Forbidden Romance Between Teacher and Student Ends in Gruesome Murder

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  • @LawAndCrime
    @LawAndCrime  6 місяців тому +74

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    • @jentryrosesings
      @jentryrosesings 6 місяців тому +12

      SHE IS THE BEST! THIS IS AWESOME!!!! GO ANNIE!

    • @toddjohnson5176
      @toddjohnson5176 5 місяців тому +1

      Awesome. Just suscribed. 😊👍🏽

    • @keithbram7010
      @keithbram7010 5 місяців тому +2

      All the arm loco motion is not necessary. The content and delivery stand fine with just audio

    • @JW-vd4il
      @JW-vd4il 4 місяці тому

      Why doesnt this have an intro explaining what is going on?
      Just an Annie episode on your channel looks like you are stealing.
      Surely you know how to act better than this. ??

  • @Realrich206
    @Realrich206 6 місяців тому +589

    Forbidden romance? If a man did that they call it child abuse

    • @-MattMcCauley-
      @-MattMcCauley- 6 місяців тому +59

      Massive double standards.

    • @Realrich206
      @Realrich206 6 місяців тому +18

      @@-MattMcCauley- that’s America for you

    • @lookissjaxin
      @lookissjaxin 6 місяців тому

      Female privilege makes male privilege look like indentured servitude. Welcome to the Matriarchy -•

    • @katiehensley290
      @katiehensley290 6 місяців тому +23

      I've seen sa of a minor girl by an adult man referred to as a relationship by the media many times. Little girls also get accused of tempting men and blamed if he is married. I think there may be some added permissiveness between adult women and boys, but it's not as stark as all that. There's a lot gross people who justify r*ping teenagers.

    • @10base-teaparty97
      @10base-teaparty97 5 місяців тому +6

      Name three? Seriously, if you look at even a few, I bet you'll see the backlash is very different. Especially if it's a lone male youtuber talking for an hour on a set like this video. I just bet if you dig into what you're saying much at all, you'll wind up making the opposite of the point you're trying to make.

  • @Hail_To_The_King
    @Hail_To_The_King 6 місяців тому +453

    Imagine the news calling a male teacher boпing one of his students a 'forbidden romance'

    • @NeonSuperNovas
      @NeonSuperNovas 6 місяців тому

      Pretty women are so coddled in society 😂.

    • @paigestein3897
      @paigestein3897 6 місяців тому +28

      I know-it’s crazy. Every-time they say inappropriate relationship, I start yelling at the screen.

    • @LupeCoded
      @LupeCoded 6 місяців тому +6

      Fr tho

    • @lookissjaxin
      @lookissjaxin 6 місяців тому

      Female privilege makes male privilege look like indentured servitude.

    • @katiehensley290
      @katiehensley290 6 місяців тому +7

      I mean I've seen the media say this about a man and a girl. Maybe it wouldn't be the headline, and yes this is wildly inappropriate, but definitely within news reports sa of teenagers is routinely referred to as a relationship. It's maddening. Many people in society also blame children for seducing adults. It's disgusting.

  • @err0r0b0
    @err0r0b0 6 місяців тому +658

    At this point I’m convinced that teachers were sleeping with every student except me..

    • @dodgerdan13able
      @dodgerdan13able 6 місяців тому +26

      😂

    • @margaretlumley1648
      @margaretlumley1648 6 місяців тому +61

      It's not just you. They didn't sleep with me either

    • @filmshooterfinn
      @filmshooterfinn 6 місяців тому +17

      Same!

    • @Fjk2134
      @Fjk2134 6 місяців тому +22

      😂😂 dude this is literally becoming a norm! To be honest it was a norm but back then there was no social media, etc

    • @rw8990
      @rw8990 6 місяців тому

      @@margaretlumley1648or me!

  • @racialconsciousness6996
    @racialconsciousness6996 6 місяців тому +254

    There are ZERO reasons why an adult teacher should be in a car with an underage student. Especially in the middle of the night.

    • @-MattMcCauley-
      @-MattMcCauley- 6 місяців тому

      Well, screwing is a reason.

    • @kenbob1071
      @kenbob1071 5 місяців тому +3

      Giving private lessons?

    • @Tokiohotel192
      @Tokiohotel192 4 місяці тому +1

      After an earthquake, my teacher drove me past the river that was filling the streets with silt, because otherwise id be stuck and couldn't get to my mum. Yes there is

    • @racialconsciousness6996
      @racialconsciousness6996 3 місяці тому +3

      @@Chad_Max -- At 2am?

  • @ShunnyMcbuns
    @ShunnyMcbuns 6 місяців тому +262

    She was a PDF FILE, not dating a teenager like wtf?

    • @MrSimondaniel3
      @MrSimondaniel3 6 місяців тому +11

      that's not really a ped, the kid was 17. that's an adult in many states. either way ped is pre-pubescent

    • @shannon897
      @shannon897 6 місяців тому +7

      I agree. It was obviously ethically and legally wrong. Especially as an educator…but it’s not correct to say she’s a ped.

    • @labitcoineragt3596
      @labitcoineragt3596 6 місяців тому +1

      👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

    • @Riversdoc11deff
      @Riversdoc11deff 5 місяців тому +7

      It’s a woman , and there are double standards .

    • @crystalglopez91623
      @crystalglopez91623 5 місяців тому

      She was a groomer

  • @ChrundleTGreat
    @ChrundleTGreat 5 місяців тому +180

    It’s not “forbidden romance” it’s child molestation. If it had been a male teacher you wouldn’t be so flippant about it.

    • @Rob-z7k
      @Rob-z7k 5 місяців тому +1

      Maybe the kids dad was the one who did it!

    • @kellynicole3672
      @kellynicole3672 4 місяці тому

      Who cares she was murdered like you’re really focusing on the title?

    • @annemarie5427
      @annemarie5427 4 місяці тому

      No its not, when theyre weeks to months away from being consenting adult. the whole teen adult thing has never been frowned upon until the past few decades. Molestation is being inappropriate with someone younger than child bearing age.

    • @bigt5096
      @bigt5096 4 місяці тому

      @@kellynicole3672 I’ll tell you why, because us men are finally starting to realize and see that women are not EVER held accountable and to the same standards that men are held to. Especially on this topic/subject.

    • @irinasofia_sm
      @irinasofia_sm 4 місяці тому

      ​@@bigt5096and why is that? because YOU men always made fun of other men when they reported abuse. Because YOU men always made society believe that a teen boy with an adult woman was an amazing experience for the boy. YOU men are the cause of this, not us. The same way YOU men always decide to not believe women when they also report SA against them. So blame you men for how things are now.

  • @julichio6241
    @julichio6241 6 місяців тому +154

    She goes with the kid then the brother too? Wtf sorry for the murder but.. that kid shouldn't have been put in that position in the first place..

  • @desertflower9858
    @desertflower9858 6 місяців тому +81

    IMO: Rachel was engaged in multiple risky behaviors, so the murder could have come from multiple sources.

  • @nicoleselsky7273
    @nicoleselsky7273 6 місяців тому +114

    The fact that she let her mom get so involved with her marriage/wedding, telling her not to sign the prenup, already a red flag. Of course you don’t want your daughter signing that, because he’s rich. Yikes

    • @-MattMcCauley-
      @-MattMcCauley- 6 місяців тому

      The mother is trash and the daughter was trash. Old Frank dodged a major bullet!

    • @natt4003
      @natt4003 5 місяців тому +11

      Yeah she was like “he was weirdly involved”ummm hello it was HIS wedding

    • @MIGGYME1
      @MIGGYME1 4 місяці тому +3

      Yea her mom indirectly caused her death. She signs the prenup,she marries the guy and prolly never gets involved with the students. Definitely makes for great discussion

    • @redrose2905
      @redrose2905 4 місяці тому

      Yes greed is curse

    • @VeeveeMadeleine
      @VeeveeMadeleine 9 днів тому

      Right & he was right to ask for the pre nup he knew her character ultimately I mean look at how she acted he dodged a bullet smh pathetic

  • @filmshooterfinn
    @filmshooterfinn 6 місяців тому +174

    As a teacher, you need boundaries. No excuses.

    • @DonMega888
      @DonMega888 6 місяців тому

      No anal under any circumstances

    • @Pissedoffdetective
      @Pissedoffdetective 6 місяців тому

      She wasn't his teacher, and the age of consent in Pittsburgh is 16. Absolutely nothing illegal or morally wrong if she was shagging him at 17 to her 25 at the time. Grow up and try educating yourself.

    • @jessicajamesspeaks
      @jessicajamesspeaks 4 місяці тому +1

      💯

    • @leeasmr3857
      @leeasmr3857 4 місяці тому

      I know, imagine if sexes were reversed….. they wouldn’t be calling it a forbidden romance 🙄

  • @azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn
    @azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn 6 місяців тому +51

    There are massive double standards when it comes to peoples views of how harshly to treat a criminal, based on gender
    flip them around and would not everyone be thinking "deserved"?

  • @tanyaedwards4574
    @tanyaedwards4574 6 місяців тому +95

    I kinda wonder why Lauren made friends with her and declared her to be a bestie, and why did she suggest that they go out on their own once she dropped the other friend at home? That sounds suspicious to me...

    • @crayzycallingsalvationarmy9779
      @crayzycallingsalvationarmy9779 5 місяців тому +51

      And told her to “go on a walk and I’ll pick you up.” And there just happened to be someone waiting for her? Lauren definitely has a part in this. 💯

    • @jackiemk32
      @jackiemk32 5 місяців тому +17

      ​@@crayzycallingsalvationarmy9779Yeah, why didn't the host mention Lauren as a suspect?

    • @Jsmith9619
      @Jsmith9619 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@crayzycallingsalvationarmy9779 also Lauren's dad got in trouble for something he did to compromise the scene where she was found, at least that's what I heard

    • @InsShogunGage
      @InsShogunGage 3 місяці тому +1

      That's what I'm saying - especially that her Pops was on the force and had personal issues w Rachel.
      Sounds like a setup for sure

    • @tanyaedwards4574
      @tanyaedwards4574 3 місяці тому

      @@InsShogunGage This is so funny- I'm watching another Annie Elise video, and I noticed a like come through for this 😅😅

  • @MrBears25
    @MrBears25 6 місяців тому +83

    Why would you continue dating after rejecting a prenup?

    • @margaretlumley1648
      @margaretlumley1648 6 місяців тому +9

      Exactly. I think Frank was a controlling and dangerous person who was in cahoots with the Police

    • @RealSerie26
      @RealSerie26 6 місяців тому

      @doreeneclose It doesn't matter. NOBODY is Elon. Those were HIS assets, and he had the right to protect them. It's not like the statistics were on his side.

    • @MrSimondaniel3
      @MrSimondaniel3 6 місяців тому +12

      ​@@margaretlumley1648 in cahoots with the police? I don't see any evidence of that.

    • @francinejones2524
      @francinejones2524 6 місяців тому +5

      Money?

    • @francinejones2524
      @francinejones2524 6 місяців тому +6

      @doreenecloseWe have a pre-nup! It’s being sensible if one puts significantly more money into the marriage than the other. It’s okay to have it in writing if you end up in divorce you both leave with what you bought in.

  • @mirabella2154
    @mirabella2154 6 місяців тому +63

    These teachers are unhinged. 🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @bigt5096
      @bigt5096 4 місяці тому

      Over the last 6-12 months I’ve been seeing 100’s and 100’s of women teachers on the news that are pedophiles and grooming young boys. Sad and pathetic.

    • @mamarobyn
      @mamarobyn 4 місяці тому

      It's crazy right, and why are they always attractive?That's the thing that really boggles my mind.I mean, the whole thing is just bizarre, but it keeps happening.And these are just the ones we know about

    • @dujuanjohnson5025
      @dujuanjohnson5025 3 місяці тому

      @@mamarobynyou women are weird

    • @nicholascoob1350
      @nicholascoob1350 2 місяці тому

      @@mamarobyn She isn't attractive

  • @RullXov
    @RullXov 6 місяців тому +68

    I've seen this case before.
    It is difficult for me to feel much sympathy for this [victim], Rachael.

    • @gawd4582
      @gawd4582 5 місяців тому +1

      She was a r4pist.

  • @elllekelly2215
    @elllekelly2215 6 місяців тому +72

    Rachel? What are you doing?
    You are a Teacher ? You dont hang out socially with 17 year olds...you want to be a Guidance Counselor and help you do this at 🚸 school?
    This story is Beyond Disturbing..
    Yet another Teacher hooking up with Students..
    You need to date people your own age..
    Not surprised on the outcome?
    You were playing with 🔥 Fire..
    I think Sheldon shot Rachel..jealousy..she was dating his stephalf brother..
    Consequences Consequences
    Great Lighting, Background × great Storytelling AnnaLise
    Such a Fan Girl!! 👏 ❤

    • @TSwizzle777
      @TSwizzle777 6 місяців тому +9

      How do you have a step half brother?

    • @alsekulic6100
      @alsekulic6100 5 місяців тому

      Why was nothing mentioned about whether or not they compared bullets to see if bullets used in both murders came from same gun.
      Yes, I believe it was Sheldon also. When half brother stopped texting Sheldon about why he was with Rachel, it allowed his imagination to go wild and his jealousy got the better of him. This also explains how murderer knew what time to be at Rachel's house to murder her when she got home that night.

  • @mistybennett4103
    @mistybennett4103 4 місяці тому +6

    Rachel is the problem... refusing to sign a prenup, returning the ring, abusing a student.

  • @lookissjaxin
    @lookissjaxin 6 місяців тому +39

    No one destroyed Rachel‘s reputation but Rachel. Switch genders and she would’ve went straight to jail, do not pass go….

    • @-MattMcCauley-
      @-MattMcCauley- 6 місяців тому

      Exactly. Leave it to a modern women to engage in disgusting, illegal behavior and then play the victim and demonize those who caught her, lol

    • @kittencatlover156
      @kittencatlover156 6 місяців тому

      More woman who have student affairs go to jail percentage wise than Men fyi.

  • @CmarieWelch
    @CmarieWelch 6 місяців тому +54

    The cop's daughter set her up.He was one of the cops that pulled her over that night. He was part of her complaint/case.

    • @-MattMcCauley-
      @-MattMcCauley- 6 місяців тому

      Low IQ, happens all the time.

    • @margaretlumley1648
      @margaretlumley1648 6 місяців тому +7

      Yes 🙃

    • @foxracerdrew
      @foxracerdrew 6 місяців тому +9

      I don't think it was the cop per se. I think it was Sheldon with help from Lauren. Then after learning what his daughter was involved, did what he could to cover it up.

    • @YamiDYoLLa
      @YamiDYoLLa 5 місяців тому +4

      I do think Lauren has something to do with it. She was supposed to be the bestie but was snitching on her. And outside of Rachel she’s the only one connected to all parties right?

  • @gawd4582
    @gawd4582 5 місяців тому +25

    He was a victim of that PDF file, even if he didn't recognize it!!! If he had PTSD, it wouldn't surprise me. Then she mobes on to date his brother, albeit an adult.

    • @EnigmaticHandbags91
      @EnigmaticHandbags91 3 місяці тому

      The legal age of consent in Pennsylvania is 16. Also, he was a murderer. He murdered someone else too

  • @elkbow
    @elkbow 6 місяців тому +52

    Rachel created her own destiny.

  • @SeasideRobin
    @SeasideRobin 6 місяців тому +19

    It was all of them together. This reminds me of the movie Wild Things. Frank had the money to pay the Police for the report and for the trigger man, the "Friend" was paid and played, Sheldon the trigger man jealous and crazy, and the Police Investigator that just happened to have the report in front of him, and let it all "leak out" (he held it for money from Frank for a year).

    • @shaeleon8734
      @shaeleon8734 4 місяці тому +3

      Almost correct, Sheldon‘s roommate was involved and that’s why he ended up dead!

  • @violetpurple6191
    @violetpurple6191 6 місяців тому +21

    obviously it was Sheldon. Youth are full of emotion, probably intense jealousy of knowing his half-brother is with her. The fact he was convicted of another murder shows he is fully capable. Same method for killing, and also same seeming lack of motive.
    I wonder if they ever matched the bullets for both cases.

    • @SassyShell13
      @SassyShell13 5 місяців тому +1

      That's what I was wondering too. It never says anything about the bullets matching or not.

    • @shabba3450
      @shabba3450 4 місяці тому +2

      COPS DID IT. SHE WAS SNITCHING ON THEM

  • @trfaison
    @trfaison 4 місяці тому +3

    I remember this case. As I understand, they didn't have proof that Rachael was in a relationship with the student. She had poor boundaries with these teens.
    Frank's relationship with the police also appears to be a problem.

  • @jamiepriestley2437
    @jamiepriestley2437 6 місяців тому +30

    No matter if rich or poor... Get a prenup.

  • @joutoob9
    @joutoob9 6 місяців тому +13

    Thank you for not not using gratuitous corny stock footage in this video.

  • @Perfinn
    @Perfinn 6 місяців тому +63

    I just wanna say never seen your channel before this series on law and crime and I absolutely love your commentary, great energy, easy to follow, interesting insights, great content !

    • @lisacallan5462
      @lisacallan5462 6 місяців тому +3

      They're fantastic!

    • @rozfisher2182
      @rozfisher2182 6 місяців тому +2

      She’s our true crime bestie ❤

    • @donnajones8954
      @donnajones8954 4 місяці тому

      No disrespect to the other guy, but she really brings it

  • @tes2bebe115
    @tes2bebe115 6 місяців тому +37

    What's in this town's water?

  • @Alexander21025
    @Alexander21025 6 місяців тому +29

    I do find it very strange that Sheldon, had he done the 1st murder, got rid of the murder weapon and clothes, but 2nd time around, knows the police will search his room, keeps it easy for them to find.

  • @MegMelise
    @MegMelise 5 місяців тому +8

    Idk man i dont trust that policeman's daughter. That all seems like a setup

  • @Leesha0585
    @Leesha0585 6 місяців тому +15

    Rachel was TOXIC! Honestly, I don’t blame her former fiancé for insisting on a prenup. If she really loved him, it wouldn’t have been that big of a deal. And for him to insist on a prenup, that means there wasn’t that trust anyway. So they just weren’t meant to be.

  • @RiverPaisley
    @RiverPaisley 6 місяців тому +27

    Hey great background and lighting!
    These story’s are so brutal.

  • @niterida380
    @niterida380 6 місяців тому +13

    Well, the way my teachers looked, I’m glad I didn’t get to see them after school.

  • @vaderbaby
    @vaderbaby 6 місяців тому +14

    In law enforcement there are no coincidences.
    As for who I think did it is based on who has the most connections to the victims problem, & sadly, that is the police department.

  • @ASMRR3N33
    @ASMRR3N33 6 місяців тому +26

    10 to Life on Law & Crime. You go girl 🎉🎉

    • @casey5683
      @casey5683 5 місяців тому +2

      Right?! I thought my UA-cam was glitching until she explained the premise of the podcast and I realized it was a collab!

    • @ASMRR3N33
      @ASMRR3N33 4 місяці тому

      @@casey5683 😀😀

  • @francinejones2524
    @francinejones2524 6 місяців тому +20

    Play with fire, you might get burnt. Thats the risk you take when you’re doing something you shouldn’t be doing. Sorry for her parents who will always feel the loss.

  • @Fantastic_Six
    @Fantastic_Six 6 місяців тому +26

    If he would kill his friend on a whim for zero reasons of course he killed a former teacher after she started dating his step bro. I mean this is so obvious

    • @MrSimondaniel3
      @MrSimondaniel3 6 місяців тому +4

      mmm I'm pretty sure it was the cops. she said the cops were following her, she was about to testify against them...

    • @wizology_
      @wizology_ 5 місяців тому

      @@MrSimondaniel3pretty sure it was the cops who killed rachel then killed the friend to frame the kid , but we will have to wait till more evidence comes out

    • @stanleymcquade6412
      @stanleymcquade6412 3 місяці тому

      With regard to emails to school board and others in the town about rachel being in the car w the boy,who has the ability to send untraceable emails? The police i would imagine? @@MrSimondaniel3

    • @LilyFlowers-hh3sc
      @LilyFlowers-hh3sc 3 місяці тому

      ​@@MrSimondaniel3well sadly she was a horrible person

  • @joegeejoegee
    @joegeejoegee 6 місяців тому +10

    In PA a 17 year old is legally at age of consent. Not saying it's cool. Just saying that it breaks no law. He wasn't her student.(Which may have changed things.)

    • @b00g3rs21
      @b00g3rs21 5 місяців тому +4

      That may be legally true, but still morally frowned on when it's such a large age gap, you know? Not to mention she admitted to knowing this child when he was much younger. Sounds like grooming behavior. That's setting aside the continued behavior with other minors. All in all, I'd say there's enough circumstancial evidence for people to want nothing to do with her.

    • @LilyFlowers-hh3sc
      @LilyFlowers-hh3sc 3 місяці тому

      ​@@b00g3rs21she deserved to go to jail the moment she decided to use her boyfriend for money

    • @kertarneaud4475
      @kertarneaud4475 2 місяці тому

      If it was a 17year old girl instead would your comment be the same way 🤔

    • @b00g3rs21
      @b00g3rs21 2 місяці тому +1

      @@LilyFlowers-hh3sc I don't know about that haha, it's pretty scummy behavior but I'm not sure it breaks any laws sadly

    • @LilyFlowers-hh3sc
      @LilyFlowers-hh3sc 2 місяці тому

      @@b00g3rs21 I know. I just feel like there should be some sort of punishment if you agree to marry someone and you still do shady things to that person and leave them completely blind to your real feelings. What if they got married and she ended up prego with the teens child? She could have easily destroyed 3 peoples lives and two would be children.

  • @Witchfoot.Incorporated
    @Witchfoot.Incorporated 5 місяців тому +6

    It’s the police to shut down exposure of corruption. The shooter had a silencer. The police made it look like a ‘crime of passion’ so others would assume it was her bf or an ex that killed her.

    • @andycampano
      @andycampano 5 місяців тому

      Yeah it's obvious to me considering the circumstances. Cops get away with murder all the time they even call it "God's work" They make it look how they want it to look

    • @stanleymcquade6412
      @stanleymcquade6412 3 місяці тому

      @@Witchfoot.Incorporated i was wondering about that. Did anyone hear shots? Was there evidence a silencer was used?

  • @SleeplessMomma
    @SleeplessMomma 6 місяців тому +37

    This whole thing is one giant WTF?!

    • @MrSimondaniel3
      @MrSimondaniel3 6 місяців тому +2

      sounds like it was the cops. she says they were following her, she was going to testify against the town.

    • @SleeplessMomma
      @SleeplessMomma 6 місяців тому

      @@MrSimondaniel3 Could very well be the cops. This is so crazy and scary.

    • @AndrewSmith-jm4sq
      @AndrewSmith-jm4sq 4 місяці тому +1

      It was like “anything goes” in this town.

    • @SleeplessMomma
      @SleeplessMomma 4 місяці тому

      @@AndrewSmith-jm4sq IKR, sheese!

    • @ShechinahRetzer
      @ShechinahRetzer 4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah this towns got issues to say the least

  • @alicefrompittsburgh7867
    @alicefrompittsburgh7867 6 місяців тому +7

    I’m from there, still here and I definitely have my opinion!

    • @LeslieJones-hl4jc
      @LeslieJones-hl4jc 4 місяці тому +1

      Who do you think it was?

    • @alicefrompittsburgh7867
      @alicefrompittsburgh7867 4 місяці тому +1

      My opinion, police cover up. I was married to an Aliquippa cop. State Police do all their investigations now. Im still in Beaver County, but I completely avoid that part of town.

  • @ko-yx3eh
    @ko-yx3eh 6 місяців тому +12

    i love when annie narrates!! her videos are always so in depth and i love her delivery

  • @TawnyC_
    @TawnyC_ 6 місяців тому +12

    Video starts 4:52

    • @darrtrubb
      @darrtrubb 4 місяці тому +1

      Guess you were thinking the same thing I was 🗣️ 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🙄

  • @shotsfired2188
    @shotsfired2188 6 місяців тому +11

    Cops walking away with money and retirement still always makes me laugh 😂 mans said his reputation was ruined, as if he didnt ruin it himself.

    • @shotsfired2188
      @shotsfired2188 6 місяців тому

      Also..when I was 18, I was dating a 38 year old..I was out of highschool and this is when I moved to a new state..so I ask the question is that weird? Cause it was normal to me and not to far off age wise in this situation

    • @casey5683
      @casey5683 5 місяців тому +1

      @@shotsfired2188I hope you know that is weird babe. No normal 38 year old should/would be interested in an 18 year old no matter how “mature” or how much of an “old soul” you are. I hope you’re out of that now ❤

    • @shotsfired2188
      @shotsfired2188 5 місяців тому +1

      @casey5683 I'm 25, with a 39 year old. Still not weird.

    • @shotsfired2188
      @shotsfired2188 5 місяців тому +1

      @casey5683 has nothing to do with an "old soul" either. I could honestly deep dive what I'm talking about. But your entitled to your opinion.

  • @GlamGam1964
    @GlamGam1964 6 місяців тому +14

    This sounds like a “hit.” Almost like a mob hit. Frank seems to have no motive. And why would Sheldon kill her?

  • @hayatorpg3896
    @hayatorpg3896 6 місяців тому +15

    Don’t let the Hodge Twins get ahold of this

    • @crayCray420
      @crayCray420 6 місяців тому +2

      who? and why? I don't know who you are talking about. thank you ❤

    • @DonMega888
      @DonMega888 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@crayCray420🤨

    • @hayatorpg3896
      @hayatorpg3896 6 місяців тому

      @@DonMega888 🤣

  • @MrDellkwd
    @MrDellkwd 6 місяців тому +10

    The bullets should match the gun used each gun has a unigue barrel spiral groove no gun barrel has the same spiral grooves . So once the bullet leaves the barrel it has its own footprint. didn't they check the bullets ? It's common sense !

    • @djitalianice
      @djitalianice 6 місяців тому +2

      Doesn’t always work that way. Especially if the round is pure lead because it will warp on impact

    • @MrSimondaniel3
      @MrSimondaniel3 6 місяців тому

      ​@djitalianice not too many 9mm loads are pure lead, I think. except hand loads.

  • @musicaparatusaves2316
    @musicaparatusaves2316 5 місяців тому +8

    Everyone was sketchy in this town 👀🫣

  • @davinahernandez4027
    @davinahernandez4027 5 місяців тому +8

    Law & crime is now posting Annie Elise! I love it!

  • @MrBears25
    @MrBears25 6 місяців тому +9

    Who is at fault should Teachers be meaning up with students at all?

    • @NotJessH
      @NotJessH 5 місяців тому +1

      No! I taught high school for years and coached cheerleading. Never met with students outside of the classroom and cheer coaching/ games.

  • @NaughtWrite
    @NaughtWrite 6 місяців тому +13

    I’m sorry but I’m suspicious AF of the ex best friend.

    • @MA-rn2xp
      @MA-rn2xp 6 місяців тому +1

      She knew but didn't tell anyone. She covered up for her friend. Was she charged as an accessory because she was complicit

    • @NaughtWrite
      @NaughtWrite 6 місяців тому +1

      @@MA-rn2xpher anger was weird to me. If you knew your friend was going through it because of a break up, but rarely talked to her, and when you do she doesn’t look how YOU expect her to look after a rough time and you decide the first thing you do when she doesn’t react how you expect her to act, is to put something she told you in confidence? And then magically the report gets wrote up a year later then released anonymously? Her ex best friend’s behavior reminds me of the behavior of the catfish case in Australia where the woman catfished her best friend and then she ended up unaliving herself.
      Plus, them continuing to call the student her sometimes student, what evidence is there besides the word of others? I just have so many questions.

    • @maggiemdz
      @maggiemdz 6 місяців тому

      She’s the first person I thought of!

  • @MattsMimi2021
    @MattsMimi2021 5 місяців тому +4

    My Annie on Law And Crime!! I love it!!! ❤️💪

  • @stroNg2thaBoNe2thaMax
    @stroNg2thaBoNe2thaMax 5 місяців тому +3

    People don't know how to not mix work with their love lives. Almost every job I've worked at, there is someone dating on the job. It's annoying and speaks to a bigger issue. People don't know how to date outside of social media or the work place.

  • @chris55529
    @chris55529 6 місяців тому +20

    Still the best eyebrows in the entire true crime community...

    • @MizDBMe
      @MizDBMe 6 місяців тому +5

      Idk.. Bailey Sarian with DARK History/ MMM Monday has some bad as$ brows too. 🫶🏻

    • @Diarmuid007
      @Diarmuid007 6 місяців тому +1

      @ANDREWMOORE-thunderbolt 😂😂😂😂

    • @springfauna1465
      @springfauna1465 5 місяців тому +2

      What's with the eyebrow thing these days?? It's totally bizarre! 🙄

  • @wolfhound146
    @wolfhound146 6 місяців тому +3

    You don't need to be married to have a meaningful partner all it takes is the same love you have been given each other. You don't need an expensive spectacle weddings are pointless and overrated anyway.

  • @Witchfoot.Incorporated
    @Witchfoot.Incorporated 5 місяців тому +5

    Rachel was messy af

  • @williamholmes1818
    @williamholmes1818 6 місяців тому +3

    A lot of lives could be saved if people would just divorce or break up with someone before sleeping with someone else.

    • @renebrown7394
      @renebrown7394 4 місяці тому +1

      No simpler words have ever been spoken, my friend, and for some reason it eludes so many

  • @Snail611
    @Snail611 5 місяців тому +1

    Great storytelling and bringing this story to life

  • @jeslynn1144
    @jeslynn1144 6 місяців тому +7

    I like how you explain crimes. You give us a picture inside….without many pictures. ❤

  • @amandapowers1767
    @amandapowers1767 3 місяці тому +1

    I like you. Please drop the “bestie” stuff. It’s annoying. It comes off like you’re trying too hard. Let it come naturally if your fans feel that way.

  • @jehremysmith2619
    @jehremysmith2619 5 місяців тому +6

    This whole town is messy af

  • @adambaumeister2376
    @adambaumeister2376 3 місяці тому +1

    The host is awful she always makes assumptions that she has absolutely zero clue about

  • @toddjohnson5176
    @toddjohnson5176 5 місяців тому +2

    Crazy case. Awesome job.just suscribed. 😊👍🏽

  • @billymaltez8030
    @billymaltez8030 5 місяців тому +1

    Sooooo, if the mother stayed out of her daughter's business or wedding arrangement, and by that I mean ruining their relationship by telling her daughter to make Frank not have a pre-nup, none of this woulda happened. So, regardless who pulled the trigger, the mother is equally responsible

  • @bethanybergeson4192
    @bethanybergeson4192 5 місяців тому +2

    The mother sounds like a complete narcissist and Rachael doesn't seem like an innocent victim.

  • @elycastle3048
    @elycastle3048 6 місяців тому +3

    How many people are there in this town.. looks like everyone is related to everyone.. weird..
    What about CCTVs? Maybe eyewitnesses? They should offer a reward for anyone who could lead the police to the suspect..

  • @CrazyMaryJo
    @CrazyMaryJo 6 місяців тому +6

    “what a tangled web we weave, when first we choose to deceive”. Well, not the ex. Likely Jeeter or Lauren .

    • @MrSimondaniel3
      @MrSimondaniel3 6 місяців тому +1

      sounds like the cops and maybe Lauren were involved.

  • @CeciliaMora-km8mz
    @CeciliaMora-km8mz 4 місяці тому +2

    What 30 yr old hangouts with 17 years old? And a teacher like wth? That's sounds gross

    • @lottoo5693
      @lottoo5693 4 місяці тому

      He confirmed that she was a sidechick 😂

  • @francinejones2524
    @francinejones2524 6 місяців тому +28

    I hope Frank was able to grab that 6ct diamond engagement ring back💎

    • @CJLopez-
      @CJLopez- 5 місяців тому +6

      It was said Rachel gave frank the ring back long before in February.

  • @t.o.o.smooth5870
    @t.o.o.smooth5870 3 місяці тому

    It seems there was more outrage for the leaking of the police report versus the teacher sleeping with an underage student.

  • @delesearmstrong4641
    @delesearmstrong4641 5 місяців тому +2

    I feel like the cops may have done this and covered it up. Heck they have the biggest motive. That boy Sheldon wasn’t trippin on her… she was for the streets. Respectfully.

  • @Fantastic_Six
    @Fantastic_Six 6 місяців тому +8

    Annie has some of the most perfect eyebrows ive ever seen.

  • @NIN_Mase
    @NIN_Mase 3 місяці тому +1

    Calling it romance is a little disturbing and distasteful ya think?

  • @GIVLuv41
    @GIVLuv41 3 місяці тому

    I think your question at the end answers it all.
    “who” is most likely responsible is the one who gains the most from her death, and has the means to cover it all up. Also a strong possibility that all mentioned (including students, cops, ex fiancée, and x-boyfriend, etc) likely had some small role in the plot to her murder even if the role was as small as to be investigated as a possible suspect and/or possible victim.

  • @truthtransparency
    @truthtransparency 6 місяців тому +10

    You have to know that Rachael was not suppose to be in PA that night.. she was in Cleveland that weekend and came home earlier bc of Mother’s Day.. not many knew she was gonna be in town on Sunday night bc she wasn’t expected back to Aliquippa.. and yet she was murdered on a night she wasn’t suppose to be in Aliquippa.. go ask her cousin..

  • @nickryan3288
    @nickryan3288 3 місяці тому

    Why did no one re-open the investigation into this woman and the high school kid? If this got brought to public light, why would they not formally interview the high school student and ask him for his cell phone records?

  • @theandroids
    @theandroids 4 місяці тому +1

    I don't think it was Sheldon, I think it was police related, Sheldon probably just tried to mimic the crime since someone got away with the first one. Because it's crazy how they couldn't find the perp in a small town. Cameras witnesses etc. 🤔

  • @J-ellO
    @J-ellO 6 місяців тому +9

    Annie I so love the interesting content you strive to bring to us! Most of all, I love your natural ability to make each story unique very interesting. Bravo girl you’re doing a great job.❤

  • @Paigeskar
    @Paigeskar 3 місяці тому

    Annie made it to Law & Crime?!! Kudos!!🎉

  • @jeniferallen1072
    @jeniferallen1072 5 місяців тому +1

    Love this channel and her!

  • @bethanybergeson4192
    @bethanybergeson4192 5 місяців тому +1

    There should only be one evil Sheldon in the world, and that is Sheldon Plankton.

  • @jennifertashik298
    @jennifertashik298 4 місяці тому

    Look at her growing from just a few months ago...so different when first started watching . Go girl...

  • @ilianacolston8070
    @ilianacolston8070 5 місяців тому +2

    Starts at 3:10 🙂

  • @sukai121
    @sukai121 6 місяців тому +16

    Love Annie Elise!!!

  • @3jallenl
    @3jallenl 5 місяців тому +2

    None of the males she had relations with(atleast 3) seem even the slightest bit grieved...

  • @candilease938
    @candilease938 5 місяців тому +1

    The texting with Lauren and just knowing her dad is the cop that was there the night she was found with the boy in her car then she made a report on the police department! I feel like someone from the police departments murdered that poor girl!

  • @gazoontight
    @gazoontight 6 місяців тому +1

    Lots more to the story than has been made public. That city is corrupt and dangerous. Fits in well with the rest of the county, though. Everyone is related to everyone else or knows them or went to school with them or worked with one of their relatives. It’s a real beauty of a place. Can’t sneeze without blowing snot on someone you shouldn’t cross.

  • @sherryknowles0811
    @sherryknowles0811 6 місяців тому +12

    Love Annie Elise & her line “MAKE IT MAKE SENSE” 👍🏻

    • @nadagabri5783
      @nadagabri5783 6 місяців тому +7

      so original 🙄

    • @gingersmith2888
      @gingersmith2888 6 місяців тому +5

      It’s not exactly HER line. Neither is “the math ain’t mathing.” No originality. None.

    • @PhilipMarcYT
      @PhilipMarcYT 6 місяців тому +1

      As if she came up with that phrase or it's even unique... No, many use that corny line now.

    • @sherryknowles0811
      @sherryknowles0811 6 місяців тому +3

      I don’t care who made it up I hear her say it…..SO SUE ME FOR INFRINGEMENT 😂😂😂😂

    • @MG-cd9ek
      @MG-cd9ek 6 місяців тому +1

      ​​@@gingersmith2888ginger it's weird you're commenting AGAIN. Clearly you dislike this woman and her podcast. Why ya here? It's weird.
      Most women who dislike beatiful well spoken women (who never did anything to YOU ) A woman who seems to have a beautiful life, husband, kids and family etc.. Are probably just jealous.
      Be better, do something to gain self esteem. Work out, get a job, find a nice partner, work harder... You women on here who dislike her are weird.
      Why you puttin even a second into making posts?
      Weird

  • @hollyobrien4665
    @hollyobrien4665 5 місяців тому +1

    I remember tos case, can't believe its still cold! Sheldon all day. Great job telling a very covoluted story! Well done.

  • @candilease938
    @candilease938 5 місяців тому

    THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER AMAZING VIDEO ANNIE!!! I LOVE YOU!

  • @shawnlanders2034
    @shawnlanders2034 6 місяців тому +9

    I Love Love Love you and your videos!!! Keep up the AWESOME work!!

  • @cryptobull4130
    @cryptobull4130 5 місяців тому

    I’ll never forget to give credit where credit is due because she was the first one with inside information with the Idaho 4 murders

  • @EpsiIonEagle
    @EpsiIonEagle 4 місяці тому

    I like this one. She’s great at telling stories

  • @gazoontight
    @gazoontight 6 місяців тому +2

    That “small town” is the second largest city in the county.

  • @libbyzg6611
    @libbyzg6611 5 місяців тому

    Great episode 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼your the best❤

  • @laurendanger2367
    @laurendanger2367 4 місяці тому +1

    Love the story, but you constantly looking at the tablet was very distracting.

  • @Helloskyyt321
    @Helloskyyt321 3 місяці тому

    Wow Annie on Law & Crime! You go girl

  • @LilyFlowers-hh3sc
    @LilyFlowers-hh3sc 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm signing a prenup for my fiancé. 10 out 10 people die from death. Money isn't everything and if you really love someone then it shouldn't matter. If my mom said anything i would tell her to get out of my life. Is the mom even marrying him? It was none of her business. This woman was so terrible and gross on so many levels.

  • @rileyscott5827
    @rileyscott5827 6 місяців тому +4

    I get the sense that this kid was infatuated with her and made up lies to get her to meet him for fake emergenies. She had poor judgment probably having to do with knowing everyone from such a young age. This kid probably did murder her and lied about having a relationship with her. Too bad she didn't leave this small town before all this happened. Seems like slim pickings and she's stunning.