Just one cause for concern in your overhaul. In future, you should give the freehub a good cleaning prior to the install of a new cassette. Before the new install, apply a thin layer of quality grease to the freehub and of course torque lockring to proper spec. Nice to see your full rejuvenation process!! Cheers Mate, Pjw
As a die hard fixer upper, make do and mender, there is a point where you realise the cheapest thing to do is start a fresh. If you ride year around then you have to keep on-top of everything or it becomes very expensive. A BB, a cassette, set of pads, chain suddenly your in for £400 with a still very secondhand bike. Or you run several bikes and one day wake up to them all being goosed. After 25 years I landed on 10 year old 29” steel XC MTB (PACE), with a compact chainring, 3 sets of wheels and tyres. So one bike to do everything badly.
How do you know that those are real Shimano parts, I've seen a lot of fake (well made) Shimano parts on Ali Express Also just comparing chain length is wrong, you replace a chain when it's stretched so why would you compare it if it's stretched, and yes it can be as much as a whole link!
Chains don't actually stretch. The inner rollers wear down from use and this leads to less efficient shifting and an increasing gap between each link. The actual length of the chain remains the same.
@@2001MBKBooster if the contact surfaces are wearing down, that will cause a measurable difference in the length of the chain. Measurable by you, with something as simple as a ruler or a proper chain tool. 'stretch' is an appropriate word for this, it causes a real difference. I'm not even quite sure what you were trying to disagree with, the word itself or the physical effect of parts wearing down
Keep these rim brake bikes alive is a good thing.....I've done this stuff on an old 2010 Allez and it still gets ridden....albeit slowly as I'm getting on a bit.....and I got some 28c tyres in it as well with ease = a tad more comfort. Looking forward to how the sponsor's components work.....?
I'm quite amazed, having shown the grim and dirt on the chainset, that you didn't dismantle and clean the front and rear derailleur, or perhaps you did off camera 🤔 (without pressing record). Ride safe.
I've done the same! Need to do all work yourself! I replaced the wheels with carbon ones from Hunt on sale and replaced the BB rest was just clean and maintenance! From the states $500- when I was done came in around $1,200, rides close to my high dollar bike. Elbow grease!!!
@AndyThaiSamui HUNT 36 Carbon Wide Aero Wheelset Price now is 1,000, I got mine on sale about a year ago for 750- I was on a budget but couldn't pass these up. Shop around. Good luck
Also...important point...dont mesaure new chains agaibst old worn chains that could be longer due to wear. Always lay them side by side but also count the libks to ensure the same number.
You REALLY should change these shallow wheels! They look ridiculous on that bike and really don't do the frame justce. Imho the SL4 i oune of the prettiest bike frames, after the Venge Vias.
Great video David! There are some bargains to be found on eBay, I bought a Specialized Ruby this year that had been upgraded to Shimano Ultegra D12, with hydraulic disc brakes for just £500!
That's because this is a thread-together PressFit bottom bracket inside a BB30 bottom bracket shell. It should be fairly commonplace by now. I'm willing to bet that's a Praxis Works bottom bracket.
@yonglingng5640 Praxis is common place? Out of a dozen bikes in our family and only one bike has a PF30 and it works fine. If it creaks, it's only at the crank to spindle interface. A little grease fixes that for at least a season. Never owned any Praxis products or know anyone that has bought a Praxis crankset and bb aftermarket. I guess my crowd knows how to chase creaks or is smart enough to just go threaded.
@@newttella1043 I said that for thread-together PressFit bottom brackets, never did I mention it's commonplace to have Praxis Works bottom brackets everywhere.
Unless the expander plug is really long and there's only a maximum of 20 mm worth of spacers above the stem, you have to cut off excess steerer tube. Let's say this Tarmac SL4 came with a stock stem height of 30 mm and the first owner decides to slam the stem with an extremely flat headset cover, there's almost 30 mm worth of steerer tube above the stem and your expander plug has to be very long in order to still clamp onto reinforced steerer tube. It's also very unsafe to ride with this much excess steerer tube.
Pretty sure there something a miss with your chain and front chainring? Seems to be following a strange line over the large chainring, looking like it’s being pushed into it
Love the video. Seems like Ali express (cost) is a good choice for a 400 pound rebuild. It’s easy to get hung up on going Shimano or SRAM for parts…why not do a redo with Ali? I had a Tarmac SL6 and loved the ride!
The best way to do it is to brace the frame by the surrounding area so that as much of the hammering force gets translated into removing the bearing as possible. But, impactless bottom bracket pullers exist, like one made by BSC Tools. Recommended by the UCI's mechanics course too.
It's always great to bring back a bike. That no one else was going to ride and who needs a ten thousand dollar bicycle. Really? Who needs a $10000 bicycle? Besides a pro and we all know the pros don't pay for their bikes.
28mm wide tires, how it’s possible… I have one 2019 SL4, the last year Specialized have this on their catalog, with Shimano 105 R7000, and I have lots of problems with a simple 25mm tires! I have some newer weels, a pair of the last Vision Trimax 30, with a Continental Grand Sport Race, and even any small misalignment in the wheel, the tire rubs against the chainstain! And I'm very light, 63kg, and unfortunately I don't have the power output of one Pogi to twist the entire bike. I can't wait to see the test on the road, because I don't think it's possible, there's no space!
I was shocked too. I think it might be helped by the rims being very narrow, so this might change with wider rims. Maybe the Goodyear tyres come up narrow? I'll get the calipers on them to check when I get the chance
@@davidarthur maybe it could just be that. In my case, with the stock weels, with some DTsuiss rims, the Continental 25mm runs well, but with the 26mm Specialized Turbo tire tire rubs again. In relation to the my calipers, the 105 R700 there's no problems!
There is no fake shimano cassette on the market,but the chian may be counterfeit.If you ask me why ,i can guarantee because I'm Chinese and shop on Taobao (Chinese version Aliperess)everday😮😮😮
@@mlkjogle Haven't ridden with it yet. It's going on a new frame, also from China. The build and finish seem excellent. Fits perfectly into the Chinese Kactus BB
I do enjoy this channel, however this made me itch all over. Clean the bike FIRST before working on it. Clean the factory grease OFF the chain before shortening, and don't do that on a filthy floor - you had a clean bench available. Fit the chain last and apply the lubricant of your choice so it's not wet or contaminated by anything else you're doing. Sorry but this is not a 'how to' video at all.
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Just one cause for concern in your overhaul. In future, you should give the freehub a good cleaning prior to the install of a new cassette. Before the new install, apply a thin layer of quality grease to the freehub and of course torque lockring to proper spec. Nice to see your full rejuvenation process!! Cheers Mate, Pjw
As a die hard fixer upper, make do and mender, there is a point where you realise the cheapest thing to do is start a fresh. If
you ride year around then you have to keep on-top of everything or it becomes very expensive. A BB, a cassette, set of pads, chain suddenly your in for £400 with a still very secondhand bike. Or you run several bikes and one day wake up to them all being goosed. After 25 years I landed on 10 year old 29” steel XC MTB (PACE), with a compact chainring, 3 sets of wheels and tyres. So one bike to do everything badly.
How do you know that those are real Shimano parts, I've seen a lot of fake (well made) Shimano parts on Ali Express
Also just comparing chain length is wrong, you replace a chain when it's stretched so why would you compare it if it's stretched, and yes it can be as much as a whole link!
Ordering from a site that sends its stuff from the #1 country in the world, with a looong history of production, of counterfeit parts and products 😅
Chains don't actually stretch. The inner rollers wear down from use and this leads to less efficient shifting and an increasing gap between each link. The actual length of the chain remains the same.
Still how do you know the chain had the correct length before@@2001MBKBooster
@@2001MBKBooster if the contact surfaces are wearing down, that will cause a measurable difference in the length of the chain. Measurable by you, with something as simple as a ruler or a proper chain tool. 'stretch' is an appropriate word for this, it causes a real difference. I'm not even quite sure what you were trying to disagree with, the word itself or the physical effect of parts wearing down
Yeah I would have just done small/small technique
What about the brakes? New cables? How well quickly does it stop?
Keep these rim brake bikes alive is a good thing.....I've done this stuff on an old 2010 Allez and it still gets ridden....albeit slowly as I'm getting on a bit.....and I got some 28c tyres in it as well with ease = a tad more comfort.
Looking forward to how the sponsor's components work.....?
I'm quite amazed, having shown the grim and dirt on the chainset, that you didn't dismantle and clean the front and rear derailleur, or perhaps you did off camera 🤔 (without pressing record). Ride safe.
You should be going up in Durianrider’s estimation David. You’re giving love to a clapped out old Tarmac that doesn’t work any more 😂
I've done the same! Need to do all work yourself! I replaced the wheels with carbon ones from Hunt on sale and replaced the BB rest was just clean and maintenance! From the states $500- when I was done came in around $1,200, rides close to my high dollar bike. Elbow grease!!!
Which Hunt wheels did you go for?
@AndyThaiSamui HUNT 36 Carbon Wide Aero Wheelset
Price now is 1,000, I got mine on sale about a year ago for 750- I was on a budget but couldn't pass these up. Shop around. Good luck
Also...important point...dont mesaure new chains agaibst old worn chains that could be longer due to wear. Always lay them side by side but also count the libks to ensure the same number.
No new cables and brake pads?
This is good content, your channel is back on track.
Is the chain sticking to the chainring or whats going on. I noticed it in the building phase, also in the outro... Maybe need to adjust the fd?
I kept watching hoping he's gonna fix it. Nope. Bothered me somewhere deep inside.
very interested to know how those carbon cranks holdup, keep us updated!
Jim will fix it 🤙🤙
You REALLY should change these shallow wheels! They look ridiculous on that bike and really don't do the frame justce. Imho the SL4 i oune of the prettiest bike frames, after the Venge Vias.
I know right, that's the plan for the next video. I've been shopping...
You know that old chain had a quick link right😉
5:29 are those oval chainrings? Looks mental
Great video David! There are some bargains to be found on eBay, I bought a Specialized Ruby this year that had been upgraded to Shimano Ultegra D12, with hydraulic disc brakes for just £500!
I would never have guessed the bb unscrews counter clockwise on the drive side.
That's because this is a thread-together PressFit bottom bracket inside a BB30 bottom bracket shell. It should be fairly commonplace by now. I'm willing to bet that's a Praxis Works bottom bracket.
@yonglingng5640 Praxis is common place? Out of a dozen bikes in our family and only one bike has a PF30 and it works fine. If it creaks, it's only at the crank to spindle interface. A little grease fixes that for at least a season. Never owned any Praxis products or know anyone that has bought a Praxis crankset and bb aftermarket. I guess my crowd knows how to chase creaks or is smart enough to just go threaded.
@@newttella1043 I said that for thread-together PressFit bottom brackets, never did I mention it's commonplace to have Praxis Works bottom brackets everywhere.
Surprised you didn’t tell people about carbon steerer tube expander plug lengths when putting the stem beneath spacers from above?
Why didn't you clean the bike when it was disassembled?!? PS do NOT cut the steerer, what if you want to sell it later?!😮
Don’t buy it if ur a weak dog who can’t handle a slammed cockpit
Unless the expander plug is really long and there's only a maximum of 20 mm worth of spacers above the stem, you have to cut off excess steerer tube.
Let's say this Tarmac SL4 came with a stock stem height of 30 mm and the first owner decides to slam the stem with an extremely flat headset cover, there's almost 30 mm worth of steerer tube above the stem and your expander plug has to be very long in order to still clamp onto reinforced steerer tube. It's also very unsafe to ride with this much excess steerer tube.
Awesome video,the crankset looks a lot like Cannondale's Si cranksets.Looks great in black the Spezialized.💯👌🏻✌🏻🚴♂️
I like your green hoodie who is it made by
no se ha visto la instalación del pedalier
I think you should leave the mechanic work to Mapdec!
How about working with super team to test some classic pro carbon wheels on that bike?
Is the saddle "high end" as claimed?
Pretty sure there something a miss with your chain and front chainring? Seems to be following a strange line over the large chainring, looking like it’s being pushed into it
Love the video. Seems like Ali express (cost) is a good choice for a 400 pound rebuild. It’s easy to get hung up on going Shimano or SRAM for parts…why not do a redo with Ali?
I had a Tarmac SL6 and loved the ride!
Thanks!
How are holding the bike as you pound that bottom bracket? That can't be good
The best way to do it is to brace the frame by the surrounding area so that as much of the hammering force gets translated into removing the bearing as possible.
But, impactless bottom bracket pullers exist, like one made by BSC Tools. Recommended by the UCI's mechanics course too.
Isn't that the saddle that Cade media hated?!?
What cassette wrench did you use?
This one from Feedback Sports saddleback.co.uk/collections/feedback-sports/products/feedback-sports-cassette-pliers
shouldve bought shimano rings, those aliexpress ones will definitley shift poorly.
Copper slip on BB saved you a headache 😂
This bike is better than anything you have tested in 5 yrs, that bike as is with just a wheel upgrade in the hands of Pogi will still win
From Columbia to Cotswolds, that is a very fast bike indeed.
Oh it’s fixed gear. It doesn’t really look like it, but I’ll take your word for it.
Just admit you got a bike shop to do the BB😂
please throw in some deep section wheels in there!
Whoever put that bike together didn`t use a torque wrench 😂😂
Neither did David!
Some bolts you can do up by feel in my experience never had a crank arm fall off 😂
You could have taken out the crankset and the BB and installed them again on camera.
True, I only realised when I got home though and didn't have time to pop back cos I've been under the weather
Why rebuild a bike with Flintstone stoppers?
If you never ride in the rain, it's fine.
It's always great to bring back a bike. That no one else was going to ride and who needs a ten thousand dollar bicycle. Really? Who needs a $10000 bicycle? Besides a pro and we all know the pros don't pay for their bikes.
28mm wide tires, how it’s possible… I have one 2019 SL4, the last year Specialized have this on their catalog, with Shimano 105 R7000, and I have lots of problems with a simple 25mm tires! I have some newer weels, a pair of the last Vision Trimax 30, with a Continental Grand Sport Race, and even any small misalignment in the wheel, the tire rubs against the chainstain! And I'm very light, 63kg, and unfortunately I don't have the power output of one Pogi to twist the entire bike. I can't wait to see the test on the road, because I don't think it's possible, there's no space!
I was shocked too. I think it might be helped by the rims being very narrow, so this might change with wider rims. Maybe the Goodyear tyres come up narrow? I'll get the calipers on them to check when I get the chance
@@davidarthur maybe it could just be that. In my case, with the stock weels, with some DTsuiss rims, the Continental 25mm runs well, but with the 26mm Specialized Turbo tire tire rubs again. In relation to the my calipers, the 105 R700 there's no problems!
I would like to see you hack those wheels to tubeless
Genuine Shimano and Aliexpress don't go well together...
He will throw them in the trash soon enough.
true, he should go for Ztto stuff, much better quality than counterfit shimano products from china
You are right😂
There is no fake shimano cassette on the market,but the chian
may be counterfeit.If you ask me why ,i can guarantee because I'm Chinese and shop on Taobao (Chinese version Aliperess)everday😮😮😮
@@C姓先森Yeah there's only ztto and other brand cassettes. Maybe because it requires tons of effort to make a cassette compared to chains
crash?
Matt black frames starting to look dull and dated.
why buy 105 parts off aliexpress when they’re are much better alternatives that are lighter and ither quality?
The alignment of the tire labels makes me sick 😵💫😂
Ah, well - and Ali Express makes me sick and you promoting them makes me even more sick.
What is that thumbnail...
Put carbon wheels on this bike as it’s just as fast as an SL8….
You need better lighting in the new space
You're right and I'm working on it :)
What’s with the thumbnail?😂
Genuine Chimano parts. 😂 there isn't one genuine thing on Aliexxpress.
Been buying a lot of stuff from AliExpress recently, even that RIRO chainset! It's been good stuff as far as I can tell.
that's good to hear
Would love to your opinion on that. As I ve had it in my basket for a little while and very tempted.
@@mlkjogle Haven't ridden with it yet. It's going on a new frame, also from China. The build and finish seem excellent. Fits perfectly into the Chinese Kactus BB
Give us an update on the chainrings always heard carbon wears super quick. Nice to see a video like this 👍
I do enjoy this channel, however this made me itch all over. Clean the bike FIRST before working on it. Clean the factory grease OFF the chain before shortening, and don't do that on a filthy floor - you had a clean bench available. Fit the chain last and apply the lubricant of your choice so it's not wet or contaminated by anything else you're doing. Sorry but this is not a 'how to' video at all.
No new gear and brake cables?