Adidas Takumi Sen 8 50-MILE Full Review
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6/10 for 177g ? This makes no sense man, for what this shoe offers this is great weight
Makes sense if all/most reviewers deliberately disagree so the consumer buys all !
I own these and I like them a lot. I've been running for decades and this is a special shoe. These scores make it seem like a middling offering from adidas. I have no brand loyalty. I've run in nike, adidas, asics, hoka, new balance, etc. I've run in all of those in the last two years. This is an amazing shoe. If you run somewhat fast (under 8 min/mile), and you regularly run at least a 5K distance you should try these. They are special and there is a buzz about them for a reason.
Agree there... First run in the them for me a 5km road race and took 43 seconds off my PB 😳 no issues with fit, comfort or stability. Lock down worked brilliant for me, can't fault them
How long did they last?
I feel like the weight scoring needs fine tuning. You seem to be all over the place and quite random sometimes. I expected this shoe to get a good score. People use the Vaporfly for 5ks and 10ks too, and the takumi has similar stack to the originally 4% so you could run a marathon in it, people just expect thick shoes now. I think you should also include how heavy the shoe “feels” on foot. Sometimes you give poor scores to heavy shoes with bouncy foam that don’t feel heavy at all. Just my 2 cents
His weight scores have too much influence on the final score yet it don’t matter as much
I really dont know what this guy wants
This guy seems like he has biased views when looking at the other shoes he compared this to.
I dont think I’ve ever disagreed so much on a shoe take from SJD
I realize your reviews are subjective, but wow you really missed it on this one. I’m not a Adidas fan, but this shoe deserves more credit than you gave it.
I've got to say, your scoring system is extremely inconsistent and frustrating to work with. This shoe is lighter than all that you compared it to, yet you gave it a "low" weight score. But that's the other thing - I've watched dozens of these videos and you've never given a single attribute of a shoe a 10/10, and I've also never seen you go below a 3/10 for any attribute of a shoe, even when you've said a shoe is unusable for you because of how bad a feature is. Everything is either a 6/10 (bad), 7/10 (good) or 8/10 (great). There's not enough differentiation to actually make meaningful distinctions between shoes/qualities. This makes your whole scoring system unnecessarily arbitrary and, in my opinion, totally useless. I think your thoughts/comments on the shoes themselves are usually pretty good and you put a lot more miles in on the testing side than anybody else, which is a huge strength of your content, but the scoring system frustrates me so much every time I watch one of your reviews.
Hope this comes across with the spirit it's intended with - I think your content could improve a lot with small tweaks and become a lot more helpful since you're already doing the hardest stuff very well.
I'm with the crowd here, weight is perfect when matched with performance IMO.
The shoes you put in the same category are heavier, two of which are pricier, and lack the performance of the Addidas shoe. They are not similar at all.
Low score for a bit of kit that'll get lots of people personal bests. (If they upgrade from the fuel cell or magic speed 😉)
Addidas need to sort out the uppers and lacing for sure, but I think that would make a really good performance shoe better. The review here makes it out to be a poor offering, which it certainly isn't in my opinion.
All the best , look forward to the next review.
Seems like some adidas bias. For what it’s worth, I agree with the comments, it might be about time to scrap this “scoring” system. I much prefer just hearing your personal insights.
Executive summary - I don't like adidas shoes. Otherwise I am puzzled how anybody can do a "full review" of a shoe marketed as a 5K/10K racer with no apparent work at those paces but instead footage of cautious easy running on icy roads. From my own tests I can certainly run at those race speeds no problem and compared well to the marathon racers (NEXT%2, Adios Pro 2) and even yes the Prime X. These days (at aged 55) I think though I just prefer the more "bouncy" rides in the marathon ones. IMHO then it is a good option if you prefer something bit firmer and bit lower to the ground feeling although compared to traditional flats lot more forgiving. I think we are spoilt these days.
Agree. Hard truth
Thank you! That's exactly what I was thinking. These are racing shoes, not daily trainers.
Seriously. I like Seth but until he races a 5 or 10K in these shoes, he's got no business putting out content like this.
@@scp025 16:20 5k in them in December, just a heads up... have a great Sunday!
@@nickatnite16 16:20 5k in them in December, just a heads up... have a great Sunday!
My favorite shoe of 2021- hands down! If I’m picky I’d give it a 9/10 but I’m happy to overlook those minor indiscretions for the amazing overall experience! I mean that’s what it’s actually about right ?
Adidas has a great line up...if you train consistently in them you will understand the rotation better and appreciate more:
- Adistar: long easy slow run, legs superfresh
- Boston 10: long fast finished runs or long runs with fartlek in the middle, legs superfresh.
- Adios 6: tempo/Interval training.
- Takumi Sen 8: 5-10k race day, some track intervals.
- Adios Pro 2: HM - full marathon race day.
Seth, I got to say that your reviews haven't changed for the better in the last few weeks and months. I'm not an adidas fan by any means, but what you crafted here just doesn't feel right to me - especially your comparisons to other models. For weight you are talking about the Next% and Metaspeed Sky - shoes that cost quite a bit more than the Takumi. For comfort the score seems to be completly subjective (which is fine), but you should probably note that those 5-10k racers NEVER are comfortable. Especially if you factor in the midsole - which you say you do - the Takumi probably has a comfort advantage over any of those classic racing flats. And then in your "other shoes to buy" section there is not even one 5-10k racing shoe?! You even mention the Fuelcell TC?! A shoe which weighs probably 50% more than the Takumi. I've watched all your videos for over 3 years now (I think), but I'm starting to skip the shoe reviews. Please try to focus on quality and the actual content and don't got overwhelmed by all the shoes companies are sending to you.
@@nickatnite16 same here. at one review he says he gives lower pts because he wants less outsole to make it lighter. another review he says he gives lower pts because there is not much outsole and that affects durability. and he keeps commenting that those 30+ mm midsole are not enough for full marathon when few years ago, even beginner marathoners, were wearing kinvaras and other lower stack shoes
You guys are all making great points and agree with almost all. This is a good channel but Seth is a complete anomaly to most people that may watch this channel, and their shoe needs are quite different. I also agree with the points that all of a sudden we can't run more than 10k if a shoe does not have stack heights more than 35mm. (Stack heights are getting ridiculous and unstable and I wish we would address that ... and the injuries that we are seeing because of heigh and foam softness) Zero reason why this could not be a marathon shoe for some people.
It's an objectionably bad review that is more about ego stroking than providing valuable feedback. The nosedive in quality as this channel has gotten more popular is pretty jarring,
metaspeed edge was pretty comfy if I'm not mistaken
@@Louis26Z I appreciate the feedback Louis
I've got the Adios 6. The poor mans Takumi Sen. And it's banging! love it. Feels fast, and does the Tempo/track job perfectly for me, and with a 30% code in the UK it was also a bargain.
I feel the Adios 6 would work better for Seth. It has a stronger heel counter, a collar similar to Boston 9s and the upper is different from the Takumi/Prime X.
The best. I use it for everything.
@@worldsokayestmountainbiker6131 Yes, they are narrow when compared to most modern shoes but not aggressively so. I wouldn't normally buy shoes reviewed as narrow but these seem fine to me so far. I have run 90 minutes in them several times and no issues yet (usually in narrower shoes I get little toe blisters).
@@worldsokayestmountainbiker6131 According to running warehouse my feet's wideness is below "normal" for my size and the shoes are true to size... In the Boston 9, I had to size up from 10.5 to 11, not in the Adios 6.
@@worldsokayestmountainbiker6131 Yes they are true to size. They sort of have this toe pocket (the shoe sort of ends in a v shape) at the front end so there's a lot of room up front.
Finding myself agreeing with lots of the comments re: scoring. For many reviews it feels like the scores seem arbitrary, or lacking context & research.
Even comparing in the 5K/10K flat category, many comp shoes are around the 6.0 oz mark in sz.9: NewBalance Hanzo, Nike Streak (pick a version), Saucony Type A9, as well as most previous version of the Takumi. The Reebok Floatride Run Fast Pro that is mentioned is a major outlier at 4.0 oz (so suppose that was a 10/10). The only comp I can think of closer to 4.0 oz is the NB 5280 that's at 4.8oz (and advertised as a miler shoe) or the Skechers GOrun Horizon Vanish 2 at 5.2 oz. The Floatride was also $250US.
The similar shoe comps at the end are all half/marathon races or "tempo day" style trainers, and not 5K/10K flats. It's this discrepancy that's jarring.
Like many have shared, I'd love to see some reviews without any scoring. There's really no firm point of reference so it's impossible to judge or compare scores between reviews.
Otherwise happy to see some Adidas reviews (even if I disagree): it's good to see some more discussion around them in general.
Your shoe reviews are getting bad. Way too harsh of scoring system. I’m not even sure if you know what you like in a shoe anymore.
Yeah do the mile repeats etc etc and come back and tell us how it went. Instead take a race shoe out for some easy miles in the ice?
@@TimGrose exactly!
Couldn't be more agree. He's just a bad shoe reviewer now. inconsistent person, and not so important in this shoetuberr anymore.
@@nickatnite16 I had similar thought so checked on his Strava and saw nothing much faster than about 7:00 min:mile pace and yet his 5K/10K pace would be 4:xx pace.
The scoring system has been very bad for a long time...myself and others were encouraging him to change it last summer.
Hey Seth, I don't get it.
You gave a poor weight score which was weird considering the weight of the shoe and you explained its on the heavy side for a 5k/10k shoe. But then at the end when you list other similar shoes - all of them were much heavier. And I bet you gave better weight score to the Speed 2, Rocket X, etc.
All that seems not logical to me, but may be I am missing something.
He is not consistent anymore. His review ia confusing. Better skip his shoe review next time
@@muh.irsanhidayat325 I wouldn't go that far or be that critical.
I personally benefit a lot from Seth's shoe reviews and I find them very useful. Noone is perfect, but in this case may be I missed something, that is why I am asking. ;-)
@@jp05598 but weight isn’t subjective. Whatever faults the Takumi Sem has, it’s very light.
I think Seth views shoes differently based on thier marketing, I think if he had been thinking of the prime x as a long run shoe it would’ve gotten a higher score. Similarly if the shoe had been marketed as a tempo day shoe instead of a 5k shoes he might have rated it differently. Overall It’s mainly his opinion and he shares all the weights that way you can go off of the actual weight as well as his opinion on the shoe
@@jp05598 absolutely that makes sense. Problem is I’m the shoe is lighter than the stacked shoes mentioned. Seth confused himself in this review.
As for the rest of the review, I think he just doesn’t get on with Adidas and therefore his reviews are a bit biased. I don’t get on with Brooks or New Balance so I would not score them highly for fit or comfort. But the fit and comfort are personal to me and how I’m built, so such a review would be worthless to most people.
Haven't really commented on your videos but been your regular viewer for almost 3 years? But that rating system is getting a little bit sketchy. Weight for shoe which is literally capable for running full marathon 177 g, 6 oz range is 6/10? I think there has been a little bit misjudged for rating on that part imo.
Otherwise, other rating was fine, upper and comfort are mostly based on your feet and years of experience on running with great shoes. Last chart with comparison doesn't quite fit your weight guiding ( 5/10k ) shoes since other are basically marathon shoes too!
it's not a marathon shoe though but the review wasn't particularly good I'd say
I picked this shoe up and it's fast! No wonder the Kenyans/Ethiopians are dropping fast times from 5k to the marathon. It has one of the best lockdowns ever and feels really nice on your feet. It feels nice on the track but even better on the road.
The rods in the Takumi Sen are not carbon. They are TPU, similar to the plate in the Endorphin Speed.
@@nickatnite16 seriously. This, the prime x, and the adios pro all have terrible reviews
@@christiangroendyk7198 one year later...lol
This review is total anti adidas.
I just bought a pair of these and maaaaaaaaaannnnnn believe me when I say these shoes are like wearing rocket fuel on your feet hahah. When you hold it in your hand it feels like a damn paper plate 😂 but I wouldn’t wear this on anything but race day and nothing beyond a 10K. Half marathon is pushing it
I am no althelet but judging from the comments, and from other youtube reviewers, tekumi sen 8 is a pretty good shoe. The environment when testing affects the results, curious to know if the cold snowy outdoor affects the ridr. I think 5k/10k comment really depends if you suit that style or speed. I am curious which demographic you target when reviewing these shoes or for your channel. Either way, you have started a lot of conversation from the viewers.
I literally picked up the Adios Pro 2 weeks before these dropped.. I don’t regret it at all because I got them on sale for a great price! This shoe looks fast and very exciting.
I see a lot of running shoe reviews. This guy is on Nike and NB favor, that is clear to me. Almost every Adidas shoe gets bad grads in his bullshit score. I by myself have the Prime X and absolutely love them. Very unique running experience. So I mean this guy rates shoes very much to his own preferences, which a is bad for the job that you are doing ☹️ And I am not sure he is even honest with the opinions.. Go to EdBud - this guy seems now honest to me.
I'm not sure tip toe ing around in icy conditions is doing this review justice....this is a race shoe for fast work....It would have been better reviewing the shoe with some relevant footage of fast work and comparison to RELEVANT alternatives. Fit is better half size down (for Adidas against most other brands) so fit score...If you're oversized by half a size??? The weight??....It is lighter than my Puma Deviate Nitro Elite....why was the Prime X even mentioned?... surely it would be compared to comparable shoes?.......I think you can see from the comments below, that most people found this review confusing and off point, .............This is without doubt ...THE BEST feeling shoe (Super shoe...The energy rods are TPU not Carbon) for stability during fast workouts and intervals.......great toe off ...(AND MY FEET USUALLY HATE ADIDAS!!....and this is the only one in my rotation....So no Adidas Fanboy Bias here!!)....The only down side is the eyelets are super tight ...which means micro adjustment of the laces ( a workout in itself) to get a great lockdown. My feet usually don't love Adidas shoes.....but this shoe is EPIC!!.
Check out his run on December 18 on strava and see if he only ran in the snow and ice in these. He was running in these before the first snowfall in Denver. I don’t agree with half of his reviews, as I am a 6’2” 190 lbs runner and the shoes feel different for me than for him, so go easy on the guy. Glad you like these though! It’s nice to see adidas come back around with some good shoes, as they had lost their touch for a couple of years.
That’s show business Stuart. I ran 50+ fast miles, this “run” was to bring you a little entertainment with your morning coffee ☕️ thanks for tuning in Stuart
Seth your reviews theese days are shockingly bad mate what's happened? You have become irrelevant in the shoe review world your hatred for Adidas is becoming embarrassing for your channel.
@@royahoy8655 Thanks Roy
@@SethJamesDeMoor keep it honest Seth. These haters are a bunch of adidas fan boys. I personally like the shoe and love how everyone has differing opinions on the shoe. Just tune them out and keep up the good work.
The HQ is actually right next to Puma's headquarters in Herzogenaurach, Bavaria since the founders of Puma and Adidas were brothers who had fallen apart at some point in their career and were battling each other ever since for excellence in sports shoes.
Apart from that, I agree completely with you Seth - again, who would have thought lol
The only thing I didn’t like about this shoe was the laces but after swapping them for the laces in my Mach 4s I absolutely love them. As soon as your out then on your just know it’s a shoe for running fast
I would submit that a durability score should probably go by the wayside on something like a 5k road racing shoe. It’s usually assumed that true racing shoes/flats aren’t going to last much more than 200 miles but then again, they’re not being worn as often in order to save them for race day
Unfortunately, this channel is extremely inconsistent and out of touch for shoe reviews. Kofuzi, Believe In The Run and Eddbud are much more consistent and quality shoe reviews. As a matter of fact, unfortunately I feel like this whole channel is losing it’s touch.
Seth instead of looking at "negative comments" as threats you should see an opportunity for improvement
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Browsing through the comments (after seeing a tweet about negative comments) I’m not really seeing many truly negative thoughts. Most are concern, constructive criticism, brainstorming and ideas, and some general light internet ribbing. Certainly plenty of value in the comments to be had for future change and improvement.
you are definitely biased against adidas. realize it and move forward
not so much, but thanks for the sentiment nonetheless, have a great Sunday Stuart
Yet another review where seth acts as if he knows better than designers with years of education and experience and that a company should feel honored to fly him out, give him the red carpet treatment, and listen to the demands of someone with zero practical experience in material engineering.
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Also the brands know what they’re doing. They COULD reduce the rubber volume on an outsole or slim down the collar padding THIS YEAR… or they can make some of those changes NEXT YEAR and market those improvements.
No shoe is the absolute best they can do, they plan year over year upgrades and make sure to hit their price points along the way. They don’t want to sell you a shoe, they want to keep selling you shoes.
The shoes are amazing. The scoring don’t make sense lol Adidas just give the guy some free shoes
In my experience they are at least equal if not better for HM/10k/5k efforts. The collar is better than the next%2 because has no chafing issues. plus is more stable when cornering and has more grip in the wet. "Plate" less obtrusive
Being cheaper than the Next % stock prize this would vouch for the Takumi Sen 8
Adidas sizing on these is off by a half size. Tried my usual 9.5 in the store, felt a bit loose (to Seth’s point). Put a size 9 on, and they were just perfect. Lock down, toe box… Seth if you can, get a a half size down… It might change your score. Thank you anyways for the review.
So I wonder for me if these would actually fit true to size because I usually have to go 1/2 size up in all Adidas shoes.
@@nathanbaker1727 it could be hit or miss, so I would recommend to try in a store if you can…
How is a 6.2 oz road shoe too heavy? Seriously?
in the 5k/10k category....great for 1/2 and full marathon category, as I mentioned toward the beginning, thanks for tuning in
@@SethJamesDeMoor Respectfully this is not a heavy shoe in either category and you compared it to the run fast pro which doesn’t have a carbon plate so that doesn’t make any sense. I think you should redo this review lol
Yeah, agreed. Seth’s obsession with weight has gotten a bit overblown. And in this case it doesn’t really make sense. But I guess we’re all entitled to an ocasional whiffer lol
These shoe prices are getting out of hand. Just bought a new pair of Saucony Speed from local running store for $60. Just buy last year version of shoe to save money and be happy.
There you go! I picked up a second pair of the speed as well a while back. Great shoe!
I think most runners do this nowadays 😅
buying shoes with their full retail prices are just illogical now.
it’s fun having the latest and greatest, but at this point running shoes are so good you can get a model from 2-3 years ago and still get great performance. we’re not in the old days running in Cortez’s 😂
Love the shoe for workouts. I’ve gone over 100miles in mine so far with about a half marathon distance as the longest workout.
If they made it £20 cheaper I’d be fully besotted.
Agreed. They make it pretty easy to get their discount codes etc, but the price is a bit aggressive. Really fun shoe.
I take Seth shoes’ reviews with a grain of salt bc sometimes I have the feeling it lacks specificity in the analysis, like with the takumi sen saying carbon rods, rather plastic ones, with lots of response whereas the actual carbon rods of the adios pro 2 lasted for a run or two, so you can’t make a thorough review I assume, and they were cut in half pretty badly to show a glimpse of the rods. I guess his best content it’s his mountain, drone runs and not as much for specificity of running shoes and gear.
I'm human too : )
thanks for watching!
@@SethJamesDeMoor admit it you don’t like Adidas at all 🤣. You might be overwhelmed for evth’s that’s going on with your life! Keep pushing! We can’t be the best at evth!
6/10 for 177g?🤔🤔
Poor content
Better shoe reviewers out there. Sorry Seth not subscribing to your channel
Really liking the Sen 8 for road-intervals. Better energy-return for me then the Saucony Endorphin Pro Plus, plus better lockdown once you get the Adidas’ (finicky) laces in place. Highly recommend the Sen 8 notwithstanding its weaknesses because it is such a smooth and propulsive ride - and the extra midsole foam makes it a really fun shorter-distance road shoe
Ran by your loop today Troy 👍🏻👍🏻 wonderful out there
@@SethJamesDeMoor ha! Meanwhile I was up above you on Mt. Lindo clinging to the titanium spikes of my VJ Xero 5s!
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? THE COMFORT IS MAGNIFICENT. THIS IS A GOOD MARATHON SHOE. SUBJECTIVE SUBJECTIVE SUBJECTIVE. ALWAYS RUN IN SHOES YOURSELF AND DON’T RELY ON ANYONE ELSE’S ASSESSMENT.
Adidas HQ is in a small German town called Herzogenaurach, which is near Nuremberg (Puma also located there cuz founded by the other Brother). Continental is also German, but from Hannover in the North.
Poor set of reviews recently, he clearly doesn’t get on with or like Adidas but that I think is his loss. I know for sure this is a lighter shoe than my ASICS and Nike that are mentioned - it is not “on par.”. It is a fast shoe not an ice shoe. I think the recent races and training from Seth show the speed he likes to run at, which is slower than this shoe.
He's 64 half marathon runner which is quite fast not many people are capable of running that speed. Don't know what you're talking brother. Although i agree the score for the weight of this shoe is simple wrong from seth.
Adidas is from Herzogenaurach (close to Nuremberg, Germany) :)
Funfact: Founder of Adidas and Puma are brothers :)
Good Morning, Seth. You mentioned it in today's video that you use several different shoes during the week. Do you think this affects your training ?
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That's incredible, so cool that you are chasing that dream as a JOB! love it
Hey Seth, you have any $200+ nearly new shoes you're going to be ripping apart and destroying again soon?
177g is a great weight, calm down.. And get down from your high horse, you are not as good as you think, so stop calling companies out, it’s only your personal opinion.. everyone would like to change a part of the shoes but that’s not how it works as it would not fit for someone else
I would love to get my feet in the Takumi Sen 8! When I originally saw it, I was hoping it'd be a decent lightweight long run shoe given that the stack is actually reasonable. That heel collar does have me concerned though...
A common misconception about my job: Working at Mcdonald's people assume I'm not smart or trying the best I can to find a better career path. One time a customer told his son in front of me, at the cashier register, "See son this is why you need to attend College, so you don't end up like this loser in front of me. Who can't count my change" I couldn't respond back as I would get fired if I did. Couldn't tell him or his son I just needed a year more to finish my B.A., I'm working and going to school. So yeah that's one of the many misconceptions people have over fast-food restaurants employees.
wow...
just.. wow...
people need to respect other people regardless of their jobs or economic condition in general. we don't know what others have gone through their lives.
respect for being in school and working, mate. Been there myself in the past. it's not easy.
I started in retail. I learned more about people there, than in college. Whoever said that in front of you has a lot to learn themselves. I respect anyone who works hard regardless of their level of formal education.
Runnings clips were of the Prime X Seth 😐😂
Like many have said I think your weight scoring is all over the place and is the major factor in whether you like a shoe or not. Think you put too much value in it when it doesn’t make that much of a difference in reality
Anyone recommend a light shoe that feels good at a slow pace but can go fast for tempo work?
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Happens all the time 😂 being “technical” can mean so many different things and have varying levels
Story of my life. :-)
One of my uncles refers to me as "you were a hacker, right?"
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These are fibre-glass rods not Carbon rods
You got it all wrong w this review. it was obviously wrongly tested in regards to surface you ran with it On snow WTF!
And the Weight is just amazing light. the stack height top. and the top is really top. I don t know how did you manage to Butcher this shoe!! .. Nike fan boy>??
QD: there are many misconceptions about my job as a university academic, but the one that stands out most is that we only work 8 months of the year. Many of my students and friends think that we get the same holidays as the students, 3 months during summer (in Australia that's December through to February) and another month between June and July. We get 4 weeks, plus public holidays, that's it people. The other misconception is that tenure is still a thing in Australian universities, almost 40,000 ongoing university staff have lost their jobs because of the pandemic in Australia, and there are still more to come, probably including my own soon. 🤔
most people think I have a job / career - misconception: I don’t 😆
QD: I'm a farmer, and what most of the people think about this job is that we farmers are great polluter. The majority of population doesn't know anything about agriculture, but people feel allowed to judge what we do, based on misleading information brought by media. Some time ago I read a motto on a shirt saying "being a farmer means feeding people, while they think you're poisoning them". It is very frustrating.
Hey Pietro, my family and I live in farm country and we appreciate everything you guys do. Just know there are some of us who know how important you farmers are!! Much love from Georgia, USA.
@@rollingknight2012 thanks Travis, I do appreciate. Greetings from Italy!
I am a recruiter for people who work on large powerlines (lineman) its a crazy job they do. We helped in the hire of a company president who builds powerlines using helicopters!
Get rid of the scores. Just use the pain chart to rate the shoes at the end. Quantifying opinion is a lost cause.
Just a question seth, why are you not sold on most adidas shoes? Is it materials, the design?
For some reason Adidas ship their shoes laced back to front and it’s hard to get a solid lockdown. Re-lace them going from under and the lockdown is much better 👌🏼
Seth why not try a different kind of shoe review for just one vlog? Wouldn’t hurt anything. If it didn’t go well you could always go back to the scoring system you have now?
Whatever you do the scoring system needs to be either eliminated and just give a review. Or simplified. Either a 1-5 or buy/ not buy. Right now it’s complicated and hard to follow. Maybe a vote through DGR how to change it?
QD: I’m a video remote sign language Interpreter for the Deaf. Most often people can’t conceptualize what that is and they think I just sign what the hearing person is saying to the Deaf person but they don’t realize I also voice what the Deaf person is signing.
Seth...what ever the shoe is ..when ever you are wear it..just amazing pace for us ...ok 👍😄
You should go half size down! Then Fit And Comfort will be 9/10! I used it at the Half Marathon and its working grate.
Honestly don't understand why buy seems he's giving adidas a hard time, every shoe he has tested 2021/2022 has just been slated, I've heard the sen 8 Is meant to be pretty good buy I guess its just people's opinions. 👍
My main concern about the durability of Takumi Sen 8 is the lateral side thin sheet of outsole which hold me back for purchasing it. How is the wear after your 50 miles test? :)
From the comments that I’ve seen, people have begun to obsess too much about the scores. The scores are an attempt to provide a level of objectivity. But they ultimately don’t matter. (Are you honestly not going to buy a shoe because Seth gave it a 6.7 instead of a 7.2?) The scores shouldn’t overshadow the things that Seth is saying-which tend to make sense but, as in any shoe review, is still just one runner’s opinion. But maybe I’m less concerned at the moment because I happen to agree with Seth in this particular review; I returned the Takumi Sen after one run.
QD: I'm a network engineer for an internet service provider. People think that means I know all about computers. I don't. I spend my day on text based consoles, I haven't touched MS Windows or Mac OS in years, and I'd probably have to Google your random printer issue.
Oh man that is easy for me, I’m a mechanical engineer, so the first thing almost everybody says to me is “so you work on cars and stuff?” Lol
Finally, been waiting for this review.
QOD: I’m a Police Officer soooooo……..I think everyone can fill in the blanks here and I’ll either say true or false🤷🏻♂️😂
Your winters over there seems way more fun than mine.. running in heavy winds has got to be the worse thing
Adidas is based in Herzogenaurach Germany and Continental is based in Hannover Germany.....
Hello Seth, I don’t know what happened with your reviews lately. In 2020 I bought most of my running shoes based on your reviews… and now I feel that you are a little lost… with non sense comparisons and your scoring system is a lot worst. Even your daily vlogs that I watch more than 90% are sometimes with no content.
You might be a little overwhelmed with everything that you want to accomplish (vlog, new logo, new house, new chat for members) and you forgot to put that hard work in your daily vlogs, which are the reason for your success! Hopefully changes are a foot as you said and it is for the better! Last year you forgot so many classic vlogs such as the Marathon Matrix (and 2021 was probably the best year ever for marathon racing shoes). I hope you find this critic constructive, made by a daily watcher since 2019.
thinking in decades not months, always long term tulio, always...thank you for watching for so long now!
@@SethJamesDeMoor if you keep uploading I will keep watching! I am sorry for the strong critics today! It is only because I believe in you so much! And I want to keep seeing you succeed more every year!! Onwards and Upwards
@@SethJamesDeMoor Keep up the nonsense your putting out Seth and nobody will be watching in months never mind decades.
Love mine... You kept saying carbon rods, carbon rods at the start. Look at the colour of those exposed rods... they're a composite, not carbon fiber!!!!
Would you choose this over a plated super shoe for a 5k?
QD: I’m a physical therapist and the most common misconception is people that that PT is only for people that have gone through a major injury or stroke. In fact some of my favorite patients are getting runners back to running pain free.
I totally agree. I had great success last year with a PT treating my Achilles tendonopathy. As of now it's almost back to normal and 95% pain-free. I need to keep doing those exercises!
@@davidgross7972 that’s awesome!! I’m glad that you got the help that you needed.
Daddy here: Ha! You kidding me!?! Here's how it goes; "Hey, so what do you do for a living?" Me: "Oh, i created and teach Wholistic Fitness®." Them: Eyes get the deer caught in the headlights look...!
Dewa here: I don't really have a job right now, but a common misconception about being in high school is that high schoolers don't have a lot of stress and if they don't get their work done, they're just lazy. I have founds this is definitely not always the case. A few misconceptions about being a runner is that you are mainly uncoordinated! (And in my Dad's words, obsessive and narrow-minded.)
You can now find the Reebok float ride run fast pro for super cheap at a number of stores. I found my pair for 69:99 at Sierra trading Post. Absolutely love that shoe.
How does it compare to other shoes u have tried?
QOD: people still have the impression that folks in sales are sleazy or sneaky. It’s not the 60s-70s anymore haha. Though I wound the mind being able to pour the occasional drink Mad Men style 🍺
If I cannot get a good lockdown or get lockdown at the expense of comfort, its a no-go
Carbon rods...oh really?
QD: I’m a dietitian and a common misconception is that we’re the food police. We’re not! We want you to enjoy your food ☺️
Unfortunately the rods are Nylon. Adidas Carbon Rods are Black, any other color from Adidas is Nylon.
misspoke, Prime X was reviewed just before hand
He also misspelled celermesh. This whole video
Was an aloof, dismissive takedown of a shoe that is worthy of a much better and substantive review than this.
relax guys. Seth has been reviewing shoes for years now. Sometimes he's on point, other times he's not. It's normal.
The thing we should keep in mind is that all reviews are subjective. If he feels the shoe is not working for him or does not meet his expectations, then the score is low. Doesn't mean it's a bad shoe. It's just not a match for him. But we can take some notes from his reviews, how's the upper, how's the midsole, etc etc. If you think your run form, foot shape etc is not similar with Seth's, you can think for yourself how you imagine the shoe will fit your runs.
I don't think Seth is biased (on purpose, at least). Maybe Adidas shoes in general are just not a match for him. Simple as that.
Even Kofuzi in the past felt biased to nike shoes. He always gave nike shoes positive reviews... which is contradictory to me, as I don't match well with most Nikes (except for the epic react, love that shoe...). But still, I watch all kofuzi reviews (and many others) to get the general idea about the shoe, before deciding what shoes to buy.
So, take the reviews as a subjective opinion from the reviewer, not a final judgement of the shoes.
Heel collar is a dealbreaker. And I have an opportunity to get this shoe for 140
Great review Seth! The Takumi Sen 8 is a fast shoe with great energy return and as you note I think its great for 10 -21K. But that's where the love ended as I found the shoe (as with most "super shoes") a bit heavy and not agile enough for a fast 5K Park Run with lots of sharp turns included on varying surfaces. Also as you note the laces on the Takumi Sen 8 tighten down too much and are difficult to easily adjust. The heel was also an issue - A bit "loosey goosey" and the shoe also tweaked my ankles causing achilles tendon problems on both ankles so all in all a disappointing no go purchase.
I pressed on this video so quickly im surprised lol
Continental tyres are from Germany
Unsubscribed. I don’t like the way you’re throwing Adidas under the bus with a bad score; just because of a lockdown issue. Not everyone wears a men’s 7-7.5.
Adidas, send the shoes to someone who wears a more common shoe size and not tiny feet.
Still depends how it fits your foot and everyone has it differently.
So carbon rods ??
I believe Continental are also German.
Lots of salty comments today! As someone who gets on well with adidas shoes, this is just how it is, shoes will work for some people and not others. Giving someone crap for explaining why something doesn't work for them just makes you look rude.
If you try to view it from a different angle, this review will be super helpful for someone who has a similar foot and gait to Seth, if you've tried it and get on with it, just go on with your life instead of getting worked up.
I think shoetubers need to start saying whom the shoe will work for if it doesn’t work for them personally. Seth has a tendency to be overly dismissive of shoes that don’t work for him but overlooks the fact that the shoe could work for someone else. This review on the other hand is just objectively bad from every measurement and doesn’t make any sense as he doesn’t do any apples to apples comparisons with the shoe.
the uncompetetive price alone tells me to wait for the NB pacer,the look,the fuel cell and carbon plate