Mr Woodall is a cracking interviewer. He respects his guests but also shows none of the fear or excessive deference that too many weak interviewers do. He’s relatable and down to earth but doesn’t let the interview wander off into the long grass, keeps it to the point. He also doesn’t have a big ego, knows not to make it all about himself, that allows him to skilfully draw great stuff out of his guests. This channel deserves to grow and grow.
Cheers for your comment Raddimus and I’m glad you enjoyed this episode with Carlton. We are fairly new to UA-cam and excited to see where this channel can go! Good man 👍🏼👍🏼
@@DodgeWoodall This was my introduction to your good self and I really enjoyed your style and have Subscribed. From a Millwall fan, in his 7th decade of attending The Den, and been to 1,770 matches and visited 84 Away Grounds. and never lifted a finger in my life either at Football or life, generally from The Elephant and Castle, originally. Good Luck M8...
Nobody was grassing on anybody!! No one was tipping off the old bill!! Police officer Ken tappendon was our nemesis and he's written his book, also there was a 400 police intelligence unit known as the southern intelligence unit travelling around the country & infiltrating the travellers festival network & raves , I was part of spiral tribe, forward the revolution 🙂
When Carlton related the story of how his father was the real hero for working so hard to provide for the family it reminded me of The Jam (Paul Weller) song 'Just Who is the Five O'clock Hero?' The man who goes out and puts the bread on the table for the love of his family as Carlton said is a hero in the real world. Respect and thank you for a valuable insight into a time that has flown by like a river.
Great to see Carlton. I was a co-founder of Genesis'88, and Carlton and Dave G were the best of that bunch. He was right in saying that other promoters were grassing us up every week.... I witnessed Carlton take his first pill, within half hour he was dancing with the crowd in the warehouse. Love him... ;)
I was there too I loved it when Carlton ran around the club and then looked at Tony tucker smiled and said this is my rise of the footsoldier and then pat tate flew in with Craig rolfe on the jet powered Range Rover they all went crazy because the pizza they ordered didn’t have 4 fucking toppings
Seen a few podcasts with carlton but this is the best by far .carlton can be very vague and go off the track quite a bit but you brought him back and got him to elaborate on his stories .Top interview
Dodge is by far the best Podcaster. He's going to blow up soon, he should be getting loads more views than this. Another belter, thank you so much for all of the content.
@jamiecoulson1016 Sounds like projection, it's alright mate, Aldi pay enough for you to afford another pair of black air forces and a nylon tracksuit.
Seriously, Dodge, this is one of the best channels on youtube. You're doing a tip-top quality job and I wish you all the best for now and the future. Thank you so much for the outstanding podcasts.
Met him in the Louden was an absolute gentleman of a guy. Took plenty time to chat and have a picture and never mentioned the usual that he would probably get tired talking about. Seemed to love being in there with the Rangers fans. Brilliant day
How are these figures so low. These podcasts are off the scale. Dodge your ability to ask the right questions and listen and let your guests talk….amazing!
What a nice down to earth bloke, I feel the same about my dad, he done all the overtime he could to give me a better life, he also had dementia, but Carlton what a humble man you are
Guys as a Glasgow Rangers fan we had the West Ham lads up for a friendly pre season, they were in all the Rangers pubs with mixed fans....Top top guys n gals....welcome anytime.
The happiest part for me was carlton's sister beating cancer as I buried my dad 3 weeks ago to it evil wicked disease....so happy for the chap ..and great upload.also brings back bloody great memories 💯💯💯💯
@davinche14 my dads at peace my friend....thats all what matters but God do I miss him ...my dad my hero could not ask for a better father ...thank u m8 all my best to the best 💯💯
Ive never sat and watched any of these podcasts on the internet for 90 minutes but, this was really interesting and the time flew by. Really enjoyed it.
Do you know something Carlton Leech has to be one of the most down to earth straight to the point hard men from that era in the UK Nuff Respect to ya man... Im a Spurs fan, myself not forgetting old Mansfield Town MSE & YIDS 4 life.
Watching from Glasgow 🏴, Carlton is a top bloke, very down to earth and honest given his background. Always enjoy his interviews. Brilliant episode dodge 👏👏
@@stevendodd1987 too many times directly, I had a moody blues cassette and a copy of Arthur 2 On The Rocks with Dudley Moor. Never ask Mark about it ?
It's nice to sit down after a loss and get the popcorn out and go over the reasons for why things can happen at times. You live and learn in the best possible taste.
Blimey, that last few minutes nearly set me off. Even the hardest man in the world is floored when you ask him about his kids. What a great conversation, yet again Dodge, fascinating and at times tough ground to walk. Really great podcast, thank you.
@@jamiestewart48 You misunderstand, I wasn't saying he was the hardest man in the world, I was suggesting EVEN the hardest man in the world is floored when you would bring up his kids. It's why I used the word "even". It's called language, you should check it out.
Wow this story was amazing! I was 11 when I first watched rise of the footsoldier and I’m 26 now. The movie it’s self is what got me wanting to work in security BUT security in this day and age is not what it is made out to be! Fantastic podcast and what a guy!
There is something really fascinating about that era and scene. A time gone by. Sounds great, until it goes south, usually due to too many drugs. So interesting. He looks great at 64 by the way. Great podcast.
Brilliant podcast. Crazy thing about Pat & Tony’s relationship, they only knew each other for two years and Pat spent 18 months of that locked up (approximately) Pat was collateral damage, not the cause.
@@paulkemp6314supposedly according to another witness! Apparently the hit was for Tony because he didn't pay back 400 grand. Some robbery went down or something. Tony was supposed to launder the money through some clubs but the guy's who did the robbery went to jail and when they got out after a few year's the money was never seen again. (Apparently) from another witness. Who according to him also drove the hitman!
Why did they end Craig and Tony with the 1st head shots but only wound pat with 1st couple of shot then finish him with 2 head shots, they obviously wanted him to suffer more and to have sum last words with him
@@smokedog2185 oh my God, ladies and gentlemen we have a real live one here, Mr smokedog, do you lose sleep over it or are you going on who wants to be a millionaire and your thinking that might be one of the questions, can you please tell us what difference it makes, don't forget you've still got your 50/50 and your phone Carlton leach
Great interview yet again Dodge. Carlton a bit of an enigma in most interviews but you really got the most out of any I've heard. You have a knack for asking the right questions at the right time & that's a gift mate. ⚒️
What people tend to forget is that Essex was full of people like Pat Tate especially in the 90’s the truth is he was small fish! He drew to much attention to himself and his firm by his behaviour! and he had two willing sheep in Rolfe and Tucker. This is another story which has been blown out of proportion by publicity and the original Essex Boys movie! Rise of the foot soldier is a piss take of it and it’s very funny and way more insightful but let’s have it right! Tate, Tucker, and Rolfe were little boys in a big man’s world and they fucked off the wrong people in the end! That’s the trouble when you get high on your own supply and you think you’re invincible lol 😂
Don't usually listen to this stuff, but wow what a awesome watch and listen; listening to the rave day's, I'm 53 and was there, and it was absolutely mental,just awesome times 😊
Nice to hear him mention the Zulu’s. I’ve not heard about them in years, a friend of mine was with them as a youngster. He’s so right about the little club firms. I’ve known a few and much respect. Cass was an idol of mine as a kid. 🥰
CASS IS MASSIVE...GREAT MAN...IM FROM A PLACE CALLED CASTLEFORD..IM A LEEDS SUPPORTER BUT LOVE WEST HAM AMMAZING TEAM N CREW....WERE ALL UK ERE ..UNLESS WERE BATTLING WERE GREAT FRIENDS...TOP MAN ....
Just came across this channel and spot on 👌🏻!! Brilliant way he interviews, just like a chat down the pub and such a relaxed flow. Always good listening to carltons stories.
1st time ever watching a podcast, so glad it was this one. Grow up in the 90s with acid and pills and was the best and worst years of my life. Also love the 1st ROTFS but never watched the rest so might have to sit down and watch em.. .
When Carlton says he knows who, and how they ended up down that lane, but he don't know who pulled the trigger. It makes me think that Mickey steel did have something to do with it (the set up) but Whomes was innocent, because I have seen Carlton say in a recent interview with John Whomes that he thinks Jack was totally innocent, but wasn't so sure of steeles innocence. It makes me think Steele may have lured them to the lane, yet someone other than Jack Whomes or mikey steele pulled the trigger.
@@BobsYirUncle mick was there too, the call Nicholls told the bent cop about Sara calling pat proves micky was there in the jeep, 4 mins later there all dead no more phone contact between all 6 after 7pm apart from one from jack to Nicholls at 7pm after been in touch Al day, Nicholls couldn't make it all up but was a willing part of a triple murder facing life he's put mick and Jack in to get off, rolfe wasn't meant to be there, he told his wife they were meeting micky the pilot,tucker or tate told no one,dibleys lead from day one,once the bent cop was arrested Nicholls was the only man admitting everthing to him that's were it all went wrong for nicholls, went in on a bars of dope charge, ended up on a triple murder assassination, the style of murder proves they were someone personal who hated them, only Ms could have got them to the lane unarmed and leave the door open and all were due back for 7pm so nothing was getting dropped that night, they were shown the field were the tax was meant to happen. Nicholls portrayed as a drunk liar was higher up the chain than ttr, never worked but had a jag, Land rovers and motorbikes sain he sold a key or 2, he will have sold much much more, al the jasper stuff is lies why would they sit from 7pm til midnight in the cold down there to do a coke deal?? Plus jasper said he seen a sawn off and a handgun neither were used.
In the american mafia movies you see its always someone really close to the intended target that has to pull the trigger. It definitely had to be someone really close to them, take your pick really, they probs had a lot of close friends they trusted, it could of been craigs close friend, tuckers close friend, or tates close friend.
@@2strokemxclassics Heard some where that Nipper Ellis dad was close pals with a police officer, AND HIS DAD WAS CONNECTED too, maybe they agreed with Mick steel to take them out, after the threats that they was going do serious harm to his family, and Nipper dad and pal was there waiting with only mick steel knowing and that darren nicoles heard and see some bits of the shooting? just a theory
Great interview. I actually trained Carlton for a couple months a few years ago, a nice guy. Gear back then to be honest was very good, no underground rubbish.
Just finished watching this and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I have always been aware of Carlton Leach from the hooligan documentary in the 80s about the ICF, I hope he finds peace and is allowed to be the grandad he wants to be. All the best Carlton going forward, can't wait for another riveting podcast.👍🏾
Smashing your content mate, moved out of UK 6 years ago and miss the real English talk. You interview people great mate. GJ (will recommend to my mates)
Great interview. Pissed meself when Carlton described taking the E and getting stuck to the floor and holding hands to get across the dance floor. Like finding god or something earlier describing how he walks into a rave and sees everyone hugging and saying they loved each other. Such a great character. It's a shame that after watching ROTF 1-4 that he was stitched up with 3 and 4. Now subscribed to the channel 👍
For me no disrpect its my life my older brother who left me to fight for his team Partick thistle am here now don't fuck we me duck head I love you all but my love beets you always xxxx
Pleasure meeting Carlton in 2008 when he came to Peterborough to promote the first ROTFS came in my shop with Dave Courtney his wife and sorted him some Garms out then was kindly invited to Radius Lounge to see an evening with him ..absolute Gent
The beauty of this series for me is that 20 or so years ago, I read a lot of these lads books. I’m not a reader, but loved the Firms, Hard Men and ‘celebrity gangsters’ books. Now 20yrs on, I get to relive those times but hearing it from the horses mouth. And Dodge deserves a TV slot, he’s that good an interviewer IMO.
People in comments saying Carlton this and West Ham ICF that, when none of them got a clue about the world he lived in or have anything like the experiences he's had. The fact is, he is relating an important part of British social history. I lived through these days, and they were beyond the imagination of today's pampered social media warriors.
1971 wembley liverpool v arsenal fa cup .scousers get there 06am .All at top wembley way 30.000 . Arsenal fans start marching up wembley way carrying a big banner with a Cannon on it .i AM 15 Years old and they keep coming and coming I dived under a st johns ambulance van and it kicked off big time arsenal swung around to the right . holy shit . That was it i was gripped on being a football hooligan. WEST HAM v LIVERPOOL . I never got inside the ground we used to jump the turnstyles do anything to get in . SO am left outside. Match starts these 2 west hams kids age 15 ish realise am a scouser takes of after me .I run like hussain bolt sneak into an entry , 1 of them comes running past i stuck a foot out tripped him up . Took his tool of him ( hammer for breaking fire alarms in schools ) ha ha AND just gave it him back . and said to him ,let it be. his mate comes storming around the corner like storming norman. and the kid i gave the hammer back to says to his mate .let it be. and of i trots .cockneys them days wouldn,t go backwards and they were fair guys . happy days . now am 66 been to wembleu over 40 times . good luck Carlton . SCOUSE POWER . joe
I don’t get why Carlton says he wouldn’t be seen down a farmland at 3/4 o clock in the morning , when they say they were killed between 7pm and midnight ?
This was such an amazing interview. Well done and thank you. Have followed some of Carlton Leach’s life story for a while now. He is such an interesting, honest and refreshing person. Also, loved the way the interview was conducted. It felt like I was sat with a few blokes in a pub, listening to the stories of a seriously interesting person. Deffo looking forward to seeing what the channel does next.
Honest 🤣 back in the day he'd rob you for a couple of quid. Grubby little thug who only impresses the cowards who look up to him. Go worship a firefighter or someone of value to society.
This is Excellent Dodge!!can relate so much too the scene back in the early nineties Carlton mentions. Carlton is so genuine.. Respect too you both.THANKYOU.C'mon U IRNZ!!!!
In a documentary I watched, it was said Craig Rolfe was warned in a vague way by somebody. They said leave those 2 guys alone. Get out of it. But I guess that's easier said than done.
Carlton, Richard Burton is my cousin on my mother's side, nice to know your family looked after him on the ship, as a tough lad from a poor mining family he would have appreciated that more than you know, best wishes mate.
I have known Carlton from quite a while back in our college days, and have always looked up to him, a lovely fella who would always help you if you were in need. I remember us all going round to his house in East ham at the last day of our college training and meeting his sister and having a laugh. My god I have some good memories of those days.
This was my introduction to your good self and I really enjoyed your style and have Subscribed. From a Millwall fan, in his 7th decade of attending The Den, and been to 1,770 matches and visited 84 Away Grounds. and never lifted a finger in my life either at Football or life, generally from The Elephant and Castle, originally. Good Luck M8...
@@chrisbee487 Thanks, Benny. First game Millwall 5 Hull City 1 on 3td September 1962 and it's been downhill ever since. lol Over those 60 years,it works out at 30 games per year with far fewer in the All Seater Stadium over the last 12 years though I have been 5 times recently.I used to love standing and changing at half time and it has been exactly 30 years since our move and I miss the old place every day like the fabulous Upton Park is missed.
@Isleofskye that's brilliant mate. Much respect. My dad was a 70s 80s and 90s Stretford ender. He first took me to old Trafford in 92 against torpedo Moscow 0-0 draw. I was 7. I was there when Steve Bruce scored 2 injury time goals against Sheffield Wednesday. I loved Upton Park. I went twice and once to the Olympic stadium. Think I've been to 30 different away grounds. Not been since 017 though. I miss it.
Ah! man , I'm listening to Carlton telling that story of popping the smartie and the hand dragging him into the club and he's took me right back to my 1st experience with E's back in Brum where I came up on my rush (love dove) on the dance floor at the Hummingbird and I fell over on the floor and couldn't get back up because my legs had gone. Wow! them were the days aye! never to be repeated. Thanks for this Dodge you've got another new fan of your podcast.
Similar story for me I was out in 1990 16/17 but too scared to take E plus the price 🤦🏼♂️ I was on YTS wages £29:50 a week with a tenner dig money so I took speed but my 1st E was leftover crumbs in what was a bag full of pink New Yorkers ooof I couldn’t stand never mind dance I just sat on the stage all night I didn’t go home for 2 days I was that nutted there must have been more than 1 pills worth of crumbs but I rarely took speed after that it’s a horrible drug 🤷🏼♂️ sorry for the rant ✌🏼💙👍🏼🏴
@@craigleith100 HAHAHA! Very funny rant my friend. We all wish we could do them times again. Speed yeah I know what you mean. Did my fare share but always felt rough for days afterward. Come to think of it the same with Acid as well.
Mr Woodall is a cracking interviewer. He respects his guests but also shows none of the fear or excessive deference that too many weak interviewers do. He’s relatable and down to earth but doesn’t let the interview wander off into the long grass, keeps it to the point. He also doesn’t have a big ego, knows not to make it all about himself, that allows him to skilfully draw great stuff out of his guests. This channel deserves to grow and grow.
Cheers for your comment Raddimus and I’m glad you enjoyed this episode with Carlton.
We are fairly new to UA-cam and excited to see where this channel can go!
Good man 👍🏼👍🏼
Agreed man to fackin right raddimus
@@DodgeWoodall This was my introduction to your good self and I really enjoyed your style and have Subscribed.
From a Millwall fan, in his 7th decade of attending The Den, and been to 1,770 matches and visited 84 Away Grounds. and never lifted a finger in my life either at Football or life, generally from The Elephant and Castle, originally.
Good Luck M8...
Nobody was grassing on anybody!! No one was tipping off the old bill!! Police officer Ken tappendon was our nemesis and he's written his book, also there was a 400 police intelligence unit known as the southern intelligence unit travelling around the country & infiltrating the travellers festival network & raves , I was part of spiral tribe, forward the revolution 🙂
@@Isleofskye Fair Play M8!
Looking forward to rise of the foot solider 15 pat tate’s nan’s story
Do you not like the films
😄😄😄😄
@@captainkickoff3565 yh the first 2 cause they were based off truth the rest aren’t
Lol
😂❤
When Carlton related the story of how his father was the real hero for working so hard to provide for the family it reminded me of The Jam (Paul Weller) song 'Just Who is the Five O'clock Hero?' The man who goes out and puts the bread on the table for the love of his family as Carlton said is a hero in the real world. Respect and thank you for a valuable insight into a time that has flown by like a river.
3 bullying idiots got whacked for being 3 bullying idiots . Carlton has made a career telling us all that in a roundabout way
@@thermosish nothing wrong with leach name son lol
He went round the roundabout a few times now 😂
@Cheezus Sliced 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@Cheezus Sliced 🤣🤣💯! Belter that lad👍
Bang! This comment 😂
Carlton nailed it when he talked about his Dad. I personally felt that and get what hes saying. Respect to all the hard working Dads out there.
Great to see Carlton. I was a co-founder of Genesis'88, and Carlton and Dave G were the best of that bunch. He was right in saying that other promoters were grassing us up every week.... I witnessed Carlton take his first pill, within half hour he was dancing with the crowd in the warehouse. Love him... ;)
Nice one Wayne 👍🏼👍🏼
i was there too what a night big j 😂
I was there too I loved it when Carlton ran around the club and then looked at Tony tucker smiled and said this is my rise of the footsoldier and then pat tate flew in with Craig rolfe on the jet powered Range Rover they all went crazy because the pizza they ordered didn’t have 4 fucking toppings
@@trueking1857What do you mean you don't do Cheese!!😂
Fuckin lies
Seen a few podcasts with carlton but this is the best by far .carlton can be very vague and go off the track quite a bit but you brought him back and got him to elaborate on his stories .Top interview
Thanks Max 👍🏼👍🏼
He's brain-dead.
It’s because he didn’t know them
@@azzatargett1098 Eat crow
Agreed first timer here for this Podcast,and ill be back for some more for sure.Subbed n shared.
Dodge is by far the best Podcaster. He's going to blow up soon, he should be getting loads more views than this. Another belter, thank you so much for all of the content.
Kind words Ben 🙏
We’ve been on UA-cam properly now for 4 months and excited to keep bringing everyone more content in 2023 👍🏼👍🏼
Pull your toungue out FFS
In short 3 bullies mess with real villains and get dealt with
Truth.
Simple as that.
Yep.. I'm glad you summed up in a few words what some people are still asking questions about today.
3 words.....Canning town mob
@@Hookythehammer who's that - Mr H?
In short 3 villains mess with real chihuahuas..the end
Brilliant interview. The way Carlton speaks freely with out blowing his own trumpet is so refreshing.
*Carlton
What trumpet exactly?
@2BUNTV yeah I know... Predictive texts on my phone kicked in
This was a really good podcast , carried him self so well, no bollox just honesty
I work in aviation and spend a lot of time in hotels. These interviews really help pass the time. Brilliant work please keep going
You work in Aldi and sleep on your mums couch
@jamiecoulson1016 Sounds like projection, it's alright mate, Aldi pay enough for you to afford another pair of black air forces and a nylon tracksuit.
3 bullies, who got done... they caused so much trouble in Essex that it was bound to happen....
Seriously, Dodge, this is one of the best channels on youtube. You're doing a tip-top quality job and I wish you all the best for now and the future. Thank you so much for the outstanding podcasts.
Nice one Rob and glad you are enjoying the channel 👍🏼👍🏼
He’s bang on with he’s podcast great work doge ❤
Cheers Chris 👌🏼
Dodge has the best channel on UA-cam it’s compulsive viewing
@@Gaggyboy8 Thanks mate 😊
Met him in the Louden was an absolute gentleman of a guy. Took plenty time to chat and have a picture and never mentioned the usual that he would probably get tired talking about. Seemed to love being in there with the Rangers fans. Brilliant day
Up the billy boys
I met him some months ago, he lives about 10 mins from my house in witham essex
Quality pod cast, quality interviewer and a quality bloke in Carlton. Carlton your grandkids will absolutely love ya 👍
How are these figures so low. These podcasts are off the scale. Dodge your ability to ask the right questions and listen and let your guests talk….amazing!
He's good, he has loyal subscribers like yourself, he'll blow up soon enough!
Nice one Michael 👌🏼
We are 4 months into focusing our energy into UA-cam and really enjoying the journey so far.
Welcome on board 🙏👍🏼
What a nice down to earth bloke, I feel the same about my dad, he done all the overtime he could to give me a better life, he also had dementia, but Carlton what a humble man you are
Great interview! I lived in London during 80's and 90's and would have crossed paths with this guy loads of times. They were heady times in London.
Guys as a Glasgow Rangers fan we had the West Ham lads up for a friendly pre season, they were in all the Rangers pubs with mixed fans....Top top guys n gals....welcome anytime.
Up the billy boys
Same wave length😂
The happiest part for me was carlton's sister beating cancer as I buried my dad 3 weeks ago to it evil wicked disease....so happy for the chap ..and great upload.also brings back bloody great memories 💯💯💯💯
Agreed! 💯 Sorry for your loss. RIP 🙏🏾
@davinche14 my dads at peace my friend....thats all what matters but God do I miss him ...my dad my hero could not ask for a better father ...thank u m8 all my best to the best 💯💯
You just got a new subscriber. Great interview. No bull, let the man speak and got a great interview. Nice. Heres to the future! 🍻
Welcome on board Paul 👍🏼👍🏼
Had the pleasure of meeting carlton not long ago absolute gentleman
say sothing abut this scums that was shot you gonna find out how gentleman he is !!!! like the one get what they got it !!!
Sorry to hear that
Ive never sat and watched any of these podcasts on the internet for 90 minutes but, this was really interesting and the time flew by. Really enjoyed it.
Do you know something Carlton Leech has to be one of the most down to earth straight to the point hard men from that era in the UK Nuff Respect to ya man... Im a Spurs fan, myself not forgetting old Mansfield Town MSE & YIDS 4 life.
Watching from Glasgow 🏴, Carlton is a top bloke, very down to earth and honest given his background. Always enjoy his interviews. Brilliant episode dodge 👏👏
Good man Steve and glad you enjoyed 👌🏼
@@DodgeWoodall class as always mate love this channel keep up the great work
@@stevendodd1987 too many times directly, I had a moody blues cassette and a copy of Arthur 2 On The Rocks with Dudley Moor. Never ask Mark about it ?
It's nice to sit down after a loss and get the popcorn out and go over the reasons for why things can happen at times. You live and learn in the best possible taste.
Blimey, that last few minutes nearly set me off. Even the hardest man in the world is floored when you ask him about his kids. What a great conversation, yet again Dodge, fascinating and at times tough ground to walk. Really great podcast, thank you.
Yeah it was emotional Rich and glad you enjoyed 👍🏼👍🏼
Hardest man in the world? Good lord.
@@jamiestewart48 You misunderstand, I wasn't saying he was the hardest man in the world, I was suggesting EVEN the hardest man in the world is floored when you would bring up his kids. It's why I used the word "even". It's called language, you should check it out.
Hardest man in the world???? You sure
@@jogon7914 I see what you mean... Good point. I was obviously talking in general terms, thanks for the heads up!
Wow this story was amazing! I was 11 when I first watched rise of the footsoldier and I’m 26 now.
The movie it’s self is what got me wanting to work in security BUT security in this day and age is not what it is made out to be!
Fantastic podcast and what a guy!
There is something really fascinating about that era and scene. A time gone by. Sounds great, until it goes south, usually due to too many drugs. So interesting. He looks great at 64 by the way. Great podcast.
Watched The Rise and Fall not long ago and just getting into the history of the Essex Boys. Absolutely fantastic history.
Brilliant podcast. Crazy thing about Pat & Tony’s relationship, they only knew each other for two years and Pat spent 18 months of that locked up (approximately) Pat was collateral damage, not the cause.
Didn’t Tucker buy a house and a Porsche with some gangsters cash and paid the price
@@paulkemp6314supposedly according to another witness! Apparently the hit was for Tony because he didn't pay back 400 grand. Some robbery went down or something. Tony was supposed to launder the money through some clubs but the guy's who did the robbery went to jail and when they got out after a few year's the money was never seen again. (Apparently) from another witness. Who according to him also drove the hitman!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, cockneys are proper real life bellends, still going on about 3 bouncer bullies who stood on doors taking tackle off kids
Why did they end Craig and Tony with the 1st head shots but only wound pat with 1st couple of shot then finish him with 2 head shots, they obviously wanted him to suffer more and to have sum last words with him
@@smokedog2185 oh my God, ladies and gentlemen we have a real live one here, Mr smokedog, do you lose sleep over it or are you going on who wants to be a millionaire and your thinking that might be one of the questions, can you please tell us what difference it makes, don't forget you've still got your 50/50 and your phone Carlton leach
"Rise of the Foot Soldier"
One of the best movies based on this story
Dodge you’re killing it mate. You’re conversational skill are second to none.
Good man Micky and nice one for the message 👍🏼👍🏼
Jonathan Ross was better
Kudos to Carlton for giving his dad respect 🙏
Ricky played him perfectly, first film was brilliant. Top interview
Totally agree, 1st film was brilliant and he was played very well by Ricci Harnett.
Yea, first film was class but they picked the bones from it with the prequels.
Agree and there wasn't a weak actor in the film.
Top interview once again 👌🏻big fan. Takes me back to the rave days 🤩🥳
I’ve grown up in Forest Gate my whole life so it’s so interesting to hearing tales of it back in the day. Find all of this very interesting.
Carlton is a proper nice old skool east end fella, all the best Carlton
I've just found my new favourite podcast
Welcome on board 👍🏼👍🏼
Great interview yet again Dodge.
Carlton a bit of an enigma in most interviews but you really got the most out of any I've heard. You have a knack for asking the right questions at the right time & that's a gift mate. ⚒️
Much appreciated David ⚒
Excellent interview, great questions being asked and answered in an honest and free flowing manner…….. best I’ve seen in a long time
Glad you enjoyed Pete 👍🏼👍🏼
Gotta love carlton, hes done what anyone in his shoes would have, and milked the shit out of his story. Fair play to him
Yeah, you can do what you want when you're the only one left...
You can MAKE up what you want, when there's no- one left to pull you up.
What people tend to forget is that Essex was full of people like Pat Tate especially in the 90’s the truth is he was small fish!
He drew to much attention to himself and his firm by his behaviour! and he had two willing sheep in Rolfe and Tucker.
This is another story which has been blown out of proportion by publicity and the original Essex Boys movie!
Rise of the foot soldier is a piss take of it and it’s very funny and way more insightful but let’s have it right!
Tate, Tucker, and Rolfe were little boys in a big man’s world and they fucked off the wrong people in the end!
That’s the trouble when you get high on your own supply and you think you’re invincible lol 😂
@@HGee420 Spot-on fella.
@@HGee420 Thank fuck for that, a comment that's actually accurate and worth reading. Loved the film tho faf respect bud 🤙
Every football fan and old raver of a certain age knows of Carlton, respected from 1 end of the UK to the other, always enjoy what he has to say.
Me too
@@gemmamudd7167
Me three
Don't usually listen to this stuff, but wow what a awesome watch and listen; listening to the rave day's, I'm 53 and was there, and it was absolutely mental,just awesome times 😊
Nice to hear him mention the Zulu’s. I’ve not heard about them in years, a friend of mine was with them as a youngster. He’s so right about the little club firms. I’ve known a few and much respect. Cass was an idol of mine as a kid. 🥰
CASS IS MASSIVE...GREAT MAN...IM FROM A PLACE CALLED CASTLEFORD..IM A LEEDS SUPPORTER BUT LOVE WEST HAM AMMAZING TEAM N CREW....WERE ALL UK ERE ..UNLESS WERE BATTLING WERE GREAT FRIENDS...TOP MAN ....
Watched all the Carlton interviews and this is the most in depth one yet.
Quality interviewer! 👏
Thankyou 🙏
I've just gone through the rise of the foot soldiers AGAIN. Quality stream 👌
Just came across this channel and spot on 👌🏻!! Brilliant way he interviews, just like a chat down the pub and such a relaxed flow. Always good listening to carltons stories.
Thanks Kidger 👍🏼👍🏼
Another cracking video,keep up the good work dodge. Slowly making my way through ur videos. Looking forward to the bisping interview 👍🏼
Loved this.moved himself in his final words about loving his kids.Hes a good man.
1st time ever watching a podcast, so glad it was this one. Grow up in the 90s with acid and pills and was the best and worst years of my life.
Also love the 1st ROTFS but never watched the rest so might have to sit down and watch em..
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When Carlton says he knows who, and how they ended up down that lane, but he don't know who pulled the trigger. It makes me think that Mickey steel did have something to do with it (the set up) but Whomes was innocent, because I have seen Carlton say in a recent interview with John Whomes that he thinks Jack was totally innocent, but wasn't so sure of steeles innocence. It makes me think Steele may have lured them to the lane, yet someone other than Jack Whomes or mikey steele pulled the trigger.
Funny that as jack is the only one out the two who admits being in rettendon that night
@@BobsYirUncle mick was there too, the call Nicholls told the bent cop about Sara calling pat proves micky was there in the jeep, 4 mins later there all dead no more phone contact between all 6 after 7pm apart from one from jack to Nicholls at 7pm after been in touch Al day, Nicholls couldn't make it all up but was a willing part of a triple murder facing life he's put mick and Jack in to get off, rolfe wasn't meant to be there, he told his wife they were meeting micky the pilot,tucker or tate told no one,dibleys lead from day one,once the bent cop was arrested Nicholls was the only man admitting everthing to him that's were it all went wrong for nicholls, went in on a bars of dope charge, ended up on a triple murder assassination, the style of murder proves they were someone personal who hated them, only Ms could have got them to the lane unarmed and leave the door open and all were due back for 7pm so nothing was getting dropped that night, they were shown the field were the tax was meant to happen. Nicholls portrayed as a drunk liar was higher up the chain than ttr, never worked but had a jag, Land rovers and motorbikes sain he sold a key or 2, he will have sold much much more, al the jasper stuff is lies why would they sit from 7pm til midnight in the cold down there to do a coke deal?? Plus jasper said he seen a sawn off and a handgun neither were used.
And the police says it was 7 at night but he just says it was the morning
In the american mafia movies you see its always someone really close to the intended target that has to pull the trigger. It definitely had to be someone really close to them, take your pick really, they probs had a lot of close friends they trusted, it could of been craigs close friend, tuckers close friend, or tates close friend.
@@2strokemxclassics Heard some where that Nipper Ellis dad was close pals with a police officer, AND HIS DAD WAS CONNECTED too, maybe they agreed with Mick steel to take them out, after the threats that they was going do serious harm to his family, and Nipper dad and pal was there waiting with only mick steel knowing and that darren nicoles heard and see some bits of the shooting? just a theory
Interesting interview... gave me a chuckle when Dodge said to Calton... "You're a clued up fella" ...streetwise, but not clued up!
Great interview. I actually trained Carlton for a couple months a few years ago, a nice guy.
Gear back then to be honest was very good, no underground rubbish.
Trained him in what?
@Travis used to cone into a small studio, some lifting that's all.
@@aaronbeazley7240 Ah ok cool
Great interview Carlton Leach is a legend 😊
Just finished watching this and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I have always been aware of Carlton Leach from the hooligan documentary in the 80s about the ICF, I hope he finds peace and is allowed to be the grandad he wants to be.
All the best Carlton going forward, can't wait for another riveting podcast.👍🏾
Mark was involved in Arthur movies, especially Arthur 2 On The Rocks, Dudley Moore was afraid
Glad you enjoyed it 👍🏼👍🏼
Conversations like this are important social history and its important to be recorded.
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Can you put chapters on the videos, please. so I can come back in bits , trying to make my first million, these distractions are not helping too much.
Smashing your content mate, moved out of UK 6 years ago and miss the real English talk. You interview people great mate. GJ (will recommend to my mates)
Good man Matt 👍🏼👍🏼
Great interview. Pissed meself when Carlton described taking the E and getting stuck to the floor and holding hands to get across the dance floor. Like finding god or something earlier describing how he walks into a rave and sees everyone hugging and saying they loved each other.
Such a great character.
It's a shame that after watching ROTF 1-4 that he was stitched up with 3 and 4.
Now subscribed to the channel 👍
For me no disrpect its my life my older brother who left me to fight for his team Partick thistle am here now don't fuck we me duck head I love you all but my love beets you always xxxx
From one West Ham fan to two others
Great interview the best I’ve seen with Carlton ⚒️⚒️
Carlton my dad had bad dementia he was my best freind and ill never get over it love your podcasts be good Charlton regards david hunt
Pleasure meeting Carlton in 2008 when he came to Peterborough to promote the first ROTFS came in my shop with Dave Courtney his wife and sorted him some Garms out then was kindly invited to Radius Lounge to see an evening with him ..absolute Gent
Absolutely brilliant podcast Dodge, you're the best youtube channel, hands down!
Appreciate that John 👍🏼👍🏼
I was planning on skipping through this, but I found myself enjoying listening because I could relate to allot of it.
The beauty of this series for me is that 20 or so years ago, I read a lot of these lads books. I’m not a reader, but loved the Firms, Hard Men and ‘celebrity gangsters’ books.
Now 20yrs on, I get to relive those times but hearing it from the horses mouth.
And Dodge deserves a TV slot, he’s that good an interviewer IMO.
Kind words Chris 👍🏼👍🏼
Love your interviews dodge I'm new so I have tons to watch yet 😂😂😂
Followed Charlton and watched podcast and interview for years, story never gets old or changes, top lad
Charlton Athletic ???
People in comments saying Carlton this and West Ham ICF that, when none of them got a clue about the world he lived in or have anything like the experiences he's had. The fact is, he is relating an important part of British social history. I lived through these days, and they were beyond the imagination of today's pampered social media warriors.
Well said 👍🏼⚒️
Great interview,honest and real. Good work 🤝
I love how the majority of people that have a life like this always look back to their dad and appreciate how hard life is on the straight and narrow
Fantastic interview. Massive respect to you both.
I read Carlton’s book about 20 years ago, never cared about the Essex boys, but his book and lifestyle made for great reading
1971 wembley liverpool v arsenal fa cup .scousers get there 06am .All at top wembley way 30.000 . Arsenal fans start marching up wembley way carrying a big banner with a Cannon on it .i AM 15 Years old and they keep coming and coming I dived under a st johns ambulance van and it kicked off big time arsenal swung around to the right . holy shit . That was it i was gripped on being a football hooligan. WEST HAM v LIVERPOOL . I never got inside the ground we used to jump the turnstyles do anything to get in . SO am left outside. Match starts these 2 west hams kids age 15 ish realise am a scouser takes of after me .I run like hussain bolt sneak into an entry , 1 of them comes running past i stuck a foot out tripped him up . Took his tool of him ( hammer for breaking fire alarms in schools ) ha ha AND just gave it him back . and said to him ,let it be. his mate comes storming around the corner like storming norman. and the kid i gave the hammer back to says to his mate .let it be. and of i trots .cockneys them days wouldn,t go backwards and they were fair guys . happy days . now am 66 been to wembleu over 40 times . good luck Carlton . SCOUSE POWER . joe
Brilliant interview
I don’t get why Carlton says he wouldn’t be seen down a farmland at 3/4 o clock in the morning , when they say they were killed between 7pm and midnight ?
Good interview
This is superb well done Dodge and Carlton, a fantastic and intriguing watch.
No surrender Carlton you boys are welcome in Glasgow anytime, top guys fantastic club
Another great podcast with great, in depth, clever conversation Dodge. 👏
Carlton says he knows who took them there...... who was it then Carlton?
This was such an amazing interview. Well done and thank you. Have followed some of Carlton Leach’s life story for a while now. He is such an interesting, honest and refreshing person. Also, loved the way the interview was conducted. It felt like I was sat with a few blokes in a pub, listening to the stories of a seriously interesting person. Deffo looking forward to seeing what the channel does next.
Glad you enjoyed it Bryan and a load more to come in 2023 👍🏼👍🏼
Honest 🤣 back in the day he'd rob you for a couple of quid. Grubby little thug who only impresses the cowards who look up to him. Go worship a firefighter or someone of value to society.
Great Interview lads!! All the very best to Mr Leach. so good at telling it as it was.
This is Excellent Dodge!!can relate so much too the scene back in the early nineties Carlton mentions.
Carlton is so genuine.. Respect too you both.THANKYOU.C'mon U IRNZ!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it NH 👍🏼👍🏼
Dodge you should have had a million subs by now great at what you do !! Great interview
Much appreciated 👍🏼👍🏼
In a documentary I watched, it was said Craig Rolfe was warned in a vague way by somebody. They said leave those 2 guys alone. Get out of it. But I guess that's easier said than done.
Rolfe got what he deserved I don't have any sympathy for him or the the other 2 nasty people.carlton Is a straight up guy
very good interview and interviewer.Compelling
Carlton, Richard Burton is my cousin on my mother's side, nice to know your family looked after him on the ship, as a tough lad from a poor mining family he would have appreciated that more than you know, best wishes mate.
I'm Millwall but every one knows West Ham won the world cup. My growing up was pretty much the same as his
Both West ham and Millwall had black top boys but the press always tried to say we were NF
Millwall and West ham are the same people away from football they're great together until someone mentions football
@@michaelharrison3602 what drugs are you on mug .
Don king?
Fantastic interview. Honest straight up chat.
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Hahahahhqhahqhqhgqhhqhqhq best comment here 🤣🤣🤣
People seem to forget Millwall is on the Dark Side of the River. They were originally on the Island. West Ham are their natural rivals.
I have known Carlton from quite a while back in our college days, and have always looked up to him, a lovely fella who would always help you if you were in need. I remember us all going round to his house in East ham at the last day of our college training and meeting his sister and having a laugh. My god I have some good memories of those days.
great interview! coud listen to carlton talk for hours
This was my introduction to your good self and I really enjoyed your style and have Subscribed.
From a Millwall fan, in his 7th decade of attending The Den, and been to 1,770 matches and visited 84 Away Grounds. and never lifted a finger in my life either at Football or life, generally from The Elephant and Castle, originally.
Good Luck M8...
Good man and I hope you enjoy the channel ⚒👍🏼
Amazing mate. 1,770 matches is brilliant 👏
@@chrisbee487 Thanks, Benny.
First game Millwall 5 Hull City 1 on 3td September 1962 and it's been downhill ever since. lol Over those 60 years,it works out at 30 games per year with far fewer in the All Seater Stadium over the last 12 years though I have been 5 times recently.I used to love standing and changing at half time and it has been exactly 30 years since our move and I miss the old place every day like the fabulous Upton Park is missed.
@Isleofskye that's brilliant mate. Much respect. My dad was a 70s 80s and 90s Stretford ender. He first took me to old Trafford in 92 against torpedo Moscow 0-0 draw. I was 7. I was there when Steve Bruce scored 2 injury time goals against Sheffield Wednesday. I loved Upton Park. I went twice and once to the Olympic stadium. Think I've been to 30 different away grounds. Not been since 017 though. I miss it.
Isleofskye your everywhere mate, formerly RAVEN AK47 Before i was banned for a BLM remark 😉⚒
The films in Honour to her. That could have been a lot , of us, who took rhat E.. thankfulness. ❤❤❤❤
Ah! man , I'm listening to Carlton telling that story of popping the smartie and the hand dragging him into the club and he's took me right back to my 1st experience with E's back in Brum where I came up on my rush (love dove) on the dance floor at the Hummingbird and I fell over on the floor and couldn't get back up because my legs had gone. Wow! them were the days aye! never to be repeated. Thanks for this Dodge you've got another new fan of your podcast.
Good days Gary 😉 and welcome on board 👍🏼👍🏼
Similar story for me I was out in 1990 16/17 but too scared to take E plus the price 🤦🏼♂️ I was on YTS wages £29:50 a week with a tenner dig money so I took speed but my 1st E was leftover crumbs in what was a bag full of pink New Yorkers ooof I couldn’t stand never mind dance I just sat on the stage all night I didn’t go home for 2 days I was that nutted there must have been more than 1 pills worth of crumbs but I rarely took speed after that it’s a horrible drug 🤷🏼♂️ sorry for the rant ✌🏼💙👍🏼🏴
@@craigleith100 HAHAHA! Very funny rant my friend. We all wish we could do them times again. Speed yeah I know what you mean. Did my fare share but always felt rough for days afterward. Come to think of it the same with Acid as well.
Pure white doves 🕊️ the thick ones rushy as fk 😀👍👍👍
I used to go to the Hummingbird mate , what a place 👍
I love the honestly look of both host and guest.
Top work
Great interview. One of the best I've seen.
Thanks Andy 💥👍🏼
Proper talk at the end.
A great tribute to dad’s,
and a nice acknowledgment of his own🇬🇧👊🏼