Treating Spondylosis, Spondylolysis, & Spondylolisthesis (Lumbar Spine)
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2017
- "Famous" Physical Therapists Bob Schrupp and Brad Heineck discuss the differences between Spondylosis, Spondylolysis, & Spondylolithesis of the Lumbar Spine. They also demonstrate some exercises beneficial to all three types.
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I had an L4-L5
I’d did tons of proper core exercises (birddogs, deadbugs, hip lifts) and swam 500 meters everyday for 3 months and reversed my spondy. Also I suck in my navel area (as if your preparing to get punched in the stomach) any time I BLT or bend lift or twist. I also went to chiro for 5 months to get treatment like decompression, traction, adjustments. You must stay on mild core exercises everyday so it’ll speed healing and as you get stronger and stronger! Good luck!
Hey Stan the man, could I please ask you some questions?
I needed this, thank you
@@matthewneff4675 Be careful as the wrong exercises can make it worse. I got some off my GP and they made it worse.
Inspiring
Amazing!
You two are amazing Therapists, Thank you for giving your time and expertise on issues we all need from time to time.
Very glad I saw your videos. Will continue to watch them, also I send them onto friends and family.
Honestly your quote the beginning at the video saved my Day. Literally. I am a Physiotherapist student and I just got really bad feedback on my assesment of a spondylises patient, and came here for some help. Got that i needed, Thanks Bon and Brad!
I have told anyone that would listen about you guys!!!! I don't have enough money to go to therapy and over the years I have bought a lot of the therapy equipment from OPTP. Now I am so glad to have 2 Physical Therapist! I am 60 and you guys are saving my life....well definitely improving it. THANK YOU!!!!
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I agree with you, not very sad if she lives anywhere else but if she is in the U.S then it would be very sad. And I agree with you it’s not “HUMANITARIAN”
Thanks so much Bob and Brad! You two are my favorite physical therapists on the internet!
Thanks guys!! I’ve been watching your guys for years and have helped me through a lot of old sports injuries. Last week I was goofing off with my kids on our lawn slip n slide. Well on the last run I tried to slide competing with our 12 year old. Didn’t turn out well. I wound up hitting the slide to hard and my back hyperextended. I felt a small pop. Now lower back has been tight for the past week. Lesson learned!
I discovered you two while I'm in a horrible place physically and you have helped me more than any doctor or physical therapy has in 20 years. Thanks
I was diagnosed with spondylosis since I was 23yrs. Now that I'm 43yrs the pain is horrible!
Have you done treatment to help it ?
I’m 23yrs now and I have spondylosis too. Have you tried any treatments or exercises to relief the pain. Hope you doing well.
@@ucanhtran7283 can you recommend any videos? I have it since I was a athlete at 20 and I’m 38 and it’s been getting worse x
@@bryonyfrost9070 I’m sorry I didn’t save the video. Because I’ve mild symptoms so after a short period my back almost healing. I’ve just followed doctor’s prescription and do exercise everyday after I wake up and before I go to sleep. The main exercises that I follow are double knee to chest, hollow rock, glute bridges and I try as much as possible to avoid arch and twist my back.
You are spreading knowledge guys! Thanx again! Best of the best as always!
Thank you so much for taking the time to make these videos. Really saves a lot of people ❤
I'm glad I found you guys! Thank you !
You guys give me hope.
I've had back pain since I was in the 9th grade. I crashed onto bar while doing a forward drop from a back drop.
My spotters ran away and I suffered a serious back and neck injury as well as having many accessed teeth in the next 10 years. I've had a cervical fusion 11 years ago (finally) but am afraid to have back surgery. I'm 70 now, live on a little farm and it's getting really hard to take care of things.
I've everything you are talking about in this video. I'm going to give all of these a few months and hopefully I'll be feeling better soon.
You guys are the best. Love your informative and entertaining videos!
i am a physical therapist from Nepal and regular viewer of your channel....best of luck guys for your other upcoming videos..
I have Grade1 spondylolisthesis L4 L5 can u help me what to do.. I don't have money for treatment.. Pls.. Thank you. So much..
Thank you both for this video. I've had spondylolisthesis since age 13 (yes - as a result of doing gymnastics at school!), now aged 45 and this is the first time I've felt confident enough to try these exercises. Your videos are really helping to increase my mobility and ease the chronic discomfort. Just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to upload these videos so regularly.
@selina gaden can you share how you work? How you life has been up till now? How much hours you work?and what work you do? I am also suffering from spondylosis and i am 21 and been ill from age of 7 but i think i have it from about age 13 or so. I had many diseases regarding joints :(
Does it cause the spine to sink in? In my lower spine, I can see the texture of one of my vertebrae.. It seems to sink in if I spent a long time sitting..
AniBuu hi ! Just want to ask how did you handle spondy? I’m 22 and I fear for the future having spondy. Thanks for your response!
Am in Uganda. Am 67 y/o and was in banking for 22 years where I had lots of sitting. Diagnosed with spondylosis last year with compressed lumbar bones at the neck and low back. My discs are worn out and am always in bad back pains. What do I do?
Thank you you guys are the most famous on the Internet. ..Thank you for the close up....:)
Thanks for all the advice,
Hello. I’m a medical coder and your videos are super helpful!! I am preparing for the COSC exam and your videos are super informative. Thank you
Best comprehensive explanation of the do/don't for the lower back. I have spondylosis and now understand which exercises are harmful and more importantly WHY they're harmful to this condition much more fully. Thank you guys.Great stuff.
Thanks for those ball exercises. I just started a gym program, and we substituted the regular core strengthening with ball-assisted versions, and that is much better for my low back. I still can't lift the ball like you're doing, but eventually I should be able to do it when my ab muscles are a bit stronger.
Love your sense of humors!
Greeting Bob and Brad wow gentlemen I just love you guys your teaching really really helpful to me thank you I pray for long life for you both God bless you Evens
Thanks so much for this video...when I was diagnosed with a grade 1 Spondy I cried all the way home from the doctors office cuz they told me they wanted to fuse it, have me in a brace for 5 months and than couldn't guarantee no pain afterwards. I deal with the discomfort everyday but like you said Brad, got to watch what I do. I won't give up my activities...I love doing the lawn which means walking the trim, using a weed whacker and an edger...just have to posture myself and take breaks. Thanks for showing s that it's not a death sentence like I thought? 💕Annmarie from Michigan.
How are you now? What did you do to become okay ?
I am in living in hell with this condition had surgery 3 half years ago, have been putting a lumber fusion off. Neurosurgeon says it now needs done, back , hip, groin burning achy spasm down legs to feet with numbness. My mobility is greatly reduced weight bearing is hell sitting, standing and walking doesn’t help.
@@charm8167 How are you now? Did you had the fusion
Thank you so much!
thanks so much
You are great !! Good job
Thanks for the vid!
Quality work
Your vedios really helps me in studies
Fellow Brad here, thanks!
I actually had spondylolisthesis 2nd degree & healed it! Energy work, boswellia. Now told I have back of 25 yrs old at 57!
What did you do please, 20 days ago I was diagnosed with spondylolisthesis 2nd degree I've been taking anti-inflammatory drugs but once I stopped the pain came back
Also did you have any tingling or numbness in your legs?
@@may-ld5sd as stated I did boswellia 1 -2 caps/day, devil's claw for pain, energy work with chi-gong master, I would now also recommend a clean-green keto/paleo diet too.
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Thanks
@@jacquienelsonwalburn5682 this is very interesting. I have spondylolisthesis and a facet joint cyst at L4/L5. I have nerve pain down both legs, pins and needles, numbness. Which company did you use for the boswellia and devil's claw??? I get temporary relief with acupuncture and myofascial release. I'm awaiting an operation, it's really affected my quality of life. I'm fit and healthy as I am instructor for fitness and Pilates. Have you done the clean-green keto/paleo diet? Thanks Sue
My mother has spndyolsis problem stage 2 with L4,L5 disc problem ..pls give me any suggestion to cure
Thank you
Hi , i had back injuries in the gym in year 2013 with mild disc protrusions at L2/L3 & L3/L4 and facetal joint hypertrophy with resulting central canal stenosis . My chiropractor healed me .But 2 months ago , i have just had another back injury while putting my trouser in the bathroom.Since then , i have mild foot drop and low back pains .Today i went to the clinic for another mri scan and the results are as follows :
Mri report as at 6 sep 19 :
Moderate spondylosis at L3/L4 & L4/L5 disc levels moderate bulging disc more severe towards the right side with encroachment of both exit foraminae &corresponding nerve root sleeves .No listhesis, no facet joint hypertrophy.No canal stenosis.
Mild disc bulging noted at L2/L3 .
Remaining disc levels normal.
Bone marrow normal.
Conus medullaris normal.
Conclusion : moderate spondylosis L3/L4 & L4/L5 , more severe at L3/L4 right side.
What exercises are recommended for me ? Thanks in advance.
Thanks for your support. I always like to watch your videos. Please note, I was looking for Spondylosis and looks like you've missed in the video. You have started with "...2nd one.." after asking for subscription. You may missed in editing.
Very good.
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Very helpful
I'll try these exercises. My pain from the Spondylolisthesis is severe!
You guys are awesome....
great info..i have this condition i will try this, although i have a bit of the 2nd and 3rd issues L5 nerve root affected with leg issue
u guys r great!
I just got dx and I’m so upset. The pain has been unbearable. I’m binging all the videos.
I am so glad I stumbled upon this video. you guys are doing and amazing job. I have been diagnosed with early symptoms of spondylosis and have had a disc bulge for the last 4 years now, it did get better with therapy but I really wasn't aware it could come back. what I wanted to ask was, can I lift heavy weights in the gym? I do all the exercises I was taught for disc bulge.
Thanks. Would love to see a video for spondylolisthesis and DDD.
I thought the brown shoes are cool. Great explanation just had a CAT scan and it was like a live dissection. Realizing I have mild spondylosis and hip issues.
I appreciate you guys! I had sciatic pain all the way to my big toe from a L4/5 herniated disc.I the last few months the pain has moved up my leg ,just as you described in another video. The last pain was in my butt and some pressure in my back ,I've got burning just under the skin that seems to be following the same path ,it's now in my calf/shin .I would love to know what to expect from here?
Thank you so much Bob and Brad. What about the chance of healing this fracture. And do you think rest and brace will help the healing process. Thanks
I don't know how to thank you. ❤from 🇮🇳.
Hi Brad and Bob,
Thank you very much for your Spondy videos. I have 5 mobile lumbar segments. Transitional T12 and first degree spondylolisthesis at L4-5 and l5-S1. I have plans for a 2 week trek in Tibet for a once in a lifetime experience. I am committed to religiously and consistently doing Spondy PT exercises for the next 3 months leading up to the trek. Hopefully, the exercises will help me get through the trek.
I’ve never worn a back brace. Do you think it would make sense to wear a brace while trekking? You suggest on your videos only tightening the brace when worn for particular moves that stress your back. At minimum I am wondering if it makes sense to wear and tighten a back brace when hiking downhill. Even with PT exercises, my back is sure to protest loudly. Is there any harm in wearing a brace the entire time when hiking and tightening it whenever it seems effective in reducing discomfort? I will be wearing a day pack, which will provide a little compression and stability but not to a degree that will help much.
Thanks,
What size exercise ball is being used?? I need to get one now. I have spondylothesis (I hope I spelled that right lol). I've gone to PT for it already and the exercises they had me do made my condition worse!!
Just got my MRI results LS. I have numbness in my left thigh. Doc says PT will work for now. Going to lose 10lbs FAST.
I have spondylolisthesis and I’m 33yrs old. I was diagnosed at 16. I have lupus and was a gymnast. I am in so much pain constantly that brings me to tears. My L5 is fusing and it’s so painful. I can barely move some days.
Or every other day? THANK YOU
what exercises do you recommend for people dealing with it in their necks?
I have spondylolisthesis and mild arthritis in every lumbar of my back at 38. I am not athletic at all but I have Ehlers danlos hyper mobile. On top of that, I have to ruptured discs in my low back.
Brad I enjoy your vids on youtube and use them for reference. I to am a Grade 1- "Spondy" L4 over L5 with virtually no disc to speak of in between 4/5, infact our Xrays are interchangeable. I have 83% narrowing on my right side thus walking more than a mile is possible BUT it has its issues. I was wondering if you would ever consider a minimum invasive spine sx procedure for relief like a partial Laminectomy/Facetectomy. I am not over weight and in good shape but would like to get back to being in better shape. I have a two-year-old boy and don't want him to know his old man as just that an 'ole man'... Should sx always be a LAST resort option? I am for the most part fully functional BUT greatly limited. I would appreciate your thoughts as I am considering this surgery approach in seeking a better quality of life.
What is a good exercise for Cervical C 2 slightly over C3 spondylolisthesis at grade 1 ?
Do you have a video on Thoracic Myelomalacia?
The pain is on my left side when I extend but it goes all the way up my spine it hurts to move my neck to the left or even raise arm and stretch my back. It started when I bent over to plug something in the wall.
Ohh extension exercise i did the mckenzie metod a couple of days
Just subscribed.
Hello doc. If the spondy is at certain level. It can create pain above the level of pain . Talking in lower back
I have spondylolisthesis L3-4. My vertebrae shift posterior and anterior. I also have stenosis. What PT protocols would be recommended for shifting posterior and anterior?
I have spondylisthes at l4 l5 and it crushing my spinal cord and nerve is it too late for these exercises or do i need surgery decompression and fusion
Please
Pull up safe or not and can I running?
I have to get a ball. I like your equipment do you ship to Canada?
What's the frequency you do these moves? Every day, less frequent?
I have spondilothises (sorry if I spelled that wrong) and I get sharp hip pain medial/lateral also lateral thigh muscle twitch like a vibration and numbness and tingling in my shin all on the left side. Could that be possible with this spinal injury and create a nerve problem
What is the best way to sleep and sit? My vertebra seems to slip (clunk) out of normal positive at night causing pain that wakes me up. If I’m able to move around I can sometimes get it to clunk back in and the pain is relieved until it works it’s way back out again. Wakes me up every couple of hours. No bueno!
So at roughly 19 22 years of age a friend of mine was diagnosed with a L5 bilateral defect. she played alotta sports I cant remember what type of spondy but she said it was degenerative? can u explain a little more about that when its some 20 years later. keep in mind physically fit and no matter what its always painful even with strong abs and a good BMI ..
Hi I have a question, how often do you have to do the exercises?
Bob I also have a vertebrae that moved however mine moved out instead of in so when you say you should not lean back that does not apply to me. When I leaned forward is when I have a problem.
Can you recommend any exercises other than the ones in your..thanks
Can you do a video on retrolisthesis?
Kimberly Kozlovsky Yes, please! I was told I have both retro and anterior. Would appreciate retro video. Thanks, Kimberly!
I have a spondylolisthesis but I like to play basketball and volleyball, should I stop or should just I minimize something?
My thoracic spine is bent and hurts, I have upper back pain, also my neck hurts, chiropractic alignment provides temporarily relief but I need complete relief, My lumbar spine is fine.
what if you have spondolitic changes and thoracic disc dessication?
Are any of the same as Pars Defect?
When I do these my gluteus get the numbness tingling feeling so I stop.any advice?
Is lumbar and cervical spondylosis curable. What can physical therapy do for it.
Will I be pain free or what good will I get from physical therapy.
Thank you!
What would be a good Sneaker for someone with Spondylolisthesis?
Doctors, Im 21 years old having spondylolisys in my C6 - C7, is my condition serious? thank you
Can one use a smaller size of the ball than this size?
I'm not even 30 and I had been diagnosed with Spondylosis. I'll be seeing a physical therapist but I'll do this for now
I’m 19, so hang in there! We got this. Hell I sure hope so anyways
@@ep_aesthetics5917 what symptoms are you having. i get buttocks pain.
@@erenix3909 How are you now
Does it cause the spine to sink in? In my lower spine, I can see the texture of one of my vertebrae.. It seems to sink in if I spent a long time sitting
Hi....
I have bulging in c5 c6 ....so what shall I do to get rid from the pain ......
Can I have relief once and for all.
Greetings from India!!
Hope you are good in these troubled times..
I have problem of Spondylolysis L5 S1. Follow your suggested exercise. My ques- Can I run early in the morning??
Is running create any problems in Spondylolysis??
Hi Rahul, I have the same problem
Of Spondylolisis, how are you now? Did you find out if you can run? do you use a back brace? some advise to relieve the pain? thanks
I have stage 1 Retrolisthesis with two herniated discs L4/5 , L5/S. I would really appreciate you doing a video on exercises for Retrolisthesis that I can do to stabilize my spine. I have seen nothing on the internet about treatment for my condition.
How are you now?
Just had a cat scan spondylosis L-3 I was an Ortho nurse for 35 years ..............
Pars-inter-articularis - to be specific.
That was really informative! Thank you.
My mother (58yrs, obese) was diagnosed with lumbar spondylolysis as a result of displacement of L4-L5 discs 9 years ago and also developed thoracic spondylosis last year. She cannot walk more for more than a minute at a stretch without stumbling, due to extreme numbness, at which point she has to sit. Also experiences a shooting pain that radiates from lower back to the ankle.
What can you suggest to manage her radiating pain and numbness in lower extremities? Would an inversion table aid in reducing pain?
I'd really appreciate your advice! Thanks in advance!!
physicaltherapyvideo I'll do that, thanks much for ur input! I appreciate it.
i have a bad back problem from early athleticism in my growing years before, during, and after puberty. My question is: How possible is it to play football again? I'm currently 32 and have come back to college to finish my degree. I'm treating the pain with gabapentin and amitryptiline. I'm also in line to start injections and physical therapy. I'm hoping that finally gettin Physical therapy will eventually allow me to exercise and workout freely without pain. I think to myself, If I can get into shape, why not play football again. Is this a pipe dream or should i go for it if i feel good?
My son is 29 with spondelosis, tumors, degenerative discs and just denied disability. Also has Marfan Syndrome with a disection tear in his aeorta. They are restricting his activity to see if it will scar.
can you please talk about (twisting exercise) and whether it is harmful to the sciatica and herniated disc??
Its extremely harming because rotation plus flexioin is a mechanism for lumbar herniations. Check Mcgill and his exercises.
Question: are the exercises recommended daily? I've been recently diagnosed with spondylolisthesis and some days are good and other days are bad. Another question: does having spondylolisthesis also trigger inflammation in the lower abdomen area? I tend to get inflamed when in pain. Love your videos and learning a lot! Thanks!
I have same problem..some days good n somedays worst...
I also have spondylolisthesis, when my back gets really tired that I feel like I can’t keep standing up, I wear a back brace and it helps.
Stretching is just stretching, it’s not going to solve any of these problems. You must physically strengthen your pelvic girdle which is actually fairly difficult to do. I’ve been dealing with a spondylolisthesis since I was 17. I’m now 66 years old. Over the past 10 years I’ve had three MRIs of my lumbar spine and what I am doing is working it’s very slow and there’s lots of excruciating nights, but stretching is putting a Band-Aid on it exercising will actually strengthen and hold your pelvis and spine together better and will likely improve your outcome. Good luck…
Do you have to do it everyday?
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I came to watch this video because of my moms condition having thoracolumbar spondylosis. She slipped on the floor and never complain the pain until it worsen, now she won’t be able to sit due to a pain that she felt on her back like a cut of a knife. I’m so sad about her. Is there any chances that she can sit again?
Thank you so much. I am 42 year old and I had fractured L4 and L5 in my middle twenties. Was diagnosed with Arthritis and Spondylosis.I've had a series of physiotherapy that within 3 weeks after discharge the pain is ferocious. The [pain is worst especially when I wake on mornings, things have gotten so bad I now have a chronic pain in my tailbone . I can not lift any load, sit or stand too long and if I lie on my tummy too long this aggravates the area. out of seven days I have pain the lest is 5 days. At its worst every time I walk a pain goes down my leg, sometimes down to the ankle causing me to limp and , also causing both hips to hurt . I'm completely out of finances...can you please advise me on what exercises , procedures, diet or supplements that I can do to improve this problem? I need help! Thank you
Did you figure it out?
I suffer like you, don't know what to do