Synology DSM 7.1 and Unofficial Memory - SECOND TEST! THEY DO WORK!

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  • @marcwizard8749
    @marcwizard8749 2 роки тому +8

    I was cautiously concerned when I updated my 920+ to 7.1 as the Timetec 8GB Memory had been working. Thankfully no issues, and I ran the Synology Memory Test to be sure it was not going to throw any flags. Thanks NASC for your past advice and continued support!

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  2 роки тому +5

      Thanks Marc Wizard (SOLID username btw!). Not sure if I will make a third and final video in this series - depends on the reaction to this + if I can find out more on what truly 100% caused the killswitch style shit downs in the previous video. Regardless, thanks you for comments, for watching and for sharing your setup with others. Go have a bloody nice weekend mate

  • @raulfuentescorante
    @raulfuentescorante 2 роки тому +6

    I installed the Timetec 16GB DDR4 2666MHz PC4-21300 Non-ECC Unbuffered 1.2V CL19 2Rx8 Dual Rank 260 Pin SODIMM memory in my DS220+ and it recognized it without any problem, the memory review took just over 7 hours and had no problems, my DSM version: 7.1-42661.
    Thank you very much @NASCompares for this analysis. Greetings from Mexico

    • @TG09
      @TG09 2 роки тому +1

      I am going to get a Kingston 16GB stick, let me know if all is going well with yours.

    • @dimazputra6868
      @dimazputra6868 Рік тому

      @@TG09 is okay using kingstone?

    • @TG09
      @TG09 Рік тому

      @@dimazputra6868 yep no issue for me so far

  • @williamrgrant
    @williamrgrant 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for this!
    Upgraded my 921+ with the 16GB TimeTec module.
    My many docker containers and web pages load so fast now!!

  • @ianvanede7466
    @ianvanede7466 2 роки тому +3

    Bought the Crucial 16gb yesterday, and it’s in. And WORKING!👌🏻 DS920+

  • @shred3005
    @shred3005 2 роки тому +5

    I’ve just installed the same TimeTec 16GB RAM on my 920+ and it’s working just fine. First boot was quick (not much more than a minute for all solid green lights) and the RAM is showing in Info Centre.
    The standard 4GB at idle I’d often see the RAM use around 27% with the NAS just sitting there at idle with a few network devices attached. Now RAM use is 4% at idle so plenty of headroom. I’ll have to load it with some tasks to test it under load.
    This video gave me the confidence to do the upgrade.

  • @briancole1887
    @briancole1887 2 роки тому +1

    I held off on updating my DS920+ due to previous video and just updated successfully after watching this video (Timetec 8G). Thanks for the follow up and all the great work you do!

  • @alphacharlie1127
    @alphacharlie1127 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you for your great work!
    I installed a Kingston 8GB (KCP432SS8/8) into my 420+ and am pleased to report, that it is working.
    One curious observation is that the memory graph in the "Resource Monitor" is stuck at 5% utilisation while the "Memory Composition" bar more informatively shows the allocation of the 2+8GB RAM. When I copied a 20GB file from the 420+ to my laptop, the "Cached" segment went up to 8.9GB at one time. Hope that demonstrates the 420+ / Celeron could handle and make use of >8GB RAM.

  • @feistyfinn9365
    @feistyfinn9365 Рік тому +1

    I had the Timetec 76TT26NUS2R8-16G dual rank 16GB stick installed in my DS920+ running DSM 7.1 for a week now without issue. Passed the ram check overnight also.

  • @GeoffIX
    @GeoffIX 2 роки тому +2

    Fantastic! Seeing this gave me the confidence to proceed with a DSM7.0.1 to DSM7.1 update on my DS920+ with 16GB Crucial memory upgrade (total 20GB).
    Success! Previous recognition was a good indicator of future recognition (within reasonable limits of probability). Ta!

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  2 роки тому +1

      No worries man. Cheers for sharing your experience buddy!

    • @GeoffIX
      @GeoffIX 2 роки тому +1

      @@nascompares FYI, Synology Assistant initiated Memory Test on the DS920+ with 20GB memory took a bit over 3 hours. No problems reported with the Crucial CT16G4SFD8266 😀

    • @s0041464
      @s0041464 10 місяців тому +1

      @@GeoffIX are you running the 4GB pre-installed and the 16GB? I've just come here and found out I can install more than 8GB even though nothing on Synology site suggests I can

  • @jodajackson4489
    @jodajackson4489 2 роки тому +5

    Outstanding video mate. Very informative and one can imagine not the easiest to do. Not to criticize mind you, but it seems as if the RAM swaps were done with NAS power leads intact. It seemed to work fine if that is indeed the case but perhaps not something one would recommended to the unwashed masses,…
    Either way 2 thumbs up. Keep up the good work👍🏽

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  2 роки тому +5

      You are 100% correct! Same as my handling of the sticks. Although I do highlight that I am perhaps being a bit roughshod with how I handle the sticks, I definitely should of also highlighted disconnecting the power + the subject of static. Thanks for keeping me on the straight and narrow mate

  • @skystink
    @skystink Рік тому

    Please make a video regarding the long-term effects! Of course I would be very happy to see only a short video as I hope there are no failures despite long-term usage.

  • @AutisticEnderman
    @AutisticEnderman 2 роки тому

    I have the following all running 7.1 with 3rd party memory installed...rs3614xs+, rs2416+, rs18017xs+, ds2415+ and ds2419+. The ds2419+ is 1st gen and runs 32GB even though official support is 6GB - it does complain about non-Synology memory but is used 24/7 with virtual machines, camera feeds and TimeMachine without any issues. All have been upgraded from 6.x versions through to the latest 7.1 over time.

  • @TopDog8762
    @TopDog8762 2 роки тому +1

    Wow that original video was pretty good. This one, far more comprehensive. Thanks

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  2 роки тому +1

      Tbh I dropped the ball a bit on the last vid with thinking too much about filming in an uncut recording (to show it's authenticity) and then not having patience. I needed to address this better this time around. Cheers for watching mate

  • @ZbigniewKos
    @ZbigniewKos 2 роки тому +2

    I upgraded my 1821+ to 7.1 today and it runs with no issues on "unofficial" 2x Crucial 32GB = 64GB ECC memory (so twice the max. oficially supported size of 2x16GB).

  • @kennijh
    @kennijh 2 роки тому +1

    16GB of Crucial memory (2x8GB) in my DS1019+ running latest DSM (7.1 Update 2), no errors or warnings.
    (Edit for memory type) - Crucial CT102464BF186D 8GB memory (DDR3, 1866 MT / s, PC3-14900, SODIMM, 204-pin)

  • @skystink
    @skystink Рік тому

    Awesome and very sincere work as always - Thank you so much. It annoys me that some users here accuse you of being a Synology no-unofficial RAM fanboy (33:23)

  • @razzledazzle84921
    @razzledazzle84921 Рік тому +1

    If you replace the memory with an unofficial stick, you apparently void your warranty. Does the NAS remember that it had unofficial memory in it, if you swapped back in the official stick while still in warranty?

  • @HoeleeProperty
    @HoeleeProperty 2 роки тому +4

    DS920+ with 20GB ram very stable

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  2 роки тому +1

      Cheers for sharing buddy. Ok to confirm the memory manf/type? Cheers

  • @RegCoulter
    @RegCoulter Рік тому

    My understanding of RAM use, is that when you upgrade, it is advisable to use equal sized modules in each slot. It is also important, when adding a different sized RAM module, to ensure that it’s specification match those of the module already installed. Have I misunderstood this?

  • @Mark-is9dx
    @Mark-is9dx 2 роки тому +1

    Bought the crucial 16GB Module, and inserted it into my brand new 920+. I couldn't get it to boot up, removed it and all was well.... but a it miffed I couldn't get the ram to work. I saw this video and thought it I may be able to get it to work, but no such luck. I just keep getting the flashing blue light. In this state, how do you get the NAS to close down other than doing what you were doing.... ie holding down the power button until it switches off.

  • @KateMikhailova
    @KateMikhailova Рік тому +1

    920+ DSM 7.1.1-42962 upd2: Crucial CT16G43FRA266 (16Gb) didn't work, NAS couldn't start. I downgraded system to 7.0.1.-42218 upd5 - Crucial module still didn't work. So I changed Crucial module to Kingston KCP426SD8/16 (16Gb). Boot process successfully finished after 2-3 min, Kingston module works fine. Upgrade to 7.1.1-42962 upd2 also finished well.

    • @guymanitoba3347
      @guymanitoba3347 Рік тому

      I just tried same model but 8GB one and didn't work :(

    • @KateMikhailova
      @KateMikhailova Рік тому

      @@guymanitoba3347Did you try Crucial or Kingston?

    • @isbluesky1
      @isbluesky1 Рік тому

      Does the kingston 16GB ram still work in the 7.1.1 update 4? Or do you still have the upd2?

    • @KateMikhailova
      @KateMikhailova Рік тому

      @@isbluesky1 DSM 7.1.1-42962 Update 4 - module and nas work normally

    • @isbluesky1
      @isbluesky1 Рік тому

      ​@@KateMikhailova I see, what's the ram that works called?

  • @colincampbell3819
    @colincampbell3819 Рік тому

    I was able to upgrade my DS923+ (DSM 7.1.1-42962 Update 4) with 32gb for $150 using A-Tech 32GB (2x16GB) RAM Replacement for Synology D4ECSO-2666-16G, D4ES01-16G | DDR4 2666MHz PC4-21300 ECC SODIMM

  • @IntoxicatedVortex
    @IntoxicatedVortex 2 роки тому +1

    And this is exactly the reason why I pay close attention to Synology's compatibility HDD/SSD lists. While everything seems to have work out fine here and the "right way" for RAM compatibility, the implications of it not having done so are very different to if that were the case for drives. For RAM you can put back the original memory and still operate, albeit in a limited capacity if you need the additional memory, especially if you're well above the stated maximum. For drives though, the moment Synology decides that "oh we don't do that no more" or "the compatibility list is clearly stated" can be massively problematic. One's drives aren't something that we can simply take out and put in something else.
    It's all well and good that people on the internet saying things are fine but at the end of the day they're not the ones covering your warranty nor fixing/dealing with your problem. Granted my perspective is probably skewed as I often deal with businesses. That said, I often find individuals are far more susceptible to incompatibility issues as their budgets are often more constrained.
    Memory is usually an easy fix, drives are usually not.

    • @christophmuller3511
      @christophmuller3511 Рік тому

      Ultimately Synology is just manufacturing Linux systems, so every drive supported by Linux will work (which is basically everything on the market). They have to put extra engineering effort in to remove drive support which would be a marketing disaster. The compatibility list only means that they actively test the hardware so that you are 100% guaranteed that it will work.

  • @seansquires4416
    @seansquires4416 2 роки тому

    this works on my ds2422+
    Kingston ME KSM26SED8 16HD 16GB 2666MHz DDR4 ECC CL19 SODIMM 2Rx8 Hynix D RTL

  • @connect1410
    @connect1410 2 роки тому +3

    Waiting for complete system boot is CRUCIAL ;) In enterprise enviroment when you cross 2TB RAM you have to be patient.....................

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  2 роки тому +1

      Yep, totally know that now! Still trying to figure out for certain what kept causing the auto-off in several of the tests in the last vid. The closest arguement so far is poor boot cycles from forcing the shutdown between tests... but even then, it's u conclusive

  • @arash7even
    @arash7even 2 роки тому

    Interesting! I have question about PS5 hdmi bandwidth which is 32gbps! Do you think Hardware wise Sony can uncapped the signal to 48gbps for 12bit 4.4.4? Since many people dont know to go with cheaper C1 G1 (40gbps hdmi) or C2 G2 which support 48gbps hmid bandwidth!

  • @giziol84
    @giziol84 8 місяців тому

    Compatibile Kingston memory modules works too

  • @davidpeters7447
    @davidpeters7447 2 роки тому +6

    32 Gb of Arch memory with no warnings or issues on a DS1821+

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  2 роки тому +2

      Cheers for sharing bud. What's the system and model ID? Will help others + I can update the page etc. Cheers man

    • @davidpeters7447
      @davidpeters7447 2 роки тому +1

      @@nascompares Arch Memory for Synology D4ECSO-2666-16G 16GB DDR4-2666 260-Pin ECC Sodimm RAM on DS1821+ running DSM 7.1

  • @michaelpaver3788
    @michaelpaver3788 2 роки тому

    When I saw the title screen, I was momentarily confused because the most recent edition is only DSM 5. Then I realized what channel I was on and that this probably isn’t a video about the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  2 роки тому +2

      It's an easy mistake...I get it alot... Sometimes just from people who bump into me... Apparently I just make people think of mental disorders.... Odd that...
      ..THE CHICKENS!!!

  • @ultraporthos6884
    @ultraporthos6884 Рік тому

    I ordered the Timetec 4GB module and installed and when I checked the total it was saying 20GB! I checked the package the module it came in and it said 4GB. Then after further examination, it showed that the sticker that said 4GB was on top of another sticker. I peeled it off and looked at it......I was sent a 16GB, not 4GB! So that worked out in my favor. Somehow it got mislabeled. I only paid for the 4GB. BTW: it works fine, no issues.

  • @jacoblaursen5398
    @jacoblaursen5398 2 роки тому +2

    I have bought Crucial CT8G4SFRA266 8gb ram. (Single rank) It seems to not work on DS420+ with version: 7.1-42661 update 4 Or have I bought the wrong memory? i have this ram running around 1 hour nothing happens.

    • @raul77him
      @raul77him Рік тому +1

      HI I have the same issue with the same Ram model on my DS220+. Were you able to solve this issue?

  • @davidniquot6423
    @davidniquot6423 2 роки тому

    16 Gb Crucial CT16G4SFD824A here, no problem on 7.1 release 3.

    • @DawidCylke
      @DawidCylke 2 роки тому +1

      How much time did your first boot take?

  • @DavidM2002
    @DavidM2002 9 місяців тому

    FYI, I installed a 16 GB Kingston KVR26S19S8/16 in my DS920+ running DSM 7.2 and my NAS would not boot. YMMV.

  • @dividedsky
    @dividedsky 2 роки тому

    Have you ever tested G.Skill SO-DIMMs? Especially on a DS418Play? I'm looking at a set F3-1866C11D-16GRSL which have CL11-11-11-32 1.35v specs and wondering if it will work. They appear to be dual rank chips

    • @dividedsky
      @dividedsky 2 роки тому

      Just going to answer my own question here. Have installed these in the DS418Play and instantly recognized without any difficulty. Ran the full Memtest and it reports as passed (took about 5+ hours for the test to run). One thing I wish I could tell is if it's Dual Rank via Synology. I tried using sudo dmidecode --type 17 but the result just said Rank: Unkown. Anyone know of a way to verify single or dual rank one the installed memory of Synology?

  • @kotolows
    @kotolows Рік тому

    I have DS1821+ with 10Gbs network card. Running 6x 12TB discs in RAID6. I edit videos and pictures on the NAS.
    I am running 2x 4GB of official Synology RAM. I am tempted to upgrade to 2x 16 GB of unofficial. I have two questions:
    1. Will my warranty be void when using unofficial RAM?
    2. Can anyone detail performance increase when going from 8 to 32 GB in my usage scenario?

  • @r3vd4wg18
    @r3vd4wg18 2 роки тому

    Samsung M474A4G43AB1 works just fine in the DS2422+ and 64GB too and DSM 7.1

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  2 роки тому +1

      Cheers for sharing your setup + success with others man. Appreciated

  • @marcwizard8749
    @marcwizard8749 2 роки тому

    Could not having each NAS filled with a full compliment of Drives effect whether the Memory under test is accepted and operates? Just curious...

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  2 роки тому

      It's a reasonable point, but I don't think it would. Plus it's too much of a random variable that would result in mixed/unreliable results. Cheers for thinking of stuff though man

  • @brianli406
    @brianli406 2 роки тому

    I installed a SAMSUNG M471A2K43CB1-CTD 16GB 2666V (made in China) into the DS220+, but it did not work. The NAS keeps flashing the blue lights for more than 20 mins. I guess not all the RAM are supported.

  • @chickennugget3362
    @chickennugget3362 2 роки тому

    I use Synology 4GB DDR4 ECC Unbuffered SO-DIMM
    in my 920+. It's recommended for RS1221RP+, RS1221+, DS1821+, DS1621+.
    I know they recommend non-EEC in the 920 but seems to work ok. Anyone know if this is ok?

  • @kelvinhon1986
    @kelvinhon1986 2 роки тому

    I am using Ds418play, whatever which brand of RAM I am using, it will not boot up..........

  • @drMegane73
    @drMegane73 2 роки тому

    I have an DS1618+ with one Crucial RAM CT16G4SFD824A...
    I don't know if i can or i can't update to DSM 7.1...

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  2 роки тому

      Tbh if you are unsure, then hold fire for now. So far I have made two videos on it and although the most recent one was 100% successful, the first one for a couple of weeks ago did raise a couple of doubts that I'm not 100% on. Frankly, there's an incredibly high chance that you will be fine to continue with that stick, but I cannot say 100%. Ultimately it comes down to you choosing between that memory sticks cost/value in $/productivity and the cost of running a setup without the latest firmware (security etc). Sorry I can't be more helpful at the minute mate.

    • @drMegane73
      @drMegane73 2 роки тому

      @@nascompares I have just update my NAS to DSM 7.1. No problem with RAM. 😊

  • @saadaor
    @saadaor 2 роки тому

    What about ds720+ ram upgrade? Is all list supported?

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  2 роки тому

      It runs the same CPU as the DS920+, so should be the same results. Hope that helps man

    • @shbjo
      @shbjo 2 роки тому

      Installed an 8GB Crucial CT8G4SFRA32A module in my DS720+. Works great.
      Tried a Kingston 16GB KCP426SS8/16 but it wont boot. Just a blue flashing light.

  • @TeleStratman
    @TeleStratman 4 місяці тому

    € 382 for 16GB Synology memory or € 65 for 16GB budget memory..... No brainer

  • @RJ_Cormac
    @RJ_Cormac 2 роки тому

    You're the only guy purchasing 2GB RAM sticks 😂

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  2 роки тому +1

      Don't think it didn't chuffing KILL ME pressing the buy button...

    • @RJ_Cormac
      @RJ_Cormac 2 роки тому

      @@nascompares not even good for set decoration! 🤣

  • @RedBearAK
    @RedBearAK 2 роки тому

    To be fair to you, who would think that an electronic device that operates at billions of operations per second would take 15 minutes to be configured. And there is the question of why you didn’t seem to ever run into this prior to DSM 7.1. Without testing with the exact same revision that was used before there is no way to know if they updated something to mitigate the issue.

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  2 роки тому

      All very good points. I must of updated more than 50 NAS devices across 10-12 variants of memory (plus my old days at an eShop when they would do unofficial memory upgrades for NAS users) and never encounter the slow boot. It seems to be more of an outlier/rare case that I've missed all this time, but forums etc suggest it is an occasional occurrence. Cheers for watching man

  • @RustedFaith
    @RustedFaith 2 роки тому

    Hi, can anyone tell me which one is better? QNAP TS-469 Pro or Synology DS1512+, will appreciate help, thanks in advance.

  • @nigelbarrett4936
    @nigelbarrett4936 2 роки тому

    Thanks for this update, your last video had me worried about updating DSM. I have a DS220+ which I have just updated to DSM 7.1.42661 and my 4GB Crucial memory is working perfectly. Model number CT4G4SFS8266.C8FF

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  2 роки тому

      No worries man. Still trying to isolate what caused the shut downs in the last video and got it narrowed down to a few things. Also, thabks for sharing your setup with others. You rock! Have a great weekend buddy