as a former employee of the Sea Grant program in the late 70's, i have heard this argument for the last 45 years, and even them the goverening people favored the commerical people over the recreational people, the by-catch that is killed by shrimpers and other net draggers is far than they are saying and the net dragers don't care as long as they make there profit. fact is you never here of these meeting till they are over. how many public people did you see at that meeting. this is all politics and they don't care as long as they get there check at the end of the month
I doesn't matter if you go to a meeting. They already made their decision. I have been fishing all my life in Carteret County for flounder and there is no shortage.
Having seen this in NY/CT/NJ, the fish move between state lines , no one can tell us with guaranteed specificity the movement of fish and any reasonable fishery management plan needs to be wholistic and applied to ALL states evenly and try that approach since previous methods have not worked. This is dejavue all over again and a COMPLETE mess.
So in other words previous years of gluttony and greed are showing up and now people who just want a few fish here and there are having to pay because of everybody wanted to get theirs and nobody cared about anybody else. How long was the conservation that they know about years ago anyway which could have already been in place and would have been better today but good old North Carolina the good old boys state.
For more than 40 years, NC commercial flounder fishing accounted for more than 98% of ALL southern flounder sold on the entire East coast....... Wonder what happened.
This is the first I’ve heard of these meetings. Where did they promote them in the newspapers of Beaufort. What about the rest of the people in North Carolina all way to the mountains
Thanks to the Supreme Court we now have the availability to challenge the national marine fisheries service an organization of politically appointees that are mostly commercial fishermen dictating to everybody else what we can keep what we can catch what we cannot catch it's time to change them in court as a captain in the Florida Keys I don't need somebody in North Carolina telling me what I can keep and what I can
There are three types of flounder in NC. Summer, Gulf, and Southern. Does all this mean the other two species are in trouble as well or is it just the Southern flounder? If the others are healthy why limit all flounder? What is the relationship between the three? Do they compete for forage? Does it have an effect on the Southern flounder? Are the harvest counts skewed by grouping all flounder into one?
I hope your actually getting paid for this because I can’t imagine supporting the NCDMF. regardless of stance commercial or recreational these management practices are FUBAR . So is the structure of the DMF . We are supposed to be a government for the people by the people. The appointment process doesn’t represent the populations using this resource. And if you think these meeting were an effective avenue to voice opinions or concerns rec or commercial you didn’t go.
He is 100% getting paid by the commercial sector to do this. His videos are wildly in favor of commercial. There's no way a reasonable person would defend less than 500 people getting to have a flounder season when there are over a million anglers who have paid to access the PUBLIC resource. We call it a public resource because it belongs to the public, not to private, for-profit, industries.
Jam packed boat ramps every weekend prove who should be getting a bigger share. So much more money for the state in Recreational fishermen! Ban inshore trawling!!
Please tell us whose side you are own...all you do is blame recreational guys for the issue...I would love to know who is driving your passion, NCFA...bet a dollar that is it...yeah, quit fishing because the commercial sector does no wrong...ban inshore trawling for 3 years and I bet you the Fishery will get better. Everyone has a part in conservation, so make everyone suffer and quit eating seafood...prove me wrong!
100% being paid by the commercial sector to spread this propaganda. I make videos showing the truth and I'm not being paid anything to do it. He's not even representing the majority of regular commercial fishermen who also hate the ridiculous waste of the trawls in our sounds. He only supports the big money that pays him.
I have to say you are doing great. The sports fishing men, if we go to the meeting they dont care what we say. The say their numbers are SCIENCE but thet dont have a way to prove there numbers. The have to come up with something to keep power and their job.
The average person does not know when the meetings occur or that they can even attend so it's not out of their ignorance is just they don't have the information.
It is WILDLY stacked in favor of commercial. We're the only state in the US to allow inshore shrimp trawling. Mexico banned it in 2015! It can't get any more obvious.
@@FishingwithBrewski Believe me, I totally understand that he's being paid by commercial sector. Of course he denies this, and while he may not be getting a "Paycheck" he is benefiting somehow. Heck for all we know they may be making his car payment.
as a former employee of the Sea Grant program in the late 70's, i have heard this argument for the last 45 years, and even them the goverening people favored the commerical people over the recreational people, the by-catch that is killed by shrimpers and other net draggers is far than they are saying and the net dragers don't care as long as they make there profit. fact is you never here of these meeting till they are over. how many public people did you see at that meeting. this is all politics and they don't care as long as they get there check at the end of the month
I doesn't matter if you go to a meeting. They already made their decision. I have been fishing all my life in Carteret County for flounder and there is no shortage.
If they wait until you quit catching them it's too late.
Having seen this in NY/CT/NJ, the fish move between state lines , no one can tell us with guaranteed specificity the movement of fish and any reasonable fishery management plan needs to be wholistic and applied to ALL states evenly and try that approach since previous methods have not worked. This is dejavue all over again and a COMPLETE mess.
So in other words previous years of gluttony and greed are showing up and now people who just want a few fish here and there are having to pay because of everybody wanted to get theirs and nobody cared about anybody else. How long was the conservation that they know about years ago anyway which could have already been in place and would have been better today but good old North Carolina the good old boys state.
For more than 40 years, NC commercial flounder fishing accounted for more than 98% of ALL southern flounder sold on the entire East coast....... Wonder what happened.
This is the first I’ve heard of these meetings. Where did they promote them in the newspapers of Beaufort. What about the rest of the people in North Carolina all way to the mountains
Thanks to the Supreme Court we now have the availability to challenge the national marine fisheries service an organization of politically appointees that are mostly commercial fishermen dictating to everybody else what we can keep what we can catch what we cannot catch it's time to change them in court as a captain in the Florida Keys I don't need somebody in North Carolina telling me what I can keep and what I can
There are three types of flounder in NC. Summer, Gulf, and Southern. Does all this mean the other two species are in trouble as well or is it just the Southern flounder? If the others are healthy why limit all flounder? What is the relationship between the three? Do they compete for forage? Does it have an effect on the Southern flounder? Are the harvest counts skewed by grouping all flounder into one?
The winning argument for answering your question is simply the general public cannot tell the difference.
Southern flounder are the ones we catch inshore. The other two are mainly caught on wrecks slightly offshore.
I hope your actually getting paid for this because I can’t imagine supporting the NCDMF. regardless of stance commercial or recreational these management practices are FUBAR . So is the structure of the DMF . We are supposed to be a government for the people by the people. The appointment process doesn’t represent the populations using this resource. And if you think these meeting were an effective avenue to voice opinions or concerns rec or commercial you didn’t go.
He is 100% getting paid by the commercial sector to do this. His videos are wildly in favor of commercial. There's no way a reasonable person would defend less than 500 people getting to have a flounder season when there are over a million anglers who have paid to access the PUBLIC resource. We call it a public resource because it belongs to the public, not to private, for-profit, industries.
Jam packed boat ramps every weekend prove who should be getting a bigger share. So much more money for the state in Recreational fishermen! Ban inshore trawling!!
Please tell us whose side you are own...all you do is blame recreational guys for the issue...I would love to know who is driving your passion, NCFA...bet a dollar that is it...yeah, quit fishing because the commercial sector does no wrong...ban inshore trawling for 3 years and I bet you the Fishery will get better. Everyone has a part in conservation, so make everyone suffer and quit eating seafood...prove me wrong!
100% being paid by the commercial sector to spread this propaganda. I make videos showing the truth and I'm not being paid anything to do it. He's not even representing the majority of regular commercial fishermen who also hate the ridiculous waste of the trawls in our sounds. He only supports the big money that pays him.
I have to say you are doing great. The sports fishing men, if we go to the meeting they dont care what we say. The say their numbers are SCIENCE but thet dont have a way to prove there numbers. The have to come up with something to keep power and their job.
The average person does not know when the meetings occur or that they can even attend so it's not out of their ignorance is just they don't have the information.
They haven't opened anything for the fisherman if you look at the blue lines just forget flounder
Might have a chance legally of you go to the green swamp and fish in a mud hole it's legal there
So, Why do you think they didn't vote for the 50/50 allocation? You think the deck could be stacked towards commercial ....
This guy is paid by the commercial sector to do this.
It is WILDLY stacked in favor of commercial. We're the only state in the US to allow inshore shrimp trawling. Mexico banned it in 2015! It can't get any more obvious.
@@FishingwithBrewski Believe me, I totally understand that he's being paid by commercial sector. Of course he denies this, and while he may not be getting a "Paycheck" he is benefiting somehow. Heck for all we know they may be making his car payment.
How many days can commercial fishermen fish. Give us the same days and the same amounts,
It’s not this and that it’s because the falling away is here my friend. Money money not to care about people the people that have no money.