cheers
This video got me off the fence with picking this up. So great to hear about a team putting such love and effort into restoring old games, rather than the usual slap dash emulation jobs. You earned my £3.99. Thanks John for shining a light on their work in your usual awesome way.
Beat Doom, Doom 3, and Doom 2016. Currently playing Doom 2. I really hope they bring the Quake games to Xbox. Quake 3 Arena is my 2nd favorite shooter of all time, and I have literally spent over a thousand hours playing it on my PC. Also, where the heck are the Unreal games?!
There is a quake 3 arena on xbox live marketplace for the 360. I believe the disc version of quake 4 for the 360 has quake 2 included.
@@FoxUnitNell Are you sure? Anyway I don't have a 360. Quake 4 is also not bc with the Xbox One. I would know, because my Xbox One S spit out the disc when I tried.
Hope they remaster next
Shadows of the empire
4k 60fps and modern controls please
They'd have to make a deal with EA or something since they now have exclusive rights to Star Wars games... Kinda sucks, SotE is one of my favorite N64 games, I'd love to see it remastered or even remade from the ground up!
Disney really dropped the ball when they didn’t allow more companies to use the Star Wars license.
Emulator it is then.
Or not. That game has aged insanely poorly, your nostalgia for it is remembering it wrong.
That’s Up to EA n Disney..
Favorite doom game. I love the over the top new dooms, but this game is just doom how I remember it
Same, DOOM 64 is the one stuck in my nostalgic memories!
and Doom 64 is actually the real third part of the Doom series ;-)
And a hell of a lot more enjoyable than the actual Doom 3, if you ask me.
no its not. its a reimagining of doom 1 and 2.
@@mjxbox nope
it plays from the story after Doom 2 and is a completely new story of its own.
Doom 3 on the PC is not a real new part because it is only a remake of the first part.
Especially in Doom 2016 there are hints that it plays for a while after Doom 64 and with Doom Eternal it is even confirmed
@@mjxbox false. It takes place after Doom 1 and 2.
@@SirTapparunii you right. but its not with the new game is it?
I`d love a psx doom remaster, the sound effects and music were really eerie.
There's a mod for PC Doom that gives you just that.
It however feels very underwhelming once bumped up, as the level geometry and detail is severely cut compared to PC originals.
Have you looked into the PSX DOOM TC? They ported over all the PS1 levels into the GZDoom source port with pretty much 100% faithfulness (though AFAIK they had to recreate the Final DOOM levels by editing the PC originals; FD had some weird encryption), including all the sound effects, music and even trying to bring over the monster rebalancing.
They also made their own fork of GZDoom for a "Master Edition [GEC]" revision, which I assume is even more faithful; for instance apparently they're now using the original PS1 Final DOOM levels rather than recreations.
There's the psx doom enhanced edition which is really good as well. I like the new touches. Adding to the game visuals and gameplay while not drastically changing it.
Jae Blaze You got a link for this PSX Doom enhanced edition please?
You nailed it! That version with the soundtrack and the ability to lan up the PS1 consoles...was killer!! Check out some of the Doom mods out there.
Jaguar! Alien versus Predator on the Jaguar is still my favorite AVP game. I wish that John would do a retro deep dive on Alien versus Predator for the Jaguar
The ONLY thing that would make this release better is seeing it on GOG.
Is the steam version drm free?
@@drobnoxius9483 that is a very good question. I haven't tried running it without the client yet.
Done!
@@hetfield144 holy crap they did it!
Played a hell out of both Dooms for PS1 back in the days and the 3DO Doom before it. Bought a PS1 connection cable to play co-op and deathmatch with my friend.
Huge thanks for the developers to let me play some more Doom and for DF for the review.
Glad to hear the developers work on Shadow Man remake. Even on PlayStation it was one of the best game of the generation for me because of atmosphere and level design.
Not a remake... a remaster.
Why are people always getting the two terms mixed up?
Depends on how you define it, I suppose. In this case Nightdive Studios had to essentially recreate much of the game, so in that sense it is a "remake." One could also make the argument for Doom 64 itself being a remake of sorts of the DOS games, which would make this version a remaster of a remake.
But generally, yeah - if it's just an enhanced update of the original, then it's a remaster. Remakes tend to be more of a reinterpretation, which is exactly the opposite of what Nightdive were trying to achieve.
@@Okusar I agree. Nightdive rebuilt this game in a completely new engine. The intention was to keep the experience as close as possible but I do feel that calling it a remake is accurate here.
@@brpadington I know because the original source code was lost, a lot of hard work by some very talented people went into creating this, but I still think of it as a remaster. All the graphics and assets are identical to the original, just now running in 16:9 with higher resolution, higher framerate and improved lighting.
@@vio2112 That is all true. Like I said this one is a different case than most remasters or remakes. You could just call it a port and that would be accurate as well since a lot of ports involve being rewritten from the ground up.
Kinda like confusing RAM and Storage
I've been waiting for this! In my opinion, Doom 64 is *the* best classic style Doom game. It is so freaking good. It has many of the new enemies Doom 2 introduced, plus way better level design. And having just recently replayed Doom 1, 2, and 64-that opinion was only reinforced.
DF vids are the only thing I base my schedule off of during quarantine.
And people got mad when MS advertised the XB1s as higher resolution than the ps4. Turns out they were just talking about n64 ports the whole time. 😋
All joking aside 1440p on the XB1s is still pretty cool even if it's an old game.
It is very cool. I bet the ps4 could do it, technically, but it just doesn't support higher than 1080p output. Even the UI and streaming video caps out at 1080p. The S supports full 4k output though. Not surprising since it has a 4k BD player. Cool bonus for owners of the S.
The S was never talked about wrt being higher res in terms of games, but in other media use cases (4K blur ray, 4K streaming, etc.).
I'm pretty sure the S could handle more classic games in higher resolutions than fullhd. Especially the original xbox ones through backward compat, I think Microsoft just wanted to keep all the 4K gaming to the X console to have some marketing material.
I love how the N64 version was so dark that the darkest settings in the remaster is still brighter.
Aubrey Hodges soundtracks on PS1 and N64 were god teir!
ScottM1 God
@@Mycarisloose GOD! 👍
I simply love df retro! Thank you for helping us mantaining sanity in these difficult times
That sound when you pick up a key....
omg the memories,playing doom when I was 16 at my parents house
Family friendly Nintendo having an exclusive high quality DOOM game back in the 64 days.
And yet Doom 1 and 2 were censored on GBA
Iirc Nindendo was kinda ok with games like Doom at that point IF you actively avoided marketing your game to kids. Games like the SNES Mortal Kombat, which featured probably the most notorious Nintendo cencorship, really went after kiddies, which is when Nintendo stepped in.
They had conker a bad fur day which was more rated 4 then this game
Yeah... and the blood was actually 'red'..!! :-D A great game, and a great port to the Switch, PC, PS4 (haven't tried the Xbox One version yet).
Nice video; thanks DF :-)
It wasn’t unheard of for the 64 to have more adult games, I had Mortal Kombat 4 on it and Let’s not forget Conkers Bad Fur Day!
Truly the best Doom sequel of all times. Doom3 is an enjoyable horror game, the new Dooms are twichy modern-retro shooters. But Doom64 really manages to get the foreboding atmosphere right without excessively slowing down the gameplay.
A masterpiece, still today.
I missed it on the N64 back then and now I'm happy to play it on Xbox today! one of the best Doom ever and a great remaster!
Icing on the cake Is the fact that it's $5 on all platforms.
I really looking forward to see Quake 2 on actual consoles 😇
I only wish they would port the PSX version - I liked its design choices more, plus the multiplayer!
quake 2 was on xbox 360 in the quake 4 limited edition
@@turbotrup96 yep with local multiplayer mode 😏👌 good memories from childhood with psone 😇
@@Archvile1 unfortunately I have only ps4 pro, therfore version of quake 2 with pathtracing will be awesome offer 😀
on a ps4 pro? lol good luck. i cant even do 720p60 in quake 2 rtx on my gtx 1080
Man... I wish I was able to be part of the team. I used to be a Modder back in the 90's for Doom and Duke3D. I used to study its engine like it was a bible. It's good to hear these devs talk about the hurdles because it reminds me of the days I was into it. Also, only gansta codes in assembly.
I finally beat this game a few days ago, Unmaker and all! Bless you for this.
Gyro aiming on Nintendo Switch is fantastically implemented.
Gyro aiming always has been and always will be unusable. Try more traditional controls and your mind will be blown by how much more playable the game becomes.
@@mjc0961 Spoken like a true newb.
@@mjc0961 Try playing on a PS4 Controller and then try a Switch controller and your mind will be blown away. I'm not talking about mouse and keyboard, which is of course superior in both cases.
As always, John and Digital Foundry always put up quality content that’s great to listen to. John is one of the best at doing professional interviews, and always comes prepared. Whenever Richard comes through in certain videos, it’s crazy to think he was writing reviews back in the late 80s for gaming publications, and he’s still as passionate about it now as he was then.
As for Doom 64, even though I never had an N64, some of my best friends did, and this game, despite having a good PC, a Saturn, and PS-One, Doom 64 always impressed me.
The sprites held up incredibly well, and they have me wondering if only a handful of them are pre-rendered, given that the original 1993 Doom relied on claymation for almost all of the enemies. The Baron of Hell in Doom 64 looks very similar to the original Doom claymation model, but it’s rendered in a higher resolution, with sprite filtering. The N64 Baron of Hell looks like it also has all of the animation that was missing from the other early Doom 1-2 console ports, some of which only had his front facing sprite animations.
The way each sprite integrates well with the 3D environment, from the lighting, to the textures, makes Doom 64 one of my favorite Doom games ever made. Based on the official Doom titles, for me, it’s Doom 1, Doom 2, Doom 64, Doom 2016, Doom Eternal, then Doom 3.
The N64 was such a beast at the time.
The PC port is pretty much perfect I'm loving it, I haven't even played Doom Eternal yet
Same, had to 100% Doom 64 first
Lol me too. Playing Doom 2 at the moment. Then Doom 64, and a run through Doom 2016 and finally Doom Eternal. Why? what the hell else am i going to do during this pandemic.
Stopped playing eternal and replaying all the classics including doom 64. Eternal is good but these games are crazy fun especially on harder difficulties.
Play Doom Eternal man
I love this release. Doom 64 is one of my favorite games on a platform I otherwise strongly dislike. Given that this version is available now, I have packed up my N64 and stored it in its box in the closet, not needing it now that I can play a superior version of Doom 64, and do so with modern dual analog stick controls. Now, I cross my fingers that Limited Run Games or another outlet can get the rights to produce a physical version, especially on Switch. Doom 64 is totally worth it.
Wish was granted! haha
@@strahm998 Indeed so! Coincidently, my name is also Brady haha
This along with their Turok conversions are great works.
I'm curious to see what games Night Dive tackle next!
Love to the team also.
Man I love this game. Overall my favorite Doom game and this remaster is perfect. Thank you Nightdive for bringing this thing to life. I've been having a blast with the PC and Switch versions.
Please support Nightdive and also get the Turok 1 and 2 remasters if you haven't already guys. They also also excellent conversions. Quite a bit more pricey than Doom 64 here, but still worth the dough IMO.
Amazing work, guys. I had never played Doom 64 until this port and it’s now my favorite classic Doom game ever. I enjoyed it and held my attention more than any version/port of Doom 1 and/or 2 before it.
Now call up Konami and remaster Mystical Ninja 64 Starring Goemon I implore you!
Played it for the first time on the Switch. A fantastic game! One of the best Doom games for sure.
It ran NUTS! and the framerate was steady. Utter madness!
Doom, Wolfentein, Heritic, Descent.... such an amazing time for gaming when these came out. I never knew Doom64 was such a classic
This is indeed a great port and tons of fun, I do however wish that I could skip the intro logo movies since it takes so long when I just want to play some Doom64,
So devs if you happen to read this, please patch in a skip logo button.
If you're playing on Steam you can use the _-skipmovies_ launch option to skip them. I'd like to see a proper ingame setting for this as well, but this works just as well.
@@Pokemanic33 thank you for your reply but I have the PS4 version so unless the devs patch this me and every other console user needs to waste like a full minute every time to play and not because of loading but because of logo's, I mean if a game is loading than it's loading but forcing us to wait so long every time just for company logo's is just ridiculous.
Such a labour of love from those teams I do hope they were well rewarded for their efforts, the love they poured into the conversion is obvious, and coming from an old skool gamer that grew up on DOOM, Hexen and Quake this is one of my favourite versions of DOOM and the fact it's portable on Switch, runs great and feels like the ultimate version of classic DOOM is the absolute cherry on the cake.
10/10 from me, never feels old jumping on this for a blast.
Great interviews! Glad to see the best Doom game getting love again! :)
Great to see the technical achievements at Nightdive get the spotlight! I’d love to see a similar video comparing System Shock Enhanced Edition, original System Shock on floppies, and the latest build of the new remake.
Best Doom game ever.
I always knew something was different about the way N64 rendered textures, but I had no idea what or how to even google it. I just noticed smoothing appeared like a smear from the top-right to the bottom-left and every console or pc capable of texture filtering I've played on since hasn't had that same look. Thanks for putting a name to it.
Doom 64 on Xbox One S reach native 1440p 🤤
@Salt Maker i have One X and PS 4 Pro no problem for me.... 🤣
What is the resolution on the x, for doom 64?
@@acenewyork74 native 4k
@@revelator3665 Nice, thanks.
This Doom 64 port is miles better than the port Nerve software did for the OG Dooms, despite the great improvements they’ve made to those games. The controls are less slippery and you can rebind the controls. If only Nightdive ported Doom 1 and 2 instead of Nerve. Though I’m just ecstatic that I can play Doom on my switch now.
Yeah, Nightdive being in charge of porting Doom 1,2 & all of its expansion packs on consoles would've been amazing to see happen. Nightdive would've actually built the ports off of a sourceport like GZDoom or maybe PrBoom+ in order to give players the best experience possible instead of using the DOS versions for once. The Console audience deserves a more up-to-date OG Doom experience imo.
Holy hell, ive been dreaming of playing this game for years. Never thought id have a chance to experienceit in 4k lol. Is it wierd that im almost more excited to play Doom 64 than Eternal?
No it's not weird
I saw Nightdive just bought the rights to Powerslave / Exhumed which I'm really excited about.
BloodGDX 1.8 runs it beautifully, it's great.
That's awesome! Exhumed/Powerslave needs to be introduced to more people!
I wish this version would receive some more new levels, like for instance the Absolution levels seen in one of the PC conversions.
Awesome! The preservation of the 3 point bilinear filtering!
Wow, I had no idea just how advanced the Doom 64 engine is compared to the first two games. It really is the true Doom 3!
Always a treat to hear from the developers, they've got a real passion for old shooters it seems like. Might just have to check out the Turok PC ports now.
Now I understand why hud elements like weapons are not filtered. And this port is even better without AA and with scanlines shader, which is how I play.
Is it bad to enable SMAA in this port?
@@Fendera1 Nope, both SMAA and FXAA give the same results which are very good and FXAA-Fast is the most effective in removing pixel craw in my tests (It nearly eliminates all jaggies and I haven't see any downside like blur). But I use Reshade to emulate scanlines and give that retro look to this game, which doesn't work with post-fx AA, only MSAA looks good with scanlines, even enhancing the effect. I do this to most retro fps and pixel art games because I started gaming in 1987 and I miss the look of CRTs back in the day.
Weren't the HUD elements unfiltered in the original as well? If I remember correctly, 2D graphics showed hard pixel edges, like in the dialog text in Mario 64, or the sprites in Yoshi's Story.
@@obvfw You can see the difference in this video, the weapons are filtered in N64 and Doom 64ex, but in this new official port they are not, because they used shaders instead of linear filter to make It look closer to the source. Letters on the other hand I can't say because I don't have a copy of Doom 64 to test, but my N64 is RGB modded and I have an RGB monitor so when I have the cartridge I will update (which can took months because of this f****** pandemic). But Yoshi Story is filtered in stages, only menus are not.
@@ZinhoMegaman Interesting. Yeah, I don't have real hardware to go off of anymore, I'm using angrylion's software rendering plugin on Mupen. It's supposed to be more accurate, but maybe it's still not all the way there. The red smearing effect is kept intact though.
Nightdive already did other N64 games. Turok 1,2, Forsaken among others. I wish they would remaster Turok 3 too.
Turok 3 and Turok Rage Wars is still 100% N64 exclusive. Their remasters is always very good. I bought all of them.
Fantastic. Glad we can enjoy D64 now, tbh when I was a child I don't think I could have finished it. Loved Doom, but it was scary. And this is way darker, haha.
Midway Games were legendary. doom 64 and gauntlet dark legacy (xbox/ps2/gc) were some of my fav games as a kid.
I still hope Forsaken and Turok 2 Multiplayer finds its way on the Switch.
Really enjoying Doom 64. Aside from the red on black menu text, it's great.
Doom 64, Turok 1+2 and soon Shadowman.. Man my Switch is slowly becoming a nintendo 64!
I hope they will release an official port of Exhumed / Powerslave on PC and console (a port of both consoles and PC ones would be even better).
It's a huge shame that literally none of the re-releases of Doom/Doom II/Final Doom include the improvements made to PS1 Doom. PS1 is a stepping stone to Doom 64. It has new lighting effects. It has a completely revamped soundscape, including room-based reverb, new weapon/enemy sounds, and a new soundtrack by Aubrey Hodges. I'm not saying they shouldn't include the original sounds and music and stuff for people that prefer them. But having the enhanced PS1 versions as an option would be invaluable. Let people toggle them. Don't let them fade into obscurity. Similarly, if Quake 1 ever gets re-released, and it really should, I'd like to see Aubrey Hodge's Quake 64 OST included. If Quake II ever gets re-released, I'd like to see Quake 2 N64's campaign included (Quake II N64 was essentially a new+remixed mission pack, with an Aubrey Hodges soundtrack.)
If you have PSX Doom TC you can change the options like having either the PC or PlayStation sprites and sound effects plus other cool stuff.
I loved the N64. Even though it was dumb sticking with cartridges at that point, it was still an amazing console. It was also awesome how every console at that time really had it's own strengths, weaknesses, & personality.
Cool video, John. Now round up the original development team and chat with them. 🙃
He's not even chatting with them.
Great Idea and Work with the Text not longer disappearing!
Really, had the Chance to read many of them for the first Time :)
Someone forgot about Child of Light running about 1440p.
did that actually output at 1440p tho? there have been many games over the years that run at above the output resolution and downsample from there.
Titanfall 2 on One X with its dynamic resolution can reach 6k in very simple scenes, but of course it can not output 6k so the game downsamples to 4k.
not the One S can of course output 1440p but that doesn't mean developers will set it up so it will output that.
@Velzek Child of Light was released before the One S was on the market tho correct? meaning that it is very likely that what they did was to render a 1440p frame and downsample it to 1080p. since the og One did not support 1440p it is very much possible that the game will simply output a 1080p image on a One S (which is then of course upscaled to whatever resolution you set the console to)
@Velzek the question is if they could rely on scaling on base Xbox One. the base Xbox One was never designed to output anything above 1080p, so it could be that developers had to use a software downscaler in order to render at above 1440p and not have part of the screen cut off or something.
it would be an interesting small video for Digital Foundry to do. test possible 1440p/higher than 1080p games on One S. maybe there are more possible candidates.
also! what I was wondering for a while now is at what resolution Perfect Dark HD runs at on Xbox One X. I am wondering that because it has a One X patch, and 360 games that get One X enhanced did get enhanced in the exact same way at all times, and that is a 9x resolution increase (3x horizontal and 3x vertical). This usually results in games running at 4K, for native 720p games, or close to 4K for games that didn't reach 720p on 360.
The thing is... Perfect Dark HD was a 1080p game on 360, this means a 3x increase on each axis would make it 6k! 5760x3240
It was pretty cool hearing directly from the devs on this one. I appreciate their dedication to ensuring the new conversion looked as accurate to the original N64 version as they could possibly get. BUT this new version DOES have a few issues. Buttons can't be remapped particularly well. If you remap a button, the original button remains there, and even if you change that same button to a new mapping, it remains on the original mapped function.
For instance, I've always played my PC games where next weapon is scroll down, and previous weapon is scroll up. On this game they're backwards from that, however when I try to remap them, even though the menu says scroll up is now for previous weapon, the function for scroll up remains on next weapon as well, and as far as I know, there's no way to clear a mapped function. I appreciate having multiple mappings for a single function, but you should be able to easily clear it. I had to go into an ini file and adjust it that way. Hopefully they'll fix this in a patch. Minor issue, but still a big irritation.
Night Dive is for retro FPS's what M2 and Hamster are for arcade shooters it seems. lol
The impact of weapons in this remaster is really good, got a lot of fun during my run.
Was hoping you would cover the three anti aliasing options available - any recommendations from the community as to the best AA option on the Switch port? Or is it better to leave AA off?
Leave AA and the texture filtering off
@DejaVoodooDoll He was referring to the texture filtering though, not the AA.
I'm pretty sure the AA method used in the new port is probably a modern post-process AA, and not a replication of the N64's but idk.
Still got my NTSC Nintendo 64 and ten games all boxed with original bags doom 64 being one of them,truly awesome game.
Digital foundry really loves dooms series..doom series has the most videos analysis on digital foundry
I've been playing Doom 64, it's fantastic, and the remaster looks awaesome. I had it on N64 and always found the graphics so dark and muddy. The remaster is so much brighter and cleaner, the sprites look way better, really brings the game to life. Best version of the game for sure.
Nightdive, would you kindly give us 4K Turok ports for the PS4?
You'll make a former N64 owner really happy
Surprised that they haven't done this already. I would love to have Turok 1&2 on PS4!
They even did the N64 texture filtering! what an port. Congratulations to the dev for being this awesome.
Still waiting for Turok 3 port from Nightdive
I hope they'll do 3, and rage wars but give it online and release them all as a collection for all systems
Glad I'm not the only one
The real genius of Game developers for the N64, was the ability to fit a game like this on to an N64 cartridge versus the Atari jaguar and PlayStation one doing the same on a much larger CD format. Kudos to the programmers.
Jaguar version was cartridge based.
Fleem Eyman you’re right. In my head it was CD based.
I paid $74.99 plus tax for this game when it came out. It was the most expensive N64 game I ever bought.
*paid
£49.99 for me back in 1998. Worth every penny!
Gotta give it to Night Dive studios for doing an amazing job preserving these classic games. as much as humanly possible.
Will this get a local coop/multiplayer patch like the recent ports of the original doom 1 and 2 games?
Doom 64 on the N64 didn't have multiplayer.
I'm liking these Retro Doom videos. I'm hoping that you will eventually get to Doom 3.
Lots of people hated Doom 3, but I was of the minority that loved it.
the best Doom for me. Hoped this series had gone this way, instead of a new Interpretation Doom 3.
Can I somewhere download a hires texture pack?
Try doom 64 enhanced on pc.
This is an amazing video, so good to have dev insight. By all means if this was an hour long I'd watch the whole thing.