I use these boards in my quadcopter builds and I have a 'miniracewing' on order. This video series came along at just the right time for me :) You have to be careful not to power too much from the boards 5v feed though, they have a tendency to cook themselves.
Howdy Callum, yea there is only so much current the onboard voltage regulator can provide. We'll touch on that in a later episode. For a flying wing that has 2 servos it should be fine. A normal fixed wing servos with 4 or more servos, yea could be an issue. Matt
Hi Matt, excellent series. One big issue which I believe has happened is that banggood don't sell that "advanced" V2 board anymore and your link now goes to "BF3.2 Omnibus F4 V2.1 Flight Controller STM32 F405 MCU Integrated OSD Built-in 5V BEC Current Meter". The problem is that there seems to be some issues with the V2.1 at the moment and it wont work with INAV at least in the setup you have given with SBUS on standard SBUS input (UART1?), you have to use UART6 for the SBUS and a special custom .hex file from INAV and put the GPS on UART3 and change the wiring of the GPS to remove the magnetometer, so not exactly an easy setup. This is my understanding from my attempts (still have not got it working) and INAV issue number #2576.
Thanks mate first off for all your help in past videos that have helped me out going to give this a go with a 800 reptile from banggood will use the F4 sold out of the other keep up the great work
Super video's, love youre nurdy TEC info! Awaiting for the nano with the clean inbuild camera, and als thinking building your brown board. Keep up the goog work! Greetings from NL
Hi Matt, thanks very much for your awesome and extremely helpful videos. I have one question on the Omnibus F4 V1. The description on Banggood states that it is does not have a barometer. Is this limiting in any way, e.g. for altitude control or otherwise. Thanks.
Thanks Matt , I may buy both versions of the board as they look like a good and cheap alternative to apm and pixhawk which I currently have.Also look alot easier to use plus the osd built in and I only use 3 main flight modes.Stabilize, gps position hold and RTH Looking foward to the rest of the inav videos :)
Howdy Anthony, yea once you have it working on one board, you can easily find out what the changed settings are, copy them and then paste them onto another board. Obviously you'll need to calibrate the other board and do the wiring for it. Thats what I've been doing :) Matt
I'm really glad there's a 2018 update to the series but you should update the description for new links. If I'm going to buy some things, I'd like it to support your channel, which isn't possible since your links are broken.
Hi Dustin, as you're aware this is an older series now. See the later videos, the Matek F722 board is definitely worth looking at and their PDB makes things much easier too. Matt
RagTheNutsOff I'm trying to join the Facebook group too. I'm watching this series and reading a bunch but I think I'm still going to have a bunch of questions. Excited to learn more.
Also, I really appreciate you making this series and all the videos you do. I mean, I know it's not out of charity, but there are other ways to get clicks and you choose to help people out. That's pretty great. Your style is interesting and unique, and maintains interest even through the "dull" bits. So yeah, thanks man.
Thanks Matt, great work! i ordered the F4 V1 and a Ublox mini Neo-M8N-GPS. I want to use 3DR telemetrie for ground station controll. Is there a video about it? Greetings form Germany
Dear Matt Thank you very much for answering my question about missions with INave. I listened the series about the INave, they look fantastic. I have the Mini Talon in the box, I already have the famous servos of mtalic gears and the sunnysky 1400KV motor I going to order the esc, the flight control system was wayting for more knolage. Initially I was leaning towards APM 2.8 but with this information it seems to me that the F4 bus will be a good option. Don't you agree? Since you spoke in external sensors to the plate like the speed control, can you cover that in the next episode? Can the APM 2.8 speed sensor be used on the F4 bus? To have the air speed? And use missions with QGC? Regards Vítor Lalanda
Howdy Vítor, QGC isn;t compatible with iNav I'm afraid. For the Mini Talon that model needs a custom servo ix which is covered on this page github.com/iNavFlight/inav/wiki/Custom-mixes-for-exotic-setups#v-tail-fixed-wing for the APM speed sensor, absolutely no idea! Matt
Hi, I made the same setting like yours, but mine the gimbal only move at about 90 degrees, it's like just about 50% of yours. Can you tell me why? All the settings I think is exactly same
I dont have pin for my SPRacing F3, do recommend solder directly servo cable to the board ... or get extension servo cable, cut and solder female connector to the board ?
Howdy Sajaks, if you feel comfortable soldering directly to the board, go for it. Personally I prefer pin headers as it makes connecting up the board a lot easier, hope that helps, Matt
I see that the version 2 board has a Barometer but v1 does not, This would be a lot more accurate in holding altitude also would help a lot with auto land. Still deciding if I should get a couple v1 or v2 boards for only $1 extra the v2 has current meter and Barometer.
Howdy Anthony, I disable the baro as that caused me issues first time around. The height is calculated using the GPS which will be fine for the vast majority of flying. I've got both types of boards, both work very well! Matt
Hello Matthew , great series , thank you ! I also came from apm and I fly a multi rotor , i also look on inav as an alternative to apm , however in the inav wiki they clearly say that for 3D position hold or alt hold a barometer is mandatory , it also does not say anywhere that the altitude is calculated using gps - On the contrary they emphasis that without a baro altitude must be maintained manually by the pilot in all modes were altitude is significant . I dont know a lot about fix wing but for multi rotors and especially for those that expecting similar functionality they had in apm (loiter , poshold , rth ) a barometer is crucial . for a multirotor altitude calculated from gps it is not accurate enough for 3d position holdr - since the gps alt resolution is in meters while a baro resolution is in centimeters .
yes, I'm aware of that - however your series in most aspects is applicable for multi copters as well :-) and many multi-copter pilots are finding interest in your series - especially those that are looking for a modern and not expensive alternative to APM .
Howdy Amir, yea I'll add an extra section for iNav in multi-rotors later. I have a 250 frame here with some new parts I'll use for it. Waiting on a ESC at the moment though! Matt
Matt thank you so much for doing this series I have been interested in this for a while but really needed the help with details. One question, I don't have Windows so I'm wondering is there an alternative way to get the board into boot mode so I cal load iNav? Thank you.
Howdy Jon, I'm pretty sure the board will load in DFU mode on a mac or unix system. I've not tried this myself, however google will be your friend on doing that part. The rest is platform independant Jon. Matt
Thank you. I thought it should but I haven't tried to boot a board before. I'll check out the other board you mentioned too and do some googling. Have a good one.
Hi Matt, for Inav fixed wing, do you suggest a barometer? If no, how will it affect RTH and Missions, etc. Also with FC's with built in barometers, will the altitude reading be off if it is inside a covered canopy?
How can we apply a better (external) 5vdc supply to this board so we can safely drive 5 servos or more..??....This I assume would mean disabling the onboard 5v regulator perhaps and adding the 5v from an external BEC via say the ESC??
Just ordered one Omnibus F4 and two GPS units with the idea of buying the V2 (Ammeter, BEC) version when they come back into stock. Will you post an affiliate link to the necessary plugs & cables as I don't have a huge inventory as yet.
Howdy fella, the only cable you may not have is a male to male servo lead, they're silly inexpensive and can be picked up anywhere, on BG, eBay & so on... Matt
Howdy Mark, I love my C1 Chaser it's a fantastic model. There is a "however" though, go for a Reptile S800 instead, they're tougher. I stuffed mine in a tree at ~100mph ua-cam.com/video/Wdg1fJC3SqY/v-deo.html Hope that helps Mark, Matt
Hi Matt. Thanks for the advise. Started building the S800 and taking my time. Question is: How do you arm the board to test servos etc? I'm getting an equip check failure even if I turn off the gps. Any ideas?
Hi there all. I am going to use this tutorial for a B 17 build. first time i have done a fixed wing but have built plenty of quads. was wondering if im going to run in to any other hassles or issues using an omnibus F4 v3 .Any support greatly appreciated tia
Hi Matt! Thanks for the great videohelp! Now, I used the link here and bought a FC but the GPS unit is out of stock at Banggood. Do you know of any replacement unit that works?
Howdy Joe, you'll need the 6 pin lead for the GPS unit, as for whether they come with the pin headers, that depends on the board and the supplier. Most of the times they do, but not always, Matt
Matt - I've been on BG's site and come accross an iNav F3 FC with an M8N GPS unit £40 what does yer think - I know you've gone to the trouble of packaging and appraising a system but - your thoughts - hell ! - probably lots of folk have other sugestions so maybe a bad idear to ask..joe
Howdy Joe, I'd buy the other parts as I've never used that GPS unit, not does the total price seem right either (as it can be bought cheaper separately) and you'll never use that GPS stand on a fixed wing model. Hope that helps Joe! Matt
I prefer F3 boards. I fly FrSky also, and getting the telemetry back to an XSR or an X4RSB receiver is plug and play with an F3 board - with an F4 board there is some extra soldering and it isn't quite as simple (thought still not difficult). Also, on a fixed wing, you're really not using much of the F3 processor - on my S800 wing I'm only using less than 10% of the CPU capacity, so the F3 board is way more than capable - and $4 less to boot (it was on sale for a while at only $17) (www.banggood.com/Betaflight-F3-AIO-V1_1-Flight-Controller-with-Integrated-OSD-p-1086563.html?rmmds=search).
Morning Kurtis, yep I noticed that too. Very low CPU usage which is promising so the board won't cook itself when enclosed in a foam model. The board I'm suggesting is the one I've used & know works well, so sticking with what I know, Matt
Howdy Vaug, frankly speaking, I'd not suggest a different one. Have a look on eBay instead. Those black puck ones have been reliable from the beginning for me. Hope that helps, Matt
Thank Matt for this serie! In my build (a quad 250 or bigger) I will like to try a F7 FC. Do you have any info / test about this F7s I find it here bit.ly/2zTXGVg Or perhaps is to early and I should go for F4? Thanks!
Howdy Salva, the F7 boards available, including those 3 are disappointing to be honest. Stick with a F4 board, for fixed wing, that'll be complete overkill with iNav, Matt
I use these boards in my quadcopter builds and I have a 'miniracewing' on order. This video series came along at just the right time for me :) You have to be careful not to power too much from the boards 5v feed though, they have a tendency to cook themselves.
Howdy Callum, yea there is only so much current the onboard voltage regulator can provide. We'll touch on that in a later episode. For a flying wing that has 2 servos it should be fine. A normal fixed wing servos with 4 or more servos, yea could be an issue. Matt
Just ordered an Omnibus F4 and GPS Matt....Look forward to your Tutorials on this...Thanks.
Howdy fella, happy days. If you check the FaceBook group, I'm posting them as soon as they're complete :) Matt
This has been fantastic so far! I'm stoked about the rest of the series!
Heads up Matt...The Mini Talon is on special offer at Bangood EU Warehouse again... £36 inc shipping....Keep up the Tutorials mate, good job.
Hi Matt, excellent series. One big issue which I believe has happened is that banggood don't sell that "advanced" V2 board anymore and your link now goes to "BF3.2 Omnibus F4 V2.1 Flight Controller STM32 F405 MCU Integrated OSD Built-in 5V BEC Current Meter". The problem is that there seems to be some issues with the V2.1 at the moment and it wont work with INAV at least in the setup you have given with SBUS on standard SBUS input (UART1?), you have to use UART6 for the SBUS and a special custom .hex file from INAV and put the GPS on UART3 and change the wiring of the GPS to remove the magnetometer, so not exactly an easy setup. This is my understanding from my attempts (still have not got it working) and INAV issue number #2576.
Thanks mate first off for all your help in past videos that have helped me out going to give this a go with a 800 reptile from banggood will use the F4 sold out of the other keep up the great work
Howdy Raeme, have fun! :) Matt
Thanks Matt! You are the best! I'm using Mac and I can inform you that it's no hassle. The (.exe)-file is for PC's. Mac is plug-and-play.
YAY happy days!
Super video's, love youre nurdy TEC info! Awaiting for the nano with the clean inbuild camera, and als thinking building your brown board.
Keep up the goog work!
Greetings from NL
Thanks Onno, Matt
Hi Matt, thanks very much for your awesome and extremely helpful videos. I have one question on the Omnibus F4 V1. The description on Banggood states that it is does not have a barometer. Is this limiting in any way, e.g. for altitude control or otherwise.
Thanks.
Thanks Matt , I may buy both versions of the board as they look like a good and cheap alternative to apm and pixhawk which I currently have.Also look alot easier to use plus the osd built in and I only use 3 main flight modes.Stabilize, gps position hold and RTH
Looking foward to the rest of the inav videos :)
Howdy Anthony, yea once you have it working on one board, you can easily find out what the changed settings are, copy them and then paste them onto another board. Obviously you'll need to calibrate the other board and do the wiring for it. Thats what I've been doing :) Matt
I'm really glad there's a 2018 update to the series but you should update the description for new links. If I'm going to buy some things, I'd like it to support your channel, which isn't possible since your links are broken.
Hi Dustin, as you're aware this is an older series now. See the later videos, the Matek F722 board is definitely worth looking at and their PDB makes things much easier too. Matt
RagTheNutsOff I'm trying to join the Facebook group too. I'm watching this series and reading a bunch but I think I'm still going to have a bunch of questions. Excited to learn more.
Also, I really appreciate you making this series and all the videos you do. I mean, I know it's not out of charity, but there are other ways to get clicks and you choose to help people out. That's pretty great. Your style is interesting and unique, and maintains interest even through the "dull" bits. So yeah, thanks man.
Do you have a video that shows how to setup inav with an airplane that has rudder elevator and aileron.
Howdy Estelle, just select a normal fixed wing model in the selection tab and hit save, thats all! Matt
Thanks Matt, great work! i ordered the F4 V1 and a Ublox mini Neo-M8N-GPS. I want to use 3DR telemetrie for ground station controll. Is there a video about it? Greetings form Germany
Howdy Frank, I've never used 3DR telemetry, however see the iNav wiki for more info on that github.com/iNavFlight/inav/wiki Matt
I should have watched that video before... I'm waiting for a SPF3 and a Ublox M8N. But having the build in OSD is such a good idea... Dang ....
Howdy Leo, yea the in built OSD is an inspired idea! Matt
Dear Matt
Thank you very much for answering my question about missions with INave.
I listened the series about the INave, they look fantastic.
I have the Mini Talon in the box, I already have the famous servos of mtalic gears and the sunnysky 1400KV motor I going to order the esc, the flight control system was wayting for more knolage. Initially I was leaning towards APM 2.8 but with this information it seems to me that the F4 bus will be a good option. Don't you agree?
Since you spoke in external sensors to the plate like the speed control, can you cover that in the next episode? Can the APM 2.8 speed sensor be used on the F4 bus? To have the air speed? And use missions with QGC?
Regards Vítor Lalanda
Howdy Vítor, QGC isn;t compatible with iNav I'm afraid. For the Mini Talon that model needs a custom servo ix which is covered on this page github.com/iNavFlight/inav/wiki/Custom-mixes-for-exotic-setups#v-tail-fixed-wing for the APM speed sensor, absolutely no idea! Matt
Tanks!
Hi Matt,You mentioned you will have to cut the connectors from the GPS Wiring and replace them.What sort of replacement connector do i need.Cheers
Howdy Laurence, it's in the video description, a JST SH 1mm Matt
Anddddd you just answered my question from part one 😂
Hi, I made the same setting like yours, but mine the gimbal only move at about 90 degrees, it's like just about 50% of yours. Can you tell me why? All the settings I think is exactly same
I dont have pin for my SPRacing F3, do recommend solder directly servo cable to the board ... or get extension servo cable, cut and solder female connector to the board ?
Howdy Sajaks, if you feel comfortable soldering directly to the board, go for it. Personally I prefer pin headers as it makes connecting up the board a lot easier, hope that helps, Matt
I see that the version 2 board has a Barometer but v1 does not, This would be a lot more accurate in holding altitude also would help a lot with auto land.
Still deciding if I should get a couple v1 or v2 boards for only $1 extra the v2 has current meter and Barometer.
Howdy Anthony, I disable the baro as that caused me issues first time around. The height is calculated using the GPS which will be fine for the vast majority of flying. I've got both types of boards, both work very well! Matt
Hello Matthew , great series , thank you ! I also came from apm and I fly a multi rotor , i also look on inav as an alternative to apm , however in the inav wiki they clearly say that for 3D position hold or alt hold a barometer is mandatory , it also does not say anywhere that the altitude is calculated using gps -
On the contrary they emphasis that without a baro altitude must be maintained manually by the pilot in all modes were altitude is significant . I dont know a lot about fix wing but for multi rotors and especially for those that expecting similar functionality they had in apm (loiter , poshold , rth ) a barometer is crucial . for a multirotor altitude calculated from gps it is not accurate enough for 3d position holdr - since the gps alt resolution is in meters while a baro resolution is in centimeters .
Amir Barenholtz Howdy Amir, that's correct. This series is for fixed wing, not multirotors. Matt
yes, I'm aware of that - however your series in most aspects is applicable for multi copters as well :-) and many multi-copter pilots are finding interest in your series - especially those that are looking for a modern and not expensive alternative to APM .
Howdy Amir, yea I'll add an extra section for iNav in multi-rotors later. I have a 250 frame here with some new parts I'll use for it. Waiting on a ESC at the moment though! Matt
Matt thank you so much for doing this series I have been interested in this for a while but really needed the help with details.
One question, I don't have Windows so I'm wondering is there an alternative way to get the board into boot mode so I cal load iNav?
Thank you.
Howdy Jon, I'm pretty sure the board will load in DFU mode on a mac or unix system. I've not tried this myself, however google will be your friend on doing that part. The rest is platform independant Jon. Matt
Thank you. I thought it should but I haven't tried to boot a board before. I'll check out the other board you mentioned too and do some googling. Have a good one.
Hi Matt, for Inav fixed wing, do you suggest a barometer? If no, how will it affect RTH and Missions, etc. Also with FC's with built in barometers, will the altitude reading be off if it is inside a covered canopy?
Howdy fella, see the next video in the series as the baro & mag use is mentioned. It i not needed for fixed wing models, Matt
How can we apply a better (external) 5vdc supply to this board so we can safely drive 5 servos or more..??....This I assume would mean disabling the onboard 5v regulator perhaps and adding the 5v from an external BEC via say the ESC??
Howdy fella, yep that would be the process, replace the BEC. Matt
Just ordered one Omnibus F4 and two GPS units with the idea of buying the V2 (Ammeter, BEC) version when they come back into stock. Will you post an affiliate link to the necessary plugs & cables as I don't have a huge inventory as yet.
Howdy fella, the only cable you may not have is a male to male servo lead, they're silly inexpensive and can be picked up anywhere, on BG, eBay & so on... Matt
Dear Matt. I have some experience of flying multi rotors. Is a C1 Chaser a good wing for a beginner?
Thanks for the videos.
Howdy Mark, I love my C1 Chaser it's a fantastic model. There is a "however" though, go for a Reptile S800 instead, they're tougher. I stuffed mine in a tree at ~100mph ua-cam.com/video/Wdg1fJC3SqY/v-deo.html Hope that helps Mark, Matt
Hi Matt. Thanks for the advise. Started building the S800 and taking my time. Question is: How do you arm the board to test servos etc? I'm getting an equip check failure even if I turn off the gps. Any ideas?
Hi there all. I am going to use this tutorial for a B 17 build. first time i have done a fixed wing but have built plenty of quads. was wondering if im going to run in to any other hassles or issues using an omnibus F4 v3 .Any support greatly appreciated tia
Howdy fella, no sure what you mean by issues, see the series. Matt
I mean that you speak of the v1 and v2 OBF4 I have a v3 and haven’t heard you mention that as yet should I just treat it as the v2 or is it dif again
Hi Matt!
Thanks for the great videohelp! Now, I used the link here and bought a FC but the GPS unit is out of stock at Banggood. Do you know of any replacement unit that works?
Howdy, Have a look on eBay, there are lots on there, I'd suggest the same unit as they have worked really well for me. Matt
Thanks, Matt! Have a great day!
Matt - Do the F4 V1&V2 boards come with cables and pin headers - if not are they packaged somewhere else...joe
Howdy Joe, you'll need the 6 pin lead for the GPS unit, as for whether they come with the pin headers, that depends on the board and the supplier. Most of the times they do, but not always, Matt
You do understand that the pin headers can be soldered to either side of the board right?
Yep, but if soldered to the bottom, I cannot mount in sme of the models. Matt
what about the BN 220 GPS I already own? Thanks so much.
Hey Tracy, yep that'll work too! Matt
to power up the FC, basically I will connect my plane ESC (with 5v UBEC) cable to PWM1 ? or do I need additional 5v UBEC regulator ?
Howdy Sajaks, I'll be covering the setup for the suggested board in a later episode, Matt
Hi Matt, just ordering my fc but banggood have run out of the GPS is there another type of gps that will work? Cheers mate
Omnibus F4 BetaFlight 3.2.0 OSD STM32F405RGT6 Flight Controller for FPV Racing Drone 30.5X30.5MM will this bourd for fixed wing ?
Howdy Ralph, see the other questions. The Matek F722 and wing PDB is the best choice right now. Matt
Hello Matt ...thank you for the reply I will check it them out I'm flying a ranger 2000 ...thinking I might have the wrong bourd for it
Matek Systems F722-STD STM32F722 Flight Controller Built-in BetaFlight OSD BMP280 Barometer Blackbox is this it ? Lol
Matt - I've been on BG's site and come accross an iNav F3 FC with an M8N GPS unit £40 what does yer think - I know you've gone to the trouble of packaging and appraising a system but - your thoughts - hell ! - probably lots of folk have other sugestions so maybe a bad idear to ask..joe
Howdy Joe, I'd buy the other parts as I've never used that GPS unit, not does the total price seem right either (as it can be bought cheaper separately) and you'll never use that GPS stand on a fixed wing model. Hope that helps Joe! Matt
I'll go along with yer on this ...joe
I have a Futaba FASST receiver what controller supports this type/
Howdy Tom, I have no idea. All these FC boards use SBUS and PPM so you'll need to find a receiver that sports one of these. Matt
Perfect instructions!
Happy days Dang :)
I prefer F3 boards. I fly FrSky also, and getting the telemetry back to an XSR or an X4RSB receiver is plug and play with an F3 board - with an F4 board there is some extra soldering and it isn't quite as simple (thought still not difficult). Also, on a fixed wing, you're really not using much of the F3 processor - on my S800 wing I'm only using less than 10% of the CPU capacity, so the F3 board is way more than capable - and $4 less to boot (it was on sale for a while at only $17) (www.banggood.com/Betaflight-F3-AIO-V1_1-Flight-Controller-with-Integrated-OSD-p-1086563.html?rmmds=search).
Morning Kurtis, yep I noticed that too. Very low CPU usage which is promising so the board won't cook itself when enclosed in a foam model. The board I'm suggesting is the one I've used & know works well, so sticking with what I know, Matt
will this work with v5 or v3 (with current sensor)
Hi Ashish, see the reply to your duplicate question, Matt
What if I want to run crossfire for my rx? I need rx and tx uart. What board would you recommend?
Hi Andrew, I have no idea I'm afraid as I don't use crossfire. Matt
Hi Matt,How can you tell if a F3-F4 Boards are original and not a clone version.Want to make sure i buy original ones.
Howdy Laurence, normally price and where you buy. If it's twice as expensive, then it's likely to be an original. Matt
I should've said, banggood have sold out of the GPS that you recommend through your video series is there another type lol
Howdy Vaug, frankly speaking, I'd not suggest a different one. Have a look on eBay instead. Those black puck ones have been reliable from the beginning for me. Hope that helps, Matt
Matthew Ogborne yeah that's fare enough, there is one on hobbyking I'm not %100 share it's the same
I fly a Flying Wing with Inav 1.7.0 on CC3D !
Howdy Boris, oh wow I didn't realise the CC3D boards were still going! Matt
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will this accept crsf protocol
Hi Jay, I have absolutely no idea, see the wiki here github.com/iNavFlight/inav/wiki Matt
Thank Matt for this serie! In my build (a quad 250 or bigger) I will like to try a F7 FC. Do you have any info / test about this F7s I find it here bit.ly/2zTXGVg Or perhaps is to early and I should go for F4? Thanks!
Howdy Salva, the F7 boards available, including those 3 are disappointing to be honest. Stick with a F4 board, for fixed wing, that'll be complete overkill with iNav, Matt
The Banggood are all clone chips and may not work with current and upcoming releases...its well known...buyer beware.