It is been a while since your post. How far was the preserve from Bandelier? How long was the backcountry drive & was it appropriate for most cars? We will be visiting in 2 weeks & was going to make our way to Gilman Tunnels so wandering if we could fit this in
For current accurate information on road conditions and backcountry permits, contact the fine folks at the Park's ranger station. The phone number is on the Park website at the link below. A map of the Park, including the backcountry road and distance legend is available at the Park link below, using the 'Maps' on that page. Valles Caldera National Preserve on the National Park Service website: www.nps.gov/vall/index.htm Valles Caldera National Preserve is just under 20 miles from bandelier. This link is a Google map showing the distance between the two. www.google.com/maps/dir/Valles+Caldera+National+Preserve,+New+Mexico+4,+Jemez+Springs,+NM/Bandelier+Visitor+Center,+15+Entrance+Rd,+Los+Alamos,+NM+87544/@35.8112066,-106.3728208,11z/data=!4m8!4m7!1m2!1m1!1s0x87180b1dfcdf22d5:0x60d946385f759e8d!1m2!1m1!1s0x87186c693ad80d1f:0xca8f2ed6ce83bbba!3e0
Great video I have drove by the caldarea many times to cheep to pay for access. Lol You and Bill should take George to Valle Vidal it is above Cimarron. Took my morris mule up there a couple weeks ago it is a very beautiful place. One of my favorite places in New Mexico. The road is very washboard a perfect road for Murphy my trailer. I enjoy watching your videos in my opinion some of the best on the internet.
Wow. Thank you so much. Pretty awesome that you and Murphy went to Valle Vidal! It looks incredible. Valley Vidal is definately on our radar. We actually planned on going there this July, but due to concerns of fire related closures, we changed destinations.
Plague is transmitted by fleas from infected animals. We were not close to any of the animals. A zoom lens can make it appear that we were much closer than we were. The coyote footage was shot from inside the cab of the pickup. We saw no fleas. A good insect repellent should suffice if walking much in the preserve. (We carry/use 40% DEET) We were not concerned about contracting plague. We did not see any bears. We carry bear spray with us at all times when in areas like these - anywhere there may be a bear or other animal of concern. We work to be aware, educated and respectful of nature and conditions. I would go back in a heartbeat. ~Cris For those reading this comment thread... From the Valles Caldera website www.nps.gov/vall/planyourvisit/safety.htm on September 26, 2019. "Plague is endemic to the preserve. This disease is transmitted by fleas from infected animals. Do not feed or approach ground squirrels, prairie dogs, or other small mammals. Symptoms of bubonic plague include swelling lymph nodes and fever, usually developing 1 to 6 days after exposure. Untreated bubonic plague is fatal in about 50 percent of the cases."
@@wobblyotteroutdoors I'm not trying to create any panic or nervousness to the people wanting to visit the place but seeing fleas is kinda hard isn't it? As you stated in your comment, insect repellent will probably help. Thanks for the info about the bear repellent as well.
No worries, Asdfqwerty. Heh heh...So true. Yes, seeing fleas can be a challenge; especially in grass and stuff. Let me try that part again... We didn't experience any flea bites and didn't see any fleas on our shoes, clothes, skin, or on anything else we had with us. We didn't seem to make contact with any fleas. You're welcome for the info on the bear spray. I don't want to mislead anyone. Bear spray is not a repellent that is sprayed on to keep bears away. Instead you spray it at the face an approaching bear to turn it away. Bear spray contains stuff that hurts their eyes and noses. The spray has an effective range of 18 to 30 feet.
@@wobblyotteroutdoors lol I meant bear spray not repellent. 😄 Thanks for the info. I love the place btw One of the hidden gems that most travelers don't know about. Plus there's Forrest Fenn's booty hidden somewhere in there apparently.
Hi Greg. At this time there is no camping in Valles Caldera National Preserve. Camping is available in the nearby Bandelier National Monument and Santa Fe National Forest. www.nps.gov/vall/planyourvisit/camping.htm
When I was through there in June there were elk every where crossing the road, and around dusk, made for some dodgy driving. All of the National Forests in New Mexico were closed as I unfortunately found out after arriving having driven over 800 miles that day.
Very cool about the elk being everywhere. Kinda spooky about having to dodge them on the road... They are sooo big. Sorry the fires got in the way of your trip. You traveled a LONG way.
It is been a while since your post. How far was the preserve from Bandelier? How long was the backcountry drive & was it appropriate for most cars? We will be visiting in 2 weeks & was going to make our way to Gilman Tunnels so wandering if we could fit this in
For current accurate information on road conditions and backcountry permits, contact the fine folks at the Park's ranger station. The phone number is on the Park website at the link below. A map of the Park, including the backcountry road and distance legend is available at the Park link below, using the 'Maps' on that page.
Valles Caldera National Preserve on the National Park Service website: www.nps.gov/vall/index.htm
Valles Caldera National Preserve is just under 20 miles from bandelier. This link is a Google map showing the distance between the two.
www.google.com/maps/dir/Valles+Caldera+National+Preserve,+New+Mexico+4,+Jemez+Springs,+NM/Bandelier+Visitor+Center,+15+Entrance+Rd,+Los+Alamos,+NM+87544/@35.8112066,-106.3728208,11z/data=!4m8!4m7!1m2!1m1!1s0x87180b1dfcdf22d5:0x60d946385f759e8d!1m2!1m1!1s0x87186c693ad80d1f:0xca8f2ed6ce83bbba!3e0
So much wildlife and such beautiful country! Love it!❤️
It's one of our favorites! Thank you for watching.
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Shhh, I think I saw a tiger... no it's a Badger.... lmao
Love you too. Wonderful video. I was wondering about your campsite. Hope to see it in the next one.
Paul! Thank you. Definitely will see camp in the next video.
Great video I have drove by the caldarea many times to cheep to pay for access. Lol You and Bill should take George to Valle Vidal it is above Cimarron. Took my morris mule up there a couple weeks ago it is a very beautiful place. One of my favorite places in New Mexico. The road is very washboard a perfect road for Murphy my trailer. I enjoy watching your videos in my opinion some of the best on the internet.
Wow. Thank you so much. Pretty awesome that you and Murphy went to Valle Vidal! It looks incredible. Valley Vidal is definately on our radar. We actually planned on going there this July, but due to concerns of fire related closures, we changed destinations.
Doesn't this place have the plague? Was that a concern to you at all? Also what about the bears?
Plague is transmitted by fleas from infected animals. We were not close to any of the animals. A zoom lens can make it appear that we were much closer than we were. The coyote footage was shot from inside the cab of the pickup. We saw no fleas. A good insect repellent should suffice if walking much in the preserve. (We carry/use 40% DEET) We were not concerned about contracting plague. We did not see any bears. We carry bear spray with us at all times when in areas like these - anywhere there may be a bear or other animal of concern. We work to be aware, educated and respectful of nature and conditions. I would go back in a heartbeat. ~Cris
For those reading this comment thread...
From the Valles Caldera website www.nps.gov/vall/planyourvisit/safety.htm on September 26, 2019.
"Plague is endemic to the preserve. This disease is transmitted by fleas from infected animals. Do not feed or approach ground squirrels, prairie dogs, or other small mammals. Symptoms of bubonic plague include swelling lymph nodes and fever, usually developing 1 to 6 days after exposure. Untreated bubonic plague is fatal in about 50 percent of the cases."
@@wobblyotteroutdoors I'm not trying to create any panic or nervousness to the people wanting to visit the place but seeing fleas is kinda hard isn't it? As you stated in your comment, insect repellent will probably help. Thanks for the info about the bear repellent as well.
No worries, Asdfqwerty. Heh heh...So true. Yes, seeing fleas can be a challenge; especially in grass and stuff. Let me try that part again... We didn't experience any flea bites and didn't see any fleas on our shoes, clothes, skin, or on anything else we had with us. We didn't seem to make contact with any fleas. You're welcome for the info on the bear spray. I don't want to mislead anyone. Bear spray is not a repellent that is sprayed on to keep bears away. Instead you spray it at the face an approaching bear to turn it away. Bear spray contains stuff that hurts their eyes and noses. The spray has an effective range of 18 to 30 feet.
@@wobblyotteroutdoors lol I meant bear spray not repellent. 😄 Thanks for the info. I love the place btw One of the hidden gems that most travelers don't know about. Plus there's Forrest Fenn's booty hidden somewhere in there apparently.
Any camping areas in there?
Hi Greg. At this time there is no camping in Valles Caldera National Preserve. Camping is available in the nearby Bandelier National Monument and Santa Fe National Forest. www.nps.gov/vall/planyourvisit/camping.htm
Learn the pronounciation of "Valles."
When I was through there in June there were elk every where crossing the road, and around dusk, made for some dodgy driving. All of the National Forests in New Mexico were closed as I unfortunately found out after arriving having driven over 800 miles that day.
Very cool about the elk being everywhere. Kinda spooky about having to dodge them on the road... They are sooo big. Sorry the fires got in the way of your trip. You traveled a LONG way.
MrWinger1951 I made sure I drove slow. It was stunning & the Elk were Majestic & Amazing! Slow down folks! What’s your hurry 👍🏼