Food Storage: Does a Mylar Bag or Number 10 Can Provide the Longest Shelf Life for Dry Goods?
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Do Mylar bags have the same long shelf life provided by number 10 cans? This is a great question posed by James, one of our viewers. I just happened to have a Mylar bag and a number 10 can of dehydrated carrots that were packaged in 1999.
In this video, we open the dehydrated carrots and compare the results.
An inexpensive place to purchase basic dry goods in #10 cans ready for storage is at a Home Storage Center operated by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints providentlivin...
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An inexpensive place to purchase basic dry goods in #10 cans ready for storage is at a Home Storage Center operated by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints providentliving.churchofjesuschrist.org/food-storage/home-storage-center-locations-map?lang=eng
A wide variety of dry goods packaged in #10 cans may be purchased from Augason Farms alnk.to/4fNe8W9
Quality Mylar bags and oxygen absorbers can be purchased from Wallaby Goods bit.ly/3fmgEqD. Use the promo code PROVIDENT5 for $5 off.
Learn more about storing dry goods long-term at TheProvidentPrepper.org
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Packaging Dry Foods in Glass Jars for Long Term Food Storage
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How to Package Dry Foods in Mylar Bags for Long Term Storage
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How to Safely Use Oxygen Absorbers to Extend the Shelf Life of Long-Term Food Storage
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If you read the ingredient labels they are not the same. The ones packaged in Mylar are simply carrots. The ones packaged in the can have added sugar and corn starch. The carrots in Mylar remind me of the carrots I dehydrate in my home dehydrator. Even immediately after they do not rehydrate all that well. I’ve taken to freeze drying all of my veggies.
Great catch!
Thank you so much for doing this test! We have only been prepping for 16 years and we have noticed the same thing - food degrades slower in #10 cans than they do in mylar. My parents and my wife's parents have also been storing/rotating through their food storage since the 80s. They made mistakes about how they stored their food but didn't realize some of their expectations were false until years later. I hope we can help each other learn from our mistakes. I worry that a bunch of us are putting a lot of time/effort/money into putting food away in mylar (or other methods) with the expectation that they'll last 2-3 decades when in reality they won't last that long. Let's keep these tests coming!
I have noticed that freeze dried carrots are much brighter than dehydrated carrots. Also, adding a little baking soda in the blanching process will keep vegetables, bright and appealing then those not treated.
I purchased a vintage #10 can sealer on Facebook market last year. Unfortunately, I can’t find any #10 cans/lids! I know LDS used to sell them however, not anymore.😢
The #10 is a no brainer in my opinion, especially if you don’t want to rotate all the time. Thanks!
Good test video. Unfortunately we must use what we have. I wouldn't be picky if I were hungry.
Maybe add a bit more water? Or even throw the harder ones in a stew ant let them cook.
It’s really amazing the canned ones look so good! I can think of several variables that could have affected these results. If the carrots were from the same batch they might have absorbed more atmospheric moisture during the month between packing in the can and packing in the Mylar. Humidity on Mylar day could have been higher. Also, the nitrogen/co2 flush would have purged any moist air out of the can in addition to the oxygen, which wouldn’t have happened with the o2 absorber/Mylar situation.
By the looks of the carrots, the #10 can were apparently dried using a freeze dryer. The bagged carrots were simply dried out by using a dehydrator. Imo, not a true comparison.
Results were exactly what I expected. :-)
Thank you! Awesome test!!!
There may be a different reaction with different gases (CAN 10 - CO2 and Maylar - N2)
Maylar - does not have 100% barrier properties unlike steel.
My best Maylar packaging recipe:
1. I use two layers of paper bags (for breakfast)
2. Add an oxygen absorber
3. Add a bag of 4 ounces of salt (when absorbing oxygen, moisture can dew out and wet the product, I have seen this!)
4. Vacuuming Maylar (using spacer from ZIP packages
5. In addition, I wrap the Maylar with a PET-packet and vacuum again.
Great video, thanks Jonathan and Kylene. Happy trails!
That is a great test! You talked about how buying from the LDS Home Storage has great prices which they do but it can look expensive because the price is for six cans not one. Also, you do not have to be LDS to buy from them.
Love you guys!😊
I just asked myself this question and here is your video! uncanny - (no pun intended)
Excellent content. I too purchase from LDS Food Storage Center here in Ogden, Utah but it’s been the #10 cans. I also purchased Wallaby Mylar Bags at your recommendation recently as I plan on using the #10 as Long Term Storage and Mylar as midrange storage times for rice, beans , sugar and some other as well as store them in plastic food grade bins. In the month of November our frivolous food cost spending skyrocketed according to my financial analysis plus my Sprite intake was off the charts. In the month of December, so far so good, I’m doing better at our purchases of everyday foods, rotating our canned foods and stopped my soft drink purchases all together. I’m hoping it will save in both finances and weight gain. It’s crazy how I am addicted to Sprite but my filter berkey water with some stevia and flavor drops has me not cringing so bad when drinking. This is my evolution and strategy. Once again great content
@@TheProvidentPrepper , great idea. I had weight loss surgery and lost 230 lbs and my only vice was All Sugar Sprite.
Anyway, my weight loss surgery eliminated my diabetes, high blood pressure, cholesterol, kidney disease and bladder disease. But I love Sprite and gained back 30 but I’ve lost 5 since being off soft drinks so my plan is working. My doctor is ticked off. Oh. We got two Jase Case because of your channel. Keep making these suggestions as you are spot on
Thanks very good info.
Great video guys, thanks!
Not surprised. Thanks for the very fair and honest comparison
I don't think that's a good comparison since the #10 can has preservatives in it, sugar and corn starch.
@@kenf8563 the point is to preserve food for the future. Preservatives are not evil and sugar is a natural food. I definitely want to enjoy stored food that is flavorful and contains nutrients. Cheers
Never did I diss the sugar and cornstarch and far as I'm concerned, they're really not a preservative and definitely not a nutrient. Thanks for playing!
👍🏻 the carrots out of the can look fabulous. It’s quite interesting that they preserved so well. I just got my freeze dryer up and running and will be wanting to properly package. I’ve never really used the Mylar bags and have insecurities about them (we are not immune to the occasional mouse😖 I’m obsessive about critter proofing EVERYTHING! I was just given 180 canning jars (from someone who inherited them and has no desire to use them) on top of the hundreds and hundreds I already have. If you keep them in the dark and in a dry, climate controlled environment, in your opinion, how do you think they would stack up in this competition?
I have to add that the Family Home Storage centers (LDS) are SO worth looking up. We go to the nearest one which is a 90 minute drive, to pad our storage. Peace of mind!
The air was not all sucked out of the bag that's what it looks like to me
Good video , thanks for sharing , God bless !
I have most of my basic dry goods stored in #10 cans purchased from the LDS Home Storage Center (what a Godsend the people who make that possible are!) I have discovered putting other goods in my Harvest Right Freeze Dryer and then packing into clean Quart Mason jars and then using both a chamber vacuum sealer and an O2 absorber on the jars.
After 1.5 years the jarred product looks and tastes like new - of course I store them away from light and as much as possible protected from breakage - as a bonus one quart of many products is a perfect "one meal" serving size.
Thanks for this video.
Thank you for this review.
I see a lot of carrot cake and carrot pudding in your future.
I am a few year beginner to Mylar. At this point I only use it for rice, oats pasta.
Excellent question!
I purchased 2 boxes of crackers, baking mixes, etc. from an auction of a preppers home. He had everything in buckets, no mylar at all. He removed the brown bagged crackers from box, dated them and placed in buckets. They were from 2017 and are store brand knock offs similar to Ritz. Surprisingly, they were almost as fresh as new ones off of the shelf. Other crackers in a more clear colored bag tasted old or off. The bag was thinner and not waxey feeling like the others. Packaged mixes were fine. Not optimal storage techniques, but surprising results. Image if some absorbers had been in the bucket they may have all been ok.
I'm starting to sour on #10 cans since it seems like at 20-30% of the cans I buy have dents in them. I bought a case of.6 just recently from Costco and 4/6 had dents!! Pouches are also more convenient to use in small quantities and don't even require a bowl to eat. Just put the pouches in hard plastic storage bins and Vermin won't get to them.
If I’m buying food the number 10 can versus mylar would be a no-brainer. But most people, if you’re doing it yourself have no other choice but to use Mylar. I think if you use the Mylar with oxygen absorbers in a bucket that is sealed, that’s going to be your best at home option IMO.
What a difference! You said there was a little puff in your bag, is it possible there was some moisture in the carrots when you packaged them? I use a moisture meter now. I did throw away a bag of beets and a bag of mushrooms because the bags had puffed. The moisture meter helps a lot, you can buy them on Amazon, you do have to change the metal pointers out after awhile. Good video👍
Thanks for this. If you live in a climate with a lot of humidity, #10 cans tend to rust. I had a friend lose wheat in a #10 can that started to rust. I live in the South and use glass jars vacuum sealed if possible.
I had mylar in a sealed tote and rodents got into them by eating through the plastic heavy duty tote. Mylar was eaten through as well. Destroyed everything. Now I only store in glass and tin.
We experienced the same thing, lost hundreds of dollars worth of food in Mylar bags, it was incredibly disheartening as it was our first attempt at prepping.
Store bags in a good metal trash can . Rats can’t chew thru metal . Plastic is too soft . Waste of time
Good info and very timely. Thanks for this video!
What a valuable video!
Thanks for doing this.
I wonder at what year the Mylar packed ones start to look noticeably different. Very interesting.
exactly Id prob venture to say use the mylar in a 10-12 yr period vs 20+ plus were they freeze dried or dehydrated? thats a difference as well
Great video...I personally prefer the #10 cans. My question, can LDS #10 cans be stored in a garage in the Northeast? It's dry, dark and cold, I am concerned if temps go below 20 degrees. I realize in summer, it would have to be relocated. You're both terrific!
Thank you
I saw a video on vacume sealing mylar bags with oxygen absorber
Consider the quality of the carrots also. were they from the same batch/lot number, garden?
This was great to see.Thank you guys for doing.Jinne @Homestead Corner says she doesn’t like the taste of flour after it’s been in mylar.I don’t have any but wondering what your thoughts are.Love the look on your faces!Genuine
We chose six months of all base materials in #10 (or smaller, in the case of meats) cans. Rodents are our biggest worry.
I wonder if there is a can sealer for smaller cans that is less expensive than the number 10 cans. I hate to open a number 10 with just me in the house. Therefore I use jars.
If push came to shove you would and could still eat the bagged carrots. It’s about survival right? If they where my only option they would be eaten no doubt. Great video.
I think you are right, Mylar works great just rotate it. We have more cans than Mylar.
Thanks guys, good comparison. I wonder what the mylar food would look like in 10 years?
There is a channel that compares different products for freeze drying and checks their different qualities. I wonder how packaging in jars compares.
@@TheProvidentPrepper That was my thought. I keep mine in a dark cool room. I like that I can check on the seals off and on but with the Mylar there is no way to know if there is a pinhole.
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Great video! I prefer freeze dried over dehydrated for taste and maintaining flavor. I wonder if that makes a difference as well with long term storage? Thank you for sharing! Blessings to all. 🌼
That was interesting. Dehydrated food is not generally supposed to last that long, and yet it did. I guess it shows that commercial dehydration does a much better job that my home dehydrator. I have LDS canned food. Up in Canada there is a limited selection so you do need other food to supplement. My freeze dried food is all in mylar with oxygen absorbers. Other stuff in packaged for long term are in mylar with OA if appropriate. I think my older FD is about 18 years old so I guess I need to go and check iy
The mylar bag wasn't shrunken up which makes me think the O2 absorber was not working. (?)
It clearly looks as if the 2 dehydrated carrots were preserved using different methods. The #10 can appears to be freeze dried which retains the color, shape, and nutrients of the carrots. The carrots in the mylar bag were dehydrated using a dehydrator or other method of drying out the carrots. Therefore, since the drying methods were not the same, the comparison of can vs bag, is not a true comparison.
@@TheProvidentPrepper If the canned carrots were dehydrated with a dehydrator, the carrots would not have retained their shape and color as they do in a freeze dryer. Food shrivels up in a dehydrator. Have u ever used a freeze dryer or a dehydrator? If not, of course, u can find results online.
@@CT-od9hr , I've watched enough videos from The Provident Preppers to know that they own two freeze driers and at least one dehydrator so they definitely know what you're referring to. What they're saying is that this test was comparing dehydrated vs dehydrated (neither batch was freeze dried). The main variable difference was one batch was stored in a #10 can and the other batch was stored in a mylar bag. This example and other testimonials from veteran-preppers (who have been storing these two different methods) seem to be proving out that food degrades slower in #10 cans than they do in mylar.
@@TheProvidentPrepper Not convinced. I suggest that u leave the canned carrots exposed to air and see if they shrivel up like the bagged carrots.
Im curious as to how Mylar bags placed in food buckets with gamma seals would compare.
Well i just ordered a buttload of Wallaby mylar bags! What was the quality or thickness of the bag in this demo?
Maybe the answer is to vacuum seal AND use oxygen absorbers?
I’m wondering if the whole freeze drying process has improved in all that time🤔
Does the LDS place sell food in #10 cans? I still have never dehydrated or canned any food myself. I have some dried beans and rice in mylar bags now though. Thank you for your help!
I am confused. I think if they had the oxygen pulled out 2 different ways then how do we know it is the can vs the mylar or which is the best way to take the oxygen out of the air to keep them the freshest. If I remember right you were not sure how they took the air out.
I have heard people can store. Their foods in no. 10 cans. But nobody ever shows how
There are too many variables to consider between the #10 can vs Mylar bag, nitrogen flush vs. O2 absorber and not enough sampling size. The comparison between dehydrated and freeze dried foods is like comparing apples to oranges.
I'm currently considering purchasing some #10 cans of carrots from LDS. As I looked at the picture on their website it looked a lot like your hard carrots. Now I'm not sure what to do. Has anyone opened a can of LDS carrots purchased in the last few years and if so, what did it look like?
@@TheProvidentPrepper Thanks for the response, that makes me feel more confident in the upcoming purchase. May you and your family have a very merry Christmas and a very happy New Year.
I am a single 70-year old male, a widower, so all my efforts for emergency preparation are geared towards "single serving" quantities thereby eliminating concerns for refrigeration of leftovers. I live alone.
I have no expectations to expand my household.
When you attempt to re-preserve in mylar you are denigrating any factory preservation measures which raises questions about the long term integrity of the food product. Some folks remove product from cans to seal in mylar, dumb. Think first then think again. Storage in fridges and freezers is another short sighted storage method.
My husband’s plan if I die? He is 72. He asked me to buy a whole lot of baggies. He will open five or more cans at a time and store dried food in baggies to “make meals”. He likes the cans for long term and baggies for short term. “I did it in college, I can do it again!”
which is good for long storage Mylar or Tin can?
Both Mylar and #10 cans are great. #10 cans are perfect because they create a little time capsule. Mylar is a close second if they are heat sealed and stored in a sealed bucket or tote 😊
@@TheProvidentPrepper thank you so much for your valuable reply
We have two types of carrots from two different companies one was from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and one was from Perma pack the permapac ones are in much better condition they were both canned in 1999 the ones that we packaged at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints Storehouse in number 10 cans the quality wasn't quite as good we did not throw them away we have put them in with different races such as rice pilaf constant has some soups so that we do not have waste as we do not have chickens and we're hoping that there is some nutritional value still in them. The the permapac ones smell and taste very good and have a bright vibrant color we are pleased with them and are grateful that we have them in our food storage We have replaced a few cans as now we have opened something we should have rotated them a lot sooner than we have we're doing better now thank you for your side enjoy the information that your family provides for us.
@@TheProvidentPrepper This is when individuals were packaging these dry goods ourselves and still learning about how to use oxygen absorbers correctly,it was a learning curve to say the least.
I don't think that's a good comparison since the #10 can has preservatives in it, sugar and corn starch.
@@TheProvidentPrepper Nevertheless it's still not a good comparison when the Mylar bag had too much air in it, obviously they didn't remove most of the air after placing the oxygen absorber in it.
@@kenf8563 , or maybe the mylar bag was sealed perfectly but over time, oxygen slowly absorbed into the bag. This video was one data point and I think we should keep asking these types of questions but this isn't the first #10 can vs mylar side-by-side comparison that proved food degrades slower in #10 cans than they do in mylar. I've found the same thing through experience and I know of other veteran preppers who say the same thing.
WE get it! It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that the #10 can is better than Mylar, I have some myself. I also use vacuum sealed canning jars, kept in the dark of course. I do my own fruit and vegetable canning and I still will use Mylar bags since now SHTF scenarios will happen way before any Mylar bag goes south. @@537537
Maybe it's just me, but I purchased hundreds of paper lunch bags and I use them to store beans, rice and oatmeal then I put them into one gallon mylar. Am I wasting material?
if it allows you to break each food up into smaller quantities and put some of each one the the Mylar bag, I think that is a good idea. You could open one bag and have a variety of foods for that day or week instead of just one food. The paper bag probably helps reduce food dust or flour, etc and if folded over keeps the seal from having food particles in it, thus not possibly compromising the seal.
@@TheProvidentPrepper I understand what you are saying. Thank you.
@@kathyburson8191 Like a day or two of food sealed in one bag, I like that. Thank you.