As a die hard yz250 rider and builder this is everything I’ve ever asked of Yamaha as an enduro rider. If Yamaha would sell the yz with e start id never have a reason to leave the brand
Thanks for the info guys. I've had all the YZFs since the first 400 and also a WRF 250 Which i turned to 270 with Athena kit. Since 2020 I have the Sherco 300FSE (2T), which i love. My question is. Is the XEF310 just and oversised WRF with fancy mapping or have they done anything on flywheel, crankshaft and conrod? Thanks in advance
Hello mate, Two questions: i'm a owner of an XEF250 4stroke, do you think there is an improvement on the lugging in low revs on the 310? I mean, i love the 250 and i'm confortable with the pull of it from mid to high. I'm just not very confortable with the always constant risk of bike stall when i'm crawling technical trails in low revs. I'm currently looking for a 300cc Enduro 2 stroke add to my garage. My favourite bike 2stroke is a Beta 300RR Racing 22 or higher. Can you quick compare this two? Beta 300RR Racing and this fantic? I have the impression that this fantic will be more similar to a TM 300Fi 2 stroke than towards the Beta engine deliver and friendly usability. Thank you for sharing your review of the bikes.
Hi, it's a decent improvement over the 250 in that way. Not just for the extra power, which makes it more useful in all riding conditions, but also because of the things Salvini is talking about in the video. The 250 needs the same development of the fuel delivery IMO. I rode the 310 on the rocks and deliberately in low revs a lot and didn't find the stalling anything like the 250. Two-stroker compared to others on the market is difficult without a back-to-back test. They are different horses in how they all feel for sure because of different chassis' and suspension etc. But the engine character on the Fantic is great, like the EXC/TE300/EC300 but stronger I think. And yeah, like the TM feels stronger tin that wat. Hope that helps. 👍
@@jonpearsonbiketester yes it helped thank you. About my 250, the short story is, i love the high rev 250f japan style engines, but the downside is the low rev usability that we can only find on the enduro EU bikes :( Recent Japanese bikes, never find this!! The 250 is constantly reminding me that i'm using a mx bike with some "soft ECU map" but the nature of the engine always comes up in the low revs ...... About the 2stroke, i just want ot avoid "enduro racing weapons" like TM300 that in my opinion, is only for PRO's and not for hard enduro mellow situations. I want a 2 stroke for riding with friends, mostly hard/extreme enduro slow conditions. The bike got to have punch yes, but the punch is for helping and not for ripping my body :) Again thank you so much for your inputs. Please continue with your good work!
@@joaofranca4996 hello mate i work at a fantic dealership and i had the chanche to do some meters on the 300. sadly not offroad just on the street but i was very impressed by the power delivery and the chanches the map switch can do. it makes very good power in the low and mid rpm and the soft map is very forgiving. you can put in the hard map and the bike will just pull and pull and then you switch to the soft map and the power valve will realy do its job and makes it very ridable.
Fantic is buying the base bikes from Yamaha. Fantic gets the up to date technology with almost no delay and puts their twist on it, in some cases develops this baseline beyond like the XE300 which is a YZ250 in the core. The deal between Fantic and Yamaha is protecting Yamaha's market share in the US.
If you were going to the dealership with your money would you consider the fantic Make or would you go KTM like every one else to compete in the British Enduro championship sprint, cross country, extreme
Get on a new gas gas and this just can’t compete, the ergonomics are still the same as a yz and for enduro they are just not as good, when the pace gets fast it’s awesome, it’s different granted but the likes of gas gas, Ktm, beta and Sherco are still a more viable buy for enduro riding
5sp gearboxes are fine if the spacing is right. One of my favorite enduro engines ever, and only a 250, was freakin awesome with just a 5sp trans. With a properly spaced 5sp and a 300 there should be no issues. As for the chassis you don't need to make changes if it was great to begin with and it still is when compared to any more modern chassis. Change just for the sake of change is not a winning strategy.
@@WildAzzRacing sorry but that’s nonsense the chassis was designed for motocross its stiff with high pegs low front end , as for the tranny we have all tried a million times to convert a YZ into an enduro bike and its not even close to a modern purpose built enduro. That bike should have at least been based on the latest chassis the same as the four stroke and had a 6 speed because in essence all it is is a big bore yz250 which quite frankly would have been better off keeping the carb to match the rest of the bikes out dated spec
Hey, I take your points but it's not true to say they don't work for enduro. Just look at the video. It's covered a lot in the test reports on Enduro21 too. Fantic did take more enduro world titles than any manufacturer last season. My own YZ250 makes a really good enduro bike with a hydraulic clutch and Smartcarb. You need to ride this 300 then get back to us!@@motoboggle7525
Hey, that's because it is. All Fantics are built using the Yamaha chassis'. The 310 is the 250 Yamaha engine basically with six-speed and a big bore cylinder.
Brutta esperienza di un anno scarso con la Fantic xef 450...un cancello per niente adatto per fare l'enduro nostrano.Data in permuta con sole 17 ore di utilizzo per una moto nata specificatamente per fare enduro anche tosto.Spero che il 300 2t sia migliore delle sorelle 4t
As a die hard yz250 rider and builder this is everything I’ve ever asked of Yamaha as an enduro rider. If Yamaha would sell the yz with e start id never have a reason to leave the brand
Same lol
lovin the idea of the 310 for a trail bike
Are they coming here down under Australia & New Zealand.
I hope they bring these out in mx version. Cool to see fantic developing these Yams
Keep grinding pal!! I think that it could be of use to research a service such as S M Zeus.
Thanks for the info guys. I've had all the YZFs since the first 400 and also a WRF 250 Which i turned to 270 with Athena kit. Since 2020 I have the Sherco 300FSE (2T), which i love. My question is. Is the XEF310 just and oversised WRF with fancy mapping or have they done anything on flywheel, crankshaft and conrod? Thanks in advance
very nice bikes
Mille volte meglio le sorelle Yamaha.
Is the 310 same as the 250, but with an Athena big bore kit?
Hello mate, Two questions:
i'm a owner of an XEF250 4stroke, do you think there is an improvement on the lugging in low revs on the 310? I mean, i love the 250 and i'm confortable with the pull of it from mid to high. I'm just not very confortable with the always constant risk of bike stall when i'm crawling technical trails in low revs.
I'm currently looking for a 300cc Enduro 2 stroke add to my garage. My favourite bike 2stroke is a Beta 300RR Racing 22 or higher. Can you quick compare this two? Beta 300RR Racing and this fantic? I have the impression that this fantic will be more similar to a TM 300Fi 2 stroke than towards the Beta engine deliver and friendly usability.
Thank you for sharing your review of the bikes.
Hi, it's a decent improvement over the 250 in that way. Not just for the extra power, which makes it more useful in all riding conditions, but also because of the things Salvini is talking about in the video. The 250 needs the same development of the fuel delivery IMO. I rode the 310 on the rocks and deliberately in low revs a lot and didn't find the stalling anything like the 250. Two-stroker compared to others on the market is difficult without a back-to-back test. They are different horses in how they all feel for sure because of different chassis' and suspension etc. But the engine character on the Fantic is great, like the EXC/TE300/EC300 but stronger I think. And yeah, like the TM feels stronger tin that wat. Hope that helps. 👍
@@jonpearsonbiketester yes it helped thank you. About my 250, the short story is, i love the high rev 250f japan style engines, but the downside is the low rev usability that we can only find on the enduro EU bikes :( Recent Japanese bikes, never find this!! The 250 is constantly reminding me that i'm using a mx bike with some "soft ECU map" but the nature of the engine always comes up in the low revs ......
About the 2stroke, i just want ot avoid "enduro racing weapons" like TM300 that in my opinion, is only for PRO's and not for hard enduro mellow situations. I want a 2 stroke for riding with friends, mostly hard/extreme enduro slow conditions. The bike got to have punch yes, but the punch is for helping and not for ripping my body :)
Again thank you so much for your inputs. Please continue with your good work!
@@joaofranca4996
hello mate i work at a fantic dealership and i had the chanche to do some meters on the 300.
sadly not offroad just on the street but i was very impressed by the power delivery and the chanches the map switch can do.
it makes very good power in the low and mid rpm and the soft map is very forgiving.
you can put in the hard map and the bike will just pull and pull and then you switch to the soft map and the power valve will realy do its job and makes it very ridable.
@@swissjanu3455 thank you for the feedback. I'm looking forward to put my hands on the XE300....As far as i know, they didn't arrive to Portugal yet.
Do you know if this uses the Athena big bore kit?
The 310 you mean? Yes, it is but they have worked a lot on the electronics side to make rideable.
@@videoenduro21 But do you mean just the mapping on the GET ECU which I imagine is the same as the 250?
Does the 300 have a 5 or 6 speed? What about Estart? Counterbalancer?
5 speed as its not enough space in old YZ cases. I call it overpriced frankenstein
Why are Fantics still not available in the US?
Hey, more info is on the website as ever including get answer to that one. They should be and it looks like they will do...just not yet.
Fantic is buying the base bikes from Yamaha. Fantic gets the up to date technology with almost no delay and puts their twist on it, in some cases develops this baseline beyond like the XE300 which is a YZ250 in the core. The deal between Fantic and Yamaha is protecting Yamaha's market share in the US.
@@Dierk200185 except not in enduro/off-road (more so in MX) so these bikes should make it to the US. More about this subject on Enduro21. 👍
If you were going to the dealership with your money would you consider the fantic
Make or would you go KTM like every one else to compete in the British Enduro championship sprint, cross country, extreme
Yep, we would consider them. A look around the BEC and British Extreme paddock and you will see a wide range of bike manufacturers. 👍
Hi, which one is better for hardenduro (Romaniacs,...)?
Hi, sorry for the delay, the 300 2T. I've competed hard enduro on both with 2T and 4T bikes but for Romaniacs a two-stroke works better overall.
@@videoenduro21 thank you
Just like Beta 350. No engine breaking.
The two-stroke frame looks to be the old GasGas or an I confusing this with Rieju?
Yep, you're a little confused.The Fantics use Yamaha frames and chassis. More details are on Enduro21.com 👍
The 2-stroke frame is a 2005-current Yamaha YZ250 chassis
Never heard of it and looking at the bike they didn't put the name on the bike anywhere
???
@@videoenduro21 l.did see it on the 4 stroke not the 2 stroke.I've still never heard of that company
Get on a new gas gas and this just can’t compete, the ergonomics are still the same as a yz and for enduro they are just not as good, when the pace gets fast it’s awesome, it’s different granted but the likes of gas gas, Ktm, beta and Sherco are still a more viable buy for enduro riding
Unfortunately its floored for a lot of people being its a 5 speed (T2) that 20 year old chassis and black tank are red flags
5sp gearboxes are fine if the spacing is right. One of my favorite enduro engines ever, and only a 250, was freakin awesome with just a 5sp trans. With a properly spaced 5sp and a 300 there should be no issues. As for the chassis you don't need to make changes if it was great to begin with and it still is when compared to any more modern chassis. Change just for the sake of change is not a winning strategy.
@@WildAzzRacing sorry but that’s nonsense the chassis was designed for motocross its stiff with high pegs low front end , as for the tranny we have all tried a million times to convert a YZ into an enduro bike and its not even close to a modern purpose built enduro.
That bike should have at least been based on the latest chassis the same as the four stroke and had a 6 speed because in essence all it is is a big bore yz250 which quite frankly would have been better off keeping the carb to match the rest of the bikes out dated spec
Hey, I take your points but it's not true to say they don't work for enduro. Just look at the video. It's covered a lot in the test reports on Enduro21 too. Fantic did take more enduro world titles than any manufacturer last season. My own YZ250 makes a really good enduro bike with a hydraulic clutch and Smartcarb. You need to ride this 300 then get back to us!@@motoboggle7525
What a load of nonsense 😂
Engine on 310 looks like Yamaha engine.
Hey, that's because it is. All Fantics are built using the Yamaha chassis'. The 310 is the 250 Yamaha engine basically with six-speed and a big bore cylinder.
Brutta esperienza di un anno scarso con la Fantic xef 450...un cancello per niente adatto per fare l'enduro nostrano.Data in permuta con sole 17 ore di utilizzo per una moto nata specificatamente per fare enduro anche tosto.Spero che il 300 2t sia migliore delle sorelle 4t