*off topic:* anyone else wish they would add more stats to the after action report? Like, since there's obviously a new "energy control" meta, there should be a catagory that shows how much energy robinhood stole, or Asafiya distributed etc.
This basically makes a pretty easy to understand, easy to master AFK game to a grindhole disaster. I've been playing this game for years now and - you spoke fast, like really, really fast - and barely covered everything needed to be known here. WAAAY to complex for a game like this. Why did they did this? And big thanks for the explaining!
I know im late here and im not sure how this is viewed now 4 months later but as a returning player who never got all the old artifacts im glad i can just skip that content and get these newer and better collections/artifacts, even with random stats theyre better than the old ones.
i think the inability to level up the collections outside of getting lucky is a little bad of a mechanic. the main skills dont seem amazing without the level ups and its quite sad. really hoping that i either dont know enough or if there really is no other way they allow us to upgrade collections we like with ones we dislike. something like that would be great, heres to hoping i am just not correct and there is another way to level them up without hoping to get lucky.
this system looks way too messy. why didn they make more artifacts more trials of god. this is just too much complisty and too much work to get a singlar good tailored artifact fo one hero
I'm not super keen on this system, but I think it'll add some variety to comps for PVP which is neat. I'm not sure I'm going to keep playing, but I think it'll be neat to see new comps that might be born from these. My worry is it'll just make good heroes better instead of making more heroes and comps viable. Would be nice to have something akin to warframes riven system where each units "collection" is tied to roughly how powerful they are, since they are so unwilling to revisit older heroes who need work. Also limiting the trials but making it random feels pretty terrible, but I don't know enough.
Hey Volkin I've got a question. So after completing the dungeon it asks you to add the glyphs you scavenged to your artifact. But you can do another dungeon run with the same artifact. Do the glyphs from the previous run persist? Or are they overwritten by the new run? I guess is it cumulative?
Why? Literally everything remained the same. The top 10 guys on any server are whales ...so it's not like the artifact system here does anything for us lil fishes.
I don’t get the hate around this one, personally I like it since it essentially add unlimited variety to heroes and gives you the choice of builds, on top of that the collections are straight upgrades from artifacts. What I don’t like is there is way too much time spent here on a game thats suppose to be afk, at most it should be 5 floors, it’s hell of a grind to get up to the 10th, and u can’t auto it cause u have to choose the stats after every encounter.
1) It's going to make following replays in campaign / towers completely impossible, as Collection attributes are going to be randomized 2) It's RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG, only a few rolls per week, with permanent consequences to every game mode. Only way to mitigate is to pay more. 3) Makes artifact switching relevant in every game mode, but costs diamonds or a 24 hour wait to swap. So either you're draining diamonds hand over fist or will be getting lower placement from two or more of TS/CR/NC, let alone trying to progress in Tower or Campaign. The 100 diamond swap limit is probably the biggest anti-QoL feature of this new system.
"Gives you the choice of builds" Yeah i cant wait to get thrown back into diamond five, since now all the artifact's meta for each hero are tied to an annoying rng p2w system, that people have to grind daily, in order to maintain their current ranks. This is simply the ilusion of choice, since every single hero will still have a meta artifact, except now they are p2w, and not easily accessible, like the previous ones
@@user-nh2bf4to7g Yes I agree that 100 diamonds switch is a dick move, there should also be a lot more rolls (like 20 a week) available. As for point 1, having everything as a copy and paste is boring, and the rng is rigged so that everyone is stronger than before, not weaker. Whales are gonna whale regardless, F2P are not competitive in pvp against whales before and won’t be now. If anything, everyone will have a better time doing whatever PVE mode they are doing, I don’t see this as a negative being a F2P myself.
Re-asking a question somebody else did because he didn’t get a response. Let’s say, hypothetically you do 7 runs of the same collection in 1 week. But you don’t like the rolls you got and rerun it… will you have 7 of the same collection? Or every time you go through it rinses it entirely? Or is there a way to keep multiple of the same collection? Sorry any additional clarity here would be appreciated
By dint of seeing new mechanics on this game, I have the impression that it's become a second job to go and get information on reedit or youtube discord or whatever.
It's way to random there should be random heroes everytime but only 10 or 15 of them so it's actually possible to get to thr last floor and there should be one either more of those stuff that we can put on the thing or two more floors so it's not so difficult
Its pretty complecated but i think its done right. This week i will try all of my 7 run and see whats going on and then next week i will try to get some op artifacts.
I'd rather pay ingame resources/real cash for these artifacts than grind & gamble on luck/waiting to get the right upgrades &/or waiting on racking up the legendary/mythic totems, way too time taking.
They already NERFED that to the worse!!! Wich is a scam! These Cards will cost money!! Suddenly from today on you get waaaay more new units. wich decrease the chance to upgrade your 5 main heros ALOT! Why the crap game giving me 12-14 Units?! This was NOT on the previous 2 days! I didnt even had 8! And enemys get way stronger too! Suddenly reaching floor 10 is extremly difficult. How to win a enemy team all mystic, if i keep getting new units, staying just weak elite? wtf.
Bunch of cry babies in the comments lol. Its like dude, literally Nothing changes with this new artifact system for the average low spender. All of the other game modes are still the same and its not forced upon anybody to play this gamemode. Whales literally dominate this game and every other game out there. The doomers on here whining need a baby 🍼
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I remember when this game was pretty easy to understand well it changed a lot :D
We need a tierlist for abillities on this collections for top heroes
Lilith finally found a way to monetize Artifacts...
*off topic:* anyone else wish they would add more stats to the after action report? Like, since there's obviously a new "energy control" meta, there should be a catagory that shows how much energy robinhood stole, or Asafiya distributed etc.
I 100% agree with this, maybe also cc time, shield generated or damage mitigated
@BlueBeBlue ikr? Those would be *great* stats too! Good thinking blue
Think my days of playing are over
Yeah I'm tired too
Lol
Boss i'm tierd can I take a break yet?
Red pill or blue pill?
"Im tired alfred" 😂😂😂
This basically makes a pretty easy to understand, easy to master AFK game to a grindhole disaster.
I've been playing this game for years now and - you spoke fast, like really, really fast - and barely covered everything needed to be known here. WAAAY to complex for a game like this.
Why did they did this?
And big thanks for the explaining!
I know im late here and im not sure how this is viewed now 4 months later but as a returning player who never got all the old artifacts im glad i can just skip that content and get these newer and better collections/artifacts, even with random stats theyre better than the old ones.
The amount of those stuff we can add in before the run should be 1 greatly increased or 2 make them worse but they can be used infinity
wtf - this is way too complicated and messy for an AFK game
This basically gives unit some randomness, max build units basically copy on every accounts. 😊
i think the inability to level up the collections outside of getting lucky is a little bad of a mechanic. the main skills dont seem amazing without the level ups and its quite sad. really hoping that i either dont know enough or if there really is no other way they allow us to upgrade collections we like with ones we dislike. something like that would be great, heres to hoping i am just not correct and there is another way to level them up without hoping to get lucky.
Even without the +1 skill I got on my Mulan +25 CDA, +13%Def, +PP,+FULL DEF, dude these stats you ain't getting from engrave 80 and here we are
They should just delete this gallery and artifact replacement scheme and pretend it never happened
Appreciate it! Been doing this for two weeks now and I learned a couple things from your video.
ya... this is just want i want.. more rng and time sink in an "afk" game
this system looks way too messy. why didn they make more artifacts more trials of god.
this is just too much complisty and too much work to get a singlar good tailored artifact fo one hero
I'm not super keen on this system, but I think it'll add some variety to comps for PVP which is neat. I'm not sure I'm going to keep playing, but I think it'll be neat to see new comps that might be born from these. My worry is it'll just make good heroes better instead of making more heroes and comps viable. Would be nice to have something akin to warframes riven system where each units "collection" is tied to roughly how powerful they are, since they are so unwilling to revisit older heroes who need work. Also limiting the trials but making it random feels pretty terrible, but I don't know enough.
Seems super easy to reach floor 10, but it hardly matters without being a whale. You still get mostly legendary stuff anyway 😅
Hey Volkin I've got a question. So after completing the dungeon it asks you to add the glyphs you scavenged to your artifact. But you can do another dungeon run with the same artifact. Do the glyphs from the previous run persist? Or are they overwritten by the new run? I guess is it cumulative?
Following, I had this SAME question!
Damn still no answer on this was wondering also
This is a worst nightmare update. I need to looking for a new game... 😔
Why? Literally everything remained the same. The top 10 guys on any server are whales ...so it's not like the artifact system here does anything for us lil fishes.
I feel burned out.
I don’t get the hate around this one, personally I like it since it essentially add unlimited variety to heroes and gives you the choice of builds, on top of that the collections are straight upgrades from artifacts. What I don’t like is there is way too much time spent here on a game thats suppose to be afk, at most it should be 5 floors, it’s hell of a grind to get up to the 10th, and u can’t auto it cause u have to choose the stats after every encounter.
1) It's going to make following replays in campaign / towers completely impossible, as Collection attributes are going to be randomized
2) It's RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG, only a few rolls per week, with permanent consequences to every game mode. Only way to mitigate is to pay more.
3) Makes artifact switching relevant in every game mode, but costs diamonds or a 24 hour wait to swap. So either you're draining diamonds hand over fist or will be getting lower placement from two or more of TS/CR/NC, let alone trying to progress in Tower or Campaign. The 100 diamond swap limit is probably the biggest anti-QoL feature of this new system.
"Gives you the choice of builds" Yeah i cant wait to get thrown back into diamond five, since now all the artifact's meta for each hero are tied to an annoying rng p2w system, that people have to grind daily, in order to maintain their current ranks. This is simply the ilusion of choice, since every single hero will still have a meta artifact, except now they are p2w, and not easily accessible, like the previous ones
@@user-nh2bf4to7g Yes I agree that 100 diamonds switch is a dick move, there should also be a lot more rolls (like 20 a week) available. As for point 1, having everything as a copy and paste is boring, and the rng is rigged so that everyone is stronger than before, not weaker. Whales are gonna whale regardless, F2P are not competitive in pvp against whales before and won’t be now. If anything, everyone will have a better time doing whatever PVE mode they are doing, I don’t see this as a negative being a F2P myself.
Ok this is too much for me. I quit this game. You have to invest too much time for resources. What an "afk" game...
Thanks anyway mate. Its too complicated to explain so i have to do what I normally do. Wing it till i work it out.
Re-asking a question somebody else did because he didn’t get a response. Let’s say, hypothetically you do 7 runs of the same collection in 1 week. But you don’t like the rolls you got and rerun it… will you have 7 of the same collection? Or every time you go through it rinses it entirely? Or is there a way to keep multiple of the same collection? Sorry any additional clarity here would be appreciated
Off Topic: I wish they added TD like event to the game just like they do to the Candy Crush game mode....I would love to see that
Yeah I'm just going to wait and hope they make it not awful.
Tbh I don't really like this one. But I had the same emotions toward pets and I got used to them after awhile so I guess that's okay
By dint of seeing new mechanics on this game, I have the impression that it's become a second job to go and get information on reedit or youtube discord or whatever.
It's way to random there should be random heroes everytime but only 10 or 15 of them so it's actually possible to get to thr last floor and there should be one either more of those stuff that we can put on the thing or two more floors so it's not so difficult
Skill issue
They are ruining our lovely game
I'm confused , do we still keep the artifacts ?
yes we keep artifacts but you can now swap them out for a collection if you want
Are they really better than artifacts? Whats happenins to artifacts?
Yes the stats addition makes them considerably better, artifacts are now a relic of a forgotten era.
Bro i feel like i need to study the game to understand 🙂
Its pretty complecated but i think its done right. This week i will try all of my 7 run and see whats going on and then next week i will try to get some op artifacts.
If your not getting the LVlup its basically a garbage run even if u have amazing stats if your still at lvl0 skill its basically useless
I'd rather pay ingame resources/real cash for these artifacts than grind & gamble on luck/waiting to get the right upgrades &/or waiting on racking up the legendary/mythic totems, way too time taking.
Personally looking forward to this event more, seems fun.
Mystic Starzone was a bust!
Who knows maybe the new collections will make Walker viable 😂
if ivan doesnt make him viable nothing will
@@Volteccer1Perhaps Lilith is secretly telling us that they hate Chuck Norris?
@@jasonc3589man, id love to ask lilith in a Q&A, "what exactly was the point of alaro and walker?" I need an explanation bad lol
What does a bust mean?
Why are you so fast this time? Are you in a rush volkin? 😅 a bit stressy
They already NERFED that to the worse!!! Wich is a scam! These Cards will cost money!!
Suddenly from today on you get waaaay more new units. wich decrease the chance to upgrade your 5 main heros ALOT!
Why the crap game giving me 12-14 Units?! This was NOT on the previous 2 days! I didnt even had 8!
And enemys get way stronger too!
Suddenly reaching floor 10 is extremly difficult.
How to win a enemy team all mystic, if i keep getting new units, staying just weak elite? wtf.
I am not a fan of this system.
Bunch of cry babies in the comments lol. Its like dude, literally Nothing changes with this new artifact system for the average low spender. All of the other game modes are still the same and its not forced upon anybody to play this gamemode. Whales literally dominate this game and every other game out there. The doomers on here whining need a baby 🍼
too lazy to read this new artifact
This is crap, just unnecessarily complicating the game.
This does not bring me joy.
thx volkin... this change is tiresome
I don't like it