This is perfect for acoustic acts who want the ability to stream live. I can see someone pairing this with one of those battery powered speakers like the Maui 5 go and having a really cool all battery powered rig.
Very smart choice in setup, sliders are a must to me. But I don't see myself going through a lot of menus. The support pillars are not quite enough to stabilize your smartphone or tablet. Cool extra is when using a tablet all cables and plugs are hidden! I recently already made my choice for an old school 8 channel mixer, with no audio interface.
Great review. I had a xAir 16; I sold it because it was unreliable. The built-in ether-net system was unstable. Also, the system occasionally froze during live performances. So, I am skeptical about Behringer wireless devices. But this FLOW 8 looks great. At least the volume can be controlled physically. Questions: (1) Does the FLOW 8 record the scenes internally, or is that info recorded in the tablet memory? (I ask because if the tablet connection died, you could switch to a new scene that you knew worked, if the info resided in the FLOW 8.) (2) How reliable is the built-in ether-net? (3) Does the FLOW 8 include a LAN jack for a hard-wired connection to the control device? Thanks for an excellent video clip.
I like having one mixer with everything you need, eq, compressor, effects and more. Like the high pass filter for shaping vocals. The compressor can work for limiting. Effects work great. I bring this mixer in a rack and everything to get it working.
Interesting new option for sure! Any word on pricing? Probably great for a singer/musician youtuber/live streamer. I chose the Rodecaster Pro myself because I wanted individual channel mute buttons right at the front for quick access plus cables going out the back of the unit instead of the top makes it easier to fit on a crowded desk with a computer, etc (I fit mine under my monitor between my keyboard and monitor, cables out the back make it work here).
I would actually very much prefer the huuuge routing and fx possibilities of the X Air mixers, and would even say they are barely less portable thanks to the builtin PSU and not having any faders on the panel. Plus you get Wifi + Ethernet + MIDI + all balanced inputs and so on.
I don't think you'd get 5 motorized faders changing scenes together from 5V 2A while keeping everything else running in this unit. At least their is no proprietary power brick to carry around.
@@erwickdsouza Yeah well, you might take it for granted but I come from a time of heavy, bulky analog mixers and racks of fx. Modern musicians dont know how lucky they are!
@@officialWWM I use a bunch of analog gear myself. Doesn't mean I hold them in holy regard. When digital was embraced our industry held on to "Analog sound" for way too long. It's unnecessary and it's holding us back.
Looks like an interesting desk for small events or installs. Shame there aren’t any motorised faders though, gives me flashbacks to using my old StudioLive desk with an iPad and having to adjust all the levels when I got back to FOH.
Yeah the Studio Live was deceptive in its promises. With “recall” it just showed with the level meters where you had left the fader, it didn’t recall them, and gain was definitely not recallable. Cant believe this unit can’t save and recall both.
This would be great for a small venue - the sound tech could tweak remotely, and the musos can use it onstage to mix themselves. Nice niche solution for some things
Remote control is bluetooth, not WiFi, like the XRs. I wouldn't use it in a venue bigger than a living room. It would be fine to self-mix on stage though.
Great video. interesting device. I'm interested in what they're going to charge. Behringer has gone from laughing stock to serious contender in recent years due to the success of their digital stuff - I admit I still have some bias against them after buying one of their small mixers 5 years ago. It was terribly noisy. But people seem to like their digital mixers these days and they're certainly killing it in terms of price. I wonder what this one will go for. If it's inexpensive enough, it could sell tons and tons.
I had their 2222 mixer and the abysmal sound over USB was the only downside, a terrific mixer for the money, nothing compared to their older eurostuff from the 90s. they've come a long way baby^^
Behringer have made so much money in the past with their cheap shabby products , now they making expensive products half the price than any brands, they have done really well last few years
Being able to use a monitor send as a external stereo/mono effects aux is pretty cool. Would be better if Behringer added a pre/post fader option on the monitor mixer page to enhance this workflow.
I would be surprised if that was a place they would cut costs... more likely something that may be possible or could show up in a future firmware update. I'll mention it to them & if users do too after they start shipping, that's the kind of thing they tend to try to address if it's possible through an update. Thanks for the great comments though.
Thank you for the detailed review! I was thinking about this, but now when the price is same as for XR12, I was wondering if FLOW 8 also shares same effects and all dsp with xr32, because they are big deal and very usable. So far I could not figure it out, it seems like FLOW software is different and probably simpler, stripped down version, also probably does not have so much computing power through usb to handle so much.
Soo, I never got a ping for this video, but I will probably be getting one of these for my bands rehersals. No need to wheel around a wing when it's not necessary.
Yeah, if you can fit a rehearsal into 8 channels, the Wing would definitely be a lot to carry around! Thanks for checking out the video, let us know if you pick one up and what you think of it!
This could be super useful for lots of my smaller gigs! My only issue with it is why bluetooth instead of wifi!? Its like they're saying we have the freedom to move around and mix, but never more than a few steps away!
It will be interesting to see how it all works in a room full of other bluetooth devices. Might be a while before we can test that though. Thanks Nicholae!
Honestly, the X-Air range is excellent, and has even more features than this guy does. Pricing is super fair, since none of the boxes have controls on them.
Interesting how Thomann sell the XR18 for $433 but North American shops like Sweetwater are closer to $600 - might be part of the reason folks are excited about a cheaper option. $265 at thomann vs $389 Sweetwater on the XR12 at the moment.
I like it and I think it would give me good results in my acoustic performances. But I would like to know if I want to record the performance in cubase for example, would each channel go to a different track of the cubase. For example I put the guitar channel 1, voice channel 2 and drum machine channel 3, would each channel go to a different track of the cubase? or on the contrary, the whole mix would go to a single track of the cubase. Cheers
Hey Carlos, yes in Cubase you’d be able to select the tracks individually or you can select the L/R mix. You get the eight individual channels + stereo L/R over USB into the computer. Thanks for the message!
Quick question: How's the output noise floor? I sometimes do live music for yoga and meditation and there's nothing worse than the dreaded hiss from the PA/mixer. I just bought an analog behringer mixer but it's so noisy and will be returning it! Thanks :-)
That's a great question - what are you connecting the mixer to next in the system? Do you have powered speakers hooked straight up, or are you going through other gear or a stand-alone amp? Let me know what your setup is currently.
I prefer my Zoom R24s (1 at home and 1at my rehearsal room). They do EVERYTHING and even run on batteries, have a sequencer-looper and are stand-alone recorders.
I'll have to get some more of Zoom's stuff in for a video soon, their booth is always a ton of fun at the trade shows & they certainly have some unique gear. Thanks for the message!
Hi, great video, thanks! 2 questions for podcasting, to set up mix-minus for remote guests: 1. can you configure which channels to send to Monitors 1 & 2? 2. can you send audio BACK via bluetooth and select what to send back? is it maybe hidden under the „mixer snapshots“? Thanks!
Don‘t worry about it, I‘ve found out :) Question 1: yes, easily, just click in the app at the mixer page on „MON 1“ or „MON 2“ and mute wichever channel you don‘t want to include. Question 2: No, it just seems to stream the signal in, but does not seem to send it back.
Are Monitor Send 1 and Monitor Send 2 mono or stereo? Are you able to link outputs? i.e. when you pull down fader 1 it’ll pull it down for the Main AND Monitor Send 1. Giving you the ability for 2 separate outputs, that could have different max volumes (by spinning the bottom right knob). This would be ideal for a DJ wanting music in a separate room.
Hey Tazer, the outputs are each mono but can be linked as a stereo pair. What you're describing on the sends is called a post-fader send, where the channel's send to the aux output tracks as a function of the channel's main L/R send. With the current firmware, mon 1 & 2 outpus are pre-fader while the FX are post fader. Only the Mon sends have physical outputs though, so we'll have to see if they add post fade sends as an option for the Monitor outputs in a future firmware. Thanks for the great question & sorry for the long winded answer.
I'm still waiting for someone to build a small mixer that functions as a Bluetooth headset. A device like that would make it easy for podcasters to host remote guests when a headphone-jack-less phone is the only option. As well, a mixer/USB interface/Bluetooth headset would be great for a guy like me who takes work calls and writes music at the same desk and wants to use the same mic(s) for everything. Right now the only device that does Bluetooth headset with professional IO is the JK Audio Daptor 3 which isn't cheap.
Would have loved it if they had made it controllable by Midi CC. That way we could have built our own control surfaces instead of being stuck to their BT app.
The flow 8 has two aux sends, which can be use to send two mono or on stereo mix to any type of stage monitors or in ear monitors. Aux returns specifically are a different thing. They were common in the analog era where you'd want to bring back an effect to the console without using a whole input channel, but remain as just Aux inputs on many bigger digital desks as utility inputs often used to plug in local sources at FOH, like an iPod for playback. In that sense there are no aux inputs or returns on this mixer, just the 8 inputs you see on the surface. Thanks for the great question.
I tried this unit and sent it back. I couldn't connect with a Pixel phone and an older Ipad. I sent the unit back and went back to using a Soundcraft board also realizing that the mic preamps were way better on the Soundcraft.
Absolutely, it would work fine for that type of setup where you need a few mics and easy volume control. It's certainly cheap enough to be a good backup.
Thanks for the question, you can't put the BT onto a physical fader unfortunately. It stays on the knob, though you can assign USB 1/2 or USB 3/4 to faders if you'd like to do that. The option they give you with BT is to route it to the Main mix or to the Monitor mix directly. Sorry for the slow response, thanks again for the message!
The biggest thing you’ll probably be interested in is that ch 1/2 preamps are different than channels 3/4 on the Flow- if you’re specifically concerned with preamps, it’s hard to find much under $100 per channel that will get you excited about the pres or converters.
@@GreyGoran Yes, the first two pre-amps are the Midas Designed (same as the UMC1820) while 3/4 are not & also do not feature phantom power. How many mic pres are you looking for? If you won't use all eight, there could be some other options in the 2 or 4 pre units that could work well.
@@DcSoundOp i need no less than 4 inputs...i tried the focusrite 4i4 3gen but it didnt work with my windows laptop especially when recording all 4 track incl 48v...i guess it had to do that usb powered units cannnot get enough power from laptop?!....thats an answer!...i also read many bad reviews about the stability of the focusrite drivers....so i look for another low budget options...my steinberg ur22 worked fine all these years but i guess i could find better converter quality in that price range...(?)..thats also an answer!..thans for the feedback!
The Patreon budget doesn’t stretch to hiring real sound design yet unfortunately, it’s all StoryBlocks for the moment. Sorry for the nausea, but Thanks for the message!
in the first versions you could go to the 4 band equalizer and choose the frequency you wanted to change, apparently that was removed can you tell me something about it?
On the 4-band EQ, just tap once on the band and the full controls should pop-up for you. At least it still does on iOS. What type of device and OS are you using? Thanks for watching!
Oh wait, if most of the advanced controls aren't available from the physical interface, then why didn't they (i mean behringer) made a "xr8" like mixer ? Moreover I learned that you cant set gain and eq parameters. I wouldnt buy this one but if they made an "xr8" then i'd definitely buy it.
Yeah, this one needs the app to get to most of the features. It's certainly a unique product category, which folks either seem to really appreciate or don't see a benefit compred to the XR series. I think for solo musicians and folks mixing from stage while playing, the faders are a nice comfort.
Funciona para hacer streaming con mi.ipad ? Por ejemplo si quiero conectar guitarra micrófonos y un synth y enviar el audio a mi ipad para hacer Facebook live
@DcSoundOps do you know of this mixer separates the channels individually or if it sums it up as one master. I'm a live stream DJ on Twitch. I'm currently use the behringer xenyx x2222usb. It's giving me great crystal clear audio. The problem is because it's a analog mixer for live sound when I plug it into the computer it gives me a summed master out. I would like to add some pluggins so I can shape my mic better but I need something like the scarlett that takes all of the inputs and separates them. Would this be a viable option, or do you have any other suggestions. Thanks long time sub.
This one gives you 10 channels into the computer over USB. The output from the computer to playback over USB or Bluetooth is only two channel L/R. For inputs to the computer though, you get each of the individual channels 1 - 8 along with the Stereo L/R on the last two channels. Did I understand your question or was it somewhere else you're asking about it summing? Thanks for the message!
@@DcSoundOp wow, that impressive... at €199 I expected it to be 2in2out... not 10in over usb... you can effectively run a multitrack session... great for all the dawless jammers out there. I might have to get one 🤔
@@DcSoundOp it was answered. I don't need a stereo sum over L/R. I need all of my inputs to be separate from one another. This was I can manipulate one input, but not have it effect the entire output.
Hello sir . I just found your video while I was looking for info on mixers on google. You seem very knowledgeable so I have a question that I hope you can answers. I have two different pairs of active speakers, one is the Kali in 8 and the other is the Edifier s3000pro. One have xlr balance inputs the other have RCA. Ok the question is. Can I use a mixer to connect both pairs at once so the same audio plays in all the speakers? For example TV audio or streaming devices or also a turn table. If so can you recommend a mixer for me that sounds well and don't break the bank? I thank you in advance and send my respect from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷😎✌️. Be safe.
Hi Teddy, you certainly could use a mixer to do this, but it sounds like you're looking for something more along the lines of a AV Receiver. You'll need something with a specific phono input for the turntable, and with a TV or other streaming device, you'll probably want to take the audio over HDMI to get the surround channels in digital without a bunch of extra headaches. What brands or home electronics are popular there in PR? If you can find a Sony or Yamaha, they both make very good units with bluetooth support and lots of other features. All the best to you in Puerto Rico, keep in touch 🤝
@@DcSoundOp i appreciate your advice and that you took the time to respond to my comment sir. The thing is that I already own two pair of active speakers, one is the Edifier s3000pr0 and the other is the Kali in 8 and i love them both so much that I wanted to pair them to play at the same time and the only way I know how is through a mixer. I thought that a mixer with bluetooth connection would give me the option to connect my smart tv via bluetooth and transmit the sound over to my active speakers. I know it all sounds like a mess but If I went with the traditional home theater i would have to just buy everything again, like receiver, new passive speakers and all of that would set me back a pretty penny. If you have more advice on the route I took plz share it with me sir. Thx again and again keep yourself and the family safe.👍 I'm a sub.of yours now 4 sure.
Does the mixer snapshot load even when you don't have your smartphone on? That is, can I tweak my settings using the Flow Mix app on android, then save it within the mixer, and load snapshots from the mixer when the phone isn't available?
Do you think this is Behringer’s response to the Rode Podcast mixer? It’s missing the pads for sound effect but seems like a quick podcast setup for just under the Rode’s price.
It certainly has a lot of features that seem directed toward podcasting. I haven't used the Rode myself, but the pads are certainly a unique feature for anyone who does that style of work. From what I understand this one will be considerably less expensive than the Rode too, which isn't really a surprise, but it is worth noting. Thanks for the message!
I reckon they had a load of spare chip sets left over from the x-air range and threw them in this lol It’s effectively an X-Air 8... really cool in my opinion. The best IOS compatible Audio Interface for features and price point 👍
Hi, always go to your site to learn more - Thank you!!! - i plug my compressor mic to line 1(via xlr, on my Yamaha MG10XU mixer - all good) - i plug my Acustic guitar to line 2 ( via reg gutar cable, i can hear clearly via headphones BUT when we go live on youtube via OBS the Acustic guitar sounds does not come through - you can hear it, but like if its not connected at all, super flat - im i doing something wrong? help.... keep up the great work!
In OBS can you see if channel 2 from your mixer is selected? It sounds like you are only getting the first channel & need to add another audio track in OBS and assign ch 2 there. Let me know how you get on.
That's a fair concern. Music Tribe has been doing well to make software & updates available and coming out pretty often lately, so we'll see if they keep that up in the coming years for sure. Thanks for the message!
What options are there for routing to the headphones? Specifically, can you send just the USB input to the phones, and not the main outputs, or other channels, eg mic1?
That's unfortunately a no at the moment. Not sure what plans they have for future updates, or how much they could add with the current DSP etc. Cool idea though!
@@DcSoundOp I sincerely hope they willa add at least noise gate, I'll closesly watch updates. Because for this price 199euro it's a better idea for now to buy second hand x-air than this for more demandig users. But for podcaster/streamer it's a realy nice piece of hardware, lack of Gate is a hard no no for me. Excited to watch what will develop from this :D
Which Midas PreAmp? It’s certainly not what you get in the XL48 if that’s what you’re looking for. They are Behringer preamps & do a good job for the price in my opinion.
@@jaywong8023 I've always found it troubling when brands use trade names in spec sheets. If I'm being asked to believe they're selling me the exact same quallity for less in a different box, I'd think there would be data sheets & specs being plastered everywhere to prove the value. If the design is actually the same on paper, but uses different (less expensive) components across the board, is it the same mic product in the end? Lots to think about & even more that could be helped by less opaque marketing all around.
at the moment there is just the iOS and Android Apps for control. Although the M1 mac can launch the app, I haven't been able to connect with it to the FLOW, but maybe in the future.
Given that the faders control a number of things, what happens when you switch between (for example) gain and level. Does the level jump to the fader location? Or do you have to move the fader past the location that relates to the current level before it starts working? Or? Thanks
No, the level does not jump when you change layers, you get a little yellow light on any channels that are not in the correct position & then you just line them up to the display read-out and it picks up control from there. Thanks for the great question.
I'm sure it'll have a market, but only 2 stereo / 2 mono input config makes it a harder sell for musicians. Something like the X Air XR12 is around the same price and has much more going on.
The Flow 8 has 4 mic inputs, two of which are also combo jacks... and four more 1/4” inputs on channels 5/6 & 7/8, as well as a stereo Bluetooth or USB channel to playback tracks etc.
Hey Ryan, nothing like this from Mackie yet. They have the usual selection of iOS & android controlled portable mixers, but nothing with the faders / bluetooth / interface combination setup like this yet. Thanks for the question!
I bought this product recently and configured it with 2 microphones - 1 with XLR and another with combo. I do not hear and output on main or monitor 1 & 2. What am I missing? The green leds light up when I speak into the mic. I have seen at least 10 videos but no one seems to describe how to connect this mixer to an audio amplifier. Neither does the documentation provided. Help please?
Hey, thanks for the question. So connecting to an amplifier is as simple as connecting the main L/R or Monitor Outputs to the inputs of your amplifier or powered speaker as needed. Can you give more details on where you are stuck exactly? Which green LEDs are you seeing, if you are only looking at the input level when setting the input gain, you will still need to turn the channels up in the mix you are working on & then make sure that mix's output level is turned up too. Are you using the app or trying to do everything on the mixer?
You'd prefer a noise gate on the outputs instead of a limiter? Is that right? We don't usually gate outputs coming from a console... but I'd be interested to learn what you need them for. For the streaming market this was aimed at, Limiters at the outputs are what most folks need. Looking forward to talking more Doman. Thanks for the message.
Again, gates are not something that gets used at a console's output though. For gating a microphone as you are describing, you would do that at the microphone's channel insert, not at the output of the console. Gates also work equally as well with dynamic or condenser mics, no matter if they are directional or not. There are also wildly sensitive dynamic mics available on the market, as well as condensers that are designed to not be so sensitive - the two are not necessarily tied together as a rule, though it may seem that way at first.
Limiter basically cuts sound above treshold. Gate closes mic when sound level is BELOW treshold (background) and opens when it reaches it (user voice). Which in practice means that it cuts out all noises when you dont speak (they are not so noticeable when you speak). Offcourse this works the best with directional dynamic mics which already greatly reduce the volume of sounds which are not placed directly before the mic. I use software gate and it works really nice with nonstatic noises like dog barking outside, my kids playing and watching cartoons in next room, my neighbour students having good sex behind the wall... But i need solution which can be set outside from the host - device which has gate either set by a knob or remotely from mobile device. Rodecaster pro has gate which can be set though lcd screen. But i dont like its price/capabilities ratio. I thought that presonus io24 interface would be such device (connecting to laptop and managing remotely from android) but remote connection rely on installed software on the host. Ive seen many devices and made big topics on reddit. Finally i ordered behringer xr12 + uac202. Both cost less than rodecaster but xr capabilities are far greater than rodecasters. EDIT: sorry i doubled the post
@@DcSoundOp Well it doesnt matter for me, i just suggested that it would be great to have such knob at all. Dbx 286s gained a lot of fans. Such a shame that there is no such device in more compact form like this flow 8 and in similar price range.
It claims there are two Midas designed pres but I’m sceptical considering ‘designed’ is a very flexible word, from what I’ve heard it just means more expensive components and a -15dB change in the noise floor, this is for the x32 /m32 though so probably different in this case
no reason to cross post this to all of the FLOW 8 videos on the channel. Yes, presets are possible & it does return to the last known state at power-up. You can download the app to try in demo mode for how the preset library works.
They only just announced the mixer this morning. I doubt the APP will be out of Beta and into the app store before the units start to ship, but I could be wrong. Not sure how much control you get as a developer either beyond submitting and waiting for the APP store to decide it's approved and list it publicly. Keep any eye out though, I'm sure they will announce it somewhere when it is released. Thanks for watching.
If you click the blue Full Range button in the top right, the freq controls will extend from the preset range to full 20-20kHz, giving you more control & options if you need it.
I feel like it's definitely aimed at the consumer/prosumer streaming market mid-COVID just as much as small acts. It's quite a good concept, even I (pro audio guy) am thinking of checking one out when they start to ship, this board might be interesting for run&gun or battery powered gigs. I'm always looking for small, but not remote-only controlled digital boards for 1-2 mics top. Bringing out an SQ5 for 2 mics just to have nice EQ and compression sometimed just too much. However, the one-knob dynamics and fixed EQ is somewhat concerning to me. I guess it all depends on price.
I agree the one-knob stuff is a bummer, but maybe that will improve with an update. They have covered a lot of ground in updates already. They mentioned it was going to be around 200 euro in an instagram post today... which is honestly less than I expected by a little bit. Thanks for the message!
@@DcSoundOp well 200 EUR is basically learning money if this thing doesn't work out. You're saying there were (or will be) meaningful feature updates as well?
That's the Apple Type-A Camera Adapter - www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1241761-REG/apple_mk0w2am_a_lightning_to_usb_3_0.html/BI/21008/KBID/17544/kw/APMK0W2AMA/DFF/d10-v2-t1-xAPMK0W2AMA
The FirePod was a great interface when it came out - I remember selling those at the shop I worked at when Firewire was a huge new thing! Thanks for the message!
if around $200, very cool. This is for #1 reason: Bluetooth control. considering the hardware inputs... amazing. I'd think eventually do a 'Bluetooth only' box. save $ on sliders, buttons, etc. Eventually, all stuff will have Bluetooth control... the future looks affordably Bright!
A load of technical specs and not a word about the sound. My only brush with Behringer was renting a mixer for live performance: the preamps were so thin-sounding and screechy it was almost unusable, but this was all we had. Never again! Honestly, if this is your business, I would rather pay the money for pro-level equipment than get caught out. I don't trust Behringer gear. My lowest threshold is now Mackie, Allen & Heath a main go-to, and QSC preferred. Maybe things have changed in 10 years?
Definitely talked about sound, included a swept sine measurement of the mic pre & recorded the entire episode using the mixer. You might check out my friends at City Tech up in NYC who published an ABX blind test between a behringer x32 console & a Yamaha CL5 - not a single person could tell the difference repeatedly in a controlled test. controlgeek.net/blog/2019/5/3/comparing-yamaha-cl5-and-behringer-x32-mic-preamps-using-double-blind-abx-testing
The big question is when will it be available. Them and Midas always do this they pre release a product and I won’t be out for 6 moths too a year after. It’s like they just tease people
I just looked this morning & Thomann has it listed now at 2 - 3 weeks until they have them & Sweetwater has 'We expect these to arrive in a few months' on their pre-order page. That could just be their standard language for pre-orders that don't have an exact drop date. It has changed a number of times since I've been watching it, not sure if folks who have pre-ordered already got more firm delivery estimates or not.
Don’t miss the Second Look follow up video @ ua-cam.com/video/5Se-BLYT2yQ/v-deo.html
This is perfect for acoustic acts who want the ability to stream live. I can see someone pairing this with one of those battery powered speakers like the Maui 5 go and having a really cool all battery powered rig.
Very smart choice in setup, sliders are a must to me. But I don't see myself going through a lot of menus. The support pillars are not quite enough to stabilize your smartphone or tablet. Cool extra is when using a tablet all cables and plugs are hidden!
I recently already made my choice for an old school 8 channel mixer, with no audio interface.
Great review. I had a xAir 16; I sold it because it was unreliable. The built-in ether-net system was unstable. Also, the system occasionally froze during live performances. So, I am skeptical about Behringer wireless devices. But this FLOW 8 looks great. At least the volume can be controlled physically. Questions: (1) Does the FLOW 8 record the scenes internally, or is that info recorded in the tablet memory? (I ask because if the tablet connection died, you could switch to a new scene that you knew worked, if the info resided in the FLOW 8.) (2) How reliable is the built-in ether-net? (3) Does the FLOW 8 include a LAN jack for a hard-wired connection to the control device? Thanks for an excellent video clip.
I like having one mixer with everything you need, eq, compressor, effects and more. Like the high pass filter for shaping vocals. The compressor can work for limiting. Effects work great. I bring this mixer in a rack and everything to get it working.
Interesting new option for sure! Any word on pricing? Probably great for a singer/musician youtuber/live streamer. I chose the Rodecaster Pro myself because I wanted individual channel mute buttons right at the front for quick access plus cables going out the back of the unit instead of the top makes it easier to fit on a crowded desk with a computer, etc (I fit mine under my monitor between my keyboard and monitor, cables out the back make it work here).
Ha, ha, just saw your follow-up video after I posted this comment. Perhaps you address some of this in the next video...
Finally something this is more mobile than my xr12!!!!.........love it but, i really need this!👍🏽
I would actually very much prefer the huuuge routing and fx possibilities of the X Air mixers, and would even say they are barely less portable thanks to the builtin PSU and not having any faders on the panel. Plus you get Wifi + Ethernet + MIDI + all balanced inputs and so on.
Looks like a super cool "indie band" or "podcast" mixer.
This looks like an incredible piece of hardware. Behringer is doing amazing things lately.
Faders aren’t motorised. Crazy.
I don't think you'd get 5 motorized faders changing scenes together from 5V 2A while keeping everything else running in this unit. At least their is no proprietary power brick to carry around.
Look like Sweetwater has them priced at $229US, not bad may have to think about getting one!
I was thinking it'd be ~$200. very cool.
The big question is when will it be available. The wing they showed and didn’t release till like six months later
That's a funky little thing. It's mind boggling what's out there these days!
Why? It's old tech. Your phone is decades ahead in terms of what it can do, compared to the most advanced music tech.
@@erwickdsouza Yeah well, you might take it for granted but I come from a time of heavy, bulky analog mixers and racks of fx. Modern musicians dont know how lucky they are!
@@officialWWM I use a bunch of analog gear myself. Doesn't mean I hold them in holy regard. When digital was embraced our industry held on to "Analog sound" for way too long. It's unnecessary and it's holding us back.
Looks like an interesting desk for small events or installs. Shame there aren’t any motorised faders though, gives me flashbacks to using my old StudioLive desk with an iPad and having to adjust all the levels when I got back to FOH.
Yeah the Studio Live was deceptive in its promises. With “recall” it just showed with the level meters where you had left the fader, it didn’t recall them, and gain was definitely not recallable. Cant believe this unit can’t save and recall both.
i was thinking the same. its a shame that the faders are not motorised
This would be great for a small venue - the sound tech could tweak remotely, and the musos can use it onstage to mix themselves. Nice niche solution for some things
Remote control is bluetooth, not WiFi, like the XRs. I wouldn't use it in a venue bigger than a living room. It would be fine to self-mix on stage though.
Great video. interesting device. I'm interested in what they're going to charge. Behringer has gone from laughing stock to serious contender in recent years due to the success of their digital stuff - I admit I still have some bias against them after buying one of their small mixers 5 years ago. It was terribly noisy. But people seem to like their digital mixers these days and they're certainly killing it in terms of price. I wonder what this one will go for. If it's inexpensive enough, it could sell tons and tons.
199 EUR MSRP (from instagram)
@@HyperSuperBothi Wow - good detective work! I couldn't find it. That sounds to me like a very good price point.
I had their 2222 mixer and the abysmal sound over USB was the only downside, a terrific mixer for the money, nothing compared to their older eurostuff from the 90s. they've come a long way baby^^
@@budgetguitarist Thomann wants 229 Euros in Germany (we have 18% VAT, USA will be a little cheaper)
segun thoman 238€
Behringer have made so much money in the past with their cheap shabby products , now they making expensive products half the price than any brands, they have done really well last few years
I need one! 🤩 It's only a matter of time before they make one with motorized faders.
Thank you so much for sharing. This looks like a mixer that I can definitely use.
You're welcome Bee, thanks for the message!
I definitely need this for sure, after buying the 1202 thinking I could record all 4 inputs separately.
Being able to use a monitor send as a external stereo/mono effects aux is pretty cool. Would be better if Behringer added a pre/post fader option on the monitor mixer page to enhance this workflow.
it would be nice to have and well worth 50 bucks more. were they cutting costs on the wrong end? hmmmm...
I would be surprised if that was a place they would cut costs... more likely something that may be possible or could show up in a future firmware update. I'll mention it to them & if users do too after they start shipping, that's the kind of thing they tend to try to address if it's possible through an update. Thanks for the great comments though.
Thank you for the detailed review! I was thinking about this, but now when the price is same as for XR12, I was wondering if FLOW 8 also shares same effects and all dsp with xr32, because they are big deal and very usable. So far I could not figure it out, it seems like FLOW software is different and probably simpler, stripped down version, also probably does not have so much computing power through usb to handle so much.
Soo, I never got a ping for this video, but I will probably be getting one of these for my bands rehersals. No need to wheel around a wing when it's not necessary.
Yeah, if you can fit a rehearsal into 8 channels, the Wing would definitely be a lot to carry around! Thanks for checking out the video, let us know if you pick one up and what you think of it!
This could be super useful for lots of my smaller gigs! My only issue with it is why bluetooth instead of wifi!? Its like they're saying we have the freedom to move around and mix, but never more than a few steps away!
It will be interesting to see how it all works in a room full of other bluetooth devices. Might be a while before we can test that though. Thanks Nicholae!
I really hope they release a 12 or 16 Channel one
The Zoom LiveTrak team has been looking for you! They even make a 20 channel version 😆 amzn.to/3nsFNlN
@@DcSoundOp good to know thank you
Honestly, the X-Air range is excellent, and has even more features than this guy does. Pricing is super fair, since none of the boxes have controls on them.
Interesting how Thomann sell the XR18 for $433 but North American shops like Sweetwater are closer to $600 - might be part of the reason folks are excited about a cheaper option. $265 at thomann vs $389 Sweetwater on the XR12 at the moment.
I like it and I think it would give me good results in my acoustic performances.
But I would like to know if I want to record the performance in cubase for example, would each channel go to a different track of the cubase.
For example I put the guitar channel 1, voice channel 2 and drum machine channel 3, would each channel go to a different track of the cubase? or on the contrary, the whole mix would go to a single track of the cubase.
Cheers
Hey Carlos, yes in Cubase you’d be able to select the tracks individually or you can select the L/R mix. You get the eight individual channels + stereo L/R over USB into the computer. Thanks for the message!
Quick question: How's the output noise floor? I sometimes do live music for yoga and meditation and there's nothing worse than the dreaded hiss from the PA/mixer. I just bought an analog behringer mixer but it's so noisy and will be returning it! Thanks :-)
That's a great question - what are you connecting the mixer to next in the system? Do you have powered speakers hooked straight up, or are you going through other gear or a stand-alone amp? Let me know what your setup is currently.
I prefer my Zoom R24s (1 at home and 1at my rehearsal room). They do EVERYTHING and even run on batteries, have a sequencer-looper and are stand-alone recorders.
I'll have to get some more of Zoom's stuff in for a video soon, their booth is always a ton of fun at the trade shows & they certainly have some unique gear. Thanks for the message!
Hi, great video, thanks!
2 questions for podcasting, to set up mix-minus for remote guests:
1. can you configure which channels to send to Monitors 1 & 2?
2. can you send audio BACK via bluetooth and select what to send back?
is it maybe hidden under the „mixer snapshots“?
Thanks!
Don‘t worry about it, I‘ve found out :)
Question 1: yes, easily, just click in the app at the mixer page on „MON 1“ or „MON 2“ and mute wichever channel you don‘t want to include. Question 2: No, it just seems to stream the signal in, but does not seem to send it back.
Are Monitor Send 1 and Monitor Send 2 mono or stereo?
Are you able to link outputs? i.e. when you pull down fader 1 it’ll pull it down for the Main AND Monitor Send 1. Giving you the ability for 2 separate outputs, that could have different max volumes (by spinning the bottom right knob).
This would be ideal for a DJ wanting music in a separate room.
Hey Tazer, the outputs are each mono but can be linked as a stereo pair. What you're describing on the sends is called a post-fader send, where the channel's send to the aux output tracks as a function of the channel's main L/R send. With the current firmware, mon 1 & 2 outpus are pre-fader while the FX are post fader. Only the Mon sends have physical outputs though, so we'll have to see if they add post fade sends as an option for the Monitor outputs in a future firmware. Thanks for the great question & sorry for the long winded answer.
I'm still waiting for someone to build a small mixer that functions as a Bluetooth headset. A device like that would make it easy for podcasters to host remote guests when a headphone-jack-less phone is the only option. As well, a mixer/USB interface/Bluetooth headset would be great for a guy like me who takes work calls and writes music at the same desk and wants to use the same mic(s) for everything. Right now the only device that does Bluetooth headset with professional IO is the JK Audio Daptor 3 which isn't cheap.
Would have loved it if they had made it controllable by Midi CC. That way we could have built our own control surfaces instead of being stuck to their BT app.
this looks like a good mixer for podcast!
I think you're right, especially if you have an extra device to use as the recorder already!
Modified lap top battery
I've been trying to figure out what you meant here, but I'm lost. To be clear, the Flow 8 does not have any type of internal battery.
Thanks for the video. Is th Flow 8 able to manage aux returns (stage returns) ?
The flow 8 has two aux sends, which can be use to send two mono or on stereo mix to any type of stage monitors or in ear monitors.
Aux returns specifically are a different thing. They were common in the analog era where you'd want to bring back an effect to the console without using a whole input channel, but remain as just Aux inputs on many bigger digital desks as utility inputs often used to plug in local sources at FOH, like an iPod for playback. In that sense there are no aux inputs or returns on this mixer, just the 8 inputs you see on the surface.
Thanks for the great question.
I tried this unit and sent it back. I couldn't connect with a Pixel phone and an older Ipad. I sent the unit back and went back to using a Soundcraft board also realizing that the mic preamps were way better on the Soundcraft.
The question is, do the mic preamps support enough gain to use a Shure SM7b dynamic microphone without a cloudlift or similar inline phantom amp?
Oh dang that's an excellent question, I'm about to get a shure sm7b and I still need a mixer sooo that'd be too perfect haha fingers crossed
Nice video! Dang this is really neat, props to Behringer!
Thanks David!
I wonder if a USB-C update is in the works now that all iOS devices are USB C? One can hope!
Nice job man you sold me
How do you do your recording? I have been having problem recording the mix using the audio-USB to IOS or laptop. Recordings are without the effect.
excellent review as usual
I appreciate that
Hey question for ya, is that a regular ipad in the video or an ipad mini?? Thanks!
That’s an iPad mini 4, not one of the new ones. The phone in the thumbnail is an iPhone 8 if that helps anyone.
I'm a mobile DJ who does weddings and occasionally I host karaoke events. Do you think this would be good for that purpose?
Absolutely, it would work fine for that type of setup where you need a few mics and easy volume control. It's certainly cheap enough to be a good backup.
Snapshots - any settings NOT saved? Any app for ir "room acoustics" analysis?
Is there a way to get the bleutooth sound on a fader ?
Thanks for the question, you can't put the BT onto a physical fader unfortunately. It stays on the knob, though you can assign USB 1/2 or USB 3/4 to faders if you'd like to do that. The option they give you with BT is to route it to the Main mix or to the Monitor mix directly. Sorry for the slow response, thanks again for the message!
@@DcSoundOp Hi ok, would have been a nice option if I could control the BT with a fader
great video!..what about its convertors and the recording quality...i m gonna buy one just for multiple chanell recordings
The biggest thing you’ll probably be interested in is that ch 1/2 preamps are different than channels 3/4 on the Flow- if you’re specifically concerned with preamps, it’s hard to find much under $100 per channel that will get you excited about the pres or converters.
@@DcSoundOp 1/2 are midas preamps and 3/4 other?..you thing its a better idea a behringer umc1820 for my purpose?
@@GreyGoran Yes, the first two pre-amps are the Midas Designed (same as the UMC1820) while 3/4 are not & also do not feature phantom power. How many mic pres are you looking for? If you won't use all eight, there could be some other options in the 2 or 4 pre units that could work well.
@@DcSoundOp i need no less than 4 inputs...i tried the focusrite 4i4 3gen but it didnt work with my windows laptop especially when recording all 4 track incl 48v...i guess it had to do that usb powered units cannnot get enough power from laptop?!....thats an answer!...i also read many bad reviews about the stability of the focusrite drivers....so i look for another low budget options...my steinberg ur22 worked fine all these years but i guess i could find better converter quality in that price range...(?)..thats also an answer!..thans for the feedback!
i mean question!..
This looks pretty cool and would suit my needs just fine. Thanks for the video. I did find the elevator music mildly nauseating, though. Just FYI.
The Patreon budget doesn’t stretch to hiring real sound design yet unfortunately, it’s all StoryBlocks for the moment. Sorry for the nausea, but Thanks for the message!
Yeah I can definitely use this.
good compliment to video switcher like ATEM mini just lack of good input on ATEM
Absolutely, it would be very easy to use this as your USB Audio input to OBS while using the ATEM Mini to switch cameras & graphics.
in the first versions you could go to the 4 band equalizer and choose the frequency you wanted to change, apparently that was removed
can you tell me something about it?
On the 4-band EQ, just tap once on the band and the full controls should pop-up for you. At least it still does on iOS. What type of device and OS are you using? Thanks for watching!
Oh wait, if most of the advanced controls aren't available from the physical interface, then why didn't they (i mean behringer) made a "xr8" like mixer ? Moreover I learned that you cant set gain and eq parameters.
I wouldnt buy this one but if they made an "xr8" then i'd definitely buy it.
Yeah, this one needs the app to get to most of the features. It's certainly a unique product category, which folks either seem to really appreciate or don't see a benefit compred to the XR series. I think for solo musicians and folks mixing from stage while playing, the faders are a nice comfort.
Great walkthrough!
Thanks, I really appreciate the feedback!
Funciona para hacer streaming con mi.ipad ? Por ejemplo si quiero conectar guitarra micrófonos y un synth y enviar el audio a mi ipad para hacer Facebook live
@DcSoundOps do you know of this mixer separates the channels individually or if it sums it up as one master. I'm a live stream DJ on Twitch. I'm currently use the behringer xenyx x2222usb. It's giving me great crystal clear audio. The problem is because it's a analog mixer for live sound when I plug it into the computer it gives me a summed master out. I would like to add some pluggins so I can shape my mic better but I need something like the scarlett that takes all of the inputs and separates them. Would this be a viable option, or do you have any other suggestions. Thanks long time sub.
Stereo Sum by the looks of it... 👍
@@djBlindFaith thanks
This one gives you 10 channels into the computer over USB. The output from the computer to playback over USB or Bluetooth is only two channel L/R. For inputs to the computer though, you get each of the individual channels 1 - 8 along with the Stereo L/R on the last two channels. Did I understand your question or was it somewhere else you're asking about it summing? Thanks for the message!
@@DcSoundOp wow, that impressive... at €199 I expected it to be 2in2out... not 10in over usb... you can effectively run a multitrack session... great for all the dawless jammers out there.
I might have to get one 🤔
@@DcSoundOp it was answered. I don't need a stereo sum over L/R. I need all of my inputs to be separate from one another. This was I can manipulate one input, but not have it effect the entire output.
Hello sir .
I just found your video while I was looking for info on mixers on google. You seem very knowledgeable so I have a question that I hope you can answers. I have two different pairs of active speakers, one is the Kali in 8 and the other is the Edifier s3000pro. One have xlr balance inputs the other have RCA. Ok the question is. Can I use a mixer to connect both pairs at once so the same audio plays in all the speakers? For example TV audio or streaming devices or also a turn table. If so can you recommend a mixer for me that sounds well and don't break the bank? I thank you in advance and send my respect from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷😎✌️. Be safe.
Hi Teddy, you certainly could use a mixer to do this, but it sounds like you're looking for something more along the lines of a AV Receiver. You'll need something with a specific phono input for the turntable, and with a TV or other streaming device, you'll probably want to take the audio over HDMI to get the surround channels in digital without a bunch of extra headaches. What brands or home electronics are popular there in PR?
If you can find a Sony or Yamaha, they both make very good units with bluetooth support and lots of other features.
All the best to you in Puerto Rico, keep in touch 🤝
@@DcSoundOp i appreciate your advice and that you took the time to respond to my comment sir. The thing is that I already own two pair of active speakers, one is the Edifier s3000pr0 and the other is the Kali in 8 and i love them both so much that I wanted to pair them to play at the same time and the only way I know how is through a mixer. I thought that a mixer with bluetooth connection would give me the option to connect my smart tv via bluetooth and transmit the sound over to my active speakers. I know it all sounds like a mess but If I went with the traditional home theater i would have to just buy everything again, like receiver, new passive speakers and all of that would set me back a pretty penny. If you have more advice on the route I took plz share it with me sir. Thx again and again keep yourself and the family safe.👍 I'm a sub.of yours now 4 sure.
Does the mixer has a conventional delay on the outputs ? Essential feature for streaming live acts
This one does not have delay on the inputs or outputs. Great question, thanks!
Does the mixer snapshot load even when you don't have your smartphone on?
That is, can I tweak my settings using the Flow Mix app on android, then save it within the mixer, and load snapshots from the mixer when the phone isn't available?
Yes, the snapshots are saved in the hardware and can be recalled from the little screen without a phone connected. Thanks for the question.
Do you think this is Behringer’s response to the Rode Podcast mixer? It’s missing the pads for sound effect but seems like a quick podcast setup for just under the Rode’s price.
It certainly has a lot of features that seem directed toward podcasting. I haven't used the Rode myself, but the pads are certainly a unique feature for anyone who does that style of work. From what I understand this one will be considerably less expensive than the Rode too, which isn't really a surprise, but it is worth noting. Thanks for the message!
I reckon they had a load of spare chip sets left over from the x-air range and threw them in this lol
It’s effectively an X-Air 8... really cool in my opinion. The best IOS compatible Audio Interface for features and price point 👍
@@djBlindFaith The user interface is quite different, though. So a bit of effort has indeed been put into it, to make it an update from the XR line.
Hi, always go to your site to learn more - Thank you!!! - i plug my compressor mic to line 1(via xlr, on my Yamaha MG10XU mixer - all good) - i plug my Acustic guitar to line 2 ( via reg gutar cable, i can hear clearly via headphones BUT when we go live on youtube via OBS the Acustic guitar sounds does not come through - you can hear it, but like if its not connected at all, super flat - im i doing something wrong? help.... keep up the great work!
In OBS can you see if channel 2 from your mixer is selected? It sounds like you are only getting the first channel & need to add another audio track in OBS and assign ch 2 there. Let me know how you get on.
Looks rad!
good day, are the faders motorized?
They are not motorized on this mixer. Thanks for the question & for watching!
I wish this had an AES EBU or SPDIF output!
What’s the approximate in-line-of-sight Bluetooth range?
Can I use this as a USB DAC for music and still be able to connect mics and instruments?
Absolutely!
Is there a button to turn it off? Or just unplug power cable?
Press and hold the MENU button 😉
Great review!!
Thanks for the message Jonathon! Hope you stay in touch.
Great review, the app only features will make the mixer useless in a couple years when the app will not compatible with new os.
That's a fair concern. Music Tribe has been doing well to make software & updates available and coming out pretty often lately, so we'll see if they keep that up in the coming years for sure. Thanks for the message!
Looked good until there was a lack of pan on the panel.
What options are there for routing to the headphones? Specifically, can you send just the USB input to the phones, and not the main outputs, or other channels, eg mic1?
Does it have something like "pro" mode? EQ with adjustable frequencies, and the most important thing - Gate!
That's unfortunately a no at the moment. Not sure what plans they have for future updates, or how much they could add with the current DSP etc. Cool idea though!
@@DcSoundOp I sincerely hope they willa add at least noise gate, I'll closesly watch updates. Because for this price 199euro it's a better idea for now to buy second hand x-air than this for more demandig users. But for podcaster/streamer it's a realy nice piece of hardware, lack of Gate is a hard no no for me. Excited to watch what will develop from this :D
Are FX available in monitor 1 and 2?
Hello does it use the midas pro mic preamp?? If so im planning to buy it suits my needs
Which Midas PreAmp? It’s certainly not what you get in the XL48 if that’s what you’re looking for. They are Behringer preamps & do a good job for the price in my opinion.
@@DcSoundOp bcz I've read on the specs from Sweetwater chanel 1 and 2 uses the midas preamp
@@jaywong8023 I've always found it troubling when brands use trade names in spec sheets. If I'm being asked to believe they're selling me the exact same quallity for less in a different box, I'd think there would be data sheets & specs being plastered everywhere to prove the value. If the design is actually the same on paper, but uses different (less expensive) components across the board, is it the same mic product in the end? Lots to think about & even more that could be helped by less opaque marketing all around.
Am curious if there is a PC app that could control this mixer?
at the moment there is just the iOS and Android Apps for control. Although the M1 mac can launch the app, I haven't been able to connect with it to the FLOW, but maybe in the future.
Given that the faders control a number of things, what happens when you switch between (for example) gain and level. Does the level jump to the fader location? Or do you have to move the fader past the location that relates to the current level before it starts working? Or?
Thanks
No, the level does not jump when you change layers, you get a little yellow light on any channels that are not in the correct position & then you just line them up to the display read-out and it picks up control from there. Thanks for the great question.
I'm sure it'll have a market, but only 2 stereo / 2 mono input config makes it a harder sell for musicians.
Something like the X Air XR12 is around the same price and has much more going on.
The Flow 8 has 4 mic inputs, two of which are also combo jacks... and four more 1/4” inputs on channels 5/6 & 7/8, as well as a stereo Bluetooth or USB channel to playback tracks etc.
Nice. Does Mackie make something like this?
Hey Ryan, nothing like this from Mackie yet. They have the usual selection of iOS & android controlled portable mixers, but nothing with the faders / bluetooth / interface combination setup like this yet. Thanks for the question!
@@DcSoundOp OK, thank you.
I bought this product recently and configured it with 2 microphones - 1 with XLR and another with combo. I do not hear and output on main or monitor 1 & 2. What am I missing? The green leds light up when I speak into the mic. I have seen at least 10 videos but no one seems to describe how to connect this mixer to an audio amplifier. Neither does the documentation provided. Help please?
Hey, thanks for the question. So connecting to an amplifier is as simple as connecting the main L/R or Monitor Outputs to the inputs of your amplifier or powered speaker as needed. Can you give more details on where you are stuck exactly? Which green LEDs are you seeing, if you are only looking at the input level when setting the input gain, you will still need to turn the channels up in the mix you are working on & then make sure that mix's output level is turned up too. Are you using the app or trying to do everything on the mixer?
If they would replace limiter with noise gate treshold i would buy this instantly.
You'd prefer a noise gate on the outputs instead of a limiter? Is that right? We don't usually gate outputs coming from a console... but I'd be interested to learn what you need them for. For the streaming market this was aimed at, Limiters at the outputs are what most folks need. Looking forward to talking more Doman. Thanks for the message.
Again, gates are not something that gets used at a console's output though. For gating a microphone as you are describing, you would do that at the microphone's channel insert, not at the output of the console. Gates also work equally as well with dynamic or condenser mics, no matter if they are directional or not. There are also wildly sensitive dynamic mics available on the market, as well as condensers that are designed to not be so sensitive - the two are not necessarily tied together as a rule, though it may seem that way at first.
Limiter basically cuts sound above treshold. Gate closes mic when sound level is BELOW treshold (background) and opens when it reaches it (user voice). Which in practice means that it cuts out all noises when you dont speak (they are not so noticeable when you speak). Offcourse this works the best with directional dynamic mics which already greatly reduce the volume of sounds which are not placed directly before the mic. I use software gate and it works really nice with nonstatic noises like dog barking outside, my kids playing and watching cartoons in next room, my neighbour students having good sex behind the wall... But i need solution which can be set outside from the host - device which has gate either set by a knob or remotely from mobile device. Rodecaster pro has gate which can be set though lcd screen. But i dont like its price/capabilities ratio. I thought that presonus io24 interface would be such device (connecting to laptop and managing remotely from android) but remote connection rely on installed software on the host. Ive seen many devices and made big topics on reddit. Finally i ordered behringer xr12 + uac202. Both cost less than rodecaster but xr capabilities are far greater than rodecasters. EDIT: sorry i doubled the post
@@DcSoundOp Well it doesnt matter for me, i just suggested that it would be great to have such knob at all. Dbx 286s gained a lot of fans. Such a shame that there is no such device in more compact form like this flow 8 and in similar price range.
SInce Berhinger took over Midas, this is really interesting!
@@whiteclash Explain yourself
It claims there are two Midas designed pres but I’m sceptical considering ‘designed’ is a very flexible word, from what I’ve heard it just means more expensive components and a -15dB change in the noise floor, this is for the x32 /m32 though so probably different in this case
Kindly Sir! What microphone do you use?
I used an Audio Technical AT 935/ML for this one. Thanks!
Why u not show how the reverb effect sound.
didn't get around to it yet.
Behringer FLOW 8 costs 244 euros and Rodecaster Pro 533 euros. Does Behringer support mix minus and dynamic expander?
If they had included mix minus auto routing & an expander, it definitely would have been mentioned in the video 😂
Obviously you can create a mix minus yourself.
is it possible to create a preset? and if you off and one it will be on the last sceen ?
no reason to cross post this to all of the FLOW 8 videos on the channel. Yes, presets are possible & it does return to the last known state at power-up. You can download the app to try in demo mode for how the preset library works.
Wow! That not bad
Where can I find the app on the App Store?I’ve looked all over trying to find the flow app
They only just announced the mixer this morning. I doubt the APP will be out of Beta and into the app store before the units start to ship, but I could be wrong. Not sure how much control you get as a developer either beyond submitting and waiting for the APP store to decide it's approved and list it publicly. Keep any eye out though, I'm sure they will announce it somewhere when it is released. Thanks for watching.
I have a question: in the page of the EQ, at the top right, there is a blu button named FULL. What is it for?
Many thanks who can answer me!!!
If you click the blue Full Range button in the top right, the freq controls will extend from the preset range to full 20-20kHz, giving you more control & options if you need it.
@@DcSoundOp THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
🤙🤙🤙
How much is the Recording sample rate?
48kHz / 24-bit - thanks for the great question!
I feel like it's definitely aimed at the consumer/prosumer streaming market mid-COVID just as much as small acts.
It's quite a good concept, even I (pro audio guy) am thinking of checking one out when they start to ship, this board might be interesting for run&gun or battery powered gigs.
I'm always looking for small, but not remote-only controlled digital boards for 1-2 mics top. Bringing out an SQ5 for 2 mics just to have nice EQ and compression sometimed just too much.
However, the one-knob dynamics and fixed EQ is somewhat concerning to me.
I guess it all depends on price.
I agree the one-knob stuff is a bummer, but maybe that will improve with an update. They have covered a lot of ground in updates already. They mentioned it was going to be around 200 euro in an instagram post today... which is honestly less than I expected by a little bit. Thanks for the message!
@@DcSoundOp well 200 EUR is basically learning money if this thing doesn't work out.
You're saying there were (or will be) meaningful feature updates as well?
@@DcSoundOp Sweetwater has it listed as $298.99 US, preorder right now.
Seen it for £214 at dv247
G4M £179
Very cute!
You are so kind
What connector are you using from the mixer into the iPad?
That's the Apple Type-A Camera Adapter - www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1241761-REG/apple_mk0w2am_a_lightning_to_usb_3_0.html/BI/21008/KBID/17544/kw/APMK0W2AMA/DFF/d10-v2-t1-xAPMK0W2AMA
Behringer is on track these days for sure
Is there a loopback function on this device?
Not currently.
Any idea on which iOS DAWs This mixer is compatible with?
It works just like any other interface would with your DAW of choice!
Thanks for this review. I’ve become interested in the FLOW since my PreSonus FP10 finally died.
The FirePod was a great interface when it came out - I remember selling those at the shop I worked at when Firewire was a huge new thing! Thanks for the message!
if around $200, very cool. This is for #1 reason: Bluetooth control. considering the hardware inputs... amazing. I'd think eventually do a 'Bluetooth only' box. save $ on sliders, buttons, etc. Eventually, all stuff will have Bluetooth control... the future looks affordably Bright!
Does it comes with a native ASIO driver??
Yes 👍🏼
A load of technical specs and not a word about the sound. My only brush with Behringer was renting a mixer for live performance: the preamps were so thin-sounding and screechy it was almost unusable, but this was all we had. Never again! Honestly, if this is your business, I would rather pay the money for pro-level equipment than get caught out. I don't trust Behringer gear. My lowest threshold is now Mackie, Allen & Heath a main go-to, and QSC preferred. Maybe things have changed in 10 years?
Definitely talked about sound, included a swept sine measurement of the mic pre & recorded the entire episode using the mixer. You might check out my friends at City Tech up in NYC who published an ABX blind test between a behringer x32 console & a Yamaha CL5 - not a single person could tell the difference repeatedly in a controlled test. controlgeek.net/blog/2019/5/3/comparing-yamaha-cl5-and-behringer-x32-mic-preamps-using-double-blind-abx-testing
@@DcSoundOp Thanks for the input. My experience was some while back-I’ll check out the link. Maybe things have changed.
Surprised it doesn’t have SD card recording like the Zoom ones 🤔
It seems like you can get an SD card recorder built into everything these days, it certainly is handy!
EPIC GAMER MOMENT
The big question is when will it be available. Them and Midas always do this they pre release a product and I won’t be out for 6 moths too a year after. It’s like they just tease people
I just looked this morning & Thomann has it listed now at 2 - 3 weeks until they have them & Sweetwater has 'We expect these to arrive in a few months' on their pre-order page. That could just be their standard language for pre-orders that don't have an exact drop date. It has changed a number of times since I've been watching it, not sure if folks who have pre-ordered already got more firm delivery estimates or not.
can we use this Behringer Flow 8 for worship band Guitar mic bass guitar
Yes absolutley, anything you can fit into 4 microphone inputs and 4 more line inputs should work okay. Thanks for the message Victor!
Are FX available in monitor 1 and 2?
Currently FX can only be sent to the Main L/R. Certainly something I'll be looking for in future updates too. Thanks for the question Preet.
@@DcSoundOp Thanks