U't00b ads are so obscure - I'm listening to Finn give a rationale-but-empathic assessment of a subject which he declares "I am not a numetal stan" and I'm following as I do housework and out of nowhere I get an Amy Winehouse 'sample' taken completely out of context and made boring, and then some godforsaken 'poprockcountry' them music for tour junk, and Finn comes back "metal bands forgot about songs" hahahaha
@@bolillo5013 I think that’s odd just cause slipknot Is in my opinion the heaviest and most closely deathcore related form of new metal. I love deathcore so much and that’s mainly what I listen too also. Top three deathcore bands ?
the thing with nu metal and the fact it constantly makes a comeback every so often is the fact that ITS FUN AND MEMORABLE which modern metal seems to forget about these days
I agree! I grew up (or at least in my teen years) with nu metal (+post grunge, punk etc) hahah and it *was* fun! I loved it and nowadays it's just godly epic nostalgia or even more than that. Like Linkin park, I loved them til today, same with slipknot. And so on
A great thing about nu-metal was that alot of the big name acts that spawned from it actually have very distinct sounds! Even casual listeners can tell them apart through the vocals, the guitars, the drums, bass, etc...
@@rybo0072even my mom who isnt into metal liked a variety of metal songs from the 80s all the way to the mid 2000s. But she could never get into modern metal even tho it has more melodic parts than ever lol
@@ironicwisevisionary you’re probably thinking of Ice T and his band Body Count, who were metal, but not quite nu metal til recently. Ice Cube never had a metal band but he did dabble in nu metal during the late 90’s, collaborating with Korn and playing on the family values tour
Something i loved about Nu-Metal. Every band sounded different. If you came in halfway through a new song, you could tell who made it. There was such diversity in this genre. I still love it.
I’m currently 16, I got into metal around 2019, and I got into it through Linkin park and bring me the horizon. Before that, I only listened to rap and pop. The Linkin park to sanguisugabogg pipeline is real.
Deftones sudden rise in popularity among zoomers and popularity of singles from Meteora 20th anniversary (Lost and Fighting Myself) definetly play a huge part on the Nu Metal resurgence in popularity. And it helps that some bands like Linkin Park and Slipknot has became subject to critical re evaluation that they have always been good and got unfairly hated during their nu metal years
@@ghost_mall Yep, but for the better or worse, Linkin Park remain relevant after nu metal days are over, for the better or worse (partly thanks to hipsters who refuse to acknowledge that they are always been good). In The End and Numb will always be timeless classics, and Breaking The Habit still sound fresh to this day (counting my bias for them, the entire HT/Meteora still sound fresh to me and the lyrics are as relevant as ever)
Hot take: People who use reevaluations as excuse for critical reviews are the same people who bullied others for liking it only to do it because it is a trend
@Frederick0220. I like some of those big Nu-Metal bands like Limp Bizkit and P.O.D, but I’m much more into the Nu-Metal bands that don’t get the credit they deserved like Pleymo, Nonpoint, and One Minute Silence.
underrated 💀 its literally so damn popular, SOAD korn slipknot disturbed limp bizkit and linkin park all are so fucking famous how on earth is it underrated
Glad I was part of the peak of metal. I was your average white midwest teenager in the late 90s wearing JNCOs and listening to Korn, Pantera and Deftones at the skatepark.
It is funny because as a french teenager in the 2000's i was at the skatepark listening to Fench Nu Metal bands who were directly influenced by Korn and Deftones just after they released their 2/3 first album. Those bands were names like Pleymo, Watcha, Enhancer, Aqme, Wunjo, Smash Hit Combo ... they have interesting stuff even if you don't understand the lyrics (honestly sometimes it's better) Everything US made, Europe copy 5 years later haha
I love nu-metal and I'm not ashamed to admit it. Late 90s to early 2000s was peak. Korn, Limp Bizkit, Slipknot, Linkin Park, Papa Roach.. I'll take it all day!
Just wanna take a second to say i really appreciate your daily content on these genres. As a 38 year old the nostalgia stays alive thru your channel while also keeping me up to date on the present stuff too. The things you find to entertain us with are amazing. You do a great job for us man, you should be proud!
I was tidying up my house the other day and came across my 'Testeagles' CD's. Pretty much Australia's version of Nu Metal lol. Check em out for something new for you.
Nu metal appealed to many who didn't tie themselves down to 1 genre of music. I listen to country 90% of the time but love rock, metal, edm, and most music. Nu metal melds genres and some did it really well.
Nu-Metal never died or went away - Limp Bizkit has just completed a UK tour and they absolutely smashed it at Wembley Arena, and have even announced some new dates in August. Nu-Metal shows are always the best to go to (Slipknot, Korn, Limp Bizket, Kid Rock) etc.
To me the reason I like nu-metal is because I don't consider myself part of any "scene" or "group", I have a very eclectic taste in music that goes from underground glitchy breakcore to Slayer to Kanye West, so I like nu-metal because it's an eclectic mix of metal, hip hop, electronic, etc. all thing that I like!
the woodstock 99 documentaries in recent years helped Nu Metal reach a new audience as well, even though the snobby experts talked down on the music you can't deny it had the people going bonkers
I loved nu metal in high school. Korn, Limp Bizkit, Deftones , and Slipknot are still great bands with a lot of amazing albums. I was just listening to Wait and Bleed, and that song goes so hard.
Korn “Got The Life” was the first video ever ‘retired’ from TRL because it was in the top spot so long. if I remember, it was number one everyday for like three months straight.
The only person/band I can think of in 'metal' right now is Bring Me The Horizon with Oli Sykes being a larger than life personality. And even they did a song and 2 performances with Ed Sheeran. BMTH are the only ones right now doing it at that level.
I could not agree more, the thing that is leveling up BMTH is the fact that they doing what Finn says, they are going out of the metal scene and making music with a lot of artist of other genres like ed sheeran, sigrid, masked wolf. also, they are steping out of the boring syle of the metalcore bands, i see a bit of this on motionless in white but its hard to find a metal band looking not the same
As born in 1987 I'm so glad to see people born after 2000 who enjoy Nu Metal. This was my childhood that shaped my music taste. Unfortunately many in my bubble didn't like bands like Linkin Park / Korn / Slipknot etc. and so Inwas pretty alone with this taste of music. So good to hear even younger people nowadays like nu Metal.
The band Sylar who showed up in the mid 2010s, were a great blend of nu-metal and modern post-hardcore, think Saosin meets early Linkin Park, but unfortunately they didn't get much traction since clearly they showed too early to the party... Go check them out, their album Help! Is great
I think it’s trending partially because there’s a big tour coming this summer. Mudvayne is headlining with support from Coal Chamber. That’s huge for nu-metal fans. We NEVER thought we’d see Coal Chamber again so, yeah that definitely will ignite interest. I can’t wait to see them live again, 20+ years later. And I agree, at some point it became uncool that to look anything but normal in a band and that sentiment killed a lot of the entertainment factor.
I was raised on 80’s and 90’s rock and hip hop. When Nu-Metal came out I found my sound. I’m still a sucker for rap/rock like Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Hed PE. I implemented those sounds into my own band’s music here and there. Then when my friends From Ashes To New came out it reignited my love for it in a new light. You still have bands out there doing it like FATN, Discrepancies, Dangerkids, From Fall To Spring. The blend just works if you do it right
As a 29 year old. I started getting into metal in ‘07/‘08 when I was 13-14. My friend got me into linkin park, disturbed, slipknot, mudvayne, korn etc… Feel like I just caught the tail end of nu metal and even groove metal and mid 2000s metalcore popularity. As a guitarist now since 2015 and huge music nerd. I can say that I feel as though my influences and the best years for music were the 90s to mid 2000s. With groove, nu metal/alt metal and metalcore. Even post grunge with bands like tool, creed and seether. Being big influences as well. Seems to be a trend that the best albums production wise kind of ended in ‘08. Then everything started to sound the same and was generic over produced process djent tones.
"Paul Carter" Tool isn't really Post Grunge but most of those butt rock acts took influence from them, Smashing Pumpkins (90s material), Deftones, System of a Down, Pantera, Korn, Nirvana, Rage Against the Machine, Metallica, Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Guns N' Roses, Alice in Chains, Machine Head, Fear Factory, AC/DC, Megadeth, White Zombie, Anthrax, Nine Inch Nails, Slayer, Sepultura and Scorpions
I'm 18 and have always loved nu metal. I have noticed a slight bump in its popularity among some of my friends, but I think that it's especially getting bigger online.
I am glad its back. I'm 35 and still jamming out to it and always have. I'll forever be into alternative music even if I don't look like it due to being age appropriate in attire.
I feel like bands today only want "the music to speak for itself" but forget that nobody will buy a shirt with your tabs on it, but might buy a shirt with your face, band, or logo on it if you're an actual entertainer instead of just an instrumentalist.
No wonder I've been frequently listening to Nu Metal again lately and I'm so glad I'm not the only one! I used to get bullied alot in my middle school years circa 1998; around the same time Nu Metal was emerging and for once in my life, I was able to FINALLY have a proper outlet for my anger. My parents hated me listening to it ans even went as far as breaking a Korn and Staind CD of mine because they thought it was "devil's music". Well, that music got me through some tough times with the bullying and wanted to give up on life. I asked my parents to let me go to therapy at that time to try to help me with my mental health and they refused so that music became my therapy and gave me a voice when I was voiceless. So I thank Nu Metal for being the perfect soundtrack to my childhood. That and it opened the door for me discovering even more heavier bands 🥰🥰🥰
Easiest answer is that nostalgia runs on a 30 year cycle due to a combination of adults nearing 40 and suddenly longing for their pasts, and young people and popular culture in general looking to a past they didn't live through for new sources of inspiration to remold for the present day. Can't do 80s stuff anymore because that was such a 2010's thing to revisit, so 90's is the next logical choice.
There's a lot of modern bands that are playing nu-metal. Memphis May Fire, From Ashes To New, I Prevail, Falling In Reverse, and a lot that have never stepped like Nonpoint and Korn.
Let's also not forget that many of those bands innovated in the sound design department. They worked with the best producers of all time. Everything sounded radically new and better than anything that was before it at that time. Nu metal sounded futuristic even when compared to grunge that was not that old. Nowadays metal musicians basically just try to chase the nu metal guitar tones without succeeding for whatever reason.
the nu metal era was definitely not the end of metal. the reason why nu metal is back is because gen z is old enough now for that era to be nostalgic for them, so theyre listening to stuff they remember hearing as a kid. the reason why metal isnt popular now boils down to 2 things, 1) because everyone wants to be quirky and different and gatekeepy and be a part of their own little community, there are not only dozens of different metal genres but also literally hundreds of genres and scenes of music in general to get into now that didnt exist back then, there is no more monoculture like you said in the video, and 2) because people like being opiated and like listening to really bland boring music now, Drake and Taylor Swift's latest albums are perfect examples of that. The fact that people want to be different and quirky and alt so bad led to people splitting into literally hundreds of different scenes, and people gravitating towards "chill calm" music, exemplified by the massive boom of chill hop and indie rock in the 2010s, is why mainstream rock and metal nowadays has devolved into boring crap like what MGK or Olivia Rodrigo makes, which is low effort singing and guitars with no distortion over generic squeaky clean boring low effort studio produced beats. With the exception of Chelsea Grin, Suicide Silence, and Slaughter to Prevail, metal bands nowadays are stuck with this confirmation bias from their peers and fans who will gobble up any complex guitar riffs over bland electronic sounds and drums and weird guitar tones that get shoved in their face. Its not about writing songs anymore, its about how you can musically opiate people and give them dopamine rushes and grab their attention for 2 to 4 minutes. there's definitely still room for metal to make a comeback people are just stuck in their own little bubbles creatively.
We got lucky getting to grow up in the late '90's early '00's. Im 36 with a 14 year old kid now, and they're so radically different! And not in a good way. We had to venture out into the world to get our shit (no "safe spaces" necessary), kids don't have to do shit anymore! I fucking hate these times we're currently living in.
for some of us, Nu-Metal never went away. Current music while technically proficient, doesn't have hooks, the songs are like tech demos. Nu-Metal acts had that rockstar attitude, current post-hardcore/deathcore/metalcore are kinda generic and unnotable when it comes to style or stage presence. Brutal, maybe, but that's one trick pony. Give me a foot-long braided goatee, a serial killer mask and an Adidas tracksuit.
I think you hit the nail with the rockstar comment. Thats what separates nu-metal and just heavy shit. I listen to a lot of underground Slam with rap and dj hooks bass drops etc.. but those bands members are like anti-rockstars
True. Today's rock and metal just doesn't have those huge personalities anymore compared to the 90s and 00s. Fred Durst, Jonathan Davies, Serj Tankian, Marilyn Manson - whether you like them or not, you have to admit that they've got guts. Today's punk/post-hardcore/metalcore guys are just dull by comparison and look like normal dudes, only with more tattoos and black shirts. They don't look like rock stars and don't even seem to to want to be stars.
@@torstenscholz6243 Especially Jonathan he grew up being hated by everyone in Bakersfield. Even his dad was ashamed to say Jon was his Son back in the day...
i was born in 1985, i grew up in the nu-metal era… Slipknot, Korn, Sevendust, I’ll Niño, Papa roach, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Static X, Disturbed, System of a down, Mud Vayne, Deftones, Rage Against the Machine, Incubus, Soulfly, Staind, Breaking Benjamin, Metallica, Trapt and the list goes on and on. Oh man! 90’s was awesome and im glad i grew up listening them during my teenage years and now im 37, oh man i do still listen to them.❤
i'm 16 and got into nu metal a few months ago, i think deftones becoming extremely popular again also played a part in this since their first 2 albums are considered nu metal by many
Psychosocial is, to Slipknot fans, what Enter Sandman is to Metallica fans. Nu metal was people who listened to all sorts of alt music in the 80's (metal, hardcore, rap, alt rock, synthpop) and made their own mashup. Metal bands today seem more interested in playing in a subgenre
I would think Slipknot's Enter Sandmand would be Wait And Bleed. I literally knew cheerleaders who loved Wait and Bleed and would still complain about every other metal band and even every other Slipknot song because "you can't understand what they're saying cuz they just scream".
@@KrashyKharma most Slipknot fans became Slipknot fans because of Wait and Bleed, this is why I go with Psychosocial that came later and opened to a younger audience.
@@grimreads I mean, that's exactly why I think it's Wait and Bleed, it seems like the only difference you're highlighting is that Wait and Bleed came first so the real and and fake fans both got down off of it, but.. Psychosocial didn't bring in a normal crowd of fairweather fans who don't like metal at all, Wait and Bleed did. I agree most people won't think of it that way because it's what they got into first and are therefore biased toward it, but in objective reality if any song of Slipknot's songs brought in fake fans who don't give a shit about anything but a mainstream bop it's Wait and Bleed.
Nu metal might have been one of the last times guitar rock was huge. Emo and indie rock came close but The White Stripes and MCR never did massive numbers like a lot of the nu metal bands.
I never realized nu-metal was such a huge phenomenon in 2000s mainstream culture! It’s kinda sad that we never had such a huge movement in metal that could break the mainstream quite like nu-metal did. I feel like the last band to have an enourmous mainstream breakthrough, which was also part of the metal sphere, was Bring Me The Horizon back in 2013 with Sempiternal. And so far we’ve never seen any metal band to do that after them
I grew up with nu metal. Imo its perfect for todays generation. I dont think itll be exactly the same. But the rap/rock/electric music is fir sure making a comeback. U dont think it'll be the same but the nu metal music from the old is the catalyst for that and fit in perfectly
Nu metal was ‘bouncy’. Hip hop back then was also bouncy. Modern hip hop and metal are not bouncy at all. BRING BACK THE BOUNCY. If you’ve ever been in a limp bizkit pit you know exactly what I mean. A mass of people arrested by the music bouncing together, it’s hilariously fun.
I think Oppenheimer actually said "I am become death" because he felt badass rather than out of regret. Onlookers described him strutting back like a championship boxer once the test finally worked. I read that it was after the bombing of Nagasaki that he became haunted. He felt that the second bomb being dropped was gratuitous and that he had blood on his hands.
I feel like the problem is, or maybe not even a problem is that modern metal forgot to have fun. Things got real serious for a while and I think people are kind of tired of all the bad stuff in the world and they just wanna have some fun.
It was also the best genre that was all emotions-based, all other aspects were secondary. Thats why its so relatable, no matter if its heavy or mellow. Like when you listen to a pop or indie/soft rock song about a personal issue and it doesnt sound as impactful because youve already heard the actually powerful, pinnacle version of it in nu-metal, thats impactfulness taken to 11.
Growing up in the late 90s early 2000s I mainly listened hip hop but bands like linkin park and limp bizkit sparked my interest. This led me to more bands like korn, avenged, and slipknot. You made a good point that metal bands are getting too technical while you have their Stans nit picking every little thing. The thing I notice about metal is there’s so many sub genres and their Stan’s defend theirs and shit on everything else. Bands are afraid to experiment and crossover between genres because their fans push back and rebel against that. The podcast with m shadows is the perfect example of that. There needs to be that bridge to other genres to introduce people to metal. One band that I feel is doing just that and may be leading this new nu metal is Falling in Reverse. Watch the world burns put them on notice and I wouldn’t be surprised if Ronnie collabs with a few Rappers after that.
This genre never died for me lol I’m in my mid 30’s, I grew up on this music and still bump it today. I was just bumping counterfeit by limp bizkit in the car! As a kid tho, I never considered it or called it “nu-metal” that’s just what the media called it… to me, it was just dope music!
I was at the first Family Values tour. We drove from Jacksonville FL to Lafayette LA. While I was there, I thought back to 1995 when I seen Korn at Milk Bar in Jacksonville. It was a small basement club that held maybe 600 people. Then in 1996, I seen them at Shades in Orange Park FL, which was a club that held maybe 1,200 people… then in like 1997 they were playing arenas. Being in the music scene in the late 90’s/early 2000’s I had already known the guys in LB and Cold
You can also thank Limp Bizkit for killing it live. A lot of those bands faded, but they still get the crowd hyped AF. Their UK dates were all sold out i think recently, and they've been added to extra festivals.
If it is actually making a commercial comeback, then I am sooooo happy! I grew up with so many bands from this era, especially with Korn! I know all the cliches of nu metal music, and I love them! The sick new world tour must be partially responsible for its comeback.
When i was born Nu Metal was already dead, but i grown up listening to Linkin Park and P.OD., but i didn't knew what was Nu Metal until 2019. Nowdays, i consider Nu Metal as my fav genre, is so nostalgic and groovy, and opened my taste to more heavier genres. Nu Metal is coming bc it's impact was so huge, that the kids who listened to it back then, are paying homage to these bands that were so important to the Metal scene back then. Bands like Tallah, Tetrarch, From Ashes to New..all these bands brought a nostalgic, yet new air to the metal scene.
Hey look, people can say what they want about Nu-Metal. All I know is when Hybrid Theory came out it didn't leave my truck CD player for like 4 months lol. As a 43 year old dude that was some of the best times and listening of my life. So called metal music today all seems to run together. I'm a diehard thrash metal guy and to this day still love Nu-Metal when I want some feel good music. Great channel. Totally reminds me of how good music and specific times were.
The obvious reason this happened, is the handful of people who organically by chronological significance and or geographical location, myself included specifically, ended up a target audience for Nu Metal in its infancy. Myself who happened to be in high school in Sacramento California, from freshman fall 1994 to graduation 1998, very much a part of the central California region of the roots of the majority initial Nu Metal bands, Korn (Fresno), Deftones (Sacramento), Papa Roach (Vacaville), etc, were a part of the music that represented our artistic, overall feeling and sentiment of our time and place, in song and rhythm and melody. Nu Metal as I understand it, is just art imitating life of a time and place I happened to be a part of, very much the same as any other movement that happened to take place in any other time and place. I understand past my specific experiences, this genre went on for years to grow and spread significantly geographically, until it didn't. However now all of those fans of Nu Metal who grew up with it have children the same age they were and it spills over, organically and chronologically, like all musical genres do from generation to generation. Nu Metal is derived of imho, the passion, expression, and angst, of a downtrodden, overlooked, under appreciated, era of people crying out for more, acceptance and opportunity. Willing to grind, but not willing to sacrifice or take shit. Artistically, Nu Metal tapped into this emotion, and gave it life. Both chronologically this era has come full circle generation wise, and politically we have come very full circle with global sentiment, and issues. To me it makes perfect sense why it is re-appearing, and honestly I say awesome, I hope so, for a possible 2nd coming of again imho, a great genre of music that hits hard and speaks the truth. Rock on!
Biggest "Rock/Metal" breakthroughs of the past decade or so: Falling In Reverse, MGK, Ghost, & to a lesser extent Spiritbox, MiW, & Ice Nine Kills. All of these groups have a personality to them. What does... idk, Current or Like Moths to Flames have? Nothing.
I'd say Jinjer and Electric Callboy are also bands that can credit their breakthrough due to having personality/uniqueness. It really doesn't take a lot to stand out when every other metal band is white dudes in black t-shirts
@@osirisxtv you're objectively wrong, but okay. MGK has more monthly listeners on spotify than Slipknot or Bring Me The Horizon, (at his peak he had almost as many as Metallica at the time, his 22M to their 23M). Ghost also has more than all of the following bands: Shinedown, Breaking Benjamin, Godsmack, Mudvayne, and the difference between them and KoRn is less than 500k. FiR, while definitely not as big, has about the same amount if not more than all of the bands I listed for Ghost (save KoRn). All of the lesser extent bands as well have had albums on the Billboard 200 (hitting inside the top 20) within the past 3 years. Have a basic understanding of the scene next time before you make yourself look like a fucking idiot again.
@@TendyDefendy I would agree with Electric Callboy but not Jinjer. They made one reaction-bait song (whether they intended to or not) but most of their music itself isn't very interesting nor do they have an iconic look outside of having a girl, which in a world with Evanescence, Nightwish, Flyleaf, even Spiritbox, etc isn't as interesting as some might think. But yeah it isn't that hard to stand out in general.
We like not having stabbings and struggle snuggles at metal festivals. Have been going to them since I was 14. It is a different world from what the average night out in a European city has turned into. Look a bit further into Evan Rachel Wood and Ilma Gore. Manson didn't do anything. Those two psychos belong in jail. Wood scared her son into thinking "Brian" was lurking around California trying to hurt him. To keep him from his father. Who is now also suing her.
Marilyn Manson and Rammstein werent nu metal, they were industrial metal, they both use a lot of groovy riffs, broke out around the same time nu metal did and the latter was on family values tour, that’s where the confusion comes. Kinda similar to why some people inaccurately lump Mastodon with metalcore, it’s the timing
My first ever gig was Ozzfest 2001 at MK bowl as a skinny 14 year old. Sabbath, Slipknot, Mudvayne, Disturbed, Papa Roach. Raging Speedhorn. I ventured into a pit for a band called Soulfly (not knowing how big they were). I was not ready 😄
Music genres never leave. Just because it’s not on a Spotify top 10 list or played in the radio doesn’t mean the genre stopped existing. Using trend searches is also pointless. All that does is tell you it’s ok to listen to a form of music. Listen to what you like and don’t be pressured to like the current thing.
Some great points here Finn. Family Values tour was my first ever concert. Headlined by Limp Bizkit and DMX….although DMX no showed, still I think it was cool that those polar opposites were touring together. Wu tang and RATM toured together. Just doesn’t seem like the “big” bands of today like to expand and take risks like the era of nu metal, whether that’s bands choice or managements choice idk but I’d say it’s keeping them in a smaller circle
I think the Netflix documentary Woodstock 99 had a lot to do with it to… so many people watched it and loved the music and searched limp bizkit and Korn 😂
It reached the Gen-Xer's who had Metal and Rap growing up with Aerosmith with Run DMC, Suicidal Tendencies and The Beastie Boys, then it died down a bit until Korn and Bizkit. LP was different, good but different. Chester is a vocal god! Now we don't have that same type of diversity until Falling From Reverse, Chaoseum and Ashes To New came to life!
Finally started listening to metal in 2000 and my oh my we didn't know it would never be that big again. Nu Metal was hated. Plain and simple but 12 14 year old me loved it! I'm 35 now. History is nuts.
Unfortunately most kids don’t experience getting your parents and older siblings passed down music collections…. I found gun n roses, death leopard and so on sneaking into my uncles room listening to his tapes in the 80’s.
Why do people hate Disturbed, Creed, and Nickleback? Disturbed was ground breaking when they came out. I loved them. Nu metal music always talked shit about bands that had solos and long hair.
Yup! And a lot of the bands from that crowd that broke out have their own distinct sound as well - distinct enough even casual listeners can tell them apart!
I like that bring up diversity in sound. A few years ago I went to a show with the lineup of Napalm Death, Testament, Anthrax, Lamb of God, and Slayer. I love all those bands (except Anthrax) but by the time I got to Slayer, I was a bit metaled out.
Nu metal it's the perfect music genre because it's the mix of the top 3 most selling genres : rock/metal, rap and pop. It pick fans of these 3 genres. Nu metal it's the avatar. And to be honest this rise on nu metal is thanks to falling in reverse.
Rock, metal., hiphop, pop, reggae, punk, drum n bass... I think a lot of people don't realize this, but a lot of what constitutes Nu Metal is the obvious end result of Rap Metal and Reggae/Ska/Punk colliding (prime examples being (hed) PE and 311).
I also feel like our current culture has steered away from TV and things like UA-cam, Twitch and TikTok garner way more views. Things like TRL wouldn't succeed today. Back then...I never thought I would watch UA-cam videos as a primary source of entertainment, but now, it's the only thing I really watch outside of streaming platforms.
Metal elitists always complain about the 'simple riffs' & lack of shredding but missed the part where all the band members had their parts in most 2000s metal hits, not just the guitars. Many nu-metal hits were experimental and way a head of their time
It is indeed my favorite topic, and thank you for continuing to return to it because I'm not sure what nu-metal is anymore. I considered it my favorite genre grouping alternative metal music with a popular appeal complimented by a harder edge or listing songs played by bands that were considered nu-metal. Of course, any band could play music of different genres. I wrote that I'd come up with list of favorite songs, and still working on it, and these might not make the cut, but if anyone has any favorites to share, feel free! Disturbed- I'm Alive, Haunted, Decadence Devil May Cry 3- Devils Never Cry, Taste the Blood Halestorm- The Silence Offspring- Why Don't You Get a Job?, Feelings Flyleaf- Justice and Mercy Lacey Sturm- The Soldier, Rot Adema- Immortal, Co-dependent Machinehead- Blood, sweat, and tears Linkin Park- Breaking the Habit Alien Ant Farm- Flesh and Bone, Movies, Wish Breaking Benjamin- Blow Me Away ft Valora Thousand Foot Krutch- Down, Forward Motion, Phenomenon, Everybody like Me, Puppet System of a Down- Chic N Stu If I'm completely off, then, maybe I'll say my favorite genre is rock and call it a day. haha Happy Friday, Coach Finn and Sports Metal Fans!
@You should be I'm not the best at predicting, but I'm guessing I know your answer if I say no. Awesome username. hahah. From what I heard, they didn't have the high level of energy that appealed to me. Although, I didn't care much for Disturbed as a kid since I was more into the higher energy of Slipknot, KoRn, Soulfly, Pantera, but now I'm trying to listen to music with more uplifting, cleaner meaningful lyrics so they appeal to me more and might be my favorite band. Although, I think my favorite singer is either Frank Sinatra or Elvis now. What's your favorite songs? Thanks for you replies!
Mudvayne is not corny. They tried very interesting things while serving the song which is extremely tough. Their rhythm section is elite, one of the best drums and bass duos I've heard. Chad was doing sing scream thing before Sam Carter or Joe Duplantier weren't even on the scene. The guitar player had nwoahm sound down and he came up with great riffs.
I think I'd say _American_ metal has stagnated moreso than on a global level. Japan's still got some good shit going like Dir en grey, Deviloof, Vampillia, Sigh, etc. You've also got bands like Anaal Nathrakh out of the UK, Alien Weaponry out of New Zealand, Archspire from Canadania (though, admittedly, they're sorta one of those wheedly-wheedly tech bands), etc. Azteca from Mexico are pretty neat, also. Stray from the Path are the closest thing to American metal band I've had much of any interest in for... Maybe ever, come to think of it...
All those bands, plus bands from Poland, Italy (Graveworm just came back and released a new album), France, the whole of Scandinavian countries, Finland, Germany, etc. There's also a resurgence of more metal in southern South America (Brazil, Uruguay, Argentina, etc) and north America outside Canada and the US, like Mexico. I LOVE Finn's videos, but they are veery US-centric which is a very particular market. With a lot of great but also an insane amount of garbage, and of course, trends.
True. Metal doesn't seem to be that much of a thing anymore in the US and US metal bands haven't been that innovative in the past 15-20 years, but European, Asian and Latin American metal is still very alive and still provides us with great new bands and music.
@@torstenscholz6243 Yep, I'm originally from South America but lived in the US in the 2000's (my teens) and lived in Europe for a while. The difference is huge when it comes to metal music. Not that metal is super mainstream in Europe or south America mind you, but definitely more recognized than in the US. Still, the US does still get a lot more shows than my country haha
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U't00b ads are so obscure - I'm listening to Finn give a rationale-but-empathic assessment of a subject which he declares "I am not a numetal stan" and I'm following as I do housework and out of nowhere I get an Amy Winehouse 'sample' taken completely out of context and made boring, and then some godforsaken 'poprockcountry' them music for tour junk, and Finn comes back "metal bands forgot about songs" hahahaha
As a 16 year old kid I can confirm that I have as of late gotten into korn, slipknot, Lino bizkit, and soad because of you Finn.
I’d be curious what you think of my band Taking Balfour.
I’m also 16 and I’m into Slipknot but not as much for other numetal bands. I mostly listen to deathcore when it comes to metal
Don't forget Fear Factory, Static X, 7 Dust, Dope, Soil, and Coal Chamber
@@bolillo5013 I think that’s odd just cause slipknot Is in my opinion the heaviest and most closely deathcore related form of new metal. I love deathcore so much and that’s mainly what I listen too also. Top three deathcore bands ?
Lino Bizkit 🤟
the thing with nu metal and the fact it constantly makes a comeback every so often is the fact that ITS FUN AND MEMORABLE which modern metal seems to forget about these days
I agree! I grew up (or at least in my teen years) with nu metal (+post grunge, punk etc) hahah and it *was* fun! I loved it and nowadays it's just godly epic nostalgia or even more than that. Like Linkin park, I loved them til today, same with slipknot. And so on
A great thing about nu-metal was that alot of the big name acts that spawned from it actually have very distinct sounds! Even casual listeners can tell them apart through the vocals, the guitars, the drums, bass, etc...
@@mrconfusion87 exactly and modern bands are all just djenty architects rip offs that for the most part all sound the same
@@rybo0072even my mom who isnt into metal liked a variety of metal songs from the 80s all the way to the mid 2000s. But she could never get into modern metal even tho it has more melodic parts than ever lol
The fact that big rappers like Ice Cube and Cypress Hill dabbled in nu metal shows it’s popularity.
Well Cypress Hill was a huge influence on Korn. The first record was CH, Sepultura & Black Sabbath mixed w a few others thrown in
Ice cube had a metal band before nu metal was nu metal
@@ironicwisevisionary you’re probably thinking of Ice T and his band Body Count, who were metal, but not quite nu metal til recently. Ice Cube never had a metal band but he did dabble in nu metal during the late 90’s, collaborating with Korn and playing on the family values tour
@@chadhenry961 you are correct I was thinking of another ice 😉
@@ironicwisevisionary yeah , and they didn't give a fuck about what metal genre they played
Something i loved about Nu-Metal. Every band sounded different. If you came in halfway through a new song, you could tell who made it. There was such diversity in this genre. I still love it.
I’m currently 16, I got into metal around 2019, and I got into it through Linkin park and bring me the horizon. Before that, I only listened to rap and pop. The Linkin park to sanguisugabogg pipeline is real.
I am in this post and I do not like it
almost too accurate
Almost spot on accurate lol
BMTH is my fav band and wanted to give you the rec of avenged sevenfold. Every Album is worth a listen
@@tresmith4379 Love A7X
Deftones sudden rise in popularity among zoomers and popularity of singles from Meteora 20th anniversary (Lost and Fighting Myself) definetly play a huge part on the Nu Metal resurgence in popularity.
And it helps that some bands like Linkin Park and Slipknot has became subject to critical re evaluation that they have always been good and got unfairly hated during their nu metal years
LOL, dumbest shit I've ever read on the internet in years.
Truly!
@@ghost_mall Yep, but for the better or worse, Linkin Park remain relevant after nu metal days are over, for the better or worse (partly thanks to hipsters who refuse to acknowledge that they are always been good). In The End and Numb will always be timeless classics, and Breaking The Habit still sound fresh to this day (counting my bias for them, the entire HT/Meteora still sound fresh to me and the lyrics are as relevant as ever)
Also the recently Korn and limp bizkit album and tours of many nu metal bands
Hot take: People who use reevaluations as excuse for critical reviews are the same people who bullied others for liking it only to do it because it is a trend
Most underrated genre of all-time. SOAD, Korn, Slipknot, Disturbed, Mudvayne, Limp Bizkit, and Linkin Park are all great bands
Disturbed is debatable but yeah
@Frederick0220. I like some of those big Nu-Metal bands like Limp Bizkit and P.O.D, but I’m much more into the Nu-Metal bands that don’t get the credit they deserved like Pleymo, Nonpoint, and One Minute Silence.
Coal Chamber was underrated.
underrated 💀
its literally so damn popular, SOAD korn slipknot disturbed limp bizkit and linkin park all are so fucking famous how on earth is it underrated
@@xamyvaglab7967 I mean compared to those bands. They were way less popular than them. Not generally speaking.
Glad I was part of the peak of metal. I was your average white midwest teenager in the late 90s wearing JNCOs and listening to Korn, Pantera and Deftones at the skatepark.
It is funny because as a french teenager in the 2000's i was at the skatepark listening to Fench Nu Metal bands who were directly influenced by Korn and Deftones just after they released their 2/3 first album. Those bands were names like Pleymo, Watcha, Enhancer, Aqme, Wunjo, Smash Hit Combo ... they have interesting stuff even if you don't understand the lyrics (honestly sometimes it's better)
Everything US made, Europe copy 5 years later haha
Now you’re identifying as a middle aged black woman called Dolores and wear booty shorts and twerk to Cardi B
@@xavkoston16 Wunjo slaps
Most underrated genre of all-time. SOAD, Korn, Slipknot, Disturbed, Mudvayne, Limp Bizkit, and Linkin Park are all great bands
Same
I love nu-metal and I'm not ashamed to admit it. Late 90s to early 2000s was peak. Korn, Limp Bizkit, Slipknot, Linkin Park, Papa Roach.. I'll take it all day!
Just wanna take a second to say i really appreciate your daily content on these genres. As a 38 year old the nostalgia stays alive thru your channel while also keeping me up to date on the present stuff too. The things you find to entertain us with are amazing. You do a great job for us man, you should be proud!
Thank you!
You totally got me back into numetal and I'm balls deep into it like I was in the 90's/2000's. Thanks for reviving this awesome genre Finn
Agreed. Time to revisit numetal😂
Most underrated genre of all-time. SOAD, Korn, Slipknot, Disturbed, Mudvayne, Limp Bizkit, and Linkin Park are all great bands
I was tidying up my house the other day and came across my 'Testeagles' CD's.
Pretty much Australia's version of Nu Metal lol. Check em out for something new for you.
Indeed!
Nu metal never left! Korn, Limp Bizkit, Slipknot, n Linkin Park are my favs. N Finn I appreciate ya very much. 🤘🎵🖤💯💯💯♠️
Don’t forget SOAD, Disturbed, and Mudvayne!
The popularity wasn't there anymore though.
@@mattsteelman3832 LB had to hide for a bit
Nu metal appealed to many who didn't tie themselves down to 1 genre of music. I listen to country 90% of the time but love rock, metal, edm, and most music. Nu metal melds genres and some did it really well.
Nu-Metal never died or went away - Limp Bizkit has just completed a UK tour and they absolutely smashed it at Wembley Arena, and have even announced some new dates in August. Nu-Metal shows are always the best to go to (Slipknot, Korn, Limp Bizket, Kid Rock) etc.
To me the reason I like nu-metal is because I don't consider myself part of any "scene" or "group", I have a very eclectic taste in music that goes from underground glitchy breakcore to Slayer to Kanye West, so I like nu-metal because it's an eclectic mix of metal, hip hop, electronic, etc. all thing that I like!
I couldn’t agree more with this statement! It’s cool to hear someone else say it!
Hey you should check out type o negative, might be up your alley
Nailed it. I bought Follow The Leader when it came out and was blown away by the sound on that album. Still am to be honest.
It only became stigmatized because that was the “cool” thought to have
the woodstock 99 documentaries in recent years helped Nu Metal reach a new audience as well, even though the snobby experts talked down on the music you can't deny it had the people going bonkers
It was those Grooves for sure!
I loved nu metal in high school. Korn, Limp Bizkit, Deftones , and Slipknot are still great bands with a lot of amazing albums. I was just listening to Wait and Bleed, and that song goes so hard.
Korn “Got The Life” was the first video ever ‘retired’ from TRL because it was in the top spot so long. if I remember, it was number one everyday for like three months straight.
The only person/band I can think of in 'metal' right now is Bring Me The Horizon with Oli Sykes being a larger than life personality. And even they did a song and 2 performances with Ed Sheeran. BMTH are the only ones right now doing it at that level.
I could not agree more, the thing that is leveling up BMTH is the fact that they doing what Finn says, they are going out of the metal scene and making music with a lot of artist of other genres like ed sheeran, sigrid, masked wolf. also, they are steping out of the boring syle of the metalcore bands, i see a bit of this on motionless in white but its hard to find a metal band looking not the same
@ghost mall Agree! Good for them but popular doesn’t equal good.
@ghost mall yeah bmth is very hit and miss with me. Die4U was great but Strangers is an awful song
Parkway Drive have also become really huge in large parts of the world.
BMTH is not nu metal
As born in 1987 I'm so glad to see people born after 2000 who enjoy Nu Metal. This was my childhood that shaped my music taste. Unfortunately many in my bubble didn't like bands like Linkin Park / Korn / Slipknot etc. and so Inwas pretty alone with this taste of music.
So good to hear even younger people nowadays like nu Metal.
It shaped me as well. Was listening to AIC, then moved to Korn.
The band Sylar who showed up in the mid 2010s, were a great blend of nu-metal and modern post-hardcore, think Saosin meets early Linkin Park, but unfortunately they didn't get much traction since clearly they showed too early to the party... Go check them out, their album Help! Is great
“Soul addiction” is well, addictive 🧠👈
I've been blaring "Seven Years" alot lately in my car
Nu-Metal was the Attitude era of music. 😊
We are happy to be part of it. Great video once again! ❤️🔥
I got into Nu Metal when I was 15 in 2019. Best choice I've ever made in terms of exploring music genres
I was into it when I was 13 back in 2002
I think it’s trending partially because there’s a big tour coming this summer. Mudvayne is headlining with support from Coal Chamber. That’s huge for nu-metal fans. We NEVER thought we’d see Coal Chamber again so, yeah that definitely will ignite interest. I can’t wait to see them live again, 20+ years later. And I agree, at some point it became uncool that to look anything but normal in a band and that sentiment killed a lot of the entertainment factor.
Yup In Vegas
The climb has really been happening over the past few years though with bands such as knocked loose, code orange, tetrarch, etc.
Mudvayne
Coal Chamber
Gwar
Nonpoint
Butcher Babies
I was raised on 80’s and 90’s rock and hip hop. When Nu-Metal came out I found my sound. I’m still a sucker for rap/rock like Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Hed PE. I implemented those sounds into my own band’s music here and there. Then when my friends From Ashes To New came out it reignited my love for it in a new light. You still have bands out there doing it like FATN, Discrepancies, Dangerkids, From Fall To Spring. The blend just works if you do it right
As a 29 year old. I started getting into metal in ‘07/‘08 when I was 13-14.
My friend got me into linkin park, disturbed, slipknot, mudvayne, korn etc…
Feel like I just caught the tail end of nu metal and even groove metal and mid 2000s metalcore popularity.
As a guitarist now since 2015 and huge music nerd. I can say that I feel as though my influences and the best years for music were the 90s to mid 2000s.
With groove, nu metal/alt metal and metalcore. Even post grunge with bands like tool, creed and seether. Being big influences as well.
Seems to be a trend that the best albums production wise kind of ended in ‘08. Then everything started to sound the same and was generic over produced process djent tones.
"Paul Carter" Tool isn't really Post Grunge but most of those butt rock acts took influence from them, Smashing Pumpkins (90s material), Deftones, System of a Down, Pantera, Korn, Nirvana, Rage Against the Machine, Metallica, Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Guns N' Roses, Alice in Chains, Machine Head, Fear Factory, AC/DC, Megadeth, White Zombie, Anthrax, Nine Inch Nails, Slayer, Sepultura and Scorpions
I lost interest in the new crop of music stars that emerged in the 2010s, until I recently discovered Poppy!
I'm 18 and have always loved nu metal. I have noticed a slight bump in its popularity among some of my friends, but I think that it's especially getting bigger online.
At what age did you start listening
I am glad its back. I'm 35 and still jamming out to it and always have. I'll forever be into alternative music even if I don't look like it due to being age appropriate in attire.
I feel like bands today only want "the music to speak for itself" but forget that nobody will buy a shirt with your tabs on it, but might buy a shirt with your face, band, or logo on it if you're an actual entertainer instead of just an instrumentalist.
Metal has to become fun again, and then everyone else will join in!
No wonder I've been frequently listening to Nu Metal again lately and I'm so glad I'm not the only one! I used to get bullied alot in my middle school years circa 1998; around the same time Nu Metal was emerging and for once in my life, I was able to FINALLY have a proper outlet for my anger. My parents hated me listening to it ans even went as far as breaking a Korn and Staind CD of mine because they thought it was "devil's music". Well, that music got me through some tough times with the bullying and wanted to give up on life. I asked my parents to let me go to therapy at that time to try to help me with my mental health and they refused so that music became my therapy and gave me a voice when I was voiceless.
So I thank Nu Metal for being the perfect soundtrack to my childhood. That and it opened the door for me discovering even more heavier bands 🥰🥰🥰
Easiest answer is that nostalgia runs on a 30 year cycle due to a combination of adults nearing 40 and suddenly longing for their pasts, and young people and popular culture in general looking to a past they didn't live through for new sources of inspiration to remold for the present day. Can't do 80s stuff anymore because that was such a 2010's thing to revisit, so 90's is the next logical choice.
The same shit can be said for fashion as well! 🤣🤣🤣
There's a lot of modern bands that are playing nu-metal. Memphis May Fire, From Ashes To New, I Prevail, Falling In Reverse, and a lot that have never stepped like Nonpoint and Korn.
I like how the 20’s are a fusion of music from the 90’s and 00’s
Except pop hip hop trap and now COUNTRY domainate the charts
Let's also not forget that many of those bands innovated in the sound design department. They worked with the best producers of all time. Everything sounded radically new and better than anything that was before it at that time. Nu metal sounded futuristic even when compared to grunge that was not that old. Nowadays metal musicians basically just try to chase the nu metal guitar tones without succeeding for whatever reason.
the nu metal era was definitely not the end of metal. the reason why nu metal is back is because gen z is old enough now for that era to be nostalgic for them, so theyre listening to stuff they remember hearing as a kid. the reason why metal isnt popular now boils down to 2 things, 1) because everyone wants to be quirky and different and gatekeepy and be a part of their own little community, there are not only dozens of different metal genres but also literally hundreds of genres and scenes of music in general to get into now that didnt exist back then, there is no more monoculture like you said in the video, and 2) because people like being opiated and like listening to really bland boring music now, Drake and Taylor Swift's latest albums are perfect examples of that. The fact that people want to be different and quirky and alt so bad led to people splitting into literally hundreds of different scenes, and people gravitating towards "chill calm" music, exemplified by the massive boom of chill hop and indie rock in the 2010s, is why mainstream rock and metal nowadays has devolved into boring crap like what MGK or Olivia Rodrigo makes, which is low effort singing and guitars with no distortion over generic squeaky clean boring low effort studio produced beats. With the exception of Chelsea Grin, Suicide Silence, and Slaughter to Prevail, metal bands nowadays are stuck with this confirmation bias from their peers and fans who will gobble up any complex guitar riffs over bland electronic sounds and drums and weird guitar tones that get shoved in their face. Its not about writing songs anymore, its about how you can musically opiate people and give them dopamine rushes and grab their attention for 2 to 4 minutes. there's definitely still room for metal to make a comeback people are just stuck in their own little bubbles creatively.
We got lucky getting to grow up in the late '90's early '00's. Im 36 with a 14 year old kid now, and they're so radically different! And not in a good way. We had to venture out into the world to get our shit (no "safe spaces" necessary), kids don't have to do shit anymore! I fucking hate these times we're currently living in.
Lost by Linkin Park is the best song released so far this year and it was a B-side recorded 20 years ago.
....and i noticed like all songs like this it came and went on radio play
43, here. Korn shaped my life. Still listen to them (the old stuff). Holds up.
for some of us, Nu-Metal never went away.
Current music while technically proficient, doesn't have hooks, the songs are like tech demos.
Nu-Metal acts had that rockstar attitude, current post-hardcore/deathcore/metalcore are kinda generic and unnotable when it comes to style or stage presence. Brutal, maybe, but that's one trick pony.
Give me a foot-long braided goatee, a serial killer mask and an Adidas tracksuit.
I think you hit the nail with the rockstar comment. Thats what separates nu-metal and just heavy shit. I listen to a lot of underground Slam with rap and dj hooks bass drops etc.. but those bands members are like anti-rockstars
Nailed it on all counts. Salute 🫡🤘🏽
True. Today's rock and metal just doesn't have those huge personalities anymore compared to the 90s and 00s. Fred Durst, Jonathan Davies, Serj Tankian, Marilyn Manson - whether you like them or not, you have to admit that they've got guts. Today's punk/post-hardcore/metalcore guys are just dull by comparison and look like normal dudes, only with more tattoos and black shirts. They don't look like rock stars and don't even seem to to want to be stars.
@@torstenscholz6243 Especially Jonathan he grew up being hated by everyone in Bakersfield. Even his dad was ashamed to say Jon was his Son back in the day...
i was born in 1985, i grew up in the nu-metal era… Slipknot, Korn, Sevendust, I’ll Niño, Papa roach, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Static X, Disturbed, System of a down, Mud Vayne, Deftones, Rage Against the Machine, Incubus, Soulfly, Staind, Breaking Benjamin, Metallica, Trapt and the list goes on and on.
Oh man! 90’s was awesome and im glad i grew up listening them during my teenage years and now im 37, oh man i do still listen to them.❤
i'm 16 and got into nu metal a few months ago, i think deftones becoming extremely popular again also played a part in this since their first 2 albums are considered nu metal by many
Psychosocial is, to Slipknot fans, what Enter Sandman is to Metallica fans.
Nu metal was people who listened to all sorts of alt music in the 80's (metal, hardcore, rap, alt rock, synthpop) and made their own mashup. Metal bands today seem more interested in playing in a subgenre
I would think Slipknot's Enter Sandmand would be Wait And Bleed. I literally knew cheerleaders who loved Wait and Bleed and would still complain about every other metal band and even every other Slipknot song because "you can't understand what they're saying cuz they just scream".
@@KrashyKharma most Slipknot fans became Slipknot fans because of Wait and Bleed, this is why I go with Psychosocial that came later and opened to a younger audience.
@@grimreads I mean, that's exactly why I think it's Wait and Bleed, it seems like the only difference you're highlighting is that Wait and Bleed came first so the real and and fake fans both got down off of it, but.. Psychosocial didn't bring in a normal crowd of fairweather fans who don't like metal at all, Wait and Bleed did. I agree most people won't think of it that way because it's what they got into first and are therefore biased toward it, but in objective reality if any song of Slipknot's songs brought in fake fans who don't give a shit about anything but a mainstream bop it's Wait and Bleed.
Nu metal might have been one of the last times guitar rock was huge. Emo and indie rock came close but The White Stripes and MCR never did massive numbers like a lot of the nu metal bands.
I never realized nu-metal was such a huge phenomenon in 2000s mainstream culture! It’s kinda sad that we never had such a huge movement in metal that could break the mainstream quite like nu-metal did. I feel like the last band to have an enourmous mainstream breakthrough, which was also part of the metal sphere, was Bring Me The Horizon back in 2013 with Sempiternal. And so far we’ve never seen any metal band to do that after them
Late 90's too
Can’t forget Motionless in White!! After the Creatures album tho.
I grew up with nu metal. Imo its perfect for todays generation. I dont think itll be exactly the same. But the rap/rock/electric music is fir sure making a comeback. U dont think it'll be the same but the nu metal music from the old is the catalyst for that and fit in perfectly
Nu metal was ‘bouncy’. Hip hop back then was also bouncy. Modern hip hop and metal are not bouncy at all. BRING BACK THE BOUNCY. If you’ve ever been in a limp bizkit pit you know exactly what I mean. A mass of people arrested by the music bouncing together, it’s hilariously fun.
I think Oppenheimer actually said "I am become death" because he felt badass rather than out of regret. Onlookers described him strutting back like a championship boxer once the test finally worked. I read that it was after the bombing of Nagasaki that he became haunted. He felt that the second bomb being dropped was gratuitous and that he had blood on his hands.
I feel like the problem is, or maybe not even a problem is that modern metal forgot to have fun. Things got real serious for a while and I think people are kind of tired of all the bad stuff in the world and they just wanna have some fun.
It was also the best genre that was all emotions-based, all other aspects were secondary. Thats why its so relatable, no matter if its heavy or mellow. Like when you listen to a pop or indie/soft rock song about a personal issue and it doesnt sound as impactful because youve already heard the actually powerful, pinnacle version of it in nu-metal, thats impactfulness taken to 11.
9:00 Not to be a contrarian, but there is some hope. I just saw Static-X and Fear Factory with Twiztid and it was awesome.
Static x and fear factory? Man, I'm sure EVERYBODY'S necks hurt like hell the next day 😭🙏
Make Nu Metal great again!
Growing up in the late 90s early 2000s I mainly listened hip hop but bands like linkin park and limp bizkit sparked my interest. This led me to more bands like korn, avenged, and slipknot. You made a good point that metal bands are getting too technical while you have their Stans nit picking every little thing. The thing I notice about metal is there’s so many sub genres and their Stan’s defend theirs and shit on everything else. Bands are afraid to experiment and crossover between genres because their fans push back and rebel against that. The podcast with m shadows is the perfect example of that.
There needs to be that bridge to other genres to introduce people to metal. One band that I feel is doing just that and may be leading this new nu metal is Falling in Reverse. Watch the world burns put them on notice and I wouldn’t be surprised if Ronnie collabs with a few Rappers after that.
Slayer experimented with Nu Metal for 2 records. I think Joel McIver hated that...
This genre never died for me lol I’m in my mid 30’s, I grew up on this music and still bump it today. I was just bumping counterfeit by limp bizkit in the car! As a kid tho, I never considered it or called it “nu-metal” that’s just what the media called it… to me, it was just dope music!
Same! It never died for me
Neither for me
@@wallaceshawn-zk8iw it’ll never die as long as people like us bump it!
I was at the first Family Values tour. We drove from Jacksonville FL to Lafayette LA. While I was there, I thought back to 1995 when I seen Korn at Milk Bar in Jacksonville. It was a small basement club that held maybe 600 people. Then in 1996, I seen them at Shades in Orange Park FL, which was a club that held maybe 1,200 people… then in like 1997 they were playing arenas. Being in the music scene in the late 90’s/early 2000’s I had already known the guys in LB and Cold
Simple riffs with a catchy Chorus will sell more than any technical genres will
You can also thank Limp Bizkit for killing it live. A lot of those bands faded, but they still get the crowd hyped AF. Their UK dates were all sold out i think recently, and they've been added to extra festivals.
Remember they were booed & heckled in Chicago?
@@wallaceshawn-zk8iwThat was 2003 bruh! In 2021, the reception was a full 180! 🤣🤣🤣
Bands like Linkin Park weren't averse to being radio-friendly without sacrificing their essence.
I hated nu-metal in the late 90’s and early 2000s. But now that I’ve grown up and still have a bit of rage, I’ve learned to appreciate it 😂
Couldn't agree more that songs are what make memorable, lasting and impactful rock music. Not just talent, riffs, etc.
First it was pop punk, now nu-metal is coming back? Man we are living in 2000s all over again :D
and emo
If it is actually making a commercial comeback, then I am sooooo happy! I grew up with so many bands from this era, especially with Korn! I know all the cliches of nu metal music, and I love them! The sick new world tour must be partially responsible for its comeback.
When i was born Nu Metal was already dead, but i grown up listening to Linkin Park and P.OD., but i didn't knew what was Nu Metal until 2019. Nowdays, i consider Nu Metal as my fav genre, is so nostalgic and groovy, and opened my taste to more heavier genres.
Nu Metal is coming bc it's impact was so huge, that the kids who listened to it back then, are paying homage to these bands that were so important to the Metal scene back then.
Bands like Tallah, Tetrarch, From Ashes to New..all these bands brought a nostalgic, yet new air to the metal scene.
Cypress Hill opened for Limp Bizkit one summer and loved every minute of it. You're right, stuff like that just doesn't happen anymore.
Take a drink everytime Finn says "we don't have that anymore."
Chase it with a shot every time he says metal has no personality and should be more like Machine Gun Kelly and Ronnie Radke.
I never stopped listening to nu metal
Hey look, people can say what they want about Nu-Metal. All I know is when Hybrid Theory came out it didn't leave my truck CD player for like 4 months lol. As a 43 year old dude that was some of the best times and listening of my life. So called metal music today all seems to run together. I'm a diehard thrash metal guy and to this day still love Nu-Metal when I want some feel good music. Great channel. Totally reminds me of how good music and specific times were.
I still listen to 90s and 2000s nu metal bands. But we need some new nu metal bands
The obvious reason this happened, is the handful of people who organically by chronological significance and or geographical location, myself included specifically, ended up a target audience for Nu Metal in its infancy. Myself who happened to be in high school in Sacramento California, from freshman fall 1994 to graduation 1998, very much a part of the central California region of the roots of the majority initial Nu Metal bands, Korn (Fresno), Deftones (Sacramento), Papa Roach (Vacaville), etc, were a part of the music that represented our artistic, overall feeling and sentiment of our time and place, in song and rhythm and melody. Nu Metal as I understand it, is just art imitating life of a time and place I happened to be a part of, very much the same as any other movement that happened to take place in any other time and place. I understand past my specific experiences, this genre went on for years to grow and spread significantly geographically, until it didn't. However now all of those fans of Nu Metal who grew up with it have children the same age they were and it spills over, organically and chronologically, like all musical genres do from generation to generation. Nu Metal is derived of imho, the passion, expression, and angst, of a downtrodden, overlooked, under appreciated, era of people crying out for more, acceptance and opportunity. Willing to grind, but not willing to sacrifice or take shit. Artistically, Nu Metal tapped into this emotion, and gave it life. Both chronologically this era has come full circle generation wise, and politically we have come very full circle with global sentiment, and issues. To me it makes perfect sense why it is re-appearing, and honestly I say awesome, I hope so, for a possible 2nd coming of again imho, a great genre of music that hits hard and speaks the truth. Rock on!
Biggest "Rock/Metal" breakthroughs of the past decade or so: Falling In Reverse, MGK, Ghost, & to a lesser extent Spiritbox, MiW, & Ice Nine Kills. All of these groups have a personality to them. What does... idk, Current or Like Moths to Flames have? Nothing.
I'd say Jinjer and Electric Callboy are also bands that can credit their breakthrough due to having personality/uniqueness. It really doesn't take a lot to stand out when every other metal band is white dudes in black t-shirts
Lol those bands are definitely not breakthrough 🤣
@@osirisxtv you're objectively wrong, but okay. MGK has more monthly listeners on spotify than Slipknot or Bring Me The Horizon, (at his peak he had almost as many as Metallica at the time, his 22M to their 23M). Ghost also has more than all of the following bands: Shinedown, Breaking Benjamin, Godsmack, Mudvayne, and the difference between them and KoRn is less than 500k. FiR, while definitely not as big, has about the same amount if not more than all of the bands I listed for Ghost (save KoRn).
All of the lesser extent bands as well have had albums on the Billboard 200 (hitting inside the top 20) within the past 3 years.
Have a basic understanding of the scene next time before you make yourself look like a fucking idiot again.
@@TendyDefendy I would agree with Electric Callboy but not Jinjer. They made one reaction-bait song (whether they intended to or not) but most of their music itself isn't very interesting nor do they have an iconic look outside of having a girl, which in a world with Evanescence, Nightwish, Flyleaf, even Spiritbox, etc isn't as interesting as some might think.
But yeah it isn't that hard to stand out in general.
We like not having stabbings and struggle snuggles at metal festivals. Have been going to them since I was 14. It is a different world from what the average night out in a European city has turned into.
Look a bit further into Evan Rachel Wood and Ilma Gore. Manson didn't do anything. Those two psychos belong in jail. Wood scared her son into thinking "Brian" was lurking around California trying to hurt him. To keep him from his father. Who is now also suing her.
Marilyn Manson and Rammstein werent nu metal, they were industrial metal, they both use a lot of groovy riffs, broke out around the same time nu metal did and the latter was on family values tour, that’s where the confusion comes. Kinda similar to why some people inaccurately lump Mastodon with metalcore, it’s the timing
would Static-X fall into both then?
@@blxckheartrose yes, same for Powerman 5000, Dope, and Orgy
Gojira is an active metal band with rock crossover potential and great songs. Polyphia has crossed over with Jpop and other genres.
My first ever gig was Ozzfest 2001 at MK bowl as a skinny 14 year old. Sabbath, Slipknot, Mudvayne, Disturbed, Papa Roach. Raging Speedhorn. I ventured into a pit for a band called Soulfly (not knowing how big they were). I was not ready 😄
I never left nu metal…it’s always with me
Music genres never leave. Just because it’s not on a Spotify top 10 list or played in the radio doesn’t mean the genre stopped existing.
Using trend searches is also pointless. All that does is tell you it’s ok to listen to a form of music. Listen to what you like and don’t be pressured to like the current thing.
Some great points here Finn. Family Values tour was my first ever concert. Headlined by Limp Bizkit and DMX….although DMX no showed, still I think it was cool that those polar opposites were touring together. Wu tang and RATM toured together. Just doesn’t seem like the “big” bands of today like to expand and take risks like the era of nu metal, whether that’s bands choice or managements choice idk but I’d say it’s keeping them in a smaller circle
I have the FV '98 CD & DVD
I think the Netflix documentary Woodstock 99 had a lot to do with it to… so many people watched it and loved the music and searched limp bizkit and Korn 😂
I was in HS when Hybrid Theory came out. Yeah it was definitely the biggest album of the year
Was 11 when it came out, lost my mother the same year, this record has such a specific resonant in me
@@xavkoston16 I'm so sorry to hear you lost your mom at such a young age. Can't even imagine.
It reached the Gen-Xer's who had Metal and Rap growing up with Aerosmith with Run DMC, Suicidal Tendencies and The Beastie Boys, then it died down a bit until Korn and Bizkit. LP was different, good but different. Chester is a vocal god! Now we don't have that same type of diversity until Falling From Reverse, Chaoseum and Ashes To New came to life!
Finally started listening to metal in 2000 and my oh my we didn't know it would never be that big again. Nu Metal was hated. Plain and simple but 12 14 year old me loved it! I'm 35 now. History is nuts.
Nu Metal was the last time hard rock/metal was cool in the mainstream! Glad I became a teenager during its peak! 😎🤘🍻
Unfortunately most kids don’t experience getting your parents and older siblings passed down music collections…. I found gun n roses, death leopard and so on sneaking into my uncles room listening to his tapes in the 80’s.
As a dude in his mid-30s, I am the youngest in the family so I did inherit some of their music tastes as well...
Nu Metal reminded us that just about anything can be metal. Samples, remixes, rap verses, scatting, piano, bagpipes... All metal.
Why do people hate Disturbed, Creed, and Nickleback? Disturbed was ground breaking when they came out. I loved them. Nu metal music always talked shit about bands that had solos and long hair.
How big would Snot have become is the real question...
I think Ice Nine Kills is a great example of a modern band with personality that shine when compared to their peers.
Did anybody else noticed that in "In the end" there are flying whales.
Like Gojira?
@@laurisaarinen1126 exactly
Nu metal literally features better songwriting than most modern metal.
Yup! And a lot of the bands from that crowd that broke out have their own distinct sound as well - distinct enough even casual listeners can tell them apart!
I like that bring up diversity in sound. A few years ago I went to a show with the lineup of Napalm Death, Testament, Anthrax, Lamb of God, and Slayer. I love all those bands (except Anthrax) but by the time I got to Slayer, I was a bit metaled out.
This is just because the late 90s early 00s are super trendy now
Nu metal it's the perfect music genre because it's the mix of the top 3 most selling genres : rock/metal, rap and pop. It pick fans of these 3 genres. Nu metal it's the avatar. And to be honest this rise on nu metal is thanks to falling in reverse.
FiR has absolutely 0 to do with the rise of nu metal, this would've happened even if Ronnie had never existed
Rock, metal., hiphop, pop, reggae, punk, drum n bass...
I think a lot of people don't realize this, but a lot of what constitutes Nu Metal is the obvious end result of Rap Metal and Reggae/Ska/Punk colliding (prime examples being (hed) PE and 311).
I also feel like our current culture has steered away from TV and things like UA-cam, Twitch and TikTok garner way more views. Things like TRL wouldn't succeed today. Back then...I never thought I would watch UA-cam videos as a primary source of entertainment, but now, it's the only thing I really watch outside of streaming platforms.
Metal elitists always complain about the 'simple riffs' & lack of shredding but missed the part where all the band members had their parts in most 2000s metal hits, not just the guitars. Many nu-metal hits were experimental and way a head of their time
The big bands of nu-metal all had distinct identities and sounds that even casual listeners can recognize! 😂😂😂
If you're reading this please listen to Ultraspank and Snot.
It is indeed my favorite topic, and thank you for continuing to return to it because I'm not sure what nu-metal is anymore. I considered it my favorite genre grouping alternative metal music with a popular appeal complimented by a harder edge or listing songs played by bands that were considered nu-metal. Of course, any band could play music of different genres. I wrote that I'd come up with list of favorite songs, and still working on it, and these might not make the cut, but if anyone has any favorites to share, feel free!
Disturbed- I'm Alive, Haunted, Decadence
Devil May Cry 3- Devils Never Cry, Taste the Blood
Halestorm- The Silence
Offspring- Why Don't You Get a Job?, Feelings
Flyleaf- Justice and Mercy
Lacey Sturm- The Soldier, Rot
Adema- Immortal, Co-dependent
Machinehead- Blood, sweat, and tears
Linkin Park- Breaking the Habit
Alien Ant Farm- Flesh and Bone, Movies, Wish
Breaking Benjamin- Blow Me Away ft Valora
Thousand Foot Krutch- Down, Forward Motion, Phenomenon, Everybody like Me, Puppet
System of a Down- Chic N Stu
If I'm completely off, then, maybe I'll say my favorite genre is rock and call it a day. haha Happy Friday, Coach Finn and Sports Metal Fans!
Must have at least 2 of these things at the same time: catchy chorus, low tuned guitars, rap or dj
@@Durkhead Thanks!
@You should be I'm not the best at predicting, but I'm guessing I know your answer if I say no. Awesome username. hahah. From what I heard, they didn't have the high level of energy that appealed to me.
Although, I didn't care much for Disturbed as a kid since I was more into the higher energy of Slipknot, KoRn, Soulfly, Pantera, but now I'm trying to listen to music with more uplifting, cleaner meaningful lyrics so they appeal to me more and might be my favorite band. Although, I think my favorite singer is either Frank Sinatra or Elvis now.
What's your favorite songs? Thanks for you replies!
Mudvayne is not corny. They tried very interesting things while serving the song which is extremely tough. Their rhythm section is elite, one of the best drums and bass duos I've heard. Chad was doing sing scream thing before Sam Carter or Joe Duplantier weren't even on the scene. The guitar player had nwoahm sound down and he came up with great riffs.
I think I'd say _American_ metal has stagnated moreso than on a global level. Japan's still got some good shit going like Dir en grey, Deviloof, Vampillia, Sigh, etc. You've also got bands like Anaal Nathrakh out of the UK, Alien Weaponry out of New Zealand, Archspire from Canadania (though, admittedly, they're sorta one of those wheedly-wheedly tech bands), etc. Azteca from Mexico are pretty neat, also. Stray from the Path are the closest thing to American metal band I've had much of any interest in for... Maybe ever, come to think of it...
All those bands, plus bands from Poland, Italy (Graveworm just came back and released a new album), France, the whole of Scandinavian countries, Finland, Germany, etc.
There's also a resurgence of more metal in southern South America (Brazil, Uruguay, Argentina, etc) and north America outside Canada and the US, like Mexico.
I LOVE Finn's videos, but they are veery US-centric which is a very particular market. With a lot of great but also an insane amount of garbage, and of course, trends.
True. Metal doesn't seem to be that much of a thing anymore in the US and US metal bands haven't been that innovative in the past 15-20 years, but European, Asian and Latin American metal is still very alive and still provides us with great new bands and music.
@@torstenscholz6243 Yep, I'm originally from South America but lived in the US in the 2000's (my teens) and lived in Europe for a while. The difference is huge when it comes to metal music. Not that metal is super mainstream in Europe or south America mind you, but definitely more recognized than in the US.
Still, the US does still get a lot more shows than my country haha