Im in the mid 50s and have come to realize after Trainer Road, and other programs and a real life human coach, that Im at my limits, and that's what you' as older people have to realize. You can't gain much, but train to keep what you have. Like your VO2, gaining it as a mid 50's dude with health issues. LOL. Train to keep what you have. Change your expectations and you won't be depressed. I have a family, and sole care giver for my mom and work in the ER, in a freaking Covid tent. Ya, i got stress and little time and health issues spinal stenosis, immune disorder, knee replacement, etc.... You older guys gotta realize competitive cycling is a power sport for young people.
So many of our athletes have to balance full lives outside of training, we're glad to help make fitness maintenance and gains possible even with low TSS! We should include a field for LIFE TSS on the TrainerRoad Calendar: work+commute+stress. :)
I agree, little improvements here and there. It really doesn't take much to overtrain. I learned pretty quick last winter when I was doing too much SS work and not taking days off, I got really sick.
I smashed my weekly TSS from 400-450 to 800 at the end of a 6 week block. I won't be aiming for that again, I'm scared that it'll impede longevity and consistency. It did feel like an achievement though.
This was a great segment. This is very relevant to where I stand as a cyclist. As you may know, California, unfortunately has have fires across the whole state. With that being said, I have missed about two weeks worth of workouts, as I also don't have an indoor trainer. Is there a way I can reload a missed workout on a off day, to keep progress steady? Each time I try, it only dedicates the workout as if I am using a indoor trainer.
Yes! Lots of tips on how to edit your calendar without losing your plan here: support.trainerroad.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016185931-Editing-Your-Calendar
Hey! Sounds like Nate is just using two hypothetical examples to say that all TSS isn't created the same, so while theyre not citing specific workouts, similar would be Black Hawk +4 and Reynolds!
Is there a method or formula for understanding what is the optimum balance of stress/work/tss (per week) during particular phases? Nate touched on it in the middle of the video - reviewing previous data and seeing when too much led to performance decrease (inability to complete workouts).. obviously subjective, but in the context that a week with tss under 600 creates a decrease in fitness score and rpe/feeling of under cooking training...
IMO, even when a formula would be available, it would be difficult to score it correctly since one can't guarantee a daily routine without getting, trouble with the kids, stress at work or other form of stress, vitamin deficiency/minerals, type of bodies, chemical stress. When we train, the body could react in so many ways since almost everybody live in certain ways. The point is, the formula, as any other formula results becomes flawed= by gathering inconsistent data.
This is absolutely right! There isn't a 'one size fits all' approach to assigning TSS per week, as those off-the-bike stressors have such an influential role in training, and everyone's day is so different! Thats why we cover the ways in which you can truly get faster, even with a low weekly TSS!
Im in the mid 50s and have come to realize after Trainer Road, and other programs and a real life human coach, that Im at my limits, and that's what you' as older people have to realize. You can't gain much, but train to keep what you have. Like your VO2, gaining it as a mid 50's dude with health issues. LOL. Train to keep what you have. Change your expectations and you won't be depressed. I have a family, and sole care giver for my mom and work in the ER, in a freaking Covid tent. Ya, i got stress and little time and health issues spinal stenosis, immune disorder, knee replacement, etc.... You older guys gotta realize competitive cycling is a power sport for young people.
So many of our athletes have to balance full lives outside of training, we're glad to help make fitness maintenance and gains possible even with low TSS!
We should include a field for LIFE TSS on the TrainerRoad Calendar: work+commute+stress. :)
Good one! Consistency is king! From years of experience, I think consistency yields better results than striving for a high tss.
I agree, little improvements here and there. It really doesn't take much to overtrain. I learned pretty quick last winter when I was doing too much SS work and not taking days off, I got really sick.
Great video guys! Thanks for sharing
I smashed my weekly TSS from 400-450 to 800 at the end of a 6 week block. I won't be aiming for that again, I'm scared that it'll impede longevity and consistency. It did feel like an achievement though.
DEFINITELY an achievement! Nice!
This was a great segment.
This is very relevant to where I stand as a cyclist. As you may know, California, unfortunately has have fires across the whole state. With that being said, I have missed about two weeks worth of workouts, as I also don't have an indoor trainer. Is there a way I can reload a missed workout on a off day, to keep progress steady? Each time I try, it only dedicates the workout as if I am using a indoor trainer.
Yes! Lots of tips on how to edit your calendar without losing your plan here:
support.trainerroad.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016185931-Editing-Your-Calendar
I’m here for Coach Chad.
Chad is the mozzarella to our pizza pie.
8:49. What are the names of the progression workouts of 4 X 10 min intervals with 5 min rest all the way up to 1x 40min interval?
Hey! Sounds like Nate is just using two hypothetical examples to say that all TSS isn't created the same, so while theyre not citing specific workouts, similar would be Black Hawk +4 and Reynolds!
Is there a method or formula for understanding what is the optimum balance of stress/work/tss (per week) during particular phases? Nate touched on it in the middle of the video - reviewing previous data and seeing when too much led to performance decrease (inability to complete workouts).. obviously subjective, but in the context that a week with tss under 600 creates a decrease in fitness score and rpe/feeling of under cooking training...
IMO, even when a formula would be available, it would be difficult to score it correctly since one can't guarantee a daily routine without getting, trouble with the kids, stress at work or other form of stress, vitamin deficiency/minerals, type of bodies, chemical stress. When we train, the body could react in so many ways since almost everybody live in certain ways. The point is, the formula, as any other formula results becomes flawed= by gathering inconsistent data.
This is absolutely right! There isn't a 'one size fits all' approach to assigning TSS per week, as those off-the-bike stressors have such an influential role in training, and everyone's day is so different! Thats why we cover the ways in which you can truly get faster, even with a low weekly TSS!
That's easy but you're not going to be fast after 2 hours!