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  • @microwaves25
    @microwaves25 6 місяців тому +121

    I'm a left winger but I'm also a pragmatist. Politics is a game and an ugly one at that and I think Starmer is the piece or character in this game that we need at this critical moment. I do worry that the left is going to make the same mistake and tear itself apart. Give this man time and we will judge him on his actions in office. He isn't perfect but there hasn't been a politician in the history of democracy that has.

    • @jakel8627
      @jakel8627 6 місяців тому +4

      Tell it how it is Spongebob

    • @robc7162
      @robc7162 6 місяців тому +11

      Same as you, my instincts are left wing, but without power what are they worth? After 14 years of greed, corruption and incompetence, I'm just relieved that we may finally have a Labour Government that puts the common good top of their agenda and sound like they will be competent in doing so.
      It would surely help their cause if they could come up with a couple of pithy phrases to help people understand what their aims are. If you take the time to look, the policies are there yet we hear the constant whine that people don't know what Labour stand for and they could do with summarising that for the masses a la "get Brexit done" (yes, I hated that too but it got the message over).

    • @patcampton7163
      @patcampton7163 6 місяців тому +15

      Starmer has torn the Labour apart. No one else. He is a real piece of work. I have supported Labour since Wilson. I'm not supporting this charlatan.

    • @patcampton7163
      @patcampton7163 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@@robc7162it won't be a Labour government. What does he have to do to.make you finally see who he is?

    • @nimzgaz7049
      @nimzgaz7049 6 місяців тому +3

      In 4 years you be wishing to get rid of kier. Follow the sheep and see where that gets you.

  • @andrewrobinson2565
    @andrewrobinson2565 6 місяців тому +4

    It used to be that the Labour Party wanted to get rid of class not "make us all middle class".
    I escaped Thatcher's UK in 1986 and never came back. I'm Brexit French now 😂🎉 🇨🇵🇪🇺.

  • @DINOROAR2912
    @DINOROAR2912 6 місяців тому +11

    I think its important to note that Micheal Sandels philosophy is never directly referenced by Starmer, he adopts similar language which could be argued to be equivalent to adopting the themes of Sandel, but that runs the risk imposing an asumption.
    Also, can we do away with "Starmerism" "Communitarianism" and just generally making things into an Ism, "Starmerism" makes for a good soundbite, but its psuedo intellectual simplification that makes a concept more abstract than it actually is. "Starmerism" = the values or positions of Starmer and his party, so calling it that gives a better indication of what you mean, position vs value, him or the Labour party.
    "Communitarian" feels much the same way, abstract for no reason.

  • @samcarena4702
    @samcarena4702 6 місяців тому +7

    Starmerism is an empty hollow vessel

    • @guywilletts2804
      @guywilletts2804 5 місяців тому

      Sunak-ism is about a hedge fund casino banker who screwed the country out of millions in 2008. Farage-ism is a posh boy career politician pretending he's something he's not. So what's your point ?

  • @turingtrading5301
    @turingtrading5301 6 місяців тому +27

    What does Keir Starmer stand for? Great question as no one is clear at all on this.

    • @nimzgaz7049
      @nimzgaz7049 6 місяців тому

      He just another left wing puppet. A opportunistic guy who changes his mind and does and say anything to win

    • @georgesdelatour
      @georgesdelatour 6 місяців тому +2

      There’s a writer who goes by the moniker “j sorel”. He wrote a piece at the Daily Sceptic called “Keir Starmer’s Coming Revolution is More Radical Than His Opponents Realise”. Even if you don’t agree with the writer’s political preferences, I think it’s a good analysis of Starmer’s world view and the likely policies he will implement.

    • @lynzannabel6990
      @lynzannabel6990 6 місяців тому

      @@georgesdelatour 👍🏽

    • @clivet3252
      @clivet3252 6 місяців тому

      @@georgesdelatour you're ignoring the fact that it could be utter bollocks

  • @beatricecowley4307
    @beatricecowley4307 6 місяців тому +24

    The Labour party was and should be again. The voice for the things that affect the daily lives of every day people. Whats happening is a party that is going pale blue. Work has to be safe to do. It has to have pay that cover a decent quality of life. By that I mean. Being able to buy food. (Nurses going to food banks is unacceptable) Having a roof over your head that allows you to feel safe and you wont be evicted from through no fault of yours. Being as ble to heat your home , have hot water. Maybe go for a meal or the cinema. Being able to live and work not exist and work.

    • @robc7162
      @robc7162 6 місяців тому +4

      Their new deal for workers policy is just that.

    • @keithparker1346
      @keithparker1346 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@robc7162Labour rarely mention the unemployed as if we don't exist

    • @raphaeldelaghetto4
      @raphaeldelaghetto4 6 місяців тому

      Well said

  • @rory4605
    @rory4605 5 місяців тому +1

    Good to see the Habsburg dynasty getting some air time.

  • @andrewrose7800
    @andrewrose7800 3 місяці тому

    What does Starmer stand for, what are his principles. In a nutshell, promise and pledge anything and everything to gain leadership and power. Once you've gained these, it doesn't matter if you break these as you can make excuses, blaming others and follow your own agenda.

  • @kapitankapital6580
    @kapitankapital6580 6 місяців тому +4

    This is fascinating, because the focus seems to be almost entirely on what Starmer believes rather than what Starmer intends to do. We're told about this man with all these noble principles, and yet in the same breath we're told he won't act on any of them in the name of "pragmatism". Newsflash: if you believe in something then you think it is the best policy to adopt; abandoning that is not "pragmatic", it simply means you never really believed in it in the first place. One has to wonder if Starmer is so interested in virtue over policy then why didn't he become a clergyman instead of a Parliamentarian?

    • @michaelcoward1902
      @michaelcoward1902 6 місяців тому

      It's because he doesn't appear to believe in anything except for his entitlement to number 10.

    • @mongoliandude
      @mongoliandude 6 місяців тому

      We can’t judge him on his actions because he’s not been in government. All we’d have to go on there would be how he addressed the conflict within the Labour Party, which was essentially to lock out the left of the party, so not especially inspiring.
      We then have to look to his words and his purported beliefs/values, but with his characteristic flip-flopping and reneging that presents a more dire picture.
      People are quite understandably unsettled.

  • @TheOGFrostiest
    @TheOGFrostiest 6 місяців тому +2

    Very well broken down and analysed 👍🏼

  • @matthew_whitfield
    @matthew_whitfield 6 місяців тому +1

    The amount of eye contact from George is astounding

    • @rory4605
      @rory4605 5 місяців тому +1

      I'm autistic, it would make be burst into flames.

  • @aianmacpherson6190
    @aianmacpherson6190 6 місяців тому +1

    Really helpful summery of the content of Starmer's thinking and how that gels with his shadow cabinet. It can be frustrating how cagy he is due to a pragmatic gole of getting elected, it can leave a seeming content vacuum.

  • @gabel5188
    @gabel5188 6 місяців тому

    Nice article, I was never sure what Starmer was about but this gave me an insight. Will be interesting to see when/if he gets into power how he will deal with the right wing as seen in America and in Germany.

  • @specialized500
    @specialized500 6 місяців тому +13

    Agree he wants to win .

  • @albertbrammer9263
    @albertbrammer9263 6 місяців тому +29

    Starmer getting advice from Mandelsohn is a huge mistake.

  • @gavriloking5637
    @gavriloking5637 6 місяців тому +2

    He is a politician, nothing more, nothing less .

  • @DanCThorpe
    @DanCThorpe 6 місяців тому +1

    The project will fail because you can't grow your way out of the mess we're in without state spending. So after an anemic and short lived period in power Johnson will be back with a vengeance. The fault will lie squarely with the 'pragmatists' for their lack of ambition.

  • @crayontom9687
    @crayontom9687 6 місяців тому +4

    Power for power’s sake. The heir to Cameron

  • @rpb583
    @rpb583 6 місяців тому +1

    Labour really have to get off the fence and tell us what we might be voting for. They cannot just keep quiet in fear of making a mistake.

  • @archiemcberry7102
    @archiemcberry7102 6 місяців тому +6

    Sir Keir believes exactly what you believe. And if you suddenly change your mind he still believes as you. Sir Keir is your alter ego, a true leader who has your best interest at heart. Believe in Sir Keir and your worries will disappear.

    • @markblance8492
      @markblance8492 6 місяців тому

      Wow, if only this was the case. What is he a Demi god?

  • @Vtwin_Superbikes
    @Vtwin_Superbikes 6 місяців тому +3

    Ive been outside of the UK for 10 years, i only really know about Starmer by how commentators (left and right) talk about him, and they broadly do him a disservice. I hold my hands up and admit i prejudged him as i thought he was just another career politician, but listening to this it seems he has lived a full life before entering the frame which i am a strong advocate for everyone doing (i don’t think career politics should be a thing). So by default he gets my full backing.

    • @clivet3252
      @clivet3252 6 місяців тому

      So the work experience kid talks a load of nonsense trying to make out Starmer is not just a wooden puppet and you lap it up?

  • @jamien134
    @jamien134 5 місяців тому +2

    Blimey George Eaton, talk about being the inspiration for the Easter Island Statues! That's a face made for radio if ever there was one!

  • @PaulMcCaffreyfmac
    @PaulMcCaffreyfmac 6 місяців тому +1

    Flogging blogs is where the world has got to but 'personality politics', though it gives you twenty minutes of free material, is the last thing we want after the utter shambles of recent years.

  • @Ps5GamerUk
    @Ps5GamerUk 6 місяців тому +5

    Great job thumbnail maker, lmao

  • @PERRITOCBA
    @PERRITOCBA 6 місяців тому +2

    Robin Cook and David Lammy in the very same sentence…

  • @davidalderson7761
    @davidalderson7761 6 місяців тому +4

    UK politicians believe in themselves and also power. Nothing more nothing less.

  • @welshaccenttutorials3104
    @welshaccenttutorials3104 6 місяців тому

    Good analysis. thanks

  • @willrelf1377
    @willrelf1377 6 місяців тому +12

    Cringe client journalism from the New Statesman.

  • @jacobcapon4271
    @jacobcapon4271 5 місяців тому

    The Labour Party is a centrist party Now, starmer is that incarnate.

  • @profc9916
    @profc9916 6 місяців тому +9

    Winning elections, at essentially any cost. Next question?

    • @robc7162
      @robc7162 6 місяців тому

      You wanna change the world you need to win elections.

  • @StevenHolmes-s3e
    @StevenHolmes-s3e 6 місяців тому

    Starmer is a politician!
    He can’t explain why Brexit was a problem while still being in the opposition!
    When he is elected he will change his tune and will then promote
    closer relations with the EU!

  • @durinvoronwe
    @durinvoronwe 6 місяців тому +18

    The references to the dignity of work are very Biden-esque.
    Biden and Starmer are in some sense quite similar: pragmatic center-left politicians from a working class background that seeks to chart out a path distinct from both the old neoliberal order and the progressive movement.

    • @keithparker1346
      @keithparker1346 6 місяців тому +2

      No seriously no

    • @Ahrimas
      @Ahrimas 6 місяців тому +1

      I can see the similarities now you mention it

    • @michaelcoward1902
      @michaelcoward1902 6 місяців тому +1

      I'm laughing at the notion that Biden and starmer are center left.
      They're centre right

    • @durinvoronwe
      @durinvoronwe 6 місяців тому

      @@michaelcoward1902 I'll concentrate on Biden because I know him better. When he won in 2020, he basically campaigned on the following:
      1. A return to the political status quo pre-Trump and consensus building (centrist)
      2. Increased state investments post-covid focusing on the green transition (left-leaning)
      3. Increased welfare programs (left-leaning)
      4. "US-liberal" advancements in for example criminal justice reform, immigration and gun policy (may or may not be considered left-leaning).
      Summing all of this up, I'd label it centre left.
      In office, he has adapted to Congress and bad approval ratings. On point 1, he has not gone further right. On point 2, he did exactly what he said he would do. On point 3, he tried and mostly failed in congress (with some exceptions in the original American Rescue Plan like the temporary tax credit and higher minimum wage for federal workers, as well as $160B and counting in student debt relief). On point 4, he tried to get bipartisan compromises, mostly failed (apart from a small gun law and protecting same-sex marriage), and then pivoted to the centre. In addition, we can add foreign policy, where he's governed as a centrist (Ukraine) and centre right-recently-turned-centre left (I/P). So his term as president has been defined by a mix of centrist and left-leaning policies. A centre left label seems fair to me.
      Of course, if you define left/right simply as socialist/capitalist in absolute terms, I'd agree that he's centre right. But it seems lees useful to "calibrate" the scale in that way, as it would place almost all policitans and voters on the same side.

    • @clivet3252
      @clivet3252 6 місяців тому

      Oh get over yourself.

  • @profc9916
    @profc9916 6 місяців тому +9

    What are the chances we can get through a conversation about Starmer without mentioning that he likes football?

    • @okokokjack
      @okokokjack 6 місяців тому +1

      He does though.

    • @chrispalmer7893
      @chrispalmer7893 6 місяців тому

      @@okokokjack So did Michael Howard, so I think the football thing is pretty much a wash

  • @TheLucanicLord
    @TheLucanicLord 6 місяців тому +1

    Where's Anoosh? Has she gone to visit Sangita Myska?

  • @markblance8492
    @markblance8492 6 місяців тому +6

    What does Starma stand for. That’s simple……. HIM SELF

  • @StratsRUs
    @StratsRUs 6 місяців тому +1

    Power for its own sake.
    The Tories that joined Starmer have not changed their political stance.
    Yet, 'Labour has changed'.
    To accommodate the Right , not The Left.

  • @harry-vt7ep
    @harry-vt7ep 6 місяців тому

    Starmer has a lot of hopes riding on him to stop the decline of the nation, which has been almost by design been happening ever since the Condems era through wilful neglect or deliberate policies to make the average brit poorer

  • @TouringTony
    @TouringTony 6 місяців тому +8

    Now that Elphicke has joined Starmer it's clear he doesn't stand for anything.
    He wants power for its own sake

    • @CodeCancerLab
      @CodeCancerLab 6 місяців тому +5

      Of course he wants power, he has none at the moment and can't do anything after a lifetime of achievement in Law.

    • @keithparker1346
      @keithparker1346 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@CodeCancerLab ok Labour gain power what changes are you expecting from them?

    • @dreamcrusher112
      @dreamcrusher112 6 місяців тому

      @@keithparker1346 in a first term not much - in a second term could be quite transformative culturally.

    • @keithparker1346
      @keithparker1346 6 місяців тому

      @@dreamcrusher112 so nothing then

  • @JohnKerley-t8b
    @JohnKerley-t8b 6 місяців тому

    So after all that we still don’t know

  • @SD-wg3xo
    @SD-wg3xo 6 місяців тому +1

    Appreciate Eaton's analysis here but starting every answer with 'YEH! Soooo ...' very quickly becomes jarring to listen to.

  • @kayedal-haddad
    @kayedal-haddad 6 місяців тому +4

    Starmer should have gone down a Blue Labour route rather than a Blairite route!

    • @theodoremcalindon
      @theodoremcalindon 6 місяців тому +2

      Excellent comment totally agree

    • @kayedal-haddad
      @kayedal-haddad 6 місяців тому +1

      @@theodoremcalindon I think it would have resonated with Labour voters a lot more!

  • @zepecaos
    @zepecaos 6 місяців тому +4

    You are putting ideas on Starmer and over interpreting. Starmer is not saying what Sandel thinks. Rather that intuition, you are attributing ideas he does not have clearly.

  • @Glasgow_kiss
    @Glasgow_kiss 6 місяців тому +7

    when tories feel right at home in your party, you are no longer a left wing party. they havent been for a long time, but still stands.

    • @albertbrammer9263
      @albertbrammer9263 6 місяців тому

      When he accepts Natalie Elphicke I feel like throwing up.
      Sickening.

    • @zedrake
      @zedrake 6 місяців тому

      It’s already been stated that Elphickle won’t be standing for Dover and the existing Labour candidate will remain there. She’s also been offered nothing.
      She has zero power and she’s essentially been gamed to speak out against the Tory’s and all for the price of nothing. She’s not going to be on the benches in a few months

  • @alst4817
    @alst4817 6 місяців тому

    I didn’t understand very much of this…also apparently Harry Potter became a journalist.

  • @gullygullible9774
    @gullygullible9774 6 місяців тому +6

    Starmer is a paid stooge for Mi5 😊

  • @brianoriordan7281
    @brianoriordan7281 6 місяців тому

    Does he make good decisions? Did he see what the consequences of coming late to the table on the Gaza question. Has he understood the damage to the party in the forthcoming election if giving the Whip and almost certainly promising Ms Elphick the opportunity to stand for Labour in the GE when it comes. I welcomed his being made the leader but I confess I worry about some of his decisions.

  • @davidhodgson3901
    @davidhodgson3901 6 місяців тому +5

    Answer: winning elections

    • @DonxKarleone
      @DonxKarleone 6 місяців тому

      And after that? What then?

    • @chrispalmer7893
      @chrispalmer7893 6 місяців тому

      @@DonxKarleone If he doesn't win, that doesn't matter. It's an inherent flaw in democracy - what it takes to win election doesn't in any way correlate to what is needed to be an effective government once you've won.

    • @keithparker1346
      @keithparker1346 6 місяців тому

      In short you have no idea ​@@chrispalmer7893

  • @matthewkeating5963
    @matthewkeating5963 6 місяців тому

    I have a funny feeling he will surprise us all.

  • @tapaarn5863
    @tapaarn5863 6 місяців тому +2

    Whatever Starmerism is, take it away, I don't want it.

  • @galatechsuts8877
    @galatechsuts8877 6 місяців тому

    Giggity

  • @rogerhigman7568
    @rogerhigman7568 6 місяців тому

    A really good and informative discussion - with exactly the right conclusion. Can Starmer deliver for people in this country. Personally I doubt it, but I'I'll gladly be proved wrong.

  • @alisonc297
    @alisonc297 6 місяців тому +4

    Yep, still non the wiser re Starmer... my only certainty is that I don't like his Gaza stance 😒

    • @fslinteriors7889
      @fslinteriors7889 6 місяців тому

      "A ceasefire that lasts. This is what must happen now. The fighting must stop now." - yes, a very controversial stance, how dare he.

  • @andrewrobinson2565
    @andrewrobinson2565 6 місяців тому +1

    Can we call any person's politics an "-ism" if that person hasn't been in power?

  • @jonathanfell688
    @jonathanfell688 6 місяців тому

    I'm on the Left. There is no point in me and others being purist. Starmer's future Government will be very distinctly different to Blairism and more Progressive. I very much like the Practical strain within, things we can Actually Do rather than Dreams.

  • @-i1007
    @-i1007 5 місяців тому

    2:14 the dignity of work is straight out of joe biden’s playbook

  • @pranabdas8570
    @pranabdas8570 6 місяців тому

    Hope labour wins .

  • @princeofchetarria5375
    @princeofchetarria5375 6 місяців тому

    I don’t care about Starmer’s personality. I actually like boring politicians. What I (and most normal people) *hate* is politicians who go back on their promises. Starmer has U-turned on the majority of important pledges that he made during his leadership. To me it’s straight up dishonest and he has lost my support. It’s a shame because if he’d only been consistent and honest, he could’ve been a leader that I was happy to support.

  • @gilgamecha
    @gilgamecha 6 місяців тому

    What flattery to call it Starmer-ism. There is no Starnerism, only Starmer. There is no detectable principle. It is just Mandelsonism. Blairism without the spark.

  • @RegionalVariation
    @RegionalVariation 6 місяців тому +1

    How to talk for half an hour about bugger all is exemplified by this pair in this video, replete with Corbyn jibes. Client journalism for Starmer. Insufficiently challenging waffle, bereft of evidence and data, full of their slants.
    And they opine on why he public distrust politics and politicians!

  • @debbiegale9076
    @debbiegale9076 6 місяців тому

    Why are you seemingly to recognise a need for a drop.in immigration rather than challenging that. We know we need a population boost as people aren't having enough kids. Or is Starmer going to incentivise people to gave bigger families in some way?

    • @keithparker1346
      @keithparker1346 6 місяців тому

      Labour support the 2 child benefit cap they want people to have less kids and to be more reliant on imported labour

  • @sidensvans67
    @sidensvans67 6 місяців тому +4

    Blue rinse Starmer .. .. Proper Tory Boy .

  • @paulronalddoe4548
    @paulronalddoe4548 6 місяців тому +3

    Nothing...Won't vote for them.

  • @SWCM-g2m
    @SWCM-g2m 6 місяців тому

    What he stands for today will be different tomorrow.

  • @Taporeee
    @Taporeee 6 місяців тому

    Power without Purpose

  • @willrelf1377
    @willrelf1377 6 місяців тому +6

    He stands for the establishment, austerity, giving cover for genocide, crackdown on protests.
    I’ll never vote Labour again.

  • @indefatigable8193
    @indefatigable8193 5 місяців тому

    4:17
    I actually agree with this. And further, I think this is where the left is going.

  • @keithparker1346
    @keithparker1346 6 місяців тому +1

    Starmers Labour more interested in accepting right wingers than left wingers

  • @CaptainValian
    @CaptainValian 6 місяців тому +1

    Politic is done. You just don't get it yet. People have had enough of lies. All parties are the same just slightly different flavours.

  • @georgesdelatour
    @georgesdelatour 6 місяців тому

    He's a Pabloist.

  • @MrTzimisces
    @MrTzimisces 6 місяців тому

    Easy. Starmerism is a clone of Cameron & Osborne economics

  • @RegionalVariation
    @RegionalVariation 6 місяців тому

    These two are smoke blowers: insufficiently critical client journalists angling for cushy gigs over the next 4 years of a Labour government.

  • @thecrimsondragon9744
    @thecrimsondragon9744 6 місяців тому

    I find Freddie incredibly attractive 😍❤

  • @jakel8627
    @jakel8627 6 місяців тому

    Kier Starmer has changed the Labour Party and will achieve a lot while in office, but he's kind of become "populist-lite" and so I'm voting for the party I always vote for - Lib Dem 🔶️

  • @khar12d8
    @khar12d8 6 місяців тому

    The middle class have become increasingly Labour. Parts of the working class have shifted to the right. If Starmer does actually boost trade union power/ workers rights etc... It would be interesting to see how parts of the middle class react to that i.e. business owners, middle mangers etc... I think part of the reason the middle class have become quite comfortable with Labour is because Labour often do not threaten them like old Labour was perceived as doing. But a Labour govt that boosts the power of trade unions, increasing the likelihood of strikes etc... May find it begins to lose some middle class support overtime.

  • @BeccaWithers123
    @BeccaWithers123 6 місяців тому

    What a load of waffle

  • @DaraM73
    @DaraM73 6 місяців тому

    ?

  • @mariamorgan8447
    @mariamorgan8447 6 місяців тому +6

    Narcissistic. He is Right Wing

    • @albertbrammer9263
      @albertbrammer9263 6 місяців тому

      Would fit in Thatcher's cabinet.

    • @sfire8111
      @sfire8111 6 місяців тому +3

      How on earth can you call him right wing? He is an extremely centrist man with some minor left wing ideals. He is what the country needs after the Tories have been putting the country into continuous decline.

    • @markblance8492
      @markblance8492 6 місяців тому

      @@sfire8111Yeh, he’ll do the same as every Labour government, Spend to increase the feel good factor and tax raise poor sods who can be bothered to work…..!

    • @danielwebb8402
      @danielwebb8402 6 місяців тому

      He's proposing tax and spend fall to 40% GDP? Max was from 97-07. He's going to weaken "workers rights"? Reduce regulations generally?
      "Anyone right of me is right wing" is neither true or winning thoughg process.

    • @keithparker1346
      @keithparker1346 6 місяців тому

      @@sfire8111 how is Labours continuation policy going to yelp our nation?

  • @danielwebb8402
    @danielwebb8402 6 місяців тому

    I'm not sure about stand. But i know what he kneels for. Not the UK.

  • @AdastraRecordings
    @AdastraRecordings 6 місяців тому +1

    I couldn't vote for anyone with a name that rhymes with Llama.

  • @ivanconnolly7332
    @ivanconnolly7332 6 місяців тому

    Keir stands for his Israeli handlers.

  • @kevinmcgovern762
    @kevinmcgovern762 6 місяців тому

    He’s a hypocrite

  • @kevinmcgovern762
    @kevinmcgovern762 6 місяців тому

    Hes a hypocrite

  • @gerardshort531
    @gerardshort531 6 місяців тому +7

    easy, the status quo. He's the other cheek of the same stinking arse.

  • @NumberOfName
    @NumberOfName 6 місяців тому +2

    He has turned Labour into UKIP which is why Elphicke has joined.

  • @drkseidis8055
    @drkseidis8055 6 місяців тому

    this is quite embarrassing 10/15 mins in

  • @cherylburrows1655
    @cherylburrows1655 6 місяців тому

    Starmer is an opportunistic personality. Opportunistic can often be confused with being ruthless. He has lied and betrayed his way to become leader. If you vote him in to numbe 10 Downing Street you'll regret it

  • @archie7218
    @archie7218 6 місяців тому +1

    We need someone more charismatic at these times who can bring people together. He is dull as dishwater and so uninspiring. Someone like Andy Burnham would be far better

    • @andybrice2711
      @andybrice2711 6 місяців тому +2

      I'm not sure charisma is a good thing in politicians. It usually just helps distract from their ineptitude. Look at Boris Johnson. I think I'd prefer a country run by wonks and boring geeks.

    • @keithparker1346
      @keithparker1346 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@andybrice2711just a shame that Labour are both boring AND clueless

  • @NinoBaggins
    @NinoBaggins 6 місяців тому

    This is embarrassing

  • @romaix84
    @romaix84 6 місяців тому

    I'm commenting on this so that I can come back this time next year and point out what a load of total shite this analysis is. Barely an inch deep, massively naive about how right wing and neoliberal Starmer is, completely myopic towards Lammys awful record on foreign policy (an even racism!) utterly impressionistic view on class. Watching this back after the betrayals come thick and fast will be as satisfying as it will be depressing. In fact the New Deal for Working People has already become 'unrecognisable' according to unions.

  • @sebastianaminoff9703
    @sebastianaminoff9703 6 місяців тому

    Absolutely nothing.

  • @hughcaskey9542
    @hughcaskey9542 6 місяців тому

    Simples starmer stands for nothing a complete waste of spacev

  • @julianshepherd2038
    @julianshepherd2038 6 місяців тому

    Ermine