bukan masalah senioritas tapi manner, bahkan yoona yg dari gen 2 aja pas jadi MC selalu ngebow ke juniornya. di kita emg sepele tapi masalah kesopanan dikorea tuh penting, semoga jadi pembelajaran buat ive
komentar netizen ini kritik ya, bukan hate, biar kedepannya bisa lebih baik lagi. fans I've juga harus buka mata, jangan berlindung dari kata "masi rookie". Justru kalo masih rookie ya attitude nya utama in
@@lilmayyo_8951 ya ga heran juga mereka di hate, karna di Korea attitude itu nomor 1, apalagi di situ ada Jaemin yg udh berkarir 5 tahun di dunia hiburan. jdi terima aja, konsekuensi nya emang gini, semua manusia punya kesalahan, jdi aku harap mereka lebih ngutamain attitude dulu.
@@lunadelrey16 setujuuu disana tu attitude diperhatiin bgt, sunghoon enhypen aja waktu awal” mc dibilang kurang nunduk ngebow nya tp dia belajar dari kritikan netizen dan skrg jd lebih baik lagi, jd seharusnya fansnya ive si gabole marah kalo ada yg kritik
@@lunadelrey16 apalagi ada leeknow yang usianya lebih tua dr mereka semua, posisinya jaemin sama lee know tuh senior ga si? lee know juga lebih dulu debut dari izone
I don't undetstand why y'all don't congrats IVE and talking about having a good attitude? like you're not even doing respect here by trust any haters that says IVE isn't respectful here WHILE THEY BOWS ALL OF THEM and were too happy about their wins... they hugged minju!!!! they were way too focus on their happiness in this rude industry and IVE already having bad times about their weight scandal, and an idol were suicide for hard time 3 days ago and you're keep talking SHIT AGAIN!!! knows your manners. you just add more hates. there is already videos that prooves that IVE are still respectful. they can be happy of winning at their debut what is the pB? I mean the mcs will not watch the comments of idoles winning lol, and what about IVE? you're not fan of them and yet you're bashing them harshly, when they are happy of winning. yes if I think about ITZY they bows too much that's why you're saying IVE don't, but damn we don't care!! they didn't insult the mcs of said smth bad. MOREOVER!!!! LIZ didn't cut the words of the left MC, the MC DID (without on purpose) bcs normally when a gp is winning, members can talking right? LIZ just wanted to says words thksful to the staff and fans bcs wonyoung already finished to talk so why are u mad to a gp that wins a lot? it's like the first time you're watching a music show. and also, you're not korean!!!! it's not your culture BASICALLY!! so don't talk about smth you're not able to explain and it's not even nor your origin or culture. so go to sleep and be educate yourself!!!!
Ga peduli sih se populer apa mereka sekarang, tapi attittude juga harus tetep di jaga Apalagi mereka masih rookie kyk gini Semoga kedepan nya Ive jdi lebih baik lagi
I think as an idol what is needed is not only good visuals, good vocals and dances, as well as a cool rap. But they also have to have "GOOD MANNERS". I agree that all IVE members deserve to debut because they all have so many talents (good vocal quality, cool rap, beautiful dance and beautiful visuals) but look how they attitude?? Don't they have good manners? After all, NCT's Jaemin & SKZ's Lee Know are seniors from IVE. Isn't it customary in that country to bow their heads to each other (especially to those who are older/senior). * 1:56 But look at SKZ's Lee Know & NCT's Jaemin (as seniors) they unhesitatingly bowed their heads first as they walked off the stage. * 2:05 In fact, the IVE members (Rei, Gaeul, and Leeseo) only bowed their heads to MC Minju and the rest, none of the IVE members bowed their heads to Jaemin & Lee Know. * 0:56 Wonyoung (first) & Liz (second) delivered their victory speech even before MC Jaemin invited him (look at Jaemin's smiling + surprised expression)
I don't care how talented or how famous they are . They need TO BOW to the hosts not just Minju . There's no way all of the members doesn't have common sense to bow to their sunbaenim . Wonyoung and Yujin should know because they are experienced . How come they can be so rude to their sunbaenim ? Bad attitude !
@@chronoshift1423 Ive is slowly gaining popularity and yes I agree Liz is very introverted. I feel sorry for Ive but I know they'll change. But there's no need to call them names. Star syndrome? I've never heard of this word until random kpoppies started to use it and belittle Ive.
@@dontspeakdonttalk koreans do care about this. I know you can't read korean language in the comment section that's why you think korean doesn't care about this .
But to be honest, when I watched this for the first time, I didn't see anything wrong bcs I was more focused on the interactions between Minju and Yujin. But after watching it twice, I still don't think they intentionally wanted to disrespect the MCs. They just didn't see that the MC was going to say something. As you can see, wonyoung spoke after minju and she didn't realize that jaemin was about to say something.
@@yunjin910 Maybe it's time for you to read some articles and reach on their forums because literally, Respectfulness is one of the very important cultures in Korea then they did not give a single fck about this?
And Wonyoung started speaking before the MC asked her to. She isn't doing this for the first time that it can just be excused. She is experienced. She has not only been on encore stages several times but also she has been a host of award shows and events.
the only issue here was the bowing but wonyoung did not do anything wrong when making her speech. are u stupid?? she knows when to speak which is if the group wins and after the mc hands them the award then they can talk right away with no initiation from the mc. u’re just looking for an excuse to give her extra hate so stop. if u don’t know how it works dont talk
@@hnyuq4049 Seems like you don't know how it works. Watch the video carefully the MC was about to ask her to speak but she did not wait and started speaking herself.
@@hnyuq4049 Noone's hating her. People are just criticizing her for being disrespectful. The MCs are also k-pop idols. Remember that. Even they have fans. They were disrespected. If you can't handle your favourite idols being criticised then you should get off the internet.
It's funny to see those boy group stan talking about manners of the girls... but when their boy being rude or impolite they found many excuses like " but he was tired 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺"
Some can't still move on this instance. This was already settled on their January 08 2022 Mucore. It's purely and simply this, perhaps some members get too excited to express their gratitude towards their fans ahead of their turn to utter & they didn't see and failed to perceive to bow. Again, this was already settled on their January 08 2022 Mucore.
Yall are weird, the girls didn't even saw the others bowing to them, if they saw them bowing but didn't bow back i would understand the issue but they didn't
@@bixbiebb1812 fucking read omfg, they didn't notice them bowing, i would understand people criticising them if they saw them and didn't bow back but they didn't saw them bowed
Untuk Dive jgn berlindung di balik kata *masi rookie* terus ya karena itu masi rookie kek udh sunbae kek kalo masalah attitude knetz emg ga pandang bulu ya.. lg pula yg nyela jaemin ngomong kan wony.. dia udh pernah debut jg + jd mc mushow jg. Jgn sampe deh yg ngidolain dia ngerasain apa yg dirasain nanadongie sekarang
스트레이 키즈 팬인, 스테이 입니다. 일단 아이브에게 전혀 악 감정은 없었고, 매우 성장할 아이돌이라고 생각합니다. 노래도 정말 좋고요, 저희 부모님도 좋아하실 정도로 좋은 아이돌이라고 생각합니다. 하지만 이건 단순 선배 후배 관계 없이, 아이돌 사이에 인사는 매우 중요한 기본 예의라고 생각합니다. 리노와 재민씨 입장에서 인사 무시까이면 짜증날 것 같네요.
1. Jaemin pas ngomong dipotong, padahal yg motong itu Mc jg di stasiun tv sebelah 2. Lee know bow 2 kali, Jaemin 1 kali duluan tapi nggak dibalas sama sekali. Mana ada satu member yg nengok tapi tetep aja nggak digubris. 3. Minju kalau nggak nyolek duluan tuh 2 ex member izone nggak bakal balik badan. Ini bukan senioritas ya tapi Basic Manner as an Idol. Alasan nervous, semua idol jg nervous tapi nggak lupa sama attitudenya. Fansnya juga jangan sok nge gas ngelawan balik padahal udah jelas idolnya salah.
idol lain jg pada seneng dapat win, tapi 'nge-bow' tetap yg pertama ya sis👍🏻 edit: bukan mau ngehate, cuma semoga ini bisa dijadiin pelajaran. seharusnya mereka lebih tanggap ngelihat MC-nya masih ada apa engga. kalau masih ada ngebow dulu, baru deh nyanyi. sambil lagunya diputer jg bisa kok mereka ngebow
5:00 they bowed to music core staffs and employees so dont conclude their attitude based on the start of their encore they didnt just look back on those mcs because the song is starting already. freak stop making empty issue knetz in the comment section dont even care about it
@@winter-od6hz ??? look at the comment section of this video and you will only see knetz congratulating them.. and no it started with a filipino czennie who uploaded a cut of this video without even uploading the part where they bowed to the staffs at the end. and this bowing issue is only on tiktok and international stans this isn't even on kforums like pann and theqoo🤨
Menurutku disini mereka emang salah dr mulai gak saling bow kpd sunbae/idol lain (MCs disini) smpe motong pas jaemin mau ngomong. harusnya wony sm yujin yg udah prnh jd MC tau jg kpn saatnya dia bisa ngasih speech. aku lihat yg lain gada yg ngasih bow kecuali gaeul sm leeseo
Iya yg uda pernah debut masa ga tau, biasanya kan MC yg persilahkan ngmg, ni bru diumumin uda ribut, dan mslh ngebow, sekelas twice yg uda 6 tahun debut aja msi ngebow ke MC pas mereka mau turun
@@aulia5806 banyak, coba liat tampilan yang "komentar terbaru" ada beberapa yang ngeritik/hate (dikit), terus namanya juga korea gitu jadi kayaknya itu emang knetz beneran
It feels so weird seeing a rookie group not showing any respect to their seniors lmao just because Wonyoung and Yujin have debuted with IZ*ONE before doesn't give them a free pass to feel superior towards any artists. In fact, even if it's a senior group or not, they must still show respect through a simple bow. These girls must have never learned any manners from their training days... Plus not to mention the favoritism towards the two members in the group lmao... if they continue being like this, they wouldn't last long in the Industry.
You don’t see any interaction in the backstage and yet you judge people based on short clips. Stupid people is everywhere i see. You just jelly. Poor you
bukan nya lebay ya. tapi attitude itu emang penting banget. iya mungkin disini jaemin cuma paling poll mbatin, lah takutnya dia kelepasan gini lagi ke orang yang suka nyebar", kan bakal lebih hdh
Bukannya gila hormat yaa, tp gmnapun d Korea tuh yg namanya senior yah harus dkasih bow . Apalagi Jaemin dah 6 tahun lebih dulu debut dbanding ive. Salut sih gue sama attitude nya artis SM, mereka bakal tetap ngebow meskipun itu idol junior sekalipun .
I don't undetstand why y'all don't congrats IVE and talking about having a good attitude? like you're not even doing respect here by trust any haters that says IVE isn't respectful here WHILE THEY BOWS ALL OF THEM and were too happy about their wins... they hugged minju!!!! they were way too focus on their happiness in this rude industry and IVE already having bad times about their weight scandal, and an idol were suicide for hard time 3 days ago and you're keep talking SHIT AGAIN!!! knows your manners. you just add more hates. there is already videos that prooves that IVE are still respectful. they can be happy of winning at their debut what is the pB? I mean the mcs will not watch the comments of idoles winning lol, and what about IVE? you're not fan of them and yet you're bashing them harshly, when they are happy of winning. yes if I think about ITZY they bows too much that's why you're saying IVE don't, but damn we don't care!! they didn't insult the mcs of said smth bad. MOREOVER!!!! LIZ didn't cut the words of the left MC, the MC DID (without on purpose) bcs normally when a gp is winning, members can talking right? LIZ just wanted to says words thksful to the staff and fans bcs wonyoung already finished to talk so why are u mad to a gp that wins a lot? it's like the first time you're watching a music show. and also, you're not korean!!!! it's not your culture BASICALLY!! so don't talk about smth you're not able to explain and it's not even nor your origin or culture. so go to sleep and be educate yourself!!!!
못봤다고 쉴드쳐주지 마세요 장원영은 뮤뱅부터도 정우가 먼저 인사했는데도 소품정리한다고 인사도 안했고 이번에는 할줄 알았는데 선배인 리노랑 재민이가 먼저 인사했는데도 어째 멤버중에 인사를 하는 멤버가 없는걸까요?? 이걸 못본게 아니라 연예계에서는 자기가 갓데뷔한 신인이면 선배님들한테 깍듯이 인사해야하는건 예의아닌가요 장원영이랑 안유진은 둘다 음방mc니까 알텐데 왜 다들 그러는걸까
@@dynasohee Jaemin belum bersuara, gak bisa bilang itu 'motong'. Beberapa mushow pas udh megang trophy emang speech kok Gak ngebow itu karena lupa, mereka seneng, itu menang terakhir mereka di era ini. Mereka baru inget ngebow pas liat minju, lupa itu manusiawi. Mereka bukan satu satunya idol yang lupa ngebow
The comments are so funny , They won the awards , gave them a break ...You guys just want hate on them , do they need to be allowed to thank their fans ?
DISRESPECTUL? yall see 3 seconds of a video and proudly say that theyre being disrepstcul? Has it never occurred to you that they just forgot to turn back and bow to them? that they werent paying attention or just got caught up with the fact that they had jsut won 1st place? I think its sooo unfair to judge these people when all we see its just portions of their life. Now really, whats the difference between you and them? arent they human too? have you never forgotten to do something you were supposed to do? the difference is that you werent judged for it! yall expcet these ppl to be perfect when you are also jsut like them.....I just wish yall were as keen on calling out what the people around you do wrong as you are with these artists! I do think they coulve done better, but so what theyre humans just like ME....
Yes and, Some can't still move on, in this instance. This was already settled on their January 08 2022 Mucore. It's purely and simply this, perhaps some members get too excited to express their gratitude towards their fans ahead of their turn to utter & they didn't see and failed to perceive to bow. Again, this was already settled on their January 08 2022 Mucore.
I know you guys are deserved to debut because you guys have so many talent, but good manners is also important. especially, as far as I know (but cmiiw) in the Korean bowing to the seniors is a culture..
@@jennie5912 They're like their faves, they love to pretend to be of other cultures just like my man jaehyun said the n word and never apologized and the list goes on
In this video they don't respect MCs who are more senior than them in the industry 0:56 Jaemin should've asked them to give a speech first, but Wonyoung speak right away 1:55 they don't even look at the MCs when the MCs are going down the stage, not one of them bowing to the MCs (Jaemin and Lee Know). They are bowing to Minju after she came first to meet Yujin and Wonyoung
So sad, looking rookie with no respect. Actually I like their song before, but after this controversy I think I can't like them as big as before or even worse than that
IKR like i know Wony is an MC too so she knows how it work but Wony should not straight speech right aways like PLEASEE JINJJA you need to respect someone who is senior and same with you (MC) I'm a DIVE and i admit that they're rude tho 😔
It's such a big surprise for me. I don't think that Starship will debut a group without teaching them that. I think even though the company doesn't do that, idols still have to learn by themselves since the senior-junior relationship is a must-have in Korea. I really like "Eleven", but after this encore i feel disappointed about IVE. I hope they can learn from their mistakes and be respectful to other artirts in the future.
Ohiya, liat respon fansnya di twitter baru tau gue kalau fansnya anti kritik kayak gini. Gimana idolnya mau tau kesalahannya kalau fansnya aja me-normalize bad attitude? Mana mereka yg ngegas lg dan sombong banget saat idolnya dikritik. "Senioritas banget", "woman support woman", "kok dibawa ribet", bawa" idol lain sebagai tameng. Kalian bisa support idolkalian dengan nerima fakta bahwa idol kalian emang salah disini
Maaf, tapi menurut gue kalian too much deh. Banyak kok beberapa idol yang rookie ga ngebow ke sunbaenya karena ga liat atau apa. Di sini wony juga keliatan gugup pas mau speech, mungkin dia ga sadar kalo dia udh ngecut dialognya jaemin. Gue bukan fans ive, gue bahkan ga tau nama fansclub mereka. Tapi gue rasa kalian too much, knetz aja pada ga ada yang mempermasalahin atittude ive, ini indonesian fans especially indonesian nctzen pada koar" gara gara jaemin dicut dialognya, yang padahal itu bisa aja wonyoung ga sengaja.
@@29rifaniahafidzahanum41 knetz ga permslahin gmna org jls2 knetz dluan yg nydar klo mereka ga ngebow, btw gw krg tau ttg idol rookie lain yg ga ngebow bisa kirim link encore mereka?? jgn cmn omong doang, klopun ga ngebow atleast ad stu yg nydar ini gk sm sekali, bhkan jelas bgt dsini Liz udh noleh dan ngeliat lee know ngebow 2kali
@@josephinesheviya6982 oh ya? Knetz juga ikut mempermasalahin? Gue ga liat bahkan 2 3 knetz komen di comsect tentang atittude mereka. Kalo lo mau link idol yang ga ngebow balik padahal mereka lebih muda dari idol yang ngebow gue bisa kasih.
@@josephinesheviya6982 knetz yang mana?? Cuma gegara komennya bakor padahal nama displaynya gak korea ckck crosscheck lagi lain kali. Ngeaccused salah tapi pake bawa knetz yaaa lucu aja sih istan nimbrungin sambil pake star syndrome
Ya emang salah, tapi ga perlu sampe ngehate + body shaming juga. Liat aja komen2nya, aji mumpung buat ngehate. Kan kocak, berasa idolnya ga pernah buat salah aja. Kalo dibales hate lagi langsung play victim. Template banget
I really agree! JYP's group is not the best in terms of vocals, dance, rap or visuals, but there's no doubt about the "attitude"! jyp's group is indeed the best in behaving politely to both seniors and juniors :)
Gue bukan nctzen maupun dive. Disini gua cuma fandom lain yang mau menilai kenapa sih para ribut2 di tl twitter. Oh ternyata ini, ya pantes aja langsung di kritik. 1. Wonyoung ini mc juga, tapi kenapa ga tau tata krama dan langsung ngasih speech padahal belum dipersilahkan. Btw kelihatan banget muka keselnya jaemin. 2. Mereka ga ngebow ke senior. Kek wtf bro ini lu di korea yang kental dengan manner nya. 2 dari 6 member juga udah pernah debut, apa masih ga paham dengan tata krama gini? Cuma nge-bow bentar apa susahnya?
Semua orang berhak berpendapat. Kita juga ngga bisa normalize tindakan ive, setidaknya jika bukan sebagai senior, hargai mereka sebagai MC. Moga kedepannya ini bisa diperbaiki. Btw congrats untuk win nya, ive.
come on guys, jaemin debuted 5 years earlier, lee know 4, and even if minju is your friend, at least respect them. the hierarchy of respect for elders/seniors should be taught to these girls.
@@tj.8924 right… all them kboos are like "no need to be koreans to know matters, they should respect their sunbaes!!😠" boy if you don’t sthu knetz don’t care😭
you weirdos coming for the group when jaemin was late in reading his part as mc it was literally his first day not their fault he didn’t know how to time himself 😭 y’all are really hating on a rookie group so fast, the only real part where they messed up was not bowing but even then y’all act like they did it maliciously
Damn like idols like fans.... Just because they were disrespectful, your shifting the blame to Jaemin? Even if he was late which he was not, wonyoung should have waited she isn't in the industry this long just to be this unprofessional. What about bowing?
@@spicybiryani2617 well if you can see, 0:52 wonyoung looked at mc before she speak. Cause there are some space of time so she may think it's time to speak. And we don't know either that usually who's not mc can see script or not. But about bowing i don't know either. If u put your biased down maybe you can see it cleary.
아무리 1위를 하고 좋다고 해도 장원영이나 안유진은 아이즈원 때 이미 경험해 봤을 텐데 모르는 것도 아니고 걔다가 본인들 엠씨인데 모른다는 게 말이 됨?ㅋㅋㅋㅋ사회생활에서 인사를 얼마나 중요시하는데 또 아직 엠씨 멘트 끝나지도 않았는데 소감을 벌써 얘기하고 있고 제발 본인보다 윗사람이던 아랫사람이던 예의를 좀 갖추길 바람
@@yunjin910 oh no girl even if the person takes a minute to talk you have to be respectful enough and talk until they tell you, she has been in the industry for years just like jaemin but jaemin didn't interrupt her even though she If he did. You see the difference? There are no excuses
@@yunjin910 are you kidding me... You can literally see he is already about to talk then Wonyoung suddenly gives speech and not wait for Jaemin to talk first, Wonyoung is literally an MC herself too
It’s actually sad, how many people are making new accounts, pretending to be korean and hating on IVE, just to make it seem like Knetz is hating on IVE. I can speak and read korean and the amount of fake comments here is just so laughable 🤣
instantly remembered when dreamies said their manager always reminded & told them to be "Always be grateful, Always be humble, greet others well" even the boys always repeated it and it's already like a chant which embedded in their brains SM taught their artist well 👍
[예능연구소 4K] NCT 127 1위 직캠 'Favorite (Vampire)' (NCT 127 No.1 Encore FanCam) @Show!MusicCore 211106 Did you see this encore? almost everyone except last guy that only bow to mc but others is no looking at mc and bow too? isn't it the same with IVE? why you guys have different standard when it comes to your favorite group?
@@solo-yl8uc well well well would you at that, now why aren’t y’all talking about their manners? Isn’t this disrespectful? Or is it only when it happens to ur little oppas?
I don't undetstand why y'all don't congrats IVE and talking about having a good attitude? like you're not even doing respect here by trust any haters that says IVE isn't respectful here WHILE THEY BOWS ALL OF THEM and were too happy about their wins... they hugged minju!!!! they were way too focus on their happiness in this rude industry and IVE already having bad times about their weight scandal, and an idol were suicide for hard time 3 days ago and you're keep talking SHIT AGAIN!!! knows your manners. you just add more hates. there is already videos that prooves that IVE are still respectful. they can be happy of winning at their debut what is the pB? I mean the mcs will not watch the comments of idoles winning lol, and what about IVE? you're not fan of them and yet you're bashing them harshly, when they are happy of winning. yes if I think about ITZY they bows too much that's why you're saying IVE don't, but damn we don't care!! they didn't insult the mcs of said smth bad. MOREOVER!!!! LIZ didn't cut the words of the left MC, the MC DID (without on purpose) bcs normally when a gp is winning, members can talking right? LIZ just wanted to says words thksful to the staff and fans bcs wonyoung already finished to talk so why are u mad to a gp that wins a lot? it's like the first time you're watching a music show. and also, you're not korean!!!! it's not your culture BASICALLY!! so don't talk about smth you're not able to explain and it's not even nor your origin or culture. so go to sleep and be educate yourself!!!!
I don't undetstand why y'all don't congrats IVE and talking about having a good attitude? like you're not even doing respect here by trust any haters that says IVE isn't respectful here WHILE THEY BOWS ALL OF THEM and were too happy about their wins... they hugged minju!!!! they were way too focus on their happiness in this rude industry and IVE already having bad times about their weight scandal, and an idol were suicide for hard time 3 days ago and you're keep talking SHIT AGAIN!!! knows your manners. you just add more hates. there is already videos that prooves that IVE are still respectful. they can be happy of winning at their debut what is the pB? I mean the mcs will not watch the comments of idoles winning lol, and what about IVE? you're not fan of them and yet you're bashing them harshly, when they are happy of winning. yes if I think about ITZY they bows too much that's why you're saying IVE don't, but damn we don't care!! they didn't insult the mcs of said smth bad. MOREOVER!!!! LIZ didn't cut the words of the left MC, the MC DID (without on purpose) bcs normally when a gp is winning, members can talking right? LIZ just wanted to says words thksful to the staff and fans bcs wonyoung already finished to talk so why are u mad to a gp that wins a lot? it's like the first time you're watching a music show. and also, you're not korean!!!! it's not your culture BASICALLY!! so don't talk about smth you're not able to explain and it's not even nor your origin or culture. so go to sleep and be educate yourself!!!!
Respect banget sama jaemin, si anak baik sampe nggak ngomong gara-gara di potong. Dan di situlah kita bisa menilai bahwa jaemin sopan banget. Trus, si lee know juga gitu nggak motong yang lagi bicara. Khusus buat dive, kita nctzen dan stay bukan gila hormat. Kita cuman mau idol respect sesama, mau junior atau senior. Manner itu penting, kita juga nggak bilang kalo idol kita nggak pernah buat kesalahan. Minta maaf dengan klarifikasi itu nggak bikin malu lok, malahan bagus banget buat introspeksi diri buat jadi lebih baik lagi. Belajar lagi yah, respect buat all fandom💚🖤
Setuju, dan memang benar kesopanan itu ke semua org tanpa mandang senior junior dan bru tahu tingkat kesopanan di korea sana sgt kuat wajar knetz lgsng group rookie trsbt dan baru tahu jga tunduk sprt kek Jaemin itu hal wajar mau ke senior kek or ke junior itu bkn hal aneh lg dan Dive di Twitter serang Nctzen aduhh. Ya smga IVE bsa bljr byk lagi yaa dan smga ini mnjd pembelajaran tuk nnti idol bru dan fans tuk tau attitude di negara korea kek gmna.
waduh iya siap si yang paling ngerti kultur korea sampe mau edukasi orang korea aslinya wkekekekw anjing kocak banget. lebay lu semua, apa gak malu lu cewek nyerang cewek apalagi mereka minors semua? jaemin leeknow minju bow juga ragu karena tau ive masih kesenengan jadi mereka juga main nyelonong aja wkekewk. gausah lebay lu bg stans, geli. sampe bilang salut2 segala. stop acting like you know everything.
they so badly want to convince everyone that the koreans hate ive when in fact the knetz themselves are making fun of them for trying so hard to be offended about a culture that’s not even theirs 😭 are y’all not embarrassed for yourselves?
Cantik, suara bagus, berbakat, stage presence bagus.. Udah lengkap bgt tu. Alangkah lebih baik kalo attitudenya juga bagus dan sopan.. Jangan jadikan umur sebagai alasan, banyak idol yg debut umurnya muda juga tp pada sopan.. Semangat ive, masih panjang waktunya buat selalu memperbaiki diri..
@@dlanooo6715 mereka motong omongannya jaemin, terus mereka juga gak ngebow ke mc, pdhl disitu mc nya dah ngebow tapi gak dibales. mc nya juga udah senior, jadi gak sopan kalo gak bales bow nya.. no hate ya, kritik biar Ive bisa belajar dari kesalahan
@@yourfuture5307 she's been on that show many times right, so she must have an idea how the MC's scripts flow. Anyway it's obvious she got too excited and just say whatever she wanted to say
안유진이랑 장원영은 자기들도 음방 엠씨라 끝날 때 엠씨들이랑 인사하는 거 알 텐데 앞에만 쳐다보고 있네 신인이 데뷔하자마자 1위 행진이라 들뜬 건지 모르겠는데 기본 예절을 갖춰야 한다 생각함... 엠씨들이 먼저 인사 안 했더라도 자기들이 고개 돌려서 인사하는 자세를 보였어야 함... 아이브 호감이었는데 이거 보고 엥? 했음 ㅠ 다음부터는 인사 잘 하고 다녔으면 좋겠다
Well yeah I agree with that but mistakes happen and people should move on today renjun did the same mistakes and why are people's reaction different huh? Not saying he deserves hate but for doing the same thing she got called names in tiktok and was harrased in Instagram
Dah kena star syndrome sih, padahal masih rookie tapi GK Ng bow Sedangkan senior" yg udh terkenal juga masih Ng bow kok Tapi kedepannya bisa intropeksi diri aja sih
MASA SAMPE MINJU YANG MANGGIL DAN BARU NOLEH KE BELAKANG KAN KEBANGETAN?? DAN HOW TF MEREKA GAK NGEBOW KE MC??? ngebow itu basic manner mau ke sunbae atau gak, ini udah jelas2 ketiga mc itu senior wak??
y'all are so sensitive, they are YOUNG, yes they did something wrong but the girls can learn from this. omg they forgot to bow the mcs are gonna die😭😭😭
@@chaengsuki9105 If the country is going to crucify these underage girls for making a mistake, then I think the country is wrong, it was a mistake and now they will learn from this. That's it.
@@devilcente ah no i agree with you 100%, they should be held accountable but not to this extent since the girls already get so much hate (especially wonyoung). I just hope this was a one time thing because of their excitement.
@@chaengsuki9105 to what degree? Did it harm someone no yes it is disrespectful but it's not like it's gonna kill you cause after this they are probably going to either forget about this or just not care and the youngest member as someone told me was like what 14-15 and y'all h8 on her just cause she didn't bow lol y'all are OVERLY sensitive this si way the Kpop community is so toxic
@@needless974 since i'm an international kpop fan i cannot really speak on behalf of knetz, but i do know and am aware that bowing to seniors (both as a group and as individual persons) is an act of respect and has to be done. It didn't physically huurt anybody, but i can understand why they got the backlash that they did and why knetz would want to apologize, especially caus two of the members have already debuted and know how it works. I wasn't hating on them, I was just saying why they were getting backlash for this at the time it happened.
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bukan masalah senioritas tapi manner, bahkan yoona yg dari gen 2 aja pas jadi MC selalu ngebow ke juniornya. di kita emg sepele tapi masalah kesopanan dikorea tuh penting, semoga jadi pembelajaran buat ive
Bener bgt ,disini mereka emg ngebow tapi cuma sama minju itu juga diakhir doang ,sedangkan pas jaemin sama Lee know lewat mereka kaya pura" galiat 😭
hooh yg jadi masalah disini kenapa mereka ga balik badan gtu kan ga mungkin mc lewat depan, yang rambut blonde udh liat lee know ngebow tapi diem aja
Apalagi Tiffany SNSD pasti bownya sampai 90⁰
member bigbang jg selalu bow even ke juniornya wkwkwkw
UP
komentar netizen ini kritik ya, bukan hate, biar kedepannya bisa lebih baik lagi. fans I've juga harus buka mata, jangan berlindung dari kata "masi rookie". Justru kalo masih rookie ya attitude nya utama in
totally agree, apalagi yujin dan wonyoung yang sebelumnya udah pernah debut seharusnya mereka jauh lebih tau.
@@lilmayyo_8951 ya ga heran juga mereka di hate, karna di Korea attitude itu nomor 1, apalagi di situ ada Jaemin yg udh berkarir 5 tahun di dunia hiburan. jdi terima aja, konsekuensi nya emang gini, semua manusia punya kesalahan, jdi aku harap mereka lebih ngutamain attitude dulu.
𝘞𝘰𝘯𝘺𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘨 𝘥𝘢𝘯 𝘺𝘶𝘫𝘪𝘯 𝘫𝘢𝘥𝘪 𝘔𝘊 𝘮𝘶𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘸 𝘴𝘦𝘣𝘦𝘭𝘢𝘩, 𝘴𝘦𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘶𝘴𝘯𝘺𝘢 𝘭𝘦𝘣𝘪𝘩 𝘱𝘢𝘩𝘢𝘮 𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘨𝘢𝘯 𝘣𝘦𝘨𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘢𝘯, 𝘣𝘶𝘬𝘢𝘯 𝘩𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘺𝘢 𝘵𝘱 𝘬𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘬𝘢𝘯 𝘮𝘦𝘮𝘣𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘶𝘯
@@lunadelrey16 setujuuu disana tu attitude diperhatiin bgt, sunghoon enhypen aja waktu awal” mc dibilang kurang nunduk ngebow nya tp dia belajar dari kritikan netizen dan skrg jd lebih baik lagi, jd seharusnya fansnya ive si gabole marah kalo ada yg kritik
@@lunadelrey16 apalagi ada leeknow yang usianya lebih tua dr mereka semua, posisinya jaemin sama lee know tuh senior ga si? lee know juga lebih dulu debut dari izone
ekspresi jaemin menggambarkan situasi🙂
lee know minju sampek ketawa gegara ga jadi ngomong🥲
Parah si, mc blm selesai speech mana ga bow jga.
Iyaaa ih , pdhl mereka senior loh . Kalaupun g senior , y ttp harus sopan
gatega liat lino sm nana 😭
Sangat disayangkan sih:(( padahal wonyoung juga mc mushow, harusnya tau, ga yg langsung nyerobot gitu🥲
TAUUU KSELL BNRRR JD MAU STAN RAGUU, GA ADA HORMAT HORMAT NYA BGT
Lee know, Jeamin and Minju did so well, I love their professionalism and being respectful!! Yall did so well, fighting!!!
*Jaemin
I don't undetstand why y'all don't congrats IVE and talking about having a good attitude? like you're not even doing respect here by trust any haters that says IVE isn't respectful here WHILE THEY BOWS ALL OF THEM and were too happy about their wins... they hugged minju!!!! they were way too focus on their happiness in this rude industry and IVE already having bad times about their weight scandal, and an idol were suicide for hard time 3 days ago and you're keep talking SHIT AGAIN!!! knows your manners. you just add more hates. there is already videos that prooves that IVE are still respectful. they can be happy of winning at their debut what is the pB? I mean the mcs will not watch the comments of idoles winning lol, and what about IVE? you're not fan of them and yet you're bashing them harshly, when they are happy of winning. yes if I think about ITZY they bows too much that's why you're saying IVE don't, but damn we don't care!! they didn't insult the mcs of said smth bad. MOREOVER!!!! LIZ didn't cut the words of the left MC, the MC DID (without on purpose) bcs normally when a gp is winning, members can talking right? LIZ just wanted to says words thksful to the staff and fans bcs wonyoung already finished to talk so why are u mad to a gp that wins a lot? it's like the first time you're watching a music show. and also, you're not korean!!!! it's not your culture BASICALLY!! so don't talk about smth you're not able to explain and it's not even nor your origin or culture. so go to sleep and be educate yourself!!!!
@@Cam-dh8wrGirl calm down 😂 They literally never said anything about IVE 😂😂😂
Jaemin u did well as special MC today 💚💚
Really well
even though he is not appreciated LOL
@@chiziayufebian7228 ??
💚💚💚
We love you Nana 💚💚
Ga peduli sih se populer apa mereka sekarang, tapi attittude juga harus tetep di jaga
Apalagi mereka masih rookie kyk gini
Semoga kedepan nya Ive jdi lebih baik lagi
Setuju bgt
setuju
ini, gua dive tp gua setuju, disini attitude mereka kurang bagus, semoga kedepan nya jd lebih baik deh 😄
Iya kita berdoa aja dan jangan hujat ya nanti, malah jadi fan war 😭
bener 👍
I think as an idol what is needed is not only good visuals, good vocals and dances, as well as a cool rap. But they also have to have "GOOD MANNERS". I agree that all IVE members deserve to debut because they all have so many talents (good vocal quality, cool rap, beautiful dance and beautiful visuals) but look how they attitude?? Don't they have good manners?
After all, NCT's Jaemin & SKZ's Lee Know are seniors from IVE. Isn't it customary in that country to bow their heads to each other (especially to those who are older/senior).
* 1:56 But look at SKZ's Lee Know & NCT's Jaemin (as seniors) they unhesitatingly bowed their heads first as they walked off the stage.
* 2:05 In fact, the IVE members (Rei, Gaeul, and Leeseo) only bowed their heads to MC Minju and the rest, none of the IVE members bowed their heads to Jaemin & Lee Know.
* 0:56 Wonyoung (first) & Liz (second) delivered their victory speech even before MC Jaemin invited him (look at Jaemin's smiling + surprised expression)
bruhhhh they deadass didn’t give a fuck about the mcs 😐
pfftt whats wrong with you?
@@yoboi1813 no, it's what's wrong with you.
@@yoboi1813 then, what's wrong with you? LOL
@@nailacarissa5732 ok naila carissa xi mipa 7
와...해외팬들이 이렇게 화난거 처음본다
다들 예의바르지 않으니까 그렇지? 그래서 화가 난 거야... Lol😂
Should be
한국 사람 어때요 한국 미인 기준에 대해 어떻게 생각하세요? 메모타아아아
@@syedayaqootfatima7972 no should be not, because it’s not your culture.
@@samiirraa yes,if the Korean don’t have problem with it we shouldn’t have to right? Lol
I don't care how talented or how famous they are . They need TO BOW to the hosts not just Minju . There's no way all of the members doesn't have common sense to bow to their sunbaenim . Wonyoung and Yujin should know because they are experienced . How come they can be so rude to their sunbaenim ? Bad attitude !
popularity doesn't determine a good brand attitude
@@nomnom8299 LIZ is an extremely shy person, she just follow their group. They're wrong but it's not starsyndrom, the are not that popular yet
@@chronoshift1423 Ive is slowly gaining popularity and yes I agree Liz is very introverted. I feel sorry for Ive but I know they'll change. But there's no need to call them names. Star syndrome? I've never heard of this word until random kpoppies started to use it and belittle Ive.
quick are you korean? why do they not care but you guys do when it’s not even your culture?
@@dontspeakdonttalk koreans do care about this. I know you can't read korean language in the comment section that's why you think korean doesn't care about this .
They feels like they are a super superstar af
lol true af
lmao
They are a superstar lmao
@@yoboi1813 superstar with no attitude🤮😂
Starsyndrome?
idol bukan hanya vocal, dance, rap aja yg bagus tapi attitude juga hrs bagus dong apa lagi mereka rookie, semoga kedepannya lebih baik lagii ive
nct 최근 음악중심 앵콜 보고 와라 애네도 인사안하는데 동남아인들 뭐하는거임?
There are a lot of videos where nct doesn't even say hello. Look at the recent music center encore video.
But to be honest, when I watched this for the first time, I didn't see anything wrong bcs I was more focused on the interactions between Minju and Yujin. But after watching it twice, I still don't think they intentionally wanted to disrespect the MCs. They just didn't see that the MC was going to say something. As you can see, wonyoung spoke after minju and she didn't realize that jaemin was about to say something.
@@poppop-uy1pl bring others, haha typical ive toxic stand
@@poppop-uy1pl lol😒
Attitude is number ONE no matter how talented and beautiful you are...🙃
Especially knetz really take it serious bout seniority
동의합니다
@@nykinabilah167 they did not give a single fuck about this stop reaching
Yooo betul
@@yunjin910 Maybe it's time for you to read some articles and reach on their forums because literally, Respectfulness is one of the very important cultures in Korea then they did not give a single fck about this?
Aku harap kedepannya ive memiliki manners yang lebih baik dan sopan.
sesungguhnya kesopanan adalah yang terpenting bestie.
Leeknow is so polite and respectful no matter ppl bow back to him or not he still does it
Heyy i love you're comment♡
@@sitirahmah8933 ty! I'm just saying what's true ☺️
True ...He didn't care even if they did ..he did his part
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Lee Know pro idol 💙
And Wonyoung started speaking before the MC asked her to. She isn't doing this for the first time that it can just be excused. She is experienced. She has not only been on encore stages several times but also she has been a host of award shows and events.
Finally someone smart
Yess true.
the only issue here was the bowing but wonyoung did not do anything wrong when making her speech. are u stupid?? she knows when to speak which is if the group wins and after the mc hands them the award then they can talk right away with no initiation from the mc. u’re just looking for an excuse to give her extra hate so stop. if u don’t know how it works dont talk
@@hnyuq4049 Seems like you don't know how it works. Watch the video carefully the MC was about to ask her to speak but she did not wait and started speaking herself.
@@hnyuq4049 Noone's hating her. People are just criticizing her for being disrespectful. The MCs are also k-pop idols. Remember that. Even they have fans. They were disrespected. If you can't handle your favourite idols being criticised then you should get off the internet.
JAEMIN, MINJU, LEE KNOW Y'ALL DID SO WELL! FIGHTING!!
this video not about them move on
@@aeriiel ) so what? let them say what they want.
@@mr.gillette3173 but thats annoying
@@aeriiel em, dat’s whot I see, the girls is disrespectful to senior so the MCs’ fans get mad about this and ignore the girls as well
@@aeriiel childish af 🙄
Poor Jaemin :(
Pertama kalinya jadi MC spesial malah dapat perlakuan kaya gini 🥺
Rightt :((
benerrrr bgt kesell
Iya kasian bgt :(
Nana baru mau ngomong itu, eh tanpa aba2 udah speech duluan wkwk
Nana keliatan bngt kecewa sma gak sukanya diginiin. Krna di SM slalu diajarkan tentang good manner. Dan yg pasti manner anak2 SM terkenal bagusnya.
선배에게 절하지 않는 새 아이를 봐 😪😪
😞
Ikr
yeaa🤯
Yoo🤯
YEAH XD
It's funny to see those boy group stan talking about manners of the girls... but when their boy being rude or impolite they found many excuses like " but he was tired 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺"
Some can't still move on this instance.
This was already settled on their January 08 2022 Mucore.
It's purely and simply this, perhaps some members get too excited to express their gratitude towards their fans ahead of their turn to utter & they didn't see and failed to perceive to bow.
Again, this was already settled on their January 08 2022 Mucore.
@@cjnsciencenlogic Charles, je m'en fou
is it that hard for these girls to bow to their seniors ? i’m mad bc i love them ..
Yall are weird, the girls didn't even saw the others bowing to them, if they saw them bowing but didn't bow back i would understand the issue but they didn't
bruh y'all are too much, i'm not even a dive or ive's fans. But y'all are too much.
@@violetpink7423 1:58 will you can say the member doesnt notice the mc with this clip?
@@bixbiebb1812 fucking read omfg, they didn't notice them bowing, i would understand people criticising them if they saw them and didn't bow back but they didn't saw them bowed
@@mrtzc5522 knetz literally never even comment anything about this💀 they see nothing wrong about it, stop speaking over knetz
Untuk Dive jgn berlindung di balik kata *masi rookie* terus ya karena itu masi rookie kek udh sunbae kek kalo masalah attitude knetz emg ga pandang bulu ya.. lg pula yg nyela jaemin ngomong kan wony.. dia udh pernah debut jg + jd mc mushow jg. Jgn sampe deh yg ngidolain dia ngerasain apa yg dirasain nanadongie sekarang
Lahh itu 2 member kan hitungannya predebut harusnya juga paham kan kok kek anak baru
Upp bgt
up
KNETZ DR MANA YAH INDON SEMUA BAUKKK
@@바바-i5o apaan dah ngegas2 sendiri wkwk
Keren banget sumpah stagenya Lee know, Minju sama Jaemin.
HAHA
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA PLSS
Ngakak plis
njir hahaah
Wonyeong yg baju nya item putih bukan?
스트레이 키즈 팬인, 스테이 입니다.
일단 아이브에게 전혀 악 감정은 없었고, 매우 성장할 아이돌이라고 생각합니다. 노래도 정말 좋고요, 저희 부모님도 좋아하실 정도로 좋은 아이돌이라고 생각합니다. 하지만 이건 단순 선배 후배 관계 없이, 아이돌 사이에 인사는 매우 중요한 기본 예의라고 생각합니다. 리노와 재민씨 입장에서 인사 무시까이면 짜증날 것 같네요.
사실 연예계가 아니여도 저런 행동은 최소한 상대방을 엄청나게 민망하게 만들기 때문에 실례지 않을까요? 그냥 아이돌이야서 그런게 아니라, 그냥 누구든 비슷한 상황이면 좀 짜쯩날 것 같아요
어디에서 까인거죠???? 대체 어디부분인줄을 모르겟어서
인사 무시 까였다기엔 서로 인사 안하지 않음?
@@오수민-c3t 보면 재민 리노는 인사하고 갔자나요 영상 안봄?
1. Jaemin pas ngomong dipotong, padahal yg motong itu Mc jg di stasiun tv sebelah
2. Lee know bow 2 kali, Jaemin 1 kali duluan tapi nggak dibalas sama sekali. Mana ada satu member yg nengok tapi tetep aja nggak digubris.
3. Minju kalau nggak nyolek duluan tuh 2 ex member izone nggak bakal balik badan.
Ini bukan senioritas ya tapi Basic Manner as an Idol. Alasan nervous, semua idol jg nervous tapi nggak lupa sama attitudenya. Fansnya juga jangan sok nge gas ngelawan balik padahal udah jelas idolnya salah.
@@love-ts7mj setuju bgt, jatohnya jadi fake mukanya di imut imutin trosssss
se grup sok cantik semua tp manner nya ga dipercantik *upss😚
Setujuu nomor 3 bener banget
Nah, itu yang rambutnya kuning juga ngak ke bow ke minju, padahl dia liat🙃
UP. Tidak sopan bintang 0 lol
idol lain jg pada seneng dapat win, tapi 'nge-bow' tetap yg pertama ya sis👍🏻
edit: bukan mau ngehate, cuma semoga ini bisa dijadiin pelajaran. seharusnya mereka lebih tanggap ngelihat MC-nya masih ada apa engga. kalau masih ada ngebow dulu, baru deh nyanyi. sambil lagunya diputer jg bisa kok mereka ngebow
5:00 they bowed to music core staffs and employees so dont conclude their attitude based on the start of their encore they didnt just look back on those mcs because the song is starting already. freak stop making empty issue knetz in the comment section dont even care about it
@@wonyoung4thgenitgirl40 wdym empty issues and knetz don't even care abt it, knetz was the first who notice it
@@wonyoung4thgenitgirl40 cuma ke minju. ke jaemin sama lee know?
@@winter-od6hz ??? look at the comment section of this video and you will only see knetz congratulating them.. and no it started with a filipino czennie who uploaded a cut of this video without even uploading the part where they bowed to the staffs at the end. and this bowing issue is only on tiktok and international stans this isn't even on kforums like pann and theqoo🤨
@@wonyoung4thgenitgirl40 2:00 liz turned to the side, she should have seen mc and bowed
Menurutku disini mereka emang salah dr mulai gak saling bow kpd sunbae/idol lain (MCs disini) smpe motong pas jaemin mau ngomong. harusnya wony sm yujin yg udah prnh jd MC tau jg kpn saatnya dia bisa ngasih speech. aku lihat yg lain gada yg ngasih bow kecuali gaeul sm leeseo
Lee know mau ngomong juga kepotong😥
Nah bener banget,apalagi si wony tuh dh perpengalaman masa dia ga tau kek gtu
rei juga kok, dia nge bow pas ive dapat piala+yang ada minju. tapi emang sih sangat disayangkan mereka ga sepenuhnya ngebow ke semua mc dan staff :(
Bad attitude . Can't respect with idol rookie like that. So proud of Lee know n Jaemin as a MC .
Iya yg uda pernah debut masa ga tau, biasanya kan MC yg persilahkan ngmg, ni bru diumumin uda ribut, dan mslh ngebow, sekelas twice yg uda 6 tahun debut aja msi ngebow ke MC pas mereka mau turun
wonyoung has been in the industry for years. she knows exactly what she’s doing
Yeah she knows how to have a bad attitude
@@mugler_angel 👍
@@mugler_angel uhm no jaemin is the one who was too late
@@yunjin910 gurl what?
@@mugler_angel once you receive the trophy you start talking jaemin is the one who was too slow to start talking
Kirain wonyoung sama yujin punya good attitude karna udah pernah jadi idol sebelomnya ternyata sama aja ah😂
Padahal itu hal kecil tapi gak diperhatiin sama Mereka😭
Yg knetz hate komen mana?ktnya bnyk yg hate tpi ko gue baca mlh pda nyemangatin ya
@@aulia5806 banyak, coba liat tampilan yang "komentar terbaru" ada beberapa yang ngeritik/hate (dikit), terus namanya juga korea gitu jadi kayaknya itu emang knetz beneran
@@aulia5806 iya gaada yg hate, yg hate itu knetz jadi jadian wakakakka
jgn pd bilang oh knetz aja gamasalah, eh org knetz yg notis duluan
Sekelas bigbang aja tetap nge bow ke junior mereka, bukan nge hate tapi agak kecewa sama ive😭 padahal suka banget lagu eleven😭
MC jaemin, lee know, minju~ u guys did well so proud of u guys💓
It feels so weird seeing a rookie group not showing any respect to their seniors lmao just because Wonyoung and Yujin have debuted with IZ*ONE before doesn't give them a free pass to feel superior towards any artists. In fact, even if it's a senior group or not, they must still show respect through a simple bow. These girls must have never learned any manners from their training days...
Plus not to mention the favoritism towards the two members in the group lmao... if they continue being like this, they wouldn't last long in the Industry.
such jelly
facts tho
You don’t see any interaction in the backstage and yet you judge people based on short clips. Stupid people is everywhere i see. You just jelly. Poor you
Bruh can u stop u don’t even know them they might apologize in the backstage this is why idols can’t rest peacefully just bruh mind ur own business
Trueeeeeee
Wonyoung this is not Music Bank ! please respect !!! and for ive member don't forget jaemin debuted in 2016
@daffa h. 2018
bukan nya lebay ya. tapi attitude itu emang penting banget. iya mungkin disini jaemin cuma paling poll mbatin, lah takutnya dia kelepasan gini lagi ke orang yang suka nyebar", kan bakal lebih hdh
Bukannya gila hormat yaa, tp gmnapun d Korea tuh yg namanya senior yah harus dkasih bow . Apalagi Jaemin dah 6 tahun lebih dulu debut dbanding ive. Salut sih gue sama attitude nya artis SM, mereka bakal tetap ngebow meskipun itu idol junior sekalipun .
0:56 인사 안 한거 말고도 재민이 멘트하려는데 소감 먼저 말해버렸네 ㅠㅜ 아직 소감 안 물어봤는데ㅠㅜ 생각보다 행동이 앞서버렸네..떨렸나...천천히해도 되는데...
와중에 재민이 머쓱 하면서 웃고 있는거 귀여움ㅋㅋ
장원영이 소감 한두번 말해보나;
The 3 MC's are so professional! ❣️
Late reply but they care about their fans more and music lmao
I don't undetstand why y'all don't congrats IVE and talking about having a good attitude? like you're not even doing respect here by trust any haters that says IVE isn't respectful here WHILE THEY BOWS ALL OF THEM and were too happy about their wins... they hugged minju!!!! they were way too focus on their happiness in this rude industry and IVE already having bad times about their weight scandal, and an idol were suicide for hard time 3 days ago and you're keep talking SHIT AGAIN!!! knows your manners. you just add more hates. there is already videos that prooves that IVE are still respectful. they can be happy of winning at their debut what is the pB? I mean the mcs will not watch the comments of idoles winning lol, and what about IVE? you're not fan of them and yet you're bashing them harshly, when they are happy of winning. yes if I think about ITZY they bows too much that's why you're saying IVE don't, but damn we don't care!! they didn't insult the mcs of said smth bad. MOREOVER!!!! LIZ didn't cut the words of the left MC, the MC DID (without on purpose) bcs normally when a gp is winning, members can talking right? LIZ just wanted to says words thksful to the staff and fans bcs wonyoung already finished to talk so why are u mad to a gp that wins a lot? it's like the first time you're watching a music show. and also, you're not korean!!!! it's not your culture BASICALLY!! so don't talk about smth you're not able to explain and it's not even nor your origin or culture. so go to sleep and be educate yourself!!!!
@@lalisaandtzuyubiased5494oh girl shut up and do your research on Korean culture
못봤다고 쉴드쳐주지 마세요 장원영은 뮤뱅부터도 정우가 먼저 인사했는데도 소품정리한다고 인사도 안했고 이번에는 할줄 알았는데 선배인 리노랑 재민이가 먼저 인사했는데도 어째 멤버중에 인사를 하는 멤버가 없는걸까요?? 이걸 못본게 아니라 연예계에서는 자기가 갓데뷔한 신인이면 선배님들한테 깍듯이 인사해야하는건 예의아닌가요 장원영이랑 안유진은 둘다 음방mc니까 알텐데 왜 다들 그러는걸까
어쩔
@@yyrr6906 억.까.충?
@@yyrr6906 ㄹㅇㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 잼민이같음
@@yyrr6906 억.까.충 ㅂㄷㅂㄷ
@@yyrr6906 네 그러세요
Baru aja jadi spesial MC udah diginiin, Jaemin udah melakukan yang terbaikk Jjang \^o^/💚
So, Jaemin was not reguler MC for the music show??
Did you mean?
@@apink_percentpandaid-idle yes
Diginiin gimana
@@dangielmeaj5467 di potong wktu jaemin mau ngomong + ga ngebow ke jaemin lino
@@dynasohee Jaemin belum bersuara, gak bisa bilang itu 'motong'. Beberapa mushow pas udh megang trophy emang speech kok
Gak ngebow itu karena lupa, mereka seneng, itu menang terakhir mereka di era ini. Mereka baru inget ngebow pas liat minju, lupa itu manusiawi. Mereka bukan satu satunya idol yang lupa ngebow
The comments are so funny , They won the awards , gave them a break ...You guys just want hate on them , do they need to be allowed to thank their fans ?
But in Korea , idol need to thank the MC first
This is basic ones in Korea
Being an idol means also to have good attitude,Lee know,Minju and Jaemin did very well we are proud of you💞💞
iya aku bangga dengan ive
@oncemania if you’re not korean stop being embarrassing and mind your own business… y’all are being nosy
@tr4iningwheels just ignore them.. they are some brainless toxic stans who only knows how to throw hate on others even for a little mistake😊
@tr4iningwheels gtfo once you receive the trophy you start talking jaemin is the once who was too slow
@tr4iningwheels omg I'm so sorry i was replying to a comment saying ive is disrespectful or whatever
근데 해외 팬들이 이렇게 화난 거 처음 본다 웬만한 논란도 다 감싸주던데..우리나라가 인사같은 거 더 신경쓰는 줄 알았는데 아니구나
pls protect ive 😭😭😭😭
ㅇㅈ
ㄱㄴㄲ깜놀했네 별 인성논란 다 감싸주길래 외국은 살인급 아니면 논란 다 별거 아닌가 했는데
ㅇㅈ진짜 거의 처음인거 같은데
i agree with you
Masih rookie aja udah bad attitude, itu jaemin & lee know kan senior lu. Jaemin & lee know aja udah bow loh, kok malah ga dihirauin
the comments are so embarrassing Lmao...
실수를 했든안했든 인사를 안한건 잘못한것이 맞다. 지금까지 음악방송에서 신인이 1위하고 인사를 안한건 역대 최초다.
ㄹㅇ..
이사람 또 있네... 도배 작작좀ㅋㅋ 이쯤되면 그냥 억까하려는거같은데
@@wuhancorona2928 도배 그러네 지금 지적 안하면 말이 더 커지지
@@hyunna0320 그 지적이란것도 한두번이어야지 이사람은 거의 매일 와서 댓달던데??? 오바떠는거같음 좋아요 많이 받을려고ㅋ
@@wuhancorona2928 아 ㅋㅋ 그럼 킹받
INILAH BUNDA, PENTINGNYA MANNER LESSON
1:59 look at jaemin, he waited for them to bow but they didn't even turn around to say thank you at all..
@daffa h. IKR!! I want their booth but doesn't seem like it, they have no manners
lkr It's just obvious ,I don't hate them but at least they have to look back to the MCs to bow to them then sing !!
DISRESPECTUL? yall see 3 seconds of a video and proudly say that theyre being disrepstcul? Has it never occurred to you that they just forgot to turn back and bow to them? that they werent paying attention or just got caught up with the fact that they had jsut won 1st place? I think its sooo unfair to judge these people when all we see its just portions of their life. Now really, whats the difference between you and them? arent they human too? have you never forgotten to do something you were supposed to do? the difference is that you werent judged for it! yall expcet these ppl to be perfect when you are also jsut like them.....I just wish yall were as keen on calling out what the people around you do wrong as you are with these artists! I do think they coulve done better, but so what theyre humans just like ME....
And that's something most people don't realize.
Yes and,
Some can't still move on, in this instance.
This was already settled on their January 08 2022 Mucore.
It's purely and simply this, perhaps some members get too excited to express their gratitude towards their fans ahead of their turn to utter & they didn't see and failed to perceive to bow.
Again, this was already settled on their January 08 2022 Mucore.
Popularitas mudah didapat. Tp MANNERS tidak..
popularitas jg tidak mudah , tp emang manners penting banget kek kecewa sedikit sma mereka disini :/
Padahal mereka liat ya🥲
@@dwilestari165 iya.. Padahal lagunya gue suka banget. Kecewa bngt
@@marsha2368 bener. Padahal lagunya enak bngt. Kecewa.. Pdhal yujin sma wooyoung termasuk dah lama d industri musik..
I know you guys are deserved to debut because you guys have so many talent, but good manners is also important. especially, as far as I know (but cmiiw) in the Korean bowing to the seniors is a culture..
Di korea aja ga ada masalah kenapa orang indonesia yang ribet sih
Korean aren't even saying anything about this though. 😐
@@joythinker739 LMAO "korean culture" and these commenters arent even korean 😭😪
@@jennie5912 They're like their faves, they love to pretend to be of other cultures just like my man jaehyun said the n word and never apologized and the list goes on
Worry abt NCT being problematic fatphobic and colorisy, they dont have manners :)
In this video they don't respect MCs who are more senior than them in the industry
0:56 Jaemin should've asked them to give a speech first, but Wonyoung speak right away
1:55 they don't even look at the MCs when the MCs are going down the stage, not one of them bowing to the MCs (Jaemin and Lee Know). They are bowing to Minju after she came first to meet Yujin and Wonyoung
So sad, looking rookie with no respect. Actually I like their song before, but after this controversy I think I can't like them as big as before or even worse than that
@daffa h. so glad you unstan them. Or else you'll just token stan them lmao gtfo
IKR like i know Wony is an MC too so she knows how it work but Wony should not straight speech right aways like PLEASEE JINJJA you need to respect someone who is senior and same with you (MC)
I'm a DIVE and i admit that they're rude tho 😔
ive i hope y’all do this again and make the non koreans mad 😭 it’s so funny to see them rage
attitude mreka...
bad ...
fans ny mlh msi ngebela, pdhl ud tau slh.
@@s7xya340 blm viral mngkn
para mc (Jaemin, Minju, dan Lee Know) kalian semua bekerja dengan baik!! terus semangat!! MC Jaemin Semangat🤗💗
Semangat IVEEE
Starship, please give them attitude lesson
It's such a big surprise for me. I don't think that Starship will debut a group without teaching them that. I think even though the company doesn't do that, idols still have to learn by themselves since the senior-junior relationship is a must-have in Korea. I really like "Eleven", but after this encore i feel disappointed about IVE. I hope they can learn from their mistakes and be respectful to other artirts in the future.
this comment section is digusting af.
Ohiya, liat respon fansnya di twitter baru tau gue kalau fansnya anti kritik kayak gini. Gimana idolnya mau tau kesalahannya kalau fansnya aja me-normalize bad attitude?
Mana mereka yg ngegas lg dan sombong banget saat idolnya dikritik. "Senioritas banget", "woman support woman", "kok dibawa ribet", bawa" idol lain sebagai tameng. Kalian bisa support idolkalian dengan nerima fakta bahwa idol kalian emang salah disini
Maaf, tapi menurut gue kalian too much deh. Banyak kok beberapa idol yang rookie ga ngebow ke sunbaenya karena ga liat atau apa. Di sini wony juga keliatan gugup pas mau speech, mungkin dia ga sadar kalo dia udh ngecut dialognya jaemin. Gue bukan fans ive, gue bahkan ga tau nama fansclub mereka. Tapi gue rasa kalian too much, knetz aja pada ga ada yang mempermasalahin atittude ive, ini indonesian fans especially indonesian nctzen pada koar" gara gara jaemin dicut dialognya, yang padahal itu bisa aja wonyoung ga sengaja.
@@29rifaniahafidzahanum41 knetz ga permslahin gmna org jls2 knetz dluan yg nydar klo mereka ga ngebow, btw gw krg tau ttg idol rookie lain yg ga ngebow bisa kirim link encore mereka?? jgn cmn omong doang, klopun ga ngebow atleast ad stu yg nydar ini gk sm sekali, bhkan jelas bgt dsini Liz udh noleh dan ngeliat lee know ngebow 2kali
@@josephinesheviya6982 oh ya? Knetz juga ikut mempermasalahin? Gue ga liat bahkan 2 3 knetz komen di comsect tentang atittude mereka. Kalo lo mau link idol yang ga ngebow balik padahal mereka lebih muda dari idol yang ngebow gue bisa kasih.
@@josephinesheviya6982 knetz yang mana?? Cuma gegara komennya bakor padahal nama displaynya gak korea ckck crosscheck lagi lain kali. Ngeaccused salah tapi pake bawa knetz yaaa lucu aja sih istan nimbrungin sambil pake star syndrome
Ya emang salah, tapi ga perlu sampe ngehate + body shaming juga. Liat aja komen2nya, aji mumpung buat ngehate. Kan kocak, berasa idolnya ga pernah buat salah aja. Kalo dibales hate lagi langsung play victim. Template banget
kok.. wkwkw jaemin sm mc lain uda bow loh wkwk
This is the reason why JYPE's idols are the best. They are humble AF.
I really agree! JYP's group is not the best in terms of vocals, dance, rap or visuals, but there's no doubt about the "attitude"! jyp's group is indeed the best in behaving politely to both seniors and juniors :)
@@yoozzz i think jyp is the best of dance in big 3
Well i think all big 3 idols is humble
@@yoozzz jyp groups are best in dance right?
@@yoozzz that’s such a backhanded comment wtf lmao
Gue bukan nctzen maupun dive. Disini gua cuma fandom lain yang mau menilai kenapa sih para ribut2 di tl twitter. Oh ternyata ini, ya pantes aja langsung di kritik.
1. Wonyoung ini mc juga, tapi kenapa ga tau tata krama dan langsung ngasih speech padahal belum dipersilahkan. Btw kelihatan banget muka keselnya jaemin.
2. Mereka ga ngebow ke senior. Kek wtf bro ini lu di korea yang kental dengan manner nya. 2 dari 6 member juga udah pernah debut, apa masih ga paham dengan tata krama gini? Cuma nge-bow bentar apa susahnya?
Iyaa bahkan wony bukan pertama kali masuk ke dunia perkpop-an
spill the fact! UP
Semua orang berhak berpendapat. Kita juga ngga bisa normalize tindakan ive, setidaknya jika bukan sebagai senior, hargai mereka sebagai MC. Moga kedepannya ini bisa diperbaiki. Btw congrats untuk win nya, ive.
Makasih selamat nya
Terima kasih pendapat anda dan terima kasih untuk ucapan selamatnya
Semua memang berhak berpendapat tp ga berhak menghakimi
come on guys, jaemin debuted 5 years earlier, lee know 4, and even if minju is your friend, at least respect them. the hierarchy of respect for elders/seniors should be taught to these girls.
That's right, actually not just for the sake of seniority, but also for manners
Y’all not even korean is what’s killing me 😭
“ the hierarchy of respect for elders “ dude wtf is u on abt 😭 are u not tired? go to sleep bruh
@@tj.8924 dude its Asian basic manner like wtf
@@tj.8924 right… all them kboos are like "no need to be koreans to know matters, they should respect their sunbaes!!😠" boy if you don’t sthu knetz don’t care😭
심지어 블랙핑크와 방탄소년단도 인사를 하는데 신인 아이브가 안하네.. 그냥 좀 놀랐다랄까... 몇십년차인 소녀시대도 인사하는데....
소녀시대님이 몇십년차나 됬나요?
근데 여기 영상 말곤 인사하긴함.. 경황없어서 못 한듯 물론 잘못은 맞지만
LINO U DID GREAT AS ALWAYS!! BUT ANW MC JAEMIN DID REALLY WELL TOO!!❤❤
lee know 아니냐? ㅋㅋㅋ
Oh ini yang Jaemin belum selesai ngomong langsung disela aja wkwk. Respect your senior, kids
goblok ya gini, tonton dlu yg bener bru komen woi, disela itu klo jaemin lg ngmong trus dipotong wonyoung, jelas" divideo wonyoung yg lg ngmong trus dikira jaemin udh selesai mangkanya jaemin mau ngmong eh taunya wonyoung blm selesai ngmongnya mangkanya jaemin ketawa gitu
No need to respect bunch of racists and colorists freaks like nct 💀
@@monokromemonokuma206 stop being toxic
@@wannaapeacelife2558 g ush ngatain goblok kaliii, kaya lo paling pinter aja🤣🤣
@@dynasohee lah emng kenyataan? klo pinter sih hrusnya bisa bedain mana motong omongan org mana ngga, tp salah apa kgak malu 😂
Sumpah gtw knpa gw sakit hati ngeliat pas jaemin mau ngomong tp malah kepotong sm wony..
you weirdos coming for the group when jaemin was late in reading his part as mc it was literally his first day not their fault he didn’t know how to time himself 😭 y’all are really hating on a rookie group so fast, the only real part where they messed up was not bowing but even then y’all act like they did it maliciously
Damn like idols like fans.... Just because they were disrespectful, your shifting the blame to Jaemin? Even if he was late which he was not, wonyoung should have waited she isn't in the industry this long just to be this unprofessional. What about bowing?
@@spicybiryani2617 well if you can see, 0:52 wonyoung looked at mc before she speak. Cause there are some space of time so she may think it's time to speak. And we don't know either that usually who's not mc can see script or not. But about bowing i don't know either. If u put your biased down maybe you can see it cleary.
their attitude 😧 malah MC duluan yang nge bow, senior" lagi
아무리 1위를 하고 좋다고 해도 장원영이나 안유진은 아이즈원 때 이미 경험해 봤을 텐데 모르는 것도 아니고 걔다가 본인들 엠씨인데 모른다는 게 말이 됨?ㅋㅋㅋㅋ사회생활에서 인사를 얼마나 중요시하는데 또 아직 엠씨 멘트 끝나지도 않았는데 소감을 벌써 얘기하고 있고 제발 본인보다 윗사람이던 아랫사람이던 예의를 좀 갖추길 바람
인정요
Google translator
@임채순 저 말씀하시는거에요? 제가 아이브 팬이라고 언제 말 했습니까?
@임채순 저 말씀하시는거냐고요
Jaemin-ah, congratulations on being a special MC today. Good luck💚🪄✨ You worked really hard🪄✨
Mfs In the comments acting like they're respectful there whole life💀
fr, i bet these people dont even respect their parents...
The same people who cancels everyone in the internet and starts a war in social media 💀👏
JAEMIN , LEE KNOW YOU DID WELL GUYS 🥰💗 PROUD OF U MA BOY💗 KEEP HUMBLE ✨
You did well, Na Jaemin. I'm proud of you!
He's the one who was too slow to start talking once you receive the trophy you start talking
@@yunjin910 no
@@conanHzBear yes
@@yunjin910 oh no girl even if the person takes a minute to talk you have to be respectful enough and talk until they tell you, she has been in the industry for years just like jaemin but jaemin didn't interrupt her even though she If he did. You see the difference? There are no excuses
@@yunjin910 are you kidding me... You can literally see he is already about to talk then Wonyoung suddenly gives speech and not wait for Jaemin to talk first, Wonyoung is literally an MC herself too
buset blm disuruh ngomong mana gak ngebow
It’s actually sad, how many people are making new accounts, pretending to be korean and hating on IVE, just to make it seem like Knetz is hating on IVE. I can speak and read korean and the amount of fake comments here is just so laughable 🤣
instantly remembered when dreamies said their manager always reminded & told them to be
"Always be grateful, Always be humble, greet others well"
even the boys always repeated it and it's already like a chant which embedded in their brains
SM taught their artist well 👍
I knoow yall are not talking about manners, look up their radio with youngk pls. AHHAAH the double standards yall are embarrassing
K.
@@bishhuh Pretty sure they apologized
[예능연구소 4K] NCT 127 1위 직캠 'Favorite (Vampire)' (NCT 127 No.1 Encore FanCam) @Show!MusicCore 211106
Did you see this encore? almost everyone except last guy that only bow to mc but others is no looking at mc and bow too? isn't it the same with IVE? why you guys have different standard when it comes to your favorite group?
@@solo-yl8uc well well well would you at that, now why aren’t y’all talking about their manners? Isn’t this disrespectful? Or is it only when it happens to ur little oppas?
Minju Yujin Wonyoung 😭😭😭😭
NEW IDOL WITH NO MANNERS GOES TO IVE. Congratulation
Louder sist yeayyy
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hahahahaha stan you
"no manners"but if a boy groups does it you guys aren't gonna say anything lol
Just made one mistake and then got called no manners by some random stranger who's probably has no manners too💀
THEY TOOK "YOU KNOW THE ATTITUDE" TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL THAT ALSO IRL
LMFAOOOO TRUE 😭😭😭
i got a t t i t u d
Are you fucking judging a person's attitude. From a 3 sec video?
I don't undetstand why y'all don't congrats IVE and talking about having a good attitude? like you're not even doing respect here by trust any haters that says IVE isn't respectful here WHILE THEY BOWS ALL OF THEM and were too happy about their wins... they hugged minju!!!! they were way too focus on their happiness in this rude industry and IVE already having bad times about their weight scandal, and an idol were suicide for hard time 3 days ago and you're keep talking SHIT AGAIN!!! knows your manners. you just add more hates. there is already videos that prooves that IVE are still respectful. they can be happy of winning at their debut what is the pB? I mean the mcs will not watch the comments of idoles winning lol, and what about IVE? you're not fan of them and yet you're bashing them harshly, when they are happy of winning. yes if I think about ITZY they bows too much that's why you're saying IVE don't, but damn we don't care!! they didn't insult the mcs of said smth bad. MOREOVER!!!! LIZ didn't cut the words of the left MC, the MC DID (without on purpose) bcs normally when a gp is winning, members can talking right? LIZ just wanted to says words thksful to the staff and fans bcs wonyoung already finished to talk so why are u mad to a gp that wins a lot? it's like the first time you're watching a music show. and also, you're not korean!!!! it's not your culture BASICALLY!! so don't talk about smth you're not able to explain and it's not even nor your origin or culture. so go to sleep and be educate yourself!!!!
OMG 3 BEATIFUL MC'S THEY DID SO WELL
Where’d u get that emoji :0
@@m.y.a.x_kiwi893 iphone lol
I don't undetstand why y'all don't congrats IVE and talking about having a good attitude? like you're not even doing respect here by trust any haters that says IVE isn't respectful here WHILE THEY BOWS ALL OF THEM and were too happy about their wins... they hugged minju!!!! they were way too focus on their happiness in this rude industry and IVE already having bad times about their weight scandal, and an idol were suicide for hard time 3 days ago and you're keep talking SHIT AGAIN!!! knows your manners. you just add more hates. there is already videos that prooves that IVE are still respectful. they can be happy of winning at their debut what is the pB? I mean the mcs will not watch the comments of idoles winning lol, and what about IVE? you're not fan of them and yet you're bashing them harshly, when they are happy of winning. yes if I think about ITZY they bows too much that's why you're saying IVE don't, but damn we don't care!! they didn't insult the mcs of said smth bad. MOREOVER!!!! LIZ didn't cut the words of the left MC, the MC DID (without on purpose) bcs normally when a gp is winning, members can talking right? LIZ just wanted to says words thksful to the staff and fans bcs wonyoung already finished to talk so why are u mad to a gp that wins a lot? it's like the first time you're watching a music show. and also, you're not korean!!!! it's not your culture BASICALLY!! so don't talk about smth you're not able to explain and it's not even nor your origin or culture. so go to sleep and be educate yourself!!!!
ATTITUDE NYA WOI
Respect banget sama jaemin, si anak baik sampe nggak ngomong gara-gara di potong. Dan di situlah kita bisa menilai bahwa jaemin sopan banget. Trus, si lee know juga gitu nggak motong yang lagi bicara. Khusus buat dive, kita nctzen dan stay bukan gila hormat. Kita cuman mau idol respect sesama, mau junior atau senior. Manner itu penting, kita juga nggak bilang kalo idol kita nggak pernah buat kesalahan. Minta maaf dengan klarifikasi itu nggak bikin malu lok, malahan bagus banget buat introspeksi diri buat jadi lebih baik lagi.
Belajar lagi yah, respect buat all fandom💚🖤
Setuju, dan memang benar kesopanan itu ke semua org tanpa mandang senior junior dan bru tahu tingkat kesopanan di korea sana sgt kuat wajar knetz lgsng group rookie trsbt dan baru tahu jga tunduk sprt kek Jaemin itu hal wajar mau ke senior kek or ke junior itu bkn hal aneh lg dan Dive di Twitter serang Nctzen aduhh. Ya smga IVE bsa bljr byk lagi yaa dan smga ini mnjd pembelajaran tuk nnti idol bru dan fans tuk tau attitude di negara korea kek gmna.
waduh iya siap si yang paling ngerti kultur korea sampe mau edukasi orang korea aslinya wkekekekw anjing kocak banget. lebay lu semua, apa gak malu lu cewek nyerang cewek apalagi mereka minors semua? jaemin leeknow minju bow juga ragu karena tau ive masih kesenengan jadi mereka juga main nyelonong aja wkekewk. gausah lebay lu bg stans, geli. sampe bilang salut2 segala. stop acting like you know everything.
Gua mau tahu komen orang korea malah isinya orang Indo mulu. Pada gabut atau gmn sih. Emang gk pada kerja atau kuliah gitu. 🙃
Jaemin aja biasa aja, gausah lebay
@@purezephyr6813 biasalah org indo pada so pinter😂
적어도 원영이랑 유진이는 인사했어야했음..
방송생활을 몇년 더 했던애들인데ㅠㅠ잘못된거 알고 더 나아지길 바란다
엉,,,잘 이해가 안되서 여쭤보는건데,,,아이브 몇번 감사하다고 한거 같은데 인사 안했다는건 무슨 뜻 인가요..?
@@꺄르르르릌 앰씨봐주시는분들에게 인사하는거 얘기하시는겁니다
@@0604유승훈 감사합니다!
Indonesians/ifans filling up the comment section complaining on something that should only concern koreans is so funny and ridiculous to me 😭
And they use GOOGLE TRANSLATE TO hate in korean it’s so obvious
They can't get a support from koreans for their actions, so they were cosplaying as korean netizens😂😂
they so badly want to convince everyone that the koreans hate ive when in fact the knetz themselves are making fun of them for trying so hard to be offended about a culture that’s not even theirs 😭 are y’all not embarrassed for yourselves?
Cantik, suara bagus, berbakat, stage presence bagus.. Udah lengkap bgt tu.
Alangkah lebih baik kalo attitudenya juga bagus dan sopan..
Jangan jadikan umur sebagai alasan, banyak idol yg debut umurnya muda juga tp pada sopan..
Semangat ive, masih panjang waktunya buat selalu memperbaiki diri..
GW BINGUNG DARITADI SORRY BGT PADA NGOMONGIN ATTITUDE, EMANG MEREKA DISINI GIMANA DAH, daritadi gw liat kyk biasa aja 😭🙏
@@dlanooo6715 mereka motong omongannya jaemin, terus mereka juga gak ngebow ke mc, pdhl disitu mc nya dah ngebow tapi gak dibales. mc nya juga udah senior, jadi gak sopan kalo gak bales bow nya.. no hate ya, kritik biar Ive bisa belajar dari kesalahan
@@gatauoke3183 ngebow apaan?
@@muhammadilhamdarmaputra2803 bow itu bahasa inggris, artinya bungkuk. Di korea adab salam bungkuk itu penting banget karna junjung kesopanan :)
@@shelyanahawarirohman8003 oalahhh ttapi kan ive juga manusia bisa juga salah kalo mereka robot buat salah baru aneh :)(:
neng sabar kalo mo ngomong tunggu MC bae, jan lupa nge bow juga dong 😊 padahal 2 member ud berpengalaman mana paling ditonjolin
no one gives an f about jaemin! Im still so mad at nctzens for causing a hate train towards IVE for a mistake something HE made.
0:56 lol jaemin still have something to say (on script) but wonyoung started saying thanks 😭 but still congratulations
Wonyoung didn't see that jaemin will said something
@@yourfuture5307 she's been on that show many times right, so she must have an idea how the MC's scripts flow. Anyway it's obvious she got too excited and just say whatever she wanted to say
@@louise3121 yeah agree
안유진이랑 장원영은 자기들도 음방 엠씨라 끝날 때 엠씨들이랑 인사하는 거 알 텐데 앞에만 쳐다보고 있네 신인이 데뷔하자마자 1위 행진이라 들뜬 건지 모르겠는데 기본 예절을 갖춰야 한다 생각함... 엠씨들이 먼저 인사 안 했더라도 자기들이 고개 돌려서 인사하는 자세를 보였어야 함... 아이브 호감이었는데 이거 보고 엥? 했음 ㅠ 다음부터는 인사 잘 하고 다녔으면 좋겠다
It doesn't matter who's junior or senior, but I think that manners should be owned by everyone
Well yeah I agree with that but mistakes happen and people should move on today renjun did the same mistakes and why are people's reaction different huh? Not saying he deserves hate but for doing the same thing she got called names in tiktok and was harrased in Instagram
people are acting as if wonyoung spat in their faces or smth lmao.
FR
itu jaemin pengen ngomong weh
Liz you're already saw to the back that lee know bow to you.. but you didn't do it, what even is this?
Dah kena star syndrome sih, padahal masih rookie tapi GK Ng bow
Sedangkan senior" yg udh terkenal juga masih Ng bow kok
Tapi kedepannya bisa intropeksi diri aja sih
와 해외팬들이 더 많아 ㅋㅋ 인사문화가 어색하지않은 아시아문화권에서 살면 그들도 이상황이 이상하단걸 안다는거지.
아 댓글보면서 알았는데 mc가 소감묻지도 않았는데 원영이가 소감부터말하고 있었구나 ㅋㅋ 이런 신박한장면은 처음보기는 한다.
mc급하게 대본넘기고있네 장원영끝나고 또 한번 멘트 끊고 리즈까지 소감 ㅋㅋ
멘트 일부러 끊은것 같진 않은데 굳이 비난받을 일인가
MASA SAMPE MINJU YANG MANGGIL DAN BARU NOLEH KE BELAKANG KAN KEBANGETAN?? DAN HOW TF MEREKA GAK NGEBOW KE MC??? ngebow itu basic manner mau ke sunbae atau gak, ini udah jelas2 ketiga mc itu senior wak??
mereka excited banget sampe lupa ada attitude yang harus dijaga.
Lupanya berjamaah yah bund sampe semua membernya sekaligus😂
@@rahmahsj134 bukan lupa sih lebih ke ga ada akhlak motong pembicaraan nge bow sih ada..
Lol
Iya
@@syaarizzed yaudah positive thingking aja.. kita kan emang terbiasa liat manners artis SM yang kayak putra putri kerajaan wkwkk
Kl mau jd bintang besar no.1 attitude sih kl talent mah udah banyak yaa di grup manapun jg bertalent semua
y'all are so sensitive, they are YOUNG, yes they did something wrong but the girls can learn from this. omg they forgot to bow the mcs are gonna die😭😭😭
it might not be a big deal internationally speaking, but in korea it's important to bow and since the mcs are also their seniors it's even worse...
@@chaengsuki9105 If the country is going to crucify these underage girls for making a mistake, then I think the country is wrong, it was a mistake and now they will learn from this. That's it.
@@devilcente ah no i agree with you 100%, they should be held accountable but not to this extent since the girls already get so much hate (especially wonyoung). I just hope this was a one time thing because of their excitement.
@@chaengsuki9105 to what degree? Did it harm someone no yes it is disrespectful but it's not like it's gonna kill you cause after this they are probably going to either forget about this or just not care and the youngest member as someone told me was like what 14-15 and y'all h8 on her just cause she didn't bow lol y'all are OVERLY sensitive this si way the Kpop community is so toxic
@@needless974 since i'm an international kpop fan i cannot really speak on behalf of knetz, but i do know and am aware that bowing to seniors (both as a group and as individual persons) is an act of respect and has to be done. It didn't physically huurt anybody, but i can understand why they got the backlash that they did and why knetz would want to apologize, especially caus two of the members have already debuted and know how it works. I wasn't hating on them, I was just saying why they were getting backlash for this at the time it happened.
민주야 반가워 원영이랑 유진이 포옹하는거 감동이다
민주랑 유진이는 찰떡 궁합에다
영혼의 단짝인데 같이 못해서 아쉽지만
이렇게 간간히 만나고 소통하면 보기에 참 좋아요~
민주야 뭘하던 응원한다~화이팅!!!
착한 우리 민주도 !!! 꽃길 가즈아!!!