Copper Tubing is HARD
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We've done almost every type of watercooling, except a couple, and today we finally ventured into using metal for tubing, and boy was it ever a battle.
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Fill the copper tubes with a mix of water and lots of soap, put them in a freezer and you can bend them when the water is frozen, they use this method when they make bends for trumpets and other instruments, it should work here too!
This is how they bend tubes for musical instruments
@Furbloke this is what happens when you do not read the whole comment :)
Except instruments are brass not copper.
NKProductions2014 Except brass is 70% copper...
Thats brass man;might not work
_In tomorrow's episode..._ *_Gold Tubing is EXPENSIVE_*
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wait... how to make *italics* on yt?
@@Scar7ace 11/10 price to performance value and 6,5/10 gaming power (0.5+ with i7 8k 1.0+ with 1070 or Vega 56 1.0+ with 1080 or 64 1+ and 1080ti 1+) but overclock your ram! High Boost
@@Xenoray1 i dont need 9/10 or 10/10 bcs i'm an teenager and i work so my budget is around 700euro
But thanks anyways
Gold actually dissipates less than copper
Wait, can you overclock the tubing?
Because its a type k
I like where your head is at, go on
Get out
i know this post is old and all but i would just like to say "HHHNNNGGGG" thanks and have a nice day
that tube better run at 5ghz, else it's trash.
Yes, the i9-copperK means it's unlocked.
"more affordable" - costs 500 dollars. Looking at 30-series :eyes:
I mean, MSRP is reasonable. Real world prices? Yeah, not so much
ur a few years late dude
Evan8506 and ur not?
it now goes for more than both of those cards combined 😳
Arty Knots gpu prices are insane I just wanna get off my stupid garbage 980 ti
Now that’s a PRETTY build! Great work, Jake (oh and also Linus, I guess).
It makes me wanting a copper Macbook. You should plate a Mackbook body with copper and make a video from it! If you do mention my comment here! :)
FUCK UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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@@Scar7ace ''Ddr4 2400mhz ram'' how much tho?
@@MrTheSmoon 8gb
Now they have to invent a new kind of metal. RGB Copper.
Nah. RGB copper-silver-gold
Oil slick metal Hardline liquid cooling tubes
Heated titanium pipes.
Mokume-gane
zac is the best league champ.
"never messed with copper in water cooling" "whole room water cooled project"
Linus is not wrong, he personally never cut or bent the copper pipe in, "Whole room water cooled project."
Yeah that was Luke's dad who is a plumber.
It was also not an internal loop.
Never *successfully* messed with copper in water cooling
I miss Luke :/
This is one of the first water cooled builds I've seen and actually liked. Between the color scheme, the copper pipe and the case specific res you have a very clean looking build with some sexy straight lines.
"Copper tubing is hard" - brought to you by the plastic tubing gang
this post was made by
imagine having to
waste earth's minerals
just to be a tube
the plastic tubing gang
@@joelrolo1915 at least it can be properly recycled...
@@JGnLAU8OAWF6 woosh
@@Smile4Killcam123 🤔
Yea no shit. Just because you have zero experience doesn't mean it's hard, you just suck at it
That's the kind of video I like to see from you, no drama, no crazy dumb stuff, just plain ol computer building with a touch of humor. Please make more of them!
agreed this was one of the best vids i've seen from this channel in quite a while..
@@isaacyoung1868 But flashy editing and *_MEMES HAHA LOL WE'RE SO HIP_* make more money.
I am quite experienced with plumbing. The "slightly thicker" pipe is type L, it is used for underground residential and commercial. Type K is the ultra thick one for underground water services (line from street/meter pit to house). You can also use copper compression fittings (5/8 in fits 1/2 copper) to avoid bends, and they would match the copper!
"it's called half inch but it actually has a 5/8 inch outer diameter" yeah, it's usually used in plumbing, where the flow rate (and thus inner diameter) is really important.
The funny thing to me is that the computer fittings and joints are probably shit. He needed to solder the joints the computer plumbing isn’t built to the same standards that plumbing for homes is.
Use animal instestines next time for a more "organic" look.
random stuff Well you saw him here
Or how about bamboo? Build a jungle aesthetic with bamboo cooling lines, yellow and green lighting and a wood case.
@@JeffDeWitt Not sure if this is sad or not, but that COULD be done and would probably look sick.
D+on't give him those kind of ideas. He just might do it.
look up "umbilical cord phone charger" like that
11:45 "Do you know how much work this was?...For Jake?" LMAO
(in the background) *a lotta work...*
wow I must have clicked this at 11:43
541 people didn't care lol
That's a beauty. Now how about a black interior with stainless steel tubing!
bit wit did an antirgb like this
Make friends with a metal plating guy and get it nickle plated
I work with copper tubing daily making industrial pressure control valves for water lines. I always thought it was funny how much people thought water cooling with soft tubing was finicky. I did get a chuckle at you guys not polishing before bending, definitely a learning experience there. But the brushed look is GORGEOUS in that build. A reflective polish would not have fit nearly as well. Great call on that. Such a clean, but industrial look to it. I love it.
Do a thematic build. Copper pipes and wooden case made from that cnc machein you just bought. Go full steam punk!
Neato
Oh hell yea
Yeeah
That is a great idea!
Awsome
Steampunk builds incoming
Already looking forward to that! LOL
Think of that with some of the retro-looking keyboards Linus has reviewed...
Going to try and mod a case to have copper tubing getting out and in the case, will be a fun project i think
I have one of the 'gold' accented boards from ASUS, copper piping might be a good accent it was polished to a nice sheen.
www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f143/copperhead-m3-update-1111469.html They already exist :P
I was about to comment this!!
As a plumber I can safely say that though I was really pleased to see copper in a build you should no there is no need to anneal the pipes or fill them with anything to get a smooth bend if you are using a bender. You only need to do this in situations where you are bending by hand for smaller or large radius bends.
Ah, thank you for your input!
wouldve been nice if he pulled out some flux and solder for the tight 90s
Pretty sharp looking build guys! Love that color combo.
Linus: we made a modest build
Uses a gtx 1080 ti and 8th gen i7 processor
probably just about 1400€
yeah i meant,if you have a money for expansive toolkit for cooper bend, sure you have a money for that. and also, this hard tube water cooled system is hard to upgrade
Yes, that is a modest build, in the world of hardware. High end would have been closer to 1k for the PCU, two $900 video cards and 32gb high speed ram, on a $600 motherboard.
Do a waterfall in a case. As in a very realistec waterfall with realistic looking rocks, trees, grass etc.
Not quite what you were thinking of, but check this out ua-cam.com/video/aPaBxfORaAU/v-deo.html
A clear evaporative water cooler with natural accesories? www.overclockers.com/nuclear-tower-water-cooling/
@@SdoggaMan amazing
All zen and shit right dog? lol
@@SdoggaMan bet those fish would all die, also imagine the mess when you feed them falling into your cards fan.....
"we're going to take a step back from insanity and build a modest gaming rig" *throws in a 600 dollar GPU and a 500 dollar processor*
That's fairly modest.
It depends
If it dosnt have quad titan rtx in sli and a ryzen 9 3950x with 1.5 tb of ram, is it _really_ worth building?
@@staycgirlsitsgoingdown2 which motherboard do you think is am4 and can handle 1.5 tb of ram🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@hardik6608 r/wooosh
Great work. The video was really well put together too!
Here in South Africa your copper pipes in your build will get stollen :ʼD
SO accurate actually.
I'm in the US but I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought about this right away. Copper gets stolen out of houses equipment all the time, at least where I'm from.
In Romania too :))
Amature at Everything yea if you live in the ghetto it happens alot
In Germany sometimes people steal railway cables for the copper.
There is a benefit to using copper in that you can use ethylene glycol as coolant since it reacts with acrylic. Which you may think is a small in any benefit, until you tried using a water cooling setup for more than 5-6 months and realize that keeping a water loop clean and corrosive free is hard. Your AIO cooler comes with glycol for reason. You could use plexiglass as well to avoid the problems with glycol but copper sure is shiny.
Acrylic water blocks... and res. glycol is not needed since PC doesnt freeze.
Naaa - live on the edge, use sodium!
But the other components are not copper hahahahahaha
@@bayanzabihiyan7465 true about the other plastic parts but the point about pc's not freezing is not a reason to not use it, ethylene glycol is not just an antifreeze it is also a coolant, it allows better heat transfer and conductivity than water and also inhibits corrosion.
@@stevefox3763 actually water cools better than glycol, that's why in your car you only run it strong enough to stop the freezing, other benefits are anti boil and less corrosion, but its well known in racing that straight water is better for cooling.
This is easily my favorite build from you guys yet. Seeing it done made it look not too challenging. Thanks for the tips about sanding. That's 100% a mistake I would make.
a work of art. amazingly well done!
Finally. My day job of being a plumber will come in handy on my next build.
That build looks clean AF too. However I would have used sand cloth on the copper. Sandpaper is too much work.
Next up, white PVC schedule 80, instead of copper. No bending of PVC will be necessary. Just a bunch of 1/2" 90° turns.
With that case, even more A E S T H E T I C with white PVC.
Exactly! But if i use copper i will most likely solder mine. Bending the pipes looks like a pain and the soldered will add a more gritty look
@@jfsjfs57
That would probably be the easiest way. I would never bend hard copper the way Linus done here. Too much work.
That's why there is soft copper. :)
i think if u wanted white on white like that. super clear glass with white coolant and matching white fittings would be the best way to go.
PVC would look awful
@@jfsjfs57 nah man it's 2018, just pro press that shit.
literal plumbing for ur pc
when you have issues you call a plumber, and they exaggerate the issue
lol
I love this build, it's so clean and so subtle. Like oh copper, that's sweet.
It's over the top and impressive in a way every rgb gimmicky gadget isnt
This is such a good video. You guys put so much work in. Like damn.
I work with copper everyday, and never have i heated up the copper for bending. we just use a bending irontool. But hey still good job
@@jchap15901 It actually does, Steel (Mostly Iron + Carbon) forms a phase called Martensite upon fast cooling (water quench) which is super hard compared to Pearlite (forms after slow cooling). Steel is then tempered to form "Tempered" Martensite which reduces strength but gives you ductility. Non- Ferrous metals (Al, Cu...) are usually solution treated and then quenched which softens the material, they are then aged (holding at high temperatures) to strengthen depending on the desired outcome.
@Glen van de poel I agree. Just use the iron bending tool. Imagine having to heat treat every pipe before bending it would take far to long.
well you rarely need your tubes looking good, you just need them to do the job
@@WolfsFriend42 Most water cooling parts are copper and brass only which doesn't result in noticeable galvanic corrosion. But lower ions in the water is always better.
@@brodie6500 Can you imagine them trying to get great looking solder joints in the apparent time frame they were hoping for?
Whoever writes those quotes under linus tech tips through the years should be nominated for Oscar. Never stops making me laugh
Originally Linus was the creator of those lines, but since they make many more videos, they all write them down on a spread sheet or something and they pick from there. It's what Linus said some time ago.
Mysteoa they used to do that but now the writer just writes it into the script that the editor looks at it while editing, Tarzan mentions it in his really long premiere video.
BergerMaestro Tarzan! Tarzan! ... oh huh. I see what happend to you. Fuck you autocorrect. TARAN. There!
That system looks nice ! ! ! seriously well done.
that ever-so-slightly tilted third cooper pipe, the one on the GTX 1080Ti, is triggering my OCD
Dude
PCMR FTW FUCK YEAH
Had to scroll entirely too far for this comment.
Was looking for this
Could have fixed that by doing a rolling set towards the distribution block
Sadly, if you have OCD with symmetry, hard line is not for you, there will always be something just a little off, a bend just a little obtuse or acute, maybe a tiny little warble in the run.
Whole room water cooling: failed becuase copper tubing.
Linus, couple years later: this video
I thought it failed because of that black reservoir they bought was contaminated with something and caused an algae bloom
Nah, IIRC it failed because it was pretty much impossible to keep stuff from growing in the loop, and the only issue they had with the copper tubing was leaking initially due to their own poor workmanship.
@@SteelSkin667 They also soldered the pipe together
@@SteelSkin667 That also, but the problem witht he copper tubing was that all the heat was dissipated through the tubes as they left the systems, essentially dumping all that heat back into the room, making the whole system useless.
@@kmcat yes and that is absolut fine
Thanks, this will definitely help me with my modded Christian Minceraft server!
IP?
What’s the dick.... uh... horse power? Of that Minecraft server?
Gimme dat christian side hug.
Chris-Chan Minecraft server?
Sieger can a atheist join the server lol?
I am a licensed journeyman plumber here in the states and i loved watching you figure out all the troubles that come with working with copper! thought of doing something like this myself but im not sure id want the added maintenance. you got me thinking linus, maybe i can make it look like waterpiping in your house with ballvalves and dual check valves, some real solder joints, and a boiler drain on the bottom for easy drainage...
You should keep the color of noctua fans! It is the only case-build that they could match! :D
lol so true these fans are so ugly but damn good at what they do ^^
@@fridaycaliforniaa236 i like them and think they look and perform better than the clown vomit RGB fans that flood the market nowadays. fight me.
5:34 Remember star wars kid? This is him now. Feel old yet?
Spiritual successor to Justin Y. are you?
@@carltonleboss this is what I was about to say
I was already old when I saw star wars kid.
Moar. Builds.
Beautiful system!
dang he's fat
Imagine spilling expensive water all over your pc
This post was made by air cool gang
.... Or get an aio cooler? No issues 10 years in. Custom loops are just for bragging rights and not worth the risk
Tomas Bodnar woosh
air>aio
"expensive water"
yea imagine burning your house with a pack of matches, shit just doesn't happen if you are careful
Thanks for making a video I can actually relate to. It's really refreshing.
I've watched this more than once. Couldn't help it. Still most beautiful PC you've made IMO and I would die to own this thing.
Wow. I would love to have these kind of system rather than rgb, seriusly it look fancy as hell
alvinston stephen
RGB EMPIRE) DEATH TO ALL THOSE WHO OPPOSE
I'm getting "whole room water cooling" flashbacks...
That looks pretty sweet, you've convinced me to add this to my list of things I might do in 7 years when I build another pc
you guys absolutely nailed the copper tubing look. Sand paper any higher grit would have made it look a little too shiny I think. Seriously, this is amazing.
you should use this metal tube making knowlage to make a brass pipe and tanked steampunk PC
brass may not be good for ions and corrosion tho
@@csjdruid434 You can just melt zinc over the copper for an outer brass finish. The inside would still be bare copper, but a beautiful gold finish on the outside from the resulting brass alloy. Gucci as hell
Did you forget the whole room watercooling?
nobody wants to remember that
So an indoor swiming pool?
I still think it would have worked if they had used different coolant, pump, reservoir, tubing, radiator, house and people.
@@GuvernorDave I'll edit my comment!
@@pjryan37 nah a fancoil
Used to be hard too. Now I am 4th year into plumbing and I just watch back this clip and realized I had all the tools to make it looks beautiful. I also know how to calculate the length and radias and how to make measurement inside.
"We're probably never gonna' do it again" laughed so hard at that. Nice work guys!
You should do a chrome silver themed build with chrome tubing, you can't bend it so you gotta use angle connecters for everything it's pretty cool
If money is no option you could bend copper pipe and then get then chrome dipped that would be dope!
Chrome plated copper. 'no ugh said.
That would work, but if it's chromed before bending the chrome will crack during the process. It would look cool though in chromed copper tubing.
I'm a plumber.You can get chrome coated copper and bend it with a plumbing bending machine.I do this a lot and it looks great and more professional looking than a bunch of extra connections which could leak
Nah. Chrome and silver are fine, but nickel is what you want, if you want the best looking mirror finish. Nickel over copper looks fantastic. You can even make it jet black, but still retain the mirror finish.
6:56
Me. On a boring Tuesday evening. And some other days of the week as well.
lmao
I have that case for my PC and i love it, fitted in with my corsair fans, rgb strips and Pro RAM it looks super nice, would recommend that to anyone looking for a case that is great at showing off the goods.
A few possible items you could use here are - an internal pipe bending spring, like with plastic tubing you have the silicone insert the metal spring does the same at stopping the tube getting squashed. Also to help polishing maybe try wire wool.
Sounds like you should be ready to handle quartz-glass piping next.
Those anamorphic lens tho! Nice touch!
This is honestly the nicest build I have ever seen
Thanks Linus I'll be sure to buy a large diameter bender when I need one.
My ocd is triggered by that ever so slightly slanted upper 90 degree part on the 1080 Ti.
OMG @eonik i thoughtr that was only me who noticed it.....i was gritting my teeth the whole video looking at it....like OMG why would they do this....such a tiny little adjustment of literally a couple of MM.... i actually think they have done this on purpose to make people rage....you just wouldnt leave that like that!
Oh man, me too! It's all I could see the entire time they showed the otherwise beautiful interior of the build. For such a simple solution, it's maddening that they didn't take the time to fix it and make it look so much better.
@@Elmojomo Im sure they did it on purpose, there is no way they wouldnt of noticed it, the cameraman would of seen it, and a whole host of other eyeballs would of seen it for sure 100%. Hey ho, never mind!
I always watch this cool pc setup by Linus when I actually is a poor dude who can't afford those pc
Zhang Bao we all are
Yep bruh
we are all as ik4nn said thats why are we watching these videos
Join the club Zhang! "oh we'll just chuck in a lower spec 1080TI........" poor things..........
@@joshsanderson5512 Wow. You don't need to call people retards. And what's with that facepalm emoji? Take it easy. Chill.
pin one end of soft copper on flat surface and roll it out, it will be straight without dents. Use a HVAC tubing bender for perfect bends. wire brush works faster than sandpaper
My last effort was a copper build. Bending is seriously way more effort than it looks. Not even kidding. You have to really want it. Also, copper finish fittings are rare right now, so I had to copper paint some of the special ones. Modern Master copper paint, with acid oxidizer to make the green patina effects. Very nice. And like Linus says at the end... Im never doing that again. Ever.
Imagine a steampunk case with copper tubes
...with hydraulic fans...
And a nice wooden casing
@@shutereye2634 and of course, gears...... lot of gears.
an analog clock in the front and you could make your reservoirs look like steam boilers that would be sick
exactly what i've been building past 2 months lol
The mis-matching RGB on the RAM bothers me
Lol epic - Tokyo machine!!!! I have been literally listening to that for months now, ahh water blocking builds look fun and sexy
The rocket league music 💀💀
Linus thank you you inspired me to do a copper tube loop so i am collecting al the parts i am doing the loop in a Lian li o11 d xl in white.
"Copper Tubing is HARD"
Laughs in HMV technician.
What is that?
Muwahaha in HVAC/Plumber
you know what would be sick? (use a rod insert of course) a hammered finish on the copper tubing.
That sounds amazing I might have to give that a try on my own copper build.
Oh yes peppered with dents, i believe it's called banded copper, i always thought it looks shit IMO high shine mirror polish is the best.
Sick build
You can also buy copper stub outs, they are pre bent pieces of tubing
okay so for anyone who is using CTRL + F to find someone who knows the music used for the PC showcase it's called Tokyo Machine - EPIC
hated that music, muted it thx
Ye rocket league's music is pretty good ngl
Thx a lot
Tokyo machine is awesome, beat saber PTSD lol
1:04 ṋ̖͙̺̼̜̤̑ͧ̍o̵̬͚̿͗
CR1Tr *n o*
Nice build, personally I would have gone for 1/4 inch chrome pipe but still looks good.
My favorite looking build.
The good old german UHU silicone, good for every situation in life .
UWU silicone
Isso
Whats the status with the lan party for 16 setup
Moonshiners fill the tubes with sandblasting sand and it keeps the kinks and deformations to a minimum, also blasts out easy with air.
Another option is a tool that is a spring thing that fits inside
This is Art!
What's Next? Silver? Gold? Platinum? I would like to see that? Title " Most expensive water cooling in the world"
They would need to make their own custom water blocks to prevent corrosion. Sounds like a cool project!
@@skaltura Good idea though Al-6XN would last forever and maybe look a little better.
I recon some gold plated cables would be great. Also gotta have the sapphire glass on the case with a bit of platinum (or even rose gold) plates for the motherboard shroud would be just nice
uranium
20? years later, those pipes will be most expensive part in that pc :D
i'm really loving the metallic copper tubing a lot actually.
Best build ive seen yet.
Think you need to do a copper set up and use an automotive radiator and fan set up.... sure, it'll take 3 or 4 gallons of coolant, BUT, i'll make those triple 120mm fan setups look tiny :P Also, did you forget to clean the inside of the tubes or just left that out.... if you heated the outside to bend it, the inside would have also oxidized....
I’m sure it’s been addressed already, but the reason it’s called half inch is because of the inside diameter. Piping is measured from the inner walls, as that’s what’s important to fluid calculations and such. Tubing, however, is measured to the outside diameter ;) thanks for finally getting me into computer building at 33
To add to the confusion, you've got (or had, in the 70s-80s) UK-Imperial plumbing which used the precise interior diameter, but METRIC plumbing uses outer. So 1/2" Cu (12.7mm i.d) is really close to 15mm Cu with 1mm walls (soft-drawn, 13mm i.d.), but metric hard-drawn copper pipe is 0.7 or even 0.5mm wall, giving up to 14mm i.d. (11/20"). So does the US vary outer diameter, which must make picking up the right solder fittings a real pain, or change the inner dia?
If any of you trys the sand method. Dont forget to compact the sand. Like give it some light hits with a small block of wood. Cap it off on both sides with some paper stuffed in to help maintain the compacting.
One thing that can help with bending soft metals such as brass or copper, find steel ball bearings with the ID of the pipe or tube (there is a difference between these two) and then fill the tube with wax this will give you a very precise very tight bend bend without crushing.
"It's easier to polish a straight pipe that a bent one" *wink - that's what she said
Not going to over kill it with a Intel extreme or titan card 1:50 and then maxes out the ram slots 2:15 and uses a 1080 ti guess Linus and I have different definitions for over kill
nicholas dean I mean it was only 32 gigs
@@chef6467 "only"....Hmmm
@@kiribati1719 isn't a lot...
I agree with what you’re saying however it isn’t overkill for someone who you’ll be doing this
This looks cool. I can never be bothered with water cooling. Fitting a normal heatsink can be stressful enough. I might make a curtain pole though.
Aluminium pipes would be cool too. Plus you can get them anodized to any color you want and the anodizing will make the surface electrically non conductive.
Who is here after "The ULTIMATE All White Build" video?
Guilty as charged.
It's not even all white tho
Hochtemperaturbeständiges Silikon. German engineering all over the place. XD
And "Der 8auer".
Jawohl!
Nope, Lian Li provided their engineering team, while he's provided a RECYCLED design from a former and already existing Lian Li line. They only use his name for marketing purposes, surfing on some marketing hype about a phantasmagorical "German Superiority" propaganda...
And yeah, Linus has that "cute and uneducated nazi side"... Like promoting such propaganda one-liner encouraging to perceive that "since it's German than it's superior"... lmao (also, try to say this to all those clients that got screwed by the Volkswagen scandal). Personally I've worked a build in a be quiet! Dark Base White limited edition. And frankly, although the end result is beautiful and my client very happy, it's one of the worst case I've had ever come up to work with. Bad mounting design, bad screws, bad side-panel design on the cable side (and not enough room), flawed charger on the top (it doesn't work well - if at all - with 3rd party "Wi-Fi" chargers that attach on the phone via some enclosure), etc... No "German über superiority" to be seen there XD !
@@HawkFest triggered?
@@HawkFest The only one talking about superiority is you. Hindsight right
Wow, this is indeed the best looking PC I have ever seen
I bet Linus has a lot of experience polishing straight pipe. Im gonna have to listen to him on this one!
Least he didn't mention using stainless steel wool for a finish that'd make you happy.
Editor: Temporary Guy.... after this B roll music selection I'm sure you're gonna have a bright future at LTT.
The real question is can you do it with liquid nitrogen?
You wouldn't want to use type K for LN2. I think ya might need ACR for that.
I'm just trying to imagine all the condensation on the copper tubes... At that point you'd have to cover the tubes. A running ln2 loop would be hard to pull off.
No. Check out kingpin's roboclocker ;)
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He has insulation over his pipes to stop condensation
How about liquid ammonia with proper chiller? Ha!
Very nice build, i like copper 😍
This is easily the best looking pc iv ever seen. Its absolutely beautiful.
it would be even better if it ws Nickle tubing
@@tourmaline7.3 I prefer the copper look