Trains of Tomorrow: Comfort, Speed, & Innovation | British Pathé
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- Опубліковано 12 лют 2017
- In this collection of Pathé films, we see highlights of Britain's train innovations throughout the years along with an insight into what past generations thought the future would hold for train travel.
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(FILM IDs: 747.20, 65.04, 1761.06, 2065.25, 1799.15)
ALL ABOARD - RAILWAY MONTH (FEBRUARY 2017): Trains of Tomorrow
Watch these clips which predict railways of the future.
Music:
Monkeys Spinning Monkeys Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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That colour footage really brings the 50s to life. Amazing to see.
It certainly does!
It also highlights how drab our modern design aesthetic is. Those bright, cheerful passenger interiors looked like such cosy places to be, compared with the rather dour rainbow of plain whites, cold blues and dull greys we modern passengers have to endure!
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Ikr, i loved their vid on the montreal metro. Showing the Mr-63s on their first of what would be 52 nearly years of proud and extremely reliable service to the city i call home.
40s and before that too
I used to be a signalling instructor at Doncaster railway school which was just over the wall on platform 1. My overhead projector would vibrate when a Deltic had pulled up just opposite us and all my students would go to the window and look out in awe at these magnificent engines.. halcyon days 👏👏👏👏👍
Interesting
2:05 back when it was easier to make the whole scene move, than to construct a camera small enough to be rolled around easily
reminds me of Ren & Stimpy episode where they moved whole chimney to a single brick to complete the chimney
Shame it never happened
That prototype deltic must have seemed so futuristic at the time
it still looks
With the driving cabs shaped and streamlined like that of an aircraft for efficient airflow!
"If you must try out the new alarm it'll only cost you £5!" lol!
2:04 In Soviet -Russia- Britain, layout rides YOU.
Lol
It does go to siberia if you have no papers.
I would like to have the theme of next month's videos on fat men with two suitcases please.
Or perhaps an athletic woman in a hoop skirt carrying several hat boxes.
Wow I love trains
The hovercraft looks awesome.
We have them today its called Maglev
*****
aren't you the guy from the North Korea conversations? What is a Maglev?
Same principle, using some nice magnetism physics the train can ``float`` in this rail and travel at extreme speeds.
So crazy to see such an old prototype and now we have working maglevs traveling at 600km/h
+Rainer Hofstedt
Which North Korean conversations?? I cannot remember all 6733 of them.
Like João said, its the same principle using magnets to levitate over the rails and the magnets get electrically charged to move the train forward at insane speeds, its basically flying.
Maglev prototypes can reach speeds up to a thousand kph but because of such massive wind resistance maglevs would work even BETTER in vacuum tunnels achieving speeds greater than 10k kph of course you wont have the distance anywhere on earth to accelerate to such a speed and then deaccelerate.
And still only ONE short líne losing money... the maglev and others are not superior to a conventional railway.
The reference to the country's 'financial crisis' in the 1966 is interesting. Same thing most of the decades that followed - late 60s, 70s, early 80s, early 90s, 2008 onwards and now! Some things, including incompetent governments never change!
Love looking at these old British pathe videos
What a brilliant idea for railway modellers! Move the backdrop and have the train stationary!
Deltic prototype DP1, a Class 20, a mk1 coach... lovely stuff. What the future used to look like.
Everything is so cool, and clean! It's amazing!
500 hp?! was it powered by a fat man with 2 suitcases ?
fantastic video!
I must have been born in a different era cause these films are so interesting to me...I’m glad I found this channel...😊
“wide enough for a fat man with two suitcases” is astoundingly vivid
That's awesome footage !
That "HoverTrain" reminds me of the hyperloop!
Or the maglev that we all use in parts of Asia. 500 kph and driverless, yes.
@@ixlnxs not 100 percent sure but i think its the exact same idea just at a very very early stage in development.
Or a monorail
1:52 - Fascinating introduction to one of the great white whales of 20th-century railroading, the Advanced Passenger Train (APT). Delivered over 10 years late, and it still had problems like cracked bogie frames. If the Class 43 HST had not been successful, long-distance rail passenger service in Britain might not exist today.
Wow!
It's a really beautiful and cute video. Thank you very much for the good movie. It's the best.
Dec. 2017----Thanks for the videos. Of all of them, the last one about the monorail is the one I liked best.
Do you still have your suitcases?
"It would come bang on a financial crisis, wouldn't it."
They really jinxed it.
WOOW!
If only train rides are as luxurious as these...
The sleek new Deltic was designed with electric headlights. But that pointed to no longer needing the lamplighters and wick trimmers, so the headlights were blocked off and mounting brackets for old fashioned oil lamps fitted. Lol. So much for progress.
Headlights weren’t used on British rolling stock back then; marker lights or illuminated headcodes were deemed sufficient. The bracket shown is for mounting a tail light. The first production Deltic was briefly fitted with a flashing xenon headlight, which was no doubt extremely annoying to the driver.
3:17 - great shades. Somewhat at odds with trousers hoisted halfway to his chest.
British Pathé using Kevin McLeod's songs!💯
Trains! And Railways Please
I am sure I rode one of those first class carriages on a Bank Holiday weekend over Shap and Beattock Banks with my mother in 1984. Museum cars are all very well on a heritage line, but swinging around curves at 110 MPH it was a bit frightening. The roar inside the cars I have never forgotten.
British Mark one’s lasted in service until the 2000’s.
High speed on a CIÉ/IÉ HB 8100 class between Shankill and Bray is downright bordering on terrifying
I remember by great grandfather telling me he had seen one of these
Wow! Windows XP in 1964! AND then the hover train, which is still a pipe dream over 50 years later :-(
gakaface - Er, not really. It connects Shanghai airport to the city.
Does anyone have any idea what the music, used during the 1957 clip of the Deltic and new carriage designs, is called? It is probably library music, as I've heard it used in several films of the period from different producers - - including Pathé and British Transport Films.
Hard to imagine that driving a train by a propellor would ever make sense.
Well, it worked but it frightened the cows in the field next to the line so I suppose it was too noisy to be a practical proposition.
@@peterfreeman6677 but very useful for secretly testing the new engine and propeller configuration for the Luftwaffe......
@peterfreeman6677 The problem wasn't just that it frightened the cows. It was also safety concerns about the propeller (even though it was turned off while entering and leaving a station), and the inability to pull any extra carriages or wagons
6 fewer seats than previous for a bit of extra room! Good lord that wouldn't fly today!
they should do buses next 😊
i like trains
Just a thought but how awesome 😎 it would be if the prototype Deltic would run again be a massive crowd puller
I like trains.
The hovercraft is basically the concept model of the shinkansen bullet train.
Is that the train that was the inspiration for Hugo in Season 20 of "Thomas and Friends"?
Yes: ttte.fandom.com/wiki/Hugo
You are welcome! 😊
Theme for next month: miniature soldiers/ toy soldiers throughout the decades.
Advanced Passenger Train - So, the train stays still and the landscape moves? Also, woman at 3.42 looks like a young Maggie Thatcher! (Shudders). Great video.
Yes, a young M. Thatcher with gloves.
In the same way that when you jump, the ground comes back up to meet you. It's physics but not as we know it.
Hunter D Sure! If you like a five head! That’s one more than a forehead...
TRANS-EUROPE EXPRESS.....(BY KRAFTWERK).......LOVE THAT SONG.....
WD Harris - ‘Paris in the morning’
so fast 94 mph now I need get that ticket for that
What happened to our rail industry? We've gone backwards in many respects.
Hold on, is this really the same narrator spanning four decades?
They should overhaul the Original Deltic back to service for any anniversary of BR...or any time.
Zepp nice but ineffective. Deltic engine, an engineering marvel.
Why have one difficult to maintain engine when you can have two!
George G the zepplin train was from the 30s, the deltic was the 50s
Obnoxious Otter yes, but the zeppelin train was terrible in the 30s (massive spinning propellor+passengers standing on platform=bloody hell), whilst the deltic was great for the 50s.
Don't forget the Deltic opposed piston design was nicked by Napier from Junkers!
M.O.A.B. the self build motorhome. Don't forget that the Stephenson link motion was British, rendering the pluraity of locomotives pre 1930 British and discounting the progress of any other nation.
Wow I had no idea maglev technology was that old!
That first video was scary accurate
No its not
2:38 it's devious diesel!
Sheldon Cooper is drooling all over his keyboard right now.
Guilherme Silva FINALLY!! SOMEONE WHO KNOWS ABOUT TBBT!!
2:47 whose voice is this?
Comfort speed and innovation ... and what we non-first-class cattle got was the Pacer, of which nothing more need be said.
Inspiration for the Shinkansen?
Thanks to the tories we've actually gone backwards in our railway system.
i'd remind you of 1976 if you were there.
I was there, a great summer and a union strike every other week, but I still think selling off the railways was a bad job.
John Smith and the country needing to be bailed out by the IMF, much like Greece is right now, economic ruin in layman's terms.
Not nearly as expensive as bailing out the Banksters, or how much it is going to cost fixing the country after austerity.
Nope, privatization to German Companies
1:51, ummm.... HTS? Even looks like one too!
APT.
F for the respect for the scrapted steamers
The Schienenzeppelin looks remarkably like a first generation Shinkansen from the front.
Plus it is from the Weimar Republic
Is that Bob Monkhouse narrating some of those?
That hover train pretty much is a reality
Just look at the maglev
Hovertrain is moved by air and maglev is moved by magnet
Next month ships, if you please.
Our trains and railway networks are still dogshit to this day. Thank you, Lord Beeching.
Joe Chamberlain : All part of the plan to get us on the roads and burn their oil.
@@Uftonwood2 So that they, and the US, didn't screw-over Iran for nothing.
Laughs in japan
Beeching was merely the paid-employee scapecoat. The 'name on the door', which people remember; the 'file name': to this day, the stategy works: it was the Department of Transport, whose name still successfully remains blameless to this day who instigated the review.
Anyway, if all of those now-romanticly thought of stations were to return, the loss of natural habitat, peace, and pleasant walks should be very great. No great movenent of protest of people refusing to drive their cars has yet arisen among the locals near the closed stations. In fact, when they were open, most locals didn't use them; that was the greatest justification for their closure. Many signees' names on petitions of protest are gathered from those who may not use the services when they're there, but become outraged defenders of their survival when they hear of their imminent closure : but at others' cost.
There are plans though to reopen some of the stations. But there never was before the car any transport system which enabled the user to travel privately; in the temperature he wished; listening or not to the music they wanted; leaving exactly when they chose; waiting outside or near to their very doorstep; connecting to all roads in the country, and abroad, day and night. Add to these that now you cannot be guaranteed a journey without listening to another's thoughtless mobile phone gabbing; rowdy behaviour; and sometimes violence and sexual assault, if you look at the figures, and you soon realise that hardly anyone travelled inside a British Pathé news film even then; they were just, mostly, reluctantly going to work, and then, for the quite fortunate, to a coastal resort for two weeks in the year. Many shouldn't have chosen to do so should they have owned a car; exactly what they started to do when it became affordable.
And what do we have now? Uncomfortable, overcrowded and stuffy southern rail which only seems to operate half the time and when it does its often late! What happened to make the railways turn into this?
I worked for Connex and the South Eastern between 2001 and 2007 and I can tell you that for a short while the Gov took back control of the franchise, what they didn't tell people was that the service ran better, customer satisfaction rose and the workers were happier too, the Tories didn't care and sold the franchise on ideological grounds so as not to lose face.
I too was there, and yes, it was better for the short time Richard Fearn ( I think ) had it back from Gonnex as we called it ! One of our local "managers" went out to Boston, USA, no doubt she ruined morale etc there too. I'm glad I'm out of it. Ended up going under ill-health. All the problems Southern has now seem to be mostly caused by the ex - Gonnex idiots who took refuge on what was Gonnex SouthCentral back then. Still miss the growl of the old CEPs and the like when taking power. Today's kit has no character.
John Major, Elf'n'safety nazis, and privateering pirates like Connex. Don't be fooled. I see many names I recognise from those vile days. When they lost the South Eastern Division, they all sought refuge on Connex South Central as it then was. Many are still there contaminating the system. How anyone can say that the 375s with their Tesco Value Ironing Board seats are better than a MK1 EMU is beyond me. All Southern has to do is to just carry on as they did before, with the guard on the train. No biggie is it. But no, they want to re-invent the wheel again. I worked over the Central in BR days and it saddens this retired motorman greatly to see all this. In my day, I ran a PUBLIC SERVICE. Safety was NUMBER ONE. I know BR/NSE wasn't perfect. But it was surely better than the present dog's breakfast.
River Huntingdon Last time the Rail ran a profit was under BR, it's been loss making ever since the Gov sold it off and guess where all that money to prop up the franchises is coming from!!
Andrew Wenzel privatisation
One point two billion in 1957 on the modernisation program is £27 billion today. The only thing the UK government is spending that type of money on now is nuclear weapons(£150 billion) and a luxury train line (HS2 £50 billion), literally demolishing historic villages so that the the top 20% of the population can arrive in London from their shiny homes 15 minutes faster than normal.
What we needed was our goods lines put back in to free up capacity which could be done in house for less than ten billion, instead we are handing capitalists and their associated speculators 50 billion because apparently the market and capitalism are bastions of efficiency despite the firm building the sodding thing having already gone bust.
When HS2 is built the tickets for any trains running on that track will carry a premium. If we do not re nationalise, we will continue to be taken to the cleaners when paying for tickets.
I don't see why HS2 is needed on capacity grounds while relatively short (tilting) trains are used for the London - Glasgow run. Why not increase the train length to that of the Eurostar with e.g. 2 - 3 travellators on the platform, if required, to get you to your part of the train? Much cheaper than the £ Billions needed for HS2.
If HS2 must go ahead there would have to be a hefty green tax put on internal aircraft journeys to level up fares between Rail & Air for HS2 not to become a costly white elephant in my view.
I understand that HS1 has not been as successful as originally predicted.
That’s Hugo
Right your on a train for the future.. Check out the curtains.. yes cuss them curtains are future curtains.
480 quality wwwhhhaaatttt
What's a vestibule?
spottydog4477 - It’s the area at the end of each coach/car where you get on and off.
5 pounds fines! Wow
What's the alarm for?
@Indian Fascist Pull on that it applies the breaks on the train, today improper use £1,000 fine.
Keep in mind inflation, and the average wage then was £7. Not because they were poor, but because of - well - market inflation. So that fine would be worth nearly half your monthly work pay.
Is the prototype deltic preserved
Railroad,Preserver,2000 yes but it doesn’t run. There is at least one production Deltic which is allowed to run.
What about cars of tomorrow from england
as seen at cartoon Thomas & Friends
2:35 This Is A Newsflash. This Is Kermit The Frog Reporting From The Sesame Street News. X
Yeah....and look what we have now.
1:55 though a real train until
2:35
Is that Hugo from Thomas and friends
Yes
Well that is kinda like how trains are till this day?
Apart from the Class 47 and the tilting train model, nothing featured here is anything like what we have today.
Ironically Diesel engines in England proved to be more problematic and more weak than steam engines which by the time had most of them scrapped due to modernisation.
£5 to pull the emergency cord... we wish it was more like £200 + lol
And then... PACER arrived ;)
I'm sure the ladies of today would love a powder room!
Chris Johns they gotta tame those chaffing feminazi armpits SOMEWHERE...lol
Hugo?
Meanwhile in France it's 40 men/8 horses.
Is this what The Chicken of Tomorrow will ride?
94 miles per Aaaah..
It all went to pot once the vestibules were forced to get off at Clacton.
Is that the deltic that now lives at Shildon's NRM?
Yes
Next Month it should be Buses
Agreed. Or more trains.
Awesome Gaming what is this month?
MCW Metrobus in "TimeSaver" livery, now that's a bus!
Why don't more railways test for passenger comfort like they did back then?!
Because they've made trains almost vibration and noise free already so there's not much value in increasing the amount they do?
Is it even true that they're not increasing how many railways are testing for passenger comfort?
Also, maybe *all* the railways are testing for passenger comfort so it's not possible for more railways to do it?
hi
Ho... Hi Ho It's It's off to work we go !
The lady beckoning the waiter at 5:02 with her finger.. Seeing as how it is considered rude today, wasn't it considered rude back then? Or was that the norm?
@Martin signaling someone is one thing. But beckoning with a finger is rude. At least in India it is considered rude.
Sumedh Habbu So don’t do it in India.
@@samiam619 oh amazing piece of advise Wise One! I had never thought of that!
Hover car was abandoned
Amazing , when the English speaking world used to make their own trains , now they get them from Japan China France or god only knows these days .
Back in 78 we even made MK2 - based electrics for Taiwan. Look up EMU 100 and you'll see. They were built at York Works and the Taiwan Railways have preserved two sets in running order. Thanks to Elf'n'safety nazis you'll NEVER see a preserved EMU hit the mainline in the UK.
River Huntingdon but the Brighton Belle is set to run test trials by the end of 2017 between London, Croydon and Brighton? that's possibly one of the oldest feasibly running EMUs in Britain today...
That Brighton Belle will be a strange beast, the traction equipment was recovered from two 1963 - type units, and a lot of modifications were needed to the cars' semi-integral frames to make the B6 Motor Trucks fit ! The cabs will look rather like a later '63, would've been nice if they could've used the earlier English Electric controller with their bakelite spinning deadman. Strangely, a chap involved with it said that there's enough of the original traction gear left here and there to have done it "as it was". But no doubt the superb ride quality of the newer B5 trailer and B6 motor trucks'll be welcomed, the Belle could be pretty alarming if she picked up her skirts and really ran !
Casual racism at its finest
I ate some white bread today am I racist .
Ah building wooden carriages in the 1960s still. how behind we were / are. Maglev though. Who would have thought that would be as fast as it is? Oh yes, the Germans, Chinese and Japanese. 500-600kph.
Roland Lawrence they were only painted marron, they were made of steel.
And look how 'the future' turned out.
When profits become the motivation 😠
why is Ronnie Corbett narrating this?