There's a significant flaw in the study that used the coarse vs fine sugar and determined that a fine texture results in a higher perception of sweet. Since they used sugar as their source of sweetness, the finer texture is going to dissolve more easily, resulting in a stronger sweet taste, even if they have a similar mass of sugar present. Coarser sugar means less sugar contacts the taste receptors regardless of how much overall sugar is there. As it is, all they really determined is that food containing sugar delivered in a form that's easier to dissolve tastes sweeter. If they want to establish the effect of texture on taste, they really need a non-flavored method of affecting texture.
Yep, that was the one I was immediately skeptical about. They should have kept the sugar blend the same and used something else to affect texture (like wafers) if they wanted to truly test sweetness perception. I immediately thought of coarse vs fine salt
It's more about salivary amylase and transformation of sucrose (which is barely sweet, and tastes "vaguely fruity" rather than sweet) into glucose (which tastes like invert syrup). The receptor itself is more responsive to glucose. If it has a rough texture and it's not because of sugar crystals, participants will just outright HATE it. Are you kidding me? What you want is to add more sugar in the rough recipe to compensate for how poorly dissolved it is. In which case, it would strictly NOT be a matter of principle, and it would be done just because it's obviously the thing to do.
"We played holiday music and asked them to rate the taste of the food. Overwhelmingly people rated food as having had tasted better, with the exception of one group of outliers who were convinced that the food was rotten; all of whom worked retail"
@TheChosenOne-l6c I worked retail for years, and could not manage to "Do" Christmas until I'd been OUT for MANY years, AND had a child to decorate for and with 😅 Retail has many horrors. Pulling an "all nighter" to get Christmas ornaments etc displayed in early Sept is just one, but it is a POWERFUL one. We'd actually SELL DVD's of the Christmas music we'd play on loop too. 😅
I worked retail for the holidays specifically and my apparent ability to tune out my hearing helped significantly in not getting annoyed at the music. Because most of the time I couldn’t even hear the music over the customers and other workers talking to me and my own inner chaotic music. Pretty much only songs I actually enjoyed made it through, which is crazy, even to me who experienced it.
One weird symptom of depression is that it can actually make your senses feel dulled. I've heard people say colors and music feel more vivid after recovering from severe depressive episodes. Personally, I've had really bad mental health days where i genuinely thought I had caught covid because the taste and smell of my food was so different. Makes sense, if mood and pleasure can affect our senses like that.
That's really interesting. I have also wondered if COVID or Long Covid were messing with me again. I can smell next to nothing right now. And I am also feeling depressed because my fiance is thousands of miles away and probably will be for a while.
I made my own comment just before which kinda relates to this, but I suffer severe sensory problems after being given psych meds for this sort of thing due to misdiagnosis of depression and a bunch of other stuff. They have altered my brain in extremely debilitating and bizarre ways. Like sound and light mixing, perceptional distortion and hallucinations, phantom pains and sensations that I can somewhat control through thought. I have lots of visual/perception issues and I see colours and lights that no one else can. Some of the distortions I have control over and I have no idea why or how. I also have control over certain autonomic processed. I had my first migraine in 2022 that sent me to ER from all this and not only did I loose vision, I experienced the visual auras and the colours in them were hyper saturated. So I have experienced what they call hyper colours where they are saturated beyond 100%. After the blindness recover, the hyper saturation for my normal vision persisted for hours.
I had a depressive episode in very early 2021, when I was in college and under pretty tight covid restrictions. I didn't sleep well or leave my room to get food for a couple of days, so I was subsisting on whatever snacks I had and tea. On the third or fourth day of this, I felt absolutely awful and my tea didn't taste like it usually did, so told my friend that I thought I had covid. He realized that he hadn't seen me in a couple of days (we often went to pick up food together even though we had to eat in our rooms) and went to get me some real food. Lo and behold, I felt much better once I had eaten some vegetables and protein, and I did not in fact have covid.
I’m not sure these are really examples of synesthesia. One of the best representations of synesthesia I’ve ever seen is in the movie Ratatouille, when Remy hears music and sees color explosions when he eats. It’s not just one sense influencing another, it’s one sense activating another. The food didn’t make the music or colors more intense or more pleasant, it created the colors and music altogether.
Yeah. I have number-color synesthesia (two is bottle green, four is cerulean, etc.) as well as numero-spatial synesthesia (numbers, including time, exist in space, so I could give you walking directions to the 18th century), and this is ... related, but not quite the same.
The video does not claim that the examples are synesthesia but like synesthesia. They even just say "kinda", which implies they know that's stretching things. Edit: My ex has synesthesia and saw colours when hearing sounds and colours produced sounds. Varying intensity with different colours/sounds.
Certain flavors are "warm" or "cold" and it has nothing to do with the temperature of the food itself. You could give me a burning hot cucumber and I'd still brain it as cold.
Yet I am positive if you grew up with cucumbers burning you all the time, and fire was green. You would associate that with hot. That is why I think this study is lame. How do we test what is association, and what is hard wired. I feel like synesthesia is definitely hard wired. I remember the guy who hated Derek. Said it tasted like ear wax. I wonder if he was bullied or something by a Derek.
I saw this comment pop up when I got to that part of the vid, and I was like "isn't that a potato?" But then I went back and looked across the table. 😂😂 I've definitely cut sandwiches in half with a butter knife before, but the fork is new!😅
My sister "tastes" color: sweet, sour, salted, bland. She once said "I can't stand [brother], living room color, it makes me nauseous as it tastes too sweet." She is awesome as decoding paint colors.
Could also be expectations and how people select something when given an ambiguous question like pick what this scent smells like. We know candy canes are red and peppermint. We associate some things with others because people portray them like that. A gross smell is green or yellow in cartoons. Bile, sulfur and some sickly stool is similar in color. We said yes this color is stinky. It might be less synesthesia and more shared experience influencing what we pick.
entirely. we are, in a large way, taught how to understand what we experience and how we experience our senses can fluctuate depending on other external stimuli. so yea it’s not synesthesia lol
@@grizzlyalmighty2 it's a typo, the study is on the words "bouba" and "kiki" which are not real words, yet the majority of people associated roundness with "bouba" and sharpness with "kiki"
This is cool! I'm someone who actually has synaesthesia in the traditional sense (some examples: 0:15 "Phillip" is a pink name with some gold-yellow spots/highlights; Adenosine, Thymine, Guanine, and Cytosine of DNA are red with some orange, yellow-orange with some light green, green, and light blue respectively, with the dominant colours being Red, Yellow, Green, and Blue). Synaesthesia also runs in families in my experience, my mother and I both have it (myself to a greater extent) but my dad doesn't. My mother and I are both also neurodivergent (ADHD and Asperger's/ASD), but I seem to have more symptoms/be slightly further "on the spectrum". Also, it might be a case of like attracting like but several of my friends who are also on the spectrum also experience synaesthesia of various senses. I suspect that the hyperconnected nervous systems of people with ASD and ADHD causes their brains to be "cross-wired" and process sensory information in multiple areas of the brain.
I have Asperger and ADHD but I do not have that sensation/experience. The only thing that maybe is a bit different is that I have a very good nose, I smell things other people do not smell until they are very close to the source. I also can smell if something tastes good . I can not split taste from smell. They are one. If it does not smell nice I do not like the taste.I never have to taste if I like something. They are so strong coupled that I truly can not eat things that smell not nice. It goes so far that I can smell if the milk or meat will be bad over 2 days while everybody else think it is still good. There is no sharp good/bad smell. But it is hard to explain.
I'm AuDHD, and with my auditory synaesthesia, it's really clear that my brain was trying to work around my auditory processing disorder. I have the most extreme sensations tied to music that would have been played for me a lot as a baby, or to other very complex, overwhelming sounds. (I do have a couple really funny ones. Since I trigger most strongly to music, music that doesn't associate at all feels really off to me, usually very simple stuff like elevator music or low-fi...or St Anger. Which makes a lot of metalheads in my life laugh, and usually forgive me for asking them to avoid certain vocalists around me.)
A question about the taste one. wouldn't the smaller sugar grains dissolve quicker in your mouth and thus taste sweeter than the bigger rougher sugar grains?
No, your sense of taste is accompanied by feeling. You dont eat too many painful sweets, but spicy foods are generally rated based on pain. More pain = spicier food, sweet is generally coupled with soft or smooth (harder cookies dont taste as sweet as soft cookies). Do you think sugar or caramel is sweeter, most would probably say caramel but caramel is characterized by a polymer reaction called Malliard reaction. PH affects taste as well, which is why your taste sour and bitter so strongly cause a very sharp feeling on the tongue.
My synesthesia is linguistic: I have the continuous voice dialogue going on in my head, but there's also a simultaneous music dialogue paralleling the voice. While looking at a painting, the verbal voice in my head might say "Wow, that's beautiful!", and at the same time, the non-verbal music voice might say "Da da da da dahh." This happens with any silent, read or spoken verbal sounds, meaning that I can hear the music of people, places, things, ideas, feelings, etc. If I have access to a music keyboard, I can share those musical "thoughts" with others.
I have the same exact opposite synesthesia, I can see colors/shapes/places/stuff in sound/music. One time I even recognized on a painting a very similar view to what I see with a song
I have a form of synethesia myself. Sensations inside my nose get translated to scents. If it's hot out, I can smell heat. Likewise with cold. And if I get bopped hard enough on the nose, the scent of pain is sharp and unmistakable. I can also _taste_ temperatures (though this might be cross-modal). It's rather annoying at times, though (for example, the taste of heat clashes _horribly_ with the taste of pepperoni, so for me pepperoni pizza is disgusting when hot, and delicious when cold).
Not terribly surprised. Right up there with food tasting better in good company. We are highly social animals so all of our senses contribute to our experience of the world-- the brain being the engine that facilitates it.
In high school we considered purple a flavor: it was only found in those frozen tubes of sugar water dreck. God, why did our parents let us eat all that trash?
The purple Heinz was ABSOLUTELY a different flavor. I did several blind tests (I’m a big ketchup guy), and it wasn’t that similar. Being an inferior product is why it tanked
That would be wild considering the US has all kinds of crazy colored food like their „normal“ Fanta looks absolutely unnatural and weird. Yet people drink that 😅 Why would they be confused be unnatural looking ketchup?
3:30 this is one of the fundamental ideas of sound design in entertainment like movies and video games. You can't feel anything on screen so the sounds have to carry the weight of communicating what things feel like: if the ground feels gravely or grassy, or the object is made of wood or stone or sand or if it's hollow or full of water. This also means badly-designed sounds can inexplicably make the game feel icky or disconnected. Some people can be more sensitive to the effect than others but well-designed sounds benefits most hearing people.
I found a relatively low dose of salvia divinorum extract gave me really intense synesthesia years ago when I was messing around. It was reliable and repeatable, but the overall experience was so unpleasant I can't imagine anybody would do it more than a couple times. It also came along with hypersensitive nipples that made wearing a shirt unbearable, intense cold sweating, and a strange awareness of my skeleton making me feel almost like a marionette puppet. It did also give sounds extremely distinctive physical sensations like hard edges, sharp corners, abrasive surfaces, and flowing waves as well as something that's almost color but not quite.
(I was young and I wanted to try experimenting with a psychedelic that was relatively non-dangerous, so I tried it at several different dosages with experiences ranging from having a 5 minute trip where I watched our reality stop existing as an out-of-sync tongue in an infinite wall of wagging tongues fell back into sync, to feeling kinda cold and uncomfortable with some synesthesia that I would say is comparable to a 2-beer buzz but cold and unpleasant)
Or maybe not quite synesthesia, but I certainly had experiences where the input on one sense would inform hallucinations in one or more other senses. Very strange stuff.
That’s literally documented symptom of psychedelics, everybody who’s done any kind of them at a high enough dose encountered the same in some way. As a shroom and LSD user back during covid
Interesting at 6:45 For all my life, whenever I wanted to take in a taste very intensely or concentrate on it, I have been closing my eyes and sometimes even asking people around me to stop talking for a moment, so I can taste better. And it works for me. Now, did that knowledge tell me any earlier than while watching that video, that this may be a VERY good reason not to watch videos while eating for 1) I may enjoy my meals way more when not bombarded with lots of other sensory input at the same time and 2) maybe I would even have an easier time to losing weight (which my health desperately demands) since I may enjoy smaller portions without sensory overload more than my now bigger portions with sensory overload? Embarrassingly, I only now realised that. Will try that out. Thanks, SciShow!
Bonus fact: I also close my eyes when I want to hear better or experience touch, like a massage or cuddling, more strongly and it feels like it works as well. As if freeing some RAM on my system allows the remaining senses to use more of it.
As well as if there's any evidence of a causal link between certain neurotypes and synesthesia. I'm autistic and I perceive moving 3D models whenever I think of numbers, which is apparently a rarer variation.
I had a certain point in life where I was starting to associate various video games with very specific smells each for some reason; I couldn't tell you what those smells were like, and the associations slowly faded away after a while, but I can tell you for a fact it was definitely not my sweat. 😐
My mother had synesthesia, but it wasn’t a well known, benign occurrence back a long time ago. Back in the 1970s, my mother complained to her family doctor about an intense pain in the back of her neck. When he asked her to describe the pain, she told him that it was more of a black colored pain, as opposed to the milder green colored pain that was in her elbow. He diagnosed her as having schizophrenia based on her as having or correlating pain with colors.
Advertisers have known this for decades. Note all the slinky saxophone music in chocolate adverts. Amplified sounds of the CRUNCH in cereal adverts etc. Sounds of fat sizzling even when the food shown isn't very fatty.
I think I kinda have synesthesia because some voices of those person I know. I can feel the shape(or sometimes I can see it but not in my eyes) of their voices. That's why even i'm in the crowd, I can notice them immediately.
I havent watched the full video yet, but I always thought of synesthesia as a sort of superpower: Think of a sheet of paper FILLED with very tiny 5's, everywhere just a million 5's in a tiny font. Somehwhere on that page you put a couple 2's in the same sized font. To our mundane senses it would take a long long time to scope out the hidden 2's. To someone with colour-number synesthesia, they would see a sea of red, with two very clear blue dots for example. It would be immediate, they wouldn't even have to "look" for it. Right from the very moment they looked at the page, they would already _know_ where the 2's are. Imagine how many unique scenarios and advantages could arise from the _massive_ pool of potential sensory combinations and overlap from synesthesia! There is some potential for having something like your sense of memory and sense of distance get overlapped, so that the further back a memory is, the "further away" that memory would physically feel, IIRC there have been recorded and/or reported cases of this that has been attributed to so called "total recall" or Eidetic memory. The possibilities are endless! Some musicians have tone-colour synesthesia and can perfectly remember any song from a single listen, and often times are able to actually "extrapolate" from only hearing a short clip of the music, because in their mind it forms a cohesive part of a colourful arrangement or image or some such. There's a _logic_ to the sense of colour, a sense of _knowing_ (similar to the 2's and 5's, they don't have to "think" about it) and so it's easy for them to *fairly* accurately just play the rest of the song despite having never heard that part of the song! The list goes on and on! If this intrigues you, I highly recommend looking more into synesthesia. It's magical! 😁 I whole-heartedly believe synesthesiacs are the next stage in human evolution. There's also the reality and potential of induced synesthesia! There are recorded cases of people having something like a brain trauma, or due to a disease their brain is affected in some way, or something else along those general lines, just spontaneously developing synesthesia! So in theory we may be capable of selectively inducing synesthesia medically!! There's so much potential!! -Sorry just to add one more at the end here: There's also a famous chef who has touch-taste synesthesia and he creates dishes that "feel" nice to him and they're often wild combinations of ingredients that nobody had ever tried before, but because he knew the "physical texture" was cohesive and made sense, that the dish would turn out in a favorable way. I remember hearing him describe mint as a cold glass pillar with water smoothly flowing down the entire surface, and in a weird way, I can kind of see how that would be the case! Sorry 🙇 🙏 Hahah I'm sure you can tell I'm a bit of a synesthesia fan boy, thank you for coming to my Ted Talk! 😅
Yeah sure, it's all nice when a fruit shake tastes chocolate despite having none because of the color but, then you end up with situations where I hate Carmel because it's color's flavor clashes with the actual flavor. Similarly, having too noisy (but not commiting to rainbow overload) of a color palette or too many people's voices/flavors/colors at the same time causes me to be overstimulated
Also synesthesia isn't magic. Pretty sure plenty of people without synesthesia have perfect pitch and the like. Sometimes the models we use allow us to process information more efficiently but, that shouldn't be unique to synesthesia, plenty of other people still have better information processing models than us. otherwise my sense that strategic options are a physical space would make me a grandmaster at chess and stuff but I'm sure plenty of of the pros don't share that sense but still have a more efficient model for processing potential moves Ok, rant over. It's a different experience not a better one is what I'm getting at
A superpower! :D I have synaesthesia, my visuals are generally in my mind's eye, so I don't tend to literally see 2s and 5s like how you describe, though I am very good at picking out details, and I can taste and smell things if I let myself (I tend to "block out" the extrasensory perception because it's like a deeper level of interfacing with a given stimulus, and I don't want to know more about a lot of things. I can taste and smell photographs if I let myself. My profile for example picture tastes bright, but of course the "taste" is also processed as colour for me, which is yellow-gold with pink). Just listening to a song without letting myself see/smell/taste it is very different from actually letting myself experience it, the latter can affect me very deeply. I don't listen to a lot of music because a lot of it does not benefit my health. I do think that everyone probably has ESP/synaesthesia to an extent. I can be really sensitive to the "vibe" and energy of a space, but even someone with less practice can tell when a place is creepy or when it's happy, bright, and comfortable. I'm also a musician, and I totally agree with music being colours and light (technically being a rendering/transcription of the "energy" of the piece). Probably related, playing instruments off the cuff is very easy for me and I can hear the next notes in my head and just intuitively know how the song goes. I also tend to be very creative in the kitchen and make "weird" combinations of ingredients that end up tasting awesome. It's fun to hear about other people with similar life experiences, thank you for sharing. It's very sweet that you call us the next stage of evolution but I will note that it does make existing in the modern day challenging at times... I suspect that the neurological basis for synaesthesia is a hyperconnected brain, so information is processed in a lot of places at once rather than just the regular spots (a neurological trait associated with Asperger's/ASD), meaning that I can also experience sensory overload or "shutdown" (including making speech very difficult or even very nearly impossible) if I am overstimulated or feel overwhelmed emotionally. I don't watch a lot of TV or movies because of this. Once, someone in the same room as me was watching a documentary about the Arctic or Antarctic that talked about people dying from the cold, I had to leave the room and cry and felt upset for the rest of the night. I still feel teary thinking about it. I carry earplugs with me everywhere to block out some of the stimuli of the everyday. I can't watch very fast-paced movies/TV or play very fast video games because I get overwhelmed with all of the information and I get headaches/nausea/dizziness/disorientation, and seeing people in pain or injured is extremely disturbing for me to see. I really can't stand horror, either. A world of only synaesthetes/people with more developed ESP would look very different from the one we have today. Some people probably don't get so easily overwhelmed or are able to choose to block out more information/refuse to process it on multiple "channels", but generally, people I know with synaesthesia tend to be highly sensitive.
Synesthesia comes at different levels of intensity. Only a minority of people with synesthesia actually see the color out there in the world the way you describe. For most synesthetes the number 2 is (for example) blue in their mind, and the number 5 red (these are my colors!), but 2s and 5s on a page are just whatever color they are printed in. I think it would be so cool to have such strong synesthesia that it painted over the world like that!
Some things I watch have flavors. They're not necessarily a food flavor but they're a flavor. If they're a really delicious flavor, my mouth will water and I will want more; but it's almost impossible to find something else with the same or similar flavor. So I end up watching the same thing over and over and over until I can escape the desire to 'consume' that flavor. I don't know if it's a kind of synesthesia, but I am AuDHD so my brain does things. I did go to uni with a "common" type synethetic. She saw sounds as colors and made some really beautiful paintings.
I have ASD and ADHD as well, and I (as well as my mother) am also a synaesthete. My theory is that the hyperconnected brains of people with ASD and ADHD causes information to be processed in multiple areas of the brain that they "normally" wouldn't, causing additional sensory experiences to be "output" from the same information. And yes, what you describe is a form of synaesthesia. If an input creates an additional output that it "should" not directly cause, it's synaesthesia. Someone I know who is also synaesthetic also tastes things.
This feels so validating. When I found out I had synesthesia I just couldn’t accept that it wasn’t freaking normal. I can accept that people have a lesser sensation of it sure but none at all makes no sense to me. I feel stupid or alienated in my experiences and knowing that people do have at least something similar is comforting.
I've always suspected I have a very mild form of synesthesia due to my brain automatically assigning very specific colours to every letter in the alphabet and every numerical digit. When I was a kid I'd often use coloured pencils to write letters and numbers in the colours that seemed natural to them. (The letter M is a crimson red for example, N is orange, P is a pale tan, O is dark navy blue, etc.) However since this doesn't seem to extend to anything else in my daily life to the point that I often don't even think about it until someone mentions synesthesia, I have to wonder if it even really counts as true synesthesia at all. All my math books were blue, grey or black, by the way. Science was either blue or green (if Math was blue, science was green, but if math was black or grey that year, science was blue.) Red I always reserved for English, and history was a very dark pine green or brown. I don't recall ever having many yellow notebooks.
I would say this is probably synesthesia, particularly given how individual and specific your associations are with letters. That would be an example of colour-grapheme synesthesia. There are synesthesia tests online that you can do for fun which get you to match the letters with the colours you associated them with. Frankly, my synesthesia is pretty unnoticeable day to day. The people who think it's a superpower either don't have it or want to feel special. It may help with creativity somewhat, or with organizing information, but since it is often paired with other conditions, it's hard to say for sure if it is a cause or an interesting side effect.
I agree with Math being blue and science being green, but for me English is purple and Social Studies/History is Orange. Yellow was my Homework folder, and Red was Spanish for me.
I have a rarer form called numerical-spatial synesthesia. My mind will automatically map numbers onto a 4-dimensional model. I say that because as I move around the number line, the model shifts around depending on where I am. It sort of resembles the quaternary structure of a protein. This also happens for dates of the year, the years themselves, and any other kind of sequence. I went most of my life thinking everyone visualized numbers this way, but apparently not.
Knowing the reference, here is a real response... it does. Red sports cars have higher insurance premiums and are more likely to be involved in traffic violations. Red go fast.
6 or so graphic design students working on assignments in college. Student no 1 ...What colour is 3? The rest gave suggestions varying around yellows, yellowy greens and greeny yellows. A minute later one pointed out that no one had questioned the concept that numbers had colours. Years later when I, at least, linked this with synesthesia and reslised that it was probably more common that we had been led to believe.
It's so interesting when there is a convergence among synesthetes about the color of a particular number or letter. 3 is defnitely green for me too. And red is by far the most common color for the letter A (though it's still a minority of all synesthetes). Seems there are some kind of cultural factors at work when this happens. For A's it makes sense, because the first letter of most alphabet books and sets for children is red, so that association gets built young. I wonder what the reason is for the green and yellow 3s?
@@erinm9445 3 (the written symbol) is a pale lilac-blue to me, spoken out-loud it definitely has some yellow, probably with some yellow-orange in there and some green. Shape versus mouth-shape/sound. Super weird. If your theory of cultural background is true, then perhaps they are subconsciously mapping the sequences onto the rainbow: A-1-RED, B-2-ORANGE, C-3-YELLOW, etc...
I read somewhere that 1 in every 7 artists is synesthetic which could help explain why the graphic design students all had it. I actually think it's probably more like 1 in 3 or 4. They might have even been attracted to GD because of all the colorful typography. I'm an art teacher and synesthete (color-grapheme), so that tracks. I'm pretty sure it's genetic, too. I remember a similar conversation with my mom and two sisters. The only color/number we could agree on was that 2 is blue...plus my middle sister looked at the other 3 of us and said "What on earth are you talking about?" Apparently only my youngest sister and I must have inherited it from our mom, and it wasn't learned because most of our colors and numbers didn't match up. BTW, I agree 3 is DEFINITELY green, as is Friday (anyone else do that with days of the week?)
Thank you, I love learning stuff. Violins actually hurt my hearing. I don't know why. But I heard one kid, about eleven years old, busking. I cried for the beauty, and still don't know why.
What about when you can see someone mouthing the sound of 'B' or 'P' but the audio is the same, but you hear it differently because of the crossover between sight and sound. This is absolutely mindblowing when you try it.. it's impossible to change, even if you know the trick. It would be very interesting to discover just how much your perception is influenced by other senses.. the whole of reality could be completely upside down and different! Talking of upside down - an old experiment has people wearing glasses with mirrors that turn your vision upside down. After a number of days, your brain flips it back and it's all normal again . But, when they took the glasses off - everything appeared upside-down again! Crazy... The image on the retina is flipped upside down anyway when it goes through the pinhole (exactly the same as how a pinhole camera sees the image). You'd expect that we just evolved to see the world the right way up, but as it turns out, the brain is FAR more plastic that we realise - and as this video explains, it's far more adaptable too.
Having known someone with synesthesia, one experience that several of us had was that when they described what color a person's voice was those of us without synesthesia found set the color felt correct. It is always made me suspect that we all have synesthesia it's just that most of us learn to ignore it. Those color/scent trials for the most fascinating and I'd love to see more along that line.
"Warmer" tones or lower frequency sound is redder while higher pitched "cooler" sounds are bluer. Sounds nearer the peak frequencies you can hear might be associated with green, yellow, or white.
At Heston Blumental’s restaurant they get you to crunch a carrot while listening to the sound processed and amplified. This apparently makes the carrot taste loads better.
How do we know if it's synesthesia or just pattern matching from past experiences? For example, higher frequency in dry hands and maybe you also met your first Danny who smelled like oranges. So now you associate Danny with any citrusy smell
My husband has synesthesia; he sees color with letters & music notes. An E is blue whether spoken, sung, written in print, or written in braille. lol. He can still see bright, saturated colors (though that's started to fade) & when he was younger he could read print a little if the letters were large & contrasted enough. He learned print, braille, & music all at about 5 & apparently the colors match an alphabet toy he had as a preschooler. (He has glaucoma as a complication to the surgery to remove his congenital cataracts. It's progression has been slowed way down, though what sight remains isn't terribly useful anymore. He's nearly 50. He did get to see April's eclipse, tho! And he'll always see color when he's reading or listening to music.)
Math is blue because most things dealing with computers are blue, Science is green because it starts with the natural world which is mostly green, English or Literature is yellow because you need light to write and the sun is yellow, and History is red because much of history is written in blood which is red.
History is blue because it's dead and cold. Science is yellow because most of those experiments make me nauseous. Language is red because they are a no go for me. Math is green because that's just logical.
One sec, computers are more frequently black than blue, nature is mostly blue, since we live on a water world. Actually the CMB is most visible in every direction so science is microwave colored /jk or invisible I guess if you want to count dark energy. but it's funny how our brains convince us they're arriving at a logical conclusion when you could use near anything
i don’t think that associations between senses and experiences is synesthesia 😅 isn’t that just how senses work? this is misdefining synesthesia as the effect of our senses working together and influencing each other.
1:24 uhhh, yeah. This video title is bad and you should feel bad. The channel has been around since dang near the start of UA-cam, so i thought yall would be aware of how people will mis-learn and misrepresent things later on to others. None of the following examples are anything close to what synesthesia is considered, just ways our experiences can influence something that follows closely. I know this channel was headed this way when you did the video on ABA therapy. It's just bad pop science communication now.
Just looked at "ABA therapy" as a refresher. I've an entire ASD/AuDHD family tree, so navigating the neurotypical world as a parent has been intense. For the most part though my interactions with things like this are a handful of years in the past. The terms etc become fuzzy... When I "refreshed" my knowledge of ABA though, I scared the heck outta my cats hollering "AAAHHH! THIS!" I proceeded to stomp and anger-mutter for a few... I have my own "history" with this... this philosophy. 😤 I was ALL in on this at first. In my generation it was ALL about masking, but it wasn't known as that. It was "navigating" or "coping"... and generally fit the ABA template. Of couse, my only understanding of ASD was my neighbor who was non-verbal etc. Kids like me just got all the "underachieving weirdo" labels and guilt and pressure - but "that was ✨️motivating✨️" 🙄😡. So then, in my kids' school, it seemed absolutely sensible to me to engage and follow all the "ABA stuff"... Until finally, FINALLY I started to see that my child was being DAMAGED, and NOT HELPED! I grappled with all that this included, and ultimately accepted that 1) My kiddo may need certain aids and supports all their life - and THAT'S OK! 2) I was constantly failing to truly accept my child as whole and complete and worthy AS IS - going around with "explanations" (read: EXCUSES 😢) at the tip of my lips, even when other parents found no fault... I was projecting SHAME! I was ashamed and embarrassed, which is simply shameful of ME.... and 3) I learned the term "masking". I realized that was what I was shoving on my kids, and only recently am actually starting to realize the ways it's damaged ME. After this paradigm shift of mine, y'know what happend? My eldest began to THRIVE! FREAKIN *THRIVE!!!* Being actually and truly accepted and encouraged as their own self, with their own unique beauty and skills highlighted and supported, with the unconditional love all kids deserve, and genuine pride and support that child had earned so very many times over, THIS was the foundation my child had been lacking!! (Bawling break here.... 😭 I did so much wrong by trying to do right, but needed first to listen to and learn and trust MY OWN CHILD first 😫😭😫😭😫😭😫) I'd THOUGHT I was "doing right" by my kid, but was only hammering them with all their supposed "wrongs" - AND I WAS WRONG!! 😢 I'd always been a parent that school personnel either hated or loved because I wouldn't ever do "easy" if it wasn't RIGHT. NOW though.... I really had to battle for what would actually be in my child's best interest. This was oftentimes NOT in the "best interest" of administration, and I didn't give a damn! ABA SUCKS! It is MASKING - PURE AND SIMPLE! IF people want to continue to advocate for it on the grounds of how it's changed and grown to "be better" - FINE! Then call it something else! Because it will HAVE TO CHANGE SO MUCH as to be something completely different, before I will even consider it a viable tool for helping neuro-spicy individuals!! One of the ways ALL KIDS are the SAME? THEY GET SOLD SHORT! Kids WANT to "be good" - DESPERATELY! So LISTEN TO YOUR CHILDREN - PLEASE PLEASE!!!! Each child is unique. Every child will only benefit from being allowed to be their own selves, and being supported as such! My children will live their own adventures as their own selves. It is my own honor to be allowed to learn who they are as they themselves explore, discover, and grow their own selves! Learning how to deal with the world from there is a challenge for ALL, and those who rise best to that challenge do not do so by masking! 😤😤😤😤😤😤😤 LONG rant. Sorry. 😅 I'm rather triggered and empassioned, I guess 😳🥲 Take care. Thank you for calling this out.
Oh, much more brief - "...title is bad and you should feel bad." This wording rings a bell. You wouldn't happen to be familiar with "Beau/Belle ofnthe Fifth Column"? I'm not sure if that style of wording started there or elsewhere, but that's where I've heard it. 😊 Just curious. Agapé 303 😉
@KOKO-uu7yd it's something that Zoidberg says in Futurama. i stopped watching Beau when his criminal history was revealed (human trafficking/exploiting immigrant labor). I'm also gonna take some extra time to read your first comment to make sure I understand your point of view. As for me, I feel ABA therapy is good as long as it's a good place, same as daycare. My child has autism (level 3), and ABA has helped her communicate wants and needs, and that's allowed her to have an easier time with life. I think ABA can be good therapy. Obviously that Rutledge place in NJ is monstrous and abhorrent, and therapies that include punishment should not exist. I hope this convo doesn't come off the wrong way.
@KOKO-uu7yd ABA therapy is good or bad, the same way school or daycare curricula can be good or bad. I have heard the stories of how bad ABA can be, but after observing the ABA therapy place my child goes to, i can say for sure that this place and the way they do ABA is good. It basically functions as a one on one kindergarten where the teachers/therapist are trained to communicate with and aid the kids with special needs. I also don't appreciate some of the language you used in your comment. The term "neuro-spicy" comes across as self stereotyping and erases cases of children who are more severely affected by autistic conditions. It comes out of a reaction to the term "mildly neuro-divergent" or "neuro-divergent, mild". Meaning that someone with that diagnosis has autism, but their symptoms are not as severe as other cases. To refer to oneself as neuro-spicy is erasing away the more severe cases of kids with autism. Kids who can't speak for themselves because their communication is so affected. I'm sorry you have felt the shame that you expressed. No one deserves that, even if it comes from within. I understand how that feels completely. That feeling of "bigots of low expectations" towards one's child is...terrible. I felt it, and you seemed to as well. I'm sorry the world has made it so hard to feel OK with how our kids are. Just know that other people feel like you and understand what you have been through. However, don't let that color the way you see helpful therapies like ABA or OT, ST, PT, and others. Peace, love, and understanding
@ixdrums Thank you. I've actually never used the term "neuro-spicy" myself before, just been hearing it a lot. I'm not wrapping my head around your take on it yet, but I WILL BE not using it while I try to learn more. My whole goal is to NOT promote negative crud. I've found myself wishing some terms remained as a readily available quick way to identify the degrees of ASD, since my eldest's challenges would be termed "mild" yet the problems they have caused are and can be life altering. It's complicated, yet terms help with "snapshots" and getting a foundation for deeper understanding (as long as those terms are a START not an END of someone's understanding, which I feel so many try to control for others but we can't) Anyway, I've not the time to really make sure I'm making sense, but I don't want to NOT respond. Please excuse any eye-rollingly ridiculous confusing convolutions 🥲 As for my own experience with ADA - I'm VERY worked up by it, but I do believe what you and your child are experiencing is VERY GOOD. I just really wish there was that "quick snapshot" way of differentiating between the experience of what it sounds like it CAN be / has become, and what I've experienced. The programs I've experienced it through were not just "unfortunate individuals with an inaccurate understanding" - or at least that's not how it was presented. This was the ENTIRE program, accross a large urban school district and even neighboring programs. That's why I sincerely wish for just a different name for the "NEW" stuff. Tbh though, I can't really speak with any authority, and I need to remember that. Also, I certainly can't dictate terms used 😆😅😅 So, if ADA evolves and stabilizes into something closer to your own experience? AWESOME! I'm just nervous as a cat about to kitten for those who might THINK a program is like yours, and then get what my own family experienced for so many damaging years. I shudder for the children still stuck there 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 I'm really lost though on what you were saying about the term "neuro-spicy"?? Can you point me to any videos or articles to maybe better understand? Terms will keep evolving etc, and in the goal of actually communicating with the weird-wide variety of humans I try to keep up and keep humor with compassion. I don't like that I'm so NOT understanding what you've said, as I feel it's pretty important...😢 Thank you
Imagine someone scratching their nails on a chalkboard. Feel that frisson in your teeth or going down your back? There. Sound-touch synesthesia in action.
Weirdly enough, I don't get that reaction with the nails on blackboard thing. It's unpleasant, but the tone that really bugs me is at a different pitch. I've always wondered if it has something to do with my hearing impairment.
@@eliscanfield3913 Just curious: is it at a higher pitch or lower pitch that bothers you? By the way, the chalkboard scratch has a weird synesthetic effect on me: it triggers a tickle response at the base of my neck and travels down my spine.
I have always subconsciously assigned an inherent color to numbers, letters of the alphabet, and some words. For numbers, the digits 1, 4, and 7 are green; 2, 5, and 8 are blue; and 3, 6 and 9 are red (0 has no color). For letters, B, N, P, and R are red; C, G, I, O, and Q are green; D, E, and F are orange/yellow, U is dark blue, V is purple, and other letters really don't have a color. Songs can also have colors of a sort; I generally think of songs in the key of D as brown, while songs in G are green. I think Billy Joel similarly assigns colors to different keys in fact.
Philosophers in the phenomenological tradition have been making this argument for a while. Merleau-Pontie, for instance, thought it was more or less fundamental to all experience. There’s a book called “The Spell of the Sensuous” by David Abram that explores perception and ecology pretty fascinatingly
Well, nobody expects anyone to overlook anything when they're deciding how to mass-produce food. So those clickbait scientific journal articles about tactile-taste crossmodal interaction get a lot of gravity, but we need to remember that the people who are best-suited to inform others about how to improve mass-produced food have been involved in food factories for quite a while (as the owners). This is why that article has been cited 100 times: everyone is hopping on the bandwagon because they aren't sure whether different people see the same colors as each other, or if the colors are different for different people. (in retrospect, I guess we could have called our elementary school teacher's little "paradox" about "not being able to know" what colors look like to others an ancient anti-Mendelian roar) It doesn't really matter what kind of topical nonsense a scientist is going to force everyone to watch about food. He's certainly never experimented with food in his own home. He's just trying to walk away thinking he's "won" in his solo fight against "greedy people" (or, to be more accurate, "his solo attempt to clean up after regrettable lapses in judgement on behalf of appellate court judges and other such influential people"). Not that anyone ever minded if he were to win. His feelings are just kind of "a tree falling in the forest with no one to hear it", in the end. What was the point of insisting on being critical THAT MUCH? There was no point at all. How can we reach that kid, and make sure he knows what witness protection programs are? How can we tell him that the invention and universal spread of the spoken word was a revolution against an indistinct "absolute monarchy" which it appears that other animals have continued to be governed under, so that the community of the future would be able to hold trials and appeals rather than for the "monarch" to be relied on for more things than he'd ever end up doing, and then it would be possible to become devoted to furthering the field of medicine? Would HE say that perhaps before the first spoken word, the other animals ALSO had a completely different type of community structure? How can we document all of his stances on everything? Should we start off by forcing him to become a forensic scientist?
I seem to have a weird form that never gets mentioned whenever the topic comes up. I hear sight. Things like moving objects and flashing lights make an array of muted thuds, blips, groans, and creaks in my mind. Some animated pixel art can make incredible music loops.
You can ignore the bit in the video where she gives an opinion on the color of math. This was meant as a sort of joke, which she annoyingly peppers throughout. It's just not obvious they're meant to be funny because they fall so flat. You can also ignore numerous copycat commenters who also lack a sense of humor.
@@trustthesauce I considered that possibility, but if a comment that begins "I have synesthesia" is a joke then the author needs to know it's overstepping.
The one with the square of gray that the subjects adjusted color on reminded me of a friend long ago who worked for the U.S. D.o.T. who was doing tests that looked a little like that (but it was a square of one color on a background of another color). He was working on a conjecture that people with one kind of color-blindness (say Red/Green, which both he and I had a little bit, which means less sensitivity to subtle changes in those hues in a mix) were actually more perceptive of other color differences (and he and I both agreed that we thought we could see more distinction in Blues and Yellows). He was doing this research for D.o.T. for possible specs for stop lights (in addition to his slightly personal interest). I volunteered to be a subject, but unfortunately since we knew each other he suspected there might be some bias, so I just advised him a bit on the software for managing the massive data collection.
As a side note, "we all have X" is one of the most insulting things you can say to someone who has a troublesome diagnosis/condition. I've had *clinicians* say "well, don't we all have a little PTSD" in response to my mention of the PTSD I had from a 3-year traumatic and violent experience.
hugs. Yeah, I recently met a guy who clocked my 11yo as autistic (kiddo was pretending our shopping cart was a train, which is _not_ typical at his age.) He said he was autistic over philosophy & I'm wondering if he meant that in the "fascinated in the neurotypical way" or the "actually autistic & philosophy's my special interest" way
@@eliscanfield3913 I can see either one. I'm autistic as in I have Autism Spectrum Disorder. It would be reasonable for someone to explain my special interests as me being autistic about maps. It's also not a stretch to explain my difficulties with sensory input as being autistic about varied noise, or wearing only cotton against my skin. With those last two, someone who isn't autistic may use the term to simply refer to personal idiosyncrasies like those I experience.
I make pictures out of plastic rhinestones. I can feel a difference in texture between the different colors. For example, black feels a little more grippy than white. Blue is soft, grey is like plastic paper, and orange is rough. I can't identify the shades by touch alone yet, but I can still feel the difference even with my eyes closed.
I have a hypothesis that our color-subject associations are actually products of common trends in textbook cover design. Science textbooks are overwhelmingly green; English textbooks are often yellow or another bright color. My math textbooks were blue and so were the notebooks.
Interesting thought. The real question then is why are the textbooks predominantly those colours? Is there a broader cultural or perceptual association underlying these trends? Overall there seems to be a pattern of cool tones for math and science, and warm tones for social sciences and humanities, maybe because math and science are perceived as 'cool and analytical' while the social sciences/humanities are about more about emotion and interpersonal connection and perhaps therefore 'warmth'. Blue is an interesting one because it also relates to intangibility (the sky/heavens) and math is often seen as intangible. Green as many have pointed out is coded to the natural world. The graphic designers making textbooks are unlikely to have come up with a trend completely arbitrarily, instead I think they are at some level using existing colour symbolism.
Hahahaha when you said cereal cutting the roof of your mouth it was Captain Crunch that immediately sprang to mind! Lol. I see with my hands. Which definitely was something I had to learn because I remember being at a birthday party when I was 5 or 6 and the game was you had to put your hand in a paper bag and then say what the object was and I was the only kid who couldn't do it. I was usually ahead of the class so being dumb in this really stood out for me and spurred me to learn. Then when I was 12 I lost my vision almost entirely and it happened within the span of a few weeks(after a head injury, exact mechanism unknown). I can 'see' so much better with my hands than my eyes! I don't do braille, I'm not quite that blind and can still read my computer screen, but for anything else - whether it's separating two legos or doing first aid on myself, it's my hands that see for me. I have other crossovers that have always been with me - like numbers and letters having genders and colours or time occurring on a series of coloured wheels(I learned about analogue clocks late so the wheels are not due to visualizing a clock in my case). These seem to be a part of my autism and, I believe, are implicated in my photographic memory. But I'm certain the seeing through touch is an adaptation and it makes me wonder what else we could be training ourselves to experience and where would doing so create an advantage or increase enjoyment.
One of the best examples I saw in a documentary was chefs being unable to correctly identify tastes of fruit/berry drinks being artificially colored. Professionals with years of experience. There is a very strong connection between sight, smell and taste in a lot of people.
I used to sell handmade soap. Vanilla fragrances turn brown, so any soap with even a little vanilla in the scent blend will turn brown, and if there's a lot of vanilla, it turns almost chocolate brown. Invariably, people would smell those bars as being chocolate, rather than vanilla. This includes scents like cinnamon roll, where the primary scent is cinnamon. Things like hazelnut coffee scent would smell like hazelnut chocolate unless I told them it was coffee-scented. Vanilla is in a LOT of fragrances that you don't even realize, especially things like fragrances to replicate baked goods or sweets, so this was a regular occurrence.
8:00 Like cozy on the white eggshell coloured couch where you just spilled black coffee all over...had a bad time cleaning it up and finally get to have your Panettone in piece 😊😅
The rough texture causes micro abrasions on the tongue and mouth that then leads to a more jolting affect from the-sour. While the smooth texture leaves the surfaces unabraided, so more sweet is registered.
I have spatial sequence synesthesia, where sequences like numbers, letters, dates, time, etc. are visualized in 3D spaces. Always been curious to know how common that is.
I had an unpleasant house fire many years ago; for a few years after that- I would smell smoke whenever I was in or near anxiety attack or panic attack territory.
There's a significant flaw in the study that used the coarse vs fine sugar and determined that a fine texture results in a higher perception of sweet. Since they used sugar as their source of sweetness, the finer texture is going to dissolve more easily, resulting in a stronger sweet taste, even if they have a similar mass of sugar present. Coarser sugar means less sugar contacts the taste receptors regardless of how much overall sugar is there. As it is, all they really determined is that food containing sugar delivered in a form that's easier to dissolve tastes sweeter. If they want to establish the effect of texture on taste, they really need a non-flavored method of affecting texture.
Just add some microplastics 😋
I was thinking about that while the texture experiment was being talked about.
Came looking for that- glad it's the first comment at the moment. I'd think they could use something else to make it grainy
Yep, that was the one I was immediately skeptical about. They should have kept the sugar blend the same and used something else to affect texture (like wafers) if they wanted to truly test sweetness perception. I immediately thought of coarse vs fine salt
It's more about salivary amylase and transformation of sucrose (which is barely sweet, and tastes "vaguely fruity" rather than sweet) into glucose (which tastes like invert syrup). The receptor itself is more responsive to glucose. If it has a rough texture and it's not because of sugar crystals, participants will just outright HATE it. Are you kidding me? What you want is to add more sugar in the rough recipe to compensate for how poorly dissolved it is. In which case, it would strictly NOT be a matter of principle, and it would be done just because it's obviously the thing to do.
"We played holiday music and asked them to rate the taste of the food. Overwhelmingly people rated food as having had tasted better, with the exception of one group of outliers who were convinced that the food was rotten; all of whom worked retail"
😂💯
You met my sister!
Sounds about right, as a person who has worked retail.
@TheChosenOne-l6c I worked retail for years, and could not manage to "Do" Christmas until I'd been OUT for MANY years, AND had a child to decorate for and with 😅
Retail has many horrors. Pulling an "all nighter" to get Christmas ornaments etc displayed in early Sept is just one, but it is a POWERFUL one. We'd actually SELL DVD's of the Christmas music we'd play on loop too. 😅
I worked retail for the holidays specifically and my apparent ability to tune out my hearing helped significantly in not getting annoyed at the music. Because most of the time I couldn’t even hear the music over the customers and other workers talking to me and my own inner chaotic music. Pretty much only songs I actually enjoyed made it through, which is crazy, even to me who experienced it.
One weird symptom of depression is that it can actually make your senses feel dulled. I've heard people say colors and music feel more vivid after recovering from severe depressive episodes. Personally, I've had really bad mental health days where i genuinely thought I had caught covid because the taste and smell of my food was so different. Makes sense, if mood and pleasure can affect our senses like that.
That's really interesting. I have also wondered if COVID or Long Covid were messing with me again. I can smell next to nothing right now. And I am also feeling depressed because my fiance is thousands of miles away and probably will be for a while.
I made my own comment just before which kinda relates to this, but I suffer severe sensory problems after being given psych meds for this sort of thing due to misdiagnosis of depression and a bunch of other stuff. They have altered my brain in extremely debilitating and bizarre ways. Like sound and light mixing, perceptional distortion and hallucinations, phantom pains and sensations that I can somewhat control through thought.
I have lots of visual/perception issues and I see colours and lights that no one else can. Some of the distortions I have control over and I have no idea why or how. I also have control over certain autonomic processed.
I had my first migraine in 2022 that sent me to ER from all this and not only did I loose vision, I experienced the visual auras and the colours in them were hyper saturated. So I have experienced what they call hyper colours where they are saturated beyond 100%. After the blindness recover, the hyper saturation for my normal vision persisted for hours.
anhedonia like stuff yea
I had a depressive episode in very early 2021, when I was in college and under pretty tight covid restrictions. I didn't sleep well or leave my room to get food for a couple of days, so I was subsisting on whatever snacks I had and tea. On the third or fourth day of this, I felt absolutely awful and my tea didn't taste like it usually did, so told my friend that I thought I had covid. He realized that he hadn't seen me in a couple of days (we often went to pick up food together even though we had to eat in our rooms) and went to get me some real food. Lo and behold, I felt much better once I had eaten some vegetables and protein, and I did not in fact have covid.
The brain is so interestingly complex…
I’m not sure these are really examples of synesthesia. One of the best representations of synesthesia I’ve ever seen is in the movie Ratatouille, when Remy hears music and sees color explosions when he eats. It’s not just one sense influencing another, it’s one sense activating another. The food didn’t make the music or colors more intense or more pleasant, it created the colors and music altogether.
I agree with you as someone who has the diagnosis these are not forms of synesthesia.
thanks for saying this! I was thinking about how the video just talks about basic associations and not synesthesia.
Sounds make me see colors and feel textures. When I make songs, I "paint" with colors and textures which would look good together on canvas.
Yeah. I have number-color synesthesia (two is bottle green, four is cerulean, etc.) as well as numero-spatial synesthesia (numbers, including time, exist in space, so I could give you walking directions to the 18th century), and this is ... related, but not quite the same.
The video does not claim that the examples are synesthesia but like synesthesia. They even just say "kinda", which implies they know that's stretching things.
Edit: My ex has synesthesia and saw colours when hearing sounds and colours produced sounds. Varying intensity with different colours/sounds.
4:18 More surface area on ground sugar so it dissolves faster and tastes sweeter than coarse sugar.
Certain flavors are "warm" or "cold" and it has nothing to do with the temperature of the food itself. You could give me a burning hot cucumber and I'd still brain it as cold.
Makes sense how humans came up with the four humors system like this, which labels pretty much every food as inherently hot or cold and dry or wet.
“Brain it” love it
Yet I am positive if you grew up with cucumbers burning you all the time, and fire was green. You would associate that with hot.
That is why I think this study is lame. How do we test what is association, and what is hard wired. I feel like synesthesia is definitely hard wired.
I remember the guy who hated Derek. Said it tasted like ear wax. I wonder if he was bullied or something by a Derek.
I'm pretty sure you'd "brain" a burning hot cucumber as mush... The flavor (or lack thereof) of a cucumber is akin to plain water, anyway.
Shout out to the stock video guy at 6:40 cutting a ciabatta sandwich with a butter knife and fork
Well, fiddling around with a butter knife and fork: he kinda switches hands like "What am I supposed to do with these?"
Still better than that one stock photo of that girl holding a soldering iron wrong
Lmao I wouldn’t have noticed it since I’m watching on my phone, but since I read your comment, I had to look! 😅
I saw this comment pop up when I got to that part of the vid, and I was like "isn't that a potato?" But then I went back and looked across the table. 😂😂 I've definitely cut sandwiches in half with a butter knife before, but the fork is new!😅
Yesterday I watched a video about the Baltic Sea which had a photo of golden raisins when they were talking about fossilised resin aka amber.
My sister "tastes" color: sweet, sour, salted, bland. She once said "I can't stand [brother], living room color, it makes me nauseous as it tastes too sweet." She is awesome as decoding paint colors.
Could also be expectations and how people select something when given an ambiguous question like pick what this scent smells like. We know candy canes are red and peppermint. We associate some things with others because people portray them like that. A gross smell is green or yellow in cartoons. Bile, sulfur and some sickly stool is similar in color. We said yes this color is stinky. It might be less synesthesia and more shared experience influencing what we pick.
entirely. we are, in a large way, taught how to understand what we experience and how we experience our senses can fluctuate depending on other external stimuli. so yea it’s not synesthesia lol
It’s called ideasthesia-that used to be my tumblr blog name. It’s why people generally think that boba sounds round and kiki sounds pointy
Boba feels like snot
Except that one time it was a fly! Thank goodness I didn’t bite down
bro literally just LOOK at those words again and tell me why that might be...
@@grizzlyalmighty2 it's a typo, the study is on the words "bouba" and "kiki" which are not real words, yet the majority of people associated roundness with "bouba" and sharpness with "kiki"
@@jonaut5705I think they meant that the bouba letters are round and kiki is pointy
@@AnimeFan-wd5pqbut that happened in many languages, not just english
This is cool! I'm someone who actually has synaesthesia in the traditional sense (some examples: 0:15 "Phillip" is a pink name with some gold-yellow spots/highlights; Adenosine, Thymine, Guanine, and Cytosine of DNA are red with some orange, yellow-orange with some light green, green, and light blue respectively, with the dominant colours being Red, Yellow, Green, and Blue). Synaesthesia also runs in families in my experience, my mother and I both have it (myself to a greater extent) but my dad doesn't. My mother and I are both also neurodivergent (ADHD and Asperger's/ASD), but I seem to have more symptoms/be slightly further "on the spectrum". Also, it might be a case of like attracting like but several of my friends who are also on the spectrum also experience synaesthesia of various senses. I suspect that the hyperconnected nervous systems of people with ASD and ADHD causes their brains to be "cross-wired" and process sensory information in multiple areas of the brain.
I have Asperger and ADHD but I do not have that sensation/experience. The only thing that maybe is a bit different is that I have a very good nose, I smell things other people do not smell until they are very close to the source. I also can smell if something tastes good . I can not split taste from smell. They are one. If it does not smell nice I do not like the taste.I never have to taste if I like something. They are so strong coupled that I truly can not eat things that smell not nice. It goes so far that I can smell if the milk or meat will be bad over 2 days while everybody else think it is still good. There is no sharp good/bad smell. But it is hard to explain.
I have ASD and I can smell images. It seems rather common to have synesthesia with neurodivergency in general.
I read a study that says we have longer neurons
I'm AuDHD, and with my auditory synaesthesia, it's really clear that my brain was trying to work around my auditory processing disorder. I have the most extreme sensations tied to music that would have been played for me a lot as a baby, or to other very complex, overwhelming sounds.
(I do have a couple really funny ones. Since I trigger most strongly to music, music that doesn't associate at all feels really off to me, usually very simple stuff like elevator music or low-fi...or St Anger. Which makes a lot of metalheads in my life laugh, and usually forgive me for asking them to avoid certain vocalists around me.)
Rates of synaesthesia in Autistic Individuals is around 18.9% vs Non-Autistic being 7.2%
A question about the taste one. wouldn't the smaller sugar grains dissolve quicker in your mouth and thus taste sweeter than the bigger rougher sugar grains?
Yes, there's a popular comment here where several people see it this way.
No, your sense of taste is accompanied by feeling. You dont eat too many painful sweets, but spicy foods are generally rated based on pain. More pain = spicier food, sweet is generally coupled with soft or smooth (harder cookies dont taste as sweet as soft cookies). Do you think sugar or caramel is sweeter, most would probably say caramel but caramel is characterized by a polymer reaction called Malliard reaction. PH affects taste as well, which is why your taste sour and bitter so strongly cause a very sharp feeling on the tongue.
My synesthesia is linguistic: I have the continuous voice dialogue going on in my head, but there's also a simultaneous music dialogue paralleling the voice. While looking at a painting, the verbal voice in my head might say "Wow, that's beautiful!", and at the same time, the non-verbal music voice might say "Da da da da dahh." This happens with any silent, read or spoken verbal sounds, meaning that I can hear the music of people, places, things, ideas, feelings, etc. If I have access to a music keyboard, I can share those musical "thoughts" with others.
This is awesome, I'd love to hear your music.
I have the same exact opposite synesthesia, I can see colors/shapes/places/stuff in sound/music. One time I even recognized on a painting a very similar view to what I see with a song
You should upload videos of your music!
I have a form of synethesia myself.
Sensations inside my nose get translated to scents. If it's hot out, I can smell heat. Likewise with cold. And if I get bopped hard enough on the nose, the scent of pain is sharp and unmistakable.
I can also _taste_ temperatures (though this might be cross-modal).
It's rather annoying at times, though (for example, the taste of heat clashes _horribly_ with the taste of pepperoni, so for me pepperoni pizza is disgusting when hot, and delicious when cold).
I can smell heat and cold. Had no idea that wasn’t normal😂
What does pain smell like? How would you describe it?
@@ewetn1sharply acidic, for me
"I'm looking at you Cap'n Crunch." Never have I felt more validated.
IKR?
TRUTH! Just like that chapter in Cryptonomicon 😁
Not terribly surprised. Right up there with food tasting better in good company. We are highly social animals so all of our senses contribute to our experience of the world-- the brain being the engine that facilitates it.
It doesn't taste better you report that it taste better!
Not just taste, but metabolism too.
Nah bro... food definitely tastes best in total seclusion.
SECRET EATING
I remember Purple Heinz ketchup. People couldn't adjust the color VS flavor and it tanked.
In high school we considered purple a flavor: it was only found in those frozen tubes of sugar water dreck.
God, why did our parents let us eat all that trash?
The purple Heinz was ABSOLUTELY a different flavor. I did several blind tests (I’m a big ketchup guy), and it wasn’t that similar. Being an inferior product is why it tanked
@@SphericaICow I bet in the end it was less sugary KEKW Ketchup is mainly composed of sugar & water
And here I thought it failed because all the laundry-doing parents took one look at it, knew it'd stain, and said "Nope."
That would be wild considering the US has all kinds of crazy colored food like their „normal“ Fanta looks absolutely unnatural and weird. Yet people drink that 😅
Why would they be confused be unnatural looking ketchup?
3:30 this is one of the fundamental ideas of sound design in entertainment like movies and video games. You can't feel anything on screen so the sounds have to carry the weight of communicating what things feel like: if the ground feels gravely or grassy, or the object is made of wood or stone or sand or if it's hollow or full of water. This also means badly-designed sounds can inexplicably make the game feel icky or disconnected. Some people can be more sensitive to the effect than others but well-designed sounds benefits most hearing people.
If I'm trying to go to sleep and something very loud happens, it's almost like I get flashbanged.
Exploding head syndrome is a real thing. I only dealt with it depending on what meds I was on at the time.
It doesn't seem much like synaesthesia and more like contextual enhancement of sensory perception.
I found a relatively low dose of salvia divinorum extract gave me really intense synesthesia years ago when I was messing around. It was reliable and repeatable, but the overall experience was so unpleasant I can't imagine anybody would do it more than a couple times. It also came along with hypersensitive nipples that made wearing a shirt unbearable, intense cold sweating, and a strange awareness of my skeleton making me feel almost like a marionette puppet. It did also give sounds extremely distinctive physical sensations like hard edges, sharp corners, abrasive surfaces, and flowing waves as well as something that's almost color but not quite.
(I was young and I wanted to try experimenting with a psychedelic that was relatively non-dangerous, so I tried it at several different dosages with experiences ranging from having a 5 minute trip where I watched our reality stop existing as an out-of-sync tongue in an infinite wall of wagging tongues fell back into sync, to feeling kinda cold and uncomfortable with some synesthesia that I would say is comparable to a 2-beer buzz but cold and unpleasant)
That sounds like my experiences with LSD. The worst time was when I puked on it, because I was so hyper aware of every sensation in my body.
Can confirm that Salvia has some synesthesia-like effects
Or maybe not quite synesthesia, but I certainly had experiences where the input on one sense would inform hallucinations in one or more other senses. Very strange stuff.
That’s literally documented symptom of psychedelics, everybody who’s done any kind of them at a high enough dose encountered the same in some way. As a shroom and LSD user back during covid
Wendy Carlos released an electronic music album named “Sonic Seasonings” back in the 1970’s
Interesting at 6:45
For all my life, whenever I wanted to take in a taste very intensely or concentrate on it, I have been closing my eyes and sometimes even asking people around me to stop talking for a moment, so I can taste better. And it works for me. Now, did that knowledge tell me any earlier than while watching that video, that this may be a VERY good reason not to watch videos while eating for 1) I may enjoy my meals way more when not bombarded with lots of other sensory input at the same time and 2) maybe I would even have an easier time to losing weight (which my health desperately demands) since I may enjoy smaller portions without sensory overload more than my now bigger portions with sensory overload?
Embarrassingly, I only now realised that.
Will try that out. Thanks, SciShow!
Bonus fact: I also close my eyes when I want to hear better or experience touch, like a massage or cuddling, more strongly and it feels like it works as well. As if freeing some RAM on my system allows the remaining senses to use more of it.
I'd be interested to see a study of how autism might affect the taste of different textured foods
Ps. English is blue
As well as if there's any evidence of a causal link between certain neurotypes and synesthesia. I'm autistic and I perceive moving 3D models whenever I think of numbers, which is apparently a rarer variation.
english is 100% blue
agreed
English is green for me.
I had a certain point in life where I was starting to associate various video games with very specific smells each for some reason; I couldn't tell you what those smells were like, and the associations slowly faded away after a while, but I can tell you for a fact it was definitely not my sweat. 😐
My mother had synesthesia, but it wasn’t a well known, benign occurrence back a long time ago. Back in the 1970s, my mother complained to her family doctor about an intense pain in the back of her neck. When he asked her to describe the pain, she told him that it was more of a black colored pain, as opposed to the milder green colored pain that was in her elbow. He diagnosed her as having schizophrenia based on her as having or correlating pain with colors.
Advertisers have known this for decades. Note all the slinky saxophone music in chocolate adverts. Amplified sounds of the CRUNCH in cereal adverts etc. Sounds of fat sizzling even when the food shown isn't very fatty.
I think I kinda have synesthesia because some voices of those person I know. I can feel the shape(or sometimes I can see it but not in my eyes) of their voices. That's why even i'm in the crowd, I can notice them immediately.
Gonna have to try that soothing music trick with morning coffee.
I havent watched the full video yet, but I always thought of synesthesia as a sort of superpower:
Think of a sheet of paper FILLED with very tiny 5's, everywhere just a million 5's in a tiny font. Somehwhere on that page you put a couple 2's in the same sized font. To our mundane senses it would take a long long time to scope out the hidden 2's. To someone with colour-number synesthesia, they would see a sea of red, with two very clear blue dots for example. It would be immediate, they wouldn't even have to "look" for it. Right from the very moment they looked at the page, they would already _know_ where the 2's are.
Imagine how many unique scenarios and advantages could arise from the _massive_ pool of potential sensory combinations and overlap from synesthesia!
There is some potential for having something like your sense of memory and sense of distance get overlapped, so that the further back a memory is, the "further away" that memory would physically feel, IIRC there have been recorded and/or reported cases of this that has been attributed to so called "total recall" or Eidetic memory.
The possibilities are endless! Some musicians have tone-colour synesthesia and can perfectly remember any song from a single listen, and often times are able to actually "extrapolate" from only hearing a short clip of the music, because in their mind it forms a cohesive part of a colourful arrangement or image or some such. There's a _logic_ to the sense of colour, a sense of _knowing_ (similar to the 2's and 5's, they don't have to "think" about it) and so it's easy for them to *fairly* accurately just play the rest of the song despite having never heard that part of the song!
The list goes on and on! If this intrigues you, I highly recommend looking more into synesthesia. It's magical! 😁 I whole-heartedly believe synesthesiacs are the next stage in human evolution.
There's also the reality and potential of induced synesthesia! There are recorded cases of people having something like a brain trauma, or due to a disease their brain is affected in some way, or something else along those general lines, just spontaneously developing synesthesia! So in theory we may be capable of selectively inducing synesthesia medically!! There's so much potential!!
-Sorry just to add one more at the end here: There's also a famous chef who has touch-taste synesthesia and he creates dishes that "feel" nice to him and they're often wild combinations of ingredients that nobody had ever tried before, but because he knew the "physical texture" was cohesive and made sense, that the dish would turn out in a favorable way. I remember hearing him describe mint as a cold glass pillar with water smoothly flowing down the entire surface, and in a weird way, I can kind of see how that would be the case!
Sorry 🙇 🙏 Hahah I'm sure you can tell I'm a bit of a synesthesia fan boy, thank you for coming to my Ted Talk! 😅
Yeah sure, it's all nice when a fruit shake tastes chocolate despite having none because of the color but, then you end up with situations where I hate Carmel because it's color's flavor clashes with the actual flavor.
Similarly, having too noisy (but not commiting to rainbow overload) of a color palette or too many people's voices/flavors/colors at the same time causes me to be overstimulated
Also synesthesia isn't magic. Pretty sure plenty of people without synesthesia have perfect pitch and the like. Sometimes the models we use allow us to process information more efficiently but, that shouldn't be unique to synesthesia, plenty of other people still have better information processing models than us. otherwise my sense that strategic options are a physical space would make me a grandmaster at chess and stuff but I'm sure plenty of of the pros don't share that sense but still have a more efficient model for processing potential moves
Ok, rant over. It's a different experience not a better one is what I'm getting at
A superpower! :D I have synaesthesia, my visuals are generally in my mind's eye, so I don't tend to literally see 2s and 5s like how you describe, though I am very good at picking out details, and I can taste and smell things if I let myself (I tend to "block out" the extrasensory perception because it's like a deeper level of interfacing with a given stimulus, and I don't want to know more about a lot of things. I can taste and smell photographs if I let myself. My profile for example picture tastes bright, but of course the "taste" is also processed as colour for me, which is yellow-gold with pink). Just listening to a song without letting myself see/smell/taste it is very different from actually letting myself experience it, the latter can affect me very deeply. I don't listen to a lot of music because a lot of it does not benefit my health. I do think that everyone probably has ESP/synaesthesia to an extent. I can be really sensitive to the "vibe" and energy of a space, but even someone with less practice can tell when a place is creepy or when it's happy, bright, and comfortable.
I'm also a musician, and I totally agree with music being colours and light (technically being a rendering/transcription of the "energy" of the piece). Probably related, playing instruments off the cuff is very easy for me and I can hear the next notes in my head and just intuitively know how the song goes. I also tend to be very creative in the kitchen and make "weird" combinations of ingredients that end up tasting awesome. It's fun to hear about other people with similar life experiences, thank you for sharing.
It's very sweet that you call us the next stage of evolution but I will note that it does make existing in the modern day challenging at times... I suspect that the neurological basis for synaesthesia is a hyperconnected brain, so information is processed in a lot of places at once rather than just the regular spots (a neurological trait associated with Asperger's/ASD), meaning that I can also experience sensory overload or "shutdown" (including making speech very difficult or even very nearly impossible) if I am overstimulated or feel overwhelmed emotionally. I don't watch a lot of TV or movies because of this. Once, someone in the same room as me was watching a documentary about the Arctic or Antarctic that talked about people dying from the cold, I had to leave the room and cry and felt upset for the rest of the night. I still feel teary thinking about it. I carry earplugs with me everywhere to block out some of the stimuli of the everyday. I can't watch very fast-paced movies/TV or play very fast video games because I get overwhelmed with all of the information and I get headaches/nausea/dizziness/disorientation, and seeing people in pain or injured is extremely disturbing for me to see. I really can't stand horror, either. A world of only synaesthetes/people with more developed ESP would look very different from the one we have today. Some people probably don't get so easily overwhelmed or are able to choose to block out more information/refuse to process it on multiple "channels", but generally, people I know with synaesthesia tend to be highly sensitive.
Synesthesia comes at different levels of intensity. Only a minority of people with synesthesia actually see the color out there in the world the way you describe. For most synesthetes the number 2 is (for example) blue in their mind, and the number 5 red (these are my colors!), but 2s and 5s on a page are just whatever color they are printed in. I think it would be so cool to have such strong synesthesia that it painted over the world like that!
Some things I watch have flavors. They're not necessarily a food flavor but they're a flavor. If they're a really delicious flavor, my mouth will water and I will want more; but it's almost impossible to find something else with the same or similar flavor. So I end up watching the same thing over and over and over until I can escape the desire to 'consume' that flavor. I don't know if it's a kind of synesthesia, but I am AuDHD so my brain does things.
I did go to uni with a "common" type synethetic. She saw sounds as colors and made some really beautiful paintings.
I have ASD and ADHD as well, and I (as well as my mother) am also a synaesthete. My theory is that the hyperconnected brains of people with ASD and ADHD causes information to be processed in multiple areas of the brain that they "normally" wouldn't, causing additional sensory experiences to be "output" from the same information. And yes, what you describe is a form of synaesthesia. If an input creates an additional output that it "should" not directly cause, it's synaesthesia. Someone I know who is also synaesthetic also tastes things.
"I'm looking at you, Captain Crunch." deserves an Emmy nomination 😂
No one believes me that cool toned lavender tastes like pure sugar like cotton candy 😭
They think I'm making it up 🥹
Low sounds make my organs feel vibrated, certain high sounds feel like trickles down my body, just underneath the skin.
My version of synesthesia: There are certain flavors that immediately make me think of very specific colors. That's what I meant.
This feels so validating. When I found out I had synesthesia I just couldn’t accept that it wasn’t freaking normal. I can accept that people have a lesser sensation of it sure but none at all makes no sense to me. I feel stupid or alienated in my experiences and knowing that people do have at least something similar is comforting.
At least we can all agree science is green
This is incredibly common and I like it
i've never has "science" as a subject. biology is green, chemistry is yellow and physics is blue.
@@tru7hhimself 100%. Although biology can also be purple.
I've always suspected I have a very mild form of synesthesia due to my brain automatically assigning very specific colours to every letter in the alphabet and every numerical digit. When I was a kid I'd often use coloured pencils to write letters and numbers in the colours that seemed natural to them. (The letter M is a crimson red for example, N is orange, P is a pale tan, O is dark navy blue, etc.) However since this doesn't seem to extend to anything else in my daily life to the point that I often don't even think about it until someone mentions synesthesia, I have to wonder if it even really counts as true synesthesia at all.
All my math books were blue, grey or black, by the way. Science was either blue or green (if Math was blue, science was green, but if math was black or grey that year, science was blue.) Red I always reserved for English, and history was a very dark pine green or brown. I don't recall ever having many yellow notebooks.
I would say this is probably synesthesia, particularly given how individual and specific your associations are with letters. That would be an example of colour-grapheme synesthesia. There are synesthesia tests online that you can do for fun which get you to match the letters with the colours you associated them with. Frankly, my synesthesia is pretty unnoticeable day to day. The people who think it's a superpower either don't have it or want to feel special. It may help with creativity somewhat, or with organizing information, but since it is often paired with other conditions, it's hard to say for sure if it is a cause or an interesting side effect.
That's not "mild." That's often the go-to example.
There's no way those rose-tinted glasses weren't there on purpose haha. I love this channel so much. Merry Christmas.
Math is blue, English is red, science is green, history is yellow. I’m sure it relates to the color your textbooks were most often in school.
Math red, English blue for me.
I used blue for history, yellow for math
my math and science is the same as yours but English and history are the other way round for me.
This is the only right answer
I agree with Math being blue and science being green, but for me English is purple and Social Studies/History is Orange.
Yellow was my Homework folder, and Red was Spanish for me.
I have a rarer form called numerical-spatial synesthesia. My mind will automatically map numbers onto a 4-dimensional model. I say that because as I move around the number line, the model shifts around depending on where I am. It sort of resembles the quaternary structure of a protein. This also happens for dates of the year, the years themselves, and any other kind of sequence. I went most of my life thinking everyone visualized numbers this way, but apparently not.
That's so cool!
3:56 ContraPoints ruined the word "mouthfeel" for me
😂
Yes! I’m glad someone else had this thought! 😂
...I do not want to know... (I have seen some ContraPoints vids, but apparently not that bit)
Omg made it so much better
Synesthesia is what made Richard Feynman so amazing at math - equations were color-coded for him!
For me math was blue, english blue, science blue, history blue..... they were all blue. I really like blue 💙
Dabba dee, dabba di?
I only get this as to say that Water tastes Silver after eating salty snacks, bc it tastes metallic
But does red make it go fastah?
Knowing the reference, here is a real response... it does. Red sports cars have higher insurance premiums and are more likely to be involved in traffic violations. Red go fast.
@@terrafirma5327
With that in mind, it seems like a bad idea to use the colour to try to make cars stop moving...
@@jaschabull2365 stoopid oomie
@@jaschabull2365 hmm yes that is a contradiction
'Sonic Seasonings' was a great ambient music album by Wendy Carlos. She and Warner Bros should sue for copyright.
6 or so graphic design students working on assignments in college.
Student no 1 ...What colour is 3?
The rest gave suggestions varying around yellows, yellowy greens and greeny yellows.
A minute later one pointed out that no one had questioned the concept that numbers had colours.
Years later when I, at least, linked this with synesthesia and reslised that it was probably more common that we had been led to believe.
It's so interesting when there is a convergence among synesthetes about the color of a particular number or letter. 3 is defnitely green for me too. And red is by far the most common color for the letter A (though it's still a minority of all synesthetes). Seems there are some kind of cultural factors at work when this happens. For A's it makes sense, because the first letter of most alphabet books and sets for children is red, so that association gets built young. I wonder what the reason is for the green and yellow 3s?
@@erinm9445 3 (the written symbol) is a pale lilac-blue to me, spoken out-loud it definitely has some yellow, probably with some yellow-orange in there and some green. Shape versus mouth-shape/sound. Super weird. If your theory of cultural background is true, then perhaps they are subconsciously mapping the sequences onto the rainbow: A-1-RED, B-2-ORANGE, C-3-YELLOW, etc...
I read somewhere that 1 in every 7 artists is synesthetic which could help explain why the graphic design students all had it. I actually think it's probably more like 1 in 3 or 4. They might have even been attracted to GD because of all the colorful typography. I'm an art teacher and synesthete (color-grapheme), so that tracks. I'm pretty sure it's genetic, too. I remember a similar conversation with my mom and two sisters. The only color/number we could agree on was that 2 is blue...plus my middle sister looked at the other 3 of us and said "What on earth are you talking about?" Apparently only my youngest sister and I must have inherited it from our mom, and it wasn't learned because most of our colors and numbers didn't match up. BTW, I agree 3 is DEFINITELY green, as is Friday (anyone else do that with days of the week?)
Thank you, I love learning stuff.
Violins actually hurt my hearing. I don't know why. But I heard one kid, about eleven years old, busking. I cried for the beauty, and still don't know why.
3:54 Yes, many people with sensory sensitivities are already highly aware of this fact lol
Technology is light blue, notes is yellow, language is green, Internet is a dark blue!
This episode smells like Christmas
I taste the stuffing
Feels like corduroy
No, we cannot all agree that it's hard to concentrate when someone screams (metal and dark ambient fan).
What about when you can see someone mouthing the sound of 'B' or 'P' but the audio is the same, but you hear it differently because of the crossover between sight and sound.
This is absolutely mindblowing when you try it.. it's impossible to change, even if you know the trick. It would be very interesting to discover just how much your perception is influenced by other senses.. the whole of reality could be completely upside down and different!
Talking of upside down - an old experiment has people wearing glasses with mirrors that turn your vision upside down. After a number of days, your brain flips it back and it's all normal again . But, when they took the glasses off - everything appeared upside-down again! Crazy...
The image on the retina is flipped upside down anyway when it goes through the pinhole (exactly the same as how a pinhole camera sees the image). You'd expect that we just evolved to see the world the right way up, but as it turns out, the brain is FAR more plastic that we realise - and as this video explains, it's far more adaptable too.
Having known someone with synesthesia, one experience that several of us had was that when they described what color a person's voice was those of us without synesthesia found set the color felt correct. It is always made me suspect that we all have synesthesia it's just that most of us learn to ignore it. Those color/scent trials for the most fascinating and I'd love to see more along that line.
"Warmer" tones or lower frequency sound is redder while higher pitched "cooler" sounds are bluer. Sounds nearer the peak frequencies you can hear might be associated with green, yellow, or white.
A last minute christmas gift from scishow for those of us who didn’t get much from anybody in our family (aka most moms)? I’ll take it, thank you!
Hi, glad I have something to contribute here!! Math is red, science is green, but English is actually gonna go ahead and be blue.
LOVE Savannah! More of them, please!!!!!
Sounds about right.
At Heston Blumental’s restaurant they get you to crunch a carrot while listening to the sound processed and amplified. This apparently makes the carrot taste loads better.
How do we know if it's synesthesia or just pattern matching from past experiences? For example, higher frequency in dry hands and maybe you also met your first Danny who smelled like oranges. So now you associate Danny with any citrusy smell
My husband has synesthesia; he sees color with letters & music notes. An E is blue whether spoken, sung, written in print, or written in braille. lol. He can still see bright, saturated colors (though that's started to fade) & when he was younger he could read print a little if the letters were large & contrasted enough. He learned print, braille, & music all at about 5 & apparently the colors match an alphabet toy he had as a preschooler.
(He has glaucoma as a complication to the surgery to remove his congenital cataracts. It's progression has been slowed way down, though what sight remains isn't terribly useful anymore. He's nearly 50. He did get to see April's eclipse, tho! And he'll always see color when he's reading or listening to music.)
3:15 Shai-Hulud?
Yes
I get the dune reference. You are a true nerd
Why do all these studies have less than 1000 people?
Math is blue because most things dealing with computers are blue, Science is green because it starts with the natural world which is mostly green, English or Literature is yellow because you need light to write and the sun is yellow, and History is red because much of history is written in blood which is red.
Exactly 🎉
Correct. All other modalities are objectively wrong.
History is blue because it's dead and cold. Science is yellow because most of those experiments make me nauseous. Language is red because they are a no go for me. Math is green because that's just logical.
One sec, computers are more frequently black than blue, nature is mostly blue, since we live on a water world. Actually the CMB is most visible in every direction so science is microwave colored /jk or invisible I guess if you want to count dark energy. but it's funny how our brains convince us they're arriving at a logical conclusion when you could use near anything
Or because her first subject notebooks just happened to be those colors.
i don’t think that associations between senses and experiences is synesthesia 😅 isn’t that just how senses work? this is misdefining synesthesia as the effect of our senses working together and influencing each other.
1:24 uhhh, yeah. This video title is bad and you should feel bad. The channel has been around since dang near the start of UA-cam, so i thought yall would be aware of how people will mis-learn and misrepresent things later on to others. None of the following examples are anything close to what synesthesia is considered, just ways our experiences can influence something that follows closely. I know this channel was headed this way when you did the video on ABA therapy. It's just bad pop science communication now.
Just looked at "ABA therapy" as a refresher. I've an entire ASD/AuDHD family tree, so navigating the neurotypical world as a parent has been intense. For the most part though my interactions with things like this are a handful of years in the past. The terms etc become fuzzy...
When I "refreshed" my knowledge of ABA though, I scared the heck outta my cats hollering "AAAHHH! THIS!" I proceeded to stomp and anger-mutter for a few... I have my own "history" with this... this philosophy. 😤
I was ALL in on this at first. In my generation it was ALL about masking, but it wasn't known as that. It was "navigating" or "coping"... and generally fit the ABA template. Of couse, my only understanding of ASD was my neighbor who was non-verbal etc. Kids like me just got all the "underachieving weirdo" labels and guilt and pressure - but "that was ✨️motivating✨️" 🙄😡. So then, in my kids' school, it seemed absolutely sensible to me to engage and follow all the "ABA stuff"...
Until finally, FINALLY I started to see that my child was being DAMAGED, and NOT HELPED! I grappled with all that this included, and ultimately accepted that 1) My kiddo may need certain aids and supports all their life - and THAT'S OK! 2) I was constantly failing to truly accept my child as whole and complete and worthy AS IS - going around with "explanations" (read: EXCUSES 😢) at the tip of my lips, even when other parents found no fault... I was projecting SHAME! I was ashamed and embarrassed, which is simply shameful of ME.... and 3) I learned the term "masking". I realized that was what I was shoving on my kids, and only recently am actually starting to realize the ways it's damaged ME.
After this paradigm shift of mine, y'know what happend? My eldest began to THRIVE! FREAKIN *THRIVE!!!* Being actually and truly accepted and encouraged as their own self, with their own unique beauty and skills highlighted and supported, with the unconditional love all kids deserve, and genuine pride and support that child had earned so very many times over, THIS was the foundation my child had been lacking!! (Bawling break here.... 😭 I did so much wrong by trying to do right, but needed first to listen to and learn and trust MY OWN CHILD first 😫😭😫😭😫😭😫)
I'd THOUGHT I was "doing right" by my kid, but was only hammering them with all their supposed "wrongs" - AND I WAS WRONG!! 😢
I'd always been a parent that school personnel either hated or loved because I wouldn't ever do "easy" if it wasn't RIGHT. NOW though.... I really had to battle for what would actually be in my child's best interest. This was oftentimes NOT in the "best interest" of administration, and I didn't give a damn!
ABA SUCKS! It is MASKING - PURE AND SIMPLE! IF people want to continue to advocate for it on the grounds of how it's changed and grown to "be better" - FINE! Then call it something else! Because it will HAVE TO CHANGE SO MUCH as to be something completely different, before I will even consider it a viable tool for helping neuro-spicy individuals!!
One of the ways ALL KIDS are the SAME? THEY GET SOLD SHORT! Kids WANT to "be good" - DESPERATELY! So LISTEN TO YOUR CHILDREN - PLEASE PLEASE!!!! Each child is unique. Every child will only benefit from being allowed to be their own selves, and being supported as such!
My children will live their own adventures as their own selves. It is my own honor to be allowed to learn who they are as they themselves explore, discover, and grow their own selves! Learning how to deal with the world from there is a challenge for ALL, and those who rise best to that challenge do not do so by masking!
😤😤😤😤😤😤😤
LONG rant. Sorry. 😅 I'm rather triggered and empassioned, I guess 😳🥲
Take care. Thank you for calling this out.
Oh, much more brief - "...title is bad and you should feel bad." This wording rings a bell. You wouldn't happen to be familiar with "Beau/Belle ofnthe Fifth Column"?
I'm not sure if that style of wording started there or elsewhere, but that's where I've heard it. 😊
Just curious. Agapé 303 😉
@KOKO-uu7yd it's something that Zoidberg says in Futurama. i stopped watching Beau when his criminal history was revealed (human trafficking/exploiting immigrant labor). I'm also gonna take some extra time to read your first comment to make sure I understand your point of view.
As for me, I feel ABA therapy is good as long as it's a good place, same as daycare. My child has autism (level 3), and ABA has helped her communicate wants and needs, and that's allowed her to have an easier time with life. I think ABA can be good therapy. Obviously that Rutledge place in NJ is monstrous and abhorrent, and therapies that include punishment should not exist.
I hope this convo doesn't come off the wrong way.
@KOKO-uu7yd ABA therapy is good or bad, the same way school or daycare curricula can be good or bad. I have heard the stories of how bad ABA can be, but after observing the ABA therapy place my child goes to, i can say for sure that this place and the way they do ABA is good. It basically functions as a one on one kindergarten where the teachers/therapist are trained to communicate with and aid the kids with special needs.
I also don't appreciate some of the language you used in your comment. The term "neuro-spicy" comes across as self stereotyping and erases cases of children who are more severely affected by autistic conditions. It comes out of a reaction to the term "mildly neuro-divergent" or "neuro-divergent, mild". Meaning that someone with that diagnosis has autism, but their symptoms are not as severe as other cases. To refer to oneself as neuro-spicy is erasing away the more severe cases of kids with autism. Kids who can't speak for themselves because their communication is so affected.
I'm sorry you have felt the shame that you expressed. No one deserves that, even if it comes from within. I understand how that feels completely. That feeling of "bigots of low expectations" towards one's child is...terrible. I felt it, and you seemed to as well. I'm sorry the world has made it so hard to feel OK with how our kids are. Just know that other people feel like you and understand what you have been through. However, don't let that color the way you see helpful therapies like ABA or OT, ST, PT, and others.
Peace, love, and understanding
@ixdrums Thank you. I've actually never used the term "neuro-spicy" myself before, just been hearing it a lot. I'm not wrapping my head around your take on it yet, but I WILL BE not using it while I try to learn more. My whole goal is to NOT promote negative crud. I've found myself wishing some terms remained as a readily available quick way to identify the degrees of ASD, since my eldest's challenges would be termed "mild" yet the problems they have caused are and can be life altering. It's complicated, yet terms help with "snapshots" and getting a foundation for deeper understanding (as long as those terms are a START not an END of someone's understanding, which I feel so many try to control for others but we can't)
Anyway, I've not the time to really make sure I'm making sense, but I don't want to NOT respond. Please excuse any eye-rollingly ridiculous confusing convolutions 🥲
As for my own experience with ADA - I'm VERY worked up by it, but I do believe what you and your child are experiencing is VERY GOOD. I just really wish there was that "quick snapshot" way of differentiating between the experience of what it sounds like it CAN be / has become, and what I've experienced. The programs I've experienced it through were not just "unfortunate individuals with an inaccurate understanding" - or at least that's not how it was presented. This was the ENTIRE program, accross a large urban school district and even neighboring programs.
That's why I sincerely wish for just a different name for the "NEW" stuff. Tbh though, I can't really speak with any authority, and I need to remember that. Also, I certainly can't dictate terms used 😆😅😅 So, if ADA evolves and stabilizes into something closer to your own experience? AWESOME! I'm just nervous as a cat about to kitten for those who might THINK a program is like yours, and then get what my own family experienced for so many damaging years. I shudder for the children still stuck there 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
I'm really lost though on what you were saying about the term "neuro-spicy"?? Can you point me to any videos or articles to maybe better understand? Terms will keep evolving etc, and in the goal of actually communicating with the weird-wide variety of humans I try to keep up and keep humor with compassion. I don't like that I'm so NOT understanding what you've said, as I feel it's pretty important...😢
Thank you
I really enjoyed this episode. Thank you.
Imagine someone scratching their nails on a chalkboard. Feel that frisson in your teeth or going down your back? There. Sound-touch synesthesia in action.
Weirdly enough, I don't get that reaction with the nails on blackboard thing. It's unpleasant, but the tone that really bugs me is at a different pitch. I've always wondered if it has something to do with my hearing impairment.
@@eliscanfield3913 Just curious: is it at a higher pitch or lower pitch that bothers you? By the way, the chalkboard scratch has a weird synesthetic effect on me: it triggers a tickle response at the base of my neck and travels down my spine.
Laughed out loud from the title and thumbnail 🤣 Thanks
math is blue, english is yellow and green is science
Science is also blue, just dark blue
And history is clearly red
Omg, MATH is BLUE. You are right.
Math is reddd
Math is green, civics is yellow, and science is blue
Math is yellow, English is Red and Science is Blue.
I have always subconsciously assigned an inherent color to numbers, letters of the alphabet, and some words. For numbers, the digits 1, 4, and 7 are green; 2, 5, and 8 are blue; and 3, 6 and 9 are red (0 has no color). For letters, B, N, P, and R are red; C, G, I, O, and Q are green; D, E, and F are orange/yellow, U is dark blue, V is purple, and other letters really don't have a color. Songs can also have colors of a sort; I generally think of songs in the key of D as brown, while songs in G are green. I think Billy Joel similarly assigns colors to different keys in fact.
Philosophers in the phenomenological tradition have been making this argument for a while. Merleau-Pontie, for instance, thought it was more or less fundamental to all experience. There’s a book called “The Spell of the Sensuous” by David Abram that explores perception and ecology pretty fascinatingly
Well, nobody expects anyone to overlook anything when they're deciding how to mass-produce food. So those clickbait scientific journal articles about tactile-taste crossmodal interaction get a lot of gravity, but we need to remember that the people who are best-suited to inform others about how to improve mass-produced food have been involved in food factories for quite a while (as the owners). This is why that article has been cited 100 times: everyone is hopping on the bandwagon because they aren't sure whether different people see the same colors as each other, or if the colors are different for different people. (in retrospect, I guess we could have called our elementary school teacher's little "paradox" about "not being able to know" what colors look like to others an ancient anti-Mendelian roar)
It doesn't really matter what kind of topical nonsense a scientist is going to force everyone to watch about food. He's certainly never experimented with food in his own home. He's just trying to walk away thinking he's "won" in his solo fight against "greedy people" (or, to be more accurate, "his solo attempt to clean up after regrettable lapses in judgement on behalf of appellate court judges and other such influential people"). Not that anyone ever minded if he were to win. His feelings are just kind of "a tree falling in the forest with no one to hear it", in the end. What was the point of insisting on being critical THAT MUCH? There was no point at all.
How can we reach that kid, and make sure he knows what witness protection programs are? How can we tell him that the invention and universal spread of the spoken word was a revolution against an indistinct "absolute monarchy" which it appears that other animals have continued to be governed under, so that the community of the future would be able to hold trials and appeals rather than for the "monarch" to be relied on for more things than he'd ever end up doing, and then it would be possible to become devoted to furthering the field of medicine?
Would HE say that perhaps before the first spoken word, the other animals ALSO had a completely different type of community structure?
How can we document all of his stances on everything?
Should we start off by forcing him to become a forensic scientist?
Savannah is so good at hosting these videos. They never miss.
Recently learned about the Bouba Kiki effect from xkcd so I’m excited to watch this one!
I can feel the sound of a metal fork scraping against a ceramic plate in my teeth
English - Red
Science - Blue
Math - Green
Social Studies (History) - Yellow
I'm glad someone got it right.
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I seem to have a weird form that never gets mentioned whenever the topic comes up. I hear sight. Things like moving objects and flashing lights make an array of muted thuds, blips, groans, and creaks in my mind. Some animated pixel art can make incredible music loops.
Idk man, I have synesthesia and the number 3 feels blue in the exact same way math feels blue (you are _violently wrong)_
You can ignore the bit in the video where she gives an opinion on the color of math. This was meant as a sort of joke, which she annoyingly peppers throughout. It's just not obvious they're meant to be funny because they fall so flat. You can also ignore numerous copycat commenters who also lack a sense of humor.
@@villadavida You clearly missed the part where this person was also joking lol 😅
@@trustthesauce I considered that possibility, but if a comment that begins "I have synesthesia" is a joke then the author needs to know it's overstepping.
@@villadavida Synesthesia isn't like, a disability dude. I do actually have it and as far as I'm concerned anyone can joke about it if they want
@@woodfur00 Thanks for the clarification.
The one with the square of gray that the subjects adjusted color on reminded me of a friend long ago who worked for the U.S. D.o.T. who was doing tests that looked a little like that (but it was a square of one color on a background of another color). He was working on a conjecture that people with one kind of color-blindness (say Red/Green, which both he and I had a little bit, which means less sensitivity to subtle changes in those hues in a mix) were actually more perceptive of other color differences (and he and I both agreed that we thought we could see more distinction in Blues and Yellows). He was doing this research for D.o.T. for possible specs for stop lights (in addition to his slightly personal interest). I volunteered to be a subject, but unfortunately since we knew each other he suspected there might be some bias, so I just advised him a bit on the software for managing the massive data collection.
As a side note, "we all have X" is one of the most insulting things you can say to someone who has a troublesome diagnosis/condition. I've had *clinicians* say "well, don't we all have a little PTSD" in response to my mention of the PTSD I had from a 3-year traumatic and violent experience.
hugs.
Yeah, I recently met a guy who clocked my 11yo as autistic (kiddo was pretending our shopping cart was a train, which is _not_ typical at his age.) He said he was autistic over philosophy & I'm wondering if he meant that in the "fascinated in the neurotypical way" or the "actually autistic & philosophy's my special interest" way
@@eliscanfield3913 I can see either one. I'm autistic as in I have Autism Spectrum Disorder. It would be reasonable for someone to explain my special interests as me being autistic about maps. It's also not a stretch to explain my difficulties with sensory input as being autistic about varied noise, or wearing only cotton against my skin. With those last two, someone who isn't autistic may use the term to simply refer to personal idiosyncrasies like those I experience.
100%. It comes off as dismissive, not supportive.
That shirt design just makes me think of Doctor Who
I was looking for that comment! 😅
Math is red, English is yellow, History is green, Science is blue
REAL
I make pictures out of plastic rhinestones. I can feel a difference in texture between the different colors. For example, black feels a little more grippy than white. Blue is soft, grey is like plastic paper, and orange is rough. I can't identify the shades by touch alone yet, but I can still feel the difference even with my eyes closed.
can you stop with the clickbait? y'all are better than this
I watched this video during my lunch, and i can't recall the taste of my noodles. This must be synesthesia. 😂
Americans have Synesthesia, the rest of the English speaking world has Synaesthesia.
I have a hypothesis that our color-subject associations are actually products of common trends in textbook cover design. Science textbooks are overwhelmingly green; English textbooks are often yellow or another bright color. My math textbooks were blue and so were the notebooks.
Interesting thought. The real question then is why are the textbooks predominantly those colours? Is there a broader cultural or perceptual association underlying these trends? Overall there seems to be a pattern of cool tones for math and science, and warm tones for social sciences and humanities, maybe because math and science are perceived as 'cool and analytical' while the social sciences/humanities are about more about emotion and interpersonal connection and perhaps therefore 'warmth'. Blue is an interesting one because it also relates to intangibility (the sky/heavens) and math is often seen as intangible. Green as many have pointed out is coded to the natural world. The graphic designers making textbooks are unlikely to have come up with a trend completely arbitrarily, instead I think they are at some level using existing colour symbolism.
NO . Science is blue .
Plants are green, science is plants. You're making no sense.
Marine biology is blue. That's a kind of science.
@@chere100 science is green. marine biology is a range of shades of green. blueish greens.
Blue is math, red is English, science is green
@@covertTJ Turquoise? I like turquoise.
Science is blue, Math is Red, and English is Green. History is yellow
Hahahaha when you said cereal cutting the roof of your mouth it was Captain Crunch that immediately sprang to mind! Lol.
I see with my hands. Which definitely was something I had to learn because I remember being at a birthday party when I was 5 or 6 and the game was you had to put your hand in a paper bag and then say what the object was and I was the only kid who couldn't do it. I was usually ahead of the class so being dumb in this really stood out for me and spurred me to learn. Then when I was 12 I lost my vision almost entirely and it happened within the span of a few weeks(after a head injury, exact mechanism unknown). I can 'see' so much better with my hands than my eyes! I don't do braille, I'm not quite that blind and can still read my computer screen, but for anything else - whether it's separating two legos or doing first aid on myself, it's my hands that see for me.
I have other crossovers that have always been with me - like numbers and letters having genders and colours or time occurring on a series of coloured wheels(I learned about analogue clocks late so the wheels are not due to visualizing a clock in my case). These seem to be a part of my autism and, I believe, are implicated in my photographic memory. But I'm certain the seeing through touch is an adaptation and it makes me wonder what else we could be training ourselves to experience and where would doing so create an advantage or increase enjoyment.
One of the best examples I saw in a documentary was chefs being unable to correctly identify tastes of fruit/berry drinks being artificially colored. Professionals with years of experience. There is a very strong connection between sight, smell and taste in a lot of people.
I used to sell handmade soap. Vanilla fragrances turn brown, so any soap with even a little vanilla in the scent blend will turn brown, and if there's a lot of vanilla, it turns almost chocolate brown. Invariably, people would smell those bars as being chocolate, rather than vanilla. This includes scents like cinnamon roll, where the primary scent is cinnamon. Things like hazelnut coffee scent would smell like hazelnut chocolate unless I told them it was coffee-scented. Vanilla is in a LOT of fragrances that you don't even realize, especially things like fragrances to replicate baked goods or sweets, so this was a regular occurrence.
And this is why different songs sound like different times.
6:50 So you're telling me that "first bite" silence every group has is just all of us trying to maximize taste for a second?
How intriguing how context seems to influence our senses!
8:00 Like cozy on the white eggshell coloured couch where you just spilled black coffee all over...had a bad time cleaning it up and finally get to have your Panettone in piece 😊😅
The rough texture causes micro abrasions on the tongue and mouth that then leads to a more jolting affect from the-sour. While the smooth texture leaves the surfaces unabraided, so more sweet is registered.
I have spatial sequence synesthesia, where sequences like numbers, letters, dates, time, etc. are visualized in 3D spaces. Always been curious to know how common that is.
I have that too. It's apparently quite rare. This is the first time I've ever heard someone else describe their own experiences with it.
I had an unpleasant house fire many years ago; for a few years after that- I would smell smoke whenever I was in or near anxiety attack or panic attack territory.