What a fantastic instrument, it certainly has a very contemporary look about it that wouldn't be out of place in a more modern setting (after a dust and polish, of course!)
What a fantastic demonstration of such a fascinating instrument. I've heard a lot about this organ but had not researched it myself: I loved Simon's demonstration and playing of the Tuba tune. Bravo all!!!!
The Grove has to be one of my favourite organs that I have played on; it has so much character and is such a fascinating instrument because it has no casework, and you can see all the workings.
Sometime in the 90s, when the Milton was undergoing one of its restorations, I played this for a colleague’s wedding. Easy playing and very adaptable if I remember correctly.
Very enjoyable. I know nothing about music or playing the organ but this is a wonderful instrument. Of course, no organ is of any use without the Organist. Thank you Simon and to Richard for putting it on BIS
I am so glad I had the chance to experience the organ in action, it is an amazing instrument, but so very complicated if you know nothing about it. Thanks for the demonstration.
Bravo, Richard, for documenting this historic and rare (if not unique) instrument that always seems so unduly neglected. And thank goodness that Tewkesbury's 'home team' are willing and able to champion it!
What a unique treasure! I'm struck by seeing so much of the prospect of the instrument feature the elegant tall tapered string rank in front, which perhaps could be labeled "Gemshorn 16'" if it was built in the US in the middle of the 20th century, which I surmise may be the Great 16' Violon or possibly the Pedal 16' Dolce. Doubly elegant to have the 16' be a hybrid string/flute tone.
Really well made video , many thanks have heard all 3 organs even played at a concert some year's ago together did not know the present state of the Grove organ, but is much bettet than I thought , the Tuba tune shows how good it still is along with the playing skill so many thanks
Have to agree with others comments a wonderful instrument and amazing that it is still is existence. The lack of any casing would possibly explain such lovely bright tones that are produced from this historic instrument
wow tonally this beauty sounds amazing and what a great Tuba Happy Christmas Richard and simon Bell. reginald Porter Browns tuba tune would sound awesome on this organ. had the pleasure of hearing this played at Arundel cathedral a few weeks ago another wonderful organ.was great to visit the organ loft.
Thank you Richard. This was a cracker! I'll need to re-read Mr Sumner's book - admittedly rather elderly by now - to see if he refers to the Grove organ other than in passing. Three of his obvious favourites were St Paul's, Truro and Beverley, yet it seems as though the Grove, in full working condition, would equal the ringing beauty of Beverley Minster.
Much appreciated. Thanks for showcasing this singularly interesting instrument with a truly unique combination of actions. I really enjoyed this presentation.
What a neat instrument! Any thoughts of sampling for Hauptwerk to raise some funds? Certainly seems like a unique Victorian survivor worthy of preservation!
It was, I believe, their first and only collaboration. Imagine what they could have done if they had stuck together! I think they failed to sell this one and couldn't afford to carry on 😢
Sounds pretty convincing for an 'unplayable' instrument. Surely a couple of days tuning and a carefully chosen and executed programme could yield a worthwhile full length recording?
I believe "Thynne" is pronounced "Tyne", as in Newcastle upon, not "thin"! Unless Simon is a Goon Show fan? Grytpype-Thynne and all that. By the way, Carlton Cumberbatch Michell was a relative of the famous actor Benedict Cumberbatch - the lineage is traceable using ancestry sites. He spent some time in the USA, working for the Austin organ company, including during the time when Robert Hope-Jones was also there - the two did not get on!
Is this the only organ without a case? I remember seeing it some years ago and wondering if some clever person could couple both organs together ( like the Stephans dom in Vienna)?
@RichardHarrold1991 Which is why we are very grateful the 1948 scheme with the famous Walker 5 manual console was never completed, as it would have involved a pitch change!
What a fantastic instrument, it certainly has a very contemporary look about it that wouldn't be out of place in a more modern setting (after a dust and polish, of course!)
What a fantastic demonstration of such a fascinating instrument. I've heard a lot about this organ but had not researched it myself: I loved Simon's demonstration and playing of the Tuba tune. Bravo all!!!!
The Grove has to be one of my favourite organs that I have played on; it has so much character and is such a fascinating instrument because it has no casework, and you can see all the workings.
So glad you were able to record the Grove organ- it's a very special instrument!
Sometime in the 90s, when the Milton was undergoing one of its restorations, I played this for a colleague’s wedding. Easy playing and very adaptable if I remember correctly.
Very enjoyable. I know nothing about music or playing the organ but this is a wonderful instrument. Of course, no organ is of any use without the Organist. Thank you Simon and to Richard for putting it on BIS
a great demonstration of this historic instrument.
Thank you, the organ is totally fabulous and Tuba tune music and playing equally so!! 🎹
This one is certainly unique and is just wonderful! It would make a great Hauptwerk organ. Hint, hint, Richard.
I am so glad I had the chance to experience the organ in action, it is an amazing instrument, but so very complicated if you know nothing about it. Thanks for the demonstration.
Bravo, Richard, for documenting this historic and rare (if not unique) instrument that always seems so unduly neglected. And thank goodness that Tewkesbury's 'home team' are willing and able to champion it!
She's a marvellous machine - unfortunately, the longer you play it for, the more things go wrong. In my time she's never been remotely reliable!
Wow! What amazing organ! Those reeds (without exception) are glorious!
Brilliant Tuba in Lang Tuba Tune!! Sounds great on this organ!!
What a unique treasure! I'm struck by seeing so much of the prospect of the instrument feature the elegant tall tapered string rank in front, which perhaps could be labeled "Gemshorn 16'" if it was built in the US in the middle of the 20th century, which I surmise may be the Great 16' Violon or possibly the Pedal 16' Dolce. Doubly elegant to have the 16' be a hybrid string/flute tone.
Now I get why this instrument is so praised. What a beautiful tonal palette and a wonderful chorus too.
What a beautiful organ! I do not think I have ever heard an organ built after the Baroque with such a high tuning.
Great demonstration of a really interesting instrument. Here’s hoping it can be preserved.
Thanks for this loooong due recording !
Thank you for this informative and inspiring demonstration of this very beautiful - beautiful to hear and beautiful to see - pipe organ!
Love this instrument!
Absolutely Glorious. Thank you Richard and Simon.
Love it
This is a very interesting organ. One of a kind. Thanks to Simon for the demonstration.
Really well made video , many thanks have heard all 3 organs even played at a concert some year's ago together did not know the present state of the Grove organ, but is much bettet than I thought , the Tuba tune shows how good it still is along with the playing skill so many thanks
Yes! Wonderful, musician and instrument.
What a fabulous instrument!
Wishing Richard, Caroline and everyone at BIS a Very Happy Christmas and Best Wishes for the New Year from Maynooth in Ireland.
Have to agree with others comments a wonderful instrument and amazing that it is still is existence. The lack of any casing would possibly explain such lovely bright tones that are produced from this historic instrument
A fabulous instrument! Hope in a good and sympathetic restoration as soon as possible!
wow tonally this beauty sounds amazing and what a great Tuba Happy Christmas Richard and simon Bell. reginald Porter Browns tuba tune would sound awesome on this organ. had the pleasure of hearing this played at Arundel cathedral a few weeks ago another wonderful organ.was great to visit the organ loft.
Thanks for this Richard, a very important documentation of this wonderful instrument, sounds great even with the cypher!
Thank you Richard. This was a cracker! I'll need to re-read Mr Sumner's book - admittedly rather elderly by now - to see if he refers to the Grove organ other than in passing. Three of his obvious favourites were St Paul's, Truro and Beverley, yet it seems as though the Grove, in full working condition, would equal the ringing beauty of Beverley Minster.
Great demonstration
Much appreciated. Thanks for showcasing this singularly interesting instrument with a truly unique combination of actions. I really enjoyed this presentation.
That organ is very deserving of a thorough restoration and maybe furniture work around it with plexiglass inserts to show the mechanics of the organ.
love it!
What a neat instrument! Any thoughts of sampling for Hauptwerk to raise some funds? Certainly seems like a unique Victorian survivor worthy of preservation!
What cool organ.
Woooow!
My local church organ is by Beale & Thynne, looks like Thynne also partnered with Michell for a few organs. This must have been their Magnum opus!
It was, I believe, their first and only collaboration. Imagine what they could have done if they had stuck together! I think they failed to sell this one and couldn't afford to carry on 😢
Sounds pretty convincing for an 'unplayable' instrument. Surely a couple of days tuning and a carefully chosen and executed programme could yield a worthwhile full length recording?
It is rather fabulous isn‘t it? Probably needs restoration, which would be more than worth it.
Look at those cobwebs!!
Very interesting organ but how can the choir be tracker action if the organ case is in the opposing transept?
The organ console for the Grove is adjacent to the organ on the East side of the instrument - at 90 degrees to the facade
I believe "Thynne" is pronounced "Tyne", as in Newcastle upon, not "thin"! Unless Simon is a Goon Show fan? Grytpype-Thynne and all that. By the way, Carlton Cumberbatch Michell was a relative of the famous actor Benedict Cumberbatch - the lineage is traceable using ancestry sites. He spent some time in the USA, working for the Austin organ company, including during the time when Robert Hope-Jones was also there - the two did not get on!
Is this the only organ without a case? I remember seeing it some years ago and wondering if some clever person could couple both organs together ( like the Stephans dom in Vienna)?
It's not A=440 is it?
Nope, A440 is C523.3, Victorian pitch was C540.
@RichardHarrold1991 Which is why we are very grateful the 1948 scheme with the famous Walker 5 manual console was never completed, as it would have involved a pitch change!
@@simonbell4050 I always thought it was a shame that scheme wasn't completed. The KJ organ has never impressed, frankly.
Not a professional but it sounds glorious
Prefer it to the Milton.